...and he of course told me he was out of his mind busy. He doesn't generally work with Covid patients, but he's obviously around sick people with similar symptoms every day and understands treatment protocols, testing, etc.
So I asked him if he has noticed a big rise in cases because of the Delta Variant. He said absolutely. So I asked him, "how are you testing for this variant?"
He said..."I'm not sure."
I of course know there is no such test, so I asked "are you just using the same PCR test you've been using?"
He told me he wasn't sure, but thought that was the case.
I then asked him "aren't those tests unable to differentiate between viruses?"
I swear to God he looked at me, chuckled to himself and said "honestly man, we just go by what we hear on the radio or the news."
At this point I had one more question.
I asked him if they've started treating Covid patients with Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin now that the studies show they are safe and highly effective?
He said he "didn't really know" what Ivermectin was and that they weren't even considering HCQ. Remdesevir was the main treatment protocol.
What did I learn from this conversation?
Our hospitals are enabling this charade to continue AND letting people needlessly die.
Grant funding rules the narrative.
The narrative rules the minds of the sheep.
Western medicine needs a COMPLETE overhaul.
Big Pharma is the world's most accomplished serial killer.
We must destroy them.
Sad to see someone so educated just submitting to the brainwashing on the airwaves. The moral of the story is to treat your family at home. Forget about the medical profession: they are lost.
A have a number of medics in my family - totally ashamed of them playing along with this hoax. Pathetic wage slaves.
In a lot of professions, group think is rampant. The pressure to conform is intense.
Ironically, it is the scientific method that is the solution to the group think problem. If only people were smart enough to use it... but for the overwhelming majority, that is not the case.
On the other hand, anyone that does focus on systematically producing superior results has a HUGE competitive advantage over the group think zombies... our current situation is an opportunity for a lot of creative destruction - in many different fields.
What I learned from your retelling of your conversation…
And morally compromised
An ex-buddy of mine who is a doctor is exactly this. Once it was clear he was not going to entertain any counter narratives whatsoever, especially the really powerful, evidence-based and scientifically sound ones - calling all the distinguished scientists and doctors who risk everything to expose the BS as “cranks” and the links I sent him as “conspiracy theories” - I disowned him. Stopped picking up the phone. Lost all respect for him, after 20+ years of friendship. My conscience is clear.
Same here: a surgeon I know started yelling CONSPIRACY when I pointed out the chemtrails that had criss-crossed the sky. Don't rock the boat, we are all doing nicely and want to stay in the system.
Two little girls that play on my street even noticed the chemicals and randomly asked me if they were real one day. I asked, "sometimes yous ee a plane and the trail immediately dissapears, right? And at the exact same time, 2 other planes in the sky are leaving trails, right? The ones that leave trails last all day and by the end of the day the sky is gray and full of clouds." They said, "see! We noticed that but our teacher said it's not true!"
I noticed the trails as a kid and always questioned it. Still don’t quite understand the conspiracy behind like (I.e. why they do it) but it’s definitely interesting.
Hope you said their teacher was either ignorant or dishonest.
What exactly are chemtrails composed of?
You have it right. Hospitals are having in service training often now to guide people on the covid situation. The doctors have regular meetings to discuss and set protocol for their medical staff. Your friend is being disingenuous in stating that he doesn’t know anything but what is on the news. A more telling question for him; ‘have you and your family been fully vaxxed?’ That will get you more info. All you’re doing to him now is causing him to defend his position on how he practices even if he doesn’t buy into it on this covid mess.
700, 000 people agree with you because that's how much college admission are down.
Whenever someone mentions my 10 year old's future college life they look at me in puzzlement when I respond that my greatest hope for him is that he will choose not to attend any institutionalized college (school of indoctrination) and that he will instead be self educated.
My sister is going to be a college freshman this year, school just mandated that all students must be vaccinated by August 30th. Mind you, they made this announcement 2 DAYS AFTER ADMISSION WAS DUE.
They’re my alma mater, but I look at them as criminals now. She’s not sure what to do, I’m trying to help but our hands are tied.
Here is a link to the full list of resources for fighting mask and vaxx mandates.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jdEDNE1g/resources-to-fight-vaxx-and-mask/
Tbf, in some cases they may be afraid to lose their license and, consequently, their ability to treat their patients.
Many good doctors have stopped accepting insurance/prescribe on the DL because of this.
Q did say people tend to follow the path of least resistance. Standing for the truth is too much for most. That involves resisting and they've got a lot busy work to take care of. You know, hamster in the wheel stuff.
You nailed this. Resist the devil and he shall flee. All men are capable of this least common denominator.
