Crazy. When I read the header, before opening, my first thought was "an angel". To see that be the highest comment sent a burst of warmth through my heart. No shit. It was a weird feeling.
What kind of idiotic comparison, this is not an ' everyday visit ' or thing, this is a bioweapon, we are in fucking war, wake up.
Think if someone in your family went there to take the jab (THAT IS A BIOWEAPON NOT A REGOULAR VAX! AND THEY DON'T KNOW THIS.) and you got afraid for his/her life, only after a while, when people starts to drop around, you get to know that person has been injected with a placebo and it's safe
Well quit shilling if you don't want to be called one. Your comparison is retarded and so are you. "Boo hoo they didn't inject them with the poison they wanted". Maybe they were happy because they didn't want to be forced to vax. I wish this would happen for the people i know they want to force take it.
You claim the difference is 'informed consent' which I agree with you. The problem is the are not getting informed consent when it comes to the jab, at ALL. It's saline, not mRNA jab with God knows what's in it. When the truth comes out she will be a hero.
doctors are telling people they're getting a vaccine but giving an experimental gene therapy instead, I'm not sure how this is different from your example.. are you agreeing with us?
Informed consent is different from deceiving a patient. The bait and switch is what I have a problem with. Instead if she had provided the patients information about the vaccine and allowed them to make up their own mind, I would not have a problem. The deception is the issue.
can you really give informed consent if you have a family to support and your job or government requires injecting unknown substances into your body to keep that job? I don't think so, and big pharma doesn't disclose or have liability. the problem with your analogy is saline is 100% proven to be safe, and used as a placebo. Removing a kidney is obviously not, nor are experimental drugs.
Big pharma has not given information to people such that they can make an informed decision. I agree with you on that. People that are more or less being forced to choose between their job and their health freedom have been placed in a terrible position, everyone should have the choice.
The saline is safe, yes, but it was not what the patients agreed to be injected with. Its a moral issue. Am issue of deceiving someone whom you are supposed to trust. If I go to get a tetanus shot and they give me a flu vaccine instead, I'd be pretty angry, it was not what I asked for. This is my issue, not that the saline was safe or not, but that she deceived her patients.
When this goes to the court, the nurse will be able to defend herself, by asking what exactly is in this vaccine (not a vaccine). Informed consent works both ways.
This is akin to someone telling Jews when entering the showers its only a shower. As opposed to telling the, its only a shower when in fact its a gas chamber that will lead to certain death. We are at war, and this nurse gets it.
So because they won't know the difference, it doesn't matter that they were decieved? If someone lies to me, I need to know, so that I do not trust that person any longer. I refuse to not learn from mistakes.
You can justify this saying we are at war and all options should be on the table, but we are talking about our fellow human beings. We are supposed to be coming together, not deceiving. How do you think these people will view this nurse and people like us after they find out they were deceived. Do you think they will now have any chance to be convinced to come to our side? (yes j know they probably wouldn't since they were already getting the shot, but what if the nurse had given them jnfo or warnings ahead of giving the shot, rather than just deceiving them?)
Why would she as a nurse be obliged to build trust in big pharma. Her oath is not to big pharma. Her oath is to not harming people but helping them.
Putting a needle in an arm and administer a solution with:
Gene therapie
Graphen Oxyde
aadjuvants like SM102 that should NOT EVER NEVER be injected into a marine environment. And our bodies ARE a marine environment!
is causing harm.
Are you with the program?
S-1 cannot die in the body. It will amass. And cause problems down the line.
Quite sure: you would simply do the job. She made a statement. I am sure she will pay for it. But ... her statement will further bring the message out.
Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant the Healthcare industry, not big pharma.
Think about the patients. Do you believe they will be able to be convinced to come to our side after being deceived? This will drive them away from us, make us not trustworthy. This is my issue.
