Same here rooftop - my whole family is jabbed except my husband and me and my father - including 2 nieces and a nephew who are between 5 and 17.
In addition I am fighting my blackpilled husband on regular childhood vaccines for our 8month old. Showed him all the literature and sites I've read in here and he still wants tdap polio and mmr though I've talked him out of all the others. He agreed to delay until we are done breast-feeding. Right now, I'm hoping a flood of information and arrests happen before she's a year old that will finally convince him where I can't. He is highly logical and skeptical except for this one thing. None of the proofs have been definitive enough for him in weighing the cost vs death from the disease. I wish a guardian angel who isn't me could finish the job I've started.
My husband and his mother were like this too. She threatened to take my kids and vaccinate them. I threatened my husband with divorce if he wouldn't support my decision. Divorce is a better alternative than a vaccine damaged child. Luckily it never came to that. He saw I wasn't bluffing and backed down. Fast forward a few years and both my husband and his mother are SO GLAD I never vaccinated my boy. All her grandchildren are autistic except for the ones that came from me.
My son and his wife refuse to vax their 3 and 5 yo. They are perfectly health sweet little kids. I am so glad they made this decision. If I could go back, I would never vax my children. We were raised on vaxxes. We just did it and mostly had to, to attend public school. I think I've convinced a younger mother to not jab her 3yo further and her baby in the womb. Here's praying that she makes the right decision.
My 11 month old has had no vaccines and has never had so much as a cold the whole time. Not a cough, not a sniffle, not even a fever when he cut 4 bottom teeth and then 4 top teeth all at the same time. It was far and away I made the right decision and he is healthy and happy and strong because of it.
We all three had covid or flu in Jan. It was bad. On zelenko vitamins still sick 10 days. Her only 4 though but it was rough. Otherwise she hasn't been sick
Lots of good info there. He’s a vaccine expert and developer. Aaron Siri ( the main lawyer behind ICAN - Informed Consent Action Network) asks him some amazing questions and really digs into how safe these things really are and the holes in their studies etc...
Check out Vaxxed and Vaxxed 2
Here’s a study from June 2021 about Vaccines and SIDS
He has seen the study and agreed to wait because of it till she was past sids age and my breastmilk was no longer there to protect.. I don't want to fight but I will.. however a smoking gun on measles polio and whooping deaths from vax vs unvaxxed would help shut it down.
I’ve had similar trouble convincing my wife to avoid all vaccines for our kids not just the covid ones. Here are some points/links/books that helped convince her:
https://youtu.be/3vIcrFOT8pc (taped deposition of Stanley Plotkin MD, a leading authority on vaccinology, on vaccine ingredients containing animal viruses, aborted fetal tissues, etc.)
https://academic.oup.com/jpids/article/8/4/334/5359449 (The 112-Year Odyssey of Pertussis and Pertussis Vaccines - Mistakes Made and Implications for the Future, DTaP vaccine causes increased lifetime susceptibility to Pertussis)
https://youtu.be/o7A_cMpKm6w (Bill Gates' Plan to Vaccinate the world, damage caused by polio and HPV vaccines in India and meningitis vaccines in Africa)
Show him Candace Owen's stuff, she's doing a whole series "shot in the dark" about childhood vaccinations and their origins. As well as any Robert Kennedy conversations.
You have done a great job! God Bless You! The MMR Vaccine is what causes autism. Get the book " The Plague of Corruption" by Dr Judy Mikovitz. ( Over 30 yrs as a virologist) It was her Doctoral Thesis that was used to come up with today''s treatment for aids. She is a brilliant! On page 36 she says " The film" VAXXED: From Coverup to Catastrope " was based on the devastating revelations of Dr William Thompson, senior scientist at the Centers for Disease Control, who revealed that from the years 2001 to 2004 the federal government covered up links between the MMR (measles-mumps-reubella) vaccine and autism, particularly among African American males." This book is excellent and really explains a lot of the corruption in the vaccine world.
The pediatricians get a large bonus at the end of the year. Something like $20,000 if 60% of their clientelle is fully vaxxed, $43,000 if over 80% are fully vaxxed. My son's pediatrician was angry when they turned down the chicken pox vax. Why would he care? His bonus must have been affected!
people who are supposedly religious and have faith in their God and their universe... all suddenly lose their minds and go line up for the death-shot
They never had faith to begin with.
Let me tell you something. I did more of God's work not being associated with the church. The church goers live in a bubble of status and many wouldn't stop if they saw someone dying in the streets.
Psalms 23:4
“Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.”
Yeah, me too. It was my confirmation motto when I was 14 years old. I forgot about it for a long, long time. I did some very stupid things in my life, I should have been dead, but still... I'm here. Psalm 23, recited as a 14 year old child, prevented me from being dead and instead I'm here. Living in these times, awakened.
I have friends where one is a Pastor and he and his family got all three shots. I don't get it. Who could have ever imagined what a sick world we live in.
I have met Christians who are puzzled at my comment "God gave me an immune system that has protected me all my life; who am I to "improve" God's plan???" One answer to me? "Well, the vaxxes were all free"... 😒
Not free, we pay for them. People just stare blindly when I tell them that. Our government pays something like $250 each. But then they still insist they were free.
I know. I have a client who is strong Catholic , and they got all 3 shots, and their young 7 yr old daughter vaccinate. I was horrified. Where is their faith?
It is just me, my MIL, my brother, his BIL and two of BIL's kids. I suspect one of my co-workers did not get the jab, but I don't know her well enough to ask as I just started a couple of months ago. That's it.
I just said that to my husband a week ago. Kids of today will remember the sins of their parents and the government officials “put in place” for their “protection”.
They’ll remember the hypocrisy, the push to fear something that can’t actually do what those fear peddlers say. They’ll remember being kept from family and friends.
I’m ready for them. They’ll get the truth and nothing but the truth from me.
I’m not a family man. I would have abandoned all of them for their idiocy and before the medical problems start.
Not sure how you can trust your wife with pocket change at this point.
When they all get medical problems, and they will gradually, they are going to blame you for letting it happen.
i hear you friend and I appreciate the truth of your comment but stupid or not, deceitful or coerced, they are still my kids and I will stand by them for as long as the lord grants me the strength to do so. As to the wife, well I'm fairly sure there are more reliable candidates out there.
Whoa!!!! I work with many of these victims here in my commie state. They drank the fear koolaid. They believe the lies. Many are so hopped up and anxious that anything their pediatricians offer them as a safety shield, be it advising masks, tests, jabs, etc. aren’t available soon enough to help them sleep at night. They are full of fear, confusion, guilt and anger. The psychopathic cabal is masterminding a game of psychological twister. The media spins and the obedient contort.
I get the OP is directed at what I suspect are quite possibly paid influencers, shills and bots plastering their fake personal lives on social media. And there are also the ridiculously haughty attempting to escape their own bs thru seeking out a pathetic echo chamber. It’s sad.
I think we can easily get caught up in blaming the victims for being victims. All I see are trauma induced fear responses. Honestly though, ask yourself how much did people around you comply with after 9/11? Freaking X-rayed at the airport, shoes off, and throwing out bottles of water because TSA bullies said so. They purposely trained people to comply. Until DJT, I had no idea we would organize, plan and fight!
This is a long train of globally coordinated manipulations and assaults. Their slow moving demoralization program was insidious, pervasive and repetitive. They had the best tech, tapped trillions of dollars while employing geniuses...and brandons. 🤣They worked to weaken us in multiple ways.
Right now, there’s no greater satisfaction to be had than waking up anyone We can. WWG1WGA, riiight???!!!
Frankly I’m alittle scared to think of the work ahead when those that demanded their loved ones get vaxxed begin to suffer and rage. I’m angry I can’t save them all!
Here we are. We resisted and found this forum to learn from, to support eachother. I eat humble pie seeing all you autists and fags blow my mind. I live for the insight, the prayers, the humor. I constantly pray for patience and God’s Grace. I’m here to learn how to fight for humanity cause what else can I do with what I see! I’m here because you frens give me strength, hope and direction. Okay well, I needed to get this out. Thanks for the prompting...
I think Dexter with the People’s Court makes the point that the doctors advising and providing the injection are culpable in a court of law.
Parents, I think are a cross section of humanity. I see this WEF agenda as a war against humanity, therefore their minions are guilty of deception and devilry using those humanity were taught to trust, albeit blind trust is dangerous.
Parents, well even Killary is a parent... There is no immunity shield for the evil.
My point is I see the victimization of the parents who fail in doing the research to protect their own children. In CT, there’s so many followers, I see them daily. I know many of them as loving parents who believe they are protecting their kids from the deadly virus. I wanted to draw attention to them at least.
I get your point Tendie and I appreciate you very much!
But just a comment: I do seriously sense some pain. I'm not suggesting your parents did anything twisted, rather, that you're sensitive to the pain of others. Something. That's not necessarily a bad thing> smacking down those ants, good.
Meh. But whatever, maybe I'm not picking up on anything. It's probably not material anyway. Either way, may God make your pathways clear, and put mettle in your legs for the journey, and a keen sense of eyesight to see the road ahead.
The OP is posting - sorry to say this, rooftop - the subject title expresses an attitude with so little heart and so little compassion. In my unabashed view, the attitude expressed in that line knows nothing (well, almost nothing) about the heart of God.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Or let me put it another way: Let he who has never failed, throw failure in the face of others.
Are there people out there who are sinful in their pride? Sure.
I'm really disappointed. These types of posts get me down the most. I hate the disinfo, or lack of research, and sometimes the bickering, but the arrogant judgmental attitudes that some anons display are what saddens me in a way that the evil performed by others doesn't.
If anons who understand what is going on cannot have the heart to see the tragedy, to weep for the victims of the Cabal, then who can?
I hate it. I really, really hate it. So many normies are victims. Good people, trapped in a vicious plan to destroy them.
Instead of realizing "there, but for the grace of God, go I" and weeping in gratitude for having been guided to be awake, to understand and NOT fall victim to the Great Evil, some people just turn around and judge, in anger, or self-righteous myopia, seeing all the faults in others, instead of reflecting in humility and thereby learning to experience compassion.
To those who are given much, much will be required. To those who are given little, little will be required.
Because our pedes are family, one hopes, one prays that one's family will rise to a higher standard. Personally, I think God is deeply saddened and disappointed by some of the attitudes of those who think they know enough, are good enough, and righteous enough, to castiage and cast judgment.
I'll leave it there. Likely, my words will fall on deaf ears. But I wonder. How many tears have you shed, oh anon, for the suffering of our people, for the millions of innocent victims of the Cabal?
There is no greater pain a person can experience than to be the cause of the suffering of their child. That is, any person with a heart. While rooftop shouts in coldhearted judgment on parents who have fallen victim in this one, one can only suspect that she simply does not understand how much of a life of grief awaits those who find out that they were tricked into doing something they thought was good for their child, only to find out they are the instrument of their suffering.
I pray rooftop never experiences that grief. Or maybe in fact, she should. Maybe then she'll find some compassion through her own suffering.
I love seeing rooftops stuff and I admit I have a strong affection for our tendie, but nothing has felt as painful in my heart as much as this post, in a long time.
Thanks for replying, Rooftop. Maybe its foolish to attempt to share a sincere and heart-felt communication on an online forum.
"that just depends on if you're a narcissist or not." I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
Perhaps you are correct. Maybe I misread your intent, and the heart and attitude you were attempting to express. Maybe I misinterpreted it. I'm open to that possibility.
I don't know if there is any value in attempting to discuss the issues. Maybe we just see things too differently at this point. Which I would think is OK. At least, I tried sincerely express my mind to the person I was commenting to, and to be honest and open about it.
You know, after I posted my comment, I reflected on it a lot. And, to be perfectly honest, I experienced a sense of regret and a pang of judgment, too. Here I was talking about you being too harsh and hard of heart, but what about me? I tried to justify my criticism of you by appealing to my own feelings about the tragedies around us. As if my feelings about the situation trump yours or anyone else's. Physician, heal thyself.
I'm certainly not annoyed by your post - at least, I don't think so. But I will say that I feel the broken heart and agony of those who have acted in ignorance with their sincerity. It doesn't feel like you do (maybe you do, how would I know?). Anyway, that thought makes me sad.
"What would you have to say about republicans who didn't trust the shot...."