Asking, resisting, believing, all the last common denominators that humans can all do. What does it take to resist? Very little.
That quote has existed many, many, many years before Q was a twinkle in anyone's eye
He didn't say Q was the first. Though he's likely the most relevant to mention on this forum.
Yeah, “brilliant guy” my ASS. Bosstown (my childhood stomping grounds) is a TARD SEWER.
I tried explaining this to my colleague, and he just starred blankly back and shook his head. Probably thought I was nuts. He refuses to believe that doctors and nurses in the medical field can be this retarded and brainwashed by the mainstream media.
Yup. I did the same with some sheep friends. I asked "How are they testing for the Delta when it's just the same PCR test for Covid-19? There is no test for variants so where are the numbers coming from?"
They all go blank. You can see their brain can't compute this. In the end the answer I always get is, "I don't know, but hospitals and governments wouldn't lie."
Funny how they skip right over my question and get straight to the one thing none of them will accept: governments are lying. Hospital administrators are lying.
Sheep just can't accept that "democratically-elected" governments are often no better than petty dictatorships. At least in dictatorships the people knows the government is lying. But slap on a "democracy" and suddenly they can't lie. We should trust them.
That is exactly what I get as well.
What is worse, this colleague of mine voted for Trump, hates liberals, and he STILL can't accept that the government would lie about the virus. I tried warning him about the vaccine back in March, but he and the rest of my colleagues ran off and got both damned shots and then sat around gloating about their side effects for the next week.
This brainwashing runs deep.
Yup. To me the one thing holding back the sheep is how fiercely they cling to "the government wouldn't lie. All these people wouldn't lie".
If that one belief cracks they'll wake up. It's why people in dictatorships are easier to wake up because they fully accept that ALL those people are lying. They don't have that "Governments don't lie" mantra stuck in their head.
So when Lindell drops his evidence, and the AZ audit results get released, they will have some significant cognitive dissonance. I have a few friends I'm anxious to see how they respond when the dominoes start falling.
I was posting the same thing last night.
Wow, so doctors that are really smart, but with no discernment, apparently no common sense, question nothing? And just go about their daily routine? Idk, where is this leading to?
Mass murder
For them? Hell if they don’t stop killing people and repent
This is at least the third anecdotal tidbit I've seen where a doctor has claimed to not know what Ivermectin was. Given the continued coverage of potential Covid treatments, how is that even remotely possible?!
I think doctors, just like other deluded sheeple, are insulating themselves against any knowledge that will show up their complicity in this nightmare. If they don't 'know' about Ivermectin or 'understand what Ivermectin even does', they don't have to confront their own guilt.
This will not help them when their judgement comes.
How can they sleep at night?
Protecting themselves from Malpractice by following the AMA is their only real concern.
At this time, the AMA is crap.
At the VERY LEAST they should take a leave of absence and not kill people until Trump returns and the truth finally comes out.
If you knowingly hurt or kill your patient, you are Dr. Mengale.
Of course. The AMA has delegitimized or outright murdered Drs since the 1930’s if they didn’t tow the line (think Rockefeller's). One of my heroes is Dr Royal Rife...almost Tesla-esque in his knowledge. His Rife Machine and research into which frequencies killed almost every pathogen were instrumental in me beating cancer. I used many therapies but he’s my hero.
If the doctors stand up in DROVES they AMA won't be able to punish them. They must help save humanity.
I hear you?! How many would risk all their schooling & careers for America? I’m thinking not many. sigh
Perhaps they won't have to, when Trump returns. But they should still not be giving the death jabs.
I believe a similar mental phenomena is going on with people who already got the covid shot(s). They DO NOT WANT TO HEAR about the negative aspects of the covid shots now that they have had it! It's almost like people who have refused to accept Jesus Christ as their savior all their lives, will not accept Him at a later age, because then they have to admit they were wrong their whole life, and they would apparently rather go to Hell than admit they were wrong. Pretty sad.
I denied Him for 36 years, but now see the truth in Him.
I was 30 when I accepted Jesus as my Savior. I was deceived from college throughout my 20's (thought I was too smart to believe the Bible :) ). It still took me a couple of years to really get the scales off my eyes; I voted for Dukakis! I soon was convinced that abortion really was a litmus test of one's soul, and therefore, could NEVER vote for a Democrat again. Even if a Democrat candidate says they are pro-life, my feeling is that if they are in that vile political party, they are as much a part of the abortion holocaust as the rest of them. Sure, many Republicans pretend to be pro-life, but at least on paper, the Republican party supports the rights of unborn children to live.
Same reason people stick.with shitty churches and shitty biblical doctrine that doesn't have a biblical basis.
