This may be a bit memey, but it seems to me that the biggest weakness of q followers is so many of them think the "white hats"are some secret canal of patriots working from the inside to bring down the governmeant corruption, so all patriots have to do is sit back and let the "white hats" do all the work...
Besides being backward as all hell, this idea is antithetical to American values and First Principles. Simply put, the founders didn't sir around waiting for someone else to save then from British tyranny, they took up arms and secured their own freedom.
And that's what patriots across the loose coalition misidentified as "the right" are doing, securing elections, running for office, primarying weak, RINO candidates, getting the real news out there on sites like this, etc.
So you wanna meet a white hat for real? Go look in the mirror.
I know, I know, "maybe the real Q was inside us all along," meme goes here, but think about it a minute and tell me it doesn't make a little bit of sense.
Or maybe I'm contradicting the holy scriptures of your Lord and savior Q somehow, I dunno, lol. (Poking fun, not being malicious)
This is the impression someone has about Q when they look at it through memes or hit pieces (or reading on PW for that matter). The problem is, no one has ever been able to tell us what exactly they have been doing that we decided not to do because we "trust in white hats".
Only recently I have started to realise just how important our role is in this Great Awakening. In my own case, I have at least 8 people - family and friends - who would have been beyond depressed and given up if not for me providing them a glimpse of what might really be going on. Now multiply it by all the folks who understands or at least have a hazy idea of what the reality of the world is right now and why things are happening the way they are - and you will understand that just one aspect of Q was to stop mass depression.
Thats just one example.
Let me ask you this question now, to really drive home what the Plan is and why it had to be this way.
Lets say every patriot is united together and willing to do anything they can to defeat the Cabal and you are their leader. What would you tell them to do? Whom would you tell them to go after and bring down?
Would it be enough if we brought down all the corrupt politicians, judges, corporate executives, army generals, etc etc etc? Would that guarantee that we would be free?
The answer is - even if we did all that, it wont change one teeny tiny bit, because all these people are disposable assets. Puppets. It may set back the plans of the Cabal by a decade, probably not even, but these people have the patience to wait around for centuries. Its nothing for them.
Second problem is, we are all sitting in a train that has no brakes and has to keep accelerating, or else it would crash. I am talking about the central bank based financial system. It is the ultimate weapon that is being used to enslave us. You cannot just stop it (think of the movie Speed) and you cannot ignore it. If it crashes uncontrollably, Great Depression + two world wars would seem like a picnic.
Bit part of what Trump did and what is currently happening is a controlled demolition of the financial system in a way that does not destroy all of us. Everything else - disclosure, public indictments, tribunals - is timed to synchronise with this.
So the best thing you can do to help people today is to educate yourself about this, and learn how to decouple yourself from this crashing train and help not just yourself but also your family and friends to survive when the crash happens.
I would highly recommend watching Catherine Fitts Austin's vidoes where she explains the background of all this and how we go there very well. Personally, I think its the best way to start appreciating Q.
Luckily we have no scriptures and we all disagree with each other about every aspect of all this. Thats what makes this place so much more refreshing than most other places. I hope you continue hanging out.
GREAT comment, u/bubble_bursts.
Yeah, this is it. This has become more and more apparent to me.
When thinking of bringing down the Cabal, I always thought of the metaphor of disarming a nuclear bomb with about 10,000 switches and wires to be addressed. So highly complex, and it all has to go in the right way to avoid the explosion.
And that may have been correct in terms of disabling the cabal puppets and organizations, but the issue of the controlled demolition of the financial system now makes massive sense. I guess I've learned and I've expanded my understanding.
We the People are the 'Storm': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h6gLgGQa8g
It is an interactive plan. Take action. Join the movie. Go for an Oscar. Make Reagan proud.
Freedom of speech. Freedom of religion. Freedom of Enterprise. We the People are Free!
Constitutional Rights violation Pro Se Federal Lawsuit template if that is your thing: https://greatawakening.win/p/15IrKq7RCT/repost-2a-federal-lawsuit-templa/
Great comment. I get sick of listening to patriot influencers like AJ, Bardsfm, along with many others attack Q using the same argument as OP. They think all Q folks just are sitting on their hands waiting for the white knight to ride in and save the day. That's far from the truth, look at how many Q people are running for government positions around the country, and winning. Q folks are positioning themselves to make a difference all the way down to local levels of government.
People like OP are the same people pushing people to pull their kids out of school because the schools are broken and infiltrated with woke Nazi's as an example. Where as Q followers are over throwing school boards and making changes, there is nothing wrong with the schools they just need purging. There are still good teachers out there. Also you are hearing the same people who attack Q and the movement when it comes to voting, they say it's a waste of time because once again it's corrupt and broken. Well those Q followers along with others and attempting to fix that as well. You can go on and on but the last thing that is happening is Q followers sitting on their asses.
This is not a new "tactic": ermagerd! You guys are doing NOTHING! Q is a pacification operation hurdur
OP's post reeks of malcontent, as the research community has seen this very argument/tactic used many times against the Q phenomenon and by extension, anons and the greater truth movement. Hell, look no further than TMOR or QultHQ. They use aforementioned logic ad nauseam in an attempt to stimey pertinent discussion, research, and sully anon's own perspective of the Q plan.
If they are being genuine in their questioning of the Q plan and anon's action or inaction, then they have quite a snarky way with wording that is borderline a jab at anons and even worse, an underlying suggestion to "take up arms".... Literally quoted from OP's post.
Q i both a call to action and a voice of pacification.
put differently, it is a call to "right action".
it is the knowledge that taking up arms and indulging in vigilantism will only bring us into a losing scenario because it will create the division that is needed for the cabal's plans.
being the voice of reason and calm in a time when the cabal needs panic to keep people from thinking logically is an enormous front in this war.
