I went to a new doctor last week for a hand issue, and when the nurse left the room, my medical chart was left open on the computer screen. There, in a 2 inch by 1 inch block in the top, right corner in large, bold letters, it said PATIENT REFUSED. I always figured my refusal of the jab was displayed somewhere because I could always tell the doctor’s reaction to me. But the size of this literally screamed to any doctor that I had not complied. I almost felt violated with the size emphasis to make sure no medical person ever misses that I bucked their order. It fully taints any trust or relationship I have or could have with that medical person.
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I think this might be a violation of law.
Several years ago, I went to a doctor for an ear issue. During the "interview" before the doc came in, the nurse was asking a lot of questions.
One of the questions was, "Do you own any firearms?"
Huh? For an ear issue?
I responded with, "What does that have to do with my ear?"
She said, "I know, I just have to ask."
I said, "It is not relevant, it is intrusive, and it is none of your business."
She said she agreed, and moved on.
Later, I looked into it, and found I could "lock" my medical records in a way similar to locking a credit report. This might or might not work WITHIN a particular health system -- might only work on records if the health system you are using is different from another one who has your info.
Anyway, I later went in for a routine annual physical (back when I thought this might be a good idea -- but no more!), and the doctor called me after the checkup to ask why I had my medical records from a previous procedure locked. IOW, he could not access those records without my express, written permission (which I never gave).
Something to consider.
Nice! Reminds me of a Seinfeld episode...
Yea the one where the dentist writes "difficult" on her chart.
Yeah. Some people are just too hard to kill dang it
Is that the Steven Seagal movie where he refuses the vaxx?
Anti-dentite!
You...dont want to wear the ribbon??? Wtf is wrong with YOU
NO SOUP FOR YOU !
Howls. You are a good one.
I wonder if this applies to colonoscopies. I'm in my 40s and have never had one.
EDIT: Okay, I get it, I'm not getting one! You can stop now!
Don't unless there are issues. I'm not a doctor, so just my opinion, never had one, don't want one.
Colonoscopies are for DNA gathering. My husband’s medical provider asked him to come back in to the office b/c he refused to send his DNA through the mail. He again refused. They asked why. He then proceeded to tell the provider that he didn’t want China or anyone else collecting his DNA to make bio weapons. The provider looked shocked. He said, “There is nothing wrong so why create issues?” They finally backed off. I was SO proud of him!
Colonoscopies are outpatient procedures, so no general anethesthetic. Not a big deal. If polyps are caught early, they are easily removed during the procedure. Early detection is key and easy to do so why not? If you have issues like blood in your stool, or worse, it may be too late to fix or much more difficult to do so.
Discernment is our greatest weapon in information warfare. Think about the pros and cons, ask around, and then make the best decision for you.
Colonoscopies are administered with general anesthesia here. It’s a giant racket and a huge money maker. The facilities are enormous and run like mini hospitals (= huge insurance reimbursement). All you need as an initial screen is a stool sample. The whole polyps thing is BS.
Every location is different. Different medical systems, different doctors, different state regs, etc.
Everyone should do their own research and make their own decision.
As an example, if there is family history of colon cancer, screening is probably more important.
I encourage everyone to stay safe and healthy. We need as many of us in good health as possible. We still have much ahead of us!
u/#Ridetofreedom
Never had one, never will. My father had the pleasure of a perforated colon during his, almost bled to death, only to find later (3 months) they missed a tumor. He ended losing 1/2 of his colon.
There is also cologuard as an option. It tests for blood and DNA changes that signal cancer. There are false positives and negatives though. With a scope, they actually see what's up.
I am not pushing it one way or the other. Everyone needs to make their own decision.
I despise the medical industry as much as anyone and I am no advocate for them.
I am an advocate for my frens' health and long life though. 🐸❤️
Don't do it. It is the number 1 money making procedure. No one has ever been saved from cancer from a colonoscopy
There was news awhile back that the scopes CAN NOT BE COMPLETELY CLEANED!!!!! Meaning other people’s shot is being injected deep inside you.
Just say no. Hell no. Fuck no. Never.
I can confirm this, unfortunately. 🤢😵☠️
This
I took my colonoscopy pics to my dad & said "see, I got proof. My head is NOT in my ass."
