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If the government shuts down, then the military will take over. This is called checkmate. President Trump told us to "read and understand" this important Q post. Is this the plan? (media.greatawakening.win) Q-analysis!
posted 3 years ago by _Donald-Trump_ 3 years ago by _Donald-Trump_ +364 / -0
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– ButteryBiscuitBase 64 points 3 years ago +64 / -0

This theory comes up every time there is a debt ceiling dispute. And every time the debt ceiling is simply raised.

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– BurtMcGirt 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

And the Republicans get no meaningful concessions.

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– eagledriver 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

SEE REPLY BELOW...President Trump HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN CONTROL, but look at the AMOUNT OF FEDERAL CASE THAT MADE THE climb to 300,000+!!!

I believe we are getting closer to the precipice than most people think...The way Xiden/son are acting they KNOW something is up and they are scared shitless...looking at the newsies one can tell that these idiots are on another planet...The more that gets done under the radar the BETTER OFF WE ARE...

My suggestion: Get your stuff in a "GO READY" attitude-rifles, pistols, ammo, rations and change of clothes BECAUSE the former/retired military just might be called on in a moments notice...

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– BurtMcGirt 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

That's basically what I was telling my girlfriend the other day. Things will get badly slowly and then quickly. I think we are close to the quickly part. As soon as the porn, Netflix, sportsball, and dining on my dime is over, it will get bad quickly. Perhaps to the precipice.

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– eagledriver 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

See ya' on the battlefield...I think the posters need to print their names on something so we can identify one-another...just a suggestion...BUT that enhances the certain thangs coming our way!!!!...LOL!!!

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– TheRealMikeFlynn 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Things will not get badly slowly and then quicker and then slowly then slower and badly again? But yes, once they pull all the conveniences that control and blind normies, it will happen super quick. Although it’s your job to keep talking. Talk to anyone who will listen. We need to convince more asap. We r a bit behind schedule. Redpill. Redpill Redpill. Repeat after me: I love shoving my big red pill down chucks throat!

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– TheRealMikeFlynn 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This guy knows what’s up. Precipice in coming weeks. Trust me I know. I’m here to specifically let you pedes know. Thanks pedes. I love these frens

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– libtards_r_stoopid 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Oh wow! You know? Hey, everyone this guy knows the plan and when and how everything is going to happen. Trust him. He knows.🤣 you're so full of shit. Get the fuck outta here you dumbass troll

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– LBTrumplican2 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

u/#q282

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– RandoMando2A 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Believe it when I see it.

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– libtards_r_stoopid 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

^^^^Exactly

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– libtards_r_stoopid 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Ok handshake🤣GFY

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– lsvogel 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Cool, I'll be glued to my laptop for citizen journalist updates!

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– Honor+Duty 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I don’t beleive this either but I’m still gonna check in every 5 min just in case.

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– ObamaSucks 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

But every time the debt ceiling comes up, we are not with FJB occupying White House as a pawn for china. Nor with Trump blasting away with comms that end up as possible proofs, nor with the doj, fbi, ses, and cia wildly corrupt and out of control, nor with control of the house and no fancy fucking Nancy …… shall I go on ?

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– MatildaJ 31 points 3 years ago +31 / -0

If you are referring to the US MILITARY at the present time, well unless there are sleeper cells waiting to arrest those brass in the Military that have sold America out, I fear for the American people and the world for that matter. As Colonel Douglas MacGregor has said, the Military is top heavy with Generals, that want to relive WW2 and are itching for a fight with Russia and China. Warmongers. I see no evidence that the US Military would rescue America under the current leadership atm. American soldiers are already in Ukraine and fighting under the NATO banner. Locals in towns said in some cases, that’s the only language they hear!

Listen to General Milley. He’s whoring the Military every chance he gets in telling the public Ukraine is winning. They’re not. If there is an escalation and if nuclear missiles are dropped on Russia, then it’s over. Over. There are TEN decision making centres worldwide, including DC, London, Brussels, Paris, etc. that voted to bring Russia to its knees by sanctions, etc. The SARMAT can travel around the world in 35minutes. It Carries 10 warheads which travel higher than anything on earth can detect. People claim that Russia is the same as the Soviet Union. It’s not. It’s a deeply religious country where most Russians are God fearing Christians. Their faith is preserving them. The leader of the Donbas recently said. (Paraphrasing) If it comes down to nuclear war, those devil worshipping war mongers will be destroyed and they will go to hell. We (meaning Russians) if attacked and destroyed, will go home to our Father in heaven. Christians worldwide realise that we are ‘just passing thru’ as our eternal home is with Christ in Heaven. That is the deep faith that the world is trying to destroy.

