Veganism in a nutshell
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Spot on with the "show me the studies" thing. I tell them do your own homework I'm not here to spoon feed you!
only thing you missed is the vegan initiating the conversation with a declaration of their own virtuosity for being "a vegan"
Veganism is anti-human. We are not meant to be vegans. There is not, and never has been a culture that eats a vegan diet. Never. That should tell you something about how important it is to eat animal foods. Dairy, meat, eggs. All good for you. Maybe some people have trouble with milk, but most of us can handle milk and milk products. But that is not enough to promote veganism. It is early death. It is not good. It promotes poor mental health. Don't do it, and especially, don't let your children eat vegan. They need the vitamins and minerals and fats found in animal products. You and not your children, are in charge of the family diet!!
I hear people who cant handle milk can actually handle raw milk. Its the processing that kills the good bacteria that helps us digest it that makes people lactose intolerant. Sometimes. Some people just cant have it period.
I heard that goat milk is good for people that are lactose intolerant.
Can confirm. Bought a couple gallons of raw milk from the amish recently and my digestion has been great with it. Not to mention it tastes great.
Oh nice! One of my next family outtings I plan on taking the fam to a small dairy farm that sells all sorts of unpasteurized goods. Im excited to try it.
anecdotal evidence, but I'm lactose intolerant.
I can drink it, but everyone around me suffers...😂
TECHNICALLY you could eat a vegan diet and be perfectly healthy, BUT it is an extremely difficult thing to do. Which is why most of these vegans all look like sickly ghouls.
There's a reason most herbivorous animals have multiple stomachs, they get far more out of the greens then we do.
You have to eat a shitload of greens and a very diverse variety to get everything your body needs. Whereas animal meat and products are far more nutrient dense because the animal has already done all the work.
No, technically you cannot. Vegans claim that by combining different plant foods, they can get all of the essential amino acids that the human body needs. While it is true that all plant foods are deficient in one or more essential amino acids, and by combining the plant foods, there will be all the essentail amino acids from the variety of foods, it is not true that this is healthy.
The amino acids in plant foods are in the wrong proportions, and are not well-absorbed (bioavailable) by the human body. Therefore, there will still be deficiencies.
Animal foods include all the essential amino acids, in the correct proportions, and in a highly bioavailable form for humans. Plants have none of these characteristics.
Plus, plant foods are deficient in vitamins and minerals, compared to animal foods, and plants also include anti-nutrients which block absorbtion of key micronutrients, while animal foods do not.
Just no comparison, if we are talking about what is best for human health.
Why do you think Bill Gates and the other gouls want everyone to eat plant foods? For their health? Hahahahahaha.
Yes, but most people do not understand HOW it works.
Ruminant animals, such as cattle, have multiple chambers in their stomach (not multiple stomachs). These chambers serve different purposes for digestion.
The first chamber has trillions of bacteria. Bacteria are the ONLY thing on planet Earth that can digest cellulose/fiber. Humans have ZERO bacteria in our stomach. Our digestive bacteria are in our colon -- at the END of the digestive system (to clear out the trash that is not supposed to be there in our diet).
Ruminants have the bacteria in the first chamber so that the bacteria can digest the grass (cellulose). Then, the animal reguritates it back up to the mouth to "chew their cud." Then, it goes back down for more bacteria digestion. This back-and-forth process happens all day long, which is why cattle are always chewing.
They can chew the same grass 200 times, before the liquid that the bacteria leave behind goes on to the next chamber of the stomach. Eventually, this liquid is converted into fatty acids, which is what the animal lives on. Even though cattle eat grass, they do not get their energy from carbohydrates. They get it from fatty acids that are derived from the digestion process.
They also get protein from the various bugs they ingest along with the grass.
Thank you, explained it better than I did, tried to make the same point.
Vegan diet bad, meat good lol
Yes, these points should be emphasized when talking with vegans. Some vegans also think it is a healthier way to eat, so we should be versed on the falsehood of those claims, as well.
Vegan-oriented books and websites LIE to promote their religion, which is why most vegans are ignorant about the counter-points that we are discussing here.
If they became aware, some of them would drop the religion, while others will follow their cult off a cliff. So be it, just don't drag the rest of us, too!
multi-compartment stomachs, but yes.
even then, though, they'll take meat when they can get it...
