This is a long read but it goes real fast.
You have to look at things from a different perspective. Trump talked about negotiations he had with the Taliban regarding the pullout. He never gave us any of the details, he only said he was negotiating. If we are to believe that Trump still has some control of the military as our defacto President, some of this stuff we saw with the Afghanistan debacle may have been negotiated by Trump, that had a unforeseen outcome, please let me explain.
Trump wanted to end the occupation in Afghanistan, we spent a shit ton of money and lives there and it was basically for nothing. Our presence there was only benefiting the CIA through the drug trade. Remember Trump was trying to cut off all of all the revenue streams for the cabal, the CIA is part of the cabal.
What if during negotiations of the pullout with the Taliban, they asked for the ability to protect their country from another takeover like the USA did 20 years earlier. Trump most likely knew that giving the Taliban the military equipment would be frowned upon. Negotiating with (so called) terrorists would have bad optics, so what does he do, let Biden take the responsibility for it. Keep following me.
Before we invaded Afghanistan, the Taliban was destroying the poppy fields. They may not have the same moral standards as people here in the USA but they saw what the drugs were doing to their communities. Turning a large portion of their society in to worthless drug addicts. So in a effort to fix the situation, the Taliban started destroying the poppy fields. Along came the USA (CIA)and replanted the poppy fields. Drug trade from the poppies fed the CIA expenses to pull of more color revolutions throughout the world, pull off terror attacks, prop up dictators, drug cartels spring up that invade our southern border and Europe. It is bad for everyone.
Poppies will only grow in that region of the world(Afghanistan) and if Trump wanted to fix the drug issues in the world, what do you do? Go to the source. Trump knew if he pulled out of Afghanistan it would leave a vacuum that could be exploited by regimes like the CCP. They would come in and fill the shoes of the CIA and reroute the heroin through China back to the USA.
By leaving the military equipment with the Taliban they could protect their country from another takeover by a foreign country looking to exploit the heroin production. Perhaps the Taliban made a promise to Trump to destroy the poppies and in return they wanted the resources to protect their country from a future hostile takeover. Leaving behind $85 billion in military equipment is a small price to pay to shut down the heroin trade. It cleans up our borders, it helps fix the epidemic of overdoses here in the USA, prevents orgs like the CIA from profiting from it and stops foreign leaders from filling the newly created vacuum and Biden took the fall for it. You see why it was necessary for Trump to step aside momentarily?
As far as the people left behind, do we know who was left behind? No we do not. The media could have been gas lighting the American people for one reason. I just told you that the CIA was running the heroin trade out of Afghanistan in to Europe and the USA. What is the possibility the people left behind were CIA drug traffickers? Do we owe these people anything? How many lives have they destroyed? You saw who was making the most noise about the people left behind, CNN. You know that people like Anderson Copper are CIA agents. I am sure that these MSM outlets are filled with CIA mockingbird talking heads who were outraged that their affiliates were being left behind enemy lines. Do you think they care about an aid worker or a interrupter getting left behind, no they don't. They only care about the people that was part of their team, CIA drug trafficking trash.
Now do I know this is exactly how it went down? No, its speculation but , I bet my version is closer to the truth than what the MSM is telling you. Do I know that innocent were not left behind? No, I don't but, we are in a war for our future and their is always collateral damage in a war. Yes, the explosion killing the marines was a horrible event and the only way to prevent events like that is to get out. You can not control a lone wolf terrorist and this event had nothing to do with the pullout negotiations. It was more likely a parting gift from ISIS and their way of saying have a good day, now get the fuck out. It was a unavoidable tragic event, no amount of troop presence could prevent something like this when you have thousands of people running around in complete chaos.
If we are going to save our country and bring world peace we have to stop occupying foreign lands, stop foreign entanglements. We have to cut revenue streams to the cabal. We have to kill the narcotic drug trade. What does the cartels trade in? Drugs and children, Trump is ending both. So before you get all up in arms about the Afghanistan pullout realize you may not have the full picture, none of us do. Just realize the sacrifices we make today will lead to the greater good of tomorrow.
