Did he leave office with the USA still under a State of Emergency? Did he sign the Insurrection Act? What if America is no longer a corporation, as many have suggested, and Trump is now the sitting President of a brand new Republic?
I don't pretend to know how this works. LOL I've listened to lots of diffetent views. I'm wondering if getting Bidet out of "office" is only for show. They have to do it the right way so that libs can't say Trump unlawfully bullied his way back into the White House. The audits could do just that. Numbers don't lie.
Would love to discuss this. :-)
President Trump never conceded the election and this is important to remember.
Sister. ;-)
Oh, ok. LOL 😁😁😁
Ha Ha !😂
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"he"
PRISON! ten trillion year sentence MINIMUM
Yes!
Another critical thing to remember from 2017 inauguration: https://greatawakening.win/p/12hReOsPiQ/x/c/4Dx5u1kk1QI. Could have been under military this whole time; still to this day.
Such an incredible speech. I still watch it from time to time. Everyone should. That key moment with the officers backing him up gives me goose bumps.
I agree, algae. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks, I just watched it again. It picked me up! I needed that.
That's right! Moreover, he reminds the world on a regular basis that he NEVER conceded!
To throw a wrench in here....just because someone doesn't "concede" does not make them the "winner". Note Stacy Abrams...she didn't concede, yet she is NOT the Gov. of GA. (even tho she thinks she is).
It's not just about the concede part. It's what's potentially behind it e.g., he initiated insurrection act, military took control, he took the nuclear football etc. All signs that he is potentially still Prez. The deal with Stacy was completely different.
I'm a firm believer he is still President, and I believe in the plan. But I still fail to understand what conceding has to do with anything? There is nothing in the Constitution about conceding. The President is chosen by the electors sent by the state. Concession has nothing to do with who is President or who leaves office. Short of some bullshit narrative by the Fake Stream Media saying he left office willingly, I fail to see what a concession has to do with anything.
Fraud vitiates EVERYTHING-not conceding holds much power in this case..
Right. I agree. But even if he DID concede the fraud still would have violated the outcome. I still don't understand what conceding has to do with anything.
It simply means giving up and President Trump NEVER gives up... He has 'castled his position'...
Optics for normies more than anything.
I think if he conceded and then fraud was proved, the left has a movement of their base behind them saying “no fraud. Trump himself knows it because he conceded.” It wouldn’t really muddy the waters putting so much doubt in people’s minds, including Trump’s own base. Besides, President Trump would never leave his supporters hanging by themselves out in a limb, he would never betray us like that.
Right, I came here to say this stuff but you already said it all the way down … allegedly, fraud vitiates EVERYTHING …that should include a “concession”, whatever the fuck that even is.
If he were to concede an election that he knew was a fraud, he would actually be guilty of treason also.
"Did he sign the Insurrection Act?"
Doesn't need to be signed. Just "invoked." Which can be done verbally, just like it was done on January 6th when Trump told everyone to "Go home" (ordering the 'insurgence' to disperse) three times within 90 seconds.
I didn't know that.
It was the FB/Twitter video that finally caused Zuckerbot & @Jack to snap and ban his accounts.
Not only did he instruct everyone to go home, but he specified to do it in peace. Those phrases are required in order to invoke the Insurrection Act.
A trip down memory lane...
https://tv.gab.com/channel/realdonaldtrump/view/we-have-to-have-peace-5ff62ceaf0a21cb861e2a3d2
Wow! I hadn't noticed that in the short video clip he said go home and peace 3 times each. That is plainly what he was doing, invoking the Insurrection Act verbally and clearly, not once but three times.
Or, since there was no announcement on the topic, he may have been trolling the D-S/cabal (and the rest of the world) by making it unclear whether or not he did.
What a movie!
That announcement was also pre-recorded. Was at the Capitol Jan 6th. The weather was overcast, cold and windy as shit. Watch that video again…in it, the sun was poking through. PLANNED
Linked the video in thread above Permalink
Invocation if I’ve ever heard one ☝️
That would be admitting that our people were insurgents. Instead there was no insurgency whatsoever, just a handful of antifa thugs dressed in MAGA gear to look cute.
