Thanks for the info fren. I do not see how anyone would consider your post of the Shill nature when in fact you are providing information that is contrary to the MSM narrative. I fully believe that any shortage at the store shelf level is completely a manufactured crisis - whether that's of white hat origin to damage the cabal or of a black hat origin to damage the US economy is the real question. Question for your dad, is there any backlog being caused by the containers not being able to be moved out of the docks, like no drivers or trains available to move the containers to end destination?
Thank you for the context of the situation. I concur with everything you are saying. I live in Long Beach and often see cargo ships lining up down the coast this time of year. It does seem a bit heavier than usual but during this time of year it’s not uncommon. On a side note, no shelves are anywhere near empty here in the South LA County area. Not even a hint of it. The only difference I’ve noticed is the price of ground beef at Costco has gone up only .50 a lb. I know beef comes by land and not sea but just giving context because I see some crazy claims on here about the price of some things. Gas prices for sure but food I haven’t noticed so much.
I’m in Washington state. Our stores are ok. There’s some supply issues, thinking it’s more people hoarding, maybe. Our food prices have definitely gone way up. Ribeye use to go for $12.95-$16.95 per lb. It’s now $18.95-22.95 lb. Beef has gone up. All other meats, eggs, butter...have gone up somewhat but not like beef. I have noticed that things like pepsi and some other junk foods have actually gone down.
mcdonalds beef is actually not bad. on a keto/ carnivore diet, stopping at mcdonalds for a beef patty (or 6) and a slice (or 6) of cheese and you can enjoy cheap cooked beef. (more expensive than cooking yourself, but that's not always an option) As a primarily beef eater, I can confirm that their beef is real, you can taste fake AF beef quickly. mcdonalds is real beef. haters f*** off, there are good reasons to hate mcdonalds, but spreading lies about "beef quality" won't get us there.
well at least in Canada here they source from Alberta (Texas North) so ya its not terrible. It isnt the ???? random cardboard meat from A&W which smells like rats and road kill.
Its the bread that gives me the McShits, but I refuse to believe gluten intolerance is real.
Everything is higher in AR. Ground beef went from $2.98 lb to over $6 and no less than $4.99, same w/ other meats and some of our shelves have been bare since covid on just everyday items. You never know if you will be able to find what you want.
We don’t eat fast food and I was only paying attention to beef as a marker but will have to start tracking other items. I have no doubt many things have increased. Lots of variables between us as well though.
I will have to start paying attention to more items. I was using ground beef as a marker but I’m sure many things have increased as well and most likely to a greater degree.
I grew up in Pedro too! Born 1952 at the hospital on 7th. St.. Went to 7th. St. Elementary, Dana Jr. and SPHS. Lived on Rapallo Ave. and 17th. St. Left for NC in 1989. I LOVE Pedro, it was the BEST!!!! Oh yeah, my grandfather was the engineer on the old ferry boat, before they built the Vincent Thomas bridge.
I just remembered my uncle Hank was a longshoreman for 40 years, ask your father if he remembers Hank Olsen. It might have been a little before his time though, my uncle started in the 50's, BEFORE they even had containers. I remember him always talking about how shitty it was to unload bananas...BY HAND!
I used to hang out in Averill Park when I was a kid and when I was in high school we used to hang out in Sunken City, right off Pt. Fermin Park. Remember Walkers Cafe, I drank a LOT of beer there! I played JV baseball for the Pirates, Alan Ashby and Gary Maddox were on the Varsity team and went on to play major league ball. Alan was the catcher for Nolan Ryan of the Houston Astros and Gary played CF for the Phillies. We all rode the same bus to games. Ah the memories!!!
We lived in Pedro (on S. Leland St.) back in the early 90s. Pina's on 9th was the best Mexican restaurant EVER and I miss that place so much. I hope they are still kicking.
Thinking the bass turds with the MSM are attempting to talk us into a shortage frenzy over Chinese junk. I am more concerned about our farmers and farmland.
I'm in rural Ohio, I see empty sections on the shelves but I believe, in my area, it is just people hoarding. Example - in the soda aisle, plenty of coke, no Barq's root beer in the appropriate section. No Grape Crush, but plenty of Orange. So, I think some prepper-pothead-moms are probably getting ahead of the curve and grabbing their favorite things in large quantity. Something else disappearing early - canned pumpkin (of course), and other baking necessities (choc chips, raw nuts, etc.) So, to avoid a disappointing baking season, if you see it, get it now.
Edit - the above was just a food report - in home improvement news, lots of the chinese-made tools and tool sets (hand tools and power tools) are not getting restocked these days.
I personally believe white hats are accelerating the collapse of the world economy to crush the cabal globalists. Their policies are doing a great job of destroying the economy but it needs to accelerate to take everything down at once and the whitehats are doing that with supply chain disruptions, real or imagined.
I've been wondering what the "normal" backlog of ships waiting to be unloaded looks like. And it makes sense that it would be cyclical / seasonal. It would be easy for the msm to say "look at this!" and most people would have no idea what normal is.
Same with hospitalizations. Reporting a hospital is 97% full - uh yeah, that's the goal. You don't want an empty hospital if you are going to pay the bills. No one would ever say what a "normal" hospital capacity was pre-covid.