It does not deserve public trust. As an example, we now have MILLIONS of autistic kids in America, whose lives were RUINED by having poisonous vaccines administered to them. Puh-leez!!
I don't want to be attacked bringing this up, but I think the vaccine/autism link is overblown. I am not going to sit here and say I know that for sure because I don't, but I think it is more hereditary than it is caused by poisoning.
Two things to consider :
1> Why autism? Those on the mid-to-high functioning end of the spectrum grow to be more independent. That alone makes them less likely to be corrupted by the DS and are much harder to handle as adults. I can't see an army of autists being something the DS wants.
2> They didn't start tracking all of the various shades of the autistic spectrum until relatively recently.
My son is autistic. He's fine overall. His speech was delayed and he still has a couple of issues, but he's getting better every day. He was diagnosed as high functioning. I am almost 100% sure I would have been put on the spectrum myself had I been born later. Looking back I can identify many traits my son has. I'm pretty sure my dad would have been on the spectrum as well.
My son was vaccinated like I was. He was the exact same as he was before the shots. I have read the cases where parents claim their kids were different after the shots (I'd call them jabs, but I don't want to confuse anyone :-) ). I won't discount them ... after seeing the DS in action, I won't be surprised if they're screwing with kids via vaccines.
That being said, I don't think these standard vaccines are causing autism. Autism seems to be related to the way the brain develops ... it's as if the program responsible for brain development executes differently than those that would be called "normal". In many cases, it doesn't seem to be linked to brain damage ... I'd think that a jab that causes autism would result in some kind of damage to the brain.
I think if the DS is screwing with vaccines, it is to do pretty much what we are seeing today ... taking exotic "therapies" and testing them out in the real world with no regard for life. There are BILLIONS of dollars to be made with various shots/jabs. I'm sure the sick pricks that come up with "mandatory" ones get an extra special reward that would drive them to do sneaky shit to get feedback on their poison.
I am not some shill trying to change your mind for whatever it's worth. I'm just pointing out what I've learned and experienced ever since my son was diagnosed. I may very well be wrong of course ... it wouldn't be the first time :-) ... and I certainly encourage you to remain skeptical of anything I posted ... I just can't see that vaccine/autism link myself, but I'll certainly pay close attention to any developments.
I am not advocating vaccines. I agree they are very risky. Again the issue I have is with deception. People were told by someone they trust that they would do one thing, when they ended up doing another. Deception is evil. Information is power.
Ah yes devolving into name calling. The mark of a solid argument....
Do you even know what forum sliding is? Cause this ain't it. Thisnis called a discussion. If I was forum sliding, I would make multiple posts, not comments, to take other posts out of users view.
The thing about placebos is you're not supposed to know you get them. The whole vaccine is an experiment so they need to use placebos. This was probably planned and she was thrown under the bus to cover up the mass human trials currently happening. If they volunteer to be part of the vaccine experiment then by extension they volunteer for the potential for a placebo.
I agree this is one big experiment that none of us really consented to. That said, in a double blind trial, as part of the waivers, you are informed there will be placebos. There was no information to that effect in this experiment.
I don't think she's being thrown under the bus to cover up mass human trials. She will likely land in hot water though.
I thought we were the control group? Those that choose not to take a vaccine at all.
Just think for a second. This nurse is deceiving her patients. That is evil for someone we are supposed to be able to put faith in. She should have given the patients informed consent via information rather than making the decision for them, without informing them, its wrong to deceive.
So CDC, WHO, Fauci, Birx and governments around the world can conspire to kill us all and YOU have a problem with a nurse DOING NO HARM? You are a grade a fucking idiot.
You just listed a bunch of things we can't trust. Yet when someone is deceptive in what they are doing, this is ok? Sounds like rules for thee but not for me. It doesn't matter if the intention is good, or bad. Deception is evil, especially from people we are meant to trust.
