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ChronicMetamorphosis [M] [S] 24 points ago +24 / -0 stickied

Check this guy's channel out if you're based and you like Japan. He's a good dude.

u/Nurarihyon_no_MAGA u/sleepydude

Sorry if I missed our other fellow weebs, but I couldn't think of everyone. 😖

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ProphetOfKek 21 points ago +23 / -2

They also don’t have a problem not taking precautions, because they aren’t total degenerates

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Hing 14 points ago +17 / -3

Her other friends already have grandkids and they were always showing off and making her feel like a failure.

Of course, in the end it was all about her.

Molog 6 points ago +6 / -0

In her mind she has failed to instruct her own children properly, because she don't have grandkids.

SoMuchWinning45 5 points ago +6 / -1

lol top kek. Gotta love well-meaning but still narcissistic narcissists.

LoneWulf 0 points ago +1 / -1

I've witnessed a similar scenario between female siblings. The one with kids gets all the attention from their own mother. The one without kids is jealous that their sibling is getting all of the attention and they're not, so they strive to have children in order to divert the attention away from their sibling and onto themselves.

It's really messed up.

Burrito_Bandito 3 points ago +4 / -1

introduction of abortion is the basis of degeneracy. it enables all of it

ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

The video has the exact historical reason.

Darwyn 8 points ago +8 / -0

People need to understand that the tribalism he talks about was intentionally hyped up by the evil globalist cabal in the USA in order to purposely create chaos. These people want to destroy us.

rayw_wwg1wga 5 points ago +5 / -0

Replace left with deep state and that would be spot on

Darwyn 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fixed it. :)

TewaPatriot 24 points ago +25 / -1

Last I heard Japanese men would rather sleep with fake dolls and holographic anime women.

Ineedsanity 11 points ago +12 / -1

I watched that on MSM explaining why their birth rate is tanking. No research from me to corroborate this, but MSM said it, I cry bullshit now. If I care enough I will research it.

kekistani_prince 9 points ago +17 / -8

Stress from a broken work life balance and modern women are mostly bullshit. You get some good ones, if you find one, put a ring on her finger. MGTOW is the saddest movement in the history of this species.

Imagine entire classes of men deciding that porn's good enough because women are dangerous and not worth it.

Nurarihyon_no_MAGA 16 points ago +16 / -0

Yeah, as I said before, Japan has the most soul-destroying work culture on the planet; There is a reasn the phrase "karoshi" exists.

Also Japan's mythology and history is just as insane; Watch a few of this guy's explanations

BetterNameUnfound 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, Kentaro Miura, the author of the manga Berserk, recently died because his aorta exploded.

Probably from 30 years of weekly chapter-churning.

SoMuchWinning45 6 points ago +8 / -2

MGTOW is the way forward for men. Nothing sad about it. It's a perfectly logical reaction when you realize the deck is stacked against you, when the deck is the government.

kekistani_prince 5 points ago +9 / -4

Globalists want to depopulated you so you're just going to give in and do it for them?

MGTOW's a movement for defeated lobsters.

Keep yourself busy. Lift some weights. Say thanks and appreciate what God gave you. Understand that you are man. You are leader. Find a woman who will follow who sees you as leader.

A loser gives up, a man finds a way to win.

GoingCamaro 2 points ago +4 / -2

Until this evil system is formally destroyed, there is no sense bringing children to maintain the evil status quo. I mean... They can't fuck your kids if you don't have any and it's better for the species to expire than to give them anymore blood to exploit...

I prefer the we topple them outcome.

ImBillCurtis 1 point ago +1 / -0

This sounds like naive 18 yo optimism. No amount of manliness stops a woman from taking your kids and half your money because she decides she’s not happy. If you get married to a western woman, there’s over a 60% chance the marriage will fail. There’s an 80-90% chance she will file. It ain’t the men that’s the problem bud.

kekistani_prince 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm 32 and I have a dream life I never thought was possible when I was 18. When I was 18 I was a defeated MGTOW BETA BITCH. I got tired of being bullied and having women show no interest in me, so I learned female spychology, what they are attracted to and why. I realized that most men are BETA BITCHES and are LUCKY women are willing to fuck them sometimes. So I fixed myself and earned a dream life, but you know, I picked well. I didn't just fuck a spycho bitch.

Yeah, your odds of getting divorced if you "follow your heart" are 80% if you pick with your dick.