Is it my place to say anything about them? To condemn them? Is it somehow OUR job to judge and condemn them? To be honest, I don't really care about those that have actually sacrificed their children out of ego or selfishness or pride, or convenience. Why should I provide any portion of my heart to care about or be concerned about them. Can I change them? I fully agree with you (I think) that they will certainly face the consequences. I see suffering for them, although I certainly do not relish it.
What I DO care about is the parents who have agonized for months and years now, watching their children suffer in lockdowns (you know that I live in the MOST lockdown city on the planet, don't you? One cannot begin to describe the agony my whole society and people have been put through, prior even to the injections coming out.) Who may have taken the injections because they felt they had no choice and that it might help resolve the situation. Who, in their ignorance, have suffered. And those that, in ignorance, deceived by evil, have actually injected their children.
That's who I care about. The children, the parents. I do not care very much about those who acted from arrogance, selfishness or ego. As I already said, their suffering will be great. It will be what it is. But honestly, I do not give any space in my heart or mind dwelling on them, or their future.
Anyway, that's me. But let me share one or two thoughts here, honestly.
"Well the day of judgement IS at hand for these parents who you are making excuses for in sweeping generalizations like you know them and know their souls, which you don't."
I have to say, you've done me a great disservice. "making excuses for"? "Sweeping generalizations".
You say I'm making excuses for people. Your view. Let's disagree. I'm trying to understand, from God's viewpoint, who my people are.
Secondly, maybe I've misread you, but it seems like you are making sweeping generalizations. UNless I was inarticulate, I wrote, and intended to experss the view, that while SOME have surely acted from ego and selfishness, I know of many who have not, and I also believe that there are also many who have not. So I'm not going to condemn all as if they are one and only one. Don't you think that you made a massive sweeping generalization when you condemned ALL parents in your post, regardless? Did I misread you?
Finally, I mean, let's be real. How do you know what I do or don't know people and their souls, or their hearts? You don't know, do you? Or do you?
But even so, I mean, do YOU know about all the parents you have made sweeping statements about, and the content of their souls? I mean, asking for a fren. Because that is exactly what your post seems to say. Perhaps I'm just misreading it. After all, <fact> text is VERY limited in how much meaning it conveys.
Before I conclude, let me say this: I feel no animosity or annoyance towards you, or towards the preacher shouting out "repent". Indeed, we need that. Heck, we should be saying that at the top of our voices. But is that what you intended to communicate, in your post? Maybe I was just having a bad day. I didn't really quite get that. (Were you attempting to inspire people to repent by telling them that they are screwed and their children will hate them?)
Also I think I've expressed my appreciation for your posts, your presence in the board community, and more. So, after this, I'll be moving on and I'll be holding no prejudices towards you or about you. I hope it will be likewise for you, but either way....
But let me conclude with this. When I was a young boy, I had visitations from Jesus, and from other saints. I felt the grieving heart of Christ, as he wept over humanity, who, in their sin and ignorance, are suffering under the devil's thralldom. I wept many tears as I experienced, was overwhelmed, by the grief and sorrow in Jesus' heart. I forgot those experiences until I re-encountered Jesus at the ripe old age of 18. (many years ago now).
And then, when I began to actually read through scripture and pray, as an adult, through conscious choice, I noticed how many parts of scripture described and conveyed Jesus sorrow and grief at the suffering of human beings.
When I was a child, I was taught about Jesus as if he is some sort of impervious wonderful king, a judge, some glorious, transcendent, unattached being, who only felt love, joy and happiness. As an adult, through really encountering Jesus, I recognized that, like a young child who doesn't really understand what his or her parents may be going through, I had been ignorant of Jesus all along.
In my experience, if one reads the gospels, paying attention to all the times that Jesus weeps, sheds tears, and what he expresses about how he feels (indirectly through his words), then one cannot but help encounter a different kind of Jesus to the one taught by well-meaning pastors and believers who have never considered how much a man of sorrow was our Lord. Yes, he is the Lord of Glory and Light, but he also bears the sins of the world, and more importantly, the suffering of the world, in his single perfect heart.
Anyway, that's my thought.
You are certainly correct about one thing. None of them, or us, can escape the consequences of our choices.
Thanks again for replying, sharing your views. I look forward to seeing more of your posts on the board. FI
I love your fighting spirit. I've learned alot about you in your sharing. Honestly, that's really awesome, and thanks for investing the time. My initial feelings about our rooftop tendie have been confirmed. You're a fricken' good egg.
Pardon my french.
I think I do find it hard to relate to the some of the harsh feelings or what seems like hard-heartedness sometimes expressed on the board. Not because I do not despise evil or hate the results. But I'm also very wary of the devil sneaking in and creating division in people's hearts.
But I want to emphasize: I'm not championing the parents. I'm championing the children. Because when I look at people, all I see is small children and big children, grown children and immature children. From God's viewpoint (I believe) every single one of his children has been violated.
I know that there are messed out people out there. Hell is very real to me. I know what hell is like, and that's why I tend to avoid focusing on such people. But I also know a lot about what heaven is like, I'd like to think. Maybe, not sure. If heaven is feeling your father's presence every single day, then yeah.
And yes, I consider myself, extremely, very, over-the-top lucky. The blessings I've received are inexpressible, my worthiness? Well, don't wanna be arrogant and think I can know, but I know that no one is really worthy, except you know who.
So, later I'll offer a prayer for your protection, and for God to give you a double helping of fighting spirit. And, I'll also pray that IF necessary, he guides you on how to best apply it. If necessary... I'm not presuming that you aren't applying it in the best way or as God desires. I'm just saying, if you have a really powerful AK47, then use it in the best way to get the best, right effect. Hope that makes sense. Not insinuating that you aren't a good shot. Just saying that both you and I can improve our talents, to His greater glory and to our world's greater good. That's worth praying for, right?
Just one thing: "you've opened your heart so far that to me it's like overdriving your headlights. You're taking on unnecessary amts of pain when no one asked you to."
Hehe Story of my life. No, seriously, won't go into it, but it's kind of a family trait. There are times when God has indicated the exact same thing. Dude, you're opening up your heart so much it's hurting me! Lower the volume, bro. And don't carry it all so much.
Hehehe. Still very much a work in progress. And I get by with a little help from my friends.
OK. Well, its been a treat. Battering away at the keyboard, instead of working like I should be doing. But whatevs.
Hey, I'm glad your on our side. More strength and power to you.
"This is the kind of thing I love when I meet people .....that doesn't fold like wet paper when I BARK at it."
I think I'm like that in a way. But my bark is like, being too sincere, to unable to be superficial. I dump sincereness on people, and if they don't fold up and close up, then I feel like, OK. I can work with this. (I can connect).
Having had two parents who were very good at not opening up, I somehow evolved to be too open for most humans. Whatch'a gonna do? Heart, meet sleeve. (Again, over-exaggeration, but kind of, anyway...)
"Standup comedy" One of the most amazing art forms in existence. When its good, its the bomb.
"What about you, i feel guilty now you pray for me so what do I pray for you. I have to reciprocate, and you're super awesome person. What shall I pray for you to join in agreement with you on. You name it. Protection? Joy? Winning lotto numbers? <3"
Hmmmmm.... Lemme think about it. Lotto numbers a definite option.
You know I complained about stuff I don't like or which makes me disappointed, some of the stuff that comes across this board.
Well, I got to tell you, I just read through all three replies (like I was ripping into a box of cornflakes after a 10 day fast) and I'm really blown over. Your replies are what I LOVE MOST about this board. Really awesome _ I'm kind a lit up now _ Yeah, I can be very emotionally charged at times.
Anyway, there's a lot in the replies, but most of all (what I personally like most) is that you really come across as who you are, and your sharing something with me about who you are, how you think and why you think like you do. It's so awesome, because here's the thing. We read lines of text - a headline here, a comment there - and we often (i'm generalizing here) come away with conclusions and impressions that are really, really off. By which I mean, at least I certainly do this - I come away with an idea about a person - I'm very energetically inclined and get a sense of the energies through the words and expressions - I'm also a linguist - but it's really only when effort is made that sometimes you a can transcend those initial impressions, and get a fuller sense.
There are a bunch of things you've written that I'd like to respond to. I mean, I don;t know; I also sense who much you don't really know about me (how could you), but at a minimum, I'm really chuffed at the time and effort you've made to reply.
So, without going into to much meta-analysis, I'll try to respond naturally to a few things.
Yeah, I DO have a powerful sense of empathy and sympathy, and have had since young. However, I have also lived with a really crazy level of anger in my heart a lot of my life. It's really only in the last few years that God has begun to show me and teach me about this. I would keep so much locked down (and, perhaps, suppressed by the sorrow and other things) that when my anger came out, whew. Total blaze. Never violent (thankfully), at least, never expressed in physical violence again anyone, but certain emotional 'violence', basically like a massive raging storm.
Maybe a little hulk-like. And, it always felt deeply justified, because I was coming from a place of righteousness (I believed) and always with an intent to see the right thing happened. I would get so frustrated when I felt people were ignoring their responsibility to be good, to do right, to sacrifice themselves instead of sacrificing others for their own comfort. Really, like a hurricane, emotionally.
Only in the last two years has God revealed to me how much trauma and difficulty this created for my family, who I love profoundly and powerfully.
So I've been learning where this comes from, and what I have been in denial of, such that I could not even recognize how I felt.
I'm intense in my observations of humans, and can pick up a LOT of stuff, and am normally a very calming, supportive kind of person. But when I lose it, man, I rage as if I'd gone supernova. Which is NOT very often.
I mention all this to say, boy oh boy, if I get really triggered, when I think of evil, or what people have been doing to my people (the people of my state are MY people) then, I go lit. So, anyway, yeah, no, I'm certainly not a sad sack or one of those "oh, can't we all just get along?" type of people. But anyway. More next...
"I spose it's not entirely fair to put someone through a little hoop of fire before I deign them worthy of a detailed response."
hehehe. Nah, it's fair as. Sounds like a solid strategy.
I think I'm like you. I like engaging, but I love engaging when people come back and make the effort to work through the muck to get to the gold. That's where all the gold is, imo. not on the surface. It's under the dirt, the much and stuff. Some people simply want to pick the flowers and the nice stuff growing in the soil, and don't want to ge their hands dirty, but in my experience, the real gold is where you dig. If it's on the surface, there's a reasonable likelihood that some of its just fool's gold.
Linguist: Fluent in 3 languages, semi-fluent in others. Occupation: translation. So, translating Q, for example, and translating God, for example, is where the real action is, for me. Creating bridges across differences in thought, ideas, expressions, aka 'language'.
" If I get sad, I fall down a bottomless well and can't get back out."
Hahah. I knew it! That's why you got attack skills. You're a sensie. I'm glad. Protect yourself, as if God thought you are precious (he does!).
Interesting to hear about your mum. You know, around may last year, God triggered off some dynamite in my .... self ... that had been laying around for decades. Really, really good stuff, major shifts. Still working through that. But a really big part of the process has been a book that I was put on to. "It Didn't Start with You: How Inherited Family Trauma Shapes Who We Are and How to End the Cycle". Helped me to find out that a lot of the stuff I'd been carrying since the year 0 was inherited and connected to the grandparents I never knew (my mother's parents). Recommended to any person, really. Big leaps in this field, also in the last 5-10 years. We're finally figuring out that we are more than just "me" - that we're part of a much bigger framework, and we're all interconnected.
Given your description of your childhood personality and nature and how you you tackled with that, I can say I feel a sort of pride. Like, yeah, I imagine God and think he's probably feels a lot of pride in you. Not letting anyone push you around. It's awesome.
I do appreciate your comments about not being fake with regards to how one builds their relationship with Jesus. I do think I've received a lot of natural protection over the course of my life. For whatever reason, God did not put me in harms way from the nutjobs, the psychopaths, and the demonically possessed. I mean, I pick up on that sort of presence very, very quickly, and I do not interact with it, or such people. And, I've never felt drawn to.
"so I can't grieve or cry or open my heart when it just isn't in me to do it." Yeah, that's cool. I mean, we're all different. Although, I have such a rather strong prejudice with regards to Jesus, due to my experiences and living relationship with him, that I tend to forget that. And, I suppose its really true, that's an impression of Jesus that was shaped by my early experiences and nature.