I think OP was more or less playing devil's advocate. He seems to be more or less neutral but he does understand something here some don't; that its OUR duty (WWG1WGA) to keep conversation civil and put aside differences, to combine our ideas and keep the movement going. Knowing it or not, simply being informed even if you have personal bias is a weapon they will never take from you. You "knowing" is putting a LOT of pressure on the enemy. Do what you can, but make sure to not put others above or below you. Just do what you can; don't be idle if an opportunity to make change approaches you.
I agree but maybe it's to keep us on our toes to smash these folks shilling ? 😎
Dunno. It's another inoculation. This is for the newbies, not really for OG.
But I get something new and refined out of bb's comment, for example. The point is not to win the argument (that's a pointless endeavor). The point is to discuss, strengthen, refine and move forward organically.
I guess I don't have the chops to battle the shills over at T_D and TDW, much less 50 times a day. But if you do, then kudos.
If voting really was a waste of time then why is all the ballot fraud required?
You are so right. I also feel I'm not doing enough. Yet I participate in the school board, a member of local GOP, knocking on door for days for a Q candidate, sitting with the voting integrity group and helping there. Talking to family and friends about what is going on. Not afraid of what is happening. Trying to prepare as much as possible for the crash or whatever happens. Someone told me once that it's a sin to believe that Evil can defeat Good. I believe that and I am definitely wearing my armor.
And for those who dont know, she was in the belly of the beast and then the beast turned against her and she fought back for almost 10 years. No higher pedigree than that to be spilling beans.
Big yes here.
Agree, great comment. Like to add: really smart to cut off their money supply before any overt actions take place. Although movement appears slow in the USA, must realize this is global event and plenty is happening overseas.
Interesting.....
Why is either or.
When you study Q 's posts you'll find time and again it encourages to get involved and take the country back.
The necessary precondition is to think for yourself and trust yourself.
I think the writer is challenging many on here. Many are not doing what you describe. There is plenty of "White hats" action behind the scenes .... What about us? We could be White hats too. We are one in the same. Right?
Yes of course. It all depends on what you want to do.
There are many level on which one could engage with the body politic. Some will focus on schools, others on local government, or county and state.
It is a long march along the institutions. And of course, there is the civil service, judge, sheriff, commissioner positions.
Oust the bad apples.
Wrong. The correct expression is "one and the same".
Correct. Indeed the expression is like that. .... Although .... when you think about it ...... from a certain point of view, we are indeed: One in the Same. :-)
Not everyone has the means to run for office and there likely aren't enough offices even for all of us. Some of us have to be the "radioman" who disseminates the truth to any willing to listen. Some of us have to curate and distribute the memes even if we don't create them ourselves. Steve Bannon said similarly in this clip, not all of us are going to be on the front line of the most critical battles, many of us are the much needed support staff.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15IrPWmxhx/now-is-the-age-of-engagement-wer/c/
These people would not have done anything even if they didnt think Q plan is real. Its not the Q that stops them, its the laziness, kek
Which quite possibly the OP has not. "United We Stand" appears repeatedly and clearly means We, the People. The sit back & wait for others to do something spin is entirely a construct of the left on DPW.
/like Qanon
I had almost this exact conversation yesterday, or one very similar!
I explained to my friend (who incidentally knew something surrounding the whole Covid19 was not right before we had talked about it) that there is no real way of explaining the whole topic surrounding Q you had to be there at or near the start. A bit like a fashion or a time before, if you weren't part of it, the conversations or researching as it went along, it is incredibly difficult to articulate it to someone reasonably new. You can try, but everything from the use of language, topics covered, incidents that happened all tie in together albeit sometimes in a looser way other times it can't be discounted by coincidence.
He said "so what's all this QAnon thing then". I literally had to go over the history of 4 chan, 8 chan then 8 Kun, pointing out how they referred to each other as anons. The Q drops with the trip codes and salt rotations, the anonymous way image boards work, the timings in with Trump's tweets and much more.
Once he understood that I could then explain that this whole "QAnon" was just a made up construct by the media, because again none of them were there at the time living it every day. So they needed a label, hence QAnon. It's why the so called QAnon Shaman is a laughable character which was invented. There are no leaders, sure many look up to Trump but again as I explained to the friend Trump was asked to do the job, he's even said "I had a nice life, I never needed to do it, but I wanted to help save my country"
No multi billionaire would go through what Trump and his family went through unless they were asked, not a chance. So as I explained to him, I'm not blindly following Trump because I see him as a living deity, it's because I know there's something or some people driving all of this. I believe humanity would fight back.
2016 was the turning point, Hilary honestly never thought she would lose! And ever since who ever or what ever was behind that have been slowly dismantling the evil working all over the world.
It seems (at least feels) to me that everything has been accelerated, and their plan to bring in a one world Government treating us like cattle, is being or has been destroyed! Personally I think many of us who have been around from near the start are here to not only try and wake others up but also to help explain to anyone with an open mind what else might be going on. Slowly over time the world's population is in fact waking up, it's slow but will accelerate. Only last night on a fairly mainstream news channel they were openly discussing how the jabs are clearly not working, and people are being hurt by the coerced jabs! And no I don't think we can go through all of this without sadly losing some people, there's no way around this fact.
There will be casualties, but this isn't simply about the USA, it's about the entire world, I fully expect us to get to a point where the threat of nuclear weapons or a dirty bomb could be used, the precipice imo. There will be a time when people turn, it will be violent, nasty, riots etc, but that won't last for long. How else can people help themselves if they are not woken up to the evil that's gone on in the world? I expect this Winter to be tough. People and countries will rise up, it has to be this way but controlled. Think of the Truckers in Canada, or now the farmers in Holland. Sri Lanka has already risen up against their Government.
Then again if I am wrong, well it'll likely be a blinding flash followed by a storm force wind and heat blast as my body and soul turns into ashes on the floor! Hope I'm wrong.