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– Slechta5614 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

The thing about generals is they don't care about your feelings. Only the mission. If they have to play a part they will

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– BurtMcGirt 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

They don't care about facts or feelings. They care about pensions, kickbacks, and post military payoffs.

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– Slechta5614 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I disagree strongly.

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– BurtMcGirt 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I guess I should have included "advancing a woke, globohomopedo, communist agenda" as well. I'm sure some are "just following orders" but there are some true believers as well.

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– Slechta5614 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Read art of war. These people have. Lots of good stuff there. U must understand war. U must understand how big this is. U must not get emotional. Pray pray pray.

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– NewExpertBread 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

That's a good one.

If you're interested in a read, try: "On Killing" by Dave Grossman

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– drpisser 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

This 👆

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– Slechta5614 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Will have to check it out. What about it made u reference it

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... continue reading thread?
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– 2ndenthusiast 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

the 11 combat command generals? oh yes.

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– Slechta5614 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

It amazes me how easy people are swayed and look at single actions as if it's not war. They don't show there moves until they want them to be seen

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– MatildaJ 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Nothing worse than a General that does not want to defend the country they represent.

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– Slechta5614 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Idk internet generals are pretty bad as well

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– MatildaJ 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Then I’ll see you in heaven friend. 🙏🏼

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– TheRealMikeFlynn 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You mean hell I assume?

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– TheworldlovesTrump 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Amen! I agree!

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– purkiss80 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Fantastic comment/statement...👌👍

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– CHEFF10BRS 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Very well said !!! BRAVO

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– axrevolutionai 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I assure you what Q has as a counter measure is a lot quicker than 35 minutes, there is no need to worry

We're talking philosophical weapons, John Trump/Tesla reality bending weaponry and some ancient technolgy as well. Nukes are primitive by comparison. Read about the Eldridge and Philadelphia/montauk experiments for a taste of what the US government did with reject leftovers they were able to acquire

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– Anon1970 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The Philadelphia Experiment, good movie.

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– MatildaJ 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You don’t need nukes. Precision guided weapons are now used.

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– ExplosionofBullSh1T 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Fantastic.

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– WuTangFlu2020 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

The longest furlough I’ve experienced was a month during a stalemate in debt negotiations. No military took over then so why would they now?

It’s pretty damn clear a domestic enemy has taken over elections and the majority see it. I’m no longer convinced the military is going to do anything.

It’s us, it’s up to us, WE the people are the Q exposure. Military is as much of a shit show as everything else.

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– eagledriver 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

WELL, THIS THREAD WENT TO HELL IN A HAND-BASKET!!!

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– MI-Vet 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

OK, let's say you are correct. What exactly is your "plan" in that case?

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– Slechta5614 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I have an idea. Find anons that belong to godly churches and connect those churches. let the church be the rally point.

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– 427windsorman 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The Declaration of Independence outlines the only plan we need. It is up to the People to either unite and implement, or stay divided and under tyrannical rule.

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– GodBlessTheUSA22 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Legislation titled “the plan” was posted yesterday. It was related to bankruptcy. I read it, but not sure if it’s just by chance it’s called the plan or if it’s somehow related to “the plan”.

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– dakinnia 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Doomers, Trump did his vaccine stuff to prevent lockdown and Great Reset.

Get over yourself. This is war and there is always collateral damage.

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– Ogcarvattack 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It was almost like he told us that from the beginning.

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– ObamaSucks 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Absolutely ALWAYS ! Take that to the bank .

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– deleted 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0
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– Slechta5614 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

All power is given from the father.

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– BetterNameUnfound 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Unless it's Pinochet.

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– proforma1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

My only thought is that something has to trigger a start (or finishing) to the plan, if there is one. And the debt ceiling would be a great way. Remember Trump wanted McCarthy in there, I for one could not understand why, so maybe he knows the fight will be over the debt ceiling and the patriots will not budge, unless cuts to the budget are made. It may go to a government shutdown, but if it doesn't--then what??

