I am going to updoot you just for the sake of negating downvotes. This is a discussion, and worthy of dialogue (I.e. both sides of the conversation). As much as I agree with your viewpoint, didn’t the Pence’s get one of the white envelopes at HW Bush’s funeral?
That should be all the explanation we need; even though we still don’t know what was in those envelopes,….. and I do hope at some point of this timeline, we anons do get answers for things like those envelopes (and J6 footage, and 9/11, and jfk assassination,……). We deserve to know the truth!
Bullseye. Don't understand OP's reasoning for including his wife as defence at all. No one ever said his wife was a devout Christian, and this ordeal makes no sense. Pence acts as a follower of Christ, so do many, clearly he's DS and forced to play his roll, obviously his wife has to as well lol. That was more for the board to see, but regarding you Inidaho. Q said when questioned on the envelopes that it was their promise to "counter", I'd love to know the contents as well, but it's clear that everyone who received one are DS.
I dont see how its "clear" that he is deep state and forced to play his role at all based on the limited information we have and pure speculation. Anons are supposed to be better than this. There is no reason for us to pass judgement at this time and also no proof just a 'feeling". He very may well be a deep state satanist but this is supposition and not 'clear' at all.
Whats important is that Trump knows whats what. We can save our judgements for when the credits roll. I have my suspicions but these arent concrete facts.
For the record I negged nobody above even though I believe they are replying using emotion and not facts.
Don't understand OP's reasoning for including his wife as defence at all.
I would Not defend anyone I do Not know well personally IRL for years. - You read my statements wrong. The parts I bolded speaks about myself & any mother who lives like I do.
Obama claimed to be a Christian, do you believe him?
That beast from hell who vowed to "fundamentally Change/transform the USA".
The instant he said that I knew he was up to No good. And tried to warn others, which is how I found out they were demonRats. Anybody who voted for him, no matter how much they were "being helpful", was Not trusted anymore.
I've read through your replies, you have to be trolling at this point. When was it a fact that she's a true CHRISTIAN woman,who said that? We know both sides are corrupt to shit, most republicans put on the "God fearing Christian family man/woman", yet still corrupt, as Q said. How is it so hard for you to understand that Pence + Wife are deep state, regardless of what front they put on and what they preach?
Since these concerns arose from the responses in this thread in past 12 hours, - instead of starting another post I ask here. Would you Moderators u/catsfive or u/bubble_bursts & any one else please answer:
Rules here say "Our community is focused on helping ourselves and others walk away from the programming, and return our governments to "by the people, for the people!" ---- in light of that
What is the purpose of Sticky a post of Sincere Inquiry here?
Usually when an adult does Not understand what was asked or commented, a Reasonable adult will ASK for clarification so conversation can proceed. Not in this post. Instead : Why are OP-questions & responses Downvoted to -4 ?, HOW is that even remotely "helping" ??
I have self-deleted me which is ridiculous, because it defeats the reason for Why I asked this post in the 1st. place.
When due to Respondents ego, no Courteous conversations here are possible, what other Internet sites do you suggest?
Looks like you deleted the comment that caused a lot of contraversy (specifically whether it implies you had personal knowledge of their family). Cant really help you there, but:
What is the purpose of Sticky a post of Sincere Inquiry here?
Don't specifically know for this post, but in general since this is a research board, anything worth digging into is stickied so Anons can get their collective noggin's going.
Usually when an adult does Not understand what was asked or commented, a Reasonable adult will ASK for clarification so conversation can proceed. Not in this post. Instead : Why are OP-questions & responses Downvoted to -4 ?, HOW is that even remotely "helping" ??
If people downvoted your comments, it usually means they didnt consider your comment sincere (amongst other things). You have to ask the people who downvoted why they did it. However, looking at other comments, I am sure you can surmise the reason if you are open to it.
Downvotes do not define you. So don't let it bother you. Downvotes can even mean you brough up a really controversial point, and people are thrashing it out. This is ultimately good for the board.
I have self-deleted me which is ridiculous, because it defeats the reason for Why I asked this post in the 1st. place.
You shouldn't have.
When due to Respondents ego, no Courteous conversations here are possible, what other Internet sites do you suggest?
If any respondent breaks the sidebar rules, you can deport them. Other than that, you just have to learn to coexist with people who might greatly disagree with you.
You have to ask the people who downvoted why they did it.
As you know, unless a poster honestly admits "Downvoting every 1 of your responses" as was done here, there's no way to know, so why did you say to ask specific dividuals?
Looking at other comments, I am sure you can surmise the reason if you are open to it.
The why was obvious immediately = guys miss-interpreted/miss-read my statement, which I then tried to clarify by specifically explaining that NO true Christian lady & in her Right mind, would ever be a satanist. --- And that this refers to myself, & other Christian ladies who as well live like I do".
If any guy even remotely cared to understand, they easily can do so, Or they can bother to ask for clarification. None did.
So what they taught in this post here : an OP does not matter , only their buddies... do, as evidenced by their +32 upvotes, while OP's missunderstood comments are downvoted to -6. ---> Thus the message clearly is : do NOT think to ask any questions here, & if you dare to comment you will Instantly be taught you are Not welcome.
Downvotes do not define you. So don't let it bother you.