That is your current affairs lesson for the day.
Stay safe and God Bless you and the USA.
WWG1WGA!!!
Edit: One of our anons posted this link from August 29th: Taliban bans opium production. Encourages farmer to grow saffron. (Trust and believe)
These are excellent points. I believe so much is happening behind the scenes. I think of Q’s reference to Hunt For Red October. The war above the water was seen so differently than was truly happening below.
i recently saw that for first time.Thought it would be dated but what a movie! Now i gotta find Sum of all Fears!
When Trump rushed the 💉 it was like the scene where Ramius heads for the torpedo before it could arm itself. I think the Covid the Cabal planned was much more deadly. They had to fake the numbers, flu fatalities almost vanished.
Tupolev launches a torpedo already armed and doesn’t realize he insured his own destruction. MSM, Vax, pharmaceuticals, medical, WHO, NIH, CDC, FDA, FBI, CIA, big tech, social media platforms are self-destructing. They’ve lost their authority to make their edicts. People don’t like to be forced. The more totalitarian they are the more people will fight back.
"No papers?"
Definitely no papers required in USA. Unless you want to go into a restaurant of course.
Crazy Ivan.
"One ping only."
State to state...no papers? Now we are becoming like the USSR
USSR was more about corruption than papers my fren
A Chinese Finger trap you could say.
I watched Sum of All Fears a few months ago. Great movie!
Red October is the best of the Tom Clancy Jack Ryan movies because it was directed by John McTeirnan and it has the best cast: Sean Connery, Sam Neil, Scott Glenn, Richard Jordan, etc
It's also getting a 4K release this October.
This is another great article with things going on behind the scenes (was posted here on GA a couple of weeks ago): https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2021/08/19/afghanistan-tax-funded-child-abuse/
Just a few points: The current leader of Taliban was freed from Pakistani prison by Donald Trump. Pakistan army is building a wall so no more crossings for terrorists to resupply. Shows a great map of the heroin flow.
He goes quite deep in the explanation of the optics. Afghanistan is a country that would not accept any ruler if they appeared as a puppet (think the British in the 19th century). This gives them a "victory" they can use to appear legit to their people while the blame goes on Biden and Dems.
There's plenty of more, some that I don't agree with, but overall great read.
Yes, it gave me a total different view on what is happening behind the MSM propaganda
Plausible. Thanks for thinking this through and sharing it. One question at the crux of it: would the equipment left behind be enogh to thwart an attack from a major military like the CCP? I don't think it would, so all I would add to your theory is a refinement along the lines of this: Trump and Xi are secretly aligned... neither want the drugs, but their respective deep states do... so, let the Taliban destroy the poppy fields, and know that Xi is not interested in them, and when the equipment gets left behind, it is all on Biden.
Ccp are incompetent cowards; there are just a lot of them. They only exist bc we allow it; because we are “nice.”
Cuz the DS require polarizing teams for future world wars.
also corrupt
Would it be the actual CCP though? The optics of another superpower invading Afghanistan would be pretty fucked up.
But what if the Taliban was armed in order to defend themselves against ISIS (proxy-army). There are videos on combat footage sites that purport to show ISIS vs Taliban engagements. and there are a shit load of them posted in the last 2 months
How easy would it be for ISIS to replace the Taliban, and then MSM just pretends it was Taliban all along.
That's totally possible. Equipment left behind to allow Taliban to defeat Isis.
They better hurry. They can't fix a fucking thing if it breaks and they really shit fast.
Very good point I never thought of it
Had been thinking the same thing pretty much that you just posted. Reminds me of another bit of nonsense from the media.
Do you remember how the media lauded Khashoggi? And claimed MBS was a horrible murderer and had him chopped into pieces? Well, the Khashoggi's were well known arms dealers and he was one of pedo/trafficker Alwaleed's pals. IMO he was in on the plot to assassinate MBS and paid the price for it. The media claiming he was just an adorable innocent lil ole journalist was typical media gaslighting. He was involved with pedos, traffickers, warmongers, and likely involved in the VEGAS massacre (assassination plot).