I know several people that have died from bleeding out during colonoscopies. The worst part is they can do blood tests or ultrasounds to diagnose you without the need for a colonoscopy.
I'm generally a person who prefers to be truthful, but my doctor has NEVER asked me about firearms. But if he ever does, I'm going to lie to his face and say, "NO! I hate those things!" Maybe it depends on what state you're in. Being in Tennessee, not a single doctor has ever asked me about that.
Hypothetical dystopia-
"And now you find out your doctor was secretly deputized by the FBI and knows you're lying about the guns, and you're in for a world of hurt you just created for yourself by not telling the truth."
Learn from Abraham of the Bible. Lying will only get you into more trouble.
the doctor called me after the checkup to ask why
What did you say in response?
Excellent advice!
Vaccine passports and medical records are being used to impose tyrannical control. Nothing to do with health. Just as the vaccine is nothing to do with prevention or remedy for disease.
I gave my Dr a lecture giving all the reasons why I wasn’t getting the jab.
After I started talking facts with mine, they immediately shut up & never offered it again. They tried to push it during multiple visits & multiple times per visit.
You're lucky. Mine told me I was an idiot for believing what I read on the internet and that I was only killing my grandmother (who he knew I was very close to).
Haven't bothered going back since.
You might want to check to see if your old doctor hasn't "died suddenly" and all the other doctors aren't baffled!
I feel in a way oddly fortunate that all of my grandparents where already long dead before 2020. That emotional guilt tripping was dead in the water before anyone could try it on me.
"Nope, just killing your grandma thanks to my selfish desire to avoid myocarditis and blood clots."
Definitely worth finding a physician that is aligned with your goals & ideology these days.
Well you might have cost him a luxury vacation or big fat bonus (sarcasm).
Same here.
Friend did something similar (politely declined the jab and noted the success of alternative remedies in one state in India) with an (ostensibly nice) specialist at Mayo and was thereafter relegated to an assistant/associate per explicit instructions added to the file, even though their condition is one of the specialist's primary areas of interest/expertise and may warrant more educated/experienced monitoring.
Apparently, SOME PEOPLE are SO brainwashed, fragile or scared of professional repurcussions that they can't tolerate ANY viewpoints that run counter to the "official narrative" and related policies.
HOPEFULLY, the TRUTH will come out and these fragile/indoctrinated "experts" will feel guilt and shame (and repercussions) for harming(/killing) others by putting their careers/incomes ahead of doing their REAL job, which SHOULD BE to protect and enhance their patients' well-being.
At my first in-person dr. visit during the plandemic, I refused the covid vax. The doctor asked if I was an anti-vaxer. I said, I didn't used to be, but after doing the research on covid-19, I stated to look into all of our other vaccines and told him I would never take another vaccine my whole life. I wonder what that looks like on my chart.
I am not an anti-vaxxer. I would gladly take any vaccine for which the doctor can prove efficacy and show that the side effects are less than actually catching the disease. Double blind randomly controlled trials only, against an actual placebo, with 5-10 year follow up.
Never going to happen.
Having worked in hospital medical records for years, I can assure you that is not personal. It's all about liability for the hospital, doctors etc. Speaking of liability, the nurse that left the room with a patients medical record on screen, iolated HIPPA laws. Which a person/employee can be held personally responsible for.
If you read the actual statute for HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Acountability Act), you will see that it ONLY applies to transmitting medical records between a medical provider and a health insurance payer (health insurance company).
It certainly does not prevent the patient from seeing his own records.
However, most hospitals and clinics teach their employees that any disclosure is "against HIPAA," when it really is not. Hospitals and clinics should (and likely do) have their own internal policies to prevent this, though.
Nope- it pertains to anybody in the waiting room not being able to hear a first AND last name together-- ANY PERSONAL IDENTIFIEABLE DATA is under HIPPA- as sales rep in hospitals, labs and physician offices, this is made VERY clear and training/affidavits of training are mandatory for ALL who are near PHI, to include janitors
I already said I KNOW you are trained that way.
But you are trained WRONG.
It is NOT a part of HIPAA. You are told that, but that is to scare you (not such a bad idea, probably).
HIPAA is a law and like all laws, it has SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. And ONLY that language is "the law."