Having spent my primary childhood in Europe, when sent to USA obviously I was never a 'normie', for even as a young teen the differences in primary lifestyle facets were stark. Shortly I was enlisted to spend 40 years in acute medicine Awakening... others. Increasingly with the USA in a drowning mess, I ventured here for just 2 questions, testing waters as it were for others who I know still living as normies who hate social media. --- I thought If it goes well here, I would Invite them to GAW (not to be downvoted into oblivion), but rather be further Awakened.
Just stating a fact. No one can explain why someone else downvoted. So no point asking us.
do NOT think to ask any questions here
Your question was never an honest question, but rather an opinion veiled as a question. That is the root cause of all the downvotes.
I would Invite them to GAW (not to be downvoted into oblivion), but rather be further Awakened.
Don't invite anyone who you think will get offended by downvotes.
And while you can keep arguing with me all you want, I do believe I have answered all your questions as best as I can. If you dont like the answers you hear, I can't really help.
Your question was never an honest question, but rather an opinion veiled as a question. That is the root cause of all the downvotes.
Never heard that before. -- And It's well known that religious deception/corruption predates all others, so with Dave's repeated statements of Trump saying how "deep, far & wide" corruption is , thus how to connect them came across confused?. -- But to point blank judge that my question was "never an honest question", what was your thought process?
Interesting. What you claim is either you have 1st hand knowledge of his private life.
There is many stories about pence. Yet we do not need to go there. We are all human, including Pence.
Peter denied Jesus 3 times just as Jesus told Peter he would do. Jesus forgave Peter too.
So is Pence a Peter or a Judas?
In the USA on the right side there is always Christian’s and atheists mixed together. Both love freedom. Today in the USA on the left they are about neither and they show both atheists and Christian’s they suck.
What the GOP and Pence done is failed Christian’s and atheists at the same time. Lies and deception.
Pence will either repent or continue in his fantasy of being the image he believes he deserves/ego.
They went to far this last decade for people to not see their corruption. They display as a badge of honor and that is their reward.
You claimed his wife is a Christian and she would not put up with Mike if he was such and such.
That’s what you claimed.
In reality unless you personally know someone how would know that?
If you idolize someone into a statue in your brain then you would see only what you want.
This is all on you. I do not have that hive mind mentality.. maybe let’s say that Lego Movie; Emmet mentality. What I do have is anyone can have their own way of processing and forming opinions.
To claim Mike and his wife are Christians and yet we can see so much they have lied about and most likely deceived about only puts them in the category of politician first and foremost.
Hearing is not facts. They are only hearing. When they start doing and acting strange that start lining up with the heading it is a time to reflect.
To me neither of them mean anything to me. They seem to mean a lot to you and that makes it appear you have a very personal insight.
All these people are only people. Trump is a person. Mike is a person.
My question is what if?
What if a rich man (we call them elites now) did what God wanted him to do? How would the world treat that man?
Now ask yourself how is the world treating Mike and how is the world treating Trump?
Mike is trying to fit in with the world and be loved by the world and Trump is hated by the world.
To fully or better comprehend my outlook—I believe in a world of 8 billion people the entirety of the USA and arguably Western civilization is hated by the world. While many within our culture (Mike) also hate what freedom God has given us in the USA and the western culture.
What causes this hatred? Why does Mike hate those who took him to his perched top where he looks down onto us as if he is the chosen?
The few is the USA.
300 million”ish to 8 billion people is like a fly to a horse. Yet with God we will continue. Without God we will end.
You claimed his wife is a Christian and she would not put up with Mike if he was such and such. That’s what you claimed.
Your claim re what I did is per evidence, False. I did No such thing. Read both my statements including my response to the moderator I pinged.
In reality unless you personally know someone how would know that? If you idolize someone into a statue in your brain then you would see only what you want.
True, that is exactly what you did = "you saw only what you want."
Accusing another person Falsely of something they are innocent of, is wrong.
This is all on you. I do not have that hive mind mentality.
As a German immigrant, I did not arrive in the USA as a young teen with any sort of ignorant " hive mind mentality " -- and Thank God, I never accepted nor therefore adopt such.
Furthermore, I idolize No-one. Rather because of my Loving personal relationship with God, I worship Jesus & him Only. Christ is my Creator, Father, Savior, Best-friend, Teacher +Resurrector, iow my ALL.
We all have ingrained prejudice. This is why Paul says he dies daily. Everyday we should reflect onto ourselves and ask is there something I am interpreting that is possibly wrong.
If you are missing that ability. Then that too is a you problem.
You are not understanding lots and in other areas you may know more than others.
It seems on the surface you are no different than one of these leftists. Indeed you most likely vote for leftists. This is something that is telling.
To me you do whatever you want to do and say.
;)
None of us are perfect.
I hate politics. My question is if one claims to be a Christian—how can that one vote for anyone who is a democrat politician.
Then to claim the lesser of 2 evils is also nonsense.
People hear things from other people and think they know the absolute truth, when in fact we don't. We are in an information war so lies are used as a weapon on both sides. Hopefully we will learn a lot of the truth soon. Meanwhile, there is a chance Pence is a white hat occasionally acting like a black hat acting like a white hat, or the opposite. We will have to deal with a certain degree of uncertainty or else put our trust in sources that may or may not be trustworthy.