Actually, my dad was very narcissistic in a lot of ways, but also very sensitive and compassionate. Interesting man, he grew up in in country where the Nazis rolled in when he was 8 years of age, and lived under their regime for about 5 years. Near starvation, massive trauma in his childhood, but he was never able to even recognize it. A large part of his heart was locked away from me, and from himself. Really a beautiful man, but a man who was buried under unrecognized inner pain. So, lol, he could be intensely and extremely intolerant of others, and yet he thought he was the most tolerant person!
As an adult, I underwent a 12 year journey in my relationship with him to find out who he was, what the nature of our relationship really was, and ended up really loving the guy.
My mum, likewise, tragic childhood. Abused by a relative as a young child with her twin sister, he mum passed away when my mum was 11, and her dad when she was 16. All locked up, unable to express many locked down emotions.
Terrier, huh. That's cool. Because we need some of that. yeah, we certainly do.
I personally think that some children will not be able to forgive their parents, but I also think that many will be able to, too. They'll recognize it. That's all I'm saying. I guess I tend to focus on certain people and certain behaviors, and I guess you do too. Just kinda different in focus. Which, really, is a very good thing. Cos God teaches us and helps us to grow through others, if we are open to Him.
I still find it a bit hard to relate to your disgust, because perhaps, yeah, I really do NOT focus on or give my attention to the shitbags who do really shitty stuff. To be honest, over a lifetime, I've learned that I cannot afford to. Because It WOULD grieve me too much, and I'd be useless. There are mountains of things out that happening that I will not allow myself to think about, because frankly, its too real. I don't need to see it to know its happening. So I give my energy and attention where I feel God directs me too. But thank God also for pedes like yourself. As long as we put Him first, then there's no real problem. He'll use you and he'll use me in the best ways possible, as long as we offer it all to him.
"But basically if I say "God forgive you because I don't think I can", well... that's the truth. I can TRY to forgive, and I can pray for that to come over me. And anyway it's not my place to forgive them anyway. But these vax-parents need forgiveness from Jesus, because they won't get it from society, and may not even get it from their own kids."
I don't quite see it that way, but I can relate to what you say, and I respect it. If you can't, you can't. Not because you're not a good person, but because you ARE a good person. Personally, I think God forces himself to forgive sometimes because he needs to, not because he wants to. I feel like I've learned so much about where you are coming from, and it inspires me to honor God more. I mean, I glorify God because I get such a much better sense of where you're at and where you're coming from. And, it's good.
"I knew I liked you. Haha!" hahaha. Yeah, likewise. (I believe I pointeds that out while ranting in my first comment!)
"I get like Paul Atraides in the Gom Jabbar." Hmmm. Yeah, that rings all sorts of bells. Letting emotions just roll over me is kind of my speciality. That is, not denying them, not negating them, but letting them come in, throw me around, but holding my center all the while. Have become really good at it - in some areas. Which is why discovering my anger consciously was a real biggy. I was experiencing it all the time, but completely unable to see it!
"I KNOW I stuff it down" Hmmm. (if any of what follows is unwelcome, please just shove it out the door!) Yeah, that's your mum coming through. If my energetic senses are correct (and they usually are - I don't really need time and space for this stuff, it just comes) this was your mum's stuff. She cannot get angry because there was very likely someone with real anger issues who did a lot of damage or who was very damaged, or someone who really experenced overwhelming tragic sorrow. Might be a parent of her's or a relative, or someone further back. It all comes down the line.
Anyway, unlocking this stuff can really help you move forward. Just make sure to do it with prayer and offering, and hold onto the Rock! But I mentioned that book in the last comment for this reason. Maybe the reason we interfracted here was to share that little nugget.
If you're interested, I recommend getting the book and taking a peek. It's transformative for me (and I'm still in that process). The things we inherit from our lineage .....
"But if I get sad about something really REAL, I might not ever get back up (an exaggeration, but it sums up the root feeling)."
Hah! Look who's good at articulating themselves!!! Look, well said. But If I'm reading all the points properly, all this indicates to me that you're carrying someone else's load. And a) that's not a bad thing, because it helps to make you who you are and b) when you resolve this or liberate this, those who carried or still carry the load can experience liberation through (you).
The point is, not to deny the load (that would only stifle) but to understand where it originally comes from, and WHO, and then to release back into the wild.
OK. I'm probably totally over-stepping the bounds of privacy and social decorum, so just put all of this aside if it feels inappropriate. But healing is really a big part of what I've been called to do (by God), so I'm kind of compulsive about that sort of thing. (Another trait I need to get balance on.)
Either way, uber-joyful to read your replies. Yay!
Maybe. I'm not perfect. But perhaps you'll notice that the key point of my comment is to express how I feel about the post. Is that judgment?
Can you outline here where you think I've cast judgment on rooftop?
Aside from the point that I think Rooftop's reprimand/rebuke/reproving of parents who have 'injected their kids' is far too over-generalizing, factually, with regards to some parents, I think she is factually correct.
However, my reproach, if you want call it that, is a lament that rooftop's heart seems really quite hard. To me, anyway. On this point, too.
I also expressed my sincere admiration and even affection for Rooftop. How would you suggest I show compassion? I'm ALL ears. If I can learn though you, I want to.
I expressed disappointment. Is that judgment? I expressed heartache. Is that judgment? I expressed a view about how I think God sees a type of behavior. Is that judgment?
Perhaps judgment was the wrong word. She's not really judging them, except maybe in her heart. She's warning them, and reproaching them.
It's one thing to honestly share your heart; it's another thing to judge. To judgment involves condemnation.
Do I condemn Rooftop? (Question: Does she condemn the parents in this point?)
I'm fully open to reflection. But at some point, when you say you cannot offer your feelings or view on someone's actions because its judging, you establish a cycle that neutralizes any ability to feel, share and offer feedback.
Do I judge Rooftop for the post she made and how she framed her attitude? I'm certainly not condemning her. And, if I do judge, then yes, perhaps I'm at fault. How do you suggest that I express my feelings without "judging"?
I think you articulate some of the issues well; describing how the ego can attach to this or that emotion or thought, and use it as a pivot point.
"the devil wants god's children to turn on one another, its the oldest game he has ever played" This is something that the wisest of the wise remember. Divide and conquer is not merely a political ploy. It's the method of evil.
(For example, scripture explains that the serpent (the archangel Lucifer) first asked Eve "Did God say NNNN? It's not true. YYYY is true" those words had the primary single purpose of dividing Eve from her Father, by fermenting distrust and disbelief in Him. Divide, then conquer. The purpose of her faith in God and his command was to bind her to him during that period when she was vulnerable.)
I don't know that it couldn't have happened any other way. I'm not a fatalist in my faith or outlook. My faith conviction is that God's will manifests into reality based on the following formula:
God's portion of work (we'll call it God's "responsibility", which he takes on freely and with conscious choice) + the human portion of work (our responsibility, assigned to us by God, for our own benefit, for our growth, and so that we are co-creators with him) = fulfillment of God's will.
This is why history repeats, and the same patterns re-occur in history, and in scripture; because God sets up one person, or family, or people, or nation, to fulfill a certain role in His plan, and if that person, or family, or people, or nation, fails, God has to find someone else He can then set up to fulfill it. This happens again and again until the work has been done. When one person (or family, or people, or nation) fails his or her responsibility, another must eventually step up and resolve it. E.g. Adam's failure >>> resolved by Jesus. Abraham's failure (in the first offering) >>>> resolved by Isaac and Jacob. etc. NB: Parable of the vineyard: (Israel failed to recognize the Messiah, Jesus, so God established Christians as a world-level 'people' to do the job.)
Anyway, point is, I don't know if it HAD to be this way, but as you say, what has happened has happened, and attaching to that too much can lead the ego astray. I also believe that what we do today and tomorrow, can change the course of events. God is the great architect of our lives and the life of humanity, but we all have a role to play, too, to the best of our ability.
Your emphasis on love, compassion, and praying for healing are ... well, just great. When we practice such a heart, I believe GOd's heart is much comforted.
Hey Rooftop, I think you're the one I talked to about my narcissist in-laws a couple months back. I'm the one that finally cut them off permanently. My husband has finally been standing up to them. His mom tried to use the old guilt (pity)/shame (cold/angry chastisement) tactics (her go-to weapons), on him regarding me and he wasn't having it. It turns out his Christian mother bold-faced lied about what she had done and then tried to say he didn't hear her right. He's finally awake. Better late than never. Edit: I'm a Christian... I'm just astounded she'd do that. I
Thanks- you're so sweet. A lot of people have no idea what dealing with narcissism is like. I'm glad I finally know what the clinical classification is for their family system. They are right on schedule with your prediction of weird stunts! I'm doing fantastically though. Having a continent between us has always been a huge help. I've been pointing out their bullshit for decades (to my husband) but always acted respectfully to them. I'm glad to finally have said what I needed to say. Now that I laid it all on the table, he's requiring that they address their behavior toward him and they don't like it one bit... I'm admiring him for finally dealing with them as they need to be dealt with. Having lived through observing their sickness... I appreciate your calling out the same sicknesses when you sense it on this board. It's refreshing. People that rail against it... they just don't know.
Jesus is the only one who can heal their families at this point.
his parents were Christian Scientists and never took him in to the doctor, they just prayed over him instead. And now he has a deformed skull and no eyes.
So Jesus helps you and others, just not this kid?
I'm pointing out this dissonance because you said "Jesus is the only one". The Jesus character isn't the only archetypal representation of truth and healing.
> Christians are not the same as Christian Scientists.
You said ONLY JESUS can heal their family relationships.
The Christian Scientists have more faith in Jesus than you because they believed God will also protect and heal the body.
Unlike you apparently since you want to distance yourself from them.
> You're using me to assure yourself that your atheism is good and correct.
I'm not an atheist.
> You took it off on a whole other tangent that doesn't pertain to the point
It was perfectly pertanant.
> you're feigning obtuseness
No. I'm calling you out for being a hypocrite.
> your basic questions ("Why don't Christians just pray and take no further action, if Jesus is all they need? And conversely, if you Christians believe you have to go to the doctor, then why don't you go to the doctor for everything? Which is it, Christians?")
No, I said "So Jesus helps you and others, just not this kid?".
You mock the Christian Scientists but you're the same kind of fundamentalist. Doctors are obviously untrustworthy. Seems like these people are more intuitive to that than you are. You should understand that as a mod here of all places. Shouldn't trusting God for healing take precedent over trusting corrupted men?
Not trusting doctors isn't the same as refusing to eat food any more because God will nourish you. LMAO
Obviously got under your skin since you reeeeed in such a long response.
I think he is saying that you need to be able to medically discern when your child may have a problem that western medicine can actually fix. Its not often, but it is sometimes the way. Western medicine is not 100% lost, so recognizing what treatments are simultaneously necessary and low risk is important.
You have to understand, this was a massive brainwashing, hypnosis, cattle herding, etc….. while to us it seems completely illogical, we have to understand and empathize with those who succumbed. The day is coming when they learn the truth, and we should keep reminding them (with evidence) of how they were tricked. I hate liberal ideology as much as anyone here, but I’ve learned over the years to be empathetic to them because liberalism is a mental disease and it has a cure. And I just want to end it with this
Why do you care about their relationship with their kids? All I’m hearing is you touting “I told you so” which is absolutely warranted, but not in line with Q or your Jesus’ teachings. These people, while they appear evil to you maybe, only succumbed to evil through ignorance.
The day is coming that none of this will matter. Vaccines, mandates, even Q will be a faint blip on what we know and experience.
Not all succumbed through ignorance. I talked till I was blue in the face and they decided we couldn't talk "politics" at all anymore. I was shutdown but they can't claim ignorance. I told my entire family. I went from being considered one of the more intelligent into the far right trump loving conspiracy kook who was too retarded to understand "the science" and the numbers of deaths in the stats. I just can't.
What has happened, happened. What is important is how people react to it. Hopefully the parents will seek out detox treatments that may help. And hopefully they realize that they should avoid further vaxes.
Agreed. I know many folks who took the vaxxx to keep their jobs. Many people in their 40s,50s,60s who have been let down by their government their entire lives. That I know of, not many kids have been vaxxxed, but I do feel for these people who “just wanted to live life”.
At least, in my experience these are the people who LISTEN as problems with the vaxxx are aired on TV, as they know they are part of a “failed experiment” (really, a successful war crime)
You have no idea how many times I’ve thought of this! I’m surrounded by nice sheeple, who love their children and will be devastated when they realize what they’ve done! They tried to convince me to vaxx my family and judged me behind my back. Now they’re having so many “weird” issues. Wait till they realize why.