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– ravonaf 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I thought the military had all ready taken over and this was all just a show. There are too many layers to this onion.

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

That is the assumption. However they are still unable to try civilians with a functioning civil court in place. Only once the civil courts are no longer functioning can the military place civilians in a court martial. So you can see the issue. Even if military is in control, which it does seem to be, they still cannot arrest everyone. Some people they probably can arrest for war crimes. Its very likely already happened. Especially foreigners. But I think it becomes more complicated for civilians not clearly engaged in war crimes without evidence provided by the military itself.

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– MAGAdeburger 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Would be a good time for people to review the Hamdi case.

Yes, citizens must be tried in civil court. However, during time of war (invasion, insurrection or rebellion) when civil courts are not able to function, then military courts have jurisdiction. Moreover, during ALL times, enemy combatants, even if citizens, do not have the right to habeas corpus, nor rights to civil trial.

The question is over who determines whether a person is to be considered an enemy combatant. This was explored by Scalia and Thomas in their dissents, particularly by Thomas. That discretionary authority rests in the Executive branch, not the Court. However as Scalia points out, the government cannot just detain anyone, not even an accused enemy combatant, indefinitely. So the government must charge and conduct a trial, whether civil or military.

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– ILoveIvermectin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I’m not interested in a so called temporary military solution. We’ve seen how long this “plan” is taking out, not interested in troops on the street. Don’t need any bdsm generals out here.

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– fatmilf 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Trump referring to Q post 14 will be much more obvious than two deltas, unfortunately

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– florida_boi 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Trump definitely said that loud and clear.

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– Restore 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

This is ridiculous. What you are doing with the numbers to get to drop 14 is baseless. It’s called Making Stuff Up at this point toads.

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– lsvogel 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

385,000 Sealed indictments...will it happen? It would be positive thing, I think...

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– ShmellyTunaMelt1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Why would HRC be guarded by SS if she was never President?

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– DBEMarine 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Cause her husband was.

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– ShmellyTunaMelt1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

oh ya. duh. thx fren.

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– DBEMarine 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

No worries. Fren help Fren!

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– DBEMarine 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Well then let me help again by saying, I think GameStop is the financial arm of the Plan. Check out the DD section of Reddit's r/Superstonk. Buy GME, DRS in book form at Computershare.com, and HODL for phone numbers of a price!

There is a lot of military comms like posts from the Chairman of the board of GameStop, Ryan Cohen. Q said "Learn our comms"

MSM shits all over GameStop and never mentions DRS. DRS takes your stock out of the DTCC(Stock market) and puts them in your name. Stock in the market is just an IOU. You can DRS your DWAC as well!

Ask for more info if you need me to clear anything up.

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Yes it assumes we are living under some form of devolved government and martial law or perhaps insurrection act. Once the civil courts are out of the way the last roadblock for military tribunals of civilians would be removed.

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

No. The answer to the question is martial law.

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The question is: Under what circumstances can MI take over for FBI, CIA, NSA, DOJ, etc. From my understanding, the answer is martial law or insurrection act.

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– MemeToDeath2021 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Do we know Law of War section that talks about this? I need to file "Notice of Liability" to several corrupt judges and state officials. This is intended to strip them of the "No Intent" defense for upcoming criminal complaint, but I'd like to include some language regarding a future Military Tribunal as well.


I have a copy of the Law of War manual, so looking through it for some more sauce.

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– ObamaSucks 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Probably sections 11.3 and 11.4

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Law of war is a separate issue. That would be it civilians were to be tried as “illegal combatants” by the military. Which is definitely possible. But in such a case they are no longer considered civilians. It would be in the sections about enemy combatants.

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– MemeToDeath2021 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Law of war is a separate issue.

We clearly are in a state of war, but you are saying that a declaration of the "occupiers" declaring war on the citizens is another level where enemy combatants could be put up for sealed indictment and Military Tribunal under Law of War? Any idea how to send info to the Jags to add a state official to the sealed indictment list for Constitutional violations?