Ruminants don't eat meat (other than the bugs in the grass), just like cats won't eat salad.
I'm not saying it's a primary part of their diet, but it's not as uncommon as you'd think, lol.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2981039/Bambi-gone-bad-Deer-eat-CHICKS-protein-hit-snatching-nests.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3NOhQlPGAU
Correct. Veganism started around 100 years ago by a monastery of monks. The leaders noticed that eliminating meat from the diet made the males less interested in sex, which is what they wanted in a monastery. Kellogg would later learn about this, and implement veganism into his religious cult because he thought that all sex was a sin. Kellogg was a really weird mofo.
Milk has a sugar, called lactose. When we are born, we have an enzyme in our body called lactase. Lactase is the enzyme needed to break down the sugar lactose.
Raw milk includes lactase in it, but the pasteurization process kills the lactase.
As adults, some people lose the lactase enzyme, while others retain it. This is why the "lactose intolerant" people have a hard time digesting pasteurized milk in the stores. They don't have the lactase enzyme in their body, and the pasteurization process has killed off the lactase that was in the raw milk.
But they can ususally drink raw milk. They might have to start with a very small amount and work their way up to larger amounts, but they should be able to digest raw milk.
Not saying you're wrong, but we had a different diet before we started killing and eating animals. There was a human "diet" before animals.
The human diet was ALWAYS about eating animals.
There was a time before we ate animals though. That's what I'm talking about.
No, there was never a time when humans (homo sapien sapien) did not eat animals.
God made us vegan….there was no death so therefore no meat. The fall changed that. Downvoters can argue with God about thiis.
Edit: Gen 1:29 God said, “See, I give you every seed-bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food. 1:30 And to all the animals on land, to all the birds of the sky, and to everything that creeps on earth, in which there is the breath of life, [I give] all the green grasses for food.” And it was so.
How am I in error exactly?
This is absolutely not supported by the biblical text. In fact God created predator - prey relationships in the very beginning as part of the GOODNESS of creation.
Psalm 104:20-28
https://reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/animal-death-before-the-fall-what-does-the-bible-say
Also you need to check your theological hubris on debatable matters. "you can argue with God about this" LOL, well that makes for open discussion doesn't it?
Your problem is that you assume because the Genesis 2-3 text narrows in on consuming the trees of the garden, that therefore that's all that was given to be eaten. Logical fallacy. Clearly the reaon for the focus on vegation is because that is where the specific prohibition was categorized: do not eat of a tree rather than say a species of animal.
Also Adam was given dominion to name the animals under his authority, both livestock and wild animals. As if mankind who by design is an omnivore, with a big brain requiring the nutritional contents of muscle meats, organ meats, fats, etc was intended to only stare at the beauty and song of those fatty meat beasts walking around on all fours. Right.
Gen 1:29 God said, “See, I give you every seed-bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food. 1:30 And to all the animals on land, to all the birds of the sky, and to everything that creeps on earth, in which there is the breath of life, [I give] all the green grasses for food.” And it was so.
I don’t see my error.
B-b-but the teevee man sez cholesterol and saturated fat are BaD FoR mE!
The cholesterol thing might be why these people struggling with critical thinking. Depriving your brain of cholesterol is a bad thing
Fat is vital for the protective myelin sheath around our nerve cells. Our nerves literally decay without a healthy amount of fat and protein in our diets.
isn't cholesterol also linked to testosterone production?
Yep, which explains the soy boys. Although there is some protein in soy (a lot for a plant food, which is to say not much), only about 5% of it is bioavailable to humans.
Eggs, OTOH, have protein that is 98% bioavailable, and meat is 90%+ bioavailable. All animal foods contain cholesterol, and no plant foods do.
I'm not against soy in small doses (tofu is pretty good as a compliment to meat, actually. also try freezing it before adding to stir-fry. it has an almost completely different texture), but i could never give up meat willingly...
Yes ... and there are evil people who want to take away that option.
sadly true...
oh well, guess I'll just have to eat them instead... in minecraft of course...
Our hormones are manufactured from cholesterol. A low good cholesterol level is very bad for you.
Cholesterol also serves a vital function in plugging lesions in the endothelial lining of the blood vessels. Lesions are often caused by the spiky projections on molecules such as glucose and insulin, which rip microscopic holes in the endothelium. When cholesterol plugs them, it's being the GOOD guy, not the bad guy.