Good, smart, and hardworking people unknowingly fell for it because “everyone else is doing it”…
I can’t blame them, but I am deeply saddened for whatever the future brings to them. The compliant vaxxx-Karens on the other hand, hate the fact that nobody is enforcing anything anymore, and I just laugh and tell them it’s not my fault I wasn’t outsmarted by a trillion-dollar drug/war cartel
We have decided to not vax our kids, even before knowing all the bad shit. However, so many people around us are getting their kids vaxxed. I feel bad for my kids when their friends start having issues and possibly die as a result. The survivors of this situation will have a lot of mental anguish to deal with as they start losing more and more people around them. So sad.
Myself, my wife and my oldest/14 year old daughter. I tried to warn them to wait as my wife and I had received the vaxx right after they came out. I had JJ. She had Pfizer. I was awake and trying to research/confirm the vaxx info very early on, but learned the truth a few days too late. They both thought I was just throwing out silly conservative conspiracy stuff. So I couldn’t convince them not to. My wife got Pfizer boosted when my 14 year old got vaxx’d. Luckily they’ve both refused further boosters due to all the mixed media info, and both no longer trust what anyone says about the vaccines. But all to little too late. Just too damn late.
Yep we all load up on C, D, zinc, water, regular vitamins. We be on it. If we can’t totally rid ourselves of it, we can at least buy more time with all the vitamins and such. We are all going to heaven anyway, at least those of us that believe in Christ and of God, and aren’t evil. So either way I’m not too worried. WWG1WGA.
mRNA is a messenger and not meant to sick around, even though they hardened it with uncommon bases, Your body will find it.
Similarly, your body will scrub the spike protein and you taking supplement to recycle proteins will help seed that up. (Maybe bromelain from pineapples will help here, it helps with protein turnover)
It's just a race against time to avoid lifelong damage done by the toxic protein, but I reckon most people can manage it if they don't ignore the problem.
The cabal wanted to get us on a program of jabs every few months. They weren't expecting to bump us off with a single one.
Think of it like being a very heavy smoker who has given up. maybe in a few years you will not have the same risks, but it you had kept on smoking, it would have caught up with you for sure.
Young kids aren’t fully indoctrinated yet. A 4th grader is more likely smarter then a recent college graduate. A 4th grader hasn’t had their brain turned into mush yet.
Without school/parental pressure if you asked a random 4th grader to take the jab they would say no.
The recent socialist college grad who has transitioned from a human to an orc would try to kill you to get the jab.
What ultimately is so devastating is not only will so many children will be physically injured but effing Big Pharma will continue to make profits on the medical care of these children. They win no matter what. Hell has a special place for them.
I was shocked at how many people I know are aware of the mark of the beast in the Bible and they didn’t think twice...or even went and re-read it again just to make sure. Nope. They believed Govt is smart and has all the answers.
I don't know quite how to put it into words in the way that I would like, but there is an eery parallel to Exodus in this whole saga, specifically in relation to the 10th plague of Egypt.
You do realize that vast majority of parents did it to protect their children, not injure them. Most didn’t do it for prideful reasons. The parents did what is normally done during a pandemic. Most just wanted to protect their children.
My husband's parents gave him ADD medication when he was a kid. Pschyotrophic (sp?) freakin drugs without questioning what the chemicals would do to him... because he was a boy that didn't want to sit still for 9 hours a day. I still can't fathom how you would, as a parent, think that was okay.... but these vaxxes.... what level of stupid does one have to be to sign up for GENE-ALTERING drugs being used for the first time?
35 That it might be fulfilled, which was spoken by the Prophet, saying, (I)I will open my mouth in parables, and will utter the things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
36 Then sent Jesus the multitude away, and went into the house. And his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of that field.
37 [g]Then answered he, and said to them, He that soweth the good seed, is the son of man,
38 And the field is the world, and the good seed are the children of the kingdom, and the tares are the children of that wicked one.
39 And the enemy that soweth them, is the devil, (J)and the harvest is the end of the world, and the reapers be the Angels.
40 As then the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his Angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity,
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire. There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 (K)Then shall the just men shine as the sun in the kingdom of their father. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Parents had their children jabbed to protect them from this deadly bioweapon from China. They were trusting and couldn't conceive that most governments around the world were in on a plot to exterminate most of us.
Be very thankful that you were not caught in that trap ..but do you drink fluoridated water? eat ready meals? Take any medicines? Well you are in a different trap !
and a lot of parents had their kids jabbed so they could brag about it on FB. Munchausens is everywhere in this world and children are pawns in the game.
this is also why Q tells us to 'read the Bible'
and why Vigano writes about Children of Light vs. Children of Darkness...
Yes well vigano wears a frock and only started speaking out after he retired..how many children were raped by bishops and he waited until he retired??? How many died in the satanic rituals he has always been aware of?
And yes parents bragged..look how good a parent I am ..I got my kids vaxxed...just like everyone got their kids jabbed for a sexual disease within hours of birth even though protection lasted right years..and yes I filled their little bodies with aluminium fluoride dog cat pig and human cells and even aborted baby cells human urine formaldehyde and other nasties just like we all did because we believed we were protecting them and being a good parent.because the church and state told us that was good
Yes Q tells you to read the Bible...do some research...who wrote it? That's a good start. There is large sections from the Vedas the Hindu religion for a start....how many books were removed to fit the agenda of Constantine and his cronies in Rome?
Q always saying don't let them divide you and the first thing you hear on this board is only people who accept Jesus as their saviour get to heaven...never seen that in the Bible...division right there..
I’m interested in how you see things, what your have to say and your gifts overall. I may not agree or struggle with your position and that’s okay in my book.
I appreciate your passion.
I really appreciate your Meme Classes.
Your efforts facilitated my ability to mobilize a local community to successfully defeat the Pizza and Consent being taught in the schools.
I also think parents need to get their kids out of the government indoctrination ‘schools.’ I’m frustrated at how slow that is resolving.
You’re doing a great job bringing about this debate with your strong feelings and beliefs. I’ve been digging deep cause the whole death by a thousand cuts, pale horse, protocols of Zion, reset, bbb, WEC, agenda 201, 2030, eugenics, the UN, cabal masterminding, death cult, devil worshipping angers the duck out of me!
Newsflash lady, by the time kids could get it you'd have to have had your head in the sand not to know the damage it was causing. Would you put a bullet in a gun, spin the chamber, then give it to your kid? Btw, my anser to your last 3 questions are no, no, and no.
You forgot option 3, the kids are just permanently sick with "autoimmune" disease, and hooked on multiple Big Pharma meds for life, unable to do anything to fight back, or even exercise
This brings me to vaccination in general. Parents do this to their kids every day across the world knowing they could die or be maimed for life, but “it’s what they’re supposed to do”. Not vaccinating my kids. HELL NO.
I am praying everyday this does not end up as bad as it sounds. I am seeing stuff that I just don't know what to think. A coworker caught covid a year ago. Recovered then vaxed twice then got the booster 2 months ago. Now has Covid again. I could see you getting Covid once. But twice and with all the jabs.
As a parent, I can say I live with guilt. In the 90’s, we had our daughter vaxxed. After one of them, she ran high fever. My husband and I both feel that the ADD she developed was from the fever and that vaccine. Wish info had been available at that time. She was adopted and is biracial. Our 2 sons were older and had never had a problem so we did not expect that she would.
I pray it is reversible. My niece and nephews were jabbed.
Same here rooftop - my whole family is jabbed except my husband and me and my father - including 2 nieces and a nephew who are between 5 and 17.
In addition I am fighting my blackpilled husband on regular childhood vaccines for our 8month old. Showed him all the literature and sites I've read in here and he still wants tdap polio and mmr though I've talked him out of all the others. He agreed to delay until we are done breast-feeding. Right now, I'm hoping a flood of information and arrests happen before she's a year old that will finally convince him where I can't. He is highly logical and skeptical except for this one thing. None of the proofs have been definitive enough for him in weighing the cost vs death from the disease. I wish a guardian angel who isn't me could finish the job I've started.
My husband and his mother were like this too. She threatened to take my kids and vaccinate them. I threatened my husband with divorce if he wouldn't support my decision. Divorce is a better alternative than a vaccine damaged child. Luckily it never came to that. He saw I wasn't bluffing and backed down. Fast forward a few years and both my husband and his mother are SO GLAD I never vaccinated my boy. All her grandchildren are autistic except for the ones that came from me.
My son and his wife refuse to vax their 3 and 5 yo. They are perfectly health sweet little kids. I am so glad they made this decision. If I could go back, I would never vax my children. We were raised on vaxxes. We just did it and mostly had to, to attend public school. I think I've convinced a younger mother to not jab her 3yo further and her baby in the womb. Here's praying that she makes the right decision.
All her grandkids? How many? That's fucking insane that that many have been fucked up just from one family.
My brothers ex wife has four boys. All autistic including the one she had with my brother. All with the early childhood vaccines.
I can't imagine how rough that must be.
Chilling, redpill statistic Pearl.
So happy you held the line for your child who couldn't yet on his own behalf!
My 11 month old has had no vaccines and has never had so much as a cold the whole time. Not a cough, not a sniffle, not even a fever when he cut 4 bottom teeth and then 4 top teeth all at the same time. It was far and away I made the right decision and he is healthy and happy and strong because of it.
We all three had covid or flu in Jan. It was bad. On zelenko vitamins still sick 10 days. Her only 4 though but it was rough. Otherwise she hasn't been sick
Search for the 9 hour Plotkin deposition video.
Lots of good info there. He’s a vaccine expert and developer. Aaron Siri ( the main lawyer behind ICAN - Informed Consent Action Network) asks him some amazing questions and really digs into how safe these things really are and the holes in their studies etc...
Check out Vaxxed and Vaxxed 2
Here’s a study from June 2021 about Vaccines and SIDS
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8255173/
He has seen the study and agreed to wait because of it till she was past sids age and my breastmilk was no longer there to protect.. I don't want to fight but I will.. however a smoking gun on measles polio and whooping deaths from vax vs unvaxxed would help shut it down.
I’ve had similar trouble convincing my wife to avoid all vaccines for our kids not just the covid ones. Here are some points/links/books that helped convince her:
https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/history.html (CDC admits improvements in sanitation were the main driver of the massive decline in infectious diseases in early 1900’s, before vaccines were widely used)
https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/12/ten-year-study-unvaccinated-children-far-healthier-than-their-vaccinated-peers (Ten year study shows that unvaccinated children are far healthier than vaccinated children)
https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/17/22/8674 (Ten year study shows that unvaccinated children are far healthier than vaccinated children)
https://youtu.be/3vIcrFOT8pc (taped deposition of Stanley Plotkin MD, a leading authority on vaccinology, on vaccine ingredients containing animal viruses, aborted fetal tissues, etc.)