Also - hospitals have bed classifications that 'flex' with need. How you designate those beds affects reimbursement and staffing requirements. You can say your 6-bed ICU is 'full', however, if needed, you can flex an additional 20 beds to ICU beds by adjusting equipment and staffing levels. Lies, damn lies, and .. you know the thing.
Yes but someone posted just a couple days ago a side by side photo, purportedly of the Port of Long Beach with no ships out there from before the current crisis, and one from this week with dozens.
I saw that, and it was helpful in that it tried to make a comparison.
However, were the photos taken at approximately the same time of year (OP said ships waiting in harbour is not unusual at this time of year) and at approximately the same part of the harbour?
Knowing the answers to those questions or having alternate baseline info would help to sort out what part, if any, of this story is true and what, if any, is part of a disinfo campaign.
Spot on! I laughed when I read the Biden Administration asked the big logistics companies to work 24/7 as soon as possible. This is their peak season and they always work 24/7 during peak. Sad the Administration is trying to take credit for standard practice at UPS and FedEx.
Ships everywhere are being unloaded but the containers are not moving out of the port facilities and it's not for lack of truck drivers. There's a massive lack of chassis to haul the containers on. These things are the big issue right now because there are more containers than chassis.
My friend talks about how driver's will straight up beef over getting the good ones since they have to inspect them before hooking up. Nobody wants to wait around losing money and daylight for one to become available.
Meanwhile on the East Coast, the ports of Savannah, Jacksonville, Canaveral, Port Everglades and Miami seem to be doing business as usual with no media panic over ships backing up to unload.
I was just going to point this out, I noticed no media outlet has reported on Florida, I wonder what percentage of the nations goods come in through ports in the state? I'm just assuming it's a shorter trek to the north east from Europe, perhaps Florida isn't as busy due to a longer route?
Usually...only upon arrival....unless they have reasonable suspicions to investigate prior to departure. Transport truck seals container...delivers to port..arrives at new destination...customs breaks seal for inspection.
Do you mean the crane operators? Or the drivers that have chassis the containers that containers are set on?
Qualified no. If a container has a refrigeration unit, it is pretty clear that it is climate controlled, most likely food.
The crane operator and supercargo would have that information possibly, but the weight rather than the contents are what is important.
Most containers are not opened on the dock or at a container freight station. That is only if you are shipping small amounts. Only in certain circumstances would the contents come in to play --inspection, customs, ATF.
From the offload side he’s aware. Does he know the trucking side of the equations about getting the containers out of the port property. Does he know anyone on that side to get a bigger picture of the bottle ne k. I’ve seen other reports to confirm his already. I also saw a report that the containers are being emptied but the cargo is in warehouses. So seeing that side would be of interest if he knows. Thanks
I don't have much knowledge of the shipping industry, but
OP already stated that the port of LA was ALWAYS running 24/7, so this is nothing new. I don't know if you are referring to a different port, but LA, at least, seems to be operating normally.
The Lunar New Year happens every year and not until the end of January or into February. It does go on for a period of time, but I am skeptical that it would interrupt work for more than two weeks - and likely not more than one week. Blaming the Lunar New Year for any of the current or expected problems is unrealistic.
Lumpers work in a warehouse unloading cargo from the containers, as I recall. The warehouses didn't use to work 24/7, but as far as loading & unloading containers onto the docks that was a 24/7 operation when I was in shipping 25 years ago.
It's a lumper, not a pumper, lol. Someone that unloads the freight that's inside a container at a warehouse. Used to be done primarily by Teamsters but they came up with a "50 mile rule" or something like that saying it has to be done by ILWU.
I've heard the same thing from others, and they also believe the goods are being held in warehouses. They say the containers are leaving the port at a good clip as well, but containers aren't returning at the same rate. No way to verify this information, but a little thought experiment. Why would this be?
One idea. If you are Walmart, and you know there is about to be massive inflation, would you want to sell for currency today that is rapidly going to lose value, or would you instead hold tangible goods that you could sell for more next month? And since you lack warehouse storage for that much, you might just stack the full containers somewhere, rather than sending them back. Oh, and you'd probably also pre-order a lot from your Chinese suppliers, trying to buy as much as you can right now at the cheapest possible prices.
Seems to me if I knew the economic reset was about to happen, I might consider hoarding stuff and not stocking the retail stores right now as well. Most of these big chains get 90 days credit with their vendors. Fiat currency might not be worth much in 90 days, but containers full of goods will be.
The only difference between us and the big chain stores in this regard is that they are doing it on an industrial scale and preventing us from being able to do it ourselves. Toilet paper anyone? I bet Walmart has container loads of the stuff somewhere ready to hit the market when inflation has pushed the price high enough.
So if you have a chance, ask your dad if he has any insight as to possible delays on getting containers cleared and out of the port. Or any obvious shortage of trucks? Truck chassis? Are the containers clogging up the port, or are they being hauled away as quickly as they are unloaded? Are empty containers being returned at the same rate they are leaving?
Cost is considerably higher in all aspects over the last year including customs clearance.
Our forwarders are Golden! Everything arranged door to door.
Not in the industry but I'm not surprised about the rising costs. Higher fuel prices and higher taxes means higher costs. Only dumocrats can't figure that math out.
