I didn't, until I was in my mid-twenties. I also thought soup --ALL SOUP-- was tomato soup. Whenever I saw other kids at school eating their version of "soup", I thought they must poor or confused. I realized decades later that it was me that was poor. Life was too fun to see it.
Reminds me of a time we were staying at a hotel in Dallas for a wedding. My son (4 at the time)and husband rode the elevator up to our room. When they arrived my son told me there were Japanese people on the elevator speaking Spanish. He thought anyone speaking language other than English was speaking Spanish, lol. It was pretty cute and I'll hold that memory forever.
If you live in the Midwest, yes, you know what real cheese and dairy is. We have the best here. Best cheese curds too. I remember when I went to France their milk had a sort of metallic taste to it. Nasty. I was so happy to return to fresh dairy milk in the Midwest.
I guess a lot of non-US pedes just don't really understand or factor in the levels of diversity across the USA. Where I am, we tend to think of it as one country. But really, the USA is 52 countries, don't you think? Except, formerly united.
The grocery stores being empty HYPE is PURE BULLSHIT to hide the real story. The cheaper foods are being bought up because the economy has been turned to shit and that's all anyone can afford. Ramen, canned meat, processed cheese, boxed pasta. It's NOT a food supply problem. It's an economic problem. There was also no kraft singles cheese at my store or pasta yesterday. But there was plenty of steak nobody can afford.
Nope. Butchered last October so I’m sure the price is higher now. Yes I know the farmer but no “deals”. We bought 1/2 the beef. With processing at the butcher was 2.89/lb.
Wow, I just figured that today’s price would be close to $5.50-$6.00. Still good pricing compared to store junk but goes to show it’s all going UP. If you check Craigslist for Beef For Sale you can find local prices
Rana is our goto Ravioli in a bag now. I have seen some refrigerated brands in specialty stores years ago, though that Rana is hard to beat if you don't make it yourself.
We make our own pasta. You can get an attachment to go on a Kitchen Aide mixer. Much better than store bought. Silky. Homemade sauce too. Today is a nasty day here in NE PA. I think a good day to make some pasta for dinner tonight. Our store shelves are somewhat empty for several things, cat food, sometimes chicken, but have loads and loads of Cheese-its crackers, and still lots of coffee.
Midwest here. Walmart pasta section wiped out. Dollar General paper sections wiped out. This past winter I could not find canning jars and lids anywhere. Now, plentiful.
while I’m sorry that your lunch is messed up, I love that the woman got people to chime in with the truth. That would not have happened last year. What state?
I think it's more a question of domestic transport. At one of our local groceries stores, they were out of pasta (of any kind) for three solid weeks. Now, it's back and there have been no issues since. There's nothing magical about pasta. It's wheat, water, and eggs -- all domestic products, so it shouldn't be due to, say, overseas shipments getting hung up at a port.
I've also noticed that one store has been out of canned pineapple for a couple weeks and yet another local store has plenty of it. I can buy fresh pineapple, with no problems, at the same store that's been out of the canned.
The DC truckers parade may have been the catalyst for the missing cheese by-products (kek). Give it a week or two and it will probably be back on the shelves. Where I live there's been no issues with obtaining cheese.
What I've noticed, overall, is that you can generally get what you want, just maybe not on the exact week you want it. There is always other alternatives that you can buy instead. The solution is to stock up when you see it.
I’m wondering where you live. I haven’t seen much out in the groceries here in Ventura California, just random stuff, like cat food. Yes, some of the cheeses went missing for a week or so, but now I see them again.
I highly recommend learning to bake your own bread, it’s the easiest thing and cheap. I never thought I could do it, but try jennycancook.com for the easiest recipies, using flour, salt, yeast and water.
Cheese isn’t able to be stored for long, but I’m going to guess if you go online, you will be able to have some of your favorite shipped to you.
As the breadmaker in my family I appreciate your remark. I also make most things from scratch and make soup once week. I make enough for a week at time.
It's kinda sad how homesteading arts are fizzled out. There's a lot of people that are going to realize just how dependent they are on the system. Glad to hear a lot on here have a clue. Cheers!