Or stick with sciences description of the world we live in. Many pedes are even gonna have to do a check up from the neck up when certain info comes out.
With a the lies proven too many tbare still stuck on the deep states narrative.
Correct. Need to tread light With people who already got the shot, they will often burst into anger if you start telling them they basically poisoned themselves.
You've also learned people we trust in important positions have forgotten how to think for themselves. Academia did a great job of teaching them just "do as you're told by those above you", and "don't ask questions or you'll look like a conspiracy nut job and lose everything".
The entire system of promotion and placement of personnel in positions of leadership is designed specifically to root out those capable of self-directed thought and problem-solving.
The people actually capable of leadership are tagged as "boat rockers" and sent packing.
And this is what happens to a society who elevates cowards, we all become slaves.
At the "humorous" end is Brazil (1985) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/
At the reality end is the usual "utopia" of organized and industrialized mass murder and soul-crushing tyranny (Fascism, Nazism, Communism, etc).
So yeah. Either way, it's slavery.
I used to be in medicine. I know for a fact, they spend substantial money and time to "educate" staff about new protocols that they must follow in staff meetings, so everyone is on the same page. I'm glad I left, because I would be fired.
Doctors not looking into this are either evil or stupid. Both are dangerous doctors.
Hey, I trust you Bones. Now what’s that Tricorder say & quit mumbling about Spock!
Has that pointy eared devil been talking about me?
(whispering); I think he has Tribbles in his head(?). Give him the VAXX, Dr!!!
Er, what planet are we on?
Not DAVOS I HOPE?!!!
I worked in a government bureaucracy for 26 years. They literally teach that to be a good leader, you must first prove yourself to be a "good follower" - which, to them, means "do what we tell you to and don't question those giving the orders". Those that advance the highest are those that have the least moral compass.
I'm sure it's much the same in corporate medicine - push the protocols and drugs we tell you or you commit career suicide.
It's much the same in the military too.
A general rule of thumb is that officers don't make it past Lt. Col, or at most Col if they're competent leaders.
Only politicians in uniform-type douchebags make flag ranks.
"Those that advance the highest are those that have the least moral compass.
And you stayed 26 years? Im Curious, did you ever promote? Or did you stay entry level your entire career?
And are we talking the DMV level service Or federal?
26 years was combined between a couple of federal positions (6 years) and 20 at local level until I took retirement. Way above DMV level in type of work performed but a bureaucracy at the administrative level for sure. Yes - I promoted but not above "blue collar" crew management level - by choice, saw enough of upper levels from there to know I did not fit that mold (can't keep my mouth shut if I think something is bad for my crew members, etc.). I Focused more on specialization/technical aspects of my job rather than studying/positioning for my next promotion opportunity - I'm happier doing something useful than I am politicking to get noticed.
Exactly. My SIL was nominated valedictorian of Santa Clara University. In my opinion, after having a couple former students of mine receive the same "honor" at their respective Universities, I realized that these designations are actually all about raising up the individuals who have proven to be the most complicit, dutiful obedient sheep of their entire class. These are people who do everything they are told and have higher than average levels of motivation. They are simultaneously highly obedient and highly loyal to the chain of command. All the people I know who received this recognition are not only still asleep but deeply committed to continuing in that state.
So a flipping doctor is getting his MEDICAL ADVICE from the flipping NEWS!!!
Hey, they also use magic 8-balls and coin flips too! They're experts!
Thanks for sharing. Good insight. I wonder how cardiologists treat cardio myelitis. Isnt it grand we know more than those with all the degrees.
They've sold out. I have nothing but contempt for the lot of them.
Many doctors have spent a large portion of their lives becoming a doctor and enormous sums of money. Some are scared to lose their position and standard of living. But that is no excuse.
If they knowingly are killing people, they will have to answer to God one day. Hopefully answer at Nuremburg #2 soon.
That's true. Many doctors stick by the standard protocols and peer-reviewed studies.
It's unbelievable that people who are somewhat intelligent, know all about the body, have passed organic chemistry, etc. are not even CURIOUS what is in this shot that contains brand new technology NEVER used on humans before.
It's a mixed bag. Some don't know. Some are following the corporate policy. Some are brainwashed. Some don't care. Some are evil.
But there are good doctors putting everything on the line, including their careers, finances, reputations and their very lives to help us. Like Dr. Tenpenny, Dr. Madej, Dr. Mikovits, Dr. Zelenko, etc. They will go down in history as intelligent and courageous. Heroes.
GOD BLESS THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE.
I have one more question for him...what was that oath thingy they took??? Something Something like "Do No Harm" . Right? Right??
