If there's one thing that should never be able to be taken from you it's property that's owned outright. That said, people need to be more responsible who they vote in locally and to stop thinking of their home as a piggy bank. It is not an asset, it's a liability.
I honestly think the reason that Dominion sued Lindell, Fox News max, et al, is because Dominion controls the passage of referendums at local elections.
Think about it...
On many ballots, you will see a referendum for tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars in school referendums, utility referendums, etc.
What an interesting pitch Dominion could have when "selling" their machines to local boards.
Our systems increase the passage of referendums all across the nation. Use us and get the funding you need.
Meanwhile, who gets stuck with the bill?
Oh, that's right! The homeowners with their property tax bills!
Might want to check into that type of VOTER FRAUD, too!
You can't vote out here. It's all "appointments". We don't have a single politician thats under 65 or related to another politician. The county has a boomer RINO death grip on everything. They recently cut down thousands of trees and took over farm fields to build solar farms.
With rare exceptions, you do not own property in this country. You own indefinite full "interest" in the property but you do not actually own it.
Look up the difference between "fee simple" "fee absolute" and "allodial" titles. Most land in our country today is owned via fee simple or absolute, which is effectively part of the feudal system system of land ownership. Though you may own interest in the land and all that is on it, you're still beholden to regulations and eminent domain (and taxes). Essentially, the state is your superior landlord and, because of that, can take that property from you with "just" cause as long as they pay you "proper" compensation, which is also determinded by the group taking your land.
The ONLY way to own property outright is allodial title, that is the only system where you have proper ownership of the land with complete control. It's effectively a contract between you and God at that point. There are places in the northern Europe that still have land with allodial title but it's becoming more and more rare. There are some pieces of land here with that title but, at the first opportunity, municipalities tried to take it away so it's become pretty rare.
Moral of the story, land ownership in this country is a joke. Land of the free but we cannot own property outright, it's ridiculous.
Did you read the link you posted? It says that it can’t be done. “But what the law does require is a dedication of the land for burial purposes. The Trump National Golf Club would have to be re-dedicated as a cemetery, and that would bar revenues from golfing activities.”
EDIT: My original comment fell below the fold, late to the party...but what I wanna know is, How much tax is OP talking about???
Are you $500/yr, $5,000/yr, $50,000/yr??? Property taxes vary YUGELY across America...If you're at $5k or less, some of us have nearly no sympathy for you... that's how high taxes are around these parts...
a. Cemetery companies shall be exempt from the payment of any real estate taxes, rates and assessments or personal property taxes on lands and equipment dedicated to cemetery purposes. Cemetery companies shall be exempt from business taxes, sales taxes, income taxes, and inheritance taxes.
b. Land dedicated to cemetery purposes owned by any person shall be exempt from all taxes, rates or assessments.
c. Charges paid to a cemetery for an interment space shall be exempt from the payment of sales or use tax.
d. Trust funds, and the income from trust funds, held by a cemetery company shall be exempt from taxation and assessment, and sale, seizure or sale for collection of judgments against the cemetery company.
e. Land dedicated to cemetery purposes and structures, buildings, and equipment used for the maintenance of that land or the operation of a cemetery shall be exempt from sale for collection of judgments. Income derived from cemetery property other than income required by law to be deposited in trust funds or used for a particular purpose may be taken and used for the payment of a judgment against a cemetery company. If a judgment against a cemetery company cannot be paid, a court may also order the issuance of bonds, notes or other evidences of indebtedness by the cemetery company. This subsection shall not apply to liens existing on land before it is dedicated to cemetery purposes.
f. A street or road shall not be laid through any land of a cemetery company that is actually in use for cemetery purposes without the consent of the cemetery company, unless otherwise provided by law.
g. When bankruptcy, receivership or other court proceeding necessitates the selling of cemetery company lands, the court shall require the purchaser to incorporate as a cemetery company.
h. A receiver or trustee of a cemetery company appointed by a court may issue bonds, notes or other evidence of indebtedness that include a provision allowing the holders to select the governing body of the cemetery company until they are paid.
My Assessed value was 300,000 in 2020. It increased to 380,000 on January 1, 2021. Then it went up to 468,000 in 2022, 489,000 in 2023, same in 2024, and now it is 616,000. Last year's taxes were almost $5,000 annually. Next year's will probably be $6,500 or more.
I am reading the link you posted and am very interested in declaring our property a cemetary. Cremated remains in Indiana by law are considered cremated remains whether it is an animal or a person. Guess what, I just so happen to have cremated remains of our pet dog....
List everything wrong with house. Take pictures. Get estimates on how much to fix in order to sell your house to compare with recent houses that sold in your area.