Bingo. Heck I’m a guy and it was a prerequisite in my folks home that the girls and the boys would and could cook. Still can’t make gravy worth a hoot but anything else.... no problem.
I love the homemaking aspect of my life. I even sew, crochet, and knit. Have had lots of time to do those things the past two years, since I haven't worked since the Plandemic started. As an unvaccinated nurse I'm like a pariah to the healthcare facilities.
I, too, bulk cook. I can eat the same things day after day. Sadly, my spoiled mother who wants something new every day, every meal, is gonna have a rude awakening if things get much worse. I’m hoping it doesn’t but at least we will be prepared.
Good luck with your mother, but lack of food variety is better than no food. BTW, I can also eat the same thing for days on end, not sure what's up with that.
Have a bread maker but do it the old way, it’s the best tasting I use a 100 year old Fannie Farmer white loaf recipe. Have not missed store bread at all!
I put it in during the 2nd kneading process after the first rise.
For breads using roux/sponge/poolish --- I DON'T use salt at this stage.
Salt is a double edge sword --- it gives bread good flavor but it kills yeast growth.
Another trick is to put your SALT-LESS first stage roux/sponge/poolish/first-kneading in the refrigerator overnight. This will saturate the dough with CO2.
The cold will help the CO2 bubbles stay in the dough. The bubbles will grow when the dough warms up. The salt, killing the yeast, won't matter as much now.
I've noticed the yeast killing properties of salt. It is remarkable how many ways bread can go wrong and still be edible. I believe I have completely explored the space. Thanks for the new technique. Think I'll give it a try with bagels since they especially benefit from overnight in the refrigerator.
I hope everyone's stockpiled food so they can feed their family when the grocery store shelves are empty.
Just buy extra of what you normally consume, stuff like: cans of baked beans and stew and chili con carne and canned soup and vegetables, ramen noodles, LOTS of rice, pasta, long life milk and milk powder, breakfast cereal like Weetabix, instant coffee, pasta sauce and stir-fry sauce, canned meats like tuna and sausages, sugar and seasoning. Buy LOTS of peanut butter because emergency breadlines will happen after the grocery store shelves are empty and a peanut butter sandwiches will make a satisfying meal when your family is hungry. Serve everything with rice or pasta for extra carbs. Bakes beans become a poor-man's chili con carne if you mix in cumin and chili powder and serve it on rice.
Keep your plastic fizzy drink bottles - wash them out and store water in them. This will save your life if the water supply is interrupted.
Ensure you have at least one battery powered or hand-crank torch and plenty of long-life tealight candles. Normal cheap tealights will burn for over two hours but the taller and more expensive ones will burn for up to nine hours. Put the tealights in short drinking glasses (whisky glasses) for safety.
another tip for lighting is to get the cheap, outdoor solar lights. Keep them outside during the day to charge, and then bring them inside at night to use as lighting. They don't produce much heat and are safer than candles (and re-usable!).
Learn how to pressure can meat, storing away protein will be important when it is too expensive or non-existent at the grocery store. Learn to make bread, and store away basic ingredients like bread flour, salt, sugar, oil, and yeast. Plant a garden, even if you only produce a couple of tomatoes and a cucumber, you are 1 step closer to not depending on the system. There is a learning curve to gardening, so start now.
Think about what life would be like without power, running water, sewer, etc. How would you get water, how would you use the bathroom, how would you dispose of waste?
My family acquired two dogs once. Pups. Big pups, blue healer / bull mastiff mix. Two brothers. My sister and I got each for our own. My sister screwed up one day, and instead of pouring two different piles of dog food, she only poured one. Only 1 pup made it out of that situation alive. Killed his own brother over a pile of food. I know humans aren't dogs, but I do know this, don't get in between a hungry man and his food.
No idea why reading this I was reminded of the best grilled ham and cheese I ever ate. At my friend's grandparents house some years ago. Was made with thick slices of real cheese and ham and idk how but it was just so good
I feel this so much.. have. Dumbass friend complaing about gas prices and ends his complaint "its because of the Russian Ukraine war". Cheese, gas, it's all because of Biden and these fucksticks are so stupid it's PAINFUL. I'm glad the deli had some cheese. I cant find red enchilada sauce or fruity cheerios ANYWHERE. Every day I pray for the shit to hit the fan and the cleansing of these assholes to begin.