https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/01/dr-andrew-zimmermans-full-affidavit-on-alleged-link-between-vaccines-and-autism-that-u-s-govt-covered-up/ (Dr. Zimmerman affidavit on link between vaccines and autism)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2536523/ (Dr. Andrew Zimmerman - Developmental Regression and Mitochondrial Dysfunction in a Child With Autism Caused By vaccines)
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/425061-how-a-pro-vaccine-doctor-reopened-debate-about-link-to-autism (Dr. Zimmerman - How a pro-vaccine doctor reopened debate about link to autism)
https://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ICAN-VS-CDC-LAWSUIT-PR.pdf? (CDC couldn’t provide proof that certain vaccines don’t cause autism)
https://www.immunizationcoalitions.org/content/uploads/2017/01/Timeline-for-CDC-Whistleblower.pdf (Timeline - William Thompson CDC whistleblower - link between MMR vaccine and autism)
https://legislature.vermont.gov/Documents/2016/WorkGroups/House%20Health%20Care/Bills/H.98/Witness%20Testimony/H.98~Jennifer%20Stella~William%20Thompson%20Statement~5-6-2015.pdf (William Thompson testimony on 8/27/14 re: CDC cover up of link between MMR vaccine and autism)
https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/06/read-cdc-senior-scientist-we-trashed-data-showing-vaccine-autism-link-in-african-american-boys (CDC whistleblower William Thompson’s testimony re: autism link to vaccines)
https://translationalneurodegeneration.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2047-9158-3-16 (Brian Hooker - Measles-mumps-rubella vaccination timing and autism among young african american boys: a reanalysis of CDC data)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25057632 (Polio vaccines from 1955-1963 were contaminated with cancer causing monkey SV-40 viruses)
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cancer-causing-simian-monkey-virus-polio-vaccines (How a cancer causing SV-40 monkey virus ended up in polio vaccines)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121585/pdf/ijerph-15-01755.pdf (See page 3 of 7: Over 490,000 people in India developed paralysis as a result of the oral polio vaccine between 2000 and 2017)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28188123 (DTP vaccine (whole cell) increased infant 3+ month all cause mortality)
https://academic.oup.com/jpids/article/8/4/334/5359449 (The 112-Year Odyssey of Pertussis and Pertussis Vaccines - Mistakes Made and Implications for the Future, DTaP vaccine causes increased lifetime susceptibility to Pertussis)
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf (CDC vaccine excipient summary)
https://www.nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0062.pdf (Aluminum Phosphate is a known hazardous substance but it’s in many vaccines including TDaP)
https://ijme.in/articles/deaths-in-a-trial-of-the-hpv-vaccine/?galley=html (Gates funded HPV vaccine trial in India that recruited poor malnourished girls, many died)
https://youtu.be/o7A_cMpKm6w (Bill Gates' Plan to Vaccinate the world, damage caused by polio and HPV vaccines in India and meningitis vaccines in Africa)
Vaccine injury cover up: https://learntherisk.org/ (Merck whistleblower Brandy Vaughan vaccine truth organization) https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27023738 (Vaccine-associated inflammatory diseases of the central nervous system: from signals to causation) https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10210810 (Magnetic resonance imaging findings in 22 cases of myelitis: comparison between patients with and without multiple sclerosis) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24514081/ (The spectrum of post-vaccination inflammatory CNS demyelinating syndromes) https://ccandh.com/vaccine-injuries/transverse-myelitis-tm/ (Vaccine Injuries > Transverse Myelitis) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19880568/ (Transverse myelitis and vaccines: a multi-analysis) https://www.cdc.gov/acute-flaccid-myelitis/cases-in-us.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Facute-flaccid-myelitis%2Fafm-investigation.html
Wow thanks. I'm making him view these with me!
You’re welcome! We all need to share as much info as possible. Note that some things we do to keep our kids safe from infectious disease are:
Awesome! Thank you!
Show him Candace Owen's stuff, she's doing a whole series "shot in the dark" about childhood vaccinations and their origins. As well as any Robert Kennedy conversations.
You have done a great job! God Bless You! The MMR Vaccine is what causes autism. Get the book " The Plague of Corruption" by Dr Judy Mikovitz. ( Over 30 yrs as a virologist) It was her Doctoral Thesis that was used to come up with today''s treatment for aids. She is a brilliant! On page 36 she says " The film" VAXXED: From Coverup to Catastrope " was based on the devastating revelations of Dr William Thompson, senior scientist at the Centers for Disease Control, who revealed that from the years 2001 to 2004 the federal government covered up links between the MMR (measles-mumps-reubella) vaccine and autism, particularly among African American males." This book is excellent and really explains a lot of the corruption in the vaccine world.
A. The MMR causes seizures and death as well.
B. Studies revealed it is contraindicated in families with a history of epilepsy.
C. Pediatricians currently not issued a warning on B. Forget A. The “docs” just destroy the records!
The pediatricians get a large bonus at the end of the year. Something like $20,000 if 60% of their clientelle is fully vaxxed, $43,000 if over 80% are fully vaxxed. My son's pediatrician was angry when they turned down the chicken pox vax. Why would he care? His bonus must have been affected!
They never had faith to begin with.
Let me tell you something. I did more of God's work not being associated with the church. The church goers live in a bubble of status and many wouldn't stop if they saw someone dying in the streets.
Psalms 23:4 “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.”
I take this verse very seriously.
I’m not a Christian and I believe I’m more Christ-like than the masses of nominal Christian church goers. Bunch of order followers.
Yeah I don't need to sit in a building weekly and be preached at to live by a set of principles.
"I take this verse very seriously."
Yeah, me too. It was my confirmation motto when I was 14 years old. I forgot about it for a long, long time. I did some very stupid things in my life, I should have been dead, but still... I'm here. Psalm 23, recited as a 14 year old child, prevented me from being dead and instead I'm here. Living in these times, awakened.
The Lord is my shepherd. He always was.
Solid verse! Gives me courage to press on in this spiritual battle.
I have friends where one is a Pastor and he and his family got all three shots. I don't get it. Who could have ever imagined what a sick world we live in.
I have met Christians who are puzzled at my comment "God gave me an immune system that has protected me all my life; who am I to "improve" God's plan???" One answer to me? "Well, the vaxxes were all free"... 😒
Yeah cause if it’s free you are the product.
Free cheese on a mouse trap comes to mind. 🪤 🐁
That’s a good one, I’m gonna keep it.
Geez, really people? Free poison, count me in, not.🙄
Are methadone clinics free?
Not free, we pay for them. People just stare blindly when I tell them that. Our government pays something like $250 each. But then they still insist they were free.
I know. I have a client who is strong Catholic , and they got all 3 shots, and their young 7 yr old daughter vaccinate. I was horrified. Where is their faith?
It is just me, my MIL, my brother, his BIL and two of BIL's kids. I suspect one of my co-workers did not get the jab, but I don't know her well enough to ask as I just started a couple of months ago. That's it.
I hear you!
So is my entire family. And no matter what i did or evidence i provided they wouldn't even look at it.
I know Fren. All we can do is try. Some people just want to remain asleep. Hang in there. WWG1WGA
I believe the Lord will heal all physically, mentally, and financially. The virus is the work of the devil not GOD.
I just said that to my husband a week ago. Kids of today will remember the sins of their parents and the government officials “put in place” for their “protection”. They’ll remember the hypocrisy, the push to fear something that can’t actually do what those fear peddlers say. They’ll remember being kept from family and friends.
I’m ready for them. They’ll get the truth and nothing but the truth from me.
I hope the children will appreciate freedom more than they ever would have if they never went through this.
Thank you for an accurate description of my wife's actions, covert actions in fact. Found out too late.
Thank you my friend. Currently investigating NAC and other available assistance. Again, thank you for your prayers.
There's a detox guide here: https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/
I've never had occasion to use it, but I hope the information is useful. Click on the About Us tab for more details about the authors.
Best wishes to you and your family.
Awesome. Thank you my friend.
Thank you for posting this!
She did it to your kids?!
Yeah. Not a word, just slipped out with the kids and off to the vax store. Twice. Saddest thing is the kids 16 and 14 never said a word.
Is it worth trying a detox profile, NAC etc? There are lists of available medicines and supplements which might help your kids.
I'm sorry this has happened.
edit: I have just seen your comment that you are already doing this!
Still appreciate the suggestion. Thank you my friend. 👍👍
I’m not a family man. I would have abandoned all of them for their idiocy and before the medical problems start. Not sure how you can trust your wife with pocket change at this point.
When they all get medical problems, and they will gradually, they are going to blame you for letting it happen.
i hear you friend and I appreciate the truth of your comment but stupid or not, deceitful or coerced, they are still my kids and I will stand by them for as long as the lord grants me the strength to do so. As to the wife, well I'm fairly sure there are more reliable candidates out there.
The kids I could give a pass. I was total fucking retard until my mid 20s, who am I to judge, kids are kids. But the wife? Unforgivable.
Does she have life insurance?
You're making the right choice for a whole host of reasons, which aren't related to the topic at hand.
God bless, fren 🙏
Whoa!!!! I work with many of these victims here in my commie state. They drank the fear koolaid. They believe the lies. Many are so hopped up and anxious that anything their pediatricians offer them as a safety shield, be it advising masks, tests, jabs, etc. aren’t available soon enough to help them sleep at night. They are full of fear, confusion, guilt and anger. The psychopathic cabal is masterminding a game of psychological twister. The media spins and the obedient contort.
I get the OP is directed at what I suspect are quite possibly paid influencers, shills and bots plastering their fake personal lives on social media. And there are also the ridiculously haughty attempting to escape their own bs thru seeking out a pathetic echo chamber. It’s sad.
I think we can easily get caught up in blaming the victims for being victims. All I see are trauma induced fear responses. Honestly though, ask yourself how much did people around you comply with after 9/11? Freaking X-rayed at the airport, shoes off, and throwing out bottles of water because TSA bullies said so. They purposely trained people to comply. Until DJT, I had no idea we would organize, plan and fight!
This is a long train of globally coordinated manipulations and assaults. Their slow moving demoralization program was insidious, pervasive and repetitive. They had the best tech, tapped trillions of dollars while employing geniuses...and brandons. 🤣They worked to weaken us in multiple ways.
Right now, there’s no greater satisfaction to be had than waking up anyone We can. WWG1WGA, riiight???!!!
Frankly I’m alittle scared to think of the work ahead when those that demanded their loved ones get vaxxed begin to suffer and rage. I’m angry I can’t save them all!
Here we are. We resisted and found this forum to learn from, to support eachother. I eat humble pie seeing all you autists and fags blow my mind. I live for the insight, the prayers, the humor. I constantly pray for patience and God’s Grace. I’m here to learn how to fight for humanity cause what else can I do with what I see! I’m here because you frens give me strength, hope and direction. Okay well, I needed to get this out. Thanks for the prompting...
This is a very important point to make.
I think Dexter with the People’s Court makes the point that the doctors advising and providing the injection are culpable in a court of law.
Parents, I think are a cross section of humanity. I see this WEF agenda as a war against humanity, therefore their minions are guilty of deception and devilry using those humanity were taught to trust, albeit blind trust is dangerous.
Parents, well even Killary is a parent... There is no immunity shield for the evil.
My point is I see the victimization of the parents who fail in doing the research to protect their own children. In CT, there’s so many followers, I see them daily. I know many of them as loving parents who believe they are protecting their kids from the deadly virus. I wanted to draw attention to them at least.
I get your point Tendie and I appreciate you very much!
Your words ring a lot of personal experience and pain. There is a lot of anger in there too.
I can sense an unbearable pain. I pray you get some healing with that.
Be well.
Thanks rooftop. Jeepers.
not even close.
Hey, that's awesome. Happy to be wrong. The comment was not meant as a slight, as a dig, or to be demaining. Just being sincere.
sorry that triggered you and hurt your feelings
No need to be snarky. (sounds like you.re being snarky) You did not trigger me or hurt my feelings. Why on earth would you say that??????
(Maybe it's foolish to attempt to share a sincere and heart-felt communication on an online forum. Oh well)
Anyway, happy to be the beneficiary of your prayers.
Thanks again. Let's move on, shall we?
Heheh. Hey, I know what I'm talking about.
But seriously, thanks for the replies.
But just a comment: I do seriously sense some pain. I'm not suggesting your parents did anything twisted, rather, that you're sensitive to the pain of others. Something. That's not necessarily a bad thing> smacking down those ants, good.
Meh. But whatever, maybe I'm not picking up on anything. It's probably not material anyway. Either way, may God make your pathways clear, and put mettle in your legs for the journey, and a keen sense of eyesight to see the road ahead.
And thank YOU for tapping these thoughts to text fren!
Damn, that's a good one! 😎
Your comment speaks to my heart.
The OP is posting - sorry to say this, rooftop - the subject title expresses an attitude with so little heart and so little compassion. In my unabashed view, the attitude expressed in that line knows nothing (well, almost nothing) about the heart of God.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Or let me put it another way: Let he who has never failed, throw failure in the face of others.
Are there people out there who are sinful in their pride? Sure.
I'm really disappointed. These types of posts get me down the most. I hate the disinfo, or lack of research, and sometimes the bickering, but the arrogant judgmental attitudes that some anons display are what saddens me in a way that the evil performed by others doesn't.
If anons who understand what is going on cannot have the heart to see the tragedy, to weep for the victims of the Cabal, then who can?
I hate it. I really, really hate it. So many normies are victims. Good people, trapped in a vicious plan to destroy them.
Instead of realizing "there, but for the grace of God, go I" and weeping in gratitude for having been guided to be awake, to understand and NOT fall victim to the Great Evil, some people just turn around and judge, in anger, or self-righteous myopia, seeing all the faults in others, instead of reflecting in humility and thereby learning to experience compassion.
To those who are given much, much will be required. To those who are given little, little will be required.