When containers aren't removed from the port in a weeks time DEMURAGE fees DAILY are incurred and they are STEEP. It is doubtful any shipper would let their goods sit in the port for any reason and allow the DEMURAGE to accrue to exceed the value of the container.
I have a Marshall Class 5 that I added a Variable Voltage Reduction circuit to and it works great. Nice crunch/distortion at bedroom levels. I also have load boxes but, I reserve those for taking just a bit of volume off for live gigs. They color the sound too much if you dial them back too far.
There are several types of load boxes, some as expensive as a decent amp. The ones I use are called an L-pad. Basically a rheostat and a large wattage resistor. Not everyone likes them but, they are economical and work well if you use them within reason.
Thanks for the share Fren. Don't doubt what you're saying. Would like to share this guys link who has done very well covering this issue since the Evergiven deal.
Thank you for the insight you've provided into the situation there. I knew nothing about the average workload in a day at the ports and this makes things much clearer.
That the ILWU is leftist isn't a surprise. Or at least it shouldn't be. Please look up (or ask your father) about the wobblies, July 5th (ever wonder why he always had the 5th off), and Harry Bridges (he has a chair endowed in his name at the Univerity of Washington).
The saying was "The west coast is communist; the east coast is mob".
It's just the ILWU has always been very, very left wing. Not always a bad thing, btw. Harry Bridges was the founder of the ILWU and first president. What is done and why can be found in his wiki for a short read.
It's very important to research a "conspiracy" before echoing it to peers and social media. A lot of people will subconsciously take ONE debunked "conspiracy" from you and then discredit everything else you say after, yet give the Brandon regime and press passes because deep down they don't want to think any of this is true.
I myself have stayed away from the port issues, but do admit I haven't spent the time to really look into it like I do with other things I do share such as the Great Reset agenda and encouraging people I know to get their money out of mainstream banks immediately.
Hey thanks for putting this info out there - you're not a shill. You're providing a point of view that so few of us have. My question would be, are there any counterparts on the Atlantic Ocean/east coast that he is in touch with? Are they reporting the same or different? I haven't noticed a whole lot of empty shelves in the stores I go to except a CVS that seemed to be sold out of nail polish remover. That's all. I only know that because I walked in there specifically for nail polish remover.
I saw a report earlier today that noted a lack of truck tractors because of California regulations restricting the types and age of the trucks. Bullshit or not?
The recipient of the container must remove the container from the port in 1 week from arrival and ONLY upon clearing customs and all tariffs paid. Otherwise...the recipient pays daily DEMURAGE fees that are absolutelt insane (repeat daily fine) until the container is removed. No recipient wants DEMURAGE!!!
Maybe the DUMBS have enough food and meds, now need to make sure all the rooms/apartments for the elites are accessorized and decorated. "Dollar" type stores are low on kitchen and bathroom supplies (utensils and cleaning items). Have been reading/videos on a lot of shortages on bedding, linens, kitchen towels, etc. and now BIG shortages of favorite and in demand Christmas toys and electronics. And what about the furniture shortages?
HHHUUUMMMMM.....Sounds to me like someone is setting up "homes"
I’m from the UK and they keep talking about fuel shortages, empty shelves, and a lack of truck drivers in the MSM. Other than the panic buying of fuel that caused long queues and a temporary fuel shortage for around a week, I haven’t experienced anything else personally, that includes any empty shelves in the supermarkets.
I have heard about someone who put a deposit down on a car and it could take up to 2 years to arrive with no guarantee. And some car parts are hard to get for repair, but I had the same issue last year when my car needed a new part, and took about 2 weeks to arrive.
The thing is, logically, I think this is planned propaganda to wake people up. Because I cannot imagine Q, who wants to minimise causalities in this war, is going to allow millions of people to starve because of essentials shortages.
What I can imagine the plan to be is exactly this. YOU’RE WATCHING A MOVIE. Think about all the CEO’s at companies that stepped down and were replaced under Trump/White Hats. Who’s to say all these well known companies and brands, Sony, Microsoft, car manufacturers, “the global chip shortage”, “oil shortage” “food shortage” “energy shortage” etc… that’s all white hat propaganda from the companies and governments themselves, because the goal is to push people to the precipice to wake people up and spread the great awakening. No jab no job, massive fines, high energy prices, cancelled flights, it’s working quite effectively wouldn’t you say so? Stirring the pot and fire in people.
Most of these things don’t hurt people to a large degree right now (unlike full blown fascism and communism), people are scared of losing their jobs and income, and all these no jab no job deadlines, but it’s just fear, temporary, it has a purpose, directing the blame to the current corrupt governments. The whole system is going to collapse anyway and will need replacing, so make sure the disdain is at the right people, so people won’t care once they’re replaced.
It’s like the financial collapse and collapse of fiat currency. We know it’s going to happen. But do you really think white hats and Trump are going to let everyone’s savings and hard work and pensions which are in fiat currency (£,$ etc…) are going to have absolutely nothing, and only the 0.01% or wise people who invested in bullion will have wealth in the future? No of course not. Sure hyperinflation might happen, sure currencies might collapse, but it will be restructured, and wealth stolen over centuries by the deep state, will be redistributed back to the countries and citizens.
These was even a comment about farmers getting paid to burn their crops or be fined by the government, and one farmer anon here said it’s business as usual for him and his farmer friends and haven’t heard of this except online.