I do it like Joe Masepoes (Joe M) did it years ago: Start with organized crime.
"You know that exists in the underworld, right? That they conspire in secret to commit crimes?" GET A YES to "Organized criminals do plan their activities in a dark, secret underworld" so you don't sound crazy.
Then: You know criminals exist in business at the top of the corporate and banking structure, yes? No surprise there? [Get a yes]
Then: Well, criminals have also organized themselves at the top of science, medicine, and governments, and unified under banners like UN, WEF, WHO, IMF, and World Bank.
They even have literal mad scientists, like Anthony Fauci. The goal is the same as it's been for centuries: depopulation + world domination.
So the good news is, a group of American patriots is going about putting a stop to it, also in the background so as not to alarm the public...everything will be OK. That's why Trump won the election against Clinton, when everything was set up for her.
It's why we saw so many resignations and firings of top deepstate personnel during Trump's first term. It's why Trump was so viciously attacked from the moment of his announcement of running for president.
Everything fits into place when you realize it's good guys vs. organized criminals. The good guys are winning, even though right now it may not look like it.
Like when the NFL football team called the Patriots (!) were "losing" 28-3 at halftime and came back to win Super Bowl 51 as hundreds of millions of people worldwide watched on TV. The Patriots were in the process of winning the game, even when it looked like they weren't.
This group of military patriots has captured incriminating evidence of hundreds of govt officials and others committing treason and crimes against humanity, because the criminals had their cell phones with them at the time. Game over.
It takes time; like the football game, we still have to watch the second half. But it's game over. Nothing to do now but watch it play out. Pass the popcorn please! Enjoy the show.
Excellent explanation.
THE BEST explanation i have ever read! Great analogy to Superbowl...good work!
Thanks for that, I had indeed forgot about Joe M and his thoughts, and yes once people agree to the corruption within organisations it then isn't a stretch to see how corruption is everywhere along with pure evil!
Comfy A/F anon.
This is a great red pill strategy, and one I will adopt!
I will add one more thing that has been relevant to my friends.
When they ask something like “so what about [Joe Biden], what’s in it for him to do all this?”
(Replace Joe Biden with AOC, Obama, Mitt Romney, or whatever name they may ask about)
My Response: “Money and power, of course. For some, it’s people with a myopic view of wealth that want to horde it for their family, for others it’s the ability to get away with behaviors they only could if in power, like sexual abuse”.
Skeptically, the reply is usually “so Joe Biden, who’s already rich, is coordinating with a cabal of evil people just to stay rich and in power?”
My response: “Here’s a question: Do you think some people, even young children, will tell small white lies to get themselves out of trouble, or to get something they might want?”
(They reply yes, of course)
“Right, it’s human nature. Many of us learn that one little lie soon requires a bigger lie to cover up the first lie, and then more lies, and before you know it, you’ve lied yourself into a corner and it makes that cookie that you snuck seem not worth it, or that blaming something on your little sister got her in trouble, or whatever, and you learn not to lie like that”
“Well, for some people, they don’t learn that lesson, or they learn it too late in life. If you lie as a kid who stole a cookie, you won’t go to jail. But if you’re an adult and you did something wrong or told a white lie to help you get something you wanted, then you might go to jail. So you lie, to cover it up. That leads to more lies that get bigger and bigger, and eventually you seek other people who are also lying, and you help each other lie so you can keep covering up your previous lies. The more you lie, the higher the stakes becomes, and the more you’d be willing to do to cover them up”
That helps them realize that even a seemingly “nice” person like Joe Biden [1] can get caught in a series of lies that would lead them into a cabal of coverups and deception.
And of course, these people are NOT nice, and many of them are simply very bad people, but normies don’t accept that of people they once looked up to. You have to humanize their evil, if that makes sense.
Excellent synopsis and summarization u/Scorpion76
Truer words have not been said about how difficult it is to explain the Q phenomenon from the inside out. Unless you were on this wild ride the whole time, it's rather difficult for those absent to grasp the plethora of Q drop coincidences, deltas, early news cycle interpretations, breads, buns, bakes, moves, counter moves, comms.... It's a lot to digest and hard to recollect for most people. Hell, just look how pertinent things are memory holed, let alone seemingly innoculous happenings that (at the time) only anons were picking up on (e.g. NK revelations pre public 45 & Kim meetings).
Also, fucking spot on about that asshat shammy! I've always viewed this fool as a tool of the DS/MSM to paint a ridiculous characture of anons as something for the normie audience to connect back and associate us with. Basically, putting a face to all of our faceless names.
Thanks for the feedback fren, I dunno if I am right, but I freaking hope so lulz.
Nice commentary.
Just two points... First, while your body will most assuredly turn to ash in a heat blast, your soul will not. You're safe there. ;)
Second, I'm one of those people you describe who was not in this from the beginning, found GAW-Q at the tail end of 2020. To that point, can you give me a general idea of what "salt rotation" connotes?
Yes I also hope my soul survives and should have worded that different.
Hmmm think of it as part of the randomisation and tripcode procedure of posting on 4/8chan. Someone else may be able to get in to the technical element better than I. Regards.
Salt Rotation - There is a computer language "Equation" that will encode/decode your password using a random number. That number is the Salt (or Seed).
You are Salting the equation with a number. It could also be called "Seeding" and equation. A given password will yield access and also give a TripCode. A TripCode is literally a visible UserID that proves the writer knew the right password.
Rotating the Salt, gives a new starting point for the equation, and will end with a new TripCode for the old password.
8Kun experienced this. Someone rotated the salt (or easier yet, the equation) until it yielded the known Q TripCode. They left a few Q-crumbs which did not look right. Then Anons figured out that the Salt had been rotated because other people's TripCodes had changed, yet the Q TripCode did not change. Then it got changed back to the original Salt. Other TripCodes returned to normal and there were no more Q-crumbs.