Because our pedes are family, one hopes, one prays that one's family will rise to a higher standard. Personally, I think God is deeply saddened and disappointed by some of the attitudes of those who think they know enough, are good enough, and righteous enough, to castiage and cast judgment.
I'll leave it there. Likely, my words will fall on deaf ears. But I wonder. How many tears have you shed, oh anon, for the suffering of our people, for the millions of innocent victims of the Cabal?
There is no greater pain a person can experience than to be the cause of the suffering of their child. That is, any person with a heart. While rooftop shouts in coldhearted judgment on parents who have fallen victim in this one, one can only suspect that she simply does not understand how much of a life of grief awaits those who find out that they were tricked into doing something they thought was good for their child, only to find out they are the instrument of their suffering.
I pray rooftop never experiences that grief. Or maybe in fact, she should. Maybe then she'll find some compassion through her own suffering.
I love seeing rooftops stuff and I admit I have a strong affection for our tendie, but nothing has felt as painful in my heart as much as this post, in a long time.
u/rooftoptendie
Thanks for replying, Rooftop. Maybe its foolish to attempt to share a sincere and heart-felt communication on an online forum.
"that just depends on if you're a narcissist or not." I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
Perhaps you are correct. Maybe I misread your intent, and the heart and attitude you were attempting to express. Maybe I misinterpreted it. I'm open to that possibility.
I don't know if there is any value in attempting to discuss the issues. Maybe we just see things too differently at this point. Which I would think is OK. At least, I tried sincerely express my mind to the person I was commenting to, and to be honest and open about it.
You know, after I posted my comment, I reflected on it a lot. And, to be perfectly honest, I experienced a sense of regret and a pang of judgment, too. Here I was talking about you being too harsh and hard of heart, but what about me? I tried to justify my criticism of you by appealing to my own feelings about the tragedies around us. As if my feelings about the situation trump yours or anyone else's. Physician, heal thyself.
I'm certainly not annoyed by your post - at least, I don't think so. But I will say that I feel the broken heart and agony of those who have acted in ignorance with their sincerity. It doesn't feel like you do (maybe you do, how would I know?). Anyway, that thought makes me sad.
"What would you have to say about republicans who didn't trust the shot...."
Is it my place to say anything about them? To condemn them? Is it somehow OUR job to judge and condemn them? To be honest, I don't really care about those that have actually sacrificed their children out of ego or selfishness or pride, or convenience. Why should I provide any portion of my heart to care about or be concerned about them. Can I change them? I fully agree with you (I think) that they will certainly face the consequences. I see suffering for them, although I certainly do not relish it.
What I DO care about is the parents who have agonized for months and years now, watching their children suffer in lockdowns (you know that I live in the MOST lockdown city on the planet, don't you? One cannot begin to describe the agony my whole society and people have been put through, prior even to the injections coming out.) Who may have taken the injections because they felt they had no choice and that it might help resolve the situation. Who, in their ignorance, have suffered. And those that, in ignorance, deceived by evil, have actually injected their children.
That's who I care about. The children, the parents. I do not care very much about those who acted from arrogance, selfishness or ego. As I already said, their suffering will be great. It will be what it is. But honestly, I do not give any space in my heart or mind dwelling on them, or their future.
Anyway, that's me. But let me share one or two thoughts here, honestly.
"Well the day of judgement IS at hand for these parents who you are making excuses for in sweeping generalizations like you know them and know their souls, which you don't."
I have to say, you've done me a great disservice. "making excuses for"? "Sweeping generalizations".
You say I'm making excuses for people. Your view. Let's disagree. I'm trying to understand, from God's viewpoint, who my people are.
Secondly, maybe I've misread you, but it seems like you are making sweeping generalizations. UNless I was inarticulate, I wrote, and intended to experss the view, that while SOME have surely acted from ego and selfishness, I know of many who have not, and I also believe that there are also many who have not. So I'm not going to condemn all as if they are one and only one. Don't you think that you made a massive sweeping generalization when you condemned ALL parents in your post, regardless? Did I misread you?
Finally, I mean, let's be real. How do you know what I do or don't know people and their souls, or their hearts? You don't know, do you? Or do you?
But even so, I mean, do YOU know about all the parents you have made sweeping statements about, and the content of their souls? I mean, asking for a fren. Because that is exactly what your post seems to say. Perhaps I'm just misreading it. After all, <fact> text is VERY limited in how much meaning it conveys.
Before I conclude, let me say this: I feel no animosity or annoyance towards you, or towards the preacher shouting out "repent". Indeed, we need that. Heck, we should be saying that at the top of our voices. But is that what you intended to communicate, in your post? Maybe I was just having a bad day. I didn't really quite get that. (Were you attempting to inspire people to repent by telling them that they are screwed and their children will hate them?)
Also I think I've expressed my appreciation for your posts, your presence in the board community, and more. So, after this, I'll be moving on and I'll be holding no prejudices towards you or about you. I hope it will be likewise for you, but either way....
But let me conclude with this. When I was a young boy, I had visitations from Jesus, and from other saints. I felt the grieving heart of Christ, as he wept over humanity, who, in their sin and ignorance, are suffering under the devil's thralldom. I wept many tears as I experienced, was overwhelmed, by the grief and sorrow in Jesus' heart. I forgot those experiences until I re-encountered Jesus at the ripe old age of 18. (many years ago now).
And then, when I began to actually read through scripture and pray, as an adult, through conscious choice, I noticed how many parts of scripture described and conveyed Jesus sorrow and grief at the suffering of human beings.
When I was a child, I was taught about Jesus as if he is some sort of impervious wonderful king, a judge, some glorious, transcendent, unattached being, who only felt love, joy and happiness. As an adult, through really encountering Jesus, I recognized that, like a young child who doesn't really understand what his or her parents may be going through, I had been ignorant of Jesus all along.
In my experience, if one reads the gospels, paying attention to all the times that Jesus weeps, sheds tears, and what he expresses about how he feels (indirectly through his words), then one cannot but help encounter a different kind of Jesus to the one taught by well-meaning pastors and believers who have never considered how much a man of sorrow was our Lord. Yes, he is the Lord of Glory and Light, but he also bears the sins of the world, and more importantly, the suffering of the world, in his single perfect heart.
Anyway, that's my thought.
You are certainly correct about one thing. None of them, or us, can escape the consequences of our choices.
Thanks again for replying, sharing your views. I look forward to seeing more of your posts on the board. FI
I love your fighting spirit. I've learned alot about you in your sharing. Honestly, that's really awesome, and thanks for investing the time. My initial feelings about our rooftop tendie have been confirmed. You're a fricken' good egg.
Pardon my french.
I think I do find it hard to relate to the some of the harsh feelings or what seems like hard-heartedness sometimes expressed on the board. Not because I do not despise evil or hate the results. But I'm also very wary of the devil sneaking in and creating division in people's hearts.
But I want to emphasize: I'm not championing the parents. I'm championing the children. Because when I look at people, all I see is small children and big children, grown children and immature children. From God's viewpoint (I believe) every single one of his children has been violated.
I know that there are messed out people out there. Hell is very real to me. I know what hell is like, and that's why I tend to avoid focusing on such people. But I also know a lot about what heaven is like, I'd like to think. Maybe, not sure. If heaven is feeling your father's presence every single day, then yeah.
And yes, I consider myself, extremely, very, over-the-top lucky. The blessings I've received are inexpressible, my worthiness? Well, don't wanna be arrogant and think I can know, but I know that no one is really worthy, except you know who.
So, later I'll offer a prayer for your protection, and for God to give you a double helping of fighting spirit. And, I'll also pray that IF necessary, he guides you on how to best apply it. If necessary... I'm not presuming that you aren't applying it in the best way or as God desires. I'm just saying, if you have a really powerful AK47, then use it in the best way to get the best, right effect. Hope that makes sense. Not insinuating that you aren't a good shot. Just saying that both you and I can improve our talents, to His greater glory and to our world's greater good. That's worth praying for, right?
Just one thing: "you've opened your heart so far that to me it's like overdriving your headlights. You're taking on unnecessary amts of pain when no one asked you to."
Hehe Story of my life. No, seriously, won't go into it, but it's kind of a family trait. There are times when God has indicated the exact same thing. Dude, you're opening up your heart so much it's hurting me! Lower the volume, bro. And don't carry it all so much.
Hehehe. Still very much a work in progress. And I get by with a little help from my friends.
OK. Well, its been a treat. Battering away at the keyboard, instead of working like I should be doing. But whatevs.
Hey, I'm glad your on our side. More strength and power to you.
I'll wrap it up here... FI
"This is the kind of thing I love when I meet people .....that doesn't fold like wet paper when I BARK at it."
I think I'm like that in a way. But my bark is like, being too sincere, to unable to be superficial. I dump sincereness on people, and if they don't fold up and close up, then I feel like, OK. I can work with this. (I can connect).
Having had two parents who were very good at not opening up, I somehow evolved to be too open for most humans. Whatch'a gonna do? Heart, meet sleeve. (Again, over-exaggeration, but kind of, anyway...)
"Standup comedy" One of the most amazing art forms in existence. When its good, its the bomb.
"What about you, i feel guilty now you pray for me so what do I pray for you. I have to reciprocate, and you're super awesome person. What shall I pray for you to join in agreement with you on. You name it. Protection? Joy? Winning lotto numbers? <3"
Hmmmmm.... Lemme think about it. Lotto numbers a definite option.
OK. What do I say?
You know I complained about stuff I don't like or which makes me disappointed, some of the stuff that comes across this board.
Well, I got to tell you, I just read through all three replies (like I was ripping into a box of cornflakes after a 10 day fast) and I'm really blown over. Your replies are what I LOVE MOST about this board. Really awesome _ I'm kind a lit up now _ Yeah, I can be very emotionally charged at times.
Anyway, there's a lot in the replies, but most of all (what I personally like most) is that you really come across as who you are, and your sharing something with me about who you are, how you think and why you think like you do. It's so awesome, because here's the thing. We read lines of text - a headline here, a comment there - and we often (i'm generalizing here) come away with conclusions and impressions that are really, really off. By which I mean, at least I certainly do this - I come away with an idea about a person - I'm very energetically inclined and get a sense of the energies through the words and expressions - I'm also a linguist - but it's really only when effort is made that sometimes you a can transcend those initial impressions, and get a fuller sense.
There are a bunch of things you've written that I'd like to respond to. I mean, I don;t know; I also sense who much you don't really know about me (how could you), but at a minimum, I'm really chuffed at the time and effort you've made to reply.
So, without going into to much meta-analysis, I'll try to respond naturally to a few things.
Yeah, I DO have a powerful sense of empathy and sympathy, and have had since young. However, I have also lived with a really crazy level of anger in my heart a lot of my life. It's really only in the last few years that God has begun to show me and teach me about this. I would keep so much locked down (and, perhaps, suppressed by the sorrow and other things) that when my anger came out, whew. Total blaze. Never violent (thankfully), at least, never expressed in physical violence again anyone, but certain emotional 'violence', basically like a massive raging storm.
Maybe a little hulk-like. And, it always felt deeply justified, because I was coming from a place of righteousness (I believed) and always with an intent to see the right thing happened. I would get so frustrated when I felt people were ignoring their responsibility to be good, to do right, to sacrifice themselves instead of sacrificing others for their own comfort. Really, like a hurricane, emotionally.
Only in the last two years has God revealed to me how much trauma and difficulty this created for my family, who I love profoundly and powerfully.
So I've been learning where this comes from, and what I have been in denial of, such that I could not even recognize how I felt.
I'm intense in my observations of humans, and can pick up a LOT of stuff, and am normally a very calming, supportive kind of person. But when I lose it, man, I rage as if I'd gone supernova. Which is NOT very often.
I mention all this to say, boy oh boy, if I get really triggered, when I think of evil, or what people have been doing to my people (the people of my state are MY people) then, I go lit. So, anyway, yeah, no, I'm certainly not a sad sack or one of those "oh, can't we all just get along?" type of people. But anyway. More next...
"I spose it's not entirely fair to put someone through a little hoop of fire before I deign them worthy of a detailed response."
hehehe. Nah, it's fair as. Sounds like a solid strategy.
I think I'm like you. I like engaging, but I love engaging when people come back and make the effort to work through the muck to get to the gold. That's where all the gold is, imo. not on the surface. It's under the dirt, the much and stuff. Some people simply want to pick the flowers and the nice stuff growing in the soil, and don't want to ge their hands dirty, but in my experience, the real gold is where you dig. If it's on the surface, there's a reasonable likelihood that some of its just fool's gold.
