I hear what you're saying, but she wasn't exactly innocent. She actively recruited and exploited other women as well. I know this isn't a popular opinion, but she also enabled Epstein to abuse others for her financial benefit. The media loves to ignore that part of the story. Also, this could very well be a plot to allow her to disappear because she's implicated too many people. This could very well be witness protection.
The crash does seem to be real. Giuffre's spokesman confirmed it to the Mail.
And her Dad says her family has been in contact with her
While he has not spoken with his daughter since the crash, his son - Giuffre’s brother - has been in regular contact with her over the past couple of days and has kept him updated as to her condition.
She’s very depressed… there’s everything else she’s been going through with the divorce and not being able to see her kids.’
So it seems to me this has to do with her going through a divorce, not witness protection, not comms, etc.
These things jump out at me if we want to speculate it, what's going on here.
A. Recently estranged husband is seeking a divorce
B. She apparently can't see her kids
C. Kidney failure
D. Car accident.
What if we learned that this is the order. Something happened where her husband wanted to divorce her. He apparently has custody. Her kidneys are failing and she was just recently in a car accident.
I would have said that the "season of sacrifice" would be at Samhain/Halloween - the end of the summer and the end of the year - the second full moon after the Autumn Equinox - the time when food animals were slaughtered and the meat stored in the colder weather - and the reason why Halloween is filled with frightening images.
Springtime is for life and renewal and light. Samhain/Halloween is for darkness, sacrifice, and blood.
Is it a warning? Is something coming out? They can always find the one person they want…they don’t care about injuring/killing others. God help that woman and all SA victims.
My son was in a serious car accident last August. His face was swollen for a month. If she's still in the hospital, there would be swelling. Not sure where you get that bruises don't swell. "Blood leaks into areas under the skin, resulting in pain, swelling, and skin discoloration. Bruises occur when blood vessels break, due to some kind of force, and leak blood into areas under the skin. The main symptoms of a bruise are pain, swelling, and skin discoloration."
I've been badly bruised in my shins, but there was no swelling. I have never experienced swelling from bruises alone. I had a recent foot injury resulting in bruises, and there was also swelling---but I found out that one of my phalanges had slightly dislocated. It was aggravated by a chronic problem I have with peripheral edema.
There may be a significant difference if the trauma is blunt force (contacting structure) or distributed pressure (air bag). Also, in her case, the discolorations may not be bruises at all, but transfer material from the air bag. The article misstates the "4 days" remark. That was what she was told, not what she claims.
I would say it is not wise to be suspicious of an accident victim, if the news is being reported by a newspaper long on sensation and short on facts.
Good observation. Also...Just observing she married her husband after ten days (probably used him to escape Epstein and get travel documents) then dumped her husband after getting millions in "victim" money. She's a millionaire now, but she's the one estranged from her kids in a feminist court system? Never knew any of that before this article, that kind of speaks a lot about her character. What happened to her was evil, but she was no saint.
In 2019 the UK current affairs documentary series Dispatches did an episode on Epstein and Prince Andrew called The Prince & The Paedophile
Donald Trump and Melania Trump were the only figures from American politics and business featured in the episode. No Clintons, no Obamas, no Bidens, no Bushs, no Gates, no Bransons, no Winfreys, nobody else. Just Trump.
Here's something I find really strange, and honestly extremely stupid...
Ms Giuffre's last known address was with her estranged husband, Robert Giuffre, and their three children at a $1.9million beachfront property in Ocean Reef, North Perth in Western Australia.
American-born Ms Giuffre met her Australian martial arts instructor husband when she was 19 during a trip to Thailand.
The pair married 10 days later and later moved to Australia, eventually settling in West Australia in December 2020.
Ok. Ms Giuffre is seen in the famous picture with Prince Andrew, says they had sex, goes to court and specifically accuses him (and lots of other stuff happened as well). What in the world is she doing living in a Commonwealth country? King Sausage Fingers is the reigning monarch and Andrew is his brother... Seems like she could be easily reached in Australia.
President Trump said April 2nd is "Liberation Day"
And the old "hit by a bus"...
