This is the most important comment here. This is a blatant privacy violation under federal law. They should be arrestes and shut down for demanding this "proof"
Eh in this case it'd be a small enough lawsuit that they'd probably get busted, only for the lawsuit to get a lot of news/traction because of the precedent it sets.
You never know, but it seems like they still have to very carefully curate the ones they rig.
Although this is not a HIPAA situation, I do think HIPAA should be used in a lawsuit.
HIPAA only applies to health care administrators in the billing department and health insurance companies or Medicare administrators. It applies when the service provider provides patient records for purpose of billing and payment.
Those people are required to keep records confidential.
The interesting thing is that it is a huge fine for a violation. The fine is $250,000.
I think that is clear evidence that the federal government takes seriously the security and confidentiality of health records, and should be justification for suing a private business for $250,000 for demanding disclosure of health records.
Don't know what a court would do with it, but it would be worth pursuing to see what happens.
You cannot demand that anyone divulge sensitive medical information about themselves nor can you release that information about someone else without thwir express written permission (such as you would see in an informed consent form in clinical trials, where certain pieces of health information are collected and used for analysis). This is against the law.
Hope their business closes up for good. We've learned nothing from the dictatorship of Germany. They've just tried 'guilt tripping' people into thinking it's 'selfish' to even question this tyranny.
My liberal friend smugly pointed out to me that proof of vaccine history is required to enroll your child into school and to fly to certain countries. And this should be up to the restaurant if they require it. My God some people just dont get it!!!
okaydoomer, posts like this is why I love this board. However, my lib friend was using it as an example of where it's perfectly acceptable to ask for medical history.
I just assumed cause there are federal laws protecting peoples medical records. One exception is schools for minors needing immunization records, but that's different than a private business. Because schools are government run, they are public sector. And that said, i think its bs that schools require that.
Again: preface - I don't disagree with the spirit.
However - 4th amendment applies to government and government entities. It does not apply to this instance.
IF they posted up a cop that required you to present information prior to entry AND used refusal to provide "papers" as cause to detain and search: 4th violation. By the cop.
The Fourth Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights whose purpose was to spell out to any public servant that THESE rights are not to be infringed upon ever. These rights are only a few that we, the people, should be enjoying.
Correct - which was part of my point - public servant/govt infringement.
There's a difference between "shouldn't do and is generally shitty" on the part of a non-govt entity and 4th amendment violation on the part of a govt entity/public servant.
I'm not saying "no rules" or abiding by the spirit of the 4th for non-govt entities or individuals, but I, individually, cannot violate your 4th amendment rights.
Example: if I break into your car and take something, and give it to the police as evidence of a crime, the 4th amendment doesn't provide protection against use of that evidence. (Still may not be admitted, but not due to 4th amendment violation).
However, if a cop does the same thing, it IS a 4th amendment argument.
In a civil case, the warrant requirement is in order to enforce a subpoena or court order (govt), to retrieve the information I'm looking for. But, that's just if I try to get it legally. Again, I'm - individually - not held to the constitutional provisions of the 4th.
No-ish. First, I'm not defending the request for proof - it's BS, and I agree with u/PeachAndLovePatriot
It's not a violaiton of HIPAA - why? HIPAA covers the medical providers and recipients of PII and health-records. It's a privacy and portability regulation to permit sharing of necessary records among materially-involved parties, as well as the subject party's ability to know and control what is shared.
ADA has a bit more coverage, but only if you can argue that you are being discriminated against on account of a disability, and that would have to be a disability that would prevent use of a mask. In that case, you could still be denied travel, and would have to fight the response in court, and disclose (as evidence) your disability. You'd also have to demonstrate you gave the airline sufficient information to show that their decision was informed and discriminatory.
Bottom line: I can ask. You don't have to tell me. I "can" refuse service.
Now, the tricky part for the businesses becomes "Why can a business be protected in THIS case, but be forced (under 1st and 14th amendments) to bake a cake, provide church services?" THAT'S the slippery-slope they've created with those cases. Good luck, though, getting those entered as cited cases if you're fighting it, because we've all seen how corrupt and poisoned the judiciary has become.
As you reach here: for the record. I have not worn a mask. I refuse to wear a mask. I refuse to patronize businesses that demand masks. I will not fly for this reason.
I am simply stating the lack of actual applicability of HIPAA in this scenario. ADA, marginally, but you've got some burden to prove it. Retail will probably give up when pushed. Airlines will hold firm.