Trying to lower serum cholesterol (a fruitless exercise, as every cell in the body makes more if you suppress it with statins) is like blaming the firemen for the fire just because whenever you see a fire you also see firemen.
The comedian Jerry Clower once said that you were born with cholesterol, and you couldn't really change it. I've never had high cholesterol, no matter what I've eaten.
Went vegan for a while, enlisted in the Army during that time. Got injured during basic, pushed through for as long as I could, got medboarded in just under 3 years. Was irritable, weak, had no stamina, and always tired. Came across the NWO diet(aka vegan diet), realized what a tool I was. Discovered carnivore diet, fast forward about 3 years, now I am much stronger, have a lot more energy, sleep better, mentally stable, ect ect. HOWEVER, I still have some pretty bad digestive issues, low or possible no bile production, and suffering GERD pretty badly.
Moral of this story - Don't do a vegan diet
Apple Cider vinegar for GERD. Make your stomach more acidic.Avoid carbs.
Keto will relieve GERD almost immediately, as will the the total abstinence from all grains.
Now I am all for remaining in a ketogenic state. That being said my uncle went full vegan style organic diet when he was diagnosed with cancer. Him growing, and getting fresh veggies, and making sure proteins came from veggies helped him naturally defeat the cancer. It is un detectable as of now. He did however lose some skeletal, and skeletal muscular mass. But was that from the cancer? Or the veggies? I suspect both. But the power of eating clean is important. And depending where you are geographically, that sometimes means veggies only. Especially if you do not hunt your own meats.
According to "The Perfect Health Diet" by Paul Jaminet, disease is caused by invaders: bacteria, fungus, virus, parasites, etc These things enter our bodies and may make us initially sick, but when we get get over the illness (or never had one) the invaders still live in our bodies. They find places to take up residence. Which of these species thrives, where they live within our bodies and what disease they cause are tied to genetic propensity and diet. Radically changing your diet usually means no longer eating whatever food it was that your invader thrived on, thus the invader is wiped out from lack of food from you. So while a particular diet may have wiped out the cancer, it is not necessarily sustainable for the long term (meaning many years).
I think cutting the processed foods killed the cancer for him. Meats are processed also from grocery markets. Hormone injected and all that. As I said depending where you are, veggies is best for homeopathic organic diet for medical needs. Because you can control everything. Meats it's a gamble, what if the meat you are eating had early stages of cancer and thats what caused it in us?? Not saying this is the case, just proposing a thought :D I would ideally do poultry and goat milk and cheeses in my diet. But he worked with what he had. He is now using organic goat cheese he gets from a local farmer though. He is slowly adding things back to his diet.
The reality is we need way less protein than most Americans eat. We need just a little bit of meat/fish per week and a little more other animal proteins (ie eggs, cheese) in order to get all the essential nutrients that come from solely animal products. I agree with you that Americans are killing ourselves with big quantities of animal products, particularly because we know toxins have been injected in them. Veggies should absolutely be the primary food in people's diet!
I completely disagree. Protein provides satiety. If people felt full they would eat less filler which in America equates to sugar. Veggies are the main carriers of e. Coli and other pathogens. Veggies are difficult to digest and the nutrients are not easily assimilated. Which is why vegans are either fat from all the sugar (fruit and grains= carbs)or they look like holocaust victims. Americans need to eat less. To do that they must feel full. Proteins from animals is the only thing that does that. Given my age and my height/ weight ratio. I am in perfect shape. I see a lot of overweight people that limit their meat. What kind of shape are you in? 10 lbs overweight is still overweight.
Most veggies should be cooked to kill bad organisms and to make food easier to digest.
Fat makes you feel full. Fat also adds tremendous flavor to foods. But since fat, which in its natural form is an essential nutrient (not these vegetable oils that are an unnatural, factory made form of fat) is demonized, many Americans substitute will sugar for fat to make up for the lack of flavor.
I eat a protein limited diet. Most of the foods I make are foods with a lot of veggies and a little meat or fish, like casseroles and stir Frys. Here is a picture of me. You tell me if you think I'm fat: https://gwsandiego.net/blog/.
Kidneys do not like protein. Just as the low fat/high carb craze of the 90s caused a massive diabetes epidemic in the aughts, so the current high protein craze will cause a kidney disease epidemic in the next decade. Mark my words.