It’s all about pushing people to the precipice using fear and directing the blame on current governments.
There is a video circulating, I believe of the Port of L.A., showing trucks backed up waiting for loads, and none of the six (?) cranes operating. Do the cranes periodically go "down" for maintenance (altogether?), or are there meetings that dock workers have to attend?
Just trying to jive together what you wrote vs. what's seen on the video.
You're right. You won't see the crane move when loading cargo because it doesn't. At the start of a job they will position in line with the hold they are loading/unloading. The crane will drop the gear, which hook onto the top of the container and then lift the container off the chassis and it will move towards the ship and set the container into the hold. Then the reverse for off loading. The crane itself does not move, and this video is not clear.
I'm curious where that video was shot from. My truck driver friend said there are people standing around just scouting for people trying to film stuff because it's a big ass NoNo in the port.
As I recall, cranes don't load containers onto chassis for outbound drivers, only for the driver to get them to the place where they stack the containers and then a very large forklift moves them onto the stack. The same forklift will place the containers onto the chassis for the driver picking it up for delivery.
You're only going to see the cranes moving when a ship is in port, loading or unloading the ship.
Can you ask your dad if truckers or trains are picking up containers at the same rate that they have been before the "shortage" or are the "cans" sitting in the dock area unable to leave for final delivery
I am a supply chain guy. I have been in the industry for 30 years. That port is highly automated, meaning, they have robot chassis that will take a container. Minimal people and labor involved compared to 10 years ago. None of this makes any sense to me. There are also other circumstances, i.e. the State of CA has mandates on the carriers/draymen that their trucks have to meet certain emission standards or they cannot pull from the port. Trucking hours of service are also artificially placed on how much work someone can do, or how long someone can be on duty. During the 2020 shutdown, the hours of service were waived. I am still waiting on the safety reports to see if drivers were more unsafe during this time. On the other side of the pond, there is a shortage of drivers in China. We have hundreds of containers that are ready to ship, but there are no empty containers, nor space available on ships. Last year, a container 40ft cost us $2500 to get here (Port to Door) that same container is now $25,000. The only reason we don't make this product line in the US, is we can buy it delivered for cheaper than we can source the raw materials in the US. Every thing else we manufacture here 24/7, 360 (we shut down production for Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Years, and 4th of July) The resident is a joke saying work 24/7 and the problem will be resolved. Wal Mart was their to back him up. Wal Mart DC's have ALWAYS been 24/7. They cannot get labor right now to unload trucks or load trucks out. We supply grocery goods and we have customers who are out of stock on the shelf, but cannot take delivery of our goods because they don't have the labor in the warehouse to take delivery. There are so many more intricacies weaved into this than just saying open up 24/7. Rant over. OP tell your pops thank you for keeping the economy going. Without hard working folks like him, everything grinds to a halt as we are seeing.
Thanks for the info fren. I do not see how anyone would consider your post of the Shill nature when in fact you are providing information that is contrary to the MSM narrative. I fully believe that any shortage at the store shelf level is completely a manufactured crisis - whether that's of white hat origin to damage the cabal or of a black hat origin to damage the US economy is the real question. Question for your dad, is there any backlog being caused by the containers not being able to be moved out of the docks, like no drivers or trains available to move the containers to end destination?
Thank you for the context of the situation. I concur with everything you are saying. I live in Long Beach and often see cargo ships lining up down the coast this time of year. It does seem a bit heavier than usual but during this time of year it’s not uncommon. On a side note, no shelves are anywhere near empty here in the South LA County area. Not even a hint of it. The only difference I’ve noticed is the price of ground beef at Costco has gone up only .50 a lb. I know beef comes by land and not sea but just giving context because I see some crazy claims on here about the price of some things. Gas prices for sure but food I haven’t noticed so much.
I’m in Washington state. Our stores are ok. There’s some supply issues, thinking it’s more people hoarding, maybe. Our food prices have definitely gone way up. Ribeye use to go for $12.95-$16.95 per lb. It’s now $18.95-22.95 lb. Beef has gone up. All other meats, eggs, butter...have gone up somewhat but not like beef. I have noticed that things like pepsi and some other junk foods have actually gone down.
I'd like a triple McShitter soyburger with extra GMO and a 1gal aspartame diet coke.
mcdonalds beef is actually not bad. on a keto/ carnivore diet, stopping at mcdonalds for a beef patty (or 6) and a slice (or 6) of cheese and you can enjoy cheap cooked beef. (more expensive than cooking yourself, but that's not always an option) As a primarily beef eater, I can confirm that their beef is real, you can taste fake AF beef quickly. mcdonalds is real beef. haters f*** off, there are good reasons to hate mcdonalds, but spreading lies about "beef quality" won't get us there.
well at least in Canada here they source from Alberta (Texas North) so ya its not terrible. It isnt the ???? random cardboard meat from A&W which smells like rats and road kill.
Its the bread that gives me the McShits, but I refuse to believe gluten intolerance is real.
want fries with that?
Everything is higher in AR. Ground beef went from $2.98 lb to over $6 and no less than $4.99, same w/ other meats and some of our shelves have been bare since covid on just everyday items. You never know if you will be able to find what you want.
This is how the Consumer Price Index works. They steer inflation into specific things. Meat / Beef always gets hit.