It was a sham. Most Anons did not fall for the ploy, although a few did. The Zero-Delta proofs were backwards. First Trump, then "Q". Not valid. Should be first Q, then Trump within a minute.
And the Q post should have a TripCode. Q's TripCode. The Zero-Deltas that did match Trump posts had no TripCode. Not valid. Then the Fake Q cried like a baby, insisting that it was illegal to use a TripCode. That's why the new drops had no trip code. Very lame. Never saw Q cry like a baby trying to prove identity. It was really sad and noticeable.
Therefore, the recent Q-posts are all faked at worst, extremely suspect at best. Hope that helps.
Okay, so a poser ran some kind of algorithm/program which rotated the salt/seed to produce a new TripCode and kept doing so until it showed as the old/valid TripCode, albeit leaving some issues/problems in it's wake. The hyper-cognizant (in a good way) anons who pay keen attention to such things noticed the anomalies and called the fake-Q out on it. Said fake-Q tried doubling down on the fraud using lame excuses, but anons weren't buying it. (Mine may be more of an analogy than a translation, but I think I get the gist).
Thank you so much for the explanation.
A year-and-a-half in and there are still loads of things I'm unclear on or plain unaware of.
Yes. Good summary. That is exactly what happened.
Of note: It would be easier to rewrite the algo to produce the result than to try new salts.
Of course, this would require the poser had root access to the underlying server. (Entirely possible.) Which would point the finger at Jim Watkins or some tech at the Hosting Service.
Lol yep always a big giveaway that, I have never seen anything written about QAnon being a thing nor any leader, if anyone thinks that then indeed go back to Reddit or MM like you said ghost. True dat.
trump strikes me as the type who does things because he wants to, and being not just president, but the greatest president in history up to this point, would be the cherry on top of the sundae that is his business and reality TV history... I think he has good intentions, but he also has an ego. I don't worship him either, though the God Emperor joke is fun to make, lol.
You might as well embrace the name. You're stuck with it anyway. =P I avoid using it out of respect, but you're never gonna get rid of it at this point.
maybe put a forward slash in there if it helps? "Q/anon" or something like that.
The best attitude to have, and this may be "controversial" is to assume Q doesn't exist and act accordingly. We can't put all our eggs in one basket and the sooner we take on personal responsibility, the better. Even if a plan is being executed, we need people thereafter who will act on their own initiative and are independent both in their thoughts & actions so we can make sure we hold each other to high standards and don't become complacent again.
Actually, knowing Q exists and the plan is real and we will win is what drives a lot of people to get involved in politics when they had been apathetic all these years thinking whatever they do would be futile in a rigged system.
Some find motivation. Others find an excuse for complacency.
I rationalize it like this: Q simply is or isn't. Belief doesn't impact Qs existence one way or the other. I need to be living my best life and doing what I can to make a difference- help make things better regardless.
The only way to live our best lives is to better understand Reality, and Q is one of the fundamental teachers of how to uncover the truth and see the Reality by using critical thinking and understanding current context.
This is exactly why my husband ran for mayor of our little tiny town. It may not seem like much but it's something.
Its actually a lot. Taking part in any kind of local governance is very applaudable.
I agree, and I'm very proud of him for taking it on!
I'm not so sure. If we act as if Q doesn't exist, the future is in grave danger and we all need to abandon our ordinary routines (day jobs, paying our bills, engaging in trivial outings, etc) immediately. If you believe, however, that patriots are in control, you should go about your business without fear of what may happen tomorrow.
Frankly, I believe people are too soft, ignorant, and exploitable to survive a scenario where Q doesn't exist.
This.
You've got a lot of research to do. I suggest going back and reading ALL the Q posts, from start to finish.
Btw, there is only 1 Lord and Saviour, and his name isn't "Q."
Sorry I didn;t make it clear, the "lord and savior" bit was a joke. I was poking fun at the similarities with religious discussions and some of the discussions of Q I've seen on this board, lol. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously ^ ^;
Easy there. OP is just attempting to use humor, not tear down a religious belief.
Chill.
and failing.
Hard disagree. I found it funny.
One of the biggest turn offs towards Christianity are the giant sticks you shove up your asses. Was one of the MANY reasons I stopped participating in the religious nonsense.
🤨 Honestly, everytime this part of the conversation comes up, you're the guy who comes off like you got the biggest stick up your ass.
Look out, you're going to catch the monkeypox, bro.
Hard to disagree.
And what is your evidence for this claim?
Q is an Awakening program. It is meant to teach people to start thinking for themselves. You are meant to do research and ultimately find out why the people that run this world are into the shit they are into. Learn about what the all-seeing eye represents and open yours. When we drop our fear programming and heal ourselves we will see this world for what it is and actively participate in changing it.
Way too many people stop looking into things and doing research. They are waiting around for a savior and do not realize we have all the tools to save ourselves.
Learn the occult knowledge. Occult just means hidden. There is a reason they keep this knowledge hidden.
That being said I do believe there is a group behind the scenes dismantling the "cabal" but they need us. WE will determine which direction our future takes. WWG1WGA
The only Savior I'm waiting for is Yahusha HaMashiach, and I do not know the time or hour of His return.
"his return"
UNCONDITIONAL LOVE is what saves you. Call it what you want but it is not a man. It is a state of BEING.
It returns when YOU allow it.
Unconditional love from Yahusha HaMashiach is what saves us, but only if we choose to repent of our sins and be washed with His blood.
1 John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
God is love.
Hebrews 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.
God is also a consuming fire.
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Keep looking into the occult for answers, but don't say you haven't been warned. In fact, I believe you need some fear reprogramming.
Revelation 14:7
Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
If you deny the existence of the Creator and worship yourself as a god, believing you can save yourself, there is no hope for you. That is the very lie of the serpent.
Unconditional Love is what saves you. There is no "but".