There was an insurgency but the people the cabal blamed were not the insurgents it was the cabal and their minions. And by admitting there was an insurgency, even thought they lied about who the insurgents were, triggered something from the Law of War. Id have to go back through MajicEyes videos to figure out what it was though.
If he can prove that Congress, Biden, the FBI, etc. were involved in planning the FF, then the order to disperse could also apply to them.
Did they ever find Nancy's laptop that was snatched?
Or 5d chess he is telling the Pantyfa insurgents that represent the DS to go home?
Too bad they were over a mile away walking into an open capitol to get the cue.
I think everything in DC right now is a show, and Bo Jo will be removed once the military acts on foreign interference in our election. But whether it's a reinstallment of Trump or a new election, most people are unsure. I think the best way out is if the plan does include Trump already installed in the new republic. LOL but discussing this makes my head hurt and my eyes cross because it all is truly unknown.
Agreed. The foreign interference angle is the most important, but last to be revealed, IMO.
People's eyes are being opened daily by the onslaught of evidence from AZ & GA. PA/WI/MI/NV/NH are likely next. We're on a steady progression of unwinding the "most secure election ever" horse shit narrative, and Americans are waking up to it.
Now the talking point is "Well, there wasn't enough fraud to change the outcome," as if that makes any degree of election fraud acceptable.
They know it's happened and are warming up to the breadth of the fraud. Only then can our side play the international interference angle to demonstrate the depth of the meddling.
It's worth mentioning, that's why Maricopa BoE is deliberately dragging their feet in handing over the routers. The inbound international IP traffic into their servers on Election Night and the following days will be damning.
It's also my theory that it's when you see Mike Lindell become a LOT more forthcoming with that Mary Fanning info from his videos.
I love that word! It's right up there with douchebaggery!
What fuckery is this?!
Ah yes, "fuckery" too - we need to petition the urban dictionary on these. Also, one my brother used to like using - dickage. I'm sure it would be a synonym of fuckery, bullshittery and douchebaggery.
Let me add another one. Fuckening. When the AZ routers get examined, that will be the fuckening.
The fuckening is quickening.
Saying “Not enough fraud to change the outcome” is like saying “there’s only a little dog poop in the brownies. You’ll hardly taste it”.
Right! Fraud, is fraud, is fraud! It doesn't matter what level, FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING! I've been sounding this horn for months, now! This statement means if his cheating is found in one state, it nullifies him and his whole 'a valid candidate' PERIOD!! He is (and should) be disqualified! And yanked from office with a long list of treasonous-traitorous felonies to put him away are eradicate him altogether!
That's gaslighting. Any calculated systemic deliberate organized fraud committed by a political campaign immediately disqualifies the cheater and hands the victory to the candidate who got the highest number of votes who didn't cheat.
Morons love to pipe up and chime in with "Nuh-UH! One random poll worker scanning a ballot twice doesn't disqualify a presidential candidate!!!" They do it every time this comes up. Let's see if it happens again...LOL
You know they will. They're only as good as their programming.
LOL I feel you, Factfiler. Makes me dizzy sometimes trying to figure this whole thing out.
this 'theory' has been discussed ad nauseam since January. Bards, Juan-fraud-Savin...
it's just a bunch of Copium.
Trump did not concede. He's letting the process play out. I think we won't understand his strategy except in hindsight.
nothing about our Constitution demands we accept crime or allow criminals to keep their stolen goods, shrug it off and say "better luck next time."
This, to me, is the most important aspect to remember.
We can't look up the ending on Wikipedia. The fact that we get crumbs of the strategy is amazing enough.
I just found the sleaze behind Wikipedia. Jimmy "Jimbo" Wales founded a porn site, Bomis. Bomis created Nupedia and then Wikipedia. DeepCapture.com has info about this and a lot more.
So don't count on Wikipedia for anything political, or financial, or just a whole bunch of other stuff.
I just found out about Wales and just had to tell someone.
Great work
Thanks. I found archives of Bomis.com on the Wayback Machine, and it did link to porn photos. It also linked to Wikipedia.