My wife is wonderful. She's devoted to me completely. She even had it written in a journal when she was 15 that the two of us would get married, she wanted me in her pants from the first day she saw me in highschool and never stopped wanting me. It took her 4 years to get me in bed, mostly because I had a lot of growing to do.

Now here I stand with 2 healthy children, a house, a car, a wife who is 105 lbs after 2 kids who hates spending money and is annoyingly frugal sometimes.

A wife who worked to put me through school, a wife that stayed with me when I had a nervous breakdown and was completely broken for months on end, a wife who supports every major decision I make, a wife who always backs me.

There is no union better than mine sanctified under God. My marriage is the best one.

Yours could be as well if you stopped being so fucking lazy about mating choices.

ImBillCurtis 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry, little dude. Been there done that. Don’t come at me with your cuck energy. The math speaks for itself.

SoMuchWinning45 1 point ago +5 / -4

I really don't care. I don't want kids, I don't want a family, hell, I hate every time I hear a kid squeal or scream. I don't want 'em, and I'd consider it the ruination of my life if I ever got a girl pregnant.

When the government does everything it possibly can to squeeze every penny and every ounce of life out of you, why bother rolling the dice on what may turn out to be a chameleon? I'd rather stay inside and play video games and watch anime. Yes I'm being serious. I want nothing to do with having kids and raising a family. It's not for me.

Cpleb 3 points ago +3 / -0

There’s nothing wrong with that choice. You sound like me before I had kids. Everyone said it would change when it’s your kids. I thought bullshit.

But you know what. It did change. That little tot in many ways is a reflection of you and your spouse. I learned so much about more myself and the world everyday from my kids. The screaming isn’t all the time and the fun parts far outweigh/outnumber the draining parts.

As a former non-kid person, I honestly can say I would not go back to my kid free life if given a choice. At the same time I can see why people choose not to have kids. Life is full of twists and turns. If you’re meant to have kids, you will end up with them even if you intended not to have them.

kekistani_prince 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly, all these divorce types are whining because they suck at picking women.

They'll just fuck the first spycho who sreads her legs and wonder why it didn't work out.

How about you make a friend first and fuck later.

You know which of your friends are spychos and which are keepers.

If you don't have a female best friend, you don't have a marriage prospect.

And I mean it, best friend. Someone you will hang out with just because they're fun to be with. Someone you'll take fishing with you because you actually WANT to talk to them.

Behavior is ~60% genetic and 40% environmental based on the results of the twins study.

If you breed with a bitch, expect bitch kids.

InarosPrime 1 point ago +2 / -1

My brother has children. His kids are like tequila: best enjoyed in moderation or you might do something you regret if you consume too much. I'm never having kids of my own.

SoMuchWinning45 0 points ago +1 / -1

A fellow registered loser I see.

SpaceManBob 5 points ago +6 / -1

Not having kids is exclusively the way to destruction, not forward. If you don't want kids and are fine with all that means then ok, but to act like all men doing the same thing is somehow "the way forward" is preposterous and utterly ridiculous.

SoMuchWinning45 1 point ago +2 / -1

Why participate in a system entirely rigged against men? It's a lose-lose for men, when all she has to do is say "I'm not happy," then everything is over. She takes half of everything you have, including any car and home, including majority custody of any kids. Does that sound like something good to you?

SpaceManBob 0 points ago +1 / -1

Doesn't really matter. The point is that not having kids by definition can not be the way forward for men. You just die and then the species dies and then there are no men left to experience this "better way".

kekistani_prince 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly MGTOW is Extinction Rebellion for losers. At least extinction rebellion types still have relationship.

Wah! The game is rigged against me! I have to play with a handicap! Wah!

Nut up bitch, you must think you suck if you think you can't win.

Fucking loser attitude.

SoMuchWinning45 0 points ago +1 / -1

So are you implying that men should play Russian roulette regardless of the dangers?

ImBillCurtis 1 point ago +1 / -0

They’re not. Modern, western women are not worth it. Hypermasculine, obese, and they file for divorce 80% of the time. On top of that, they’ll prioritize their own career and happiness above their husband’s or family and inevitably leave you because of their own choices. That’s not even mentioning the rigged family courts.

Hing 0 points ago +8 / -8

Oh look, it's a gentlesir from 1950. Make sure you don't blow your brains out after cupcake gets bored and takes your house, land, car, boat, savings, investments, income, pension, kids, pets, health, freedom, hopes, dreams and will to live. Every man who gets married in clown world is a fucking idiot.

kekistani_prince 2 points ago +11 / -9

^^^^Perfect example...