I wanted to add one more thing. According to "The Perfect Health Diet" by Paul Jaminet, the reason Americans are fat is because we eat a lot of polyunsaturated fats (ie corn oil, canola oil). Your body is made up of saturated fat, so when you eat saturated fat, your body knows exactly what to do with it and the body easily eliminates it. Polyunsaturated fat is an unnatural fat and the body doesn't know what to do with it, so it stores the fat. This is a very interesting article about how Crisco infiltrated the American Medical Association and got them to endorse their vegetable oils, despite them being unsafe: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486
Most likely, he switched from a junk food diet (one of the main causes of cancer) to a cleaner (less or no junk food) diet.
If he ate only veggies, then that is a form of fasting, which is good for beating disease, but not for long-term health maintenance. Such a diet will cause a loss of lean body mass, like it did with your uncle, so it is not a good long-term strategy. But if a person is facing death, it is better than continuing a bad diet.
I suspect that pure fasting, with intermittent eating of clean animal foods periodically to maintain lean body mass, would be far superior for beating cancer and all other illnesses, but nobody is doing any studies on that (yet).
Vitamin B17 which is found in produce mainly the seeds helps fight cancer. (A book called A world without Cancer gets into this)
Asian and other countries use B17 to fight cancer yet it's illegal in the US, and it's been demonized.
The increase in produce may have helped greatly, could have kept the meat in the diet.
As we've learned lots of food is designed to keep us sick.
“Clean eating” is relative. There is no demonstrable standard that legitimizes or defines it. It is considered a ‘fad diet’. Also, it is a food virtue for narcissists.
The work of dentist Weston a price is super interesting on this topic.
He visited native and traditional peoples all around the world, to investigate why they all had such amazingly healthy teeth and bodies. Whereas civilized folk all had (and still have) crooked teeth and diseased bodies.
He found they all ate at least 4 times the minerals and water-soluable vitamins, and at least 10 times the fat soluble vitamins.
In short, they didn't eat any processed food (which has anti-nutrients) and ate lots of animal foods, especially organ meats, bone marrow, and fats. these all being the most nutrient dense foods in the planet.
They would make sure to give extra fat, organs, and bone marrow to young couples, pregnant and breastfeeding mothers, and young babies, so that they make strong generations of people.
These are some of the healthiest foods any human can eat -- and yet, are also some of the hardest to acquire.
Gee ... I wonder why.
...well i'm out on that one... If I wanna eat fish bait, I'll get some crawdads...
oddly enough, I like bone marrow, especially the salty stuff...
can't do hard chunks of fat or cartilage, my gag reflex kicks in, hard.
If a person is concerned about these things, they should NEVER be a vegan. That diet is the MOST harmful to the environment.
It is also true that the vegan diet kills far more animals than a carnivore diet, due to the killing of field mice and other small animals in the harvesting process.
If you want to have some fun, bring up the fact that more animals are killed by a vegan diet than a carnovore diet, and then sit back and watch them squirm as they try to justify that "those animals don't count." LOL.
Quality maymay
Aside from proper diet, intermittent fasting will be important going forward
Hip? New? It was always lame and cheeky and has existed almost as long as the word itself. You just (almost) never hear people say it cause it's a lame joke. kek
Agreed.
Was watching a reaction video of a preachy vegan called Joey Carbstrong (or whatever the fuck), and the dude's skin is fucking yellow (like liver failure yellow), which is a first because usually their skin is grey.
I've seen a few who have that sallow look. "Mic the Vegan" is another one who does videos about the benefits of being vegan and uses a lot of scientific studies to back up his claims, but he always looks sick and a tad yellow to me.
Eating a lot of fruit will cause fatty liver disease.
Before this was figure out, doctors would call patients liars if they had fatty liver diseaase and claimed they never drank alcohol. It was thought that only drinking alcohol could destroy the liver, but fruit turns into alcohol, which must be processed by the liver, and causes disease if done in large quantities.
Sounds like the dude that OD'd on Vit A from carrot juice.
supposedly, if you eat a fuckton of carrots, the extra beta carotene acts as a natural sunscreen, though it can turn you skin orange...
maybe GEOTUS is a bug bunny fan? lmao.
Don't worry vegans all of those things can be $upplimented.