Food prices always fluctuate with gas prices Food has to get to the stores
My grocery bill has doubled. Everyone is complaining! Even fast food has raised prices.
We don’t eat fast food and I was only paying attention to beef as a marker but will have to start tracking other items. I have no doubt many things have increased. Lots of variables between us as well though.
How much of the fast food cost increases are due to increased wages needed to be paid to keep people?
Yes. I was talking to a client today and his son got a job at In and Out paying $22/hr. Go figure what’s pushing prices high.
I will have to start paying attention to more items. I was using ground beef as a marker but I’m sure many things have increased as well and most likely to a greater degree.
I grew up in Pedro too! Born 1952 at the hospital on 7th. St.. Went to 7th. St. Elementary, Dana Jr. and SPHS. Lived on Rapallo Ave. and 17th. St. Left for NC in 1989. I LOVE Pedro, it was the BEST!!!! Oh yeah, my grandfather was the engineer on the old ferry boat, before they built the Vincent Thomas bridge.
I just remembered my uncle Hank was a longshoreman for 40 years, ask your father if he remembers Hank Olsen. It might have been a little before his time though, my uncle started in the 50's, BEFORE they even had containers. I remember him always talking about how shitty it was to unload bananas...BY HAND!
I used to hang out in Averill Park when I was a kid and when I was in high school we used to hang out in Sunken City, right off Pt. Fermin Park. Remember Walkers Cafe, I drank a LOT of beer there! I played JV baseball for the Pirates, Alan Ashby and Gary Maddox were on the Varsity team and went on to play major league ball. Alan was the catcher for Nolan Ryan of the Houston Astros and Gary played CF for the Phillies. We all rode the same bus to games. Ah the memories!!!
We lived in Pedro (on S. Leland St.) back in the early 90s. Pina's on 9th was the best Mexican restaurant EVER and I miss that place so much. I hope they are still kicking.
My cousins lived on 36th. and Leland, Ray and Dougie Olsen.
Thanks.
Thinking the bass turds with the MSM are attempting to talk us into a shortage frenzy over Chinese junk. I am more concerned about our farmers and farmland.
This may be a toilet paper situation.
They conflate the issue, and make people panic buy things.
Which would destroy the economy and make it look like there is a shortage, when there isn't.
REMEMBER THE TOILET PAPER "SHORTAGE"
It might have been a test run of their bigger plans.
Sure do, 2020 started out with a run on TP and ended up in the crapper... 🤢
The chance of the TP shortage being a test = very high.
My thought exactly. Same thing just happened with fuel in the uk
Sure do. By carefully timing trips to the store with expected shipment arrival times, I gradually accumulated a 2-year supply.
No mo shortage
I'm in rural Ohio, I see empty sections on the shelves but I believe, in my area, it is just people hoarding. Example - in the soda aisle, plenty of coke, no Barq's root beer in the appropriate section. No Grape Crush, but plenty of Orange. So, I think some prepper-pothead-moms are probably getting ahead of the curve and grabbing their favorite things in large quantity. Something else disappearing early - canned pumpkin (of course), and other baking necessities (choc chips, raw nuts, etc.) So, to avoid a disappointing baking season, if you see it, get it now.
Edit - the above was just a food report - in home improvement news, lots of the chinese-made tools and tool sets (hand tools and power tools) are not getting restocked these days.
on this episode of hoarders…
On this episode of people not wiping their ass with newspaper, although it would be fitting...
It would be cool to have an episode of hoarders where it was a prepper house with wall to wall beams bullets and TP
And when the crew shows up to clean it out the person smiles and says no, piss off, I'm not quite done!
I personally believe white hats are accelerating the collapse of the world economy to crush the cabal globalists. Their policies are doing a great job of destroying the economy but it needs to accelerate to take everything down at once and the whitehats are doing that with supply chain disruptions, real or imagined.
But...but that's the same plan as Klaus and the Cabal...
Hans, are we the baddies?
Good. Crush it, crash it, rebuild, Make America Great Again.
I've been wondering what the "normal" backlog of ships waiting to be unloaded looks like. And it makes sense that it would be cyclical / seasonal. It would be easy for the msm to say "look at this!" and most people would have no idea what normal is.
This is right on with the MSM play of using normal statistical aberrations to “prove” something else (CASES ARE ON THE RISE!!!!)
I've been saying the same thing since the images of ships being unloaded first started to be posted here.
Showing me that a bunch of ships are waiting to get unloaded means nothing if I have no baseline for comparison.
It may be an actual problem, or we may be getting set up for TP round 2.
Same with hospitalizations. Reporting a hospital is 97% full - uh yeah, that's the goal. You don't want an empty hospital if you are going to pay the bills. No one would ever say what a "normal" hospital capacity was pre-covid.
Also - hospitals have bed classifications that 'flex' with need. How you designate those beds affects reimbursement and staffing requirements. You can say your 6-bed ICU is 'full', however, if needed, you can flex an additional 20 beds to ICU beds by adjusting equipment and staffing levels. Lies, damn lies, and .. you know the thing.
Yes but someone posted just a couple days ago a side by side photo, purportedly of the Port of Long Beach with no ships out there from before the current crisis, and one from this week with dozens.
I saw that, and it was helpful in that it tried to make a comparison.
