We could “drain the swamp”
We could “arrest the cabal”
And if we left USURY in place,
The cabal, and the swamp, would be back in business without missing a beat.
The cabal, and the swamp, were able to gain power and influence thru usury.
Usury is the charging of money, for the use of money
Usury is legally defined as charging more interest than is allowed BY LAW.
Jimmy Carter deregulated usury, because poor people needed more DEBT.
Usury has an insatiable appetite, and it always starts slow, turns a corner, and “goes asymptote”, or as they say “to the moon”
Right now we are in the vertical asymptote part of the curve, which is the part just before the big crash.
The crash will happen. That is a certainty.
But how we react to that crash, will be the legacy we leave our children
We NEED to outlaw USURY, at any rate.
All money is to be lent at 0.00% interest.
Any interest rate above 0.00% is a felony punishable by 5 years in prison.
USURY is the way that “the man” skims all of the wealth off of the working people.
ALL WEALTH is derived from LABOR.
And yet, the laborers hardly have anything!
Where does the wealth go?
The wealth is taken from the worker, in the form of income taxes on his paycheck.
Those income taxes go to pay USURY, which is the interest on the so-called “national debt”
The federal income tax was put into place around 1913, which is the same time the Federal Reserve and IRS came into existence.
They had to pass the 16th CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT in 1906 to be able to tax the US workers
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
We need to repeal the 16th amendment, or better yet, amend the amendment, to specifically FORBID the US Congress from having the power to lay or collect taxes on incomes, from whatever sources derived...
Wealth is “redistributed” from the worker, to the bank, in the form of USURY.
The worker pays interest on a mortgage, and interest on a car loan, and interest on credit cards, and interest on student loans,
The worker pays USURY when he pays property taxes on his home, if that money goes to pay interest on bonds.
The USURY of the Federal Reserve is the mechanism by which the Rothschild and Rockefeller et al took over control of the US government, and the American people.
Some of you don’t remember, but back in 2008 there was a HUGE banking crisis,
And at that time, the bankers ‘metaphorically’ held a gun to Nancy Pelosi, and the bankers demanded something like $700Billion in taxpayer money. When asked about how they came up with that number, Pelosi replied that “they needed a really big number”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007–2008
At that time, USURY had already run its course, and was on the verge of collapse,
The bankers frantically tried to ‘correct’, by lowering the USURY rate down lower, and lower, until it was almost at 0%
The reason the bankers kept lowering the rate, was because the internet kept talking about USURY.
So by lowering the interest rate to near 0%, the bankers were able to take USURY debate off the table, while remaining in power, playing the long game.
Recently, the Federal Reserve has been raising interest rates, because, paraphrase, they merely wanted to set interest rates to be closer to where they have traditionally been.
“Traditionally”, interest rates have been used to skim the wealth from the working people.
The Federal Reserve doubled interest rates!
And then, the Federal Reserve doubled interest rates again!
We are still paying interest on the debts incurred to fight World War 1, and World War 2, and every other conflict up to today.
https://i.redd.it/v9p3a4p3q4z31.jpg
We buy wars on credit.
“Nothing can stop what is coming”
what is coming, is a super crash.
But the people, the usurers, who are responsible for the crash, of course will want to remain in power after the crash. They have become accustomed to the lifestyle, and will do anything to maintain that lifestyle.
USURY is how they all came to power,
And ABOLISHING USURY is how they will be permanently removed from power.
End The Fed
End The IRS
Abolish Usury
I’ve never heard about this and I’m fascinated. And a well thought out post with plenty of sauce. I’ma sticky it up.
Thanks for the sticky!
Also, USURY is a topic that comes up in religion,
In Islam, they call it Riba, and its generally frowned upon, which is why (((Western Bankers))) always smear “Islamic Banking” in the news media.
Jesus Christ Himself confronted the USURERS aka the (((Money Changers)))
Which is why the money changers hate Jesus Christ even today
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple
yeah
usury is not ANY interest
Usury doesnt have an agreed upon definition
generally it’s understood as predatory or fraudulent
for instance our current banking system
fraudulent because they create money out of thin air and THEN lend it
Thats how it used to be defined. Then they played word games.
There is a reasonable amount of interest to charge since money that a person does not have now is worth more than in the future if that person can put it to good use now.
Predatory interest is usury. Interest that fairly accounts for inflation and risk of loss of capital is the only reason that anyone loans any money at all.
the actual problem is fiat currency and the combined frauds of income tax, money creation from nothing for the purpose of charging interest, and inflation caused by unsound currency.
Read some Rothbard, Mises etc
I disagree with you and agree with the op. Usury is the actual problem and the basis for all of those other problems.
If you aren’t going to articulate your argument, your declarative statement is irrelevant and no one gives a fuck.
Racine, Wisconsin is the “Root” and model for their Agenda.
There are many reasons why the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and Johnsons are closely connected with and invested in Wisconsin, Arizona and New York. The Astors were the family who originally controlled Racine. Gilbert Knapp worked for them.
What did Alfred Lawson propose long ago regarding banking and direct credit? What did he and his brother propose for professional baseball before Jackie Robinson was born? What were some of his other inventions? Why did the 8th Wonder of the World in Racine County, Wisconsin need to include his property?
What was the Second Great Awakening, and what are the Voree plates? How is the Book of Mormon based on Kabbalah? Who did Joseph Smith claim to be and who was his successor? Why did Mitt Romney choose Paul Ryan as his running mate?