Now, it WOULD be a HIPAA violation if the retailer used your proof-of-vaccine to call the provider/doctor to verify it. Especially if the provider confirmed it - this falls entirely in HIPAA camp, as it involves you (patient) and the provider, who are covered subjects and parties under HIPAA.
Ironically, Seal Beach much like Huntington Beach in the past was looked upon as a "poor mans" Newport Beach. So, once upon a time it was super affordable to purchase a home in Seal Beach and because of that it has a very heavy first responder community made up of Police, Sheriff and Fire Fighters... think "red as red can be." Seal Beach is also one of the safest cities to live in (in regards to population size) along the coast of California.
This store fucked with the wrong community. And they are finding out.
Not my freedom it didn't. I never locked down. I never sheltered in place. I travel when and where I want to go. I will wear a mask to avoid confrontations with the genuinely scared covid cowards, but that is my choice. I take it off whenever I want too.
Nor mine-I don't like confrontations either and when a formerly friendly store (Krogers affiliate) that never said anything about my no mask thing suddenly shows like a memo was sent for employees to enforce compliance (or else) I stopped going; side note here: when I asked the clerk "This is still America isn't it??" she replied " this isn't about freedom, it's about safety" This truly shows the tyranny was effective in its mind set approval...
CDC is a private non-profit organization, NOT a Federal agency. They have as much power to tell you to do something as Corky the Clown. They've cultivated the ILLUSION of having more power because people are too stupid to find out.
Federal agencies do not make law. Federal agencies do not rule over the people. When people finally GET that, this shite will stop. Three branches of government: legislative, judicial, executive. Only one makes law and those laws MUST be constitutional. Long past time to demand these things.
I agree, they are allowed to limit the number of customers they serve based upon arbitrary rules. However, if this becomes standard practice this policy would become quite discriminatory.
Can i put a sign in front of my business that says "Whites only"? Sure, its stupid to do so as you alienate potential customers.
I don’t think so. My sister has worked at a friends restaurant for years and she would get mad because people who’s animals were obviously not service, they were not allowed to ask for any proof because of HIPPA
Did you actually read the article you linked? Go back and look at the sections "Who Must Follow These Laws" and "Who Is Not Required to Follow These Laws."
Its not a HIPAA violation. HIPAA only applies to entities that provided you with medical treatment. Anyone else can ask for them, condition their help on your disclosing them, or publishing them if they found them on the street, and HIPAA wouldn't apply.
Lolz "Show proof" - yes here's my arm, if you look really close you may see where the needle went in! It's getting mighty close to an age where we put symbols on people to denote stuff, oh wait didn't that already happen?
The “vaccine” has only been given Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), not approval! It’s experimental! Anybody that gets it is volunteering to be a guinea pig!
Is it a HIPAA violation to "ask" for medical information?
Its not. As is par for the course around here, most people on here don't know what the fuck they are talking about. HIPAA applies to entities that provide medical care, and entities that are contracted by them to provide services. It doesn't apply to anyone else, and does not make it illegal to ask you for a medical history.
You’re right on this. It’s only a potential hipaa violation if someone else shares your medical information without your consent (and not even always then). This is a bad idea, but not illegal on its own.
But what about a refusal of service based on medical documentation?
I understand that businesses typically reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, but doing so based on medical records sounds like it may be illegal.
Pfft! Eating at a restaurant is a bit of a luxury for many of us and we have myriad choices of places to do that. This choice may not go very well for them, unless the town is fully populated by the clueless.
San Diego is breeding ground for this ...I have stood my ground here in SD against the mask mandate, I’ve never wore one ... honestly I never see anyone here in San Diego where I live without one. I actually wear a little badge that I made up my self it looks official it’s a medical exempt little badge card that I wear on a lanyard! however, it’s been getting even harder with that! shamelessly I now pretend when I’m attacked and confronted at the door or once I enter.. that I can’t speak and I mouth the words “I have a medical exempt” and point to my badge ! I’m usually treated quiet kindly after that ..shameful I know but whatever it takes . I refuse to bow!,,, however this new “no shot no service” some who commented on here are correct , many elite and yuppies are pro proud of their poison shot and want to be protected from us .. and would prefer not having to ever dine etc with us commoners ! they wanted to live in “ their world “ without us before ....this gives them somewhat of a legal right .. it’s happening , Many will say it can’t hippa etc ..but we never thought the mask or vaxx situation would happen either, so if something doesn’t turn around soon it will happen, the masses here are demanding it. It’s against the law to enforce a mask in CA but stores do , they get away with it by saying that we can order our groceries online and have them delivered they’ll say that going to a restaurant and eating is a luxury, we can have the food delivered it’s horrifying!