Per your post you are saying undeclared war (even if we are in one), but martial law automatically is active when Civil Gov't courts cease to function, shifting all civil court jurisdiction to UCMJ jurisdiction under the Military Courts? Interesting if this includes Federal Courts (Const/common law jurisdiction) as well as ALL STATE COURTS (CORP) [UCC/Corp law jurisdiction]


10 USC Ch. 47: UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=%2Fprelim%40title10%2FsubtitleA%2Fpart2%2Fchapter47&edition=prelim

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes we are clearly in a state of war. I am saying there are at least two ways that civilians could be tried by the military. One would be as enemy combatants providing aid to the enemy, illegal combatants, for war crimes. The other would be under a scenario of both martial law AND non-functioning civil courts. Martial law alone is not enough to legally allow military to try civilians, at least from my research. See Ex parte Milligan:

Military commissions organized during the late civil war, in a State not invaded and not engaged in rebellion, in which the Federal courts were open, and in the proper and unobstructed exercise of their judicial functions, had no jurisdiction to try, convict, or sentence for any criminal offence, a citizen who was neither a resident of a rebellious State nor a prisoner of war, nor a person in the military or naval service. And Congress could not invest them with any such power.

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– MemeToDeath2021 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

ty. Good stuff. As far as enforcement mechanism there appear to be 3 options:

  1. Functioning Federal civil court - Federal marshals

  2. Corrupt Federal civil court - Legal militia deputized by Const Sheriff or just Sheriff (in case of 9th/10th Amendment invoked by Sheriff or individual who's Constitutional Rights have been violated); i.e. reclaim of delegated authority to the Federal Gov't back to the state or individual due to "waiver of delegated authority by Fed Gov't of powers" by not enforcing Constitution.

  3. Non-functioning Fed Civil Court/martial law/state of war - US Military units (special ops/MPs, national guard, or US army?); unclear which unit(s) exactly supports JAG lawyers to enforce their court orders.

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yes thats right. If you recall, I think it was during january 6th, some of the militia in DC were deputized. Something like 100 men. I remember watching it and being quite suspicious of why that was necessary unless something else was going on that we were not seeing. So yes, the milita is outside of posse comitatus.

However the most important part of the whole operation is the military intelligence. They have all the evidence. Without the ability to present the military intelligence in a court of law, then simply arresting the criminals wont be enough.

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– MemeToDeath2021 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes. I agree. The nuts and bolts of how to actually execute the idictments, arrests, trials, and sentencing appears to be in place and very active since January of 2021; and yet the deep state minions, ANTIFA, low level operatives appear completely unaware.

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– ythehorses 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'm holding my breath.

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– DiJiT 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Any government is only good at two things. 1) taking your hard earned money. 2.) turning around and wasting that money.

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– FreedomFlowerDelta 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Then we have the best of the best

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– WinstonO1984 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

"Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" We are already at War, Ladies and Gentlemen...

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– SJBHamilton 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

cool !

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– Jcholl9 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I trust in God that everything playout in are favor. have faith, the best is yet to come 🐸

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– Forthelead 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

How did you arrive at 1 & 4?

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

sorry those are the deltas between the post times. one minute from 1st post to second post. 4 minutes from second post to third post.

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– Decodingmyballz 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It will be raised I’ll bet you any amount of money

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– ObamaSucks 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

And we did just cross the 2 year point of FJB .Lord let this be go time !

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Its one of the only ways the military would be allowed to provide evidence against civilians in a court of law. Thus, its one of the only ways that we can arrest the corrupt people in this country and hold them accountable. Military is the only way. They already have all the evidence, they just are not allowed to use it unless very specific circumstances arise.

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– purkiss80 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

They already have all the evidence, they just are not allowed to use it unless very specific circumstances arise.

👍👌

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– ObamaSucks 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

☝️ this per purkiss

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– CHEFF10BRS 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I get it - "It's Chess" - it has to play out. BUTT - At some point , the loser tosses the board in a fit of rage. My earlier post is describing just that ; "Evidence / Specific Circumstance" will most likely not come into play until the "SHIT SHOW" has ravaged the world's population's and the populace's live's in every way. ( to late. ) "These People" who always start the WAR seem to be the people who are the one's doling out the punishments to the minions and passing judgment upon us, once the shit show is over. Once again - the founding fathers placed the first and second amendments at the forefront of the Bill of Rights. ( so we wouldn't playing chess and celebrating with a SHIT SHOW ) The rule of LAW must be upheld "Justly & Swiftly". Criminals must live in complete and total FEAR , at all times. A law abiding person should have nothing to fear - but the criminal himself.