...it's funny how the vegan attitude on processed foods has changed over time, isn't it?
and what that doesn't show is how absolutely fucking dull as dishwater they are, dreary, miserable toxic drains on any room they are in.
Bulls get pretty massive on a vegan diet.
Bulls also have the correct stomach for digesting what they eat, humans don't. Humans digest by enzymes.
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Bulls and cows have 4 "stomachs". The first break down the grass they eat into food for the micro-organisms contained in another stomach to eat, grow and thrive on. The fourth stomach kills those microorganisms, the remnants of which functions as the sustenance for cows. Put another way: cows are 100% carnivorous... the human digestive tract is completely different.
"Show me the studies!"
Sheep need to be fed information.
Wolves hunt for it.
Having deficiencies wrecks your body. Like liver disease and altzhimers. A lot of people dont know that. I can't find it now, because NWO and Google want to promote this. But pretty certain there is a vegan specific alhimerzs disease Ive come accross through medical coding.
Acording to Google, veganism is a cure all perfect diet with 0 consequences. Lol
Vegans either stop being vegans, or die committed to the cause.
He looks like Canadian transport minister Omar Alghabra.
Show me the studies
Vegan diet lacks saturated fat? Clearly inaccurate. Makes me wonder about the authenticity of the rest of the list. How can vegans be lacking in vitamin D, given that the main source is not dietary (D is synthesised by the body during exposure to sunlight.)
Could be even worse, people could eat a standard Western diet - plenty of crap lacking just about everything nutritious. A leading cause of Fatass Syndrome.
The rest of the list is semi accurate
Problem is most of these types mean an excess of red meat and come off like Liver King on YouTube
Their metrics are aesthetics and PRs not longevity or aging
B12 is created by the body via intrinsic factor, which only comes to play by eating meat.
B12 is extremely important for the body. Vegans can only get it via outside injection or sublingually.
Nutritional yeast, which is used as a cheese substitute, contains B12.
Most Americans in general are D3 deficient.
Your body creates its own cholesterol. Outside foods have little influence on your body's cholesterol levels. If you eat too much cholesterol, you poop out the excess. High/low cholesterol numbers are a symptom indicating something is wrong within your body. Sadly, most doctors will give people with high cholesterol a statin to artificially lower numbers, and thus mask the underlying problem. This allows the underlying problem to worsen and it usually doesn't get caught until it is so bad that you need expensive medical care. Had the doctor figured out the underlying issue in the first place, it could have probably been fixed with supplements.
Yes.
No.
True, vitamin D is a hormone (not a vitamin) that is made by the human body, in the skin, when sunlight activates cholesterol to produce the vitamin D.
But there is also vitamin D2 and vitamin D3. These are from plants (D2) and animals (D3). Since plants function on minerals, not vitamins, D2 is a fake vitamin, which has a molecular structure similar to D3.
D3 comes from animals, because the sun does the same to them as to humans. So, they accumulate vitamin D in their bodies, which we call D3 to distinquish it from our own vitamin D (which, again, is a hormon and not a vitamin).
D3 is found in most or all animal foods, but is not as good as getting real D from the sun. Also, any food in the store that says it is "fortified vitamin D" (and vitamin A) is NOT real vitamin D3 (or D or D2, for that matter).
It is a chemical made from oil, which has a "molecular structure similar to vitamin D," and therefore, due to Big Agriculture having control of Congress and the USDA, have been able to claim is vitamin D for advertising purposes, without being prosecuted for fraud. But it IS fraud.
The pasteurization process kills A and D3, so they inject the product with these chemicals, and claim it has these nutrients, when in fact it does not.
Which vegetables contain saturated fats outside of coconut or palm? And vitamin D metabolism is hampered by wheat consumption. Even the Vit D from sunshine isn’t used well in wheat’s presence.
Vegans are fucking retarded. Children forced onto vegan diets have literally died, and they continue to say eating only plants is safe, and healthy.
Keto Carnivore all day babyyy
I have always maintained a stance that veganism is a mental illness.
Personally, I don't give a shit what other people eat.
“You are the study.”
I went vegan for 6 months for health reasons and did just fine, but it required a lot of variety and a lot of research.
As far as the graphic goes-
Hummus is made of chickpeas and has plenty of B6.