I was stationed at Pendleton so I have a fondness for San Diego. Some of the best restaurants. I feel like in a short time, we will know the answer whether or not the vax is harmful or just a placebo. Till then, if I were you-I’d not give them my business. It seems stressful. I don’t blame you for wearing an exempt badge. That’s a good idea for many anywhere struggling with mandates, actually. But-if they’re going to be such flaming a$$holes about this, then they deserve to go out of business. I’m sure you’re not the only one who thinks it’s all BS and are offended by the overreach.
You could also ask these businesses this-if the CDC says you’re still contagious even after having the vax (and they’re for sure saying this; you still have to wear a mask after vax, still have to social distance, still can spread the disease) then what good is the vax? That’s my current question.
And over my dead body will I ever submit to the vax.
Also, I look at it like this. It’s wartime. We’re at war. I’m not sure our sacrifices of not going out to restaurants and finding unique ways of socializing is really that bad. I’m not saying this to patronize. I’m just saying-they don’t deserve our business and we can use our creativity to figure out new ways of coping. Supper clubs is one way. Meal delivery services are cool. I get one that I really like 3 days a week for two people. I can cook a good meal for someone else and enjoy a bottle of wine or whatever for a lot less money and stress than going out to eat and getting enraged. Because that’s the first thing that happens to me when I go anywhere requiring a mask. I always say loudly “ok I’ll put on my worthless commie mask” and I remain agitated the whole time. Ugh sorry this is long. I’m with you, though.
Agreed. It’s enraging we are pulling back on expenditures in general. Wish we could make it known publicly why we aren’t going to certain stores/restaurants/etc.
Social Credits are planned for us all.... it’s going to be pushed by those in power and asked for by normies....!
Q posted about what is coming.... references to Chyna and Big Tech...
The Democrats will use the panic of the ‘pandemic’ to implement.... and even comments or rather threads on here and other Q sites will be used for justifying such moves and normies will ask for it... threads like forging vaccines papers or ignoring mask mandates and comments agreeing with that will be blown up by the MSM narrative ..... it’s all in the UNs agenda 2030 and 2050.... which we are signed up to....
It’s important for us all to understand that some of those creating such threads can be the enemy hoping to get us biting at these sort of issues.... be always aware that any thread can be a trap for some on here to respond to.... and later on those comments will be used to justify their plans to implement Social Credits... like if you post a comment on twatter (when these social credits com) and it offends someone then you will get negative credits and that might prevent you from being allowed in to your town to shop or from travelling out of town.... the whole concept has been trialed in Chyna with help from Silicon Valley....!
Vaccine passports and control of movement even at moving around town is coming...
Here’s a quick few links to start anyone on to what to expect... there’s some good videos on YT of interviews with western workers in Chyna being subject to social credits....
If u own a restaurant Nd Re reading this. Know you are fucking insane If you do this. I'll never ever use your service and actively try to ensure you close your doors.
I hope they go out of business. This is clearly against the law of the US and ethical standards
Someone needs to sue them for HIPAA violations
This is the most important comment here. This is a blatant privacy violation under federal law. They should be arrestes and shut down for demanding this "proof"
Its actually not, and anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong.
Hi handshake, did you come here to glow?
I'm a physician, I know HIPAA. Go away
Covid is a hoax, bro.
Screw your book-selling link.
Screw your book-selling fagotry.
And a massive lawsuit to make a painful example out of them for others to see.
Agreed but what are the chances of a legit judge and not an idiot put there under some special conditions except knowing law ( communist ) ?
Eh in this case it'd be a small enough lawsuit that they'd probably get busted, only for the lawsuit to get a lot of news/traction because of the precedent it sets.
You never know, but it seems like they still have to very carefully curate the ones they rig.
THERE IS NO LAW. Show the law. Show the proof of face-diapering effectiveness. And not some blatherings by the CommunistDemonCriminals.....
Although this is not a HIPAA situation, I do think HIPAA should be used in a lawsuit.