Not that I trust the CDC for anything, but a quick search online (something MOST people in your profession will never do on their own, which is a big part of the problem) ... comes up with this link near the top:
https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/hipaa.html
HIPAA was passed in 1996 -- before the internet was a thing. People were snail mailing and faxing things back then.
They created this to protect those "electronic transmissions of health information," when a hospital or clinic sent health records via electronic data to a health insurance company to be paid for health care services (a transaction).
That is what HIPAA is.
Everybody in your field is TOLD that it is much more than that, but technically, it is not.
Your organization SHOULD have its own internal policies for these things that extend beyond transmitting data electronically ... BUT POLICIES ARE NOT LAW.
There are also exceptions to HIPAA, where even the law itself does not apply to that limited issue.
You can read it yourself.
Look up the statute to read it yourself.
Just understand, all of your training on this is WRONG. It is done to SCARE you so you will not disclose anything (which is good, anyway). The people training you ALSO do not know that what they are saying is wrong, most likely.
That, in a nutshell, IS the American medical industry today ... sadly.
Yes it is. That information is used to "prompt" doctors as to how to treat patients.
Do they list all the other medications I don't take?
Absolutely!!! Nurse is in big trouble-- REPORT!
I thought it's about getting their bribe money, not about liability. Don't doctors get kickbacks from big pharma if a certain percentage of their patients get vaccinated?
Do you know anything about that? Or would that be separate from what your job was?
Right. That's why they ALL use the SAME codes. For data mining.
Same happens when a cop asks to see your ID -- for any reason.
He puts it into his computer. What HE sees is you have no warrants, so he doesn't think anything else about it.
But that computer SENDS it to a database, where the database entity also does not know what is done with it.
But that database sends it onward and onward, and it eventually ends up with Interpol.
This is WORLDWIDE.
Interpol has NO COURT IN THE WORLD that it is subject to.
Rumor is they have their own assassination squad.
So, enjoy the next time a cop says, "Let me see your ID."
Or, your doc says, "Are you up to date on your vaccines?"
so can i tell a cop NO when he asks?
Yes, unless they have probable cause that you've committed a crime. 4th and 5th amendments.
Every state has passed laws that give law enforcement the right to identify you. If you refuse to provide ID, or claim you don't have any they have the right to place you under arrest and fingerprint you to ID you. This has been upheld against 4th amendment challenges.
They say you are allowed to request a copy of your medical records but when I once tried, they straight up refused. Became hostile and suspicious. It wasn’t super important so I didn’t push the issue and was really more curious to see if we really are allowed to see them. Probably if you hired a lawyer and forced the issue, they’d eventually release a redacted (or altered) version, but for some reason they really don’t want people seeing what they’re writing on there.
Thats bullshit! You can obtain your med records- they just make you pay- this is a reportable HIPPA violation on the drs part-
Right, I’m sure they have to hand them over. I just think they throw up low-key resistance. Nothing official on paper that says they refused, more like a snotty attitude and making you feel like an asshole. I didn’t push it because it seemed like a hassle.
I would push them- i have easily obtainedy FULL med records to include labs- it just costs the admin fees- more hospital systems are on EMRs and have something similar to MYCHART, you can access labs, drs notes, etc through an online portal...
The only reason people request them is for lawsuits. That's why they responded with fear.
Just went in to the Dr because a health screening said I had high blood pressure. Dr asked about vax status. I said hell no, why get a vax for an illness that's about as deadly as lightning?
Then she said she was recommending to treat the high BP with medication. Again I said no.
Then I asked if plugged up arteries could lead to high BP. She said yes, indirectly. I asked, then why dont we do a CT scan and see if my arteries around the heart are plugged up? She said, oh but your insurance wouldn't cover that and it's really expensive. I said How much?? She said $150. Really!
I'm getting the scan.
Here's the question: Who's acting like a Doctor, me or the one in the white coat?
I had surgery recently. I requested to review all documents for patient care to make sure there was no language that said it was okay to vaccinate while a patient was knocked out.
I also had to sign that I would not take any blood transfusions and if I required it they would have to let me die.
They looked me in the face and said, "so if you are bleeding out, we are not allowed to administer blood transfusions to save your life", I said, "yes".