Sweet potatoes and carrots cover Vitamin A needs.
Vitamin K2 is found in fermented foods in high concentrations. Natto, miso, sauerkraut, kimchi, and tempeh provide all one needs.
Almonds, walnuts, flax, pumpkin and chia seeds are all good sources of Vitamin F. I used to make a homemade pecan/almond/walnut butter which I added to pasta sauces and soups.
CLA can be obtained from sunflower or safflower oil.
Your body can create carnitine, carnosine, taurine, and other amino acids, just like the animals most people obtain them from.
CoQ10 is in olive oil, and many seeds and nuts.
Vegans who don't eat nuts and seeds will definitely have problems meeting their needs for many nutrients.
I love steak and chicken and eat it again, but largely eliminated processed foods and replaced with vegetables. I'm no longer a pre-diabetic and am glad I went vegan short term.
Edit- I still eat lots of vegetables along with eggs, cheese, and 3-5 servings of beef/chicken each week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-4-gLlF0uw Hold the door for me.
I totally missed those...Thanks.
Left this one: I could tell you a joke about COVID...But there's a 99.9% chance you won't get it.
Carrots (and sweet potatos) contain exactly ZERO micrograms of vitamin A.
There is NO vitamin A in ANY plant food. Period.
What carrots have is Beta Carotine, which is NOT vitamin A. It is a vitamin A precursor, which means that SOME people can convert SOME of it to vitamin A, but it is a very inefficient process.
At most, a person will convert about 2-3% to real vitamin A that the body can utilize, and some people will convert 0%.
Why bother, when all animal foods have REAL vitamin A, if consumed in their natural form?
No, not exactly. They contain vitamin K, but there are TWO forms of vitamin K: K1 and K2.
Plants are rich in K1 and deficient in K2, while SOME animals foods have the K2. Fermented foods, mostly. K2, of course, is the one that is helpful to humans, and K1 does nothing for us. (This is a common theme when comparing animal foods and plant foods.)
Vitamin F is probably not important to human health. Besides that, these are all seeds, which are always toxic to humans. The plants do not "want" animals to eat their seeds, since the seed is the next generation for the plant species to survive.
This is why they are found in the sweet-tasting fruit of the plant. They "want" animals to eat the fruit, let the seeds process through the animal's digestive tract (unbroken), and deposited on land in a pile of fertilizer, so the next generation can sprout.
Eating any type of seed is not good for us. Hey, I like nut seeds too, but they are not a healthy food to eat. They are junk food.
Plants do not contain fats (with a few exceptions, like coconut and avacado), and their oils are not fats, either. CLA in plant foods is an imitation, not the real thing (which is only found in animal foods).
There are 9 essential amino acids. They are "essential" because the human body does NOT produce them. We MUST get them from our food.
Animal foods have these in abundance, but plant foods do not.
As I stated, sweet potatoes and carrots cover Vitamin A needs.
Your body knows exactly how much you need and won't convert any more than it needs to. You're stating that fact like it's a bad thing.
Meanwhile, you're failing to acknowledge too much vitamin A is toxic and can cause liver and kidney damage and many other issues. Eating a single serving of polar bear liver can kill you.
Additionally, sweet potato and carrots provide other benefits.
A sweet potato slathered with Kerrygold butter would be my recommendation for those wanting to optimize Vitamin A levels. Doesn't get much cleaner than that.
"Vitamin A is a classic example of a substance that is beneficial in small doses and toxic in higher doses. It is required by the body for a variety of purposes. It plays an important role in vision, bone growth, reproduction, immune activity, cell division and cell differentiation, the process by which a stem cell becomes a brain, muscle, lung blood or other specific cell. But amounts are important. While vitamin A is needed in small doses for all these bodily processes, in larger amounts it interferes with them. The result can be blurred vision, loss of hair, infections, birth defects and death. Outside of consuming polar bear liver or going crazy with supplements, an overdose of vitamin A is not an issue. Underdosing is a greater concern."
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/nutrition-you-asked/it-true-you-cannot-eat-polar-bear-liver
You wrote a lot of garbage here just to admit fermented plant foods contain K2.
In fact, not are they only high in K2, but they also have a higher concentration than animal sources.
One tablespoon of natto contains 150 micrograms of K2, over 13 times what you'd get from a 100 gram serving of beef liver, one of the best meat sources. A 50 gram serving of cheddar cheese contains 12 micrograms of K2.