I agree with you and when I ask myself “why the charade?”, the only answer I can come up with is that the goal is far beyond just the United States, it’s global. President Trump and Patriots are not just saving America, we are paving a path for the world to follow. Not saying the end is utopia, rather the people of nations will have a choice, exist under tyranny or participate in the great awakening. The road is long and dangerous but heads toward hope for our future generations.
Agree with you 100%!
Think of how many sleeping patriots are waking up now, in light of AZ/GA voter fraud developments that were asleep, back on Independence Day.
Now imagine how many have woken up since Memorial Day.
Every day that follows yields more normies awake to the con that's been committed against our republic.
viva Cuba
Awakening to dependency on Jesus Christ is my hope! The rest will work itself out.
It would be great if Trump still is president. The part that makes me think this might be possible is: 1) he updated EO 13848 and 2) he replaced the secretary of defense just shortly before the 2021 inauguration and 3) I thought I heard he changed the chain of command for the special operations teams.
He DID change the CoC for SPECOPS. It pissed-off the DS royally.
What do you mean he "updated" the EO?
Yes, it was former Green Beret / Army Special Forces Chris Miller.
Yes they made a massive & monumental shift in SOCOM / SPECOPS; my understanding is they essentially made SOCOM its own branch of the military, just like the Army, Navy, AF, etc.
Now SOCOM is essentially it's own co-equal branch of the military and it reports directly to SECDEF.
FWIW; remember these are the absolute best of the best, top-tier guys. I've also read from MANY sources that the higher up the secret squirrel chain you go, the more conservative the guys are; your average Navy SEAL is not some snowflake fag.
These are some of the most patriotic and good men this nation has ever created; these are exactly the men you'd NEED on your side in order to defeat this coup that has taken place.
I stand corrected. I thought EO 13848 was updated by Trump but it appears it was created by Trump. Looks like it was to maybe strengthen or add additional items to EO 13694 and EO 13757.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/14/2018-20203/imposing-certain-sanctions-in-the-event-of-foreign-interference-in-a-united-states-election
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/01/03/2016-31922/taking-additional-steps-to-address-the-national-emergency-with-respect-to-significant-malicious
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2015/04/02/2015-07788/blocking-the-property-of-certain-persons-engaging-in-significant-malicious-cyber-enabled-activities
Thanks for the links!
Interesting. I hadn't heard this.
If Trump is still President, that solves the issues Lapstrake brings up in his post. Would be brilliant. Sometimes there are things that happen that make me think he’s still in control. 🙏
What if three states decertify the election and decide to hold new elections... but Joe Biden cannot appear on the ticket?
Imagine if Joe Biden is found mentally incompetent in the mean time... such that he cannot legally run for office, so his name cannot appear on the ballot in those 3 states?
How would that work? Would the Democrat ticket then be Kamala Harris / Pelosi?
The Constitution provides mechanisms for a fraudulent election, but all of them failed to function properly.
There is no provision in the Constitution for a do-over election.
Does that mean we won't have one? IDK. People seem to be fine now with just ignoring the Constitution when it suits them.
I mean, the Constitution gives the power to make decisions about how the states runs their elections, but the governors of some states just ignored that did whatever the fuck they wanted.
Interesting, RetainingH2O.
Spend time reading Thomas Wictor: https://social.quodverum.com/@ThomasWic
It's ironic; everyone over there at quod verum HATES Q and anyone who follows / believes it, but they've all arrived at the exact same conclusions we have, just using different methods.
Anyway, Thomas & others over there believe that we are in the middle of a "Devolution" and that's how this is all happening.
I still need to spend time reading & researching it more, but it's quite the rabbit hole to fall into...
For a site that wants nothing to do with Q, they spend alot of time talking about it.
Indeed, it is QUITE amusing! 😂😎
'Devolution' is a word that every anon should familiarize himself with. Wictor was the first to float it as a possibility, but he hasn't written on the subject in some time, as he's been busy with other things. These threads by PatelPatriot, another QV guy, do a great job of summing things up in the meantime.
https://patelpatriot.substack.com/p/devolution
https://patelpatriot.substack.com/p/devolution-part-2
https://patelpatriot.substack.com/p/devolution-part-3
https://patelpatriot.substack.com/p/devolution-part-4
Excellent read, thanks for posting this.
