I think I summoned up the question rather well in the title.
Am I nuts in believing this or am I among the roughly 8% that can see beyond the show?
Ok, I have to laugh that sounded too much like the Matrix!
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Thank you
And it's no longer call "the united states inc." It's now called "The White House Office Inc" of which Biden is named "Key Principal". Here's the Dun & Bradstreet
https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.the_white_house_office.a7fa999efb9c7a0b5254eb9f05e32a04.html
You should the look on my wide's face when I tell her this, especially as we're in the UK, since it implies that most Americans have no idea how their country works under the bonnet.
It's actually a similar story here in the UK, the true power levers have been hidden from us with layers upon layers of 'accepted' bullshit.
After all, power resides where people believe it resides.
The clowns control the MSM here so the same Biden voting, mask wearing minions of useless Walmartians are still clueless and even worse, ... they have the right to vote again!
Every purchase from Walmart is a vote for your own destruction.
I'm sorry to hear about your "wide".
Yes, I know it's a typo, but I got a good chuckle from it. ;o)
Yeah these broads get mad when you call them "wides" 🤣🤣🤣
No offense ladies... funny is funny 😉
Caution- WIDE LOAD😂🤣😂
Beep beep beep
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Wow, how did I not see that - and now I can't correct it, thanks :P
I'm glad you missed it, because I needed a laugh. :o)
The glory in imperfection. Only makes you human.
Very high probability Trump is C-I-C and head of “gov’t in exile”, but has delegated C-I-C operational authority to 11 combatant commanders and other operational military commands (like Special Forces). They are likely protecting him. [most common analogy is Phillipines gov’t in exile as 1 person during WW2].
Was 1871 Corp US dissolved already? Possibly. If not it will be soon.
Are we in a “state of war” with “occupying enemy combatants”? It appears so. And this likely means Insurrection Act was likely invoked on 17JAN 2021 as is suspected, giving US military jurisdiction over the Civil and Criminal courts OR as the authority actually running them as military courts.
Key to all of this is recent SCOTUS case from 2015 or 2016 confirming that President and C-I-C are two separate roles. Structure of our gov’t has 3 parts: individuals & states (9th/10th Amend), Const/Fed gov’t (Article II POTUS), and US Military (headed by C-I-C): https://greatawakening.win/p/16b5ze0cKY/part-2-structure-of-the-constitu/c/
Exactly this. I find myself just looking at people everyday thinking you have no fu@king clue do you.
That's not a good thing. It may feel good, but it's not wise to presume. You should get to know people and their stories. You may be surprised what good will towards your fellow Americans will bring you. Go forth and be good. See how you can help someone. Be the change you want to see.
You nailed it. My Full Bird Colonel buddy immediately puts his head in the sand when I get anywhere near these topics. Guess he's too close to the forest to see.
Oh thank God. Me too. Every day! EVERY DAY! It’s nice to know I am not alone.
AND you are NOT alone...everyone thinks that this is all ONE government UNTIL I tell them that there ARE 3 DISTINCT PARTS and NO it is NOT the President, Congress and then the States...and that is when I say: READ THE CONSTITUTION AND ALL OF ITS ARTICLES...that is where the nuggets are buried!!!!!
So what’s going to happen once the US Co. is officially dissolved and we return to the Old Republic? How many laws and constitutional amendments are potentially rolled back because they’re suddenly unconstitutional? How many people are going to end up deported, now that they don’t have the DS protecting them? How on earth do you even broach the reality of this unprecedented situation to a population, as awake as many might be by this point to vote Trump back in, to understand the magnitude of what’s happening?
Lots of deportations coming for sure. I’m currently trying to deport to Venezuela some lawyers and state judges for taking “emoluments from a foreign power” using automatic loss of citizenship from AMENDMENT XIII (1824 re-ratified) and 1965 Immigration Law.
2015 Law of War Manuel to the rescue. Thank you majiceyesqnly!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wdmD3EDyvOiJ/
Carl explained things simply so even this old lady can understand.
Please hear me out before reacting emotionally or brushing me off. You are entitled to your opinion and I'm not stealing it away from you.
Here's my take.
The theory about the US being a for-profit corporation has been circulated on telegram and other platforms since 2020 and has recently picked up support on GAW. It is, however, an even older theory.