I agree. Some things we simply won’t learn until we’ve passed through it. I am looking forward to all the books, especially President Trump’s book! What I do know is that unless “sauce” comes with a sweeping statement, it’s simply speculation. End of conversation. I do not know if the Pence’s are faithful Christians.
I am still not convinced that Pence TRULY betrayed Trump and that it isn't all part of the show.
That said... If it IS part of the show, my part in that show is to publicly oppose his run and call him a traitor at every opportunity.
Me too, because if he had sent the vote back, it would have been kind of crazy at the time. Plus, I can't imagine Biden wasn't supposed to be presiding over this disaster. It just seems too integral to the plan. The 5 year deltas we are seeing now that are UNMISTAKEABLE are nonsensical if Biden is not fake POTUS.
What put me a little more firmly on this side of the fence was actually his most recent ad. I'm supposed to believe not one person involved in that ad noticed he never started pumping gas and the machine was beeping nonstop? I mean sure politics are full of dumb and out of touch people but some things are just too ridiculous.
I agree with that, I think Pence spoke poorly on the context. But given that's what everyone understood it by. For all intents and purposes, whether he likes it or not or intended to. It's what he said to everyone.
It seems to me though that if one is running to be POTUS, tanks being given to an obviously crooked Ukraine to fight a proxy war with Russia, AND crumbling US cities would both be a concern.
IF the Plan was from the very beginning to do a sting operation that led to Biden being in the White House and essentially destroying himself and the democrat party in the process, THEN it is entirely possible that Pence is on the Patriot's side and just had to play his part as a RINO in order for the plan to be carried out.
That seems like a long shot at this point, but still entirely possible. I don't think any of this smoke and mirrors stuff is happening with everybody showing their true selves.
That being said, you seem to think it's impossible for someone like the Pence's to lie to the public and put on a front when it comes to their religious beliefs... But in case you haven't noticed, that seems to be common practice around the DC political crowd. We keep finding out many of them are occultists and satanists, who train their entire lives in the skills of deception.
I HOPE you are right and he and his wife are true Believers. IF you are, then he is probably playing a part. If not, then all evidence is pointing to him acting as a cabal lackey.
He really shot himself in the foot with that gas station clip. Reminds me of Dukakis' tank moment. All other observations aside, this guy, IMHO, is bad news. There's just something about him that doesn't set right.
Let’s set aside our endless debates about whether Pence is a white hat or a black hat. The truth is none of us know for sure.
Let’s think about Mike Pence and his wife’s public persona. They do a good job of presenting themselves as Christians, conservatives, and Republicans. He actually comes across as boring with no trace of noticeable charisma.
Now, what if he is actually part of the NWO and Deep State? What if is is actually an evil person? What happens if this is true and it is all made public? That would shock conservatives and liberals alike! It would wake a lot of people up!
Coincidence Election 2024 is on V for Vendetta Night?
Does V for Vendetta story / plan have a one year duration?
This November 5th to next year? Ends on Election Night?
Q said this will be on their time table. They knew this day would come.
This November 5th is 2222 days since Trump said “you’ll find out.” 2222= V V
Interstellar IMAX has its 9th anniversary on this Guy Fawkes Night. Murph’s watch is Q watch. When Trump wins on Election Night next year, think ‘Follow the Watch’ from Interstellar. Trump is Cooper. He gives the watch. TARS is military, a Marine combat robot. Cooper winds the watch. TARS feeds the data. Murph REMEMBERS.
Tenth Anniversary of Interstellar is on Election 2024.
This V for Vendetta night is 2199 days since Q started. Think Matrix. 2199= 733*3
What happened on Q day 733? Day 1466?
REMEMBER Remember
This V for Vendetta night is 2222 days since Trump said “You’ll Find Out” when asked about the Storm. 2222= VV = V for Vendetta
Storm in V for Vendetta? Did V LARP?
“That wasn’t real!?”
Why? Did it work?
Did V have access to FATE super computer?
Movies in theaters this November?
Napoleon: Coup, “Shall we vote?”
Hunger Games: “Enjoy the Show!”
Dune:Part 2 “All my dreams end in horror, … because I gain [control]”.
Yes. I may not follow the religious beliefs of other Americans, but our Constitutional Republic that our Founders envisioned upheld an individual’s rights. Our inalienable rights endowed by our creator.
Would 1 of the moderators here, with actual Real information please shed some light for this question. ~ I asked it because I don't understand. Thank you.
We are free to know people on how they act. The act he did requires acknowledgment.
To me though…. When he debated with K on the tube. That fly in his hair is not a real fly.
That fly is a sign. Maybe you do not know many others have that fly and what is interesting is they never talk about the fly.. yet they all know the fly was there.
You are free to have your opinion too. Mike was bred to be in the position he is in. He is given a script and he acts on that script. The script was tailored towards the right but he to me seems like a wolf in sheeps clothing and yet can he be redeemed or was it on purpose?
He openly said to the world we in the USA are not his concern. He said it openly.
His actions of late tells me everything. He allows the msm m, he is following orders about The Sound of Freedom, he bashes Christianity and he says he is a Christian?
He stands with those who openly claim abortion is good.
That is him. That is only a portion of what I see with him.
If Trump wanted GOP support he would have to choose wisely from a vast pool of corrupt characters to choose as VP.