Women aren't evil or inherently bad. Most modern women are just spoiled, narcissistic skanks.

My wife was raised on a farm. She's Christian and she agrees that, at the end of the day, I am the head of the house and the leader of the family. She's happy to follow my leadership and prefers it when I make the decisions. She's always asking me for more babies. She cooks, cleans, does my laundry, homeschools our kids, obsessively eats healthy while pregnant and breastfeeding.

She stayed with me when I had a severe nervous breakdown to my own disbelief because I was sure she'd get sick of me being incapable for months, and making no money while we scraped by on next to nothing.

She's always trying to figure out ways to help me.

Not all women suck and some of them that do perform such the right way ;) lol.

Any ways, MGTOW is sad and lonely and results in automatically losing the game of life by rejecting procreation. You think your smart, but I will be the one carrying a genetic line forward. You're already dead, you just haven't stopped breathing yet. Life Is zero sum, if you don't have babies, there's more resources for my children. Go ahead and kill your own genetic line like a fool.

Instead of complaining about the rules of the game, learn how to act like a man and how to dominate your wife.

Women don't like pussies. Stop acting like a pussy

The more spoiled, skanky and rotten a woman is, the firmer a man she needs. Spoiled, rotten skanks are just screaming for DOMs.

Every woman is a sub, you're just not dom enough.

For example: my dad was soft with my mom, she cereal cheated on him and gaslighted him the for 18 years. My step-dad doesn't put up with her bullshit and is fully willing and ready to leave her if she starts pulling bullshit games on him and she knows it. She's a loving devoted wife to him.

DrFatsides 9 points ago +11 / -2

This sounds like a Dear Penthouse letter (I couldn't believe it happened to me!) for Conservative dudes.

My wife never has a different opinion from me and believes in my leadership every day.

I cry bullshit sir. Bullshit indeed. I know there are women who are excellent human beings but happy marriages usually have some give and take and you just described a woman with a limitless appetite for giving everything to you without complaint or a cross opinion.


kekistani_prince -2 points ago +4 / -6

Keep it coming: I live a dream life.

I don't even go to work. Period. I'm 100% financially independent and am living the FIRE movement.

Have fun growing trees that bear no fruit.

I'll be at home with my two beautiful girls and lovely wife while you're at home alone masturbating into a sock.

Channel Adam and you will conquer Eve.

I hope you wake up while you're still young enough to breed.

As for me, I relish Gods blessings and I thank him everyday.

Humble yourself and maybe he will bless you too.

Hing 2 points ago +5 / -3

Save me the tirade, I've heard it all. Did you know divorce court judges now wear bulletproof vests? It's because of all the murder-suicide attempts by "real men" like you.

kekistani_prince -1 points ago +4 / -5

Who said anything about "real men" I said "stop being a pussy."

My life is a dream. Sometimes even I think it isn't real.

I don't even go to work any more thanks to following the FIRE movement.

It's surreal. Everyday is a vacation.

God has blessed me beyond imagination.

Humble yourself and think about his way, follow it.

SpaceManBob 1 point ago +2 / -1

This is some "triple masks to protect against COVID when alone in your car" levels of fear right here.

TewaPatriot 8 points ago +8 / -0

I agree, you can't really say whats happening in another country I don't live in.

RugerP89 9 points ago +9 / -0

Imagine parroting old tropes on GAW worthy of boomer college FB forums.

Take for example Korea. It is end stage feminism. Do you know the Daughters of Megalia?


MAG768720 10 points ago +10 / -0

Just heard someone on the radio the other day talking about China.

Says the political policies in China are crushing that country.

Their own statistics say they will reduce their population by 50% in the next couple of generations, due to low birth rate.

Economically, they are in a downward spiral.

That is why the tyranny is ramping up. The tyrants are trying to hang on before it all implodes on them.

Japan has a similar problem, though for different reasons.

undine53 9 points ago +10 / -1

I've known several women who were not religious and never got over the trauma and sense of loss. It has nothing to do with beliefs, its a bond that is never broken - no matter what the degenerates who use abortions as a means of birth control say. They may be brazen now, but sooner or later many will pay the price.

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undine53 5 points ago +6 / -1

Don't have anything to do with psychics, they channel familiar spirits. The spiritual world exists, its angelic or demonic. Ghosts are a satanic deception.