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– SpaceManBob 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Flipping the table has 0 benefit in a game of chess. There is no loser until checkmate. Even if checkmate is a forgone conclusion, there's still the tiniest chance that the player in the winning position makes a colossal fuckup and you can win. And even if they don't fuck up, you can still try to force a draw depending on the situation. So the only thing that anyone who wants to win (and in this case winning means surviving) would do is play the best move every turn no matter what the outcome looks to be.

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– KimJung-Un 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Again, all based on your own opinion of what would happen. You would know nothing about anything going on.

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– damessinger 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I disagree. I think we would know who is in charge and who is directing the military at the point that it happens. Furthermore, as more and more cases are thrown out of the courts or not even making to the courts (which are mostly corrupt at this point), it becomes painfully clear what Q has told us - the military is the only way. Bring it on!!!

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– ObamaSucks 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

🛎🛎🛎

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– MatildaJ 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Exactly!!

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– LukyNumbrSlevinteen 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Hate to break the news, Military has been in control now for years.

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– Slechta5614 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I disagree. I think they will be very clear and precise

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– Tewdryg 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

There are couple of things about the military that is easily overlooked.

The military is highly compartmentalized. There are at least four acknowledged branches of the military. The Judge Advocate General (JAG) Corps is the legal branch of the military. More on this later, but first there may be even more branches/corps that are not acknowledged.

A clearance isn't a carte blanc pass for anyone to access information. A clearance is provided with the strict limitation for a need-to-know basis. A nuclear submarine technician may have a top secret clearance, but has no business being anywhere near the crytographer's shack. Moreover, there are many compartmentalized need-to-know organizations in and outside the Pentagon. In addition, there are many more layers of need-to-know-only projects within and outside of these need-to-know organizations. It's obvious the military has billions... even hundreds of billions of dollars not accounted for. We've heard of skunk works and black projects. There's for more than any of us will ever know.

The Chief of Staff, General Milley is not privy to the vast majority of these need-to-know organizations. There are one's he knows of, others that he is given privy to know, and others that he will never become aware of. The Defense Secretary has the same experience and acts as a general policy maker and figurehead.

When the military is said to be the 'only way', there are many ways this could be true. The military has a standard code of conduct governed by the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). It is a detailed body of law that has governed the U.S. armed forces since 1951. It sets forth a set of military laws unlike common law. The Judge Advocate General (JAG) Corps is the legal branch of the military, concerned with military justice and military law. The chief attorney in each branch is the JAG, and those under him or her are considered to be Judge Advocates. These individuals both defend and prosecute military personnel, using the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

This is where the above posted government shutdown makes it real for the military to take over and justice be served. I find it really interesting the military base in Guantanamo has greatly expanded its judicial infrastructure there. I've been to Gitmo and recall there not being much there at all. It's now a colossal development of what I once saw.

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– Slechta5614 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Great comment fren.

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– proforma1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'll bet it has changed a lot since I was there, 1970 to 1971, I served tours of 5 months at a time for a total of 15 months. I was on both sides of the island and it was pretty sparse, to say the least.

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– Tewdryg 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

From what I could gather from your writing is that it didn't acknowledge very little of what I wrote.

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Former editorial cartoonist Pat Oliphant made a cartoon showing Henry Kissinger explaining "How we need more of these". He points to a muscle clad individual with a very tiny head.

This describes the military. Military Intelligence is just another wing of the CIA. It bridges the brain (CIA/Intel Agencies/5-Eyes) with the muscle. The Pentagon carries out the orders of the DS that's formulated from the many round tables. The political venue we see is a face that's put on it along with the narrative.

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– Hankey77-78 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You think it's the military giving us our chemical showers then ? I don't know who it is but it's real.

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– CHEFF10BRS 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

MILITARY PLANES - not civilian planes . . .

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– Hankey77-78 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

No disagreement from me I guess who else would be doing this ? I notice in certain areas around here they just seem to launch seemingly from the ground and go almost straight up before arcing. They appear to launch from a remote location.

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– CHEFF10BRS 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Southern California - two way traffic - Vandenberg to 29 palms - and back ! Shit show starts at sunrise , and end's at sunset. "Like Clock Work".

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