HIPAA only applies to health care administrators in the billing department and health insurance companies or Medicare administrators. It applies when the service provider provides patient records for purpose of billing and payment.
Those people are required to keep records confidential.
The interesting thing is that it is a huge fine for a violation. The fine is $250,000.
I think that is clear evidence that the federal government takes seriously the security and confidentiality of health records, and should be justification for suing a private business for $250,000 for demanding disclosure of health records.
Don't know what a court would do with it, but it would be worth pursuing to see what happens.
You cannot demand that anyone divulge sensitive medical information about themselves nor can you release that information about someone else without thwir express written permission (such as you would see in an informed consent form in clinical trials, where certain pieces of health information are collected and used for analysis). This is against the law.
Until, of course, the demoncraps pass a law making it an exception.
Of what? Stupidity?
Hope their business closes up for good. We've learned nothing from the dictatorship of Germany. They've just tried 'guilt tripping' people into thinking it's 'selfish' to even question this tyranny.
I'd stay a lot more than "six feet" distant from that place! lol.
I'd break down into a fake coughing fit near the entrance
Seal beach, ca. Bistro St. Germain
Yelp reviews disabled : https://m.yelp.com/biz/bistro-st-germain-seal-beach
As u/dumb_okie points out, they've taken down their contact us page. https://bistrostgermain.co
they've also taken down their Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/bistrostgermain/
My liberal friend smugly pointed out to me that proof of vaccine history is required to enroll your child into school and to fly to certain countries. And this should be up to the restaurant if they require it. My God some people just dont get it!!!
You should ask them for proof they have a brain.
Is it? Religious exemptions say otherwise.
okaydoomer, posts like this is why I love this board. However, my lib friend was using it as an example of where it's perfectly acceptable to ask for medical history.
Is it though? Just because it happens, does not make it "perfectly acceptable". What makes it perfectly acceptable?
its commonality?
Yeah, don't disagree at all. I figured you were right that this wasn't US, but since it's CA, it kinda isn't
I just assumed cause there are federal laws protecting peoples medical records. One exception is schools for minors needing immunization records, but that's different than a private business. Because schools are government run, they are public sector. And that said, i think its bs that schools require that.
Yeah but EVERY PUBLIC SERVANT (government at any level) is answerable to the people, who employ them. WE have the power and need to take it back.
Your spouse is wrong. HIPAA only applies to covered entities and their business associates. It doesn't apply to anyone or anything else.
Source: I've performed HIPAA security audits on hospitals.
However, the Fourth Amendment trumps all of them and it's long past time to insist on obedience to the Constitution.
Again: preface - I don't disagree with the spirit.
However - 4th amendment applies to government and government entities. It does not apply to this instance.
IF they posted up a cop that required you to present information prior to entry AND used refusal to provide "papers" as cause to detain and search: 4th violation. By the cop.
The Fourth Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights whose purpose was to spell out to any public servant that THESE rights are not to be infringed upon ever. These rights are only a few that we, the people, should be enjoying.
Correct - which was part of my point - public servant/govt infringement.
There's a difference between "shouldn't do and is generally shitty" on the part of a non-govt entity and 4th amendment violation on the part of a govt entity/public servant.
I'm not saying "no rules" or abiding by the spirit of the 4th for non-govt entities or individuals, but I, individually, cannot violate your 4th amendment rights.
Example: if I break into your car and take something, and give it to the police as evidence of a crime, the 4th amendment doesn't provide protection against use of that evidence. (Still may not be admitted, but not due to 4th amendment violation).
However, if a cop does the same thing, it IS a 4th amendment argument.
In a civil case, the warrant requirement is in order to enforce a subpoena or court order (govt), to retrieve the information I'm looking for. But, that's just if I try to get it legally. Again, I'm - individually - not held to the constitutional provisions of the 4th.
No-ish. First, I'm not defending the request for proof - it's BS, and I agree with u/PeachAndLovePatriot
It's not a violaiton of HIPAA - why? HIPAA covers the medical providers and recipients of PII and health-records. It's a privacy and portability regulation to permit sharing of necessary records among materially-involved parties, as well as the subject party's ability to know and control what is shared.
ADA has a bit more coverage, but only if you can argue that you are being discriminated against on account of a disability, and that would have to be a disability that would prevent use of a mask. In that case, you could still be denied travel, and would have to fight the response in court, and disclose (as evidence) your disability. You'd also have to demonstrate you gave the airline sufficient information to show that their decision was informed and discriminatory.
