Here is the thread I found this on https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/378598168
What a coincidence. This man built a engine that ran on water and he happened to get killed in the Buffalo shooting. Here is proof of his engine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAFQdYYXyls
It's entirely possible this was a conspiracy murder by the oil companies to assassinate the inventor that would make their product obsolete and bankrupt them, disguised as a white supremacist attack. A similar thing happened to Stanley Myer, the feds poisoned him because he made a car run on water.
A few weeks ago I discovered this video https://youtu.be/1xHQWu2ZzPc A man put a lawnmower carburetor on his old car that had a V8 in it and got 45mpg after tuning it. I wonder if the feds will come after this guy too. He has not made a video in weeks.
Video is from 2015 7 years ago
It is a ridiculous theory that he was killed because of this.
It was pretty cool what he did, but you have to use energy to pull hydrogen away from the oxygen in the water, which comes from putting in electrical power.
Nothing is free.
Technology has existed since at least 1978. Kek.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjfONpsFvyM
I dated a girl whose family was able to basically run all their vehicles on hose water. Her dad retrofitted a bunch of their older vehicles. Didn’t believe it til I saw her actually fill her tank and start her old Raider. Her dad told me not to go talking about it and I haven’t told a soul in a decade and a half.
I wonder if a car could run on moonshine?
I had a great uncle who invented a listening device that could hear up to a mile away that he mounted in the trees for the purpose of catching poachers on his land. He invented alot of different things including building a backyard diorama model of the space city exhibit he put in the (I think 1961) World fair in Seattle. The government got word somehow of his listening device and confiscated it, saying a civilian wasn’t allowed to have that high tech of technology.
Mythbusters episode. You can, but it has too be a 'flexfuel' type of newer vehicle that can handle high-ethanol content, or else it'll stall the engine.
You can do a 50/50 mix no problem
Or an older one because they all ran on ethanol before Rockerfeller backed Prohibition.
Dammit, I told you not to tell anyone. Never sharing my secrets with you again.
Eh, plenty more secrets I could share but we’re in polite company.
My PMs are open and operators are standing by. =)
We’ll, you’re lucky I’m too stupid to figure out how to PM.
Shit, now that you mention it, so am I.
Welp, missed opportunity.
Yamaha raider?
I have a styrker :)
Those are cool but this was a ‘89 Dodge. I made fun of her for it back then but it was actually pretty cool.
Exactly this
I was agreeing that yes, it will work, but it requires energy to do so. Nothing is free.
He is saying that the first law of thermodynamics says you don’t get something for nothing; the second law states it ain’t even that good...
You're fighting the old system yet think they taught you the right physics and chemistry? LOL !!!! Better not question your masters BRO !!!!
Some of us have also done the experiments ourselves and validated that the models in the 1990's textbooks are accurate enough to rely on for day-to-day engineering.
Three laws of thermodynamics.
1 You can't win.
2 You can't break even.
3 You can't leave the game.
I got a 55 gallon tank of methanol for 40$ about 6 years ago. Running a mix of gasoline and methanol injection I can pull 90+mpg on highway speeds (65-75mph cruise control). Blew up a couple engines while fine tuning the ECU and testing, ultimately came to the realization that it's a great application for a daily driver, but not a high compression engine or sports car. You only need to fill up on gasoline a handful of times per year, depending on your driving characteristics. Bonus from all this was you can spit flames out of your rear pipe, great for tailgaters.
was this person somehow connected to the POLYSCIENCE project nys worked on in buffalo alot folks around that cuomostenchhochul project drop like flies
Good post, comment and question.
Where DID he learn the details on creating a functioning hydrogen fuel cell with water conversion?
One of the new techs that will help change the world.
It's not a fuel cell (which produces electricity). He was cracking water into its components, presumably using alternating current at a particular frequency resonant with water, or perhaps a pair of frequencies to address the asymmetric rotor property of water molecules. Maybe there is a catalyst involved? I obviously do not know the secret but it will be something like that.
In theory this is an extremely simple and reliable process, once you have the right energy level and frequencies dialled in, and catalyst coated electrodes perhaps... The water would simply begin gassing-off oxygen and hydrogen, which can be immediately burned.
Normally of course, to crack water with brute force energy, you would be using more energy than you could recover by then recombining them in an exothermic reaction (combustion). Low energy cracking water is the holy grail, conventionally this is impossible, but with resonance, maybe maybe it could be done.
Right, get your perpetual motion machine right here.
Getting more energy out of water than you have to put into crack it?
Entropy has been canceled. Mark this day.
Side thought - I've always wondered if Life reverses entropy. Takes energy and molecular components to bring more order from disorder. Think of how plants grow.
Life reduces entropy locally at the cost of increasing it overall faster.
Plants grow on the energy from the sun. It only temporarily slows entropy.