There is no logical cause-and-effect relationship between getting hit by a bus and kidney failure.
Death in hospitals caused by kidney failure is common because they put people on medicines that destroy the kidneys and the hospitals don't give people adequate hydration. We saw that happen a lot in hospitals during the COVID genocide. In some cases it may just be negligence but in many cases it's intentional.
This is a way they can ensure that if getting "hit by a bus" doesn't kill you, the kidney failure will.
Virginia's situation is either murder or witness protection.
110 km is about 68 mph. I find it interesting that the dailymail article doesn't show any photos of the wreck. She was supposedly hit by a school bus! The article says "It is not known where or when the crash happened.". Really - they don't know where or when the crash happened? So the article is really short on details isn't it. Sorry - 72 hour rule for this one!
I find it interesting that the dailymail article doesn't show any photos of the wreck.
The whole article is based on a social media post by VG. We have nothing else to go on. Everything beyond that is speculation. And the one speculation is that she is lying. And this is why we don't have details about the crash.
Right. Because the article is not about the crash. The article is about the post she made.
See my other posts. There have been some additional articles. Daily Mail has talked to her father who said yes she was in a crash. He is getting details from her brother, his son. I don't think the father was in the daughter's life recently.
Her representative also talked to the Daily Mail and confirmed this.
I also lay out some speculation in a recent comment with a timeline that may change how we think about this.
I actually did locate a local Australian news article that is possibly the crash. Some details match up some don't. Some details match up some don't
I think they're super gossipy. They love to focus on scandal. I think they get the basic facts right but they often include a ton of other speculation or hype. So people end up using their articles for all sorts of stuff.
They are often a source of us stories, because it's much harder to sue a newspaper for libel in the UK than it is in the US. So people leak stuff to the Daily Mail but they won't tell US media because they would wind up in court.
It has a vastly better reputation than a lot of stuff that appears on here. See the YouTube guy claiming there's a document released saying Hitler went to Argentina. Total 100% nonsense
Thanks! Appreciate the response. I think now this Virginia G story has entered the public consciousness. I first heard about the story from my wife early this morning.
People have been given shorter times to live. My brother nearly died overnight, from being discovered unconscious from kidney failure. He barely survived. You have to realize that a medical trauma guesstimate is not a guarantee. It could be 3. It could be 6.
I don't know where the total lack of compassion comes from. I've noticed on this page that when some God-awful disaster happens to someone, the rapid reaction is "Aw, this is fake. It's not real. It's not happening."---and therefore we don't need to entertain any human feeling for someone in misery. Not everything is a lie.
I've been in the hospital multiple times....accidents, illnesses, surgeries etc and NEVER was I allowed to wear my jewelry! Just an observation... thoughts?
Exactly, IMHO this photo of her is completely staged and it's way too obvious. Her hair nicely brushed, when you are in the hospital for even one day your hair looks like absolute shit.
She's being removed to be put into protection. She most likely wouldn't be laying on her side either especially with "imminent kidney failure."
Nice makeup job, looks somewhat convincing but no puffy swelling around the bruises.
This doesn't make sense either. Tons of people have been put into witness protection, how many have been given a bizarre cover story with a staged photo? Usually they just leave and are gone. We shall see if she keeps posting from social media. If she does, she's not in witness protection
Since "staged" means to make it look as real as possible, it is inevitable that the real thing will, by definition, "look staged." So, lay out all the reasons why this could not be the real thing, if you please. That complete absence of expression on her face is pretty convincing to me that it is real. You don't get to that without being overwhelmed and drained.
No way she would know she would be dead in four days.....unless she commits suicide.
A person can be in kidney failure for many days and then unconscious in coma for unknown period of time with organ failure. She does not die until until heart gives out and she stops breathing.
If the doctor tells you that, what are you supposed to think? Are you a doctor? Have you assessed her injuries and overall condition, including blood panels?
Doctors as a rule never give you an exact day you will die unless it is scheduled. You can not outguess God. They will warn families that death is imminent.
I am a RN with 51 years experience in all levels of patient care and that comment " i will be dead in four days" is most concerning.