However, were the photos taken at approximately the same time of year (OP said ships waiting in harbour is not unusual at this time of year) and at approximately the same part of the harbour?
Knowing the answers to those questions or having alternate baseline info would help to sort out what part, if any, of this story is true and what, if any, is part of a disinfo campaign.
Spot on! I laughed when I read the Biden Administration asked the big logistics companies to work 24/7 as soon as possible. This is their peak season and they always work 24/7 during peak. Sad the Administration is trying to take credit for standard practice at UPS and FedEx.
If you have no masks and no vax I'm available next month as long as its a union pier.
Ships everywhere are being unloaded but the containers are not moving out of the port facilities and it's not for lack of truck drivers. There's a massive lack of chassis to haul the containers on. These things are the big issue right now because there are more containers than chassis.
http://www.chassisking.com/images/products/regular/40ft-triaxle-container-chassis-40-ft-triaxle-chassis.jpg
And warehouses have a shortage of workers as well because retail centers have a high demand for product.
My friend talks about how driver's will straight up beef over getting the good ones since they have to inspect them before hooking up. Nobody wants to wait around losing money and daylight for one to become available.
Mods should sticky this. Thanks For the intel
Meanwhile on the East Coast, the ports of Savannah, Jacksonville, Canaveral, Port Everglades and Miami seem to be doing business as usual with no media panic over ships backing up to unload.
I was just going to point this out, I noticed no media outlet has reported on Florida, I wonder what percentage of the nations goods come in through ports in the state? I'm just assuming it's a shorter trek to the north east from Europe, perhaps Florida isn't as busy due to a longer route?
Do the guys unloading ever have any idea what’s in the containers?
Yeah Moonchild15; haven't you seen 'The Wire' season2? :p (jk) but it's a good show. :)
I've loaded containers before and the driver puts a tamper proof seal through the doors after closing them only to be opened by the recipient.
It's opened by U.S. Customs...recipient does not get to break the seal.
Come to think of it, I'm not sure who opens it (don't really care). Would customs open something leaving the country?
Usually...only upon arrival....unless they have reasonable suspicions to investigate prior to departure. Transport truck seals container...delivers to port..arrives at new destination...customs breaks seal for inspection.
I see, thanks for the info.
Customs dosent open many.
Do you mean the crane operators? Or the drivers that have chassis the containers that containers are set on?
Qualified no. If a container has a refrigeration unit, it is pretty clear that it is climate controlled, most likely food.
The crane operator and supercargo would have that information possibly, but the weight rather than the contents are what is important.
Most containers are not opened on the dock or at a container freight station. That is only if you are shipping small amounts. Only in certain circumstances would the contents come in to play --inspection, customs, ATF.
From the offload side he’s aware. Does he know the trucking side of the equations about getting the containers out of the port property. Does he know anyone on that side to get a bigger picture of the bottle ne k. I’ve seen other reports to confirm his already. I also saw a report that the containers are being emptied but the cargo is in warehouses. So seeing that side would be of interest if he knows. Thanks
Omg the guys hauling cans in the exempted areas are straight up bottom of the pile and make dogshit.couldnt stand those guys.
I don't have much knowledge of the shipping industry, but
OP already stated that the port of LA was ALWAYS running 24/7, so this is nothing new. I don't know if you are referring to a different port, but LA, at least, seems to be operating normally.
The Lunar New Year happens every year and not until the end of January or into February. It does go on for a period of time, but I am skeptical that it would interrupt work for more than two weeks - and likely not more than one week. Blaming the Lunar New Year for any of the current or expected problems is unrealistic.
Lumpers work in a warehouse unloading cargo from the containers, as I recall. The warehouses didn't use to work 24/7, but as far as loading & unloading containers onto the docks that was a 24/7 operation when I was in shipping 25 years ago.
It's a lumper, not a pumper, lol. Someone that unloads the freight that's inside a container at a warehouse. Used to be done primarily by Teamsters but they came up with a "50 mile rule" or something like that saying it has to be done by ILWU.
I've heard the same thing from others, and they also believe the goods are being held in warehouses. They say the containers are leaving the port at a good clip as well, but containers aren't returning at the same rate. No way to verify this information, but a little thought experiment. Why would this be?
One idea. If you are Walmart, and you know there is about to be massive inflation, would you want to sell for currency today that is rapidly going to lose value, or would you instead hold tangible goods that you could sell for more next month? And since you lack warehouse storage for that much, you might just stack the full containers somewhere, rather than sending them back. Oh, and you'd probably also pre-order a lot from your Chinese suppliers, trying to buy as much as you can right now at the cheapest possible prices.
Seems to me if I knew the economic reset was about to happen, I might consider hoarding stuff and not stocking the retail stores right now as well. Most of these big chains get 90 days credit with their vendors. Fiat currency might not be worth much in 90 days, but containers full of goods will be.
The only difference between us and the big chain stores in this regard is that they are doing it on an industrial scale and preventing us from being able to do it ourselves. Toilet paper anyone? I bet Walmart has container loads of the stuff somewhere ready to hit the market when inflation has pushed the price high enough.
So if you have a chance, ask your dad if he has any insight as to possible delays on getting containers cleared and out of the port. Or any obvious shortage of trucks? Truck chassis? Are the containers clogging up the port, or are they being hauled away as quickly as they are unloaded? Are empty containers being returned at the same rate they are leaving?