Eggs are only a good source of K2 if chickens are eating natural diets. Bet you didn't know factory farmed chickens are often fed soy and corn only, and ths eggs they produce are often deficient in K2 and many other key nutrients as a result.
You're spreading falsehoods at this point.
"Vitamin F is the combination of two essential fatty acids. Essential fatty acids are fats that must come from your diet—your body can’t make them. Vitamin F is ALA (alpha-linoleic acid), an omega-3 fatty acid, and LA (linoleic acid), an omega-6 fatty acid.
Every single organ in your body needs these two essential fatty acids. They help you absorb calcium, build cell structures, maintain cell flexibility, and grow cells.
The problem with a typical Western diet is that it includes far too many omega-6 fatty acids and far too few omega-3 fatty acids. In a Western diet, people consume between 10 to 20x more omega-6 fatty acids than omega-3 fatty acids (10-20:1 ratio). This ratio should be 2:1 or 1:1.
The first sign of symptom of a vitamin F deficiency is dry, flaky skin. If you have this problem, make sure you begin to restore a healthy ratio of omega-6 to omega-3.
It’s best to get your omega-3 fatty acids from natural sources, like fatty fish, fish oil, and cod liver oil.
Vitamin F deficiency can cause:
• Prostate enlargement
• Inflammation
• Vision problems
• Heart problems
• Brain problems
The best sources of vitamin F/omega-3 fatty acids are:
• Avocados
• Greens
• Almonds and walnuts
• Sprouts
• Chia
• Sunflower seeds
• Olive oil
• Fish (especially fatty fish)
• Eggs
Avoid junk food, processed foods, and fast foods."
https://www.drberg.com/blog/the-first-sign-of-a-vitamin-f-deficiency
Genesis 43:11
And their father Israel said unto them, If it must be so now, do this; take of the best fruits in the land in your vessels, and carry down the man a present, a little balm, and a little honey, spices, and myrrh, nuts, and almonds:
God doesn't instruct us to gift toxic foods.
CLA is CLA. Also, unless you're eating grass-fed beef, or consuming milk or cheese sourced from grass-fed cows, or turkey or chicken eating natural diets, you're getting a neglible amount CLA whatsoever. CLA can be created by the human body as well.
Rice and beans alone contain all the essential amino acids one needs. Our bodies can create every protein they need with the building blocks contained in most legume and grain combinations found in nearly all traditional native diets.
So does liverwurst....easier to eat than liver itself. Boar's Head makes a clean liverwurst.
Dumbfuck vegans these days are now claiming that we should be nothing but grass eaters because we can move our jaws laterally which is an herbivore trait or something.
Remember kids, if you go "vegan af" you'll end up looking like Victor Creel!
It should be obvious to vegans that cholesterol is only found in meat. It bugs me when a can of vegetables at the grocery store says "cholesterol free."
The vegan looks a lot like that Beetlejuice woman. Maybe she just needs a change in diet. :)
The ignorance in this thread is astonishing...
https://www.greatveganathletes.com/patrik-baboumian-vegan-strongman/
Cue the downvotes!
Well, lets be honest. There's not many Patrick Baboumians walking around in comparison to the strung out wojecks.
However, theres one thing that the keto/carnivore crowd and the vegetarian/vegan crowd have in common:
WE BOTH HATE THE FDA
Clicking on All Athletes on that website is all the proof I need to never go vegan. Look how skinny some of those vegans are. The ones that are big like Patrik Baboumian haven't been vegan like enough to destroy them, or they are taking massive amounts of supplements, b12 shots, and steroids.
Some vegans do fine on vegan for many years, most long term vegans have serious issues. Why do so many women who go vegan lose their periods? Why are infants who are force fed vegan diets become malnourished. Some have died, parents have been arrested of this many times.
IF you feed an infant grass fed beef liver, and other animal high quality animal foods VS feeding an infant a vegan diet. The animal products infant will come out stronger, and more nourished 100% of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Vzo3C2vUQ
They are the exception to the rule. But if you want to act like a reductionist faggot and invalidate macro studies by using micro examples then feel free, but do not expect anyone to take you seriously or change their opinion in your favor
Steroids work wonders ... until you stop taking them (or until you die from overdose).