Go to your county's appraisal website and submit a protest. For our area we have til May 15th
I believe this is the dems pushing their agenda. But it is to late. Most people will scream and shout and the politicians will blame trump for the rise. But there will be enough people who did their homework and call out the traitors. This will open up the conversation on why we need property tax and the majority of home owners will actually side with the idea of no property tax. The mid terms will be the tax abolishing race where 1 candidate will talk about getting rid of them, while the other will refuse to talk about it. Then the "vote blue no matter who" will have the biggest choice of their lives. Vote to raise taxes, or vote to get rid of them. Until then, we have to feel the pain of taxes even though we are numb to them.
Property taxes are by far the chief funding source for county governments. Counties provide roads, sheriffs, and health services. They do need some money, and they need to get it some way. And you can bet it will come from us. (Where else?)
My city/county not only increased our property taxes due to the insane prices that houses were selling for back in 2022/2023, but additionally we have to pay and file yearly income taxes to the city as well, so they're not hurting for money here where I am.
Edit to add, because of all that taxing, the school levies fail because nobody wants to volunteer to pay even more property tax, which is how the school levy gets funded.
Maybe true, but it should be sales tax. They can provide services based on what they afford to provide from that revenue source. I am 100% against property tax because with that you can never truly own your property when they government can file to take it for not paying tax on it. I am also not a fan of our taxed money being taxed again. Ie income tax then being forced to pay another tax on your already taxed money. We have a government spending problem not a government revenue problem.
anyone who wants to take a stance against property taxes should look into alphonse faggiolo. he explains how the scam works and is waiting for a sc ruling that will never come until we the people demand it.
This was one of my biggest concerns. Because i knew if those globalist shills got into local government they could play with the property tax, and even though people owned their land, they could force them to sell by increasing taxes like this
We had a campaign sign in our yard from the opposition candidate for PVA in our county. He lost and, my property value went way up. Seems anyone who supported the loser got a nice property tax increase.
Indiana is capped at 1% for ownwer occupied, 2% for rentals. The issue is they are raising the assessed propery values and spending the money so it cant be reduced in future years.
Last year you had property valued at $100. This year, your property is valued at $130. Your tax amount went up 30% even though you still pay only 1% of the assessed value.
And value assessments are ridiculous. Two residentially zoned houses sold for 500,000 last year, so this year every other house in the zip code is worth more.
They did this to my moms rental property and made it so she couldn't afford to keep it. Now she is selling and hopes to get another property in a better location with lower tax. She is 78 and uses the rental income as her retirement. It's fucked...
Every homeowner needs to get pissed and let city council members and mayors know we see them as the greedy pieces of shit they are. Home owners need to stop being polite and publicly denounce these lawless “elected” thieves.
this will lead to the demise of HOA's too. A lot of people are under the impression the HOA takes care of the roads but tax's do and lots of pot holes in these dem ran cities. so once people start realizes property taxes are non-essential it will lead to hoa's dues also to be non-essential.
wonder how may neighborhoods HOA's are already wrapping it up?
A Public Trust is a registered setup that follows government rules—it's audited, pays tax, files returns, and its details are public. A Private Trust is unregistered and runs privately without those rules. It doesn’t file taxes or reports, and the trustee can borrow using trust assets if needed. It uses language that is not tied to corporations eg: income vs sustenance, children vs offspring.
---Grok AI---
Placing your home in a private trust, such as a revocable living trust, does not exempt you from paying West Virginia property taxes. Property taxes in West Virginia are assessed on real estate based on its value, regardless of whether the property is held in a trust or owned outright by an individual. The West Virginia Tax Division and local county assessors require property taxes to be paid on all taxable real estate, and trusts do not inherently provide an exemption from this obligation.
Here are key points to consider:
No General Exemption for Trusts: West Virginia law does not provide a blanket exemption from property taxes for properties held in private trusts. The tax obligation remains with the property itself, and the trustee or grantor (depending on the trust structure) is responsible for ensuring taxes are paid.
Specific Exemptions Are Limited: West Virginia offers property tax exemptions for certain types of properties, such as those owned by religious, educational, or charitable organizations, but only if the property is used primarily for those purposes. A private trust holding a personal residence would not typically qualify for such exemptions unless it meets very specific criteria, which is rare for a home used as a primary residence.
Revocable vs. Irrevocable Trusts:
In a revocable living trust, you retain control over the property and are considered the owner for tax purposes. Property taxes will still apply as if you owned the home directly.
In an irrevocable trust, the property is transferred out of your estate, but this does not automatically exempt it from property taxes. The trust itself becomes the legal owner, but West Virginia still assesses property taxes on the real estate unless it qualifies for a specific exemption. Additionally, irrevocable trusts are more complex and may have other tax implications, such as federal estate taxes, but they do not inherently avoid state property taxes.