It's like water going downhill. You can use a dam to extract some useful energy, but all the water still ends up at the bottom of the hill. And whatever you created with that trapped energy is subject to entropy too.
However, there are clues that there is funky quantum stuff involved with life, so all bets are off as to what is really going on.
I have thought that too. You could almost define a living organism as one which reverses the second law and creates its own order
no, because every living thing must consume to survive. In your example, plants take nutrients that come from decaying bio material in the soil. Life temporarily resists entropy.
One method of producing hydrogen without electrolysis is to react water with aluminum. The problem is that aluminum forms a passivation layer of an oxide, similar to rust, but it stays on the surface and stops aluminum underneath that passivation layer from reacting.
One method of stopping that passivation layer from being created is to make an alloy of gallium and aluminum. Aluminum reacts with water and gets used up, but most of your gallium drops out and can be reused. You are essentially burning aluminum in water and burning hydrogen in the tank.
I don't know the economics of a setup large enough to run a car or how many cycles you can run before needing more gallium, but it is a new and different idea than I have seen in the past.
Still, how much energy to purify aluminum? There is a lot of energy stored in pure aluminum. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium%E2%80%93air_battery
If they could get it to work, it'd be safer than lithium or gallium. But these are battery techniques, not fuel.
"They" can worry about pure aluminum. I would build something that uses aluminum in whatever form I can get my hands on easily.
Yes I've seen this lauded as a wondrous method, but of course aluminium is an energy intensive metal to produce... so its net negative. Maybe for recycling it, but you'd be better off just making ingots for remanufacture and forgoing the creation of virgin aluminium, thereby saving energy.
If I were to try it i would use the gallium I bought years ago from ebay or Amazon and use whatever aluminum I could find as scrap. It is everywhere in our world.
Get your red herring right here.
All perpetual motion machine red herrings aside, the hydrogen fuel cell is 'a thing'. And so is the Hendershot Generator if you'd care to watch it being built and demonstrated in various examples on Youtube.
Bringing up the "Perpetual motion machine' argument where it doesn't belong, is the scientific version of 'conspiracy theorist' in discussions of energy conversion.
Q mentions how 'new' tech will be finally brought out to aid in recovery.
Mark this day.
Hydrogen fuel cells have been a thing since the 60s. I built one as a science project using bits & pieces kindly donated by John Deere researchers. That is, if you are referring to the cells that catalyze H2 and O2 into water and directly generate electricity.
Henderson generator is not related to engines running on water/hydrogen, except as a possible source for power to separate the water to H2 and 02.
If Henderson generators work, just plug them to an electric motor, it's a more efficient transmission of energy than burning H2 and 02 in a combustion engine.
Energy conversion is subject to entropy, thus perpetual motion discussion is relevant. Hiding the power source by talking about "running on water" is carnival level distraction.
Exactly. The jet turbine engine is over unity as well. They tell us in every movie. "We're running on fumes up here!" Yes, yes they are.
The second law is the most amoral, pessimistic formulation in the history of human thought. It's expressed in english, not math. That should be the first tip.
Is this what they're doing in 'nuclear' power plants maybe?
Water such a cool molecule. Pull its elements apart and you get fire. Put them together and you get water. It wouldn’t surprise me if there was some easy conversion method right under our noses.
If anyone does figure this out again, they should make sure to release a video showing how anyone can build one ont heir own and release it everywhere. This is the only way to keep a tech like this alive and bring it to the light.
Tbis us the 3rd story I have seen where someone made a system for a car to run on water and ended up dead.
In fact, everyone who tries for a pattent with this ends up dead.
Yep, it has been done multiple times before. Same thing with getting cars to run on fumes and get over 100mpg, it has been done multiple times by different people and something always happens to them, they just disappear.
Because people prove them as frauds.
nope they usually turn up dead which is when you know they were really on to something :)
Stanley Meyer's patents have expired. Anybody who wants to can use them to turn their car into a perpetual motion machine that runs on water if it really works.
Vaporization of fuel isn't fraud, it's actually viable tech and is in use, especially on farms..
It is.
What is also fraud is your education.
See, the people that call it fraud, self-educated, instead of being indoctrinated.
He is NOT breaking the law of thermodynamics. So he is NOT getting out more energy than put in. So there is absolutely no point in doing this... just hook the damn vehicle up to whatever you split the water with, ffs.
You need energy to separate water.
260 kJ per mole of water, ~5 eV per molecule of water
I am sorry you did not pay attention when people were trying to educate you.
Why did I bring up the water first? Because that was the topic.
Now, onto fumes.
Your "claim" about fumes powering things shows a COMPLETE LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A VOLATILE FUEL IS!
Go look it up.