YOU need to embody unconditional love. You need to forgive yourself and others.
"Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."
Then and only then will you find peace.
If you're not keeping the ten commandments, and confessing your sins when you violate them because you're still an imperfect human, you're not embodying unconditional love.
There will only be peace on this planet if everybody follows the ten commandments, and that's why there will never be peace on this planet until the second coming.
My only hope is Yahusha HaMashiach being both my judge and my defense attorney. If he's not my defense attorney, I'm in big trouble on judgment day if I'm not blessed enough to be part of the first resurrection.
What our friend the Bass u/10lbsBass fails to grasp (and this is a point of deceit that is often laid before the intoxicated-with-my-own-potential-and-power folk), is the the potential to practice true unconditional love is only unlocked via a relationship with Christ.
Salvation is not the end game here. Salvation simply means being moved from the condition of being under Satan's jurisdiction to being under God's jurisdiction. Beyond salvation, we must grow into a perfect unity with Christ, in order to fulfill the potential God created in us, BUT, that is only possible on the basis of being removed from the satanic dominion.
Adam and Eve lost the condition of belonging wholly to God, by accepting the devil's lie and engaging with the devil. They lost it for both themselves and all their descendants. Thus, we need to be restored to a place where we belong wholly and solely to God. This is why we need Christ. Because that condition was lost both spiritually, and also physically, Christ must come both spiritually and physically. (aka must be an actual, living man).
To save someone is to rescue them. To save a drowning person is to remove them from the conditions where they can and are drowning, in the water, to dry land, where the danger no longer exists.
Because Adam and Eve (and therefore their descendants, by inheritance) fell via the condition of believing in and uniting with the devil, that can only be reversed when we ourselves believe in Christ and unite with him.
However, that is like being removed from a toxic realm, to a normal, non-toxic realm. That is salvation. What we do after that is important. Only after being saved can we access the full potential we have to grow our hearts and our capacity to love, from an immature state to a fully mature state, in which we truly unite with Christ and his love becomes our love, even as Jesus love is the Father's love.
No one has been able to unlock that potential fully, because our flesh remains under the devil's jurisdiction, even though our spirits and our hearts are freed from the devil's claim through our faith in Jesus. This claim over our flesh will be removed at the Second Coming, and, in my view, is the reason for the Second Coming: to liquidate the condition and claim the devil has over our flesh.
Because the Angel was able to develop a certain level of heart and ability before falling to become Satan, the illusion of capacity to love can be experienced by those who have not accepted Christ fully (cf: "angel of light"). Also, because of the benefit of centuries of faithful believing in and uniting with Christ, and therefore growing their hearts and capacity to love God and love others, the general spiritual atmosphere has risen immeasurably, compared with say, 2000 years ago when Christ came. Therefore, even people who do not believe in Christ are able to 'feel' the experience of love to a great extent. The faithful breath out so much spiritual oxygen (love) that even the non-faithful can feel it, to some extent.
But access to the full potential in our hearts is only unlocked through a relationship with Christ. We cannot save ourselves, because by inheritance, we lost that capacity. We fell into the water, and with no ship around, we will eventually drown.
The grace of God is that he sends us Christ, and opens the way for us to make a choice that is the reverse of the choice of Adam and Eve. By that act of our own volition (aka choice, aka free will), we access grace that is waiting for us, if and when we choose.
When we do, we are reborn through Christ, meaning we shift our lineage from that of Lucifer, via Adam and Eve, into God's true lineage, via Christ. This is why we are 'adopted'. Because Adam and Eve's lineage fell to become the devil's, not God's. Instead of being solely God's, they fell so that the devil had a claim on them (and thru them, us) both over our spirit and over our flesh.
It takes effort and investment and deliberate choice to build the capacity to give and receive love; unconditional love, which Christ embodies, is both our destiny and our potential. But that potential is ONLY accessed via a relationship with Christ, and the potential for a relationship with Christ is only accessed via faith in Christ. Can you love someone if you do not believe in them?
The Bass is right: true peace only comes when you are fully able to love yourself and forgive yourself in the way that Jesus does, but that capacity CANNOT be unlocked by oneself.
Only by having a living realtionsihp with Christ and learning about true love through an actual relationship with Christ, can we unlock the capacity to fully understand and love ourselves, even as he loves us. This is because the claim the devil has over us is ONLY liquidated by our accepting and uniting with Christ. That's the only way to reverse the condition Adam set up when he embraced and united with the angel.
It is truly a deception to imagine one can do this without Christ, just as it is to imagine one can reach eternal life by uploading one's 'consciousness' to a mainframe, or to give birth to oneself by one's own volition. We are first and foremost OBJECT beings. We are created by another (the Father). We are conceived and born by our parents. We DO help to 'create' ourselves, by growing to maturity and developing our potential, by uniting with God's Word and acting and living accordingly, but we are only able to do that because we are created and given birth to in the first place.
For all these reasons, we should understand that indeed, we are saved through a man (Christ), the embodiment of God's own lineage, who comes as the one to restore and reverse what God's first son, Adam, did: the fall.
This is the logical, reasonable and empirical conclusion of what is revealed by God's word in the Scripture.
Cheers. (and if anything I've written here is mistaken or incorrect, that's on me).
EVERYTHING is Energy, Frequency, and Vibration. [Light]
You either resonate at a high vibration or a low vibration
Your emotions are vibrations [vibe]
Pure unconditional love is the highest vibration [God] [Christ]
Hate, Fear, and Shame are the lowest vibration [Devil] [Satan]
“My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe, there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.” - Nikola Tesla
You tune your brain by controlling your emotions. If you are hateful, fearful, or shameful you will RECIEVE hateful, fearful, shameful thoughts. Those thoughts will turn into actions. The same is true for Pure Unconditional Love.
This is EXTREMELY simple. There is no need to create a story of some guy coming back from the dead to save humanity.