Homestead Exemption: West Virginia offers a Homestead Exemption for residents aged 65 or older or those who are permanently disabled, which reduces the taxable value of a primary residence by up to $20,000. This exemption applies to the property regardless of whether it’s in a trust, but the homeowner must occupy the home as their primary residence and meet eligibility criteria. If the home is in a trust, you’d perlu to confirm with your county assessor that the trust structure doesn’t affect eligibility.
Risk of Non-Payment: If property taxes are not paid, a tax lien can be placed on the property, potentially leading to a tax sale, even if the property is held in a trust. Property tax liens have priority over other liens, including mortgages, so failing to pay could jeopardize ownership.
Other Considerations: While a trust can help avoid probate and provide estate planning benefits, it does not shield the property from property taxes. Some people mistakenly believe trusts can reduce tax burdens, but in West Virginia, property taxes are tied to the property’s assessed value, not the ownership structure. If you’re exploring ways to minimize taxes, you might consider other strategies, such as challenging the property’s assessed value if you believe it’s inaccurate or applying for any applicable exemptions.
Recommendation: Consult with a West Virginia estate planning attorney or tax professional to review your specific situation and trust structure. They can advise on whether your trust setup might qualify for any niche exemptions or if other tax-saving strategies are available. Additionally, contact your local county assessor’s office to clarify how placing your home in a trust might affect your eligibility for exemptions like the Homestead Exemption.
If you’d like, I can search for more specific information or analyze any related documents you provide to explore this further. Would you like me to proceed with a deeper search or focus on anything else?
Grok’s take only fits public or registered trusts. A real private trust runs under contract law, not government rules, so it’s not automatically tied to property tax. Trust law makes it clear: a private trust is a private agreement, not a public entity—unless you bring it into the public system by registering it or applying for exemptions.
Also, the Private domain is a state of mind. As a private individual, you can be in public and private realm, if you ran away to the private realm, goverment has no jurisdiction on you. Powerful stuff.
I'm sure ther are peds here that has more knowledge to share...
Increase in property taxes are typically voted on. But think about this: non-property owners can vote to increase property taxes on property owners. Seems like taxation w/o representation in a way.
Around here they cut property taxes but raise your value so you end up paying more. The assessment of my house has doubled in 5 years. I got what would normally be called a good raise. But my property taxes and insurance ate it up completely.
There shouldn't be property taxes for someone's primary residence. We should be able to live in our homes without being taxed. Investment property, second and third homes, rental units should be all that gets taxed
Yep. I bought my house in 2009 and it has since tripled in value, from 400k to 1.2m. Needless to say, I don’t have any desire to move, because even a lateral price move would triple my property taxes.
Get a blue tarp for your roof. Check to see if your home owners covers "natural disasters" and dig on if your area is going to be a smart city or rail hub between smart cities...
This whole taxing structure is broken beyond belief. We need to start a movement and have everyone stop paying ALL taxes for everything. We fought and won this a long time ago yet here we are again. They are keeping you broke just barely surviving and when you check out your completely broke. This has to end!
I fight my property tax every year. Its annoying but I'm going to be a pain in their ass. They say not even 10 percent of people fight property tax anymore.
My neighbors don't want to fight so they can pay my share.
They’ve been doing this in Texas for years…bought my house in 2013 for 208k, latest assessed value is 525k, so they raise your property taxes by 10% until it matches the assessed value. My mortgage is almost 500.00 more now just due to the tax increase. It’s robbery
I have every year, it takes some off but nothing significant. Helps with the new homestead exemption, but it’s still bullshit as they cook the numbers between home improvements/dwelling/land to get their numbers as they change between the three every year and yet it always comes out to a 19% increase from the year before.
Here in East TN, Knoxville city taxes nearly doubled last year or the year before. Like most places the county is red and the city is blue. This city over spends on crazy liberal garbage and is nearly broke so they had to radically raise property taxes to avoid default.
To learn how to take property out of the public (corporate U.S. overlay) and into private constitutional (non-taxable) jurisdiction, go to inalienableuniversity.com.
Imagine being on the Oregon Trail during the 1800's and they told you the 40 acres you want to homestead was actually a backdoor scam to turn you into an indentured servant on a government tax farm?
Ever wonder where this phrase "Real Estate" comes from? It's just a different way of spelling/saying "ROYAL Estate".
Indiana is an estate of the Vatican-Crown legal (but not lawful) entity consortium ever since the labor of men/women and all their property was handed over to the them during the FDR regime bankruptcy proceedings.