Apply this logic to a Nazi soldier that is supposed to lead a Jewish child to a gas chamber. Is he less trustworthy if allows the child to break free and run to safety? The child doesn't really have an idea of what is about to happen to him/her. They just get to live another day. Is that so bad? Especially now that world is finally waking up to knowledge that pedes here have known for months: the vaxx is at best life with a compromised immune system and at worst a death sentence.
I am all for saving lives, just not by way of deception. Further, these patients who have been deceived, will likely never come to our side now, since in their eyes we are untrustworthy.
So is it bad what she did, maybe not if someone is saved, but is it morally wrong to deceive, even for the right reason? I say yes.
She didn't deceive shot. Tjey all got the shot. They we uninformed and deceived way before she saved their lives. So either way she would have gave a shot without informed consent. U don't seem to understand people taking the shot believe wrongly it will help them. There is no informed consent among any vaxxed. It's the very deception you speak of and you would be thanking her if it was you she saved.
With this same logic, pharmacists would be able to give us placebo pills instead of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine because “the scientific consensus” says these pills are dangerous.
I don’t know what I would have done in her position, but it’s wrong to lie about what medical care people are receiving.
Exactly, we are at war and that shit is a weapon, everyday medicine it's gone, now you have to be afraid of the opposite, you risk to get jabbed with the weapon just for going in the hospital, without your consent or knowledge
It doesn't matter if it is effective or not. People are allowed to choose and make choices. If they make a choice for a procedure, they should expect to get it, not some other procedure or medicine they had no idea they were going to receive, in a bait and switch. Especially by deception like in this case. It is the definition of criminal in regards to medical procedures.
It's not a question of effectiveness, it's a question of safety. People's lives are on the line.
The "choice" that people make with regard to the vaccine is the direct result of the kind of deception you are taking a moral stand against. People are being brainwashed with propaganda and fear tactics into requesting a mystery fluid.
While I generally agree with you, the deception is really the thing that bothers me. We cannot lose trust in our fellow humans, we are supposed to come together, events like these do nothing towards this goal.
SO if you go to the doctors to have your gallbladder out and the doctor also plans on taking your kidney out with it but a nurse steps in and declares you sick and the whole operation gets cancelled, would you be upset?
You say these people agree to have this shot, but did they? They agreed to have a covid vaccine, but if the shot is something else besides a vaccine against covid, then are they really agreeing to that? If they agree to a shot that has poison in it without knowing it is poison and a nurse stops that, did she help or did you get denied a covid vaccine shot?
If they canceled the operation and told me why, then I would not be upset. If they didn't give me info as to why, then sure I would.
Informed consent is not really what I am arguing about. Obviously the shot is dangerous in the short and long term, and if people were informed properly they probably wouldn't get it. But that doesn't mean someone else should be able to make unilateral decisions about your health without informing you.
Yeah, I think I see where you're coming from. The idea of using deception to fight deception rubs me the wrong way - it's the slipperiest of slopes.
In this particular instance, though, people specifically ask to get injected with an unknown solution. That's what this nurse gave them.
There's a reason vaccines are supposed to undergo years of study and observation before hitting the market. This "vaccine" is about as unethical as it gets and we have no idea what it's going to do to people.
Doctors should lose their license over administering this stuff. Maybe if the side of good prevails, they will.
I'm curious, what would you have done in this nurse's position? Quitting the job is an option, but it doesn't save any lives.
I liked another user's idea of giving information to the patient prior to giving the shot. This is what is supposed to happen anyways, informed consent. Then when the patient has all information available, they can make an informed decision.
I can understand the cynicism. I feel the same way about how big tech has corrupted technology to use it against us.
I don't think we should just throw it all away because of some bad apples like for profit big pharma, or the same in tech. We just need new better solutions. Like in tech blockchain, and distributed or non centralized networks are great evolutions in wresting away centralized control. Same with bitcoin. Hopefully we will have better Healthcare options in the future.