Just received six containers from overseas in the last 2 weeks. No delays.
Cost is considerably higher in all aspects over the last year including customs clearance. Our forwarders are Golden! Everything arranged door to door.
Not in the industry but I'm not surprised about the rising costs. Higher fuel prices and higher taxes means higher costs. Only dumocrats can't figure that math out.
When containers aren't removed from the port in a weeks time DEMURAGE fees DAILY are incurred and they are STEEP. It is doubtful any shipper would let their goods sit in the port for any reason and allow the DEMURAGE to accrue to exceed the value of the container.
I'm waiting on a fake Fender Strat neck like 5 weeks now...kinda long skinny box...?
I have a Marshall Class 5 that I added a Variable Voltage Reduction circuit to and it works great. Nice crunch/distortion at bedroom levels. I also have load boxes but, I reserve those for taking just a bit of volume off for live gigs. They color the sound too much if you dial them back too far.
There are several types of load boxes, some as expensive as a decent amp. The ones I use are called an L-pad. Basically a rheostat and a large wattage resistor. Not everyone likes them but, they are economical and work well if you use them within reason.
Parts-o-casters are great. I just built my third one.
Thanks for the share Fren. Don't doubt what you're saying. Would like to share this guys link who has done very well covering this issue since the Evergiven deal.
https://youtu.be/WHkf0SZq2CQ
Thank you for the insight you've provided into the situation there. I knew nothing about the average workload in a day at the ports and this makes things much clearer.
Does he get paid per can?
Are they mandating the port workers to be vaxxed? Just wondering if there might be any resistance and/or future labor shortage?
That the ILWU is leftist isn't a surprise. Or at least it shouldn't be. Please look up (or ask your father) about the wobblies, July 5th (ever wonder why he always had the 5th off), and Harry Bridges (he has a chair endowed in his name at the Univerity of Washington).
The saying was "The west coast is communist; the east coast is mob".
It's just the ILWU has always been very, very left wing. Not always a bad thing, btw. Harry Bridges was the founder of the ILWU and first president. What is done and why can be found in his wiki for a short read.
Fuck I miss the skunk. Fuckin government and their clearance bullshit requirements... LOLOLOL
I would not be surprised if they’re moving items to warehouses where they spoil and/or get damaged, like the resources we sent to aid Puerto Rico.
PA did this with PPE meant for pandemic relief. It was in the news one day and never mentioned again.
Thanks for the info. This is good to know...
It's very important to research a "conspiracy" before echoing it to peers and social media. A lot of people will subconsciously take ONE debunked "conspiracy" from you and then discredit everything else you say after, yet give the Brandon regime and press passes because deep down they don't want to think any of this is true.
I myself have stayed away from the port issues, but do admit I haven't spent the time to really look into it like I do with other things I do share such as the Great Reset agenda and encouraging people I know to get their money out of mainstream banks immediately.
Hey thanks for putting this info out there - you're not a shill. You're providing a point of view that so few of us have. My question would be, are there any counterparts on the Atlantic Ocean/east coast that he is in touch with? Are they reporting the same or different? I haven't noticed a whole lot of empty shelves in the stores I go to except a CVS that seemed to be sold out of nail polish remover. That's all. I only know that because I walked in there specifically for nail polish remover.
Our Walmart in Atlanta is 25% empty. I have photos but don’t know how to download.
I don't think you can upload photos of your own to comments, only to posts.
I saw a report earlier today that noted a lack of truck tractors because of California regulations restricting the types and age of the trucks. Bullshit or not?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/14/the-california-version-of-the-green-new-deal-and-an-october-16-2020-epa-settlement-with-transportation-is-whats-creating-the-container-shipping-backlog-working-ca-ports-24-7-will-not-help-here/
Nope, not talking about the container chassis, I'm talking the motor unit.
Tractor. Cali says post 2011 if I recall.plus fucked the leaders who already were grossing jack squat.
Thank you! I've been really curious about this cause it seems so strange. Tell your dad thanks for what he does. It's much appreciated.
One question: does he know what happens to the cargo after it's unloaded at the dock?
The recipient of the container must remove the container from the port in 1 week from arrival and ONLY upon clearing customs and all tariffs paid. Otherwise...the recipient pays daily DEMURAGE fees that are absolutelt insane (repeat daily fine) until the container is removed. No recipient wants DEMURAGE!!!
https://twitter.com/speedmonkey70/status/1448642554111528966
Maybe the DUMBS have enough food and meds, now need to make sure all the rooms/apartments for the elites are accessorized and decorated. "Dollar" type stores are low on kitchen and bathroom supplies (utensils and cleaning items). Have been reading/videos on a lot of shortages on bedding, linens, kitchen towels, etc. and now BIG shortages of favorite and in demand Christmas toys and electronics. And what about the furniture shortages? HHHUUUMMMMM.....Sounds to me like someone is setting up "homes"
I’m from the UK and they keep talking about fuel shortages, empty shelves, and a lack of truck drivers in the MSM. Other than the panic buying of fuel that caused long queues and a temporary fuel shortage for around a week, I haven’t experienced anything else personally, that includes any empty shelves in the supermarkets.