They wrote down their rules on paper and suckered everyone else into believing them. Thus, the "rule makers" are the current RULERS. That they have the sheeple duped into believing they're making "laws" is doubly-devastating.
Until we-the-peeps see through the lies, that we don't need any rulers, aka "Mis-leaders", but rather, they need us, the fun continues!
I am not a lawyer, so I will cut to the fact. The tax is illegal. It connects you to inflation. It also connects you to the tax assessment ~ go round. What happens is the lenders allow buyers to " Roll " Fees into the Mortgage. Closing costs, title searches, addendums to repairs and worse cash back. The Fake Tax Assessment Team, without failure ALL Across America rolls in and views the LOT of housing TOGETHER. So House Price Increase lights up their radar, and pocketbooks. The housing prices go up year over year from INFLATION & MORTGAGE FRAUD.
So if I were you I would yell " RICO " from the chandeliers.
This means they are colluding with banks to inflate the value. This includes the Fed Reserve Manipulation of Inflation.
They have now been CAUGHT with money printing machines without records. Just flooding the world with cash and devaluing the dollar. They are on record with Mortgage after Mortgage with money borrowed to pay for things, BEYOND THE HOUSE, that the Tax Assessment INTENTIONALLY IGNORES.
TO TAKE, STEAL , MORE OF YOUR MONEY.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.
RICO, IT GOES CLASS ACTION AND AMERICA WILL JOIN IN , EVERY STATE, EVERY HOME OWNER.
That is the potential, however, you could use the angle to significantly drop your own areas taxes back down to reality and remove the rats that did you wrong. Oh, lets not forget restitution. Back overcharges and Compensation for real pain and suffering for things you COULD NOT BUY BECAUSE THEY STOLE YOUR MONEY !!!
GOD BLESS PATRIOT, SHARE THIS FAR AND WIDE AND WWG1WGA ! AMEN
I wouldn't object to paying for services, but we're (rural, northern ontario) charged for things we don't get or want. We're propping up a failing municipality as they continue to waste money and hire more upper management.
It definitely feels like an attempt to persuade us to leave.
Should be the beginning of the end of the property tax. This is inflicted by unaccountable burocrats on landowners.
Property should only be taxed when sold
Never taxed. Fuck that
Exactly.
If there's one thing that should never be able to be taken from you it's property that's owned outright. That said, people need to be more responsible who they vote in locally and to stop thinking of their home as a piggy bank. It is not an asset, it's a liability.
Vote, lol. Where I come from, legitimate elections have been a fantasy for decades.
Protest property tax. I do mine online and over phone.
I honestly think the reason that Dominion sued Lindell, Fox News max, et al, is because Dominion controls the passage of referendums at local elections.
Think about it...
On many ballots, you will see a referendum for tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars in school referendums, utility referendums, etc.
What an interesting pitch Dominion could have when "selling" their machines to local boards.
Meanwhile, who gets stuck with the bill?
Oh, that's right! The homeowners with their property tax bills!
Might want to check into that type of VOTER FRAUD, too!
You can't vote out here. It's all "appointments". We don't have a single politician thats under 65 or related to another politician. The county has a boomer RINO death grip on everything. They recently cut down thousands of trees and took over farm fields to build solar farms.
That's crazy. Building solar farms while spraying chemtrails to block the sun. We are getting worked.
Remember they steal your vote, Demoncrats and RINOS. They are cut from the same scissors/cloth.
With rare exceptions, you do not own property in this country. You own indefinite full "interest" in the property but you do not actually own it.
Look up the difference between "fee simple" "fee absolute" and "allodial" titles. Most land in our country today is owned via fee simple or absolute, which is effectively part of the feudal system system of land ownership. Though you may own interest in the land and all that is on it, you're still beholden to regulations and eminent domain (and taxes). Essentially, the state is your superior landlord and, because of that, can take that property from you with "just" cause as long as they pay you "proper" compensation, which is also determinded by the group taking your land.
The ONLY way to own property outright is allodial title, that is the only system where you have proper ownership of the land with complete control. It's effectively a contract between you and God at that point. There are places in the northern Europe that still have land with allodial title but it's becoming more and more rare. There are some pieces of land here with that title but, at the first opportunity, municipalities tried to take it away so it's become pretty rare.
Moral of the story, land ownership in this country is a joke. Land of the free but we cannot own property outright, it's ridiculous.
I'm fighting taxes for forth year in a row. I urge everyone to do the same.
How?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_R2HPzzHi_I&pp=ygUdSG93IHRvIHByb3Rlc3QgcHJvcGVydHkgdGF4ZXM%3D
Here's for Texas. You need to find your counties appraisal website. Should be a protest link. You probably have a week left or so to do it.