What is the Dome of the Rock? What is the Temple Mount? Why did Tim Dolan move to Wisconsin and how was he rewarded?
Why did Frederick Gates become Rockefeller’s most trusted advisor after marrying his replacement wife in Racine? How did his advice lead to what is happening today with the Gates Foundation, Rotary, Mason Lab, COVID and vaccines? What was the real purpose of the China Medical Board? It was to eliminate the rise of Christianity in China through “health and science.” Did it work?
Their Luciferian interfaith alliance agenda is not only global enslavement. They aim to control every aspect of life and community from conception to cradle to career to grave and beyond.
Their agenda is Eternal Enslavement forged through the great deception of Sustainability (Satan’s Ability) with the Mark of the Beast enforced by smart cities, resilient communities, quantum AI and community policing. Racine is the model for all of these.
The Parousia begins by exposing the Root - Racine.
Jesus Christ is The Lamb. The Truth is The Lion.
We have made the point for years since before Q existed.
US Senate Anon was the Anon before Q who said this before they vanished:
Racine is the reason why Reddit Pizzagate was shut down and why Voat shut down. Paul Ryan is the real secret of the Tarmac meeting. Slavery never ended in Racine with Joshua Glover and the Underground Railroad. It evolved.
The point is that Racine means “Root” and it is the model community for Agenda 2030, the 4th Industrial Revolution, and the real Agenda beyond of global and Eternal Enslavement. The Root must be upended and their model must be turned against them.
Another point is that Point Place from That 70s Show is about Racine featuring a cast of future stars of Kabbalah, Freemasonry and Scientology with characters Red and Fez. The head of Shriners (Red Fez) is also from Racine. The historic Bellwether and model pivot district used to rig Wisconsin and the swing states was Racine. Many of the most important global decisions and models were made in Racine. It was also the once great invention capital of the world and model industrious city of America.
There is much more, going back to ancient civilizations and the Path of Souls that all connect with Racine. It sits on the shores of the largest freshwater lakes, and is the most important point on the planet in ancient, historic, past, present and future time.
Q and Donald Trump know all about Racine. They can Save the World with One Word.
I've seen you say that they can save the world with one word before but have you ever mentioned which word that is? If what you're saying is true and I think it very well may be, you must know the word to frame your statement that way, can you tell us what it is and how it could have such an impact?
He capitalized One Word.
Probably referring to the Bible.
The Word is “Racine”.
Their model for the real Agenda must be exposed and used against them as a model to Save the World.
We cannot win all of tens of thousands of battles divided throughout the world.
We only need to win One.
Racine is the heart and “Root” of the swamp.
Doesn't Amy Coney Barrett have something to do with Racine? Specifically her father.
The Racine Dominicans are one of the most powerful groups in America that few know the real story of.
What was Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s real name? Bauer.
Who were the Bauers of Bavaria?
What was the Bavarian Illuminati and did the Illuminati really disband?
It was the Astors who founded Racine.
No it would not be pointless. We can provide more links and details later, or search for any of these and be astounded to find how they all connect back to the Root.
There are also more links in the other comments posted here and back on Voat.
Search any of these topics for more verification -
He doesn't have answers, that's why he is asking you.
This is essentially old school copypasta - Racine is french for Root - the Root River runs through Racine. The theory is that the Rothschild's set up shop there when they fled Europe.
There's also a huge Mormon flavor to this if you dig a bit deeper, they basically claim Indians were angels and Jesus Christ was born in Racine for reals ... it's really exhausting to look into.
The whole copypasta is to get you to start asking specific questions and to find answers in mormonism. This is actual anti-Jesus.
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Among those contributing to the nation's westward expansion in the nineteenth century and to Wisconsin's early development were members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons). In 1835, Moses Smith helped establish Burlington and in 1837 organized Wisconsin's first Mormon congregation. His cabin stood across the river from the capital. Mormons helped develop communities in south-western and western Wisconsin (Jenkynsville in 1837, Blanchardville in 1842, and near La Crosse in 1844-1845), where they mined lead ore and farmed, and at sites along the Black River (1841-1844), where they harvested pine and floated it down the Mississippi River to build the Mormon temple in Nauvoo, Illinois. Oliver Cowdery, second only to Joseph Smith in the church's early history, was a lawyer and newspaper editor in Elkhorn. After Smith's 1844 murder in Illinois, Wisconsin Mormons either joined the migration to Utah or formed separatist churches in Racine.
Here are many links that help to explain how so many aspects of what is happening today all connect back to the Root - Racine.