Bottom line: I can ask. You don't have to tell me. I "can" refuse service.
Now, the tricky part for the businesses becomes "Why can a business be protected in THIS case, but be forced (under 1st and 14th amendments) to bake a cake, provide church services?" THAT'S the slippery-slope they've created with those cases. Good luck, though, getting those entered as cited cases if you're fighting it, because we've all seen how corrupt and poisoned the judiciary has become.
As you reach here: for the record. I have not worn a mask. I refuse to wear a mask. I refuse to patronize businesses that demand masks. I will not fly for this reason.
I am simply stating the lack of actual applicability of HIPAA in this scenario. ADA, marginally, but you've got some burden to prove it. Retail will probably give up when pushed. Airlines will hold firm.
Now, it WOULD be a HIPAA violation if the retailer used your proof-of-vaccine to call the provider/doctor to verify it. Especially if the provider confirmed it - this falls entirely in HIPAA camp, as it involves you (patient) and the provider, who are covered subjects and parties under HIPAA.
Okay, so forged "certification/identification" it is.
Like being under 21 all over again, bahahaha
I guess not since you have a choice to drive.
Unless you live in Alaska, that is.
you'd think since they had to do this, they would rethink their "requirements"
They might find it easier just to take down the sign requiring customers to have a vaccine. Covid cowards.
Ironically, Seal Beach much like Huntington Beach in the past was looked upon as a "poor mans" Newport Beach. So, once upon a time it was super affordable to purchase a home in Seal Beach and because of that it has a very heavy first responder community made up of Police, Sheriff and Fire Fighters... think "red as red can be." Seal Beach is also one of the safest cities to live in (in regards to population size) along the coast of California.
This store fucked with the wrong community. And they are finding out.
St. Germain is an occult/New Age figure. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Medical tyranny that could and did short circuit American freedoms... :(
Not my freedom it didn't. I never locked down. I never sheltered in place. I travel when and where I want to go. I will wear a mask to avoid confrontations with the genuinely scared covid cowards, but that is my choice. I take it off whenever I want too.
Nor mine-I don't like confrontations either and when a formerly friendly store (Krogers affiliate) that never said anything about my no mask thing suddenly shows like a memo was sent for employees to enforce compliance (or else) I stopped going; side note here: when I asked the clerk "This is still America isn't it??" she replied " this isn't about freedom, it's about safety" This truly shows the tyranny was effective in its mind set approval...
Covid cowards. Those that give up liberty for security end up getting neither.
Covidiots
Sure turned me off to medicine.
It says CDC right there...
CDC is a private non-profit organization, NOT a Federal agency. They have as much power to tell you to do something as Corky the Clown. They've cultivated the ILLUSION of having more power because people are too stupid to find out.
TL;DR--Tell'em to fuck right off.
Federal agencies do not make law. Federal agencies do not rule over the people. When people finally GET that, this shite will stop. Three branches of government: legislative, judicial, executive. Only one makes law and those laws MUST be constitutional. Long past time to demand these things.
No problem..... :-)
Ya hear government agents getting royalties for their poisions ever day. Juat as friendly as our wonderful FBI /s
March 4 2021: Deaths, miscarriages etc, “Whistleblower Reveals Many Pregnancy Complications following Experimental COVID Injections – “Vaccine Leaving a Trail of Devastated Mothers” https://archive.vn/spebS Cdc gets Royalties?
Super trustworthy bunch /s
Feb 26 2021 "CDC caught shaving DEATH's from VAERS System!" https://www.bitchute.com/video/IusxOn0sWL59/
July 7 2020: “CDC and WHO Corrupt Financial Entanglements with the Vaccine Industry” https://archive.vn/FASIc
Feb 5, 2010: “Why The WHO Faked A Pandemic” https://archive.vn/ck4Yp
“WHO is a front for these depopulation interests.” July 9 2007: “Jon Rappoport interview of ex vaccine researcher” https://archive.vn/o7u59
That Vaers analysis guy Office’s pretty well.
And your username ?
looks up from zoom kek
Not the point I was making but yes
Ah you were doing sarcasm, weren't you? Dammit, too early in the morning and still on my first cup of coffee. Sorry about that...
I almost fell out of my chair! LOL
And?
HIPAA only applies to healthcare providers. The restaurant is allowed to do something like this, but if they want to go broke I say let them.