Protest you tax. There's instructions on your appraisal office website for your county. Plenty of videos how to protest on YouTube
Ah, thought you meant not paying Fed income tax.
Trump already showed us the way to zero property taxes ....RE
Your state may be different...axe somebody
Plant a dead relative on the property, just like he did at his NJ golf course.
u/#catdance
How about pets? Mine are buried out back
They'll ask you to produce a death certificate...
Yes, Yes it is...🤪😆
A death certificate for my dogs?
Exactly. That's why they'll deny it.
Did you read the link you posted? It says that it can’t be done. “But what the law does require is a dedication of the land for burial purposes. The Trump National Golf Club would have to be re-dedicated as a cemetery, and that would bar revenues from golfing activities.”
EDIT: My original comment fell below the fold, late to the party...but what I wanna know is, How much tax is OP talking about???
Are you $500/yr, $5,000/yr, $50,000/yr??? Property taxes vary YUGELY across America...If you're at $5k or less, some of us have nearly no sympathy for you... that's how high taxes are around these parts...
Here's what NJ State law says, 2024: hiding ugly link
45:27-20 Exemption from certain taxes.
b. Land dedicated to cemetery purposes owned by any person shall be exempt from all taxes, rates or assessments.
c. Charges paid to a cemetery for an interment space shall be exempt from the payment of sales or use tax.
d. Trust funds, and the income from trust funds, held by a cemetery company shall be exempt from taxation and assessment, and sale, seizure or sale for collection of judgments against the cemetery company.
e. Land dedicated to cemetery purposes and structures, buildings, and equipment used for the maintenance of that land or the operation of a cemetery shall be exempt from sale for collection of judgments. Income derived from cemetery property other than income required by law to be deposited in trust funds or used for a particular purpose may be taken and used for the payment of a judgment against a cemetery company. If a judgment against a cemetery company cannot be paid, a court may also order the issuance of bonds, notes or other evidences of indebtedness by the cemetery company. This subsection shall not apply to liens existing on land before it is dedicated to cemetery purposes.
f. A street or road shall not be laid through any land of a cemetery company that is actually in use for cemetery purposes without the consent of the cemetery company, unless otherwise provided by law.
g. When bankruptcy, receivership or other court proceeding necessitates the selling of cemetery company lands, the court shall require the purchaser to incorporate as a cemetery company.
h. A receiver or trustee of a cemetery company appointed by a court may issue bonds, notes or other evidence of indebtedness that include a provision allowing the holders to select the governing body of the cemetery company until they are paid.
L.2003,c.261,s.20.
So... Option/provision (b) I guess?
FYI, I'm not a lawyer... but I play one on TV 😁
My Assessed value was 300,000 in 2020. It increased to 380,000 on January 1, 2021. Then it went up to 468,000 in 2022, 489,000 in 2023, same in 2024, and now it is 616,000. Last year's taxes were almost $5,000 annually. Next year's will probably be $6,500 or more. I am reading the link you posted and am very interested in declaring our property a cemetary. Cremated remains in Indiana by law are considered cremated remains whether it is an animal or a person. Guess what, I just so happen to have cremated remains of our pet dog....
Thanks for the numbas...
The problem with NJ is...(I mean in this context lol) Is that even if you're cremated, you MUST have a final resting place in the ground.
I bet the funeral lobbyists pushed for that one...
You can't just spread Donny's ashes into the sea... 😆
I think he's joking.
Tips would be great, we’re almost $5,000/yr
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_R2HPzzHi_I&pp=ygUdSG93IHRvIHByb3Rlc3QgcHJvcGVydHkgdGF4ZXM%3D
That was exciting... getting ready to drag the projector out for the neighborhood...😂
It pays to make wise decisions with your property...
Such as:
Minimize concrete. They look for it & tax it.
A wood deck vs a brick patio. They tax a deck, but not a patio.
Swimming pools...that in ground is going to cost you. Above ground, no problem.
Sheds ...under a certain size, no permit required and no tax assessment.
The property type/zoning also matters. An agricultural building on a farm is way less than a she shed or man cave garage in residential...
Etc...
In other words make your house on outside look like a dump. Lol
A stone patio vs a pressure treated weather beaten pretzel?
Hmm...
The goal is to lower your property value so it won't keep compounding.
List everything wrong with house. Take pictures. Get estimates on how much to fix in order to sell your house to compare with recent houses that sold in your area.