Biden endorses referendum in highly unusual move: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2020/03/31/biden-endorses-milwaukee-racine-school-referendums-unusual-move/5094687002/
Wisconsin City Serves As Model For Community Policing: https://www.npr.org/2015/04/03/397325233/small-wisconsin-town-serves-as-model-for-community-policing
Testimony from Kline about this exact “flow of Zuckerberg’s money” to Racine https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1337477357947527171
Election scandal “roots” in Racine https://wisconsinspotlight.com/election-scandal-roots-in-racine/
Did WI-5 mayors break the law? https://wisconsinspotlight.com/did-wi-5-mayors-break-the-law/
Lawsuit: Racine refuses to turn over election documents https://empowerwisconsin.org/lawsuit-racine-refuses-to-turn-over-election-docs/
BREAKING – ‘WISCONSIN HOT’ – Grassroots Group Uncovers 23,000 Votes with Same Phone Number and 8,000 Voters Registered in 1918 All In One County! https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/now-wisconsin-hot-grassroots-group-uncovers-23000-votes-phone-number-8000-registered-1918-one-county/
Why they’re being subpoenaed https://wisconsinspotlight.com/why-theyre-being-subpoenaed/
‘DAMNING’ NEW EMAILS ON ZUCKERBUCKS SAGA https://wisconsinspotlight.com/damning-new-emails-on-zuckerbucks-saga/
Racine tests how much COVID power they have: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/30/racine-lawsuit-tests-how-much-power-local-officials-have-amid-covid-19/3284631001/
Fauci became the expert by Cornell: https://cornellsun.com/2020/03/23/how-dr-anthony-fauci-m-d-66-became-americas-most-trusted-disease-expert/
Racine and the Council for a Community of Democracies: https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Council_for_a_Community_of_Democracies
Mason Lab, Weill Cornell and experimental COVID testing in Racine: https://www.fox6now.com/news/new-covid-19-spit-test-being-studied-in-racine-may-bring-faster-results
Foxconn and connections with the Agenda and Referendum: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/special-reports/2018/04/06/foxconns-promised-jobs-boom-could-sputter-few-miles-away-racine/382026002/
Brad Smith, Microsoft and ElectionGuard are Trojan Horse for Military Industrial Complex Takeover of Elections: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/may/25/microsoft-s-electionguard-a-trojan-horse-for-a-military-industrial-takeover-of-us-elections/
Brad Smith and Microsoft using pro sports to control market innovation: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2017/10/19/the-green-bay-packers-and-microsoft-team-up-to-bring-the-worlds-innovations-and-tech-expertise-to-the-heart-of-wisconsin/
Brad Smith talks about COVID and digital 9/11: https://news.mit.edu/2020/microsoft-president-brad-smith-talks-data-covid-19-why-we-should-worry-about-digital-9-11-0521
Why Brad Smith is the global ambassador for big tech: https://time.com/5669537/brad-smith-microsoft-big-tech/
Brad Smith, Microsoft and ElectionGuard use Wisconsin as pilot: https://news.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2020/05/13/microsoft-electionguard-pilot-wisconsin/
The Road to Sustainable Development https://clintonwhitehouse4.archives.gov/PCSD/Publications/Snapshot.html#local
Towards a Sustainable America: https://www.globalurban.org/Towards_a_Sustainable_America.pdf
Destination: Zero Carbon https://environmentcalifornia.org/node/76921
Racine is Wisconsin's electric bus trendsetter. Here's why it is investing early in public transport's future https://journaltimes.com/news/local/racine-is-wisconsins-electric-bus-trendsetter-heres-why-it-is-investing-early-in-public-transports/article_fdcbdf44-f8bf-5a12-8049-300c81fedf68.html
Racine was named a 'smart city.' Here's what it's doing to start its transformation. https://www.jsonline.com/story/money/business/2019/08/08/smart-cities-how-racine-wisconsin-starting-its-transformation/1924825001/
Foxconn: Searching for a clear vision https://biztimes.com/foxconn-searching-for-a-clear-vision-2/
Mayor Mason and Foxconn Partner on Smart City Initiatives https://www.cityofracine.org/_Home/News/SmartCityInitiativesPartnership/
History of Racine and China Relations: https://archive.is/L3FTe
Racine, Climate Mayors and Paris Agreement http://www.thewheelerreport.com/wheeler_docs/files/0703mason.pdf
Several organizations were conceived here, among them: the National Endowment for the Arts, National Public Radio, the International Criminal Court and the Presidential Climate Action Plan https://www.johnsonfdn.org/aboutus/about-johnson-foundation-at-wingspread
Dr. Shoop, the original ‘Patent Medicine King’ started in Racine, Wisconsin http://racinepost.blogspot.com/2010/04/celebrating-175-years-dr-shoop-racines.html
Fred Gates was Rockefeller’s most trusted advisor after marrying his new wife in Racine, Wisconsin. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35101532/frederick-taylor-gates
Tony Fauci is connected with Cornell, Rockefeller, Gates, Rotary and Mason Lab. https://cornellsun.com/2020/03/23/how-dr-anthony-fauci-m-d-66-became-americas-most-trusted-disease-expert/
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The least I could do, thank you for the info!
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We have given the answers, and it is not a game. That is part of the reason for the questions. We need help to expose the Root, and we need others to dig into Racine.
Our comment history is full of answers, links and more information.
What questions do you specifically want answers to?
Yes...brilliant and critical point regarding USURY.
All of the financial controls (((they))) put into place MUST be eliminated.
The Fed
The IRS
I'm not worried because I know POTUS has a Plan and NCSWIC.
The only thing keeping me above ground
Amen fren! Be not afraid...
He whipped theirs asses. Made a whip and whipped em.
Ron Paul - End The Fed is a good read. Discusses most of this.
We are pretty much all debt slaves thanks to fed reserve
Agreed and sad it all went this way.
Wait til you find out where "money" they "lend" us to charge interest on come from. Rofl
I would say it comes from Uranus, but I guess it actually is Theiranus. Kek.
Us, it’s just gotta be us as in tax payers.
You mean from thin air?
Thank you for sticking, I wouldn’t have seen if not.
Usary is not the real issue. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of opportunities for abuse in charging interest on a loan, but that is not the real problem. The real problem is Fractional Reserve Lending and countries indebting themselves for huge amounts of money to private individuals.