I have heard, though have not researched it, that blood transfusions are never or almost never necessary.
If you are given basic fluid with electrolytes, your own body will manufacture the blood cells needed, and they will be your own blood.
Of course, you couldn't find 1 doctor in 10,000 who has ever heard of this, much less researched it to verify or refute -- or even cares to.
Your body does not make blood cells that quickly. The reason transfusions are rarely needed is that humanity has learned to manage bleeding much better during planned surgeries. They cauterize as they cut to minimize blood loss.
If they cut an artery and let you bleed a few liters of blood onto the floor, no amount of saline will save you.
If you have a planned surgery that has a chance for severe blood loss, you can always donate your own blood designated for only you first, then if not needed can be used for other patients. I believe it is called autologous donation.
I tried that.
That was the first thing I asked about when I found out I needed surgery. I wanted to plan ahead and donate in time for my surgery.
They explicitly said, "No". I asked my oncologist and the plastic surgeon both. They would not even consider it and said they had no facilities for banking my blood.
That is why I had to sign my life away in case I bled out. I had only two options, take unknown blood or bleed out.
I can tell you it was pretty scary. Imagine you are signing papers for your surgery (scary enough) and then you have to sign the waiver saying you would rather die than take unknown blood.
Glad you ended up ok and they didn't botch it up. God was watching over you.
That is really unfortunate. If you ever in that situation in the future, go to the blood bank and ask them directly if they will draw the blood and send it to the hospital for you.
Good idea. Thanks. I will definitely do that next time. All the best!
emphasis
These same assholes had zero difficulty administering remdesivir and then putting the patient on a ventilator, knowing they were killing that patient, because the hospital made big $$$$$. They can cut the bs.
Thanks for this … I also have concerns on what they do “in my best interests”
Thanks so much for sharing this, fren. That's great info to know. It's chilling, but not unexpected, and really drives home what a lot if us already suspected: that this didn't end when the vaxx mandates did, and we're still targets of the medical system for the "crime" of not complying.
These people hate us for this, and a lot of them will continue trying to find ways of making us pay for our defiance, which means we can never trust the medical system again (not that most of us ever did to begin with). So stay away from doctors at all costs. In my experience, if you're unvaxxed, a lot of them actively wish you harm.
I keep hearing that the hospitals are blocking organ transplants to or from the unvaxxed. Cannot wait for the class action lawsuits to put an end to that barbarism.
Why would you want a vaccinated body part?
I've resigned myself to concluding that when it's my time to go, it's my time to go.
When I was a young boy, I used to talk to the old people and learned so much.
One man who lived through the 1916-18 Spanish Flu years and served in World War II in some capacity (I honestly don't know which branch) told me the doctors are there for two things, heart attacks and broken limbs. I've kept his advice.
Add prolonged fasting to your routine, it induces autophagy, which repairs organ damage. If I ever end up needing a new organ, I'll start fasting intensively.
Yes, this is really going on. Recently an unvaxxed man in Canada died because the government refused to let him get the transplant he needed unless he took the covid vaxx.
But hospitals aren't blocking transplants FROM the unvaxxed, though. After the man died, the hospital that killed him asked his wife to donate his organs to them. Thankfully, she told them to pound sand.
This isn't just medical tyranny. We're living in a full-blown dystopian nightmare.
Yep, not only what you said about that enormous mark, but also the totality of all behavior from a huge number of medical "professionals";
They keep trying to pretend that never happened. Also that it even did and was viral showed their lack of total control over social media, whoever was supposed to maintain the narrative that the hospitals where utterly overwhelmed dropped the ball on allowing those to be uploaded and spread.
I'm absolutely sure they have been desperately trying to bury it, but just curious; what have you read / heard about their efforts to dismiss / excuse that shit?
I mean; give it just a min of thought:
Come up with the idea (lots of bored / spare / empty time at work to dream up choreographed dance videos)
Chit-chat around the water cooler with everyone
Get MULTIPLE staff members on board. Most of the videos had at LEAST 6-10++ nurses / medical "professionals"
Firm up the idea / song / dance
Choreograph & practice
Film it. Undoubtedly needs several takes
Edit it
Approve / settle on final version
Upload.