If Trump had inside Intelligence from those who recruited him to run then Pence was the least damaged. Sure, Pence was compromised with his escapades with a 16 year old boy and being a closet case. But none of us knew that back in 1015-16, I'm sure Trump did.
I'd like to think Trump knew he had a viper on his team but he was the sweetest smelling turd in the bowl, Pence was well liked in Indiana, served conservatively and had no scandals that the public were aware of.
Politics is tit for tat, Trump had to choose a VP the GOP would approve of.
It was early when Trump was relying on the Republican party and their choices. They told him taking Pence would represent the middle of the country, the rural areas and the evangelicals. So he did.
And then he made Reince Priebus the chief of staff! On and on taking their suggestions and they were all traitors.
The very 1st. thought to your response was asking "is that why? President Trump said "I didn't even know how far+deep+wide the Evil was in our country" (or words to that effect)
My take is that the GOP would not give him money or any support for the general election if he didn’t take traitor pence as VP. Also explains why he made some of his cabinet picks. Between a rock and a hard place.
In some cases, he knew full well what he was getting. But he was also able to control them by keeping them close, keeping them out of critical meetings, and limiting their access to information.
Someone missed the memo about Trump having the military provide intel on the DS, and hates the idea that 5D chess might include promoting and using the players to expose them and their agendas.
You can message the moderators , check the side bar for a link that will let you message them. This appears under the disclaimer, and under the Moderator Heading.
Yes, I know this. Yet whoever stickied this thread is obviously a Mod here, yes? - So thinking they have Factual info... I asked them to Answer, sister :) What is your opinion?
True, stickies can only be done by Mods. Which mod? I don't know. If any would have the information - However, some information it may be better to keep concealed until we have more evidence for it, one way or the other.
Looking at things in parallels, Trump is no Jesus but God uses people as instruments to convey his message clearly.
Jesus knew Judas would betray him, but in doing so, there was a rebirth for humanity similar to the one we are experiencing right now. The ending is just the beginning.
Hasn't it always been the case that VP was DS insurance against any candidate that might go against DS directives? You wouldn't be able to run for president if your VP wasn't 100% controlled by the bad guys. At least that's always been my perception of things.
I think the answer to your question is no. But, he was discovered to be something he wasn’t portraying himself as and they needed to vet him to be sure. He may just be a dumbshit too. That’s quite possible.
If all is not as it seems and President Trump is controlling the narrative in order to show the people our corrupt system, then he certainly could speak against or make fun of some folks as cover. My gut tells me some of the bad guys are good and some good guys are really bad. So, I leave room for that possibility.
I think he could have changed history by trying, what Trump asked him to do in 2020.
Main-confusion =
Did President Trump ask Pence to NOT certify any Election-results, & instead send them back to EACH state to be Redone ? , OR
Did President Trump say to certify the Election?, so by Design of The Plan to RESCUE our country the people by their own experiences... would WAKE -UP.
TRUMP appointed PENCE in charge of vital OPERATIONS to COUNTER National Security Threats/Risks to Election Critical Infrastructure:
•SPACE COUNCIL.
•PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION INTEGRITY COMMISSION
•COVID TASK FORCE PENCE was CIVILIAN in charge— he chose CHRIS MILLER as MILITARY.
DJT-“We’re going to have AIR FORCE & we’re going to have SPACE FORCE…one year ago, I revived the National Space Council, & put EXACTLY THE RIGHT MAN IN CHARGE, & that’s our friend Mike Pence.”
Pence in charge of The National Space Council. And most think he is a traitor. Trump posts a thank you to General Kellogg for his endorsement. Talked about how Kellogg knows the people (in DC) better than almost anybody. Then in the next sentence added how he worked directly with Pence. I read it to mean Pence is solid. anons
IF you are right , then why 2 months ago, did Mike Pence say: Trump "should never be President of the United States again" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BuBxN0dwoM Answer that .
He's a DS pedo puppet and traitor in that order
He's a Satanist, DS pedo puppet and traitor - in that order!
100%
Unless she is a satanist too.
um, I specifically said NO true Christian lady & in her Right mind. Both
of those EXclude a wife or any other lady being a satanist, Agreed?
I am going to updoot you just for the sake of negating downvotes. This is a discussion, and worthy of dialogue (I.e. both sides of the conversation). As much as I agree with your viewpoint, didn’t the Pence’s get one of the white envelopes at HW Bush’s funeral?
That should be all the explanation we need; even though we still don’t know what was in those envelopes,….. and I do hope at some point of this timeline, we anons do get answers for things like those envelopes (and J6 footage, and 9/11, and jfk assassination,……). We deserve to know the truth!
Bullseye. Don't understand OP's reasoning for including his wife as defence at all. No one ever said his wife was a devout Christian, and this ordeal makes no sense. Pence acts as a follower of Christ, so do many, clearly he's DS and forced to play his roll, obviously his wife has to as well lol. That was more for the board to see, but regarding you Inidaho. Q said when questioned on the envelopes that it was their promise to "counter", I'd love to know the contents as well, but it's clear that everyone who received one are DS.
I dont see how its "clear" that he is deep state and forced to play his role at all based on the limited information we have and pure speculation. Anons are supposed to be better than this. There is no reason for us to pass judgement at this time and also no proof just a 'feeling". He very may well be a deep state satanist but this is supposition and not 'clear' at all.