Imagine if someone gave you money to hold on to and you then turned around and lent it out to someone else and charged them interest on SOMEONE ELSE'S money that you were holding for them.
Then imagine that that person, after taking the loan, and agreeing to the interest, then asked you to hold onto that money in your strong house with your guards and then you took that money and LOANED IT OUT AGAIN.
That repetitive loaning is the creation of money in the economy. Through the use of bank notes (IOUs that promise redemption in real money aka gold/silver) and checking account money (which is effectively the same thing as a bank note) there is a flood of money into the system, causing inflation (a devaluing of EVERYONE's money aka a hidden tax on savings) and altering the dynamics and values of the entire economy. In addition to being just bad practice, this also opens up the door for fuckery, through manipulation of the entire economics of the country (really the world).
Charging interest on a loan is not the problem (its not the BIG problem anyways). It is the creation and deletion of money through loans on money that doesn't exist until the loan is created, and the manipulation and control that it gives that is the real problem.
That doesn't touch on the REAL real problem, which was the creation of wars so that the countries involved in the war would want to borrow money at interest from the people who created the wars in the first place.
So its two problems. Fractional reserve lending and the creation of wars. Fractional reserve lending relies on interest to be productive, but the creation of wars, and indebting countries because of those wars does not. The leverage that exists from countries being indebted to you does not rely on any interest, but on the debt itself.
Yep. A more fundamental problem, anyway.
Actually, I believe it would make sense to arrange banking into accounts where depositors PAY to have their gold or whatnot safely stored [and NO LOANS or other monkey business allowed on these accounts] and speculative accounts where the account-holders accept some risk in return for possible returns, assuming again no monkey-business on those accounts either (such as lending the same money out multiple times at once).
That way you'd still have a robust credit market but without it ballooning into the nightmare we have today.
But that's an off-the-cuff idea, so I'd be happy to hear the downside (or the outright stupidity) of the suggestion from others.
I was thinking along the same lines. Two different types of accounts. A demand deposit account where there is a charge for holding the physical asset (a small rental charge) and one where the loan interest is shared, but is not a demand deposit account.
On the other hand, I was also thinking there could be a government holding site, and money (PMs) would be tied to crypto. This would allow for easy transactions, and easy withdrawal of real assets in the infrastructure that already exists (current banks which will be defunct). I haven't worked it all out yet, but somewhere in there is a solution.
No matter what, fractional reserves are the root of all fuckery and must be eliminated. Countries going into debt by accepting loans from external (or even internal) sources to go to war must also be against the law.
If there is a real reason to go to war, the country will go to war. If there isn't, we won't. No more "experts" telling us how much more trouble there will be if we don't go to war now. Tell people the whole truth, and let them decide (sans propaganda).
I have a feeling there won't be any more wars once there are no more bankers, so it may be moot anyways.
I think you're right: since bankers fund both sides of every war (they win no matter who comes out on top!), fractional reserve banking and ESPECIALLY central banks vomiting fiat are major drivers for war, constantly. Ending fractional reserve banking and central banks would likely eliminate most wars all by itself.
I'll suggest another root to consider, though; this one is even more strongly embedded in people's minds than the framework of today's corrupt banking system -- forcible government.
There COULD be, but everything government touches turns to shit -- because government is coercion, and psychopaths and schemers ALWAYS work to subvert and gain control of that coercion, and then pretty soon the Constitution's REQUIREMENT that the States use ONLY gold and silver as money (still there, in the document; never over-ridden by Amendment) and the outright prohibition of an income tax are gone, just GONE, and fiat currency and an income tax become the law of the land.
There is no way to make the Ring of Power safe.
(Frodo, desperately handing the Ring to Gandalf) Take it, Gandalf. Take it!
(Gandalf, backing away from the Ring) No, Frodo.
(Frodo) You must take it!
(Gandalf) You cannot offer me this Ring.
(Frodo) I'm giving it to you!
(Gandalf) Don't tempt me, Frodo! I dare not take it, not even to keep it safe. Understand, Frodo – I would use this Ring from a desire to do good . . . [long pause] . . . but through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine.
Link to an excellent book on providing "government" services of ALL types via civil society (i.e., the market): https://mises.org/library/market-liberty-1
Just so we are on the same page; the government doesn't control the Fed, the Fed controls the government. We the people (and our government) have zero say in our money supply.
Government controlling the money supply is not necessarily a bad thing, at least historically. Its when government hasn't controlled the money supply that the problems have happened. The constitution states explicitly that only the federal government could control the money supply. They did that because there were always people skimming off the top if the money supply wasn't strictly controlled. This ensured a stable trade platform across states. Historically, the Byzantine empire lasted longer than any other empire (nearly a thousand years) and was the trading hub of the world because the government strictly controlled the money supply and never allowed banks (or bankers) to do anything. This made the currency super stable, and everyone wanted to trade with the Byzantines (Eastern Roman Empire) for a millennia, until the bankers finally got in, then 200 years later the empire fell.
The fact that everything government touches turns to shit is because the government isn't in control of the country and the people aren't in control of their government.
We think of things in terms of how things have been since the bankers took over the United States (which was actually most of the time). We need to forget everything we think we know, because its all based on fraud and lies. Look to history to see what has worked. A federal government really only needs to do two things: control the money supply across all states, and provide the infrastructure for a common defense. Everything else can and should be taken care of by the states. That was how the original constitution was set up. We have deviated from that substantially, due to private bankers.
Government is a corrupt TOOL operating as the sole authorized user of initiated force against others. Anyone else initiating force against others is a criminal and dealt with as such.