I can understand why you are upset about the deception. But, what institution can we really trust? The elite has so much control. I can also be happy that that she saved lives. Since, I don't live in Germany and don't know if they told the people what harm may come to them. We all have been censored trying to share how harmful the Vax can be. There have not been studies on the long term effects from the jab. That is why most vaxs need 5 years to have the data.
The medical industry foisting harmful "vaccines" on millions because they are funded by big pharma has already obliterated any trust. Not injecting literal blood-clotting poison into your bloodstream deserves jail? Get the fuck out, Biden dick sucker.
If I was grossly uninformed and a Robin Hood style nurse (aware of the jab’s dangers, as all of us here are) did this for me, I would be eternally grateful.
That is a repeat of your previously espoused view. So be it. I do not agree.
Everybody has to decide for themselves what they will do in any given circumstance. She DID something!
What have you done that compares?
Perhaps you want to read up on what people have done to resist an occupying power?
In my country, some people falsified cards so as to obtain food to help people escape, or help stowed away wanted people to make it through. Other, falsified papers, stole from the enemy. Others sabotaged factories, railways, bridges, or delivered food by not registering it in a ledger.
this isnt good actually because now they will use this to clamp down and say THIS is why "vaxxed" people are spreading it because "right wing conspiracy activists" have infiltrated nursing and are sabotaging everything.
This isnt good for the awakening project because we need normies to see the vax operating as they should yet totally not working without interference.
So according to the European Vaccine adverse event reporting system, 0.2% of people have a bad reaction after getting the jab. 0.2% = 1 in 500.
0.002 * 8600 = So she saved 17 people from having a bad reaction.
The chance of death is 1 in 19,000, so there is some chance that she saved someone's life. Maybe in 1 in 3 chance that she saved somebody's life.
We don't know the average age of the people she jabbed with saline, so we cannot make a good guess as the to the risk of those people from Covid-19. But it is a safe bet it is well below the risk that the vaccine imparts.
Science:
Sure:
0.2% of people in Europe who got the jab had an adverse reaction reported.
THIS is the backbone of the resistance. Hardliners here would call her 'weak' and she 'deserves what she gets.' Because she is letting people fly under the radar instead of boldly standing up and screaming at our wannabe overlord's faces "WE WILL NOT COMPLY."
Guess what? 8600 people aren't complying, thanks to this nurse.
Severe price-paying for declining to help murder people. I would have probably quit the job instead. But not knowing her circumstances, nothing is accomplished by passing judgement on her. Quite a nice time-waster.
She saved lives. But what if it's a faked news story so they can convince the idiots to go back and get their second jab. Nobody will know if they were part of it.
An angel, sadly to think what she will face for saving so many lives :(
Yes...we need more like her. Maybe the ones who were called have vaccine regret and now can cry tears of joy!
Perhaps they had added vigor in their virtue signal dances being they could Court their audience with superior health
omg she injected them all with an inert placebo. the horror!
Crazy. When I read the header, before opening, my first thought was "an angel". To see that be the highest comment sent a burst of warmth through my heart. No shit. It was a weird feeling.
Next time you are at the doctor's, maybe they will remove a kidney without asking you? How would you feel?
What kind of idiotic comparison, this is not an ' everyday visit ' or thing, this is a bioweapon, we are in fucking war, wake up.
Think if someone in your family went there to take the jab (THAT IS A BIOWEAPON NOT A REGOULAR VAX! AND THEY DON'T KNOW THIS.) and you got afraid for his/her life, only after a while, when people starts to drop around, you get to know that person has been injected with a placebo and it's safe
.
I won't even waste time to give you an answer, DFTT/S
That guy's an obvious shill. Comparing non consenting organ harvesting to effectively a placebo.
Well quit shilling if you don't want to be called one. Your comparison is retarded and so are you. "Boo hoo they didn't inject them with the poison they wanted". Maybe they were happy because they didn't want to be forced to vax. I wish this would happen for the people i know they want to force take it.