The "sovereign citizen" movement has been making this claim for a long time, it is in fact where it originated. It is by far not the only claim that is being made by the self-proclaimed sovereign citizens. They believe that by writing their name on a piece of paper and sending it along with $ 150 to the "postmaster general" they become "sovereign" in the eyes of the law and are then permitted to drive without a license & stop paying taxes, amongst other similarly unfounded beliefs. Their theories are almost always accompanied by a confusing & mistaken explanation about Maritime law, lower- and upper case lettering on government IDs and sometimes "quantum grammar" as well as "Nesara / Gesara".
Conspiracy theory forums have known about and debunked these claims many times over but they sound so good that many people just want them to be true despite the abundant contradictory facts.
I invite you to do your own research by looking into the "sovereign citizen movement" & researching what the term "corporation" truly means in certain legal documents.
For example in this US code about debt collection:
(15)“United States” means— (A)a Federal corporation; (B)an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C)an instrumentality of the United States. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002
There are also countless "debunks" about this topic including the 1871 Act that are well researched.
TLDR; In my opinion, we (people) are mostly ignorant when it comes to legalese and this misunderstanding of the term "corporation" has led to this particular conspiracy theory; sovereign citizen movement perpetuates it.
Good post. Lots of people have gotten themselves into a mess of legal trouble by declaring themselves sovereign citizens
You make a very good point here. This sounds like the law is talking about money a person owes to the United States. And this can be owed in several ways, so
You also make a very good point about needing to be careful about legal langauge. Often laws will have a section like this where they lay out the legal definition of what seems like common words.
Exactly. Too many people think the sole definition of the word "corporation" means a for-profit company/business. Which is inexcusable in this day and age of having the ability to carry around every dictionary known to man in your pocket.
Dictionaries with updated progressive edits, unfortunately.
Then go old school and get a print edition from whichever year you like.
And bigger pockets to carry it in 😀
Some of the Sovereign Citizen stuff is just mind-numbingly ridiculous to me. The lengths people will go to try to get out of paying speeding tickets, child support, or their vehicle registration is insane.
And while those that admire the Sovereign Citizen Movement will go on and on about their lofty ideals, whenever a case of theirs makes it to court, it's usually over something related to what I listed above.
If they can tell you that you have to pay vehicle registration, they can tell you to do anything. The principle is the same, just farther down the road.
Either we are free, or we are not. No middle ground.
As best as I can tell, there are only a few classes of people - Kings/Sovereigns, Priests/Nobles, Serfs/Slaves. It has long been said that America is a nation of Sovereigns.
Then they tell you to put a sticker on your windshield and a plate on both bumpers so they can track you, and everyone bends the knee.
Kings don’t kneel.
To put it another way, “It’s not about the $5, it’s about the principle of the thing. The slippery slope is very real and dangerous.”
We can end this war as kings or as slaves. Until then, we simply need to know that we have all fallen and are in need of redemption.
John 1:4-7 To the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, and hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
The FBI says sovereign citizens are terrorists. That says two things - they want us to be slaves, for one, and for two, they themselves are in terror of the righteousness of God, or they would not have a terror of sovereigns.
Psalm 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
Edited Note: This isn’t a defense of “The Sovereign Citizen Movement”, as I don’t know much about them. They might be a bunch of jerks, or wrong on a lot of topics. This is only statements in favor of the foundational state of being a free American, which could accurately be called a “sovereign citizen”. Two different things.
Thank you for this. All this corporation stuff is trash. They never provide sources other than the 1871 stuff, which shows nothing. This is right up there with flat earth bullshit.
OK, I've heard you out. Checked your sources.
Here's what I wrote:
It just so happens I encounter this type of reasoning all the time. The last iteration was a Germanite, claiming native status under UN treaty. He also claimed fatal deficiencies at the 1814 process of setting up the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
The Judge: a priori goes that everyone is held to obey the law.
The funny part is officially the judge has to address all items raised. The judge skirted the issue. Hence, his ruling is open to appeal. ( which I trust will not happen)
Why skirting the issue? Because the basis on which things were done is fraudulent i.e. null and void.
And this is the issue in both our countries.
As far as the contents of your post is concerned with sovereign citizen, well, that term is a contradictio in terminis.
Corporation = paper. Without paper, there is no corporation as you have only living men. We've known that since the introduction of the Juridical Person.