So Of COURSE government gets taken over, subverted, corrupted, and used by psychopaths and gangsters. Example: The FDA is a government agency, but it is in fact an agent of Big Pharma.
EVERY government agency is used by non-government forces for their own (private) ends.
Without the get-out-of-jail-free card that government gives to itself for the USE OF INITIATED FORCE, there would be no reason for the Fed or any other group to subvert government for their own ends. The bad guys want that ability to use force to their own ends, and it is THAT commodity that draws psychopaths and gangsters like flies to offal.
I agree with you there. The "need" for government is one of those lies. That's my opinion after decades of thought and research, anyway. And I'm clear that few people agree. I'm not likely to see such a change in my lifetime. It's worth putting the idea out there, though, IMO, because every government becomes corrupted for reasons that seem obvious to me. We HAD a severely limited government in the United States, and NOW we have . . . the Biden Administration. There IS no way to prevent the corruption of a forcible government.
I'm not sure you are seeing the scope.
The Bankers own the world because they start the wars and then get governments to borrow money from them or die. Then they own the governments. The level of fuckery it took to take the U.S. government away from We The People was massive. It isn't some inevitability that we would lose control of government. It is only inevitable if there is a force of that nature trying to do so, and We The People are ignorant of that fact. Once we wake up to that fact, it won't be possible in the future. There also needs to be one other thing that ensures that:
Our constitution must make an explicit statement of citizen sovereignty. Both the DoI and the Constitution made implicit statements of citizen sovereignty. Because it was implicit, it got overwritten, starting with the Bill of Rights (fifth amendment/eminent domain). The Bill of Rights would have been redundant if the constitution had made explicit our sovereignty. That fuckery of omission was I think due to Alexander Hamilton or some other banker interest that was part of the founding.
Most of the things you think of as government agencies are actually private corporations that are government subcontractors, including the FDA. They were started (incorporated) by the Bankers and/or highjacked by them after the fact.
That "get out of jail free card" comes from the fact that the government declared itself sovereign and the people were not. Of course the government needs to be sovereign, it is after all a group of people. A group of people working towards a common goal should be just as sovereign as the people that make up that group. You shouldn't lose sovereignty by joining a group for a common goal. The problem is, it turned into a situation where the government was sovereign and the people were not (right after the fifth amendment as stated).
But you are still putting the cart before the horse. The bankers made a government that they could take over. They had their interests there at the founding. They corrupted the foundation of the government so they could take it over. That is not intrinsic in government, but in our government (and all other governments because the bankers founded them all).
The problem I think is what you think a government is. A government is a group of people working towards a common goal of ensuring the rights of all its citizens. It is founded upon a social contract that is opt in. It is made up of citizens, and thus is a body (corporation) with equal rights to the citizens that make it up. All that is required to make a government incorruptible is a clear declaration of equality between the government and the citizens (all sovereign, all equal under the law).
Every government becomes corrupted because the bankers have designed it that way. They have been doing it for thousands of years. They have been ruling from the shadows for that long. They also have controlled the narrative for that long, so people don't realize the truth of when they have had less control.
Then one can say "no" to it, and either go it alone or join a DIFFERENT group doing what needs to be done. Seriously, this would be meaningless if there weren't competition; competing "governments" that would surely make cooperative arrangements and so on. Without competition in ANY market place, you have shit.
I'm good with non-monopoly "government" that adheres to non-initiation of force. It's the ENFORCED MONOPOLY element of government combined with the legal ability to INITIATE force against people that makes government so evil, so corruptible, and so ripe for take-over by the banks AND by other groups.
I don't know of a single government set up the way you describe (do you?) but again, I'd be good with something called "government" that was an honest, non-coercive institution which people could support or not, without being hunted down and imprisoned for non-payment and non-compliance.
Hence Thos. Jefferson's famous opinions that all government is evil, at best a necessary one; and that people would periodically have to fight and die for their liberty again after it is stolen repeatedly from them by their corrupt government.
Makes me wonder...fast forward to the hazy sunrise of a new dawn, Q op is finished, Great Awakening has occurred, bad guys in prison or in hell, time to unveil our brand new shiny government...how the fuck do we populate it with anyone other than the same sort of narcissists, psychopaths, and sociopaths who are always attracted to the power that being in government confers? It's like there's something wrong, something deeply wrong with people who want to have power over others.
Boy, do you get it, CQVFEFE.
I have no answer to that other than to not put together a coercive center of power in the first place. Destroy the Ring of Power. We abandoned slavery despite the many false arguments against doing so; it's time we abandoned our slavery to the State.
This is called a safety deposit box, and they already exist.
With typical checking and savings accounts the bank isn't just storing your money, they are also usually paying a bit of interest and, this is often forgotten, providing you a service by making your money more accessible. It's not free for the bank to pay tellers, build ATMs or to process all your checks and debit card transactions, so they need a source of revenue to cover those costs which is typically the interest raised by loaning your money.
Good point on the safety deposit boxes.
On the cost to operate the bank: yes, that is one reason that I mentioned paying a fee for non-speculative accounts; that could also cover checking services and debit cards, for instance, so account holders could pay by mail for instance. I didn't mention that (or other possibilities) but you'd expect banks to off those services and people to want them.
Honestly the main problem with this is that the enormous proportion of the population is far more upset by a monthly fee on their checking account than they are by the idea, which they probably aren't even very familiar with, of fractional reserve lending with their account.