I am not always impressed with doctors, especially any who might have inherited their approach from the UK NIH. And I am certainly not certifying what any doctor said to her. But she was not a doctor, and that is what she remembers being told. What is she supposed to do with that? As I said, my brother died overnight from something that no one saw coming, so I am far from trying to outguess God. But I thoroughly agree that a fatal prediction of 4 days is "most concerning." That would be an understatement.
The photo does not look like someone who is on their deathbed. It looks like she may have been battered. Did she go into witness protection I have to wonder.
And you are an expert on what people look like on their deathbed? To me, it looks like people are expected to look like when they are rammed in the face by an air bag. My brother had kidney failure and had to be on dialysis twice a week, without which he would have been dead. He was still able to hold down his job. We were in the process of repairing a long period of estrangement. Didn't look like he was on his deathbed. Until he died one night in his sleep from heart failure.
In my perfect world, the White Hats would go fetch her and get her whatever medical care she needs, to then get her into witness protection. Why that part hasn't already happened, I have no clue.
Wow - "I got hit by a school bus" - she's been seriously threatened and is going into witness protection, is how I'm taking this. Thanks for posting the article.
While he has not spoken with his daughter since the crash, his son - Giuffre’s brother - has been in regular contact with her over the past couple of days and has kept him updated as to her condition.
Tragic that innocent people get destroyed while psychopaths go free.
I hear what you're saying, but she wasn't exactly innocent. She actively recruited and exploited other women as well. I know this isn't a popular opinion, but she also enabled Epstein to abuse others for her financial benefit. The media loves to ignore that part of the story. Also, this could very well be a plot to allow her to disappear because she's implicated too many people. This could very well be witness protection.
I doubt she did that before she met epstine.....
I have the same sentiment.
I hope so.
So the Daily Mail has more info up.
The crash does seem to be real. Giuffre's spokesman confirmed it to the Mail.
And her Dad says her family has been in contact with her
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14555807/virginia-giuffre-father-message-epstein-victim.html
So it seems to me this has to do with her going through a divorce, not witness protection, not comms, etc.
These things jump out at me if we want to speculate it, what's going on here.
A. Recently estranged husband is seeking a divorce
B. She apparently can't see her kids
C. Kidney failure
D. Car accident.
What if we learned that this is the order. Something happened where her husband wanted to divorce her. He apparently has custody. Her kidneys are failing and she was just recently in a car accident.
What connections would you make from this story.
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https://x.com/VRSVirginia
https://x.com/VRSVirginia/status/1319071346282778624
screencap of link in Q post
Oh snap! Inline Q drops are back on the menu! Noice!
Future Proves Past.
And she’s possibly pointing out we’ve reached our “final destination”. Didn’t a blond girl get hit by a bus in Final Destination 1 or 2?
Interesting... not sure. I didn't see either if those. I shall live vicariously through you fren.
The season of sacrifice is between the Spring equinox and May Day.
"The season of sacrifice is between the Spring equinox and May Day."
...valid observation...
SO on point and astute.
I would have said that the "season of sacrifice" would be at Samhain/Halloween - the end of the summer and the end of the year - the second full moon after the Autumn Equinox - the time when food animals were slaughtered and the meat stored in the colder weather - and the reason why Halloween is filled with frightening images.
Springtime is for life and renewal and light. Samhain/Halloween is for darkness, sacrifice, and blood.
It's getting weird.
weird”er”
This
Bizzaro
It's gonna get weirder. Just wait.....
Witness protection?
Flashback: Epstein Victim Virginia Giuffre Backs Trump: ‘Hopefully Our New President…Again’ — Ready to Spill Secrets to Elon Musk on Epstein Client List, Asks ‘What Are Your Plans to Set Things Right in the Billionaires’ Club?’
Could be a possibility. Could be a whack, could be a witness protection op, could be a fluke.
The key to this story is why is her husband divorcing her and why all the sudden can't she see her kids?
They don't want to start a whole new life under protection, so they create the narrative that they are estranged, she is weird and dying.
I'm sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me.
She is either going into protection or not.
How does being estranged protect her but staying put protect her?
It took me 3 minutes to find the area she is living because it's on her Instagram.