If there is one good thing that comes out of this COVID tragedy, it is that Western Medicine will be completely discredited. We're a long way from that though. Too many are worshipping at the altar of the Industrial Medical Complex.
Aggressive nutritional protocols and physical conditioning can prevent and treat many chronic serious illnesses. They should come before drugs and surgery.
How many physicians really know how to achieve good health?
We've got public schools and colleges churning out students w/o critical thinking skills, entertainment and media brainwashing people with leftist thinking, and a food industry developing unhealthy eating habits and GMO foods. A great recipe for a nation.
And your friend is an idiot. Sorry. The info is out there.
Follow the money
Always...
As a side note, this is a point I use in red pills. People can relate to greed as a motive.
Remdesevir is deadly. Queue kidney failure in 3..2..1.
Wasn't Trump treated with that?
POTUS Trump was treated with Regeneron.
I think he got anti-body therapy if he even had Covid. A lot about that supposed hospital stay looked fishy. One poster immediately recognized the cabinetry in the background of his "in-hospital" stay as being the same as onboard a ship he was familiar with. He might have ducked out of sight to have a secret meeting aboard a ship under the guise of getting treatment.
Interesting...I remember him mentioning Regenorn as though it was what was used to treat him, but not Remdesivir.
Good...thanks for the correction.
Thanks for clarifying. So he actually took the regeneron product AND the remdesiver.
You're welcome!
No
I think he received anti-body treatment.
I do not excuse that level of ignorance/ apathy in the general public, but amongst medical professionals? Simply shameful.
It is the JOB and MORAL/LEGAL OBLIGATION of medical professionals to know everything about a medical procedure they do on a patient, including shots.
All of these people are not getting INFORMED CONSENT. I think they can sue on that basis alone.
If I'm not mistaken, in the 90s, there was a change in Federal Law that made it perfectly LEGAL to not provide informed consent for products classified as "vaccines."
This plan has been in the works for a very long time.
When someone who informs themselves knows more than a specialist, it’s time to quit going to these complicit cabaal enablers.
Years ago my doc said: You know more about it than I do. At the time I wasn't sure if she was joking or being sarky, later realised she meant it.
I saw video with a Dr. Aldas or something like that name. He stated there was a study where Remedesvir was found to be causing the blood clotting. This is not just malpractise if that information is true it is murder, and Fauci and the rest know it.
Ripe for a RICO takedown of big pharma and their colluding partners. If we didn't have a corrupt DOJ who's probably getting a cut of the profits there'd be justice. Too much money being made. Pfizer's profits are going through the roof while people are dying. Just as insightful though is the response the doctor made. They don't know. This is a huge problem. Willful ignorance and hiding behind "official" protocols made by some corrupt administrator doesn't cut it. These docs don't want to rock the boat. They know how quickly questioning their hospital admins would backfire on them. It takes balls of titanium to stand up and say what are you guys doing? I'm not going along with this nonsense.
Far too many doctors are doing this. A couple of docs that I highly respected before Covid are now people I am totally disappointed with. I'm seeing medicine as a racket where I never did before. Very few leaders and way too many followers all feeding from that big trough of money.
Agree 100%. I know several docs who now are on my retard sell out pharma whore list. Many of them just get off seeing their name in print or on the news. Megalomaniacs. The hospital administrators and these whore doctors pushing the vaccines/remdesivir while suppressing ivermectin need jail time at the very least.
It seems some of the most 'educated' are the easiest to brainwash....sorry for your friend.
Problem is with specialists their knowledge is so deep and narrow that they struggle to deal with anything that isn't smack in the middle of their specialty. I had a combination of eye problems, allergies, migraines, and sinus problems that took 40 years to sort out. It wasn't until my allergist read an article that proved many chronic allergy sufferers are actually experiencing migraines that we were able to get me off the dozen meds that weren't working and get me on the two that were needed. Too many specialists working with blinders on.
There are good ones and brainwashed ones, just like the docs. Same for NP/PAs. Many can’t come to terms with the fact that the CDC and FDA are corrupt to the core. If they could wrap their head around that, it would eventually take them where they need to go to start understanding.
Lots are awake, but the system controls everything. Thus, speaking out would be sure termination. If there was another decent job market without healthcare monopolies it would be beneficial to all. However, when a few mega corporations own all the insurance and healthcare it’s almost impossible to compete.
I hope that’s where we are going though. Naturopathic doctors and the release of suppressed cures. These hospitals are responsible for crimes against humanity in my opinion. The executive order that deals with this would result in the seizure of all assets and hopefully bring forth real change to our healthcare system.