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undine53 4 points ago +6 / -2

Good! I had an extraordinary happening after a friend died that convinced me she was saying good-bye. Years later I realised it was a satanic deception to lure me into forbidden territory. Thankfully I didn't go there, but people I know who did ended up with a lot of tragedy in their lives.

LambofLiberty 7 points ago +7 / -0

Similar, my grandpa has a 100+ year old house, experienced ghosts as a kid, as a young teen I really got into the paranormal, then crystals and witchcraft (very very briefly) before getting saved. Looking back it was not friendly ghosts, it was demons luring me to their darkness.

stevethefish76 3 points ago +3 / -0

Doood, that story reminds me of what a woman my mom knew went through. Mom knew her at a bible study. The woman had a couple of abortions, and somtimes at night she could feel the presence of two small beings in her home. Pretty freaky. The woman repented for her abortions. It was either the spirits of the aborted children or evil spirits of torment mimicking the children.

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stevethefish76 3 points ago +3 / -0

Got another one for you. I swear I'm not making this up. It's another story from that same Thursday night Bible study group my parents hosted when I was a kid. There was one married couple with a creepy husband. One time after the study and people were chatting and enjoying refreshments, Mom caught the man's eyes looking at her from across the room. She said it was like eyes within eyes looking at her. The closest she could compare it to was like at the end of The Black Hole, if you ever saw that movie, when the mad doctor was trapped inside the robot Maximilian's body, his eyes looking out from the robot's eyes. Mom was always discerning. The couple had stopped coming each week and later it was found out that the man had attempted to vaginally rape their infant daughter while changing diapers. That's about as sick as hell, and knowing that I do not doubt at all what people say about those in the Clinton/Epstein circle and beyond. She saw a demonic spirit in that man's eyes looking at her that evening.

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Mr_A 6 points ago +6 / -0

Some have numbed themselves to any sort of spiritual attachment. I believe what you say is true for most people, but the number and percentage of those who deny any existence beyond the physical body has been growing for a while.

Retaining_H2O 9 points ago +9 / -0

Is it because the Japanese don't put women who have had abortions onto a pedestal and revere them like the left does in our country?

smartbaum 3 points ago +3 / -0

quite the opposite, according to the video the women have access to shame rituals.

Mr_A 8 points ago +8 / -0

Does Japan get political hysteria about anything? Yes, I'm ignorant about Japan, but: serious question.

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SoMuchWinning45 3 points ago +3 / -0

I doubt the government would do that because those exports are massive.

ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Does Japan get political hysteria about anything?

Dragon Quest

mac1221 7 points ago +7 / -0

Not a political issue in Japan because they have found a way to appease their guilt for killing their unborn child through the belief in reincarnation that the holds that the soul of that child will return at another time in another womb. In other words, better luck next time kid. I wonder what happens to the soul that has the misfortune of continuing to pick parents that will snuff them out. They may never be born.

axrevolutionai 11 points ago +12 / -1

Well it's more like the ensoulment doesn't happen, and remains in temporal space. The body has an essence of energy like all things but essentially under Shintoism (especially Shintoism that is largely shaped by Buddhism but also acknowledges there is a central, singular god) it's not unlike that of a small animal or a rock. Reincarnation cycle kind of depends on acts if you look at the strictly Buddhist version or it and the biggest problem with Japan adopting Christianity is one, Japanese do not agree with the idea all humans base condition is sinful, and two, Japanese can not fathom salvation or enlightenment happening just because some one said so (without acts or labor)

Mind you, perhaps western Christians should debate ensoulment as much as the Jews or the eastern religions have. I have tried discussing it with Christians and none have even contemplated it. Questions like do you believe souls are floating up there like ghosts? Or are souls actively willed into existence by god a hundred times per second during all births? And when does that happen, when a sperm hits an egg or when a birth exits the womb or something in between? Are souls just a building block of God given or a separate energy existence? Do all humans get ensouled or can the worst among us (pedos, rapists, war mongers, Faucis, Soros, etc) or even just the apathetic normie npcs not have souls and that's where the concept of golem and homonculus originated?

mac1221 7 points ago +8 / -1

Very interesting reply there fren. Yes, there are conversations on the metaphysical realm that most Christians do not give any thought to, nor are they willing to engage in; whereas, mystical Judaism is willing to have those conversations and it is not threatening to their underlying belief in the Almighty One. I find that when people try to put the Almighty in a box that aligns with their understanding, He has a way of blowing up that box we have attempted to place Him in. If we are standing too close to that box, we could get messy or blown up with the box. Some of our greatest minds have been people of faith that were willing to let the Almighty define himself and to see a much bigger picture than what has been traditionally put forward.