I agree, they are allowed to limit the number of customers they serve based upon arbitrary rules. However, if this becomes standard practice this policy would become quite discriminatory.
Can i put a sign in front of my business that says "Whites only"? Sure, its stupid to do so as you alienate potential customers.
I don’t think so. My sister has worked at a friends restaurant for years and she would get mad because people who’s animals were obviously not service, they were not allowed to ask for any proof because of HIPPA
That's not because of HIPAA, its because of ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act).
That falls under “Americans with Disabilities Act”. HIPPA is purely for health care providers.
Wrong. It's federal privacy law.
https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/guidance-materials-for-consumers/index.html
Did you actually read the article you linked? Go back and look at the sections "Who Must Follow These Laws" and "Who Is Not Required to Follow These Laws."
Not to be a dick but your link proves what I just said.
Its not a HIPAA violation. HIPAA only applies to entities that provided you with medical treatment. Anyone else can ask for them, condition their help on your disclosing them, or publishing them if they found them on the street, and HIPAA wouldn't apply.
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Guess to many complaints already, their contact us page is down.
And their yelp reviews are disabled. And they took down their Instagram...
Like your username, too. we're in the middle of moving back to OK. Getting out of TX. Rural, 10 acres, and - wait for it - 1Gbps fiber to the wall.
Grew up in TX. I identify as an Okie.
Boycott business that does this.
We the people have the power.
No....no....and.....more no.
WTF...insanity has no bounds.
The fact is, ALOT of yuppies are proud of their vaccinations. They’d be more then happy to comply, and get a privilege others don’t.
It’s their greater then thou mentality.
Then they wonder why they’re unhappy with their lives with no real friends or family!
I hope they instantly go out of business.
Let's break the dam on bull shit. If we all file complaints on everyone requiring us to disclose medical info all at once it will overwhelm the system. Enjoy: https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/filing-a-complaint/index.html
Lolz "Show proof" - yes here's my arm, if you look really close you may see where the needle went in! It's getting mighty close to an age where we put symbols on people to denote stuff, oh wait didn't that already happen?
heh "look at the palsy on my face, that's your proof"
Where is this?
Of course: Commifornia.
A news search for this place comes up with a chef being accused of rape.
Figures CA
Once their restaurant goes tits up from this boneheaded move, they could change industries and become a hardware store.
Because they're a bunch of fucking tools.
Laughed out loud
Who downvoted here, more shill invaders?
how long before they go out of business?
Hubris.
The “vaccine” has only been given Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), not approval! It’s experimental! Anybody that gets it is volunteering to be a guinea pig!
Helloooo total HIPAA violation
Its not. As is par for the course around here, most people on here don't know what the fuck they are talking about. HIPAA applies to entities that provide medical care, and entities that are contracted by them to provide services. It doesn't apply to anyone else, and does not make it illegal to ask you for a medical history.
You’re right on this. It’s only a potential hipaa violation if someone else shares your medical information without your consent (and not even always then). This is a bad idea, but not illegal on its own.
It's probably a violation for their chef to rape women. Look it up.
Darryl Lee Matanane
You make a fair point, and I agree.
But what about a refusal of service based on medical documentation?
I understand that businesses typically reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, but doing so based on medical records sounds like it may be illegal.
So how long will the restaurant sit empty before that sign magically disappears?
Try to go there and eat, get denied. Now you can sue. Make money by defeating the idiocy and evils of others
LOL, they will be out of business sooner than they think
Pfft! Eating at a restaurant is a bit of a luxury for many of us and we have myriad choices of places to do that. This choice may not go very well for them, unless the town is fully populated by the clueless.
Indeed. Maybe best to add a little stickie: Analswabs mandatory
Laughing my ass off
San Diego is breeding ground for this ...I have stood my ground here in SD against the mask mandate, I’ve never wore one ... honestly I never see anyone here in San Diego where I live without one. I actually wear a little badge that I made up my self it looks official it’s a medical exempt little badge card that I wear on a lanyard! however, it’s been getting even harder with that! shamelessly I now pretend when I’m attacked and confronted at the door or once I enter.. that I can’t speak and I mouth the words “I have a medical exempt” and point to my badge ! I’m usually treated quiet kindly after that ..shameful I know but whatever it takes . I refuse to bow!,,, however this new “no shot no service” some who commented on here are correct , many elite and yuppies are pro proud of their poison shot and want to be protected from us .. and would prefer not having to ever dine etc with us commoners ! they wanted to live in “ their world “ without us before ....this gives them somewhat of a legal right .. it’s happening , Many will say it can’t hippa etc ..but we never thought the mask or vaxx situation would happen either, so if something doesn’t turn around soon it will happen, the masses here are demanding it. It’s against the law to enforce a mask in CA but stores do , they get away with it by saying that we can order our groceries online and have them delivered they’ll say that going to a restaurant and eating is a luxury, we can have the food delivered it’s horrifying!