EPIC, thanks!!!!
Dear Holy Lord God...... Thank you SO MUCH for posting that!!!!
That should be stickied at the top of the forum!!!!!
That is the greatest summary / overview of the situation I've read!!!!!!
This is one of the ways you know your thoughts are on track 👌😉
Exactly what I thought.... It's VERY comforting & interesting to me that anons + QV people took two completely and totally different roads, but arrived at the same destination. :-)
Right on : )
Opposing intellectual sources arriving at the same conclusions ❤️😍👌
Wictor is infuriating but I still listen to him/read him regularly.
Not half as infuriating as Saul Bradley
He banned me from QV back in March for a half assed comment questioning whether military was the only way. I still lurk there occasionally to read Wictor but Saul's enormous ego keep me away mostly.
Recently Saul got a taste of his own medicine. He tried to dismiss discussion of one of Wictor's topics as conspiracy theory and Wictor posted he'd leave the board. Delicious.
I saw that! Laughed my ass off.
If Wictor leaves he takes Quodverum with him. I think in the back of his head Saul knows that but he's too full of himself to admit it, let alone change his ways.
How so?
I think saul is a self-righteous, pompous asshat with an ego on par with obama - and THAT is saying something!
I disagree that Biden has command of anything. I believe his administration was sandboxed and whoever the DS has as their military puppet (Milley?) is only there to be the fall guy when the full truth comes out.
I think some factions of the military may be loyal to the Biden admin but they are committing treason whether they realize it or not and will be court martialed eventually.
Well someone is authorizing the military to ship illegals on military assets from the border all across the Country. First Monkeywerx caught them through tracking the flights, then last week I read somewhere (can't remember source but maybe bookmarked it) someone admitting it to be true. At the same time Monkeywerx also saying confirmed white hats have been incredibly busy with Gitmo traffic, but he thinks the uptick is related to several human trafficking arrests, the flights coincided with news reports of big busts in certain cities. So it does seem as though there really are two militaries right now. And then there's Trump's last rally where he said that comment about the military and the "white house" in "all small letters" Craziest movie I've ever seen.
Trump is still acting as commander in chief. All of the real generals report to him. Everything else is just for show—Biden has zero say in American military affairs.
Agreed
That is incredibly fascinating & I'm so grateful that people make the time to create videos like that!!!
You may be onto something there, but time will tell.
There are a multitude of reasons why i keep calling this a film:
I could go on, but if you think anything coming out of dc is real by now, i dunno what else to say really.
To me this is the most insane ensemble montage production ive ever seen. Its like LotR, star wars, the neverending story, trading places, the big short, outbreak, and the police academy series all had an orgy, and the brood that popped out was delivered into a theatre near you across all 11 screens.
The zombie apoc films it spawned bores me rigid, but the rest are hilarious when watched with the right glasses in full UHD.
The involvement of FEMA is a possibility that not enough anons talk about. It is worth remembering that Trump signed an EO declaring elections to be critical infrastructure back in January 2017.
There's also this excerpt from Q2479:
"Why did the same counties [under dispute today] REFUSE to turn over voter registration information upon request to the Voter Fraud Commission? Why was the Voter Fraud Commission disbanded and turned over to DHS? What vested auth does DHS have compared to a commission body?"
Lastly, iirc, Trump replaced the head of DHS in his last week before leaving.
Thank you for finally putting into words what I have been witnessing 🤯
all good points
what is this about
the castle rock production of biden photos that appear to be photoshopped ones of trump.
Some anons did analysis on a biden photo in the white house a few weeks back. It looked like biden, but his reflection in the window behind him was the wrong shape and hair for biden, but a perfect match for trump. Everyone on the day called it a photoshopped shot as a result.
It doesn’t matter whether he said he invoked it. It only matters whether he invoked it. Disinformation is necessary.