Whats important is that Trump knows whats what. We can save our judgements for when the credits roll. I have my suspicions but these arent concrete facts.
For the record I negged nobody above even though I believe they are replying using emotion and not facts.
I would Not defend anyone I do Not know well personally IRL for years. - You read my statements wrong. The parts I bolded speaks about myself & any mother who lives like I do.
Got it.
She was involved with the child molesting, watch the wives.
Obama claimed to be a Christian, do you believe him?
Satanist will use masks to hide their identity to fulfill their evil destiny.
Have you ever heard the name Tory Smith?
He uploaded video that claimed he watched Mike Pence and his wife rape and murder children. He was dead couple months later.
https://steverotter.com/deep-state-child-trafficking-and-mike-pence/
TORY SMITH MYSTERIOUSLY DIED TWO MONTHS AFTER MAKING THIS VIDEO ABOUT MIKE PENCE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dN275tZPtuA9/
Tory claimed he was poisoned in one of his videos.
Here is the last video he made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh4sno9WgsU
That beast from hell who vowed to "fundamentally Change/transform the USA".
The instant he said that I knew he was up to No good. And tried to warn others, which is how I found out they were demonRats. Anybody who voted for him, no matter how much they were "being helpful", was Not trusted anymore.
I've read through your replies, you have to be trolling at this point. When was it a fact that she's a true CHRISTIAN woman,who said that? We know both sides are corrupt to shit, most republicans put on the "God fearing Christian family man/woman", yet still corrupt, as Q said. How is it so hard for you to understand that Pence + Wife are deep state, regardless of what front they put on and what they preach?
Since these concerns arose from the responses in this thread in past 12 hours, - instead of starting another post I ask here. Would you Moderators u/catsfive or u/bubble_bursts & any one else please answer:
Rules here say "Our community is focused on helping ourselves and others walk away from the programming, and return our governments to "by the people, for the people!" ---- in light of that
What is the purpose of Sticky a post of Sincere Inquiry here?
Usually when an adult does Not understand what was asked or commented, a Reasonable adult will ASK for clarification so conversation can proceed. Not in this post. Instead : Why are OP-questions & responses Downvoted to -4 ?, HOW is that even remotely "helping" ??
I have self-deleted me which is ridiculous, because it defeats the reason for Why I asked this post in the 1st. place.
Thank you.
Looks like you deleted the comment that caused a lot of contraversy (specifically whether it implies you had personal knowledge of their family). Cant really help you there, but:
Don't specifically know for this post, but in general since this is a research board, anything worth digging into is stickied so Anons can get their collective noggin's going.
If people downvoted your comments, it usually means they didnt consider your comment sincere (amongst other things). You have to ask the people who downvoted why they did it. However, looking at other comments, I am sure you can surmise the reason if you are open to it.
Downvotes do not define you. So don't let it bother you. Downvotes can even mean you brough up a really controversial point, and people are thrashing it out. This is ultimately good for the board.
You shouldn't have.
If any respondent breaks the sidebar rules, you can deport them. Other than that, you just have to learn to coexist with people who might greatly disagree with you.
Thanks for your response. Allow me to respond re
As you know, unless a poster honestly admits "Downvoting every 1 of your responses" as was done here, there's no way to know, so why did you say to ask specific dividuals?
The why was obvious immediately = guys miss-interpreted/miss-read my statement, which I then tried to clarify by specifically explaining that NO true Christian lady & in her Right mind, would ever be a satanist. --- And that this refers to myself, & other Christian ladies who as well live like I do".
If any guy even remotely cared to understand, they easily can do so, Or they can bother to ask for clarification. None did.
So what they taught in this post here : an OP does not matter , only their buddies... do, as evidenced by their +32 upvotes, while OP's missunderstood comments are downvoted to -6. ---> Thus the message clearly is : do NOT think to ask any questions here, & if you dare to comment you will Instantly be taught you are Not welcome.
Having spent my primary childhood in Europe, when sent to USA obviously I was never a 'normie', for even as a young teen the differences in primary lifestyle facets were stark. Shortly I was enlisted to spend 40 years in acute medicine Awakening... others. Increasingly with the USA in a drowning mess, I ventured here for just 2 questions, testing waters as it were for others who I know still living as normies who hate social media. --- I thought If it goes well here, I would Invite them to GAW (not to be downvoted into oblivion), but rather be further Awakened.
Just stating a fact. No one can explain why someone else downvoted. So no point asking us.
Your question was never an honest question, but rather an opinion veiled as a question. That is the root cause of all the downvotes.
Don't invite anyone who you think will get offended by downvotes.
And while you can keep arguing with me all you want, I do believe I have answered all your questions as best as I can. If you dont like the answers you hear, I can't really help.
Never heard that before. -- And It's well known that religious deception/corruption predates all others, so with Dave's repeated statements of Trump saying how "deep, far & wide" corruption is , thus how to connect them came across confused?. -- But to point blank judge that my question was "never an honest question", what was your thought process?
Interesting. What you claim is either you have 1st hand knowledge of his private life.
There is many stories about pence. Yet we do not need to go there. We are all human, including Pence.
Peter denied Jesus 3 times just as Jesus told Peter he would do. Jesus forgave Peter too.