Humanity fell from a high vibration into a state of fear and division. We are currently waking up and taking back control. We are currently seeing how we have been kept at a low vibration by evil people [cabal].
Meditate, quiet your mind, be good, Love everybody, forgive yourself for your past sins, and forgive others. By doing this you are in your words "having a living relationship with Christ"
STOP fighting the outside world. Do this and you will raise your vibration. When you vibrate at a high vibration it affects those around you and raises their vibration. Like if you have two tuning forks and you ring one the other one will start to ring just by being near it. When 8 Billion people start vibration at the same frequency [Unconditional Love] we will harmonize and CREATE Heaven on Earth.
Enjoy your wait. :)
If you believe you're on a higher level than others, you're an abomination.
Faith without works is dead. Stop waiting for Him to come back and try to make things as though He did.
EDIT: better yet, learn to love people and have patience as He did and does. Don't try to pretend to know what His Kingdom will be like... We've tried that many times and failed already... In fact focus on helping to restore the Constitution.
Who said I'm sitting here doing nothing? You're making all kinds of assumptions here.
Fair enough. Again, I'm an outsider to this, so take me with a grain of salt, lol.
ALso, I will poke fun from time to time. it's not malicious, just my way of bonding, lmao.
You are further along than most. :)
It would take 10 million Americans to storm DC, their big city local governments, the media companies, and the financiers like Blackrock and Vanguard to take out the trash for anything to actually change. Q has helped so Many of us come together. Q has given us hope that maybe there is a good cabal out there trying to take down and expose Evil. It's great we have these people on the inside helping us. Americans are still in the phase of "what do we do and how do we do it". We have been patient in hopes that the government anf military will do its job and take out the corruption like they should he doing. I feel if we have one more botched election like the last one. Not even Q will be able to hold the patriots back. We are still hoping that we don't have to resort to this, because we know what the implications are and how it would really change things, but the short term would be very deadly and difficult for all Americans to have to resort to this action. We are praying that a group of good guys within the government do their damn Jobs and end the corruption like they were put there to do.
Some very good observations.
I'm not advocating we storm DC (though it would be hilarious if ten million patriots walked into D.C. with signs reading "fuck the swamp" or similar, cleaned up all the trash, scrubbed the streets and just left...)
I'm saying light a fire under local politicians and leaders, get involved if you can, primary garbage candidates, etc...
I see your concerns but I challenge you to give me an example of how someone can be made more passive after discovering Q compared to before they knew about it.
The U.S. military are our true saviors. They are the ones giving their lives to physically dismantle the criminal networks and take down the elites.
1) Tell me why or how I could help with that, I can't, i'm not a trained soldier.
I can't think of Anyone that has been made more passive after finding Q.
The key point about the Q movement is that this information war is just as important as the physical war. I'm not a soldier but i can help spread information to wake up normies. The Anons on this forum can literally do a better job at journalism than CNN thanks to social media. Anyone today can make a well-edited professional video far better than MSM garbage. For example Mouthy Buddha.
Before Q, i was fast asleep wasting all my free time on video games. Now i spend hours a week researching and dropping red-pill memes.
And many anons here are involved with their local politics, and being election poll workers etc.
Again, i want an example of how a patriot can become worse and more passive as a result of waking up to Q.
well, I've responded to a few people in this thread on this, but I was thinking of all the "when are the white hats gonna do something posts that come up every so often, often getting upvoted even on the scored trending tab when I typed this up last night, lol.
Not trying to shit on anyone, by the way, just sharing my thoughts...
Ye fair enough, And your post was sincere and a very good question.
That's a good point, i sympathize with those anons, we've all been impatient before, especially when Biden got inaugurated, but that's all good know :)
But I guess just coz we're memeing about wanting something to happen, doesn't make us any less active, because at the end of the day, it really is only the military that can carry out these actions.
And also, i bet most anons here own guns, so we're all standing at the ready in case things don't pan out somehow.
I'm glad you made your post OP, and glad that it's stickied, and I don't mean to be negative towards your ideas, i just wanted to poke a stick at them. And i didn't think you were shitting on anyone at all. Enjoy a bonus meme
Good work anon.
Do these quotes suggest an active role on your behalf? —>
„Trust the plan“ If I would be involved in executing a plan, I should at least know what the freaking plan is.
„You are watching a movie“ When I watch a movie, I‘m passive, because the movie doesn‘t need me.
„Patriots in control“ I guess I‘m not a patriot then, because I don‘t control shit.
„Trust Sessions“ Ok, I just trust.
„Disinformation necessary“ That‘s a nice one, because how am I supposed to discern disinformation from true information both coming from the same source?
Ok now u have those thoughts. Put them aside for a second and ask yourself is there any other way to view these
You know what the plan is. Support elections, vote, change hearts & minds through memes, pray.
I think the disinformation is part of a teachable moment. You should not sit back and believe everything you are told, you should think for yourself, you should question when someone tells you to trust. Otherwise you just become a sheep of a different master. Q and Trump are not aiming to become that.
There is only one being I want to be a sheep of and that is Jesus.
Excellent discussion. As a side note, I read a link here yesterday that said ~33% of Americans think we may have to take up arms to correct our government. Think about that.... that's about 100 million people!
But buried somewhere in Q's drops is the assurance that there will be no civil war, and that in fact the very reason Q exists was to educate and awaken We The People so that there would be no civil war.
to be honest, it's not like I know that much about Q. the "Q posts" are harder to read for me than technical manuals...and it doesn't help that it's all collated as out of context quotes without any of the related conversations included...
We are all full of shit. You'll fit right in.
There is a difference between "doing nothing" and "engaging in a hot war."
We are not doing nothing. On the contrary, I work all day long every day on the effort.
Our enemy is a few thousand people who sit at the top of a control structure. If we fight with guns, who are we going to shoot? The 4 billion people who are brainwashed, standing in front of the real enemy?