Patents and practical applications, you condescending fuck.
https://svpwiki.com/Fuel-Vaporization
Any disrupting technology will be viciously suppressed by those defending the status quo. Don't be surprised by this. I know someone who got his hydrogen generation kit confiscated by the feds and it wasn't even next gen tech.
He simply used a photo electric cell to split water into hydrogen and oxygen and then stored the hydrogen for use in a slightly modified internal combustion engine. You never need to go to the gas station with his device and that's why they stopped him.
There's the Hydrogen House Project that is plenty proof of the concept you're talking about.
Got it.
Because Ether you get it or you don't.
That said, vaporization of water isn't possible because then it isn't water.
Modern science is confused as to what all 'states' of any substance actually is, attempting to hold it's prior state as static. Ice becomes water becomes mist. Three words, three states, one substance.
"Education" : Everybody dry humping with no offspring produced.
Here's a shortcut around 'education' as to 'states of substance':
Energy Generators & Free Energy
Youtube
by Theoria Apophasis
Then Trump needs to do it. Let's see them get him.
Engineers did this years ago cars that would run out of water alcohol peanut oil..
here:
Stanley Meyer But we can all rest assured that in all these years he never forgot the case of Stanley Meyer, the inventor of the water-powered car who, in 1998, got up from a table at a restaurant to run into a car park, some say just to leave us a message: “they poisoned me, and it's because of what I'm doing to revolutionize....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer's_water_fuel_cell
Breaking News!!!
Hillary Clinton invents a new engine that runs entirely on WATER. No gasoline or oil needed. The engine gets 200 mph on simple tap water.
There... now see if the oil industry bumps HER off too.
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Creative... I like it.. ;-)
It doesn't "run on water" it runs on massive amounts of electricity to generate HHO. It's not efficient.
You realize that a car that runs exclusively on water would be a perpetual motion machine, right?
when you fire a gun in a way you get more energy out then what you put into it with your trigger finger. Your finger unlocks more energy present in the system. It's the same with the water to hydrogen thing. If you do regular electrolysis then yes you don't get more energy out of the water than the electricity you put in, but if like stanley meyers etc you pulse the electricity in a certain way then you crack open the water and release the hydrogen hidden in the system with very little energy input just like pulling the trigger on a gun.
Again, that's a perpetual motion machine. Because the way you get energy from the hydrogen you've released from the water is by burning it with oxygen you've released from the water to make... water.
No it wouldn't, completely different.
Well let's see... Split water to make hydrogen and oxygen. Burn hydrogen and oxygen to power the car resulting in water exhaust. Condense the water to use as fuel.
Yep. Perpetual motion with no energy source.
The 45mpg on a lawn mower carb has to be bullshit. The others I can’t comment on. An internal combustion engine needs a specific fuel air ratio, the amount of air going through that engine requires a lot of fuel.
I used to rebuild and size holley carbs many moons ago. So many people over fuel their engines.
It's not bullshit, the guy literally shows his contraption and drives down the road at 75mph. Here is the video https://youtu.be/1xHQWu2ZzPc
and here is another one https://youtu.be/FwhMz2kR4pw
YouTube has lots of fake shit.
The physics don’t add up.
They put Stan Meyer in a mental home and no visitors. The last I heard he had lost all his teeth and on so much meds he can't even talk. He may have died by nor. He was on coast to coast several times. In Hanford CA, they taught how to use Meyer's invention on a lawnmower in shop classes. When he was on his way to demonstrate his device in the state the epa threatened to arrest him if he did. He said great because all the news said they were going to be there, they left him alone that time.
The process
This is the one with the meat and potatoes. if you watch through the whole series its pretty convincing.
He didn't just slap a carb on and call it a day. He designed an intake plenum, and valve to add or pull air.
The valve
He isn't just a rando redneck under a tree, he went to school for engineering.
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Supersonic transducers can be used for the vaporization of fuel... The same tech you find in a essential oil diffuser.
Edit: Yes, give me your down votes, dumb fucks.
https://svpwiki.com/Fuel-Vaporization
https://www.bjultrasonic.com/category/ultrasonic-transducer/
Not only the oil companies but stop the green agenda in its tracks!
So, there was a reason why he drove miles to THAT specific store huh. Not sure I would be pointing a finger at "Oil companies" though, who else wants us all to be dependent on them and them alone, seems they are trying to abolish the "Oil companies". heh.
On of my fav research topics.
So the Patent Office feeds everything through the NSA Lee the National Security Act of 1947 ( they get to see “is this bad for national security” ).
Now in 1947 the wording was hardly our standard along the pretense that folks in 1946 had more integrity than the morally bankrupt today. This “National Security” was perverted and an IMMENSE suppression of technology has taken place.
What does IMMENSE equate to? Over 3,000+ Confiscated patents annually since 1950. Each seemed to be “Disruptive to Society.”