64% of this country lives paycheck to paycheck. You can be damn sure they are noticing the price increases and have been doing all they can to stretch their paychecks into more food - quantity over quality.
Well you would be better with smoked Turkey lunch meat and some avocado anyway. No eggs at the Walmart here for a week now. The little local grocery store still has eggs though. Our next post will be everyone telling what all we put on our sandwiches back when we had bread.
It's an account where someone's relative (uncle, maybe?) describes what they do with reject/bad cheese and how it ends with nothing of nutritional value.
Been seeing shelves sparse or empty. Everything pulled to the front with no stock behind it. Some of the more noticeable were coffee, dog food, cat food, shampoo, some dairy. But every week something else is missing. It’s weird. My brother noticed too about the cat food and saw cans of tuna in that isle.
and then everybody clapped.
:^)
u/#pleaseclap
Jeb! is a mess.
Yeb!
clap, you bastards! 🤣😂
"Who Moved My Cheese?" the post.
Walk over to the deli and have them slice you real cheese. That garbage is processed seed oil anyway.
But right on putting the weak bitch in her place.
Just gonna say head over to the deli for sliced cheese.
I frequently wonder if Americans know what actual, real cheese is.
Signed, 8000 miles from the USA
I didn't, until I was in my mid-twenties. I also thought soup --ALL SOUP-- was tomato soup. Whenever I saw other kids at school eating their version of "soup", I thought they must poor or confused. I realized decades later that it was me that was poor. Life was too fun to see it.
Reminds me of a time we were staying at a hotel in Dallas for a wedding. My son (4 at the time)and husband rode the elevator up to our room. When they arrived my son told me there were Japanese people on the elevator speaking Spanish. He thought anyone speaking language other than English was speaking Spanish, lol. It was pretty cute and I'll hold that memory forever.
If you live in the Midwest, yes, you know what real cheese and dairy is. We have the best here. Best cheese curds too. I remember when I went to France their milk had a sort of metallic taste to it. Nasty. I was so happy to return to fresh dairy milk in the Midwest.
I guess a lot of non-US pedes just don't really understand or factor in the levels of diversity across the USA. Where I am, we tend to think of it as one country. But really, the USA is 52 countries, don't you think? Except, formerly united.
Yes, we do. It is made from our own happy cows.
The grocery stores being empty HYPE is PURE BULLSHIT to hide the real story. The cheaper foods are being bought up because the economy has been turned to shit and that's all anyone can afford. Ramen, canned meat, processed cheese, boxed pasta. It's NOT a food supply problem. It's an economic problem. There was also no kraft singles cheese at my store or pasta yesterday. But there was plenty of steak nobody can afford.
I agree with this.
People are buying fingerling potatoes and little small potatoes over the larger bagged potatoes because they are cheaper.
People are going back to "Depression era" cooking with spam, ramen, cheap hot dogs and cheap cheese singles.
Who?
I’m still eating rib eyes on sale at 7 bucks a pound.
I’m still eating Ribeyes, flat irons, t-bones at $3.00/pd. But direct from the farmer and get the good stuff at reasonable prices.
I raise my own ribeyes lol, I just have to pay the butcher fee.
I did but sold the acreage 10 yrs ago and now looking for a 40 or 80.
How you getting that cheap ? Must be frens with the farmer?
Nope. Butchered last October so I’m sure the price is higher now. Yes I know the farmer but no “deals”. We bought 1/2 the beef. With processing at the butcher was 2.89/lb.
Oh i thought he was selling you steaks only. You took 1/2 a cow . That makes more sense at that price.
Wow, I just figured that today’s price would be close to $5.50-$6.00. Still good pricing compared to store junk but goes to show it’s all going UP. If you check Craigslist for Beef For Sale you can find local prices
Seriously, it's impossible to find chicken breasts, yet the prices haven't shot up near me lol. Wtf is going on
Not really...chickens breast are located in the usual spot. ; )
Well, he's not a veterinarian... how would he know where the chicken breast is located!