The battlefield is the Minds of Men.
The weapon is the evidence of who the real enemy is.
The victory condition is when those 4 billion people standing in front of the real enemy realize who the real enemy is.
The war is fully engaged by us; and we are winning.
Look at the world around you right now. This is what a mind war looks like. This is what it looks like when the Cabal is losing. People are waking up to the real enemy in droves. More and more are moving voluntarily to the other side. No shots fired. No bullets necessary.
The word is mightier than the sword.
oh sure. I never said take up arms (though I can see how i could have been more clear in my wording), but you see people saying, "why wont the white hats act already" constantly...
Meh, not really. Some people say that, because some people don't get what the real war is (usually those who are new, or sit on the fringe, not really engaging in the conversation regularly). That doesn't mean there aren't millions who understand what the battlefield is, and what our job is to fight the real war.
Taking the words of some, and equating it with the words of all, is exactly the sort of thing that prevents people from seeing the truth of a thing. Most people who appreciate the works of Q are not sitting on their ass asking "why won't the white hats act already." On the contrary, most are not asking that at all because it is obvious they are doing a fuckton.
It is, for the most part, others that say that "Q followers said X" or "Y." And again, there is likely some truth to it, but it is not the predominant attitude. Not by a mile.
Great points well made. TY.
The finger-pointing started after the Resident was installed. Q followers had been championing one theory after another expecting the criminals could not possibly ‘be allowed’ get away with The Steal in plain view. That’s when ‘outsiders’ started blaming Q followers for passivity and read these catchphrases as evidence.
Let me ask you, imagine if Trump had “lost” in 2016 to Hillary? What do you think would have happened? Would millions have been engaged, as we are now, with unraveling the complex web of evil that engineer a false matrix of reality around us? Would Patriots be acting to secure our freedoms, as you describe? That is Q.
“Patriots are in control” and “you’re watching a movie” are said in context with events to indicate the enemy’s moves and countermoves are totally predictable. Are there some holdouts in the Q movement who have interpreted this to mean the enemy is literally captured and now just LARPing a scripted “show?” Though there is a small minority who think this way, they get significant pushback for those views. It’s lazy, not logical thinking.
Likewise, anyone calling “white hats” an organized ‘army’ of insiders working “the plan” has not understood what Q clearly says. “Fewer than 10” know the plan. And what if we never heard of Q? Isn’t it only logical to assume there would be at least ten patriots, among the hundreds of thousands serving our country, who share our commitment and sense of urgency to defeat the cabal?
The bottom line is Q kept patriots from a fool’s errand of ‘storming the bastille’ and engaged patriots in a new kind of warfare. As bubble says, it wouldn’t matter if we removed the puppets. The battle space is in the mind.
‘We are Q’ is catchphrase that anons started. We always understood “we” are the mission.
fair enough, lol.
sorry for kicking a hornet's nest
WE are the "WHITE HATS". WE are the ones who are "AWAKE", "RED PILLED", WE are the ones behind and pushing "THE GREAT AWAKENING" thru our attendance and support at rallies, events, on media platforms. WE are the ones who say loudly "Go Woke, GO BROKE". WE are the ones that absolutely MUST be in support of every town, city, and state working to defeat this cabal of evil, in school boards, city halls, law enforcement, sheriff's, woke churches, at work, and yes, even our friends and family.
YES!
You are amazing and 100% correct.
Thank God for anons like you. WWG1WGA
I’m fighting a deep state of my own in my industry. My local union’s entrance exam proctors have been sabotaging and weaponizing the exams against the union applicants for decades. I’ve created a 1000+ page reference guide (for sale) to weaponize the information right back at them. I don’t believe most of us are sitting back. Every day I come here and I see all of us working hard to make sure we are not deceived. Sharing useful truthful information and coming to a healthy consensus together. If each of us do our part, either in big ways or small, we too can be white hats.
information collation is one thing I've praised GAW for since I found communities.win...
Information is the war. We are in the game of information. Not too hard to work out.
There is definitely "organized white hats".
Not getting angry at what Brandon says isn't "sitting back and doing nothing."
Laughing at stock market decline and record inflation isn't "sitting back and doing nothing."
Not letting the deep state control your emotions and actions isn't "sitting back and doing nothing."
Understanding that we are in an information & culture war and doing everything you can, and in many cases it's what you DON'T do, to show others truth. To give them clarity and sanity in a fucked out world. And once everyone understands that then that's when they begin to see how the white hats operate. You'll have "evolved" from the primitive thinking that they want you to have. It's called "being an example".
I actually really enjoyed this perspective. I always thought in my mind something similar when I would read on here "White hats" this and "White hats" that. The other concept that I struggle with is "watching a movie." Sitting and watching in itself is a rather "passive" thing. Many on here are comfortable with that and the knowledge they have been given by the Q team gives them further insight to "the movie." I am guilty of this myself and pretty much a lurker here. I can't avoid this feeling we are missing some facet of the American Spirit in this movement and I think you hit the nail on the head. This struck a chord with me. Fully mobilized... Is there more this movement could start to do? By us and at this juncture?
A good movie requires good actors. Joe Biden is definitely an actor. Unless you suffer from prosopagnosis, it's obviously not the same person. Killary has doubles; probably many others, too.
I think so, too. It's very obvious.
one thing I've always praised GAW for, ever since i found communities.win, is your ability to dig up useful info.
Say whatever you want about the Q stuff, but you guys are one hell of a news aggregator...
The "Sit around and wait for white hats" people are griffters. Which Q warned about but people still like to feed into them. Q says to get involved.
We have the power.
We are the news now.
We are the army of autistic frogs fighting the propaganda warfare with memes.
We must go to the enemies den (Twitter, fb, etc.) in normie camo and fight back.
We are the government.
We are the protectors of the vote.