Go to your county's appraisal website and submit a protest. For our area we have til May 15th
I believe this is the dems pushing their agenda. But it is to late. Most people will scream and shout and the politicians will blame trump for the rise. But there will be enough people who did their homework and call out the traitors. This will open up the conversation on why we need property tax and the majority of home owners will actually side with the idea of no property tax. The mid terms will be the tax abolishing race where 1 candidate will talk about getting rid of them, while the other will refuse to talk about it. Then the "vote blue no matter who" will have the biggest choice of their lives. Vote to raise taxes, or vote to get rid of them. Until then, we have to feel the pain of taxes even though we are numb to them.
Our county is 100% (R) as is the state. They claim that because houses sold for more in 2023/2024 we have to increase your assessed values.
My thoughts as well. Everyone needs to push back.
Property taxes are by far the chief funding source for county governments. Counties provide roads, sheriffs, and health services. They do need some money, and they need to get it some way. And you can bet it will come from us. (Where else?)
Your county sucks but not everyones county in these beautiful united states does.
It should come from other countries paying us to sell us their shit and who are indebted to us for giving them aid. NEVER FROM US!!!
My city/county not only increased our property taxes due to the insane prices that houses were selling for back in 2022/2023, but additionally we have to pay and file yearly income taxes to the city as well, so they're not hurting for money here where I am. Edit to add, because of all that taxing, the school levies fail because nobody wants to volunteer to pay even more property tax, which is how the school levy gets funded.
Maybe true, but it should be sales tax. They can provide services based on what they afford to provide from that revenue source. I am 100% against property tax because with that you can never truly own your property when they government can file to take it for not paying tax on it. I am also not a fan of our taxed money being taxed again. Ie income tax then being forced to pay another tax on your already taxed money. We have a government spending problem not a government revenue problem.
You can't blame Trump for something that was in the works prior to his Administration.
This has nothing to do with Trump it has to do with each individual state government.
Yes.
anyone who wants to take a stance against property taxes should look into alphonse faggiolo. he explains how the scam works and is waiting for a sc ruling that will never come until we the people demand it.
e: for the lazy, https://m.youtube.com/@alphonsofaggiolo7639/videos
This was one of my biggest concerns. Because i knew if those globalist shills got into local government they could play with the property tax, and even though people owned their land, they could force them to sell by increasing taxes like this
We had a campaign sign in our yard from the opposition candidate for PVA in our county. He lost and, my property value went way up. Seems anyone who supported the loser got a nice property tax increase.
Indiana is capped at 1% for ownwer occupied, 2% for rentals. The issue is they are raising the assessed propery values and spending the money so it cant be reduced in future years.
So governments engaging in financial crimes as usual?
at the county level, but state does not complain about it.
I do not understand this "cap". If its capped at 1% why are my assessed structures / improvements increasing by 30% ?
Last year you had property valued at $100. This year, your property is valued at $130. Your tax amount went up 30% even though you still pay only 1% of the assessed value.
And value assessments are ridiculous. Two residentially zoned houses sold for 500,000 last year, so this year every other house in the zip code is worth more.
It's a shell game. Look over here, not over there.
Since Trump is going to lower the income tax, they'll take the windfall. 🤔😮😖
Like we were told in Mississippi a few years ago, "it's not a tax increase, we just reappraised everyone's property". BOY, that made me feel better!
Criminal double speak!
You can’t tell people you have to show them because they’re stupid
They did this to my moms rental property and made it so she couldn't afford to keep it. Now she is selling and hopes to get another property in a better location with lower tax. She is 78 and uses the rental income as her retirement. It's fucked...
Every homeowner needs to get pissed and let city council members and mayors know we see them as the greedy pieces of shit they are. Home owners need to stop being polite and publicly denounce these lawless “elected” thieves.
If property taxes are no longer collected, New York City will crumble faster than Joe Biden on a bicycle trying to sniff a child
Is that a promise?
this will lead to the demise of HOA's too. A lot of people are under the impression the HOA takes care of the roads but tax's do and lots of pot holes in these dem ran cities. so once people start realizes property taxes are non-essential it will lead to hoa's dues also to be non-essential.
wonder how may neighborhoods HOA's are already wrapping it up?
Don’t forget Utility Districts.
That's right, put in Private Trust, you will owe nothing and they can't take jack away from you.
These parasites need to prove contract with that said trust.
Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
Can you explain more on this, please?
A Public Trust is a registered setup that follows government rules—it's audited, pays tax, files returns, and its details are public. A Private Trust is unregistered and runs privately without those rules. It doesn’t file taxes or reports, and the trustee can borrow using trust assets if needed. It uses language that is not tied to corporations eg: income vs sustenance, children vs offspring.
Imagine keeping 100% of your sustenance.