Agreed, even if he did invoke it, it would be a dumb move to go and announce it. Based on the fact that the order to disperse was published, we know that it was at least on the table as an option.
So what's the difference in him invoking the Insurrection act and having the election EO activate? Wouldn't the EO or possibly the EO's just activate automatically without any kind of an announcement? If so we wouldn't even know, the public I mean. Can anyone explain the difference please?
I agree. "Strategy" not "timeline".
They built a fence around DC because it's now enemy occupied territory. It couldn't be more obvious.
This. A buddy of mine from Richmond posted that his girlfriend drove up to DC to check. She told him there’s a huge fence blocking every vehicle entrance to the city, with military checkpoints, but the military wasn’t speaking English. She also told him the city looked empty from the fence. No people, no moving cars, nothing.
And that fence is about a football field thick, you have to go through a tunnel of sorts to get through it. At least it was in the beginning I don't know about lately and you need(ed) to show ID to go in or OUT at least two or three times at every checkpoint.
Actually, Incogneato, I think it's the other way around. Love your name BTW!
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I don't think so, way over kill. But that's what the left believe and that's fine with me
this is exactly what i think is going on and the military has full control right now, over media and politics. there is still a real threat right now because of world wide org out of our control (ccp, cdc, who, un ect ect) but i think were near the end.
If the military has full control of the media and this is what the media shows (no real mention of fraud beyond bashing cyber ninjas as a joke, covid being soooo dangerous, masks being good, etc) we are beyond fucked as the military has been corrupted deeply by the DS
Exactly. Appear weak when you are strong.
This is why I think all the woke bullshit in the military is for show. Make us look weak and distracted by social justice topics, when we’re actually ready to open a massive can of whoop-ass.
appear run by goons when trump is truly cic
All of the above are great comments and ideas. However Trump does seem to be pretty agitated with the media right now. Not sure how military has control of it. Unless as stated above its misdirection. And he's suing big tech, which I found odd BC the election fraud EO definitely has Big tech included it. Why haven't they been found to be complicit in the fraud and shut down already? Or, is his lawsuit going to prove the fraud and then the EO kicks in for them? Hmmm, just thought of this! He sure was quick to jump on the very limited AZ reveal meeting results. Those were very limited results, the big stuff is yet to come according to Dr. Frank. But even with that, I think they advanced the release of that info even in its partial incomplete state to get the first domino to fall. The moment it went public, Wendy called for Electors to be recalled, and Trump was right behind her agreeing with her, saying "why wait". This indicates to me that the public becoming aware has more to do with the big plan than we think. Or, it's as simple as he's in a hurry to get the certifications reversed to hurry up saving our country. Great movie, kinda want to skip ahead to the end though. It's hard watching all the damage being done.
Patriot1978, what we've seen of the supposed decline/corruption of our military is what the MSM tells us. We all know they lie like a rug. We can use that deception to our advantage. I keep thinking, "Appear weak when you are strong." Just a thought.
I somehow never thought of it that way, you are certainly correct. There has been a slight but noticeable narrative change over the last 6 months or so. Zero to 100 would be too much for the masses!! I just hope the plan is real and we aren’t all being taken for a ride. I know it’s just the negativity speaking but I’ve lost friends and family over this, they all think I am a nutcase. My own niece asked me not to come to her wedding b/c she doesn’t want the night ruined with “but again conspiracy’s and Trump worship propaganda”. Here we sit over 4.5 years since Trumps election win and Killary and Obummer are free. Sorry I’m ranting, I sure hope the military really is in control.
Just sit back and remember this is all a movie. It’s all for show.
you have to ease the normies into the truth, have you noticed a slight narrative twist since Xiden got in? i have. you cant just over night rip the bandaide off on these people, it would mentally break them and start civil unrest. hence, why theres a plan.
This is so important to remember. There’s a reason there has never been a transfer of power in this country without a concession by the other side. Until and unless Trump concedes, he is still commander in chief and president.
The swearing in ceremonies were odd
Beyond odd. I think it was completely fake. Pre-recorded.
Same. Surreptitiously usurped.
And Jill Biden's shoes changed between entering the building on one side and exiting the other side at the platform.