You in a largely populated area?
Yeah, nyc area.
Damn interesting reply.
Rana is our goto Ravioli in a bag now. I have seen some refrigerated brands in specialty stores years ago, though that Rana is hard to beat if you don't make it yourself.
We make our own pasta. You can get an attachment to go on a Kitchen Aide mixer. Much better than store bought. Silky. Homemade sauce too. Today is a nasty day here in NE PA. I think a good day to make some pasta for dinner tonight. Our store shelves are somewhat empty for several things, cat food, sometimes chicken, but have loads and loads of Cheese-its crackers, and still lots of coffee.
This. OP may not understand this, but I'll make an individual post to explain it
Don’t take a Man’s Ham Sammich!
This is the precipice
P.s. I like how you said sammich, it makes me think of Godwin on Duck Dynasty
Sounds like Billy Gardell and his Pittsburgh accent.
Omg! Godwin! Yes! 🙌🏻😂 I forgot about that but he does say it in a way that’s so much fun to hear! 😂🤷🏼♀️
Some of my people say, “Sangwich.” A good Sangwich can change your life.
Same people that say peeksa instead of pizza
They sound like the same type that dip their fries in mayonnaise. Psychopaths.
Ewwwwwww that’s gross.
Nearly everything is better with mayonnaise. Including french fries!
I cant help but hear that in Eric Cartman's voice.
A friend said chicken was gone when she went, yet the store by us was ok, milk always seems to be hit or miss.
Midwest here. Walmart pasta section wiped out. Dollar General paper sections wiped out. This past winter I could not find canning jars and lids anywhere. Now, plentiful.
Eat Texas here. 👆have been seeing this EXACT same thing. Pasta has been out for a while - couple months best i remember.
Lmfao
Canning supplies have been scarce for last 5 years TBH.
On supermarket runs --- pasta is the first food thing to go.
while I’m sorry that your lunch is messed up, I love that the woman got people to chime in with the truth. That would not have happened last year. What state?
How about Seed to Table? Are they stocked?
Dude, you can't say "cheese" and "Velveeta" in the same breathe. 😳 You gotta buy the real thing -- the good stuff. Someone did you a favor today.
I can't disagree with your description! 😂
So you do eat crayons.
Just the red ones.
Everyone knows green tastes the best, come on!
Yes, definitely the green ones are better. Red ones are only good with dip lol
Lol🐸👌
I think it's more a question of domestic transport. At one of our local groceries stores, they were out of pasta (of any kind) for three solid weeks. Now, it's back and there have been no issues since. There's nothing magical about pasta. It's wheat, water, and eggs -- all domestic products, so it shouldn't be due to, say, overseas shipments getting hung up at a port.
I've also noticed that one store has been out of canned pineapple for a couple weeks and yet another local store has plenty of it. I can buy fresh pineapple, with no problems, at the same store that's been out of the canned.
The DC truckers parade may have been the catalyst for the missing cheese by-products (kek). Give it a week or two and it will probably be back on the shelves. Where I live there's been no issues with obtaining cheese.
What I've noticed, overall, is that you can generally get what you want, just maybe not on the exact week you want it. There is always other alternatives that you can buy instead. The solution is to stock up when you see it.
Dude. I’m saving this in my scrapbook. What a post that so well describes where we are, what we are living. Thanks for the smile. Good luck w/lunch.
At least the lady from wonderland got to hear an honest poll...
Crunchy PB-&-J for the win! A flashback comfort food.
What is Ezekiel bread 🧐
cheeky copypasta edit
I’m wondering where you live. I haven’t seen much out in the groceries here in Ventura California, just random stuff, like cat food. Yes, some of the cheeses went missing for a week or so, but now I see them again.
I highly recommend learning to bake your own bread, it’s the easiest thing and cheap. I never thought I could do it, but try jennycancook.com for the easiest recipies, using flour, salt, yeast and water.
Cheese isn’t able to be stored for long, but I’m going to guess if you go online, you will be able to have some of your favorite shipped to you.
I bake my own bread. It's easy ,especially if you have a breadmaker.