Many Christians do not realize how much of their own theology has been influenced by Neoplatonism and its various precursors and offshoots. This is not to knock anyone for their beliefs. Far be it from me to say I have all the answers, and I do lean that way. But my faith is not easily shaken by alternative viewpoints; while at the same time, I am cautious of syncretism. Outright pantheism or polytheism aside, I find it interesting that so many ancient metaphysical belief systems and their views of cosmology that developed separately from each other, could all have so many ideas that they hold in common - such as the existence of a soul that transcends physical reality and a singular causational entity that is beyond adequate description. I do see a common denominator threaded in many belief systems once the layers are pealed back. Nice to know there are others on this forum that also have explored these same ideas.

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ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

The Japanese government allows abortions as long as a doctor stated it was necessary for the physical or mental health of the woman involved.

You missed that part.

That's a big step from the degenerate side of "my body my choice".

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mac1221 3 points ago +3 / -0

I did not miss that point. The question then becomes, what is in the necessary interests of the physical and mental health of the mother as determined by a physician? The answer to that question can be narrow in scope or wide. Medical approval is but a formality in Japan. Abortion is accepted both culturally and morally. The video only shows one Buddhist temple where you find the mizuko statues. In fact, there are Jizo statues all over Japan - even along the road. The Japanese have not made it the tribal issue that it has become here in the US. That may be due to the fact that Japan is primarily a homogenous monoculture. Therefore, there is not the division in Japan over such a choice as it has become here in the US. Over 300K abortions a year take place in Japan.

ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

The answer to that question can be narrow in scope or wide.

But I don't think it's one that you're going to accept.

Which is why BPS states "I'm not sure (it) could be imported"

I did not miss that point.

Then there's a part of Japan's culture that you do not understand.

Its ok. I assume you are a westerner like me. There's many shitty things about Japan that don't find its way through all video games and anime conventions.

Theyre nice to us, but they'd largely wish we'd leave them the hell alone and let them be Japanese. They don't care how cool, tolerant, or understanding we are about them. They wouldnt even want to have this deep of a conversation with you on this subject.

stevethefish76 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remember when Obama came to Japan in 2016 to apologize about the nuclear bombs. "Boo hoo hoo, my country sucks. I am so deeply sorry." At the time I was working at a company and away from the education realm, which was a bit refreshing. Some coworkers told me that they couldn't care less about his stupid apologies or his feelings of guilt and thought the whole thing was a waste of time. Actually, the Japanese guys there were pretty based and the two Japanese friends I still have from that job didn't take the deathjabs. Meanwhile pretty much every teacher at schools I work at have.

mac1221 2 points ago +2 / -0

My original statement was facetious. I suppose I should have clarified that. I do understand Japanese culture probably more than the average Westerner does. I worked with people from all over the Far East for several years and came to know and understand a number of their idiosyncrasies. I have several good friends that are native Japanese and several American friends that are currently living in Japan. Unlike most Westerners, I can identify most Eastern ethnicities by appearances. They are different. To most Americans, they all look the same. They sure as hell can tell each other apart.

You are right. The Japanese have accepted some aspects of Western culture, but it only goes so far. They would rather we left them alone except where it advantages them financially. If it was not for the threat from China, they would have booted out our military long ago. They would rather keep us at arms length and Americans can find life there difficult. They have had a love/hate relationship with Americans - but so have many other peoples. Their ways have served them well for several thousands of years and those ways have kept them together as a cohesive society and culture. Like any other people, they have their strengths, beauty, and their warts. I try to see and focus on those strengths and beauty in all people, without being ignorant of the warts.

Cpleb 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don’t understand this video. So it’s saying there’s no conflict bc they made a stone statue for the dead babies soul? I think that’s silly. Maybe it’s more like they don’t have a long history of going against their government? Happy to be educated by someone more familiar with Japanese history which I admit know very little of

ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe it’s more like they don’t have a long history of going against their government?

This is correct. You run from China, fight amongst yourselves, get invaded by the British who shove their culture and modernity up your ass, then later get Hilter as an ally only to be blown up by America's Atom Bomb. Needless to say, this has made the Japanese submissive to many tyrannical governments over time. They've always had to just live with their invaders, even their language reflect this.

So it’s saying there’s no conflict bc they made a stone statue for the dead babies soul?