That's not an hour or two of extra / spare time; that's hours and hours of dedicated, concerted efforts.
Meanwhile, the "deadliest virus this side of the black plague" is running amok, right??
My doctor flat out said you will die without the jab if you catch covid. I laughed and she left the room. A nurse came in to finish the appointment.
Family doctors exist to push this shit for big pharma.
I kept telling my doctors to put me on the naughty list cause I would never get it.
I need surgery for a hernia and I’m not going until we get trustworthy doctors!! I don’t trust them, I’m afraid they would jab me after I went under
I wonder if they would ever consent to have the whole thing filmed. Probably not.. since medical error is like the 3rd leading cause of death in the US, they try everything to cover their butts.
When I left my last doctor I asked to review my files so he brought in the 10 year inch plus thick folder and I pulled everything out except the cover page and took it with me.
Also just checked my medical app and it clearly says “no covid vaccination records” - nothing about any other vaccination or medical records. Just test results and medication info. At least it gave me the option to toggle off the covid notifications on the home page.
Badge of Honor
I would want it in big bold letters on the cover of my chart and at the top of every single page with a big 🖕
Hester Prynne lives 👏🏻
Yeah, put it in bold scarlet colored letters. No problem. Just don’t forget the 🖕
When ANY vaccine is refused a physician marks the vaccine declined. No big deal! I refused my last tetanus, my Dr. wrote, patient declined. Who cares?
I knew it was recorded somewhere, but I think seeing how big it was in size is what shocked me. For me it wasn’t just stating I’d refused; it was that it screamed I refused.
right, its actually a minor medical thing, but a major authoritarian thing
I understand but it will appear in the same font if you decline any vax. At my recent physical my doctor made no remark regarding my unvaxxed Coof status.
Curious why you refused your tetanus....
I chose not to get it at that particular appointment, however I am now up to date because I traveled to SE Asia. Since then I've been reading up on the tetanus vax, not sure I'll getting another. I'm 62 so I'm nearing the I don't give a F*ck stage of life 🥳
My in-laws are unjabbed, by some miracle, even though they both practically live at their doctors’ offices. They both keep lying to all their doctors that they’re jabbed and boosted and can’t wait to get the next one.
It's so cute and precious when they get all huffy and puffy because you are costing them money by refusing
Unfortunately, we no longer have a functioning society, which includes medical facilities, and so you must assume an adversarial posture (both in the sense that you should assume that posture and in the sense that you should assume that that is their posture towards you) and you must adjust your expectations accordingly. It may be safer, and quite likely cheaper, to go to another country for medical care.
Divorce the corrupt medical establishment. Only go if you have a traumatic injury; avoid them otherwise.
Learn about food and herbs and suppressed cures.
I do oils, diet and exercise to help with most things, but this year I needed cataract surgery and foot surgery due to horrible bunion pain. We still need doctors for some things like this, unfortunately.
Yeah it sucks that Medicine has become so corrupt. I hate not being able to trust my doctors, and knowing that they pretty much take bribes to push Big Pharma products on patients. Hope you're eyes and feet are feeling better friend.
I like my doctor but am considering going to someone more holistic. He loves what he does and is a HUGE patient advocate. But he is emotionally devoted to the system he believes in wholeheartedly. He doesn't push the jab on anyone but I know he believes in it. And the flu shot, and the statins which recently, seem kinda poisony to me.
There is actually a medical code now for refusing covid jabs. Everything has a code now... different illnesses, disabilities, injuries... everything has a code. So now, physicians have a code for refusing covid jabs. Personally, I don't care, I've always been a rebel.
Coding would actually be a useful thing if it was used for good. Being able to sus out health issues on a population level could help a lot of people. We probably already have all the information needed to show any harm or benefit for a lot of medical products, but the people are sold out for $$$
Well, I think codes serve a dual purpose. First is for insurance billing practices. Everything has to have a code to be covered by insurance. But I think codes also serve a research purpose at the meta-data level. Without revealing names and personal info, codes can be totaled and summarized over vast populations and demographics.
Still, however, I do resent have my medical records polluted with a "vaxx refusal" code.
Maybe eventually it will be a good thing. Scientists wondering "How come we're seeing so much better health outcomes will all these people with this certain code?"