I have a breadmaker. She's doing the laundry now. It's nice, 10/10 would recommend.
As the breadmaker in my family I appreciate your remark. I also make most things from scratch and make soup once week. I make enough for a week at time.
It's kinda sad how homesteading arts are fizzled out. There's a lot of people that are going to realize just how dependent they are on the system. Glad to hear a lot on here have a clue. Cheers!
Bingo. Heck I’m a guy and it was a prerequisite in my folks home that the girls and the boys would and could cook. Still can’t make gravy worth a hoot but anything else.... no problem.
Some things that people call "homesteading" today
were just normal family things back in the 1960s
(especially if you lived in the country).
I love the homemaking aspect of my life. I even sew, crochet, and knit. Have had lots of time to do those things the past two years, since I haven't worked since the Plandemic started. As an unvaccinated nurse I'm like a pariah to the healthcare facilities.
I, too, bulk cook. I can eat the same things day after day. Sadly, my spoiled mother who wants something new every day, every meal, is gonna have a rude awakening if things get much worse. I’m hoping it doesn’t but at least we will be prepared.
Good luck with your mother, but lack of food variety is better than no food. BTW, I can also eat the same thing for days on end, not sure what's up with that.
I agree, just not too sure she will see it that way lol
Have a bread maker but do it the old way, it’s the best tasting I use a 100 year old Fannie Farmer white loaf recipe. Have not missed store bread at all!
Maybe you out of cheese there cuz so many people moving there
Some things to try
part of the dough is from a flour/water cooked roux
part of the dough is from an overnight sponge/poolish (wet dough)
diastatic malt syrup ( yeast loves it)
Use flour that has lots of gluten (bread flour)
Knead the crap out of it
A big part of the flavor is salt.
Salt kills the the yeast growth so I put it in as late as possible.
How do you put the salt in late? I mix it in with the other dry ingredients at the start. I can't imagine trying to work it into the dough.
I put it in during the 2nd kneading process after the first rise.
For breads using roux/sponge/poolish --- I DON'T use salt at this stage.
Salt is a double edge sword --- it gives bread good flavor but it kills yeast growth.
Another trick is to put your SALT-LESS first stage roux/sponge/poolish/first-kneading in the refrigerator overnight. This will saturate the dough with CO2.
The cold will help the CO2 bubbles stay in the dough. The bubbles will grow when the dough warms up. The salt, killing the yeast, won't matter as much now.
I've noticed the yeast killing properties of salt. It is remarkable how many ways bread can go wrong and still be edible. I believe I have completely explored the space. Thanks for the new technique. Think I'll give it a try with bagels since they especially benefit from overnight in the refrigerator.
... then there is sourdough --- which requires a lot of patience to start an keep the starter.
There is a faux sourdough using plain yogurt. I only tries it once. It was sub optimal.
I'll try it again someday with some different variables.
Diastatic malt syrup is a must with bagels.
https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/blog/2022/03/14/difference-between-diastatic-malt-non-diastatic-malt-barley-malt-syrup
Beer bread. Cheap, quick, easy. Mom used to make it if we were out - back when stores were closed on Sunday.
“Mom”?
Mine or yours?
Either. Sure wouldn't be me. Rather drink a beer than eat it. 😂
Hehe
Breadmaker = life changing.
I hope everyone's stockpiled food so they can feed their family when the grocery store shelves are empty.
Just buy extra of what you normally consume, stuff like: cans of baked beans and stew and chili con carne and canned soup and vegetables, ramen noodles, LOTS of rice, pasta, long life milk and milk powder, breakfast cereal like Weetabix, instant coffee, pasta sauce and stir-fry sauce, canned meats like tuna and sausages, sugar and seasoning. Buy LOTS of peanut butter because emergency breadlines will happen after the grocery store shelves are empty and a peanut butter sandwiches will make a satisfying meal when your family is hungry. Serve everything with rice or pasta for extra carbs. Bakes beans become a poor-man's chili con carne if you mix in cumin and chili powder and serve it on rice.
Keep your plastic fizzy drink bottles - wash them out and store water in them. This will save your life if the water supply is interrupted.