Kinda, but to understand this better, you have to understand Animism and Shintoism: https://www.sutori.com/en/story/animism-shintoism--31VDVaUBAxY2gYwEjE1a1yTm

Some of these religious traits carry over to their normal life. Japanese culture is very ritualistic. The Jizo statues are a ritual that help them channel their emotions when they have an abortion (mind you they only allow abortion for physical or medical reasons).

It may seem silly to us, but then again, one of the amazing things about Jesus Christ is that all we need to do is go to him. It tends to make things easier, imo.

stevethefish76 2 points ago +2 / -0

And you would think that after two atomic bombs being dropped on them, Japanese people would lead the world in skepticism over what their government tells them they should do. Alas, this is not the case and the percentage of vaccinated people here is tremendous.

mac1221 1 point ago +1 / -0

Japanese culture has no moral or ethical problems regarding abortion. Since theirs is more of a monoculture, they do not have the fierce emotional divide like here in the US. Even though abortion has to be approved by a doctor, that is just a formality. Eastern cultures view life and death differently than in the West. They have a long history of a belief in reincarnation that allows them to view the loss of a child as only being a temporary state of the soul until it can find another vessel/body in this life. They also tend to view life through the lens of a more societal collective cohesiveness versus the West that values individualism. The Japanese are not welcoming to cultural diversity. They have their customs and traditions that have been developed over millennia.

ScreamingEagle1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

Interesting video. A perspective I never considered.

ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

👆 This was the point of sharing this video.

WeekoWolf 4 points ago +4 / -0

The deeps depopulation plan is world wide don't be fooled.

ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Big time.

stevethefish76 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, Japan has its share of Freemasons too. There's a guy named Akio Seki who does a dumb paranormal-type TV show and wears a Freemason G necklace. The last time I caught him on TV here in Japan, he was saying that Joe Biden is being controlled by an AI computer or something. Whatever. People will believe his crap, but the TV won't take the time to show people how useless masks are against viruses.

blacksmith21 3 points ago +3 / -0

The guys can’t even get laid. They need every live birth they can get.

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stevethefish76 3 points ago +3 / -0

Here is a non-YT link of the video, on Odysee:


I haven't watched the video yet, but there are shrines here in Japan for aborted babies. The little stones have doll-like clothing put on them.

Miztivin 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is a good video to show to lefty friends. Its pretty much how I feel. Just have some reverence and common sense regulations. Also let the states decide.

cronoes 1 point ago +2 / -1

Watched the video. Do not think it can be considered a solution, considering the nation is currently undergoing a massive demographic implosion, with abortion likely contributing to that crisis in a significant manner.

An offering to pacify the wrathful spirit of a deceased child and assuage a mother's guilt will not stop the fact that karma was delayed - there is payment to be made in some way or fashion.

Surprisingly short sighted from BPS.

smartbaum 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well he admitted as much in the end that these are probably not viable solutions for import to the U.S. The bigger key point he made is in the beginning and profoundly simple: WHY is the nation constructed of multiple states in the first place? Isn't it in part to defer many matters to regional-cultural and worldview subzones?

cronoes 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sure, we can choose to blow up our civilization and load up our karmic debt in a more culturally sensitive manner fitting for our own neck of the woods.

Qlueless 1 point ago +1 / -0

Of course their population is imploding, the cost of living exceeded sensibility. Try renting a messily 300-700sq ft apartment.

JediMasterPepe 1 point ago +1 / -0

I used to watch Black Pilled Speaks but he's too black pilled for me.

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ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I almost don't want to answer you because its such an entitled statement.

FatReggie 0 points ago +2 / -2

This video is all about assuaging the feelings of guilt and remorse, post-abortion. Nothing about saving precious unborn lives here. So sorry, this does not help for the problem we have in the West of abortion on demand (or a whim).

ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

It doesn't claim to. It shows the Japanese perspective and how their society deals with the issue (as stated in the video). The Japanese also tend to accept the laws that are delt to them - a big cultural difference.

One thing you have to remember, is that Japan only utilizes abortion as long as a doctor stated it was necessary for the physical or mental health of the woman involved.

They still force you to keep the baby if you're being a ho-bag. That's a big difference from the ideas the American Left hold today.

BPS makes a good point though - our system allows us to break up the laws between 50 states. Shouldn't that be sufficient for our difference in thought?

But it isn't, because we've been duped into tribalism. Just like owning guns, couples will find ways around the law to get abortions.

I'm not here to feed echo chambers. As a matter of fact, I abhor them.