Yes! Some actual education is in order, and not just for THIS topic. A nation of mal-educated dimwits isn't going to be a free country for long.
I hate to say it, but a bit of education isn't going to change the fact that savings and loan banks, regulated by a central bank and helped by things like the FDIC, have made problems like bank runs unthinkable to the average American. The status quo is that a checking account which gets loaned out has basically zero risk from the consumer perspective and provides a lot of convenience; switching to a monthly fee while not appreciably changing the risk from the perspective of a typical consumer is a losing game.
Donald Trump Ron Paul 2024
Really? After what I witnessed if 20 isn't addressed there is no 24.
Trump said the same thing and included 2022.
CORRECT 2020!!
But we'll be accused of being Nazis if we abolish usury banking and kick the Rothschilds out of our central bank.
That's exactly how WW2 started.
WW2 was declared hours after Hitler banned usury banking and kicked the parasitic Rothschild central bankers out of both Germany and Austria.
The inevitible boom and bust cycle of usury is why (((lenders))) have been kicked out of 109 countries over the course of many centuries.
It turns out, that if your religious beliefs compel you to enslave people, its not “hateful bigotry” if your would-be slaves don’t go along with your plans.
And while we are are at, we need to abolish circumcision. Its an ancient religious custom, not unlike female genital mutilation, and it has no place in a modern liberal democracy. Nobody cares if your feelings are hurt, because you cant mutilate your kids genitals.
I agree that there's something super-fucked-up and Satanic about taking one of God's perfect newborn babies and mutilating them to normalize that horror to please one tribe who don't want women to laugh at their mangled dicks.
Holy moly, based beyond belief! Holy redpills!
Thats aNti SeMeTiC bRooo
Hitler the well-meaning victim
Great post, VaccinesCauseSIDS! -- and a very nice presentation. Yes, USURY is a massive and ancient problem. Thanks for posting this because most people don't seem to have considered this as the problem it is.
Still, I'd say it is ONE of the roots, but it's a root that only comes into play among ADULTS.
There is an even deeper and more important root. One that Christ spoke about, and with some feeling. (This comment is coming from a pede who is -- I guess I'd say, not a traditional Christian).
It has to do with children, because without mistreatment of children, none of the adults would be sick enough to do evil to others. "Offending" or mistreating CHILDREN was a crime that Jesus possibly considered worse than any other.
Here are two of the most famous exchanges in the Bible, with actual quotations from Jesus about children (yes, as reported long after the fact, possibly edited, and eventually translated into English [KJV in this case]):
Matthew: 18:1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Mark: 10:13: And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.
10:14: But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
10:15: Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
Below, two shorter quotations from Jesus that expand on the above without specifically mentioning children:
Luke: 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
John: 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
The deepest root of EVIL is the mistreatment of children. Without that, evil doesn't exist. Bad things can happen, but not evil. Evil is MALICE -- and a healthy, loving childhood is not fertile ground for malice.
HIGH ENERGY!!!!
While I 100% agree with what you are saying, sadly I don't ever see this world we live in currently being 100% free from evil acts. As long as sin, satan/Lucifer, and demons (satan's minions) exist... there will always be acts of evil. One could also argue that there have been human beings throughout history that had excellent lives as a child, and still grew up to commit horrific acts. Satan/Lucifer/Demons can attack anyone at anytime, including individuals that had a good child-life, free from abuse. Which is why it is so important to constantly be praying with our children before they go to sleep, anointing them, and praying for them daily. Even when they become adults and go into the world, we must pray pray pray.
And while I agree that we should be doing everything we can to eliminate child abuse here on Earth, I just don't see it being possible as long as sin exists. And we know that sin will never cease to exist until Jesus comes back for us and we enter his eternal kingdom of peace & perfection.
You are probably right, and my assertion too abbreviated. It would have been more accurate to say that the more emotional health we have, the fewer damaged people we will have seeking power over others or willing to cede power TO others. With enough healthy people, it would be impossible for tyranny to take hold or remain in place, and the number of those committing crimes against others or even just being unpleasant for no good reason to others will drop dramatically.
The difference between that and today would be very dramatic. Jesus does not get nearly enough credit for his prescription of how to end (or nearly end) evil in this world: Better, more compassionate treatment of children, society-wide.
AMEN!
“Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves.”
Abolish any and all cabal institutions: Federal Reserve, IRS, Stock Market, banking, credit cards, most kinds of taxes (wouldn't need most if government saved more than spending wastefully) - I'm sure I'm leaving a few out. Rethink the financial system - the people wouldn't need all of these different systems if we had Sound Money, as all of those systems are hidden chains, designed to keep people down.
"Save, America"
Pay cash for everything.
Not just pretty words.
Exactly. When you pay in cash you tend to be more disciplined about how you spend it.
"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who writes the laws" - Mayer Amschel Rothschild
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Usury is sin
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Bang on.
PS. A good read on this topic is The 1919 book: Manifesto For The Abolition Of Interest Slavery by Gottfried Feder (https://www.nationalists.org/pdf/hitler/manifesto-for-abolition-enslavement-interest-on-money-gottfried-feder.pdf). Ever wonder how Hitler turned a poverty stricken, DEAD BROKE country into a global superpower with the strength to take on the world in less than a decade? That's the power of abolishing usury. Its like ridding the body of parasites.. You finally realize how strong you were meant to be. I mean I don't think Hitler was a great guy by any means but he definitely figured out how to turn around an economy. The whole world was in depression and Hitlers Germany was booming. The secret is he abolished Usury! Usury keeps mankind down. Centralized banking and usury are how they keep us enslaved. That was ultimately his greatest "sin". Thats why he is touted as ultimate evil by our media and education system for all eternity now. They drill that shit into us from birth. Can't have the people see how he almost freed his people from the centralized banking system.