We have to dig for info and dirt on these people. It cant be handed to us.
All Q
All things Anons have done and continue to do.
Remember all movements, all collectives have grifters and infiltraters. Even TDW. An unfortunate reality in todays environment.
Exactly right and a real recent example of that was the US run biolabs in Ukraine! It wasn't by chance that on alternative media documentary's and the like were dropped shortly before the Russia/Ukraine war broke out.
And what did some of us learn? That there were over 30 labs being run by the US DoD in Ukraine, with the diplomatic pouch system being used to transfer samples etc. We found out locals had been injured by strange exotic viruses, we saw US contractors entering labs on diplomatic number plates, even read documents on how the US was researching Russian specific genes to attack with viruses and even a US company B&V had a contract for covid19 research in Oct 2019!
This was before Nuland got asked questions, and it made the media and establishment look stupid, because yet again some random people on the internet had more information than the MSM and Gov.
We are the news now!
conpro seems to enjoy doing this especially...
This always makes me a bit uncomfortable. The thing about collectives is they tend to loose sight of the individual. every person is just a replaceable unit in a machine... maybe I'm sperging on this point though, so fee free to ignore, lol.
yeldarb, Q posted that we are all Q. Yes, we are part of the white hats because our jobs are to research and to disseminate information.
Yes, the Founders handled things differently. They could. Any of us posting are doing our part. The Fathers did not have the internet. We are fighting digitally. Not that you've come out and said this but when posters push us to physical action, it annoys me because wouldn't the cabal just love an excuse to push FJB to send troops after us?
The Lord and savior comment was unnecessary even if it was in fun. The triune God is our only Lord and Savior.
agreed, such a thing should always be a last resort, even if it weren't for the obvious propagandistic use the swamp creatures would put it to. Sorry if there was any confusion.
hard for me to resist, lol. the parallels are almost impossible to ignore sometimes...
okay, well, sorry for the confusion on my part.
I see posts from time about "when are the white hats gonna do X?" once in a while, so yeah... =/
There’s generals and there’s foot soldiers.
a fair point
just thinking.
Like I said, I'm an outsider to this movement, lol.
We were always part of The Plan. Just the part that didn't involve kinetic action.
Hopefully it never comes to that...War is a terrible thing even when it's necessary...
Tell me about it.
Yet
Q is Q , the “great awakening” is the “great awakening.”
I don’t have a religious fervor about it contrary to apparent opinions on the matter, nor do I care if Q is a larp or a psyop— if it was , it backfired horribly, and I couldn’t be more delighted
taking my off-hand joke too seriously, lol
Again, I wasn't serious about that part, just poking fun. Feel free to poke back!
Yes,I also enjoy putting others down derisively. We should be friends.
=P I thought that was how all guys bonded, lmao.
Megan Rose and the Galactic Federation of Worlds, disagrees with you.
not getting the reference, sorry, lol
She's on YouTube and she has a book out (small read but super entertaining) that even mentions Q. Highly recommend!
So, I have a question, probably stupid. So, these people have been doing this for centuries, right? And no doubt they have spies here, and 8chan, etc. They read everything we read. Wouldn't they just read this stuff here and respond? Like we've talked about the financial collapse for years. Wouldn't they just change how they do it?
The media controlled the masses for them, now not so much! Read any comment posts on places like YT, the masses are waking up!
Many now know covid was seriously wrong, one question I always use to a normie defending all things covid is, "so how many of your family or close friends ended up in hospital or died form covid"? The answer is always the same to date, NONE!
Sure some people had a bad flu, but that happens every year and the amounts are quite large, not so much with the normal flu strains in 2020 and 2021 tho!
Serious, ask people that question and use it against their arguments.
They do not view us as a credible threat. It's Q they need to worry about, not us. Any semblance of danger we posed was declawed on J6.
I mean, there is that, but what happens when all the best, and most of the worst, ways to do that, have all been blocked off? what happens when patriots start building victory gardens, etc?
Q Told us in post 1269 to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT:
Are you awake? Do you SEE (for yourself) the MSM = propaganda tool of the LEFT? Do you SEE FB/Twitter/GOOG censoring non LEFT POVs? Do you SEE the corruption? Do you SEE the EVIL? Are you a SLAVE? Are you CONTROLLED? Are you a SHEEP? ARE YOU AWAKE? DO YOU THINK FOR YOURSELF? LEARN THE TRUTH. FACTS. HISTORY. THE GREAT AWAKENING. THEY ARE LOSING CONTROL. RESPECT OPINION OR ATTACK THOSE WHO DARE CHALLENGE THE NARRATIVE? IT’S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. WHO ARE THE TRUE FASCISTS? WHO ARE THE TRUE RACISTS? WHY DOES THE ANTIFA FLAG MIMIC THAT OF THE NAZIS? COINCIDENCE? FOR HUMANITY - WAKE UP - LEARN. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT WHERE WE GO ONE, WE GO ALL! Q
Again, I haven't sifted through the library that is the Q posts, and I"m just an outsider looking in, but you see a lot of "why hasn't this happened yet?" type posts when you're scrolling the scored all feed...
too long didn't read
It helps to turn the fonts up real big.
I once sat next to a lady on a plane who was reading a book on her iphone, she literally had the font size so big that there was around 6 words per swipe.
Wait until you read ghost_of_aswartz post below. 😁
Lmao, I do tend to wax verbose sometimes...😅
Put in work or gtfo.
Step 1: The Great Awakening.
Well done. Opposing views equal growth
I like you guys. You do good research, and you take and give a joke well. I question the validity of q a little bit, but that doesn't mean I'm right and/or you're wrong.
maybe most don't, but some do. you see the posts from time to time.
I'm not attacking, by the way hope you don't misunderstand.
There’s only one Lord and Savior and that’s Jesus Christ.
again, poking fun, not serious, lol.