Probably just wishful thinking though.
Do you know what the code is? I’d like to print off some t-shirts or get a vanity plate for the truck.
Sorry, I do not. Maybe Google can tell you.
"National Health Care". - BO
I think the larger the letters on your chart indicates the more vehement you were about not getting the shot. My rheumatologist tried to talk me into getting the shot. And that office the letters on my chart must all be a foot high and bold type. There was no way he was going to convince me to get any shot ever and I stopped going to him. There are plenty of doctors to go around
Some people probably have on their chart:
THIS FUCKER JUST WON'T DO IT
Prior vaccines are why you now need a rheumatologist
We’ll that’s interesting, because I got into quite the argument with my PCP and even told her about the people dying suddenly. This was a year or so ago when deaths first showed up in athletes in Europe. She asked me, “We’ll are they dying here?” Needless to say, I found another doctor who has never even asked me, but now I know maybe it’s because of those great big letters.
Why did she say "We will are they dying here?"?
We'll wait for the answer. :)
I don't know if I have anything or not on my chart because I simply did not see my PCP whilst all the madness was occurring. I've only seen him since because of injury, not illness, and he never mentioned the jab. He DID recommend the shingles vax, which I got. Maybe he assumed? Dunno.
I hope you snapped a picture.
Shoot. No. I won’t make that mistake again.
This was taken from a Recent post on here...and WHY I will try my best to avoid anything Medical...Unless it is Life or Death...at which Point they wouold probably Kill me and say it was Covid - What is this new code? It’s Code Number Z28.310. This is the code for a very peculiar “diagnosis” since it’s not a diagnosis at all, but an invasion of privacy and likely to be used against many people in the future. This is the code your doctor will log into the computer system that is accessed by government and private health insurers informing them of your Covid vaccine status.
The ICD system really grew into an electronic data-mining beast with the passage by Congress of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) in 2012. The digitization of healthcare records was fully implemented with the upgrade to ICD-10 after two congressional delays in 2016.
He explained that Z28.3 is the diagnostic code for being under-vaccinated generally, but it gets more specific from there.
“It’s non-specific,” the doctor explained. “But with Covid they added the 1 after the 3 (Z28.31), so Covid is the only vaccine they’re specific for. Then they added a second digit if you’re partially vaccinated and didn’t get any of the boosters.”
These codes could continue to get more specific to the point that they also log in codes for why you refuse Big Pharma’s ineffective and unsafe — but very profitable — injections.
The doctor told me he saw one patient’s diagnosis code that was specific for refusing the vaccine due to his schizophrenia.
“A lot of people with schizophrenia are paranoid of shots and different treatments, so his doctors were attributing him (as unvaxxed) on that basis,” the doctor said.
So it doesn’t take too much of an imagination to see how this system could be abused
These codes are part of the International Classification of Disease (ICD) system set forth by the United Nations World Health Organization and they’re about to get far more invasive.
Medical Profession Implements WHO Digital Diagnosis Code Z28.310 for the Unvaxxed. Enacted Jan. 2023
I don't care anymore...
because my "doctor" laughed at Joe Rogan and Nikki Minaj, 2 years ago!
This year they didn't even mention the clot shot to me.
So what does it say for the ones who took it? “Sheep” ? Maybe “easily to take advantage of” ?
Code Baa.1. Or alternatively code Id.10t
At a time when I switched doctors and hospitals I reviewed my med records and found A LOT of discrepancies. I notified them and told them it is a FEDERAL FELONY to put misinformation into a medical record.
Even something as simple as next of kin. They had me listed as never married (though I was married twice) so who would make decisions for me if incapacitated? They would.
I cannot stress enough esp anytime they want you to sign something (they will say this form just gives us permission to treat you) be sure you read it and cross out what you dont give permission to. In my case the form had a DNR order! Then why did I go to the ER?
Next time say "I've got like 6 of the most recent boosters"
PATIENT REFUSED reinforces the fact that this wasn’t a free informed choice but a mandated procedure.
I wonder if they have a similar PATIENT COMPLIED marker for those that took the shot.
Probably depends on the system they use...
But, fukkem
BTW, you are within your rights to review and take out anything in your records…course most are digital now.