Linguist: Fluent in 3 languages, semi-fluent in others. Occupation: translation. So, translating Q, for example, and translating God, for example, is where the real action is, for me. Creating bridges across differences in thought, ideas, expressions, aka 'language'.
" If I get sad, I fall down a bottomless well and can't get back out."
Hahah. I knew it! That's why you got attack skills. You're a sensie. I'm glad. Protect yourself, as if God thought you are precious (he does!).
Interesting to hear about your mum. You know, around may last year, God triggered off some dynamite in my .... self ... that had been laying around for decades. Really, really good stuff, major shifts. Still working through that. But a really big part of the process has been a book that I was put on to. "It Didn't Start with You: How Inherited Family Trauma Shapes Who We Are and How to End the Cycle". Helped me to find out that a lot of the stuff I'd been carrying since the year 0 was inherited and connected to the grandparents I never knew (my mother's parents). Recommended to any person, really. Big leaps in this field, also in the last 5-10 years. We're finally figuring out that we are more than just "me" - that we're part of a much bigger framework, and we're all interconnected.
PS.
Haha. Yeah. Actually, your mornin' is my ev'ning! Evening for you now (?) afternoon for me! Basically, we have the whole ball covered.
Given your description of your childhood personality and nature and how you you tackled with that, I can say I feel a sort of pride. Like, yeah, I imagine God and think he's probably feels a lot of pride in you. Not letting anyone push you around. It's awesome.
I do appreciate your comments about not being fake with regards to how one builds their relationship with Jesus. I do think I've received a lot of natural protection over the course of my life. For whatever reason, God did not put me in harms way from the nutjobs, the psychopaths, and the demonically possessed. I mean, I pick up on that sort of presence very, very quickly, and I do not interact with it, or such people. And, I've never felt drawn to.
"so I can't grieve or cry or open my heart when it just isn't in me to do it." Yeah, that's cool. I mean, we're all different. Although, I have such a rather strong prejudice with regards to Jesus, due to my experiences and living relationship with him, that I tend to forget that. And, I suppose its really true, that's an impression of Jesus that was shaped by my early experiences and nature.
Actually, my dad was very narcissistic in a lot of ways, but also very sensitive and compassionate. Interesting man, he grew up in in country where the Nazis rolled in when he was 8 years of age, and lived under their regime for about 5 years. Near starvation, massive trauma in his childhood, but he was never able to even recognize it. A large part of his heart was locked away from me, and from himself. Really a beautiful man, but a man who was buried under unrecognized inner pain. So, lol, he could be intensely and extremely intolerant of others, and yet he thought he was the most tolerant person!
As an adult, I underwent a 12 year journey in my relationship with him to find out who he was, what the nature of our relationship really was, and ended up really loving the guy.
My mum, likewise, tragic childhood. Abused by a relative as a young child with her twin sister, he mum passed away when my mum was 11, and her dad when she was 16. All locked up, unable to express many locked down emotions.
Terrier, huh. That's cool. Because we need some of that. yeah, we certainly do.
I personally think that some children will not be able to forgive their parents, but I also think that many will be able to, too. They'll recognize it. That's all I'm saying. I guess I tend to focus on certain people and certain behaviors, and I guess you do too. Just kinda different in focus. Which, really, is a very good thing. Cos God teaches us and helps us to grow through others, if we are open to Him.
I still find it a bit hard to relate to your disgust, because perhaps, yeah, I really do NOT focus on or give my attention to the shitbags who do really shitty stuff. To be honest, over a lifetime, I've learned that I cannot afford to. Because It WOULD grieve me too much, and I'd be useless. There are mountains of things out that happening that I will not allow myself to think about, because frankly, its too real. I don't need to see it to know its happening. So I give my energy and attention where I feel God directs me too. But thank God also for pedes like yourself. As long as we put Him first, then there's no real problem. He'll use you and he'll use me in the best ways possible, as long as we offer it all to him.
"But basically if I say "God forgive you because I don't think I can", well... that's the truth. I can TRY to forgive, and I can pray for that to come over me. And anyway it's not my place to forgive them anyway. But these vax-parents need forgiveness from Jesus, because they won't get it from society, and may not even get it from their own kids."
I don't quite see it that way, but I can relate to what you say, and I respect it. If you can't, you can't. Not because you're not a good person, but because you ARE a good person. Personally, I think God forces himself to forgive sometimes because he needs to, not because he wants to. I feel like I've learned so much about where you are coming from, and it inspires me to honor God more. I mean, I glorify God because I get such a much better sense of where you're at and where you're coming from. And, it's good.
"I knew I liked you. Haha!" hahaha. Yeah, likewise. (I believe I pointeds that out while ranting in my first comment!)
"I get like Paul Atraides in the Gom Jabbar." Hmmm. Yeah, that rings all sorts of bells. Letting emotions just roll over me is kind of my speciality. That is, not denying them, not negating them, but letting them come in, throw me around, but holding my center all the while. Have become really good at it - in some areas. Which is why discovering my anger consciously was a real biggy. I was experiencing it all the time, but completely unable to see it!
"I KNOW I stuff it down" Hmmm. (if any of what follows is unwelcome, please just shove it out the door!) Yeah, that's your mum coming through. If my energetic senses are correct (and they usually are - I don't really need time and space for this stuff, it just comes) this was your mum's stuff. She cannot get angry because there was very likely someone with real anger issues who did a lot of damage or who was very damaged, or someone who really experenced overwhelming tragic sorrow. Might be a parent of her's or a relative, or someone further back. It all comes down the line.
Anyway, unlocking this stuff can really help you move forward. Just make sure to do it with prayer and offering, and hold onto the Rock! But I mentioned that book in the last comment for this reason. Maybe the reason we interfracted here was to share that little nugget.
If you're interested, I recommend getting the book and taking a peek. It's transformative for me (and I'm still in that process). The things we inherit from our lineage .....
"But if I get sad about something really REAL, I might not ever get back up (an exaggeration, but it sums up the root feeling)."
Hah! Look who's good at articulating themselves!!! Look, well said. But If I'm reading all the points properly, all this indicates to me that you're carrying someone else's load. And a) that's not a bad thing, because it helps to make you who you are and b) when you resolve this or liberate this, those who carried or still carry the load can experience liberation through (you).
The point is, not to deny the load (that would only stifle) but to understand where it originally comes from, and WHO, and then to release back into the wild.
OK. I'm probably totally over-stepping the bounds of privacy and social decorum, so just put all of this aside if it feels inappropriate. But healing is really a big part of what I've been called to do (by God), so I'm kind of compulsive about that sort of thing. (Another trait I need to get balance on.)
Either way, uber-joyful to read your replies. Yay!
--Complains about rooftop not having compassion and judgement.
--Does not have compassion and passes judgement on rooftop.
Think mirror?
Maybe. I'm not perfect. But perhaps you'll notice that the key point of my comment is to express how I feel about the post. Is that judgment?
Can you outline here where you think I've cast judgment on rooftop?
Aside from the point that I think Rooftop's reprimand/rebuke/reproving of parents who have 'injected their kids' is far too over-generalizing, factually, with regards to some parents, I think she is factually correct.
However, my reproach, if you want call it that, is a lament that rooftop's heart seems really quite hard. To me, anyway. On this point, too.
I also expressed my sincere admiration and even affection for Rooftop. How would you suggest I show compassion? I'm ALL ears. If I can learn though you, I want to.
I expressed disappointment. Is that judgment? I expressed heartache. Is that judgment? I expressed a view about how I think God sees a type of behavior. Is that judgment?
Perhaps judgment was the wrong word. She's not really judging them, except maybe in her heart. She's warning them, and reproaching them.
It's one thing to honestly share your heart; it's another thing to judge. To judgment involves condemnation.
Do I condemn Rooftop? (Question: Does she condemn the parents in this point?)
I'm fully open to reflection. But at some point, when you say you cannot offer your feelings or view on someone's actions because its judging, you establish a cycle that neutralizes any ability to feel, share and offer feedback.
Do I judge Rooftop for the post she made and how she framed her attitude? I'm certainly not condemning her. And, if I do judge, then yes, perhaps I'm at fault. How do you suggest that I express my feelings without "judging"?
Thanks for your moving reply.
I think you articulate some of the issues well; describing how the ego can attach to this or that emotion or thought, and use it as a pivot point.
"the devil wants god's children to turn on one another, its the oldest game he has ever played" This is something that the wisest of the wise remember. Divide and conquer is not merely a political ploy. It's the method of evil.
(For example, scripture explains that the serpent (the archangel Lucifer) first asked Eve "Did God say NNNN? It's not true. YYYY is true" those words had the primary single purpose of dividing Eve from her Father, by fermenting distrust and disbelief in Him. Divide, then conquer. The purpose of her faith in God and his command was to bind her to him during that period when she was vulnerable.)
I don't know that it couldn't have happened any other way. I'm not a fatalist in my faith or outlook. My faith conviction is that God's will manifests into reality based on the following formula:
God's portion of work (we'll call it God's "responsibility", which he takes on freely and with conscious choice) + the human portion of work (our responsibility, assigned to us by God, for our own benefit, for our growth, and so that we are co-creators with him) = fulfillment of God's will.
This is why history repeats, and the same patterns re-occur in history, and in scripture; because God sets up one person, or family, or people, or nation, to fulfill a certain role in His plan, and if that person, or family, or people, or nation, fails, God has to find someone else He can then set up to fulfill it. This happens again and again until the work has been done. When one person (or family, or people, or nation) fails his or her responsibility, another must eventually step up and resolve it. E.g. Adam's failure >>> resolved by Jesus. Abraham's failure (in the first offering) >>>> resolved by Isaac and Jacob. etc. NB: Parable of the vineyard: (Israel failed to recognize the Messiah, Jesus, so God established Christians as a world-level 'people' to do the job.)
Anyway, point is, I don't know if it HAD to be this way, but as you say, what has happened has happened, and attaching to that too much can lead the ego astray. I also believe that what we do today and tomorrow, can change the course of events. God is the great architect of our lives and the life of humanity, but we all have a role to play, too, to the best of our ability.
Your emphasis on love, compassion, and praying for healing are ... well, just great. When we practice such a heart, I believe GOd's heart is much comforted.
Thank you very much for your comment.
“Honey, I did it in order to virtue signal online what a good parent I was. How was I to know you’d be a sterile cripple the rest of your life?”
Oof. That story hit me in the gut.
That one hurt. Entirely different circumstances, but it hurt.
Hey Rooftop, I think you're the one I talked to about my narcissist in-laws a couple months back. I'm the one that finally cut them off permanently. My husband has finally been standing up to them. His mom tried to use the old guilt (pity)/shame (cold/angry chastisement) tactics (her go-to weapons), on him regarding me and he wasn't having it. It turns out his Christian mother bold-faced lied about what she had done and then tried to say he didn't hear her right. He's finally awake. Better late than never. Edit: I'm a Christian... I'm just astounded she'd do that. I
Thanks- you're so sweet. A lot of people have no idea what dealing with narcissism is like. I'm glad I finally know what the clinical classification is for their family system. They are right on schedule with your prediction of weird stunts! I'm doing fantastically though. Having a continent between us has always been a huge help. I've been pointing out their bullshit for decades (to my husband) but always acted respectfully to them. I'm glad to finally have said what I needed to say. Now that I laid it all on the table, he's requiring that they address their behavior toward him and they don't like it one bit... I'm admiring him for finally dealing with them as they need to be dealt with. Having lived through observing their sickness... I appreciate your calling out the same sicknesses when you sense it on this board. It's refreshing. People that rail against it... they just don't know.
So Jesus helps you and others, just not this kid?
I'm pointing out this dissonance because you said "Jesus is the only one". The Jesus character isn't the only archetypal representation of truth and healing.
Nice comeback. Just dig deeper into the cognitive dissonance.
> Christians are not the same as Christian Scientists.
You said ONLY JESUS can heal their family relationships.
The Christian Scientists have more faith in Jesus than you because they believed God will also protect and heal the body.
Unlike you apparently since you want to distance yourself from them.
> You're using me to assure yourself that your atheism is good and correct.
I'm not an atheist.
> You took it off on a whole other tangent that doesn't pertain to the point
It was perfectly pertanant.
> you're feigning obtuseness
No. I'm calling you out for being a hypocrite.