I mean, the Taliban did well enough with AKs and IEDs agaibst the U.S. for a long time. Equip them with precision rifles and nightvision, that evens the playing field.
I am by no means pro taliban, but I have learned to never underestimate my enemy. They did pretty good being low tech against the U.S., give them some capability, i.e. rifles and night vision and they could hold off another more developed force for longer and better. I appreciate the OPs perspective on this.
Add to this the fact that jihadi belief of death in combat is rewarded by entry into Paradise and you have someone with nothing to lose and everything to gain..
agree
Look what a hard time the Mujahedeen gave both the USSR and us and every other empire that was destroyed in that graveyard. With better arms I don't think the CCP would fair any better.
These have been my thoughts as well. Keep in mind the new president of Afghanistan was held in a prison in Pakistan until 2018. Trump and Pompeo were the ones who arranged for his release.
Damn this is a good theory.
Remember the opiate crisis was a huge platform for Trump at one point. This fits with that.
Yes. This does fit the big picture long game of how Trump does things. He sees the problem- for example, an ice skating rink not getting built in NYC that his family would enjoy using. He doesn't just throw more money at the situation or make a lot of noise about it not getting done. He finds out what is really holding up the construction and gets that problem addressed and finally the rink is built and his family enjoys the skating rink like everyone else in the city. The "war on drugs" started with Nixon and became a more intractable quagmire than Viet Nam. The DS 'war on terror' was just an elaborate excuse to keep the ineffectual DS war on drugs ongoing.
Trump was called upon to serve and he used his genius problem solving and Art of the Deal and his showmanship, where he is always pointing the attention of the Left and MSM at an inconsequential action of capturing a pawn to make their blood boil, while quietly and effectively stealing their queen and putting them in checkmate once again.
The policies implemented ostensibly in earnest about the "War on Drugs" became a war on vulnerable people- like Biden's bill that put more POC in prison for low level drug crimes without effecting any positive change in those communities.
Policies implemented under the auspices of the "War on Terror" became a war on American freedoms and a declaration of forever war somewhere at the perpetual cost of our brightest and best young blood. This is long game big picture multi-dimensional chess and Trump and the patriots are cutting off every stream of income to the DS war chests and catching them in the trap of their insatiable greed. The above Top Secret factors and strategies that we do not know about yet will be fascinating to see when they can be revealed.
I'm gonna need more popcorn while I get involved in local governance here in my little corner of the world.
A war on drugs is so the Cia can compete in making money. We take out the competition or at least extort them to let them continue.
CIA agent says “Ok Manuel this is how you set up a real supply chain - just like we did in Laos”
If the Taliban actually stops the drug trade instead of using it for their own profits. We'll see.
https://www.livemint.com/politics/news/taliban-move-to-ban-opium-production-in-afghanistan-11630248904465.html
Interesting.
Poppies can be grown nearly anywhere FYI
Afghanistan is the largest producer.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-opium-poppy-producing-countries.html
Yes indeed they are, but it is in no way exclusive to the middle east.
Hmmm Myanmar…🤔 Where have I heard that recently…?
Flanders Field for instance. Between the crosses row on row.
This makes sense to me. This is how Trump wanted it so he let Biden take the heat. And, this explains how Milley is not one of the bad guys.
Solid post and just about as believable as anything else I've read. I like it.
Glad you posted that; saved me having to look up the exact formulas (I knew they were not even close to being the same, other than both having carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, but based on that alcohol and gasoline are the same :) )
Someone has already pointed out that Roundup is not the same as Agent Orange, although they're both from Monsanto. Other than that, you have good points. It's just a shame about poppy because there are good things to come from the flowers beside their beauty. Not only do the seeds make tasty muffin toppings, but codeine and morphine are effective plant-derived medicines. CBD oil has health benefits, but smoking weed is maybe not a good idea. Heck, I eat bananas but I'm not gonna smoke a banana peel. God has given us good plants that can be used to heal people, but they can be corrupted to be used to hurt people too.