If she keeps posting on social media, we no she's not in protection.
Is it a warning? Is something coming out? They can always find the one person they want…they don’t care about injuring/killing others. God help that woman and all SA victims.
No news report on the crash, location, time etc.?
Yeah Alex I'll take Witness Protection for $300
Do you think they let protectees stay on Instagram?
She wasn’t meat to survive the accident. Prayers for Virginia 🙏🏼
I find her post strange - get profane on your supposed death bed? She just recently got a divorce after 22 years of marriage?
Is this her exit into the witness protection program?
Renal failure .... 4 days to live ? They can keep her alive with dialysis. Strange... she did mention "she's ready to go". Maybe faking her death....
Yeah, renal failure is one of the few organs that can be effectively substituted with machines... something does not add up.
Perhaps the renal failure started before the car accident?
Perhaps she caused the car accident? Her personal life seems to turn upside down recently.....this is my speculation
Sounds like it's possible
Yep. Covered in stage makeup and no bandages
Yeah and does not appear to be any swelling.
Bruises don't swell. Been there, done that.
My son was in a serious car accident last August. His face was swollen for a month. If she's still in the hospital, there would be swelling. Not sure where you get that bruises don't swell. "Blood leaks into areas under the skin, resulting in pain, swelling, and skin discoloration. Bruises occur when blood vessels break, due to some kind of force, and leak blood into areas under the skin. The main symptoms of a bruise are pain, swelling, and skin discoloration."
Boy those "bruises" sure disappeared fast. https://pagesix.com/2025/04/01/royal-family/prince-andrew-accuser-virginia-giuffre-didnt-report-injuries-in-car-crash-despite-claiming-she-has-days-to-live/
I've been badly bruised in my shins, but there was no swelling. I have never experienced swelling from bruises alone. I had a recent foot injury resulting in bruises, and there was also swelling---but I found out that one of my phalanges had slightly dislocated. It was aggravated by a chronic problem I have with peripheral edema.
There may be a significant difference if the trauma is blunt force (contacting structure) or distributed pressure (air bag). Also, in her case, the discolorations may not be bruises at all, but transfer material from the air bag. The article misstates the "4 days" remark. That was what she was told, not what she claims.
I would say it is not wise to be suspicious of an accident victim, if the news is being reported by a newspaper long on sensation and short on facts.
No lacerations = no bandages. Air bag trauma. And all you can see is her head and shoulder.
Two people confirmed a car crash to the Daily Mail. Her Dad and her representative.
Seems like an overly elaborate exit. Her handlers could have just whipped up a cancer thing.
Good observation. Also...Just observing she married her husband after ten days (probably used him to escape Epstein and get travel documents) then dumped her husband after getting millions in "victim" money. She's a millionaire now, but she's the one estranged from her kids in a feminist court system? Never knew any of that before this article, that kind of speaks a lot about her character. What happened to her was evil, but she was no saint.
They mention in this article 4 times about Donald Trump and Maralago. Its almost like they are putting the blame on him because she was trafficked.
In 2019 the UK current affairs documentary series Dispatches did an episode on Epstein and Prince Andrew called The Prince & The Paedophile
Donald Trump and Melania Trump were the only figures from American politics and business featured in the episode. No Clintons, no Obamas, no Bidens, no Bushs, no Gates, no Bransons, no Winfreys, nobody else. Just Trump.
Color me shocked! Shocked! I tell you.
Faggots.
False attribution.
she was hit by a bus and has only 4 days to live. Yet she was able to post this information to social media.
A ruined kidney does not mean the rest of her is ruined. My brother nearly died from kidney failure, but he did not lose his mind or his job.
odd timing isnt it????????
Here's something I find really strange, and honestly extremely stupid...
Ok. Ms Giuffre is seen in the famous picture with Prince Andrew, says they had sex, goes to court and specifically accuses him (and lots of other stuff happened as well). What in the world is she doing living in a Commonwealth country? King Sausage Fingers is the reigning monarch and Andrew is his brother... Seems like she could be easily reached in Australia.
What would honestly be the difference between getting her in the US and Australia? It's not like murders don't happen in the US.