So is Pence a Peter or a Judas?
In the USA on the right side there is always Christian’s and atheists mixed together. Both love freedom. Today in the USA on the left they are about neither and they show both atheists and Christian’s they suck.
What the GOP and Pence done is failed Christian’s and atheists at the same time. Lies and deception.
Pence will either repent or continue in his fantasy of being the image he believes he deserves/ego.
They went to far this last decade for people to not see their corruption. They display as a badge of honor and that is their reward.
First I heard of Pence is when he was picked as VP. -
Next I heard he "certified" the entire 2020 Election.....which was OFF to me.
Then I heard all sorts of things on both sides & became increasingly confused.
so Explain... how I have 1st. hand knowledge about Pence??
You claimed his wife is a Christian and she would not put up with Mike if he was such and such.
That’s what you claimed.
In reality unless you personally know someone how would know that?
If you idolize someone into a statue in your brain then you would see only what you want.
This is all on you. I do not have that hive mind mentality.. maybe let’s say that Lego Movie; Emmet mentality. What I do have is anyone can have their own way of processing and forming opinions.
To claim Mike and his wife are Christians and yet we can see so much they have lied about and most likely deceived about only puts them in the category of politician first and foremost.
Hearing is not facts. They are only hearing. When they start doing and acting strange that start lining up with the heading it is a time to reflect.
To me neither of them mean anything to me. They seem to mean a lot to you and that makes it appear you have a very personal insight.
All these people are only people. Trump is a person. Mike is a person.
My question is what if?
What if a rich man (we call them elites now) did what God wanted him to do? How would the world treat that man?
Now ask yourself how is the world treating Mike and how is the world treating Trump?
Mike is trying to fit in with the world and be loved by the world and Trump is hated by the world.
To fully or better comprehend my outlook—I believe in a world of 8 billion people the entirety of the USA and arguably Western civilization is hated by the world. While many within our culture (Mike) also hate what freedom God has given us in the USA and the western culture.
What causes this hatred? Why does Mike hate those who took him to his perched top where he looks down onto us as if he is the chosen?
The few is the USA.
300 million”ish to 8 billion people is like a fly to a horse. Yet with God we will continue. Without God we will end.
Your claim re what I did is per evidence, False. I did No such thing. Read both my statements including my response to the moderator I pinged.
True, that is exactly what you did = "you saw only what you want."
Accusing another person Falsely of something they are innocent of, is wrong.
As a German immigrant, I did not arrive in the USA as a young teen with any sort of ignorant " hive mind mentality " -- and Thank God, I never accepted nor therefore adopt such.
Furthermore, I idolize No-one. Rather because of my Loving personal relationship with God, I worship Jesus & him Only. Christ is my Creator, Father, Savior, Best-friend, Teacher +Resurrector, iow my ALL.
We all have ingrained prejudice. This is why Paul says he dies daily. Everyday we should reflect onto ourselves and ask is there something I am interpreting that is possibly wrong.
If you are missing that ability. Then that too is a you problem.
You are not understanding lots and in other areas you may know more than others.
It seems on the surface you are no different than one of these leftists. Indeed you most likely vote for leftists. This is something that is telling.
To me you do whatever you want to do and say.
;)
None of us are perfect.
I hate politics. My question is if one claims to be a Christian—how can that one vote for anyone who is a democrat politician.
Then to claim the lesser of 2 evils is also nonsense.
This video may help.
Chris Miller Thanks VP Pence for Efforts in Most Complex Military Operation in History?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDUVFRXGsA
Which includes D-Day and the Manhattan Project. So, huuuuge.
People hear things from other people and think they know the absolute truth, when in fact we don't. We are in an information war so lies are used as a weapon on both sides. Hopefully we will learn a lot of the truth soon. Meanwhile, there is a chance Pence is a white hat occasionally acting like a black hat acting like a white hat, or the opposite. We will have to deal with a certain degree of uncertainty or else put our trust in sources that may or may not be trustworthy.
your comment makes alot of good sense so Upvoted it.
I agree. Some things we simply won’t learn until we’ve passed through it. I am looking forward to all the books, especially President Trump’s book! What I do know is that unless “sauce” comes with a sweeping statement, it’s simply speculation. End of conversation. I do not know if the Pence’s are faithful Christians.
The fly don't lie...
lmao. good one!
I am still not convinced that Pence TRULY betrayed Trump and that it isn't all part of the show.
That said... If it IS part of the show, my part in that show is to publicly oppose his run and call him a traitor at every opportunity.
Me too, because if he had sent the vote back, it would have been kind of crazy at the time. Plus, I can't imagine Biden wasn't supposed to be presiding over this disaster. It just seems too integral to the plan. The 5 year deltas we are seeing now that are UNMISTAKEABLE are nonsensical if Biden is not fake POTUS.
I’ve gone back and forth like you. If he has been playing a role, he should get the best actor award of the decade!
What put me a little more firmly on this side of the fence was actually his most recent ad. I'm supposed to believe not one person involved in that ad noticed he never started pumping gas and the machine was beeping nonstop? I mean sure politics are full of dumb and out of touch people but some things are just too ridiculous.
That is not my concern.
What is not your concern?
Quoting Pence where he said the collapsing US Cities weren't his concern in context him pushing Ukraine War funding.