And I've heard this is how everyone does it Europe. They know the national health system sucks so bad they'd rather self treat. The pharmacists become defacto family docs.
I thought doctors had some kind of oath of ethics...
Well said. My cardiologist tried to talk me into the vaccine and I told her no because it’s experimental. That was before all of the deaths and side effects were publicized. I can’t wait to see what she has to say next month.
Don't hold your breath, she will likely double down and push it even harder. Bring all the articles with you about the heart issues because in all likely-hood she hasn't even heard about that!
Many of these doctors are simply FN stupid. They simply rely on what Fauci, the hospital administrator & pharmaceutical corporations.
Drs rely heavily on info they get from Rx manufacturers' reps and info from the hospital, disguised as hospital "protocols".
Man. Bravo. Truth always rings true.
100% correcf.
Pfizer has in the contract that if other drugs that cure become available they still have to be paid. So, what other nefarious details are in the contract?
This guy is a cardiologist? Hope he is a better friend than a doctor.
No test ever found covid, no illness was ever covid, not a single case of covid 19 exposed by testing. 100 percent a fraud until... the vax...now we have a covid molecule, in vaxxed people.
I heard a story today that a doctor in a hospital in my area that came to the conclusion that he/she was spike protein poisoned. Took the vaccine a week before and tested himself/herself as he/she was aware of certain symptoms. The test came back showing his/her hemoglobin was off a significant degree. I'm being vague about some details since I don't want anyone being in trouble.
Here we go again. If the doctor doesn't know there is no test determining a Covid variant, then he probably full of shit about the number of cases too.
The same claims were made last year that were debunked.
Who is the doctor and what's his business phone number to verify the claim. What hospital does he work at?
To be fair, he is a cardiologist. He is treating cardiac-related issues. His business most likely is booming with the spike proteins causing many cardiovascular issues, of which MI is included.
Infectious disease doctors, intensivists, and hospitalists will be the docs primarily responsible for the care of covid patients. Most are brainwashed or controlled by the system/hospital administrators.
Systems push for “oneness” where everyone is doing the same thing. They all answer to the head of the snake who is typically the megalomaniac hospital administrator with a business degree and God complex. In this case, that means pushing vaccines, monoclonal antibody infusions, and remdesivir while suppressing cheap outpatient cures like HCQ and ivermectin.
Well, you need to start out being "fair" by dispelling the panic these doctors and hospitals are trying to achieve. From your writing, this doctor seemed to be deceptive until you asked him intelligent questions he couldn't answer. If he was your "friend", friends don't use friends to profit off from. It seems as though this "doctor" wanted you to be a tool for fake propaganda. The seriousness of these narratives cannot be under estimated. We are talking about lock-downs and mandatory jabs. The end of the United States and its Constitution.
You said this "doctor" treated Covid patients and he claimed a surge of Covid illnesses. I don't give a fuck about whether he is a cardiologist or how this might be myocarditis. You said there was a surge of Covid patients. I want to know the name of the hospital to verify it. It's important the truth be told. The un-vaXXXinated have a real threat on their hands of being rounded up and interned. The un-vaXXXinated are light-years ahead of the condemned vaXXXed for survival. They have a sound immune system that God Himself designed. The un-vaXXXed are sanctified by God being made in the image of God. The vaXXXed are the walking dead now; a genetically modified organism; a synthetic product; an abomination, in which it looks like there is no option, but early death.
Doctors are just doing whatever pharma or pharma controlled boss tells them to do. They are no reference.
Yes. And, to lower cost of malpractice insurance, nearly all are part of a larger Med group headed by bureaucrats. Hence, group think, "menus" of what is appropriate care, etc. I see 4 doctors annually for check-ups of various conditions. Universally, the first question is are you vaccinated. And they all were likewise too ill- informed to carry on much of a discussion re: covid. and it's treatments, the PCR test, etc. Oh, but they all did want to cover themselves & made sure they told me to get the jab.
YES...THIS. Its awful they arent "treating" or helping anyone. Saw another poor soul go on a ventilator this am at work.
See!!! This is exactly what I was saying in my thread about my family losing a baby. A surgeon and a pharmacist didn't know what ivermectin was. That is insane!!
Most doctors I've encountered over the years have little interest in non-mainstream treatments. They've been taught that those are for quacks. They have often invested hundreds of thousands of dollars and decades to get where they are and therefore put a great deal of trust into the medical establishment. They believe what it tells them. They're also often very busy people. From their perspective, why would they spent time combing the internet looking for quack cures when they're informed by the best medical system in the world?
You don't have to control each individual to take over. You only have to control the system. Done right, the system will control the individuals.
Same with veterinarians: both are Big Pharma distributors.