President Trump said April 2nd is "Liberation Day"
And the old "hit by a bus"...
There is no logical cause-and-effect relationship between getting hit by a bus and kidney failure.
Death in hospitals caused by kidney failure is common because they put people on medicines that destroy the kidneys and the hospitals don't give people adequate hydration. We saw that happen a lot in hospitals during the COVID genocide. In some cases it may just be negligence but in many cases it's intentional.
This is a way they can ensure that if getting "hit by a bus" doesn't kill you, the kidney failure will.
Virginia's situation is either murder or witness protection.
Time will tell.
Show a single example of the old hit by a bus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
In Virginia's circumstances, it applies to compromising information she knows about people in positions of power.
That's not given an example.
She has spoken to prosecutors and testified many times.
This post seems to be about her upcoming divorce and that is why w She is asking to see the kids
110 km is about 68 mph. I find it interesting that the dailymail article doesn't show any photos of the wreck. She was supposedly hit by a school bus! The article says "It is not known where or when the crash happened.". Really - they don't know where or when the crash happened? So the article is really short on details isn't it. Sorry - 72 hour rule for this one!
The whole article is based on a social media post by VG. We have nothing else to go on. Everything beyond that is speculation. And the one speculation is that she is lying. And this is why we don't have details about the crash.
Thanks! You made my point. We don't have details about the crash.
Right. Because the article is not about the crash. The article is about the post she made.
See my other posts. There have been some additional articles. Daily Mail has talked to her father who said yes she was in a crash. He is getting details from her brother, his son. I don't think the father was in the daughter's life recently.
Her representative also talked to the Daily Mail and confirmed this.
I also lay out some speculation in a recent comment with a timeline that may change how we think about this.
I actually did locate a local Australian news article that is possibly the crash. Some details match up some don't. Some details match up some don't
Thanks! I enjoy reading Daily Mail articles. Any idea how reliable a source it is? I really don't know.
I think they're super gossipy. They love to focus on scandal. I think they get the basic facts right but they often include a ton of other speculation or hype. So people end up using their articles for all sorts of stuff.
They are often a source of us stories, because it's much harder to sue a newspaper for libel in the UK than it is in the US. So people leak stuff to the Daily Mail but they won't tell US media because they would wind up in court.
It has a vastly better reputation than a lot of stuff that appears on here. See the YouTube guy claiming there's a document released saying Hitler went to Argentina. Total 100% nonsense
Thanks! Appreciate the response. I think now this Virginia G story has entered the public consciousness. I first heard about the story from my wife early this morning.
What wreck? There's a wreck if two vehicles collide, not a vehicle hitting a person.
Read the article - in her post (part of the article) she definitely indicated she was in a car.
4 days?
That's incredibly oddly specific.
This can't be real
People have been given shorter times to live. My brother nearly died overnight, from being discovered unconscious from kidney failure. He barely survived. You have to realize that a medical trauma guesstimate is not a guarantee. It could be 3. It could be 6.
I don't know where the total lack of compassion comes from. I've noticed on this page that when some God-awful disaster happens to someone, the rapid reaction is "Aw, this is fake. It's not real. It's not happening."---and therefore we don't need to entertain any human feeling for someone in misery. Not everything is a lie.
They are trying to send a warning.
Or maybe she will fake her death and then enter the witness protection program. Just a possibility......
And along that line of reasoning, she could have gotten divorced to detach from her husband in order to help him stay safe.
I don't think that would matter.
Yea. Maybe not. I would give it a try, just in case it worked.
I've been in the hospital multiple times....accidents, illnesses, surgeries etc and NEVER was I allowed to wear my jewelry! Just an observation... thoughts?
Exactly, IMHO this photo of her is completely staged and it's way too obvious. Her hair nicely brushed, when you are in the hospital for even one day your hair looks like absolute shit.
She's being removed to be put into protection. She most likely wouldn't be laying on her side either especially with "imminent kidney failure."
Nice makeup job, looks somewhat convincing but no puffy swelling around the bruises.
Fake and very gay!