Tucker ran 2 questions together. Pence was answering a question bout tanks, "that's not my concern". ppl tend to hear what they wanna hear
I agree with that, I think Pence spoke poorly on the context. But given that's what everyone understood it by. For all intents and purposes, whether he likes it or not or intended to. It's what he said to everyone.
we r a truth community n imo it does matter that we do r best to get accurate info. what others spew i ignore
It seems to me though that if one is running to be POTUS, tanks being given to an obviously crooked Ukraine to fight a proxy war with Russia, AND crumbling US cities would both be a concern.
https://rumble.com/v306t80-pence-traitor-america-that-is-not-my-concern-.html
Horrible !, & straight from the beast's mouth. No wonder 10 white envelopes were in their folders, or so I read. -
I hope we may know the contents of those envelopes for sure one day.
So long as deserved Justice is served to all 10, does it really matter what was in each envelope?
Yes it matters. If I pitched in to pay for it I want to know what I'm buying.
Enough of the secrecy bullsh*t on both sides IMHO.
IF the Plan was from the very beginning to do a sting operation that led to Biden being in the White House and essentially destroying himself and the democrat party in the process, THEN it is entirely possible that Pence is on the Patriot's side and just had to play his part as a RINO in order for the plan to be carried out.
That seems like a long shot at this point, but still entirely possible. I don't think any of this smoke and mirrors stuff is happening with everybody showing their true selves.
That being said, you seem to think it's impossible for someone like the Pence's to lie to the public and put on a front when it comes to their religious beliefs... But in case you haven't noticed, that seems to be common practice around the DC political crowd. We keep finding out many of them are occultists and satanists, who train their entire lives in the skills of deception.
I HOPE you are right and he and his wife are true Believers. IF you are, then he is probably playing a part. If not, then all evidence is pointing to him acting as a cabal lackey.
He really shot himself in the foot with that gas station clip. Reminds me of Dukakis' tank moment. All other observations aside, this guy, IMHO, is bad news. There's just something about him that doesn't set right.
My thoughts are that they always choose a milquetoast VP to avoid assassination.
not sure about that, but just saw he’s being heckled at the Iowa state fair, thought that was interesting.
Let’s set aside our endless debates about whether Pence is a white hat or a black hat. The truth is none of us know for sure.
Let’s think about Mike Pence and his wife’s public persona. They do a good job of presenting themselves as Christians, conservatives, and Republicans. He actually comes across as boring with no trace of noticeable charisma.
Now, what if he is actually part of the NWO and Deep State? What if is is actually an evil person? What happens if this is true and it is all made public? That would shock conservatives and liberals alike! It would wake a lot of people up!
Coincidence Election 2024 is on V for Vendetta Night?
Does V for Vendetta story / plan have a one year duration?
This November 5th to next year? Ends on Election Night?
Q said this will be on their time table. They knew this day would come.
This November 5th is 2222 days since Trump said “you’ll find out.” 2222= V V
Interstellar IMAX has its 9th anniversary on this Guy Fawkes Night. Murph’s watch is Q watch. When Trump wins on Election Night next year, think ‘Follow the Watch’ from Interstellar. Trump is Cooper. He gives the watch. TARS is military, a Marine combat robot. Cooper winds the watch. TARS feeds the data. Murph REMEMBERS.
Tenth Anniversary of Interstellar is on Election 2024.
This V for Vendetta night is 2199 days since Q started. Think Matrix. 2199= 733*3 What happened on Q day 733? Day 1466? REMEMBER Remember
This V for Vendetta night is 2222 days since Trump said “You’ll Find Out” when asked about the Storm. 2222= VV = V for Vendetta
Storm in V for Vendetta? Did V LARP?
“That wasn’t real!?”
Why? Did it work?
Did V have access to FATE super computer?
Movies in theaters this November?
Napoleon: Coup, “Shall we vote?”
Hunger Games: “Enjoy the Show!”
Dune:Part 2 “All my dreams end in horror, … because I gain [control]”.
Interesting how being "an American" didn't make his list.
Yes. I may not follow the religious beliefs of other Americans, but our Constitutional Republic that our Founders envisioned upheld an individual’s rights. Our inalienable rights endowed by our creator.
Would 1 of the moderators here, with actual Real information please shed some light for this question. ~ I asked it because I don't understand. Thank you.
We are free to know people on how they act. The act he did requires acknowledgment.
To me though…. When he debated with K on the tube. That fly in his hair is not a real fly.
That fly is a sign. Maybe you do not know many others have that fly and what is interesting is they never talk about the fly.. yet they all know the fly was there.
You are free to have your opinion too. Mike was bred to be in the position he is in. He is given a script and he acts on that script. The script was tailored towards the right but he to me seems like a wolf in sheeps clothing and yet can he be redeemed or was it on purpose?
He openly said to the world we in the USA are not his concern. He said it openly.
The context of his comment matters; he did not say the US is not his concern.
This. Pence was responding to the first part of Tucker's question. Tucker asked multiple questions, one after another.
Everyone keeps saying this, listened to the whole thing unedited myself and be absolute said US is not his concern re: Ukraine aid.
Explain what you think he meant
His actions of late tells me everything. He allows the msm m, he is following orders about The Sound of Freedom, he bashes Christianity and he says he is a Christian?