Did Killary ever concede? My understanding was that she was way too drunk to appear before the public and make that traditional announcement.
She was never potus in the first place. But yes, to this day she still has not conceded 2016.
It seems to me there might be some merit to this line of thinking. First Biden did not fly into DC in Airforce One for the inauguration. Second and more importantly some states, mostly red states, seem to be giving the middle finger to the Biden administration per Covid, passports, ect ect.
All we really need is 38 states to rid us of the current crowd in DC via Constitutional Amendment, and replace them. DC is out of control and has been for quite some time. Essentially since 911 and the Bush junta our Constitution has been regarded as nothing but toilet paper. This can be fixed by 38 states.
The states, 38 of them, can demand new elections through a Constitutional Amendment.
So yes Trump I believe is the legitimate President of the Republic, and the Pedo is only President of that small area in Washington DC now known as the corporation.
"The best is yet to come".... Wait patiently for the best to come for it will be spectacular. It'll do the Founding Fathers PROUD!!!
A little off subject but your comment just reminded me of a write up Monkeywerx did, you can find it on his website, about how why the dems are in such a hurry to make DC a State. His theory is that DC is broke, broker than broke, and if they can swindle it so that DC gains Statehood, they will then somehow have access to the land in America and a lot of other things would happen that I dont remember atm. I'm definitely not doing his article any justice, you should check it out for yourself. I thought it was a good read. It offered a perspective I've not seen anywhere else yet.
The military is already on board. The reason we are waiting is to wake up the general population.
u/#q4641
I think we will know when we’re at the precipice and how to participate. “My fellow Americans, the Storm is upon us.”
I have nothing to contribute except... u/#Catdance
Love that cat.
Fair enough, but bending over backward trying to do things SO THAT LIBS CAN'T SAY XYZ is a fool's errand. They'll say it anyway. There's nothing they won't say—except the truth, they hate that one.
Also, it lets them control the narrative, lets them set conditions on what can and can't be done and said, it gives them WWAAAYYY too much importance beyond what they deserve, which is essentially zero.
I think it's all a show, I brought the jiffypop! enjoy
DC is occupied territory. United States corporation in debt to world banks vs United States of America the representative republic.
I'll probably get hassled for this but:
The Constitution itself is an incorporation document that created the United States. There had to be a legal body to pay bills, have bank accounts, make orders, and follow the rules set out in the Constitution. You need a legal body (corpus hence corporation) to do these things.
Read it carefully. It has the same form as any other incorporation documents except the voters are the shareholders. It defines the jobs of the Executive Branch etc. It defines how changes are made and how the legal body is to act. It defines rights and responsibilities.
Before you reply, check it out for yourself.
I think you are correct.
If he comes back before 2022 i want an excuse to keep him 4 years, not just 3!
Kim Clement prophesied that there would be 2 presidents.
"And they shall say, "But now there is a second president. How can we have two presidents?" An unusual thing, isn't it? says the Spirit of the Lord.
Why would it be that one with a double-mind would stand up and face the people? No, they shall say, "We have two presidents, what do we do now?"
Fear not. For God says, as I promised before, this is My nation, and I will change things according to the time and season. And I told you now in spring, I will expose and reveal things that have been hidden, so that My nation can move into this next election and to the next phase with victory and honor and glory, says the Lord of Hosts!"
Theory developing for me: MSM is the most powerful weapon on Earth. Everything the Patriots have done thus far has been to convert as many of the normies as possible back to "just smart enough to say fuck communism" again.
Trump has been saying since he took office that the MSM is totally corrupt and the biggest threat to the country.
I believe this is true
General Flynn did say by the grace of God we are a republic. I believe Trump is the president of the republic and I also had super natural confirmation of this.
Same
Since the "election" was a fraud, Trump never lost. Seems that he made the right moves so he could continue. State legislatures ought to decertify, that would reinforce the truth.
This is my strongest working hypothesis.
He is.
Trump once mentioned a third term perhaps the would be initially hidden from the public.
Good convo starter!
This seems to be reasonable then anything else. In fact, I think you’re on to something here.