The fatal flaw in the whole legal theater is Person. PER SONA => by means of sound. Juridical Person is an impossibility. It is fiction, fake, phony, fraud! And such fraud only exists on paper.
And yes, I agree there is a lot of bullshit being peddled as the truth. Some have tried and failed. But at least they've tried. Quite often, people, instead of thoroughly researching their case, eat up anything that reverberates with their own level of BS.
With that said: Check case no: 20-40375-KKS Tallahassee Division of the Florida Bankruptcy Court. Filing May 4th 2020 by a certain guy you may well know: Donald J. Trump.
And note the role of IRS numbers and bank accounts.
Enjoy the rabbit hole!
Stating I am a sovereign citizen is as a much a contradiction as saying I am a black white man or a I am a king slave.
Every time a soul checks yes on a form asking if they are a citizen of the United states they are declaring they are property of said entity or rather they are a corporate entity doing business within "their" jurisdiction and therefore subject to "their" statutes of commerce and being.
One can legally denounce citizenship and take their sovereignty back by becoming a state national from what I've heard but even those terms state and national sound like contradictio in terminis.,
So how does one legally challenge the Corporation's presumption that we are mere cargo on board a vessel who they can dictate mercantile laws to because they presume it is their sea on which our boat floats?
I've heard the whole, go into court and proclaim your true identity appearing by divine appointment and having gold and silver and blah blah blah.
You sound like you know ... what is your truth?
I do wonder, if the black hats really are in control, why isn't everything ten or fifty times WORSE than it is???
They would have absolute, unrestrained power to do whatever they like.
We could be completely without electricity at this moment, if [they] wished it.
If [they] were totally in control, Trump would positively, without the slightest doubt, be dead and spinning in his grave along with the Founders right now. Because with absolute power they could readily quash any objections that Republicans might dare raise for a few hours or days about the assassination. After the first few get publicly killed and some others tossed in with the J6 political prisoners, control of the populace would get even easier. Human nature.
Also if [they're] in control, [they] would have already unleashed an ACTUAL deadly plandemic that should be ravaging the country right now. We would literally all be locked down in gulags at this moment; every person who ever spoke or typed any words critical of the govt, COVID, the election, etc. would be imprisoned, or executed to entertain the masses of wildly cheering left-wing tools.
They had their chance at world domination, but something went awry. Will we ever find out the truth? Of course not. There is zero (0) possibility of that ever occurring, so we should discard the childish, naive expectation of it; and just rejoice in the hope that The Best Is Yet to Come, WWG1WGA, and NCSWIC.
Agreed, they were a hair away from absolute control.
I look at family who still have no clue and think, "Do you realize what you went along with? Do you realize had their pandemic plan proceeded I would be incarcerated in a camp somewhere right now? Do you realize that from commenting and liking things online, for having gone to a Trump rally, I could easily be locked up right now?"
No, I think we as a people NEED to know just how close we were to losing it all, and entering an age to total darkness.
Once everything is exposed, the DS defeated, and justice and true prosperity reigns again, people need to know what it took to get it back, and why the last 100 + years were the way they were, or else we won’t learn from those mistakes.
That isn't No. That feels more like Yes. :)
OK. WHEN is Reality and truth going to Save Americans from destruction?
Truth will save America but only after it is in rubble.
It saddens me that what you say sounds true.
Me too fren.
Five out of five people in Maui, are not happy with this arrangement
Then it isn't really saving anything. That's like saying the firemen will turn on the hose once the house has burned down. Fuck that, I need a place to live.
It already is in most sanctuary cities. Let’s just rebuild back a really better way whilst humming the venerable East German Hymn.
The Cab Calloway cartoon was suggested just below that video on my stream. Hmm
When black hawks are landing in front of the Capitol and the emergency broadcast system is being used to provide info on the military equipment we see all over the country.
Most people who aren’t willing or capable enough to observe patterns or read the Q drops and then assess them again available info for accuracy.
You can’t tell them. You have to show them. And until they see big black helicopters and army green trucks driving around DC, they won’t believe.
That’s what all of the past years have been about. The pain. The suffering. The fraud. The prosecutions of trump. All of it. All of it has been allowed to be seen by the people. So when the helicopters are landing in DC, when they see politicians being handcuffed, they don’t view it as Trumps military coup. They view it in a different light.
Trump looks like a victim right now. Not a tyrant. It had to be this way.