Been on this track for a while. The only people left there were operatives for the most part. I heard Steven Miller tell the press that “we never promised to bring any of them here.” It’s their country, they didn’t do us a favor. I’m saddened but staying there as a contractor for money has consequences. God bless all our fellow vets and active duty (Bagram 09 so sad).
Sorry to break through the 17 comment plateau, but this would explain how the China-made fentanyl has become such a dominant illegal drug in the U.S. (and rest of world?, I don't know). The question is, does the CIA have deals with China to profit off the fentanyl?
Easing of importation fits the bill?
Appreciate the perspective
Excellent Post OP. Think about that bomber who killed the 13. THEY KNEW ABOUT IT and the timing involved. I’m sure we ALL briefly considered...wtf?! So essentially our guys LET IT HAPPEN. Optics & reverse psychology to make CNN-liberal trash look “so caring”. Obviously more to it, but It fits.
Good post. Others have pointed out how poppies can be grown anywhere, but they are definitely harvested the most in Afghanistan by far.
We have no idea if that guy they hung from a helicopter was some clown or not. I have had the same ideas about a lot of this stuff and it's why I appreciate coming here first every day because this place isn't for the normie-ass conservatives who listen to Charlie Kirk or Ben Shapiro.
Something else to consider is how those Afghans "fleeing in terror" had smiles on their faces. Not to self-aggrandize or promote myself here, but I touched on this in a video I made last month. This link has a time code to skip to the part I am talking about.
https://odysee.com/@stevethefishdotnet:2/2021-august-channel-update-part-2:2?r=4oqf7kwhoBPcQ8En3yuB91AyHEWfEaGY&t=5776
You will get my vote of confidence when Afghanistan’s poppy fields are lit ablaze 🔥 But definitely points for a different perspective!
Taliban is already talking about ending the poppy trade.
https://www.livemint.com/politics/news/taliban-move-to-ban-opium-production-in-afghanistan-11630248904465.html
When the Taliban destroyed them in 2001 the world's supply of heroin dropped by 65%.
Clowns spread the narrative that Afghan farmers would starve to death without poppies and that's why Obama "stopped" any attempt to regulate them (although I doubt Bush was regulating them at all).
But do you know what the Taliban told the Afghan farmers to grow instead? Saffron.
Saffron grows well where poppies grow. It's also a $$$$$ money spice (the most expensive spice in the world) The Afghan farmers will make far more money off saffron that poppies because they can sell it legitimately and don't have to get robbed by black market smugglers.
The solution was easy all along. So why did the US gov under Bush and Obama never just tell the farmers to grow saffron when they could make a killing off that and sell it through legit means? I think we all know the answer.
In fact, Afghan farmers are relieved and happy to grow saffron. The poppy trade is dangerous and reliant on criminals and smugglers who take more than they should.
I'm not an expert on Afghanistan, by any means, but...
Didn't Trump gut the Taliban by killing (I can't remember how many) most of their top leaders?
Didn't Trump get Baradar released from a Pakistani prison, and made a deal to have him in charge of the Taliban in exchange for some conditions as to how he would govern the country when we pulled out?
Afghanistan has been the hub of Deep State operation for decades. The DS wanted the war to never end, but it just ended, and now Afghanistan has been taken away from the DS, and control given to the Taliban. Maybe the Taliban isn't the ideal option in a perfect world, but it seems to be the best option available. In fact, if you think about it, why would Biden admin. give the order to pull out when their goal is to keep the war going forever? What if (Trump/Q/military DIA) did the abrupt pullout (not ordered by Biden admin. or Lloyd Austin)? Biden takes the blame, and Trump gets the DS out of Afghanistan, like he arranged.
Seems to me that Trump has eradicated the Deep State from Saudi Arabia, North Korea, and now Afghanistan.... let's see if Iran is next. Maybe the 85 billion $ worth of equipment we left behind will be used to liberate Iran.