Greta post, fren and so true! They maintain control and power by controlling the money. It needs to be replaced as well.
Also, regarding income taxes. They're so unjust! Trading hours for money is not a gain. They call it that but it isn't. A gain is something like a bonus, inheritance, winning the lotto. But trading your hours for money is not a gain. That money is an agreement between you and your employer. It's a trade of your expertise and time for money. You're losing something for something. Not a gain and it's the biggest scam out there.
People rioted in the streets when the income tax was passed in 1913. And it was only 1 - 6% at the time! We have endured this travesty for far too long
Agreed!!!
True. You aren't really required, even by the tax code, to pay income tax on labor, since it's an even trade. But the code is INTERPRETED to mean everyone needs to pay a fourth to a third of their hard-earned money to a govt that sees them as nothing but a slave.
Usury is one of greatest tool to enslave man into a wage slave. The system is broken as schools and pop culture do little to teach frugality and debt avoidance and does a lot to entice people to live outside of their means. Our whole society it built to entrap people in debt, from weddings, college tuition, automobiles/transportation, housing, vacations, gambling, medical expenses and even every day vices like coffee cigarettes drugs ect. We are in the predatory economic system that drives people into years worth of debt for a basic lifestyle.
It was designed to be this way to lead into debt and that should make you angry. The government has become corrupt and created a dual system. This is why we have to big to fail banks and lawyers, government officials and others that get a mere slap on the wrist if rewarded with bailouts or promotions when they do devastating crimes that cause real harm when at the same time those they are against get the full weight of every regulation and obscure law and get put out of business by huge fines for mere problems with the redtape of bureaucracy. They have picked the winners and losers and don't think for a second the deepstate cabal is not working behind the scenes to make sure the companies they control win and the competition fail.
The game is rigged so they can control you. They control you from cradle to grave. They own the businesses that feed you, cloth you, educate you, entertain you, they hold your method to buy things and the even control thoughts through propaganda of MSM and social media.
And what is the quality of life they deliver. Wage slavary.
Sure you can be happy despite the oppressive system with family and friends. But they even are trying to take that away through medical lockdowns and by breaking up the traditional family.
It doesn't have to be this way. The system could be set up to enrich the life of the common man instead of trying to enslave the world to make a few rich.
I believe that Trump was working for this economic freedom and that is why covid happened. They had to shut the prosperity and fair economy down else they would of lost so much power as people would remove the shackles of wage slavery and not have the burden of debt around thier neck every day.
And now the deepstate are in seemingly in control and the wealth has been piled into the hands of a few like it never has been before they want to destroy the ladders that allow people to climb into prosperity by crashing the system with the great reset and rewriting the rules. I believe wage slavery will not be enough after the reset. It will be plain slavery as they will own everything and only allow you to be in the economy if you submit. The lie they will push is you will own nothing and be happy. This is a complete communism take over they are attempting.
The collapse will happen. It is easier to destroy then to build and the deepstate has a can of gasoline and a handful of matches ready to blow up the system. It is already happening with the China real estate collapse as soon to be here with a great economic collapse here in America.
I believe that is what we are waiting for with Q. It is to late to save our current economy and government with the debt and corruption and so we are on an accelerated path for the reset.
And Q has everything in place so that when everything inevitably fails it will be easier to smoothly transition to a system that serves you.
That is the only thing I think of when I hear "The best is yet to come"
Bang on. Brilliant summation.
i thought usery was charging excessive interest. i have to admit, i dont see anything wrong with charging a reasonable, small amount of interest to offset risk.
Low/zero interest offers by credit card companies defers interest until the fine print kicks in with 14%-25% and by then one can be hopelessly maxed out.. Wicked business, usury...
There is a particular ethnicity that invented it. Guess who. "Israel For Last"
https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/23-19.htm
https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/23-20.htm
SUPER BASED
If you remove interest, then you remove borrowing except for out of the goodness of the lender's heart. There would be no such thing as 30 year mortgages or even 10 year mortgages. People would have to save up before they could own a thing and no longer increase their lifestyle before they had earned the money for it. This would be great for a person to do, but not many do. I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just that everything would have to change.
I have saved massive amounts of money by not borrowing and not using insurance. Now I make money by renting and financing property. I suppose that makes me an evil sinner, but 100% of the people I finance would not be able to own property or even rent a place without someone like me - as things are now.
Obviously it would be stupid for me to loan money at no interest because 25 to 30% of people never fully pay their loans off. Also, If I loaned 25,000 for 10 years at no interest, then I get back 25,000 over 10 years but it's only worth 15,000. Why would anyone do that?
There's a lot more to it, but that is just a bit of it from the evil side.
Yeah, I’m fascinated by OP’s proposal, but obviously have more of a ‘this-world’ mindset about how traditional loans and things work. Hard to imagine a world without any debt.
Been saying this for decades. Until the sheep realize how much we've all been robbed and played.... this ultra taxation will just keep the foundations of their corruption. Tear the whole f_cking thing down. Obliterate them like they're trying to do to us now. Actually very simple.
That is a fantastic / brilliant post. 🙂
Lending money for interest is not usury. Usury is lending money at an exorbitant rate. Societies that forbid lending money for interest either find loopholes or stay stagnant.