Dont be duped into an echo chamber. Theres a silent minority among the women within in the MAGA movement that want choice on this issue. If the sound of that inflames you, take it up with them, not me. These girls certainly open up about this when you give them the space. Think about that. It should remind you of the political climate in 2016 being a Trump supporter.

For the record, I dont want any babies dying, but I know thats unfortunately not realistic. 😔

SpaceManBob -2 points ago +1 / -3

Very convenient that all your wild claims of "silent majorities" are pushed off onto others. Your comment is very nicely constructed so you don't have to provide a lick of evidence for any of your claims. "Oh I can't prove it or give an example of one of these people because they're silent! But trust me they exist and are the majority!". Instead we all have to go on some potential wild goose chase looking for these mythical people you claim exist.

Also, your argument is basically "criminals will still commit crimes so why make anything illegal!". I guess murder should be legal too. People will circumvent the law so why bother!

Breaking it up between 50 states IS sufficient for many here from what I've seen as they heavily favor states rights. But at least for myself I see no reasonable argument for making murdering babies a state decision but murdering adults a federal one. Plenty or even most things are/should be state decisions, deciding on the legality of murder isn't one of them.

Your defeatist attitude helps no one. Least of all the babies you say you don't want dying, but aren't willing to make the hard decisions to try and save as many of them as possible. It'll never be fully fixed or perfect but that isn't the point. The point is to try and do as much as we can to preserve life and do the right thing.

ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are so blinded by rage, that you didnt actually read what I wrote. Slow down and read:

But trust me they exist and are the majority!

I called them a minority. You didn't read.

Breaking it up between 50 states IS sufficient

I agree. BPS agrees. Again, you are reading what you want to see. We've been duped into tribalism as a country. That's why the 50 state solution isn't sufficient. Not that it isn't sufficient on its merit. It's not sufficient because of how disfunctional we act as a whole.

Also, your argument is basically "criminals will still commit crimes so why make anything illegal!"

I didn't say anything like that! 👆🤣🤣🤣

Your defeatist attitude helps no one.

I'm not defeated. I know that there are acceptable times for couples to abort. If they even take that route its going to be a decision they make - whether it be by legal or illegal means.

Again, if a 50 state solution works, why cant my state hold this opinion, while your state holds a different one? Can't have your cake and eat mine too, you know.

SpaceManBob 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're really good at telling other people what they think and how they feel. "Muh rage" is laughable and my eyes are wide open. And while I did misread that one precise word in your post it hardly changes my point. You've constructed and phrased your claim in such a way that it can't be disproved without going out and probing dozens of MAGA women for their thoughts on abortion. You've simply claimed they exist and used their claimed existence to push your point, as if it even matters what a minority of people think in regards to protecting the life of the unborn.

Now it seems you're misreading what I'm saying. Read the whole sentence. You said people don't find that sufficient, I'm saying they do. Not that you don't. Again, I've read exactly what you've said save for one word as previously explained.

It's not "tribalism", it's understanding that murder is wrong and shouldn't be up to a state to decide to make it legal or not. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Every child has an inherent right to life. Killing them deprives them of this. No state, doctor, or person has the right to do this. It only looks like "tribalism" because one side has been brainwashed into a belief that babies can be discarded on a whim. They've moved so far away from reason on the topic that the reasonable people can't discuss the intricacies of what the rules should be without some crazy coming in and screeching that there shouldn't be any rules at all.

You said "Just like owning guns, couples will find ways around the law to get abortions.". Usually people say this as a reason why making the thing illegal is pointless. The logical extreme of this is to make nothing illegal. Now, I'd certainly agree guns shouldn't be made illegal and that one of the reasons is that it won't stop anyone from getting guns, but that's certainly not the primary reason. In the case of abortion it's much closer to (read: the same as) murder. It doesn't matter that people are still going to do it, it should be illegal. But maybe none of this was your intention, maybe you were just pointing out this reality as if people don't already understand this being that it's simple logic and observation of reality. In that case you do you I guess and I suppose I was incorrect on my interpretation there as well. But you also aren't telling anyone anything they didn't already know.

And it sounded to me that "For the record, I dont want any babies dying, but I know thats unfortunately not realistic." meant that you'd agree in an ideal world that abortion would never happen/be illegal. We obviously don't live in an ideal world but that doesn't mean we can't move to try and make it a better place and protect the lives of everyone, including the unborn. This is why I thought your reasoning sounded defeatist. Like "oh this is bad/wrong/shouldn't happen but what can we do".