---Grok AI--- Placing your home in a private trust, such as a revocable living trust, does not exempt you from paying West Virginia property taxes. Property taxes in West Virginia are assessed on real estate based on its value, regardless of whether the property is held in a trust or owned outright by an individual. The West Virginia Tax Division and local county assessors require property taxes to be paid on all taxable real estate, and trusts do not inherently provide an exemption from this obligation.
Here are key points to consider:
No General Exemption for Trusts: West Virginia law does not provide a blanket exemption from property taxes for properties held in private trusts. The tax obligation remains with the property itself, and the trustee or grantor (depending on the trust structure) is responsible for ensuring taxes are paid. Specific Exemptions Are Limited: West Virginia offers property tax exemptions for certain types of properties, such as those owned by religious, educational, or charitable organizations, but only if the property is used primarily for those purposes. A private trust holding a personal residence would not typically qualify for such exemptions unless it meets very specific criteria, which is rare for a home used as a primary residence. Revocable vs. Irrevocable Trusts: In a revocable living trust, you retain control over the property and are considered the owner for tax purposes. Property taxes will still apply as if you owned the home directly. In an irrevocable trust, the property is transferred out of your estate, but this does not automatically exempt it from property taxes. The trust itself becomes the legal owner, but West Virginia still assesses property taxes on the real estate unless it qualifies for a specific exemption. Additionally, irrevocable trusts are more complex and may have other tax implications, such as federal estate taxes, but they do not inherently avoid state property taxes. Homestead Exemption: West Virginia offers a Homestead Exemption for residents aged 65 or older or those who are permanently disabled, which reduces the taxable value of a primary residence by up to $20,000. This exemption applies to the property regardless of whether it’s in a trust, but the homeowner must occupy the home as their primary residence and meet eligibility criteria. If the home is in a trust, you’d perlu to confirm with your county assessor that the trust structure doesn’t affect eligibility. Risk of Non-Payment: If property taxes are not paid, a tax lien can be placed on the property, potentially leading to a tax sale, even if the property is held in a trust. Property tax liens have priority over other liens, including mortgages, so failing to pay could jeopardize ownership. Other Considerations: While a trust can help avoid probate and provide estate planning benefits, it does not shield the property from property taxes. Some people mistakenly believe trusts can reduce tax burdens, but in West Virginia, property taxes are tied to the property’s assessed value, not the ownership structure. If you’re exploring ways to minimize taxes, you might consider other strategies, such as challenging the property’s assessed value if you believe it’s inaccurate or applying for any applicable exemptions. Recommendation: Consult with a West Virginia estate planning attorney or tax professional to review your specific situation and trust structure. They can advise on whether your trust setup might qualify for any niche exemptions or if other tax-saving strategies are available. Additionally, contact your local county assessor’s office to clarify how placing your home in a trust might affect your eligibility for exemptions like the Homestead Exemption.
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Grok’s take only fits public or registered trusts. A real private trust runs under contract law, not government rules, so it’s not automatically tied to property tax. Trust law makes it clear: a private trust is a private agreement, not a public entity—unless you bring it into the public system by registering it or applying for exemptions.
Also, the Private domain is a state of mind. As a private individual, you can be in public and private realm, if you ran away to the private realm, goverment has no jurisdiction on you. Powerful stuff.
I'm sure ther are peds here that has more knowledge to share...
Increase in property taxes are typically voted on. But think about this: non-property owners can vote to increase property taxes on property owners. Seems like taxation w/o representation in a way.
Around here they cut property taxes but raise your value so you end up paying more. The assessment of my house has doubled in 5 years. I got what would normally be called a good raise. But my property taxes and insurance ate it up completely.
There shouldn't be property taxes for someone's primary residence. We should be able to live in our homes without being taxed. Investment property, second and third homes, rental units should be all that gets taxed
One of the only things the Dems in Calif had never been able to overturn was Prop 13.
It caps property tax increases at 2% a year.
Dems have tried repeatedly to overturn it but they fail ever time.
If they succeed, home ownership will be dead in Calif.
Yep. I bought my house in 2009 and it has since tripled in value, from 400k to 1.2m. Needless to say, I don’t have any desire to move, because even a lateral price move would triple my property taxes.
Take that money and LEAVE THE STATE. Arizona or Texas with 1 million dollars? You’d be set for decades….be real now
That's what I did last year.
Calif born and raised and left for a much better life.
All cities need to have a rule that only someone naturally born in that city is eligible to be mayor
Get a blue tarp for your roof. Check to see if your home owners covers "natural disasters" and dig on if your area is going to be a smart city or rail hub between smart cities...
This whole taxing structure is broken beyond belief. We need to start a movement and have everyone stop paying ALL taxes for everything. We fought and won this a long time ago yet here we are again. They are keeping you broke just barely surviving and when you check out your completely broke. This has to end!