It's saving Americans now. Open your eyes to see the great awakening. See the 5d chess game right before your very eyes.
Don't give up so easily fren. Keep the faith. That's your biggest challenge..
i think space force might be a very powerful branch
It controls the suitcasessssssss.
i mean like extreme military power
Technology that renders all other forms of weaponry obsolete?
It's our ticket to "we got it all".
So besides just handling all the solar and extra solar programs on operations that where formally under the air force’s jurisdiction, what does Space Force protect us against? Solar radiation? Russia or China’s secret space military? The fucking secret space Nazis that escaped Germany to Antarctica, then ultimately to the Moon and Mars?
(I’m only half joking with that last one. That’s a real conspiracy theory, look it up!)
i don't know what factions are in the mix up there... probably related to the ones we're dealing with down here.
don't kid yourself though, there are a lot of factions
edit: also, just because they are space force doesn't mean they can't engage in all environments... useful down here too
Summed it well, even though exact details, technically, might be different. All this could only happen under devolution.
This is something that has been brought up since Biden took office. It's been discussed here countless times by many people who have done very good jobs explaining their reasoning.
But I still don't believe it's true. It would mean Trump/White Hats were responsible for that shit show in Afghanistan. And it would mean Trump/White Hats are responsible for the shit show going on in Ukraine. What wins are we seeing by way of the military right now, anyway? What have we accomplished with Trump as our secret CIC?
When I point this out, people find all sorts of ways to absolve Trump/White Hats from any negativity involved. Basically, it boils down to the simplistic mentality of "If it's a good thing that happened, Trump did it. But if it's a bad thing, Biden/dems are responsible."
Whenever something negative happens regarding Trump running the country, everyone will start detailing how the government is run and claim that so-and-so in the Department of Whatchamacallit was the one who really screwed up, or it's because something the Democrats did 12 years ago when they were in control.
But whenever something negative happens regarding Biden (or Obama or Clinton) then it's Biden's fault (or Obama's or Clinton's). He was in office when it happened. His fault. Case closed. Problem solved.
I'm just really getting tired of this type of mentality. It's childish and hypocritical. And yeah, I know this post isn't going to be well received. It needs to be said.
I would like to understand what it is, exactly, that people are getting from this belief that Trump is secretly still CIC. Is it because people are anticipating another Civil War and believe the military would back Trump if he was the CIC?
I think this is a fair take, however it's a bit more nuanced in my view. If Trump indeed is "CIC", I believe he would have devolved power and instructed the commanders to whom he dissolved power to play along with orders from the fake govt (Biden) with certain redlines. In the end, I don't believe the devolution side will be revealed since Q said it would be up to everyone to research and know the full truth. On the surface, we may never be publicly told about these things and Trump will just reveal the 2020 fraud and win 2024 in a landslide and cleanup the govt and the public will never NEED to know all the intricacies of the corporation stuff and devolution.
All that being said, I also highly doubt that Trump is truly CIC in secret or whatever. Much more logically, I think he will use his subpoena power to bring forth evidence ("how do you introduce evidence legally" - Q) that shows he had every right to question the fraudulent election, and then upon returning to power as President he will have the political and social capital to clean house and restore law and order and freedom to the people.
Doesn't the corporation theory say the corporation started in the 1800s?
If that's the case wouldn't Trump also have been the president of the same corporation?
That might have been why the military stood behind him on Inauguration Day.
As a way to show he was being sworn into a different United States?
Never thought of that and always wondered...smart!
So there's parallel United States now?
Or where did this different US come from?
Yes, Trump was president of the 1871 corporation that is why he was able to sign the bankruptcy papers on May,4 2020. They have 5 years to vacate.
whoa
sounds saucy. got a sauce?
https://twitter.com/Biz_Shrink/status/1689427632708816898?fbclid=IwAR100PtGZfV134sHmj9u71oKE7EQz5VIOFDQowvzNijDJmSd-o_t0dPAb5I
Thanks. Looking this up I found this GAW thread https://greatawakening.win/p/11SJtFMosz/the-us-corporation-is-a-thing/
Check out the comment by JustAnon
*JustAnon 2 years ago +3 / -1 Faked and debunked this today already. This image is photoshopped, disgusting that people are so desperate to mislead.