He stands with those who openly claim abortion is good.
That is him. That is only a portion of what I see with him.
If Trump wanted GOP support he would have to choose wisely from a vast pool of corrupt characters to choose as VP.
If Trump had inside Intelligence from those who recruited him to run then Pence was the least damaged. Sure, Pence was compromised with his escapades with a 16 year old boy and being a closet case. But none of us knew that back in 1015-16, I'm sure Trump did.
I'd like to think Trump knew he had a viper on his team but he was the sweetest smelling turd in the bowl, Pence was well liked in Indiana, served conservatively and had no scandals that the public were aware of.
Politics is tit for tat, Trump had to choose a VP the GOP would approve of.
This is a logical response. Thanks for sharing.
I’ll add Karen Pence got (and hid) an envelope at Papi’s funeral, not Mike: https://rumble.com/v1ph0p9-they-know-everything-i-am-sorry.html
It was early when Trump was relying on the Republican party and their choices. They told him taking Pence would represent the middle of the country, the rural areas and the evangelicals. So he did. And then he made Reince Priebus the chief of staff! On and on taking their suggestions and they were all traitors.
Prince Rebus
The very 1st. thought to your response was asking "is that why? President Trump said "I didn't even know how far+deep+wide the Evil was in our country" (or words to that effect)
My take is that the GOP would not give him money or any support for the general election if he didn’t take traitor pence as VP. Also explains why he made some of his cabinet picks. Between a rock and a hard place.
So President Trump DID know at the outset? -- And used Pence to Certify the election Results... ?? so that
this entire Deck-of-cards could eventually be Destroyed, & the Traitors be brought to Justice?
In some cases, he knew full well what he was getting. But he was also able to control them by keeping them close, keeping them out of critical meetings, and limiting their access to information.
Someone missed the memo about Trump having the military provide intel on the DS, and hates the idea that 5D chess might include promoting and using the players to expose them and their agendas.
(not pointing at you)
You can message the moderators , check the side bar for a link that will let you message them. This appears under the disclaimer, and under the Moderator Heading.
Yes, I know this. Yet whoever stickied this thread is obviously a Mod here, yes? - So thinking they have Factual info... I asked them to Answer, sister :) What is your opinion?
True, stickies can only be done by Mods. Which mod? I don't know. If any would have the information - However, some information it may be better to keep concealed until we have more evidence for it, one way or the other.
Looking at things in parallels, Trump is no Jesus but God uses people as instruments to convey his message clearly.
Jesus knew Judas would betray him, but in doing so, there was a rebirth for humanity similar to the one we are experiencing right now. The ending is just the beginning.
He was a mole and he was probably involved with Epstein
Hasn't it always been the case that VP was DS insurance against any candidate that might go against DS directives? You wouldn't be able to run for president if your VP wasn't 100% controlled by the bad guys. At least that's always been my perception of things.
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Trump picked just the right type of POS to be his VP. Pence isn’t on our side but was the right man for the job. He performed as expected.
As an avowed atheist I’d unload on this guy, but all I see is lies, lies, and lies. That’s the only power they have; the ability to lie with impunity.
I think the answer to your question is no. But, he was discovered to be something he wasn’t portraying himself as and they needed to vet him to be sure. He may just be a dumbshit too. That’s quite possible.
If all is not as it seems and President Trump is controlling the narrative in order to show the people our corrupt system, then he certainly could speak against or make fun of some folks as cover. My gut tells me some of the bad guys are good and some good guys are really bad. So, I leave room for that possibility.
I guarantee that he silently seethed for years that Trump didn't take the same faggot oaths that he did.
Flies Never Lie.
Main-confusion =
Did President Trump ask Pence to NOT certify any Election-results, & instead send them back to EACH state to be Redone ? , OR
Did President Trump say to certify the Election?, so by Design of The Plan to RESCUE our country the people by their own experiences... would WAKE -UP.
u/#mjpopcorn
TRUMP appointed PENCE in charge of vital OPERATIONS to COUNTER National Security Threats/Risks to Election Critical Infrastructure: •SPACE COUNCIL.
•PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION INTEGRITY COMMISSION
•COVID TASK FORCE PENCE was CIVILIAN in charge— he chose CHRIS MILLER as MILITARY.
DJT-“We’re going to have AIR FORCE & we’re going to have SPACE FORCE…one year ago, I revived the National Space Council, & put EXACTLY THE RIGHT MAN IN CHARGE, & that’s our friend Mike Pence.”
Pence in charge of The National Space Council. And most think he is a traitor. Trump posts a thank you to General Kellogg for his endorsement. Talked about how Kellogg knows the people (in DC) better than almost anybody. Then in the next sentence added how he worked directly with Pence. I read it to mean Pence is solid. anons
IF you are right , then why 2 months ago, did Mike Pence say: Trump "should never be President of the United States again" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BuBxN0dwoM Answer that .
Not sure about Pence, but interesting that these 2020 Election War Game scenarios by Podesta have surfaced:
https://greatawakening.win/p/16c243ErNH/cant-stress-this-enough-john-pod/
Sometimes, knowing who your personal Judas will be, is important. Even better, yet, choosing your own personal Judas.
With the many schemes and games going on: this is quite something.
They’re all still acting. ???