So, presuming this is true and equipment is going to Iran, do you think this is a good thing? (Not being snarky, I promise!)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/biden-effect-taliban-filmed-moving-captured-us-military-vehicles-left-behind-joe-biden-iran/
GWP is a good source but they can be wrong sometimes. What if the equipment was being moved to the Afghan/Iran border to keep out unwanted visitors. All they show is a picture of a truck and a few humvees, nothing solid to verify the claims.
It’s game theory
Exactly, Trump is trying to win a war, he will say what needs to be said. If he is working behind the scenes to take out the CIA, he would be inclined to tell white lies. He is trying to save us from the globalists.
Eh, it's too stupid even for Biden. He'd have had to overrule military people, and I can't see that happening. They'd probably just ignore him if he tried.
Same goes for all the Afghanis brought here that weren’t vetted. NOT part of the plan at all.
Didn’t hear about THAT one. Dangit. I heard about Fort McCoy(sp?) & 2 sexual predators tho.
Spent some time training at Ft Bliss. Sickening.
No, but that kind of thing happens all the time in war. It's a series attempts to pick the least bad option in any given situation. There is typically not a clean or easy solution, which is why only people with an incredible amount of mettle can handle being the decision maker.
Assuming it's true and I am not sure of anything anymore, think about Churchill letting the Germans bomb London when he could have stopped them because the he had the Enigma? He decided that it would be worse to let them know in terms of lives lost and extending the war. Or dropping the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima? Those are very bad least bad options and you can second guess them all day.
But why bring all the people here?
To save them. They were likely aiding the USA. This doesn’t make them CIA though. If left behind they might be executed. Do you think the locals would easily forgive other locals who had been aiding the occupiers?
Puppies grow in California. Naturally, all over the place. You can see the hills decorated with God’s glory most times of the year.
I hate Siri! But that’s hilarious
California poppies (Eschscholzia californica) are not the same as the Opium (Papaver Somniferum) Poppies
I had a heritage strain in my garden, of Opium poppies from the Otago Goldfields that was brought here by the Chinese gold miners during the 19th century. They were doubles and triples, very beautiful, the bees loved them. Unfortunately, thieves love them as well. So last year there was one plant, and it was not even three feet high, when it disappeared.
Oh who knew. I guess you did not me
Same problem in Greece. Their religion is against neutering the animals.
(Although I don't see what this has to do with Afghanistan.)
It’s supposed to say poppies.
I hate Siri
"They may not have the same moral standards as people here in the USA but they saw what the drugs were doing to their communities. Turning a large portion of their society in to worthless drug addicts."
The same could be said of China. After all, this is why the opium wars were fought against the British in the 19th century. It's amazing to think we've allowed so much fentanyl and other drugs into our country without ever declaring war on anyone responsible. As Trump said, China is responsible for producing the drugs and smuggling them into the US through South and central America. Has history taught us anything?
I believe you are on target. The new Taliban didn't resemble the old. These guys seem well trained and more disciplined. The deaths shown on TV "news" may well be house cleaning. Can't be sure, but something seems off, and this may be the reason.
Yes! Now, what about the 13 dead soldiers? I think it was a FF orchestrated by the cabal/military industrial complex to get Americans enraged enough to demand that we send back troops and retake Afghanistan. For once, we didn't take the bait, thank God!
Yes, the deep state may have pulled off the attack on the marines, that is their MO. Seen it happen when pulling out of Syria with the chemical attacks that was blamed on Assad.
Would Trump risk the irreparable optics of disclosure of this kind of deal, either by a Trump admin insider or the Taliban themselves? It would destroy him forever politically...
It’s not about him, don’t you see?
Afghanistan looked like a slush fund for the DS and contractors.
That being said, our objection has always been the manner we pulled out, not the objective of pulling out. The moment Resident Biden breached the peace deal terms, the pull out belonged to him.
This would explain the plane footage where the plane looks like an inflatable prop. It would also explain the “list” of US citizens left behind. Was this a list of cia black hats for the Taliban to take out? This would be an extremely convenient way to allow justified executions without raising suspicion from anyone really.