Here's the sauce to the real court docket documents for this most likely CHINESE shell company.
https://www.inforuptcy.com/browse-filings/florida-northern-bankruptcy-court/4:20-bk-40375/bankruptcy-case-united-states-corporation-company*
If you follow that link you find the Judge saying the person who filed this document is a "vexatious litigant." That means they file junk, nonsense lawsuit.
This is the woman who filed that document Syteria Hephzibah https://ecf.flnb.uscourts.gov/opinions/Opinion.aspx?id=330
She was accused of passport fraud in Florida and then started filled garbage court filing until the judge put a stop to her. She's a Moorish Sovereign Citizen....they believe black folks are sovereign and thus US law doesn't apply to them.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Moorish_Science_Temple_of_America#Moorish_sovereign_citizens
I thought it might be the document mentioned in this interview https://rumble.com/v35t40q-dr.-jan-halper-hayes-peads-operation-mockingbird-smith-mundt-act-5d-chess.html?fbclid=IwAR0_TMHFUVOKRIfJM2HYQDv8FF2Z4wDbQTuLKAuThchS6PHUnWf600E5vgg
Sorry wrong interview try this https://www.bitchute.com/video/6n80rT8HP8Ph/?fbclid=IwAR057guJXUuROJ_kpBEnJo1isNBgzX6fEZeKFAPZa61_ziX5vCI4BeB02x0
In the late1700's, the corporations were formed and people from Europe were hired as 'facilitators/administrators' of our (unincorporated) government of 'we the people'.
In the 1860s, those corporations literally ran the government of 'we the people' out of town, by force, under the guise of a civil war - a cou d'etat. They usurped the power and to this day, have assumed the roles of 'we the people's government' (their actual bosses) ever since.
I noticed that Trump’s presidential motorcade is bigger than Biden’s presidential motorcade. So there's that.
Right, for a guy that actually LOST money while president, he seem to have quite a lot of resources to have such a large personal motorcade, than the current president has, with supposedly unlimited resources.
Remember those strange motorcade mishaps the Biden administration has had since taking power? Name me any other time in recent memory that’s happened as frequently.
Well, he still IS a billionaire. His resources would easily afford him a large motorcade should he wish it.
And the President doesn't really have "unlimited resources". They still have budgets and have to account for the money they spend. This is actually something the dems brought up repeatedly about Trump- his expense account while President.
What gets me is, if President Trump is CIC, how did the debacle in Afghanistan happen? I believe the original post. I just can’t wrap my head around what “Biden’ did to us in Afghanistan….Any insight?
That's not the hard part. Controlling the parts of the military that matter....NSA, Space Force and all those satellites...
Not sure this is happening, but Afghanistan shouldn't be a stopper.
You are right. I know there is a black hat faction (television generals?) in the military. I am solidly behind President Trump. Trying to redpill a couple of people - The Afghan debacle has been their sticking point and I guess it has become mine. I need to let it go. Thank you Fren.
https://greatawakening.win/p/16aTLuNrCC/to-all-the-people-who-like-to-th/ good explanation of what may have happened concerning Afghanistan.
Thank you. I have saved this link and will go re-read checking every link within when I have more time. Thank you, again, Fren.
Your welcome
If true how does bidan regime send military weapons to Ukraine?
"Point out your plot holes elsewhere!" -Simpsons
It’s possible they aren’t receiving shit. Or they are sending weapons that are trash
So whenever I see people here criticizing the money/weapons/people that Biden/Dems are sending to Ukraine, I can just tell them they're wrong and we're probably not sending anything? Sounds like that will make for some fun discussions.
You are not alone on this revelation..... or should I say, devolution.
I have seen no proof of this.
Was on TV. Not a conspiracy. Public knowledge now.
Isn’t this what we say here every day?
Yes. Second verse, same as the first.
Henry the 8'th I am lol
👏👏👏🏆. You win today's Cultural Literacy Prize for knowing that reference!
thx, comes with old age!
Thats been my theory for the last few years
Absolutely correct!
Unless some other info comes forward to prove otherwise, what you describe does in fact appear to be the current state of affairs in the USA.
You found one of your marbles here, I agree totally.
That sounds wonderful!
You’re not alone …. Question is … where have you been?
We were all LIED TO our whole lives!!! Time to take it back!!
Answered your own question anon.
That's where they've been: being lied to.
Hello, Neo!
You have gained marbles
Makes the whole "two presidents" prophecy pretty accurate.
You are not alone. I am here with you
The truth ——is out there.