Lending money for reasonable rates of interest allows people to buy homes, start businesses, make investments, and do other things it might take them decades to save for, by which time their opportunities would have passed. Yes, wealth is derived from labor, but there are billions of available laborers and the contributions of most unskilled workers don't command high wages.
No one is going to go into the business of lending money at 0% interest. It costs lenders money to lend money. They have to manage their business and assess risk. They risk losing their money and (assuming they're not allowed to print money at will) they lose the use of their money while it is lent to someone else.
Reasonable interest rates allow people without a lot of money to invest in assets that may ultimately make them money. You may pay 4% interest on your home loan. During the years you pay your mortgage, you can enjoy the use and control of your home. If the value of your home goes up during those years, you will make a profit when you sell it.
If you had been unable to get a loan, you might have had to save for 20-30 years to buy the home. If the value of that home went up during that time, you might have had to save for another 10 to be able to afford it. During that time, you'd have been paying rent, a more expensive proposition than a 4% mortgage payment.
Yes, there's another post above about how the real problem is fractional reserve banking, which makes more sense. OP is conflating that with usury.
Obviously usury is also bad, and its evils are compounded today by the fact that currency has been intentionally manipulated to create debt and drive people into it, coupled with non-enforcement of both usury and antitrust laws and removing much of the protection that bankruptcy had provided.
Great post. And I too saw that Jesus warned against it.
Yessss. I argued cap at 3% for everything including credit cards. Capping interest rates and lowering income tax would literally return half of the average persons paycheck. We know the wealthy aren't paying taxes
"We buy wars on credit" could be expanded to "We buy wars on credit from the only people that benefit from the wars."
Usury used to be a crime in the Catholic daith. The the popes started to do it.
This is an excellent avenue to end the banking and taxation systems as we know them.
TIME TO FLIP TABLES AND WHIP ASSES!
Hear hear, brother!
What incentive is there to loan money unless if there's at least a small amount of interest on the loan? I can understand wanting to abolish this though, but I feel that there will be no one loaning money anymore except for between friends.
What if we just choose not to participate in usury?
People who pay usury are either desperate or ignorant, or both.
NC still has a limit on interest rates. Most states do. That's why so many credit card companies are based in Delaware.
BTW, in the parable of the talents, Jesus seems to be implying that the steward who invested at interest was better than the one who didn't.
Money has time value. If there were no interest, there would be no reason for investments in capital for large projects. We would have no large buildings or anything else like that. We would all be living in huts and scraping for survival.
You would make it so if someone loaned money to someone else and lost use of that money for a time, they could get reimbursed for that loss. If you can buy and sell goods to make a living, but you loan the money to someone else, you would unable to make your living.
Without interest, I have no reason to keep any money in the bank. I am better off spending it.
Yes, there are things that should be illegal, but a fair rate of return on your money isn't one of them.
Banks have become the new temples of faith-we pray for a car loan, a low interest home loan or a low interest re-fi to fix up the basement. When turned down, we are devastated and question our faith.. control at any price..
Actually, the root of all evil is the Love of money, love of money causes usury, usury is a tool of the lovers of lmoney..
Tax Protesting is a fundamental right. That's what the founders understood. Consent means you pay your tax bill. If people don't pay, that's how a government knows it doesn't have your consent.
Tithe is voluntary, and yet churches thrive in American.
I believe taxes ought to be voluntary too. I bet the war in afghanistan wouldn’t have lasted 20 years if the US tax payers had a choice in funding it or not.
Usury is a term I've often found in Marxist writings and on Marxist platforms and while I'm not a fan of the 16th Amendment levying taxes on "workers" (a term likewise found in Marxist diatribes) I am a fan of good old fashion "capitalism"... exchanging money for goods and services.. something which some like to label "usury".. so while the anti tax and anti IRS portions of this I agree with.. I have to use discernment and say maybe not all on this site post stuff that doesn't have the taint of subversion.. the bait and switch of this argument is prolific...
Back in the 70's there was a cap on the interest rate that the credit cards could charge. Even when the interest rate was 18%, the usary cap was 21%. Now they can charge 38% when the interest rate is only 3%. It is criminal!
It's really disappointing how there's like a hundred comments and no one understands basic economics like opportunity cost. Radical Bolshevik shit in here
For us dumb desperate Americans...
Thanks for this post. Fascinating.
Someone put a flyer for payday loans in the “junk mail” slot at my apartment building. If you read the tiny print at the bottom on the back, it is 270 PERCENT INTEREST. If that isn’t usury, I don’t know what is. Disgusting.
Nice post.
"Some of you don’t remember, but back in 2008 there was a HUGE banking crisis"
I honestly feel a lot of the sheep really have gone back to sleep on this one. I guess that's the problem, short term memory and lack of will.
Shortly after the collapse, the trading of CDOs and tranches commenced under a slightly different name, and WILL result in scenarios as portrayed in Margin Call and The Big Short.. The big boys never lose, the politicians will back them up with tax moneys provided by the working class.
How shall we create our alternate parallel economy without the evils of usury or fiat crap (like fractional reserve lending) that us dumb desperate Americans can participate in honestly with INTEGRITY?
We have discovered our election system doesn't have INTEGRITY.
We have discovered our medical system doesn't have INTEGRITY.
We have discovered our judicial system doesn't have INTEGRITY.
We have discovered our monetary system doesn't have INTEGRITY.