I have heard about someone who put a deposit down on a car and it could take up to 2 years to arrive with no guarantee. And some car parts are hard to get for repair, but I had the same issue last year when my car needed a new part, and took about 2 weeks to arrive.
The thing is, logically, I think this is planned propaganda to wake people up. Because I cannot imagine Q, who wants to minimise causalities in this war, is going to allow millions of people to starve because of essentials shortages.
What I can imagine the plan to be is exactly this. YOU’RE WATCHING A MOVIE. Think about all the CEO’s at companies that stepped down and were replaced under Trump/White Hats. Who’s to say all these well known companies and brands, Sony, Microsoft, car manufacturers, “the global chip shortage”, “oil shortage” “food shortage” “energy shortage” etc… that’s all white hat propaganda from the companies and governments themselves, because the goal is to push people to the precipice to wake people up and spread the great awakening. No jab no job, massive fines, high energy prices, cancelled flights, it’s working quite effectively wouldn’t you say so? Stirring the pot and fire in people.
Most of these things don’t hurt people to a large degree right now (unlike full blown fascism and communism), people are scared of losing their jobs and income, and all these no jab no job deadlines, but it’s just fear, temporary, it has a purpose, directing the blame to the current corrupt governments. The whole system is going to collapse anyway and will need replacing, so make sure the disdain is at the right people, so people won’t care once they’re replaced.
It’s like the financial collapse and collapse of fiat currency. We know it’s going to happen. But do you really think white hats and Trump are going to let everyone’s savings and hard work and pensions which are in fiat currency (£,$ etc…) are going to have absolutely nothing, and only the 0.01% or wise people who invested in bullion will have wealth in the future? No of course not. Sure hyperinflation might happen, sure currencies might collapse, but it will be restructured, and wealth stolen over centuries by the deep state, will be redistributed back to the countries and citizens.
These was even a comment about farmers getting paid to burn their crops or be fined by the government, and one farmer anon here said it’s business as usual for him and his farmer friends and haven’t heard of this except online.
It’s all about pushing people to the precipice using fear and directing the blame on current governments.
My 2 cents.
...I've been in east texas too long, I literally read "LA" as "Louisiana," and got excited...
There is a video circulating, I believe of the Port of L.A., showing trucks backed up waiting for loads, and none of the six (?) cranes operating. Do the cranes periodically go "down" for maintenance (altogether?), or are there meetings that dock workers have to attend?
Just trying to jive together what you wrote vs. what's seen on the video.
I had forgotten where I saw this video, until I remembered it is in Scotty's most recent, right at the beginning: https://rumble.com/vnov3h-jefferson-starship-find-your-way-back.html
You're right. You won't see the crane move when loading cargo because it doesn't. At the start of a job they will position in line with the hold they are loading/unloading. The crane will drop the gear, which hook onto the top of the container and then lift the container off the chassis and it will move towards the ship and set the container into the hold. Then the reverse for off loading. The crane itself does not move, and this video is not clear.
There has to be some video on this... Here is a link to a bunch of nice information on gantry cranes. https://www.marineinsight.com/ports/container-gantry-crane-construction-and-operation/
Good analysis. Thanks!
I'm curious where that video was shot from. My truck driver friend said there are people standing around just scouting for people trying to film stuff because it's a big ass NoNo in the port.
As I recall, cranes don't load containers onto chassis for outbound drivers, only for the driver to get them to the place where they stack the containers and then a very large forklift moves them onto the stack. The same forklift will place the containers onto the chassis for the driver picking it up for delivery.
You're only going to see the cranes moving when a ship is in port, loading or unloading the ship.
Lunch
Can you ask your dad if truckers or trains are picking up containers at the same rate that they have been before the "shortage" or are the "cans" sitting in the dock area unable to leave for final delivery
I am a supply chain guy. I have been in the industry for 30 years. That port is highly automated, meaning, they have robot chassis that will take a container. Minimal people and labor involved compared to 10 years ago. None of this makes any sense to me. There are also other circumstances, i.e. the State of CA has mandates on the carriers/draymen that their trucks have to meet certain emission standards or they cannot pull from the port. Trucking hours of service are also artificially placed on how much work someone can do, or how long someone can be on duty. During the 2020 shutdown, the hours of service were waived. I am still waiting on the safety reports to see if drivers were more unsafe during this time. On the other side of the pond, there is a shortage of drivers in China. We have hundreds of containers that are ready to ship, but there are no empty containers, nor space available on ships. Last year, a container 40ft cost us $2500 to get here (Port to Door) that same container is now $25,000. The only reason we don't make this product line in the US, is we can buy it delivered for cheaper than we can source the raw materials in the US. Every thing else we manufacture here 24/7, 360 (we shut down production for Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Years, and 4th of July) The resident is a joke saying work 24/7 and the problem will be resolved. Wal Mart was their to back him up. Wal Mart DC's have ALWAYS been 24/7. They cannot get labor right now to unload trucks or load trucks out. We supply grocery goods and we have customers who are out of stock on the shelf, but cannot take delivery of our goods because they don't have the labor in the warehouse to take delivery. There are so many more intricacies weaved into this than just saying open up 24/7. Rant over. OP tell your pops thank you for keeping the economy going. Without hard working folks like him, everything grinds to a halt as we are seeing.