"This whole taxing structure is
brokencorrupt beyond belief."I fight my property tax every year. Its annoying but I'm going to be a pain in their ass. They say not even 10 percent of people fight property tax anymore.
My neighbors don't want to fight so they can pay my share.
This is one of the reasons real estate in California is so valuable. This kind of shit doesn’t happen here
Move to where? Where do you go from Indiana to avoid this sh*t? I thought it was a red state.
They’ve been doing this in Texas for years…bought my house in 2013 for 208k, latest assessed value is 525k, so they raise your property taxes by 10% until it matches the assessed value. My mortgage is almost 500.00 more now just due to the tax increase. It’s robbery
Protest and fight your taxes. Deadline for us is May 15th. You can do online. Just say house overvalued over market and give them evidence.
I have every year, it takes some off but nothing significant. Helps with the new homestead exemption, but it’s still bullshit as they cook the numbers between home improvements/dwelling/land to get their numbers as they change between the three every year and yet it always comes out to a 19% increase from the year before.
Just keep getting them to lower property value. They upped my last year 20k but I did do fixes on house.
This year they are trying to do 14k more but I have alot of stuff I still would need to fix.
Better then doing nothing.
Here in East TN, Knoxville city taxes nearly doubled last year or the year before. Like most places the county is red and the city is blue. This city over spends on crazy liberal garbage and is nearly broke so they had to radically raise property taxes to avoid default.
You got to be kidding me! These people need to rise up and start fighting back… if they do nothing, well you get the idea 🤨
No, not here. The patient survived (USA) - paraphrasing Trump
TAKE THOSE GREEDY BASTARDS TO COURT
To learn how to take property out of the public (corporate U.S. overlay) and into private constitutional (non-taxable) jurisdiction, go to inalienableuniversity.com.
Imagine being on the Oregon Trail during the 1800's and they told you the 40 acres you want to homestead was actually a backdoor scam to turn you into an indentured servant on a government tax farm?
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Time to remove elected officials. County and city. They can cut government services. Police and fire stay. DOGE EM ALL!!!
Ever wonder where this phrase "Real Estate" comes from? It's just a different way of spelling/saying "ROYAL Estate".
Indiana is an estate of the Vatican-Crown legal (but not lawful) entity consortium ever since the labor of men/women and all their property was handed over to the them during the FDR regime bankruptcy proceedings.
They wrote down their rules on paper and suckered everyone else into believing them. Thus, the "rule makers" are the current RULERS. That they have the sheeple duped into believing they're making "laws" is doubly-devastating.
Until we-the-peeps see through the lies, that we don't need any rulers, aka "Mis-leaders", but rather, they need us, the fun continues!
I am not a lawyer, so I will cut to the fact. The tax is illegal. It connects you to inflation. It also connects you to the tax assessment ~ go round. What happens is the lenders allow buyers to " Roll " Fees into the Mortgage. Closing costs, title searches, addendums to repairs and worse cash back. The Fake Tax Assessment Team, without failure ALL Across America rolls in and views the LOT of housing TOGETHER. So House Price Increase lights up their radar, and pocketbooks. The housing prices go up year over year from INFLATION & MORTGAGE FRAUD.
So if I were you I would yell " RICO " from the chandeliers.
This means they are colluding with banks to inflate the value. This includes the Fed Reserve Manipulation of Inflation.
They have now been CAUGHT with money printing machines without records. Just flooding the world with cash and devaluing the dollar. They are on record with Mortgage after Mortgage with money borrowed to pay for things, BEYOND THE HOUSE, that the Tax Assessment INTENTIONALLY IGNORES.
TO TAKE, STEAL , MORE OF YOUR MONEY.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.
RICO, IT GOES CLASS ACTION AND AMERICA WILL JOIN IN , EVERY STATE, EVERY HOME OWNER.
That is the potential, however, you could use the angle to significantly drop your own areas taxes back down to reality and remove the rats that did you wrong. Oh, lets not forget restitution. Back overcharges and Compensation for real pain and suffering for things you COULD NOT BUY BECAUSE THEY STOLE YOUR MONEY !!!
GOD BLESS PATRIOT, SHARE THIS FAR AND WIDE AND WWG1WGA ! AMEN
I wouldn't object to paying for services, but we're (rural, northern ontario) charged for things we don't get or want. We're propping up a failing municipality as they continue to waste money and hire more upper management.
It definitely feels like an attempt to persuade us to leave.
No but states are making hay while the sunshines and they lose the ability constitutionally to tax.
I live in a condo. My price went up 225% last year and another 75% this year
criminal!