It’s also a great way turn even more people against Biden and pave the way for whatever they have in store for him.
Your theory makes more sense than anything else I’ve read or heard and it’s the only one that explains every aspect of the debacle.
These are my thoughts as well. I saw CNN talking heads squealing as well about those left behind. They were not talking about patriots. They don't give a damn about patriots. You know who they meant by those "left behind".
Also it looks like the Taliban is already telling farmers to stop growing poppies and MSM is freaking out about this:
https://www.livemint.com/politics/news/taliban-move-to-ban-opium-production-in-afghanistan-11630248904465.html
Last time the Taliban destroyed 90% of the poppies, heroin dropped 65% worldwide. The media rushed to say this drop in heroin was horrible because that meant people would use fentanyl and meth instead. How dumb is that thinking?
Heroin and opium would not be such a dominant drug if they were easy to replace.
I think you're post is well thought out and similar to my thoughts on it.
Also what Afghanistan needs is unity. If the US "leaves" them a government, will they ever trust that government? It'll just be seen as a US puppet. But if the US is forced out, then that government will be seen as "the heroes who threw out our occupiers".
Optics matter.
Of course, whoever is president will look horrible if the US is thrown out. So you needed Biden there to take the blame.
Thank you for the link, that confirms my theory.
Even more interesting in the link is how it cuts up the MSM narrative that if we didn't let the farmers grow poppies they'd all starve. Taliban was like "just grow saffron". Farmers like "Oh, that works."
Saffron is HUGE money making crop. The narrative was always that farmers would grow broke and die without poppies, but the solution was easy all along. Where poppies grow well, so does saffron which is just as valuable.
Saffron sells for big bucks and is the most expensive spice in the world:
https://moneyinc.com/saffron-so-expensive/
Afghan farmers always had an alternative to the poppy trade that would bring them just as much income and was not destructive like heroin. The MSM lied through its teeth that Afghan farmers needed poppies and that Afghan's economy would be destroyed if the Taliban banned poppies.
Notice how the Afghan farmers are cool af with selling saffron instead. They know what it sells for.
Afghanistan can get rich off the saffron. They don't need to sell poppies. The only losers are the drug cartels and the clowns and the cabal.
Another media lie is going down in flames.
Thank you again, its obvious Trump is cleaning up the mess made in the middle east by previous administrations and it feels really good to me. Getting rid of the deep state and things miraculously rectify itself. The CIA will be dead one day soon.
I can embrace your idea bc I believe that Trump had a big hand in the pull out from Afghan behind the scenes. Biden just fumbled the pull out big time. I'd not be surprised with the military equipment in exchange for "something" Trump wanted. I also believe that Trump would have come after the Taliban if they interfered with our military trying to leave. Biden and his screw up's in the military/State Dept. only made it worse by trying to give him a "star" moment.
I was telling a friend just the same thing the other day.
I remember an interview ~2-3 weeks ago where President Trump said that he suspected that there are as many as 45K Americans left behind in Afghanistan. When I heard that I thought, no way, why would there even be that many there.
There's no way there could be that many CIA operatives there, could there? I really have no idea. Why do I even mention this? Maybe it will spark a thought in someone that I'm not getting.
Trump could be inflating the numbers just to make Biden look worse. I'm not sure how many people it would take to run the opium trade. Its a multi billion dollar operation that would attract all sorts of criminals. I'm sure the child traffickers were mixed in. You have people at the top that would never get their hands dirty, farmers, opium processors, drug runners and everyone in between.
Ive heard this theroy from a couple of places and I agree that it is very plausible.
Great critical thinking, Patriot! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great thinking and writing. I figured this was all Trump’s plan but I hadn’t spent time to reconcile what the MSM said vs. ground truth.
I knew that since it happened when Trump said it would (Sep) that it had to be his plan.
Loved this. I was asked by my friend about Afghanistan. I said I honestly don’t know. Things are not always as they appear. I can’t help but believe it is part of the show. We are watching a movie.