Example? This bastard. Michael DeBakey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_DeBakey
He invented a Heart Pump for Transplants. Now he worked with a younger doctor named Maynard Freeman who developed a cheaper, less prone to rejection / infection, permanent mechanical heart that is now being stolen ( one powers Sick Dick Cheney ).
Anyway DeBakey has the IRS / FBI / Medical Board / etc all harass Freeman. Down to the point he was forced out of his own Medical Practice and more.
Anyway Freeman ends up found dead by his wife in kid in their garage - red scarf, clothes all folded perfectly across the room, naked, scarf tied to a door knob.
The NSA is gatekeeping. Take Tesla. Nikolai Tesla himself. The silly story is he lived at the fanciest hotel in NYC for a long ass time with others like Westinghouse laying his rent. No. He had access to a lab and was working for Uncle Sam the whole time. God knows what he cranked out
I can go on and on.
Disruptive tech is nuts. If you go back to the 1970s we had a fuel crisis and countless news articles around the country of people coming up with more efficient carburetors for cars, filing for patents, and dying.
Always reminds me of That 70's Show:
Steven Hyde
That is a crazy coincidence, but it would not surprise me that there is all sorts of tech that could make life better for everyone that has been suppressed.
I did watch that video with the lawnmower carb was interesting to watch, i did wonder if it was recreating the supposed vapor carb effect that so many others said worked but until i try it for myself i will not know.
I have to look later, but somewhere on one of my old computers I have the plans to make Meyer's device, he made the plans open source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M0W7P7-AdQ
Another interview. Great post, thanks for this!
No he didn't.
no, please don't fall for this stuff.. it always takes more energy to separate the hydrogen and oxygen from the water, than you get from burning the hydrogen to run the engine., this is an extremely inefficient process. you are better off just running an electric car, and skipping the extremely inefficient electrolysis process.. this is an OLD and well traveled road, filled with self deluded people, and along with outright fraudsters, who have bilked people out of millions. . no feds or oil companies are "out to get them"
Same story every time. These guys (ie. Stan Meyer) think they are going to get a patent and change the world. Fools. I have said this and said this in that community. If you want to make this work and spread it, open source everything no matter what. Although in saying that there was a guy in India or Pakistan that had some really promising tech and he was sharing and he still disappeared.
The moment the patent office is involved they will national security that shit and the military will shut it down.
If it works, open source it and spread it as far and wide as you can. You will change things and you will get to live. You won't get rich though. Well you could get rich from all the people that don't want to DIY...
This guy turned his engine to run on ammonia at 25 cents/liter
https://rumble.com/v1104jn-canadian-entrepreneur-running-his-pickup-truck-on-fuel-that-costs-25l.html
Last sentence in the description of the video:
"However Arron discovers in this video there is no electrolysis occurring and the truck still runs..Amazing"
Sounds like he got caught bullshitting.
That said, I do think this is technically feasible. Wouldn't be filling up with plain water though.. I think it needs something like baking soda in order to have electrolysis.
Hmm
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The YouTube video comments have me in tears
For my 5th grade science project I built a hydrolysis tank that created hydrogen bubbles. All it required was a small plexiglass tank, a steel plate, a battery, and electrodes.
Pulling hydrogen from the oxygen just requires a battery.
I got bored and did it during lockdown with the biggest old DC power supply I could find. Kept oxidizing and dissolving one of my electrodes! But the hydrogen balloons were fun.
Royal Rife had has cancer busting machine stolen and his life ruined in the 30s. Thats why i never donate to cancer charities. All a con.
Built not invented. Big dif
Doubtful it was because he made a hho booster... Way too common and proven to require more power then it gives to the mpg even up to $17/gal
Fuck me.
I can't resist being a fake Doomer here. The door to comedy is open.
"The janitor next door built a cold fusion generator." -- Sketchy homeless dude
Did you put a thermometer in it? because you could have gone past 100 degrees at 25 seconds, and then a boil started at 110 gently. But if you were to shake it or drop a spoon into 110 degree water it would provide lots of sites for steam to form and you would have an explosion type reaction. It does work. You can do it with tea by accident.
This is going to be one of the of biggest black person conspiraces. It's got that Blankman underdog thing mixed with a big surprise and we all lose reality sucks hitting the wall tragic ending that you never forget and you tell everyone you know.
I am just going to put this article here of Paul Brown. A guy in idaho that made an engine that ran on nuclear waste. He died too, in a bit of a bizarre twist.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2114036/strange-life-and-stranger-death-paul-brown-case-another-smart-guy-doing-dumb-thing/
This is why I haven't gotten Solar. And I want a transporter!
Transporters are being experimented on but so far, last I looked, things were not going back together right.
Herd a guy let a fly get in and the results were horrific.
This has happened SO many times, the proof they don’t care about ‘climate’ unless they can monetize it.