I was stationed at Pendleton so I have a fondness for San Diego. Some of the best restaurants. I feel like in a short time, we will know the answer whether or not the vax is harmful or just a placebo. Till then, if I were you-I’d not give them my business. It seems stressful. I don’t blame you for wearing an exempt badge. That’s a good idea for many anywhere struggling with mandates, actually. But-if they’re going to be such flaming a$$holes about this, then they deserve to go out of business. I’m sure you’re not the only one who thinks it’s all BS and are offended by the overreach.
You could also ask these businesses this-if the CDC says you’re still contagious even after having the vax (and they’re for sure saying this; you still have to wear a mask after vax, still have to social distance, still can spread the disease) then what good is the vax? That’s my current question.
And over my dead body will I ever submit to the vax.
Also, I look at it like this. It’s wartime. We’re at war. I’m not sure our sacrifices of not going out to restaurants and finding unique ways of socializing is really that bad. I’m not saying this to patronize. I’m just saying-they don’t deserve our business and we can use our creativity to figure out new ways of coping. Supper clubs is one way. Meal delivery services are cool. I get one that I really like 3 days a week for two people. I can cook a good meal for someone else and enjoy a bottle of wine or whatever for a lot less money and stress than going out to eat and getting enraged. Because that’s the first thing that happens to me when I go anywhere requiring a mask. I always say loudly “ok I’ll put on my worthless commie mask” and I remain agitated the whole time. Ugh sorry this is long. I’m with you, though.
Agreed. It’s enraging we are pulling back on expenditures in general. Wish we could make it known publicly why we aren’t going to certain stores/restaurants/etc.
And yet voter ID is racist because POC's are incapable of having ID. Weird
Stop putting your racist assumptions that minorities have intelligence onto other people, you racist!
Oh HELLS no. Going to the competitor who WANTS my business.
This is comical. 2 weeks? It's takes months to actually even start to be effective.
I would make my own "proof" card written in crayon to show them.
It would have about as much science behind IT as they have behind THEIRS.
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Not somewhere I’d give my business too.
Not possible. The Moderna shot is gene therapy, not a vaccine
The unofficial version of what is to come....!
Social Credits are planned for us all.... it’s going to be pushed by those in power and asked for by normies....!
Q posted about what is coming.... references to Chyna and Big Tech...
The Democrats will use the panic of the ‘pandemic’ to implement.... and even comments or rather threads on here and other Q sites will be used for justifying such moves and normies will ask for it... threads like forging vaccines papers or ignoring mask mandates and comments agreeing with that will be blown up by the MSM narrative ..... it’s all in the UNs agenda 2030 and 2050.... which we are signed up to....
It’s important for us all to understand that some of those creating such threads can be the enemy hoping to get us biting at these sort of issues.... be always aware that any thread can be a trap for some on here to respond to.... and later on those comments will be used to justify their plans to implement Social Credits... like if you post a comment on twatter (when these social credits com) and it offends someone then you will get negative credits and that might prevent you from being allowed in to your town to shop or from travelling out of town.... the whole concept has been trialed in Chyna with help from Silicon Valley....!
Vaccine passports and control of movement even at moving around town is coming...
Here’s a quick few links to start anyone on to what to expect... there’s some good videos on YT of interviews with western workers in Chyna being subject to social credits....
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/china-social-credit-system-explained
https://nhglobalpartners.com/chinas-social-credit-system-explained/
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If u own a restaurant Nd Re reading this. Know you are fucking insane If you do this. I'll never ever use your service and actively try to ensure you close your doors.
Don’t let this happen.
Those who eat at restaurants and those who don’t.
Those who flight and those who don’t.
We have to stop this. Society will fracture and we will be oppressed.
If they want vax’d customers...they’re going to have a problem filling seats pretty soon.
MY BODY, MY CHOICE! Shun that business now.