> your basic questions ("Why don't Christians just pray and take no further action, if Jesus is all they need? And conversely, if you Christians believe you have to go to the doctor, then why don't you go to the doctor for everything? Which is it, Christians?")
No, I said "So Jesus helps you and others, just not this kid?".
You mock the Christian Scientists but you're the same kind of fundamentalist. Doctors are obviously untrustworthy. Seems like these people are more intuitive to that than you are. You should understand that as a mod here of all places. Shouldn't trusting God for healing take precedent over trusting corrupted men?
Not trusting doctors isn't the same as refusing to eat food any more because God will nourish you. LMAO
Obviously got under your skin since you reeeeed in such a long response.
So, you are saying we SHOULD take our kids to the doctor and do what the doctor says?
I think he is saying that you need to be able to medically discern when your child may have a problem that western medicine can actually fix. Its not often, but it is sometimes the way. Western medicine is not 100% lost, so recognizing what treatments are simultaneously necessary and low risk is important.
Perhaps I'm being too negative? Just tired of it all.
Spot On
You have to understand, this was a massive brainwashing, hypnosis, cattle herding, etc….. while to us it seems completely illogical, we have to understand and empathize with those who succumbed. The day is coming when they learn the truth, and we should keep reminding them (with evidence) of how they were tricked. I hate liberal ideology as much as anyone here, but I’ve learned over the years to be empathetic to them because liberalism is a mental disease and it has a cure. And I just want to end it with this
Fuck the liberals
But love them too
Why do you care about their relationship with their kids? All I’m hearing is you touting “I told you so” which is absolutely warranted, but not in line with Q or your Jesus’ teachings. These people, while they appear evil to you maybe, only succumbed to evil through ignorance.
The day is coming that none of this will matter. Vaccines, mandates, even Q will be a faint blip on what we know and experience.
Not all succumbed through ignorance. I talked till I was blue in the face and they decided we couldn't talk "politics" at all anymore. I was shutdown but they can't claim ignorance. I told my entire family. I went from being considered one of the more intelligent into the far right trump loving conspiracy kook who was too retarded to understand "the science" and the numbers of deaths in the stats. I just can't.
What has happened, happened. What is important is how people react to it. Hopefully the parents will seek out detox treatments that may help. And hopefully they realize that they should avoid further vaxes.
Agreed. I know many folks who took the vaxxx to keep their jobs. Many people in their 40s,50s,60s who have been let down by their government their entire lives. That I know of, not many kids have been vaxxxed, but I do feel for these people who “just wanted to live life”.
At least, in my experience these are the people who LISTEN as problems with the vaxxx are aired on TV, as they know they are part of a “failed experiment” (really, a successful war crime)
You have no idea how many times I’ve thought of this! I’m surrounded by nice sheeple, who love their children and will be devastated when they realize what they’ve done! They tried to convince me to vaxx my family and judged me behind my back. Now they’re having so many “weird” issues. Wait till they realize why.
Good, smart, and hardworking people unknowingly fell for it because “everyone else is doing it”…
I can’t blame them, but I am deeply saddened for whatever the future brings to them. The compliant vaxxx-Karens on the other hand, hate the fact that nobody is enforcing anything anymore, and I just laugh and tell them it’s not my fault I wasn’t outsmarted by a trillion-dollar drug/war cartel
We have decided to not vax our kids, even before knowing all the bad shit. However, so many people around us are getting their kids vaxxed. I feel bad for my kids when their friends start having issues and possibly die as a result. The survivors of this situation will have a lot of mental anguish to deal with as they start losing more and more people around them. So sad.
Myself, my wife and my oldest/14 year old daughter. I tried to warn them to wait as my wife and I had received the vaxx right after they came out. I had JJ. She had Pfizer. I was awake and trying to research/confirm the vaxx info very early on, but learned the truth a few days too late. They both thought I was just throwing out silly conservative conspiracy stuff. So I couldn’t convince them not to. My wife got Pfizer boosted when my 14 year old got vaxx’d. Luckily they’ve both refused further boosters due to all the mixed media info, and both no longer trust what anyone says about the vaccines. But all to little too late. Just too damn late.
It's not too late. Start taking lots of vitamins and NAC etc. I'm just looking into nattokinase for dissolving hidden clots because my wife is vaxxed.
Maybe avoid very heavy exercise and keep tabs on your blood pressure and pulse.
Yep we all load up on C, D, zinc, water, regular vitamins. We be on it. If we can’t totally rid ourselves of it, we can at least buy more time with all the vitamins and such. We are all going to heaven anyway, at least those of us that believe in Christ and of God, and aren’t evil. So either way I’m not too worried. WWG1WGA.
I think your bodies will scrub it out eventually.
mRNA is a messenger and not meant to sick around, even though they hardened it with uncommon bases, Your body will find it.
Similarly, your body will scrub the spike protein and you taking supplement to recycle proteins will help seed that up. (Maybe bromelain from pineapples will help here, it helps with protein turnover)
It's just a race against time to avoid lifelong damage done by the toxic protein, but I reckon most people can manage it if they don't ignore the problem.
The cabal wanted to get us on a program of jabs every few months. They weren't expecting to bump us off with a single one.
Think of it like being a very heavy smoker who has given up. maybe in a few years you will not have the same risks, but it you had kept on smoking, it would have caught up with you for sure.
Unless the kids want nothing to do with them in the future.
You underestimate the stupidity of their kids lol
Good point lol
Young kids aren’t fully indoctrinated yet. A 4th grader is more likely smarter then a recent college graduate. A 4th grader hasn’t had their brain turned into mush yet.
Without school/parental pressure if you asked a random 4th grader to take the jab they would say no.
The recent socialist college grad who has transitioned from a human to an orc would try to kill you to get the jab.
What ultimately is so devastating is not only will so many children will be physically injured but effing Big Pharma will continue to make profits on the medical care of these children. They win no matter what. Hell has a special place for them.
Sad but true.
I was shocked at how many people I know are aware of the mark of the beast in the Bible and they didn’t think twice...or even went and re-read it again just to make sure. Nope. They believed Govt is smart and has all the answers.
I don't know quite how to put it into words in the way that I would like, but there is an eery parallel to Exodus in this whole saga, specifically in relation to the 10th plague of Egypt.
Grandson - Blood in the Water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk-U8ruIQyA
For the next time that the government pushes something. Whatever the government says to do......do the opposite.
Those people are largely unfeeling vapid animals. They don’t feel shit for their children which is why they use them as props.
Forgive them father, for they know not what they do.
They not death yet I'm sure if we put our minds to it we can fix it.
Hopefully!
Remember while the Davos crew would have everyone panicked and preoccupied with the fake plandemic, the Davos crew is:
Instituting tyranny
Resetting their financial control
Setting one against the other
You do realize that vast majority of parents did it to protect their children, not injure them. Most didn’t do it for prideful reasons. The parents did what is normally done during a pandemic. Most just wanted to protect their children.
Pride isn’t the only reason, my fren.
Well-said
My husband's parents gave him ADD medication when he was a kid. Pschyotrophic (sp?) freakin drugs without questioning what the chemicals would do to him... because he was a boy that didn't want to sit still for 9 hours a day. I still can't fathom how you would, as a parent, think that was okay.... but these vaxxes.... what level of stupid does one have to be to sign up for GENE-ALTERING drugs being used for the first time?
I agree, they're not like us.
there are only two teams;
children of light/children of darkness-
Matthew 13 Geneva Bible 1599
35 That it might be fulfilled, which was spoken by the Prophet, saying, (I)I will open my mouth in parables, and will utter the things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
36 Then sent Jesus the multitude away, and went into the house. And his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of that field.
37 [g]Then answered he, and said to them, He that soweth the good seed, is the son of man,
38 And the field is the world, and the good seed are the children of the kingdom, and the tares are the children of that wicked one.
39 And the enemy that soweth them, is the devil, (J)and the harvest is the end of the world, and the reapers be the Angels.
40 As then the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his Angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity,
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire. There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 (K)Then shall the just men shine as the sun in the kingdom of their father. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Getting the vax or allowing the injection does Not make anyone a child of darkness.
Agreed
Sinful pride? Sanctimonious nasty rubbish!!l
Parents had their children jabbed to protect them from this deadly bioweapon from China. They were trusting and couldn't conceive that most governments around the world were in on a plot to exterminate most of us.
Be very thankful that you were not caught in that trap ..but do you drink fluoridated water? eat ready meals? Take any medicines? Well you are in a different trap !
and a lot of parents had their kids jabbed so they could brag about it on FB. Munchausens is everywhere in this world and children are pawns in the game.
this is also why Q tells us to 'read the Bible'
and why Vigano writes about Children of Light vs. Children of Darkness...
Yes well vigano wears a frock and only started speaking out after he retired..how many children were raped by bishops and he waited until he retired??? How many died in the satanic rituals he has always been aware of?
And yes parents bragged..look how good a parent I am ..I got my kids vaxxed...just like everyone got their kids jabbed for a sexual disease within hours of birth even though protection lasted right years..and yes I filled their little bodies with aluminium fluoride dog cat pig and human cells and even aborted baby cells human urine formaldehyde and other nasties just like we all did because we believed we were protecting them and being a good parent.because the church and state told us that was good
Yes Q tells you to read the Bible...do some research...who wrote it? That's a good start. There is large sections from the Vedas the Hindu religion for a start....how many books were removed to fit the agenda of Constantine and his cronies in Rome?
Q always saying don't let them divide you and the first thing you hear on this board is only people who accept Jesus as their saviour get to heaven...never seen that in the Bible...division right there..
How come you people don't see this????
Interesting thoughts. I think this underscores the awakening process. Each to their own time.
The jab given to newborns last eight years ..for a sexual disease!
cluster B! <laughs in psych nurse>
I am not making excuses for anyone....especially not a sanctimonious angry person like you.
You didn't read what I said...you have no empathy no compassion so you react the way you do.
We are here to learn and grow....that should be a major lesson for you.
I’m interested in how you see things, what your have to say and your gifts overall. I may not agree or struggle with your position and that’s okay in my book.
I appreciate your passion.
I really appreciate your Meme Classes.
Your efforts facilitated my ability to mobilize a local community to successfully defeat the Pizza and Consent being taught in the schools.
I also think parents need to get their kids out of the government indoctrination ‘schools.’ I’m frustrated at how slow that is resolving.
You’re doing a great job bringing about this debate with your strong feelings and beliefs. I’ve been digging deep cause the whole death by a thousand cuts, pale horse, protocols of Zion, reset, bbb, WEC, agenda 201, 2030, eugenics, the UN, cabal masterminding, death cult, devil worshipping angers the duck out of me!
Newsflash lady, by the time kids could get it you'd have to have had your head in the sand not to know the damage it was causing. Would you put a bullet in a gun, spin the chamber, then give it to your kid? Btw, my anser to your last 3 questions are no, no, and no.
Because 1 of 2 things will happen;
1- their kids/ bloodline dies. They lose their kids, the ability to procreate and perpetuate their lineage. Game over for them.
2- their kids survive, get older, their kids can't procreate, their kids use the life they have to destroy evil people like their parents.
Either way is a win for patriots.
And either way is devastating for innocent children.
You forgot option 3, the kids are just permanently sick with "autoimmune" disease, and hooked on multiple Big Pharma meds for life, unable to do anything to fight back, or even exercise
Ugh
Please don’t be shy; join us to expose the scam.
A Doctor's Remorse.
https://greatawakening.win/p/141rQps1g2
Thank you.
This brings me to vaccination in general. Parents do this to their kids every day across the world knowing they could die or be maimed for life, but “it’s what they’re supposed to do”. Not vaccinating my kids. HELL NO.
Some normies who are finding out the hard way are trying to blame Trump for "pushing it out"
I am praying everyday this does not end up as bad as it sounds. I am seeing stuff that I just don't know what to think. A coworker caught covid a year ago. Recovered then vaxed twice then got the booster 2 months ago. Now has Covid again. I could see you getting Covid once. But twice and with all the jabs.
As a parent, I can say I live with guilt. In the 90’s, we had our daughter vaxxed. After one of them, she ran high fever. My husband and I both feel that the ADD she developed was from the fever and that vaccine. Wish info had been available at that time. She was adopted and is biracial. Our 2 sons were older and had never had a problem so we did not expect that she would.
https://qposts.online/post/528
Well, there's this.....
OP, the elephant in the living room is Trump.