Ensure you have at least one battery powered or hand-crank torch and plenty of long-life tealight candles. Normal cheap tealights will burn for over two hours but the taller and more expensive ones will burn for up to nine hours. Put the tealights in short drinking glasses (whisky glasses) for safety.
Better have plenty of lead and be ready to use it. The joggers will be out in force if they think food is short and you have some.
I just moved from Jogger Central (DC) to a jogging-free zone in NC. Glorious. Also been 92 days since I've seen a burka.
another tip for lighting is to get the cheap, outdoor solar lights. Keep them outside during the day to charge, and then bring them inside at night to use as lighting. They don't produce much heat and are safer than candles (and re-usable!).
Learn how to pressure can meat, storing away protein will be important when it is too expensive or non-existent at the grocery store. Learn to make bread, and store away basic ingredients like bread flour, salt, sugar, oil, and yeast. Plant a garden, even if you only produce a couple of tomatoes and a cucumber, you are 1 step closer to not depending on the system. There is a learning curve to gardening, so start now.
Think about what life would be like without power, running water, sewer, etc. How would you get water, how would you use the bathroom, how would you dispose of waste?
saying the quiet parts out loud again....
That is exactly what those pieces of crap talked about
My family acquired two dogs once. Pups. Big pups, blue healer / bull mastiff mix. Two brothers. My sister and I got each for our own. My sister screwed up one day, and instead of pouring two different piles of dog food, she only poured one. Only 1 pup made it out of that situation alive. Killed his own brother over a pile of food. I know humans aren't dogs, but I do know this, don't get in between a hungry man and his food.
No idea why reading this I was reminded of the best grilled ham and cheese I ever ate. At my friend's grandparents house some years ago. Was made with thick slices of real cheese and ham and idk how but it was just so good
I feel this so much.. have. Dumbass friend complaing about gas prices and ends his complaint "its because of the Russian Ukraine war". Cheese, gas, it's all because of Biden and these fucksticks are so stupid it's PAINFUL. I'm glad the deli had some cheese. I cant find red enchilada sauce or fruity cheerios ANYWHERE. Every day I pray for the shit to hit the fan and the cleansing of these assholes to begin.
64% of this country lives paycheck to paycheck. You can be damn sure they are noticing the price increases and have been doing all they can to stretch their paychecks into more food - quantity over quality.
THEY TOOK YER
JOBCHEESE!Cheez, man. That's tough.
YOU’LL SAVE WAY MORE THAN
16 CENTS ON CHEESE….
WHEN ALL THAS LEFT IS ZEE BUGZ!
PASS ME
THE PARM-PIPE
I’LL HAVE WHAT HUNTER’S HAVING!
No need to justify your eating habits to us fren. But I do enjoy a good "told ya so" story.
Well you would be better with smoked Turkey lunch meat and some avocado anyway. No eggs at the Walmart here for a week now. The little local grocery store still has eggs though. Our next post will be everyone telling what all we put on our sandwiches back when we had bread.
The people that actually did vote for Biden knew exactly what they would get and it's THIS. Don't let them off the hook for a second.
I read that out-loud to my husband and we both kek’d out-loud congratulations
Time to upgrade your lunch!
My fren, soon these people will NEVER again admit what they have done.
For me it was cream cheese. Its back now. Check next week.
Try some fresh mozzarella on the sammich instead, goes great with ham, or perhaps a nice provolone
Have you read the story of how Velveeta is made?
I am scouring to find the story.
It's an account where someone's relative (uncle, maybe?) describes what they do with reject/bad cheese and how it ends with nothing of nutritional value.
I am too tired, but will look in the morning.
Try searching with Yandex. The other big search engines like Google and DDG now neutralise search terms and censor entire web domains.
I did. Yandex is my primary. Searched for an hour. And it was such a good story. If I don't find it, I'll summarize.
Been seeing shelves sparse or empty. Everything pulled to the front with no stock behind it. Some of the more noticeable were coffee, dog food, cat food, shampoo, some dairy. But every week something else is missing. It’s weird. My brother noticed too about the cat food and saw cans of tuna in that isle.