This doesn't make sense either. Tons of people have been put into witness protection, how many have been given a bizarre cover story with a staged photo? Usually they just leave and are gone. We shall see if she keeps posting from social media. If she does, she's not in witness protection
When was the photo taken? Just after she was brought in by ambulance, when they wouldn't yet have had time to mess with her close personal items?
Welcome to witness protection program. Sorry, this looks staged.
Since "staged" means to make it look as real as possible, it is inevitable that the real thing will, by definition, "look staged." So, lay out all the reasons why this could not be the real thing, if you please. That complete absence of expression on her face is pretty convincing to me that it is real. You don't get to that without being overwhelmed and drained.
What an odd thing to say.
OmgWhat the Fuck... And what's with the sticker We are the news.. It should have been THESE PEOPLE ARE SICK AND NEED TO BURN IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!
This timeline is freaking wild!!!!!
No way she would know she would be dead in four days.....unless she commits suicide.
A person can be in kidney failure for many days and then unconscious in coma for unknown period of time with organ failure. She does not die until until heart gives out and she stops breathing.
My guess something else is going on.
If the doctor tells you that, what are you supposed to think? Are you a doctor? Have you assessed her injuries and overall condition, including blood panels?
Doctors as a rule never give you an exact day you will die unless it is scheduled. You can not outguess God. They will warn families that death is imminent.
I am a RN with 51 years experience in all levels of patient care and that comment " i will be dead in four days" is most concerning.
I am not always impressed with doctors, especially any who might have inherited their approach from the UK NIH. And I am certainly not certifying what any doctor said to her. But she was not a doctor, and that is what she remembers being told. What is she supposed to do with that? As I said, my brother died overnight from something that no one saw coming, so I am far from trying to outguess God. But I thoroughly agree that a fatal prediction of 4 days is "most concerning." That would be an understatement.
The photo does not look like someone who is on their deathbed. It looks like she may have been battered. Did she go into witness protection I have to wonder.
And you are an expert on what people look like on their deathbed? To me, it looks like people are expected to look like when they are rammed in the face by an air bag. My brother had kidney failure and had to be on dialysis twice a week, without which he would have been dead. He was still able to hold down his job. We were in the process of repairing a long period of estrangement. Didn't look like he was on his deathbed. Until he died one night in his sleep from heart failure.
There is nothing strange about a victim of a rich and powerful person's sex crime getting murdered.
It looks like make up
It's April 1st in Australia.
Let's not forget about the SCHOOL BUS with a message for Prince Andrew 5 years ago. 👀
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/21/lawyer-epstein-victims-prince-andrew-school-bus-buckingham-palace-fbi#:~:text=US%20lawyer%20Gloria%20Allred%20arranged%20for%20bus,past%20Buckingham%20Palace%20with%20message%20for%20prince.
Her hair looks like it was recently washed and is still fluffy. That is odd...
I would expect a person with that much bruising to have dirty messy hair.
Are the "bruises" actually makeup?
In my perfect world, the White Hats would go fetch her and get her whatever medical care she needs, to then get her into witness protection. Why that part hasn't already happened, I have no clue.
That's the problem - we have NO way of knowing whether the White Hats have fetched her to protect her or not.
Clue: your perfect world does not exist. I think they are prioritizing her not dying. If this is Australia, it may get no better than that.
this has to be comms of some kind. What is she saying?
There was a school bus with a message 5 years ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/21/lawyer-epstein-victims-prince-andrew-school-bus-buckingham-palace-fbi#:~:text=US%20lawyer%20Gloria%20Allred%20arranged%20for%20bus,past%20Buckingham%20Palace%20with%20message%20for%20prince.
Wow - "I got hit by a school bus" - she's been seriously threatened and is going into witness protection, is how I'm taking this. Thanks for posting the article.
Someone else pointed out that bruises come with swelling....
Lead in to Wit-Sec before shtf....
Daily Mail has more info up
Photo of who was driving the bus:
https://media.gettyimages.com/id/97346050/photo/presidential-candidate-hillary-clinton-sits-in-a-new-car-off.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=gi&k=20&c=rZ0UpUkyrM9BQS7JY9yM_S1qOstWlvlH5BxgdMUub3Y=