Finally, there is no acceptable time to murder an unborn baby. And before you proclaim tribalism again, I'd point out that it seems the majority of people DO support abortion to a limited degree. Every conservative voice I listen(ed) to that lead me to where I am now would agree there should be cases where it's allowed. Yet I don't. I don't because I came to my own conclusion, not because of tribalism. I disagree with a large part of "my tribe" on this topic it seems.

ChronicMetamorphosis [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

And while I did misread that one precise word in your post it hardly changes my point.

Well, yes it does. The words majority vs minority are opposites.

You've constructed and phrased your claim in such a way that it can't be disproved without going out and probing dozens of MAGA women for their thoughts on abortion

Im only telling you what I see. Its up to you to verify for yourself until a preferred source comes around. It's even here on this forum if you give women the chance to speak.

I guarantee after reading this conversation, they won't give you the time of day.

You've simply claimed they exist and used their claimed existence to push your point, as if it even matters what a minority of people think in regards to protecting the life of the unborn

Caught you in a slur of emotion though didn't I? 🤣🤣🤣 Lay off the pot.

You said people don't find that sufficient, I'm saying they do. Again, I've read exactly what you've said save for one word as previously explained.

I'm not even sure what you're talking about. Why dont you use the quotes feature on this forum to be more accurate?

The logical extreme of this is to make nothing illegal.

Yes, but you're the one who jumped onto that one. Not me.

This is why I thought your reasoning sounded defeatist.

I honestly dont care what you think. To be frankly honest, I think you're a mess. 🙂

I'd point out that it seems the majority of people DO support abortion to a limited degree.

Ok so what are you even fighting about again?

Did you just indirectly show there is truth to my claim of a silent minority?

as if it even matters what a minority of people think in regards to protecting the life of the unborn.

I'd point out that it seems the majority of people DO support abortion to a limited degree.

Ok, you're just an ass at this point. 😑

If you go off on another tirade of text, Im not reading it.

Qlueless 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's already broken up between states. What is considered a Justified Homicide in one state can be considered first, second, or third degree Murder in others without things such as stand your ground laws.

A murder is defined as the unlawful killing of a natural person.

A natural person is defined as someone that was born naturally as opposed to a legally created person such as a corporation.

At the time of this nations founding many people did not think the fetus was infused with the human soul until the quickening. Even then abortion wasn't considered more than a heinous misdemeanor. If you actually read the earliest laws they were to punish incompetent doctors for the death of a woman, not for performing an abortion...

SpaceManBob 0 points ago +1 / -1

What isn't justified in any state? Walking up to some random, innocent guy in a shop and shooting him in the head for no reason whatsoever. This is illegal everywhere and if it somehow isn't it should be.

The benefit of living in the present is that we can take what we have now and what we had in the past and mesh them together into something altogether better, to get the best of both. Just because a law or way of thinking/viewing things is older doesn't mean it's better. Conversely just because something is newer it isn't necessarily better either.

Qlueless 2 points ago +2 / -0

"we can take what we have now and what we had in the past and mesh them together into something altogether better"

That's the problem though. The left wants post birth abortions and I the right treats the morning after pill as murder. People are galvanized in untenable positions.

"and shooting him in the head for no reason whatsoever."

Case and point. You created a strawman.

SpaceManBob 1 point ago +1 / -0

Except they aren't. There's plenty of people in the middle. The problem is partly that the left has pushed the "middle" so far away from where it used to be that now the middle is practically on-demand abortion all the way up to birth. Leftism is a fully degenerate and an unnatural and forced ideology that shouldn't be considered when making decisions. What they want really isn't important until they stop supporting the grooming of children.

What we need is to bring the country back to reason and then the two sides that are actually reasonable can debate and discuss on what the best way to implement these policies and rules are. Even just on the right there's plenty of range in opinions to have discussions over how to do things. We need to get back to people agreeing on what they want and disagreeing on how to achieve it (agreeing that protecting children is paramount and working to find out how to best do that vs one side wanting to protect children and the other wanting to murder than after birth and groom them).

You seemed to be responding to my claim about murder being illegal at the federal level with the claim that it's already broken up by the different states. My response was to make a nice and simple scenario that wasn't up for interpretation and would be clearly illegal in all jurisdictions. The scenario is also almost identical to what abortion is. I don't see the strawman.

Qlueless 0 points ago +1 / -1

"The scenario is also almost identical to what abortion is."

No, nobody gets abortion for "no reason."