You claim the difference is 'informed consent' which I agree with you. The problem is the are not getting informed consent when it comes to the jab, at ALL. It's saline, not mRNA jab with God knows what's in it. When the truth comes out she will be a hero.
Fuck off your comparison doesn't make sense.
It is called resistance! People who know the science and not the media propaganda will praise her!
What is DTFF?
doctors are telling people they're getting a vaccine but giving an experimental gene therapy instead, I'm not sure how this is different from your example.. are you agreeing with us?
Informed consent is different from deceiving a patient. The bait and switch is what I have a problem with. Instead if she had provided the patients information about the vaccine and allowed them to make up their own mind, I would not have a problem. The deception is the issue.
can you really give informed consent if you have a family to support and your job or government requires injecting unknown substances into your body to keep that job? I don't think so, and big pharma doesn't disclose or have liability. the problem with your analogy is saline is 100% proven to be safe, and used as a placebo. Removing a kidney is obviously not, nor are experimental drugs.
Big pharma has not given information to people such that they can make an informed decision. I agree with you on that. People that are more or less being forced to choose between their job and their health freedom have been placed in a terrible position, everyone should have the choice.
The saline is safe, yes, but it was not what the patients agreed to be injected with. Its a moral issue. Am issue of deceiving someone whom you are supposed to trust. If I go to get a tetanus shot and they give me a flu vaccine instead, I'd be pretty angry, it was not what I asked for. This is my issue, not that the saline was safe or not, but that she deceived her patients.
When this goes to the court, the nurse will be able to defend herself, by asking what exactly is in this vaccine (not a vaccine). Informed consent works both ways.
This is akin to someone telling Jews when entering the showers its only a shower. As opposed to telling the, its only a shower when in fact its a gas chamber that will lead to certain death. We are at war, and this nurse gets it.
Exactly. Great comparison.
The deception came from the ones who created the gene therapy and then called it a vaccine. THEY are the guilty ones.
Agree with those here that she is a hero, but once again, this is not “gene therapy”
True. It's graphene oxide poisoning.
I absolutely agree with this statement.
war is war bro
i commend this hero.
none of these people will even know the difference since apparently vaccinated people catch "covid" just the same as anyone else.
The vaxxed make the covid. Util the Vax there was NO covid. It was all psyops.
So because they won't know the difference, it doesn't matter that they were decieved? If someone lies to me, I need to know, so that I do not trust that person any longer. I refuse to not learn from mistakes.
You can justify this saying we are at war and all options should be on the table, but we are talking about our fellow human beings. We are supposed to be coming together, not deceiving. How do you think these people will view this nurse and people like us after they find out they were deceived. Do you think they will now have any chance to be convinced to come to our side? (yes j know they probably wouldn't since they were already getting the shot, but what if the nurse had given them jnfo or warnings ahead of giving the shot, rather than just deceiving them?)
You are seriously stupid. She saved their lives. Fuck off until you can think logically.
Yes she saved lives, while doing nothing to build trust in an industry that will soon loose all public trust.
Huh?
Why would she as a nurse be obliged to build trust in big pharma. Her oath is not to big pharma. Her oath is to not harming people but helping them.
Putting a needle in an arm and administer a solution with:
is causing harm.
Are you with the program?
S-1 cannot die in the body. It will amass. And cause problems down the line.
Quite sure: you would simply do the job. She made a statement. I am sure she will pay for it. But ... her statement will further bring the message out.
It's one of the bravest things I've seen anyone do during g this entire bullshit.
Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant the Healthcare industry, not big pharma.
Think about the patients. Do you believe they will be able to be convinced to come to our side after being deceived? This will drive them away from us, make us not trustworthy. This is my issue.
It does not deserve public trust. As an example, we now have MILLIONS of autistic kids in America, whose lives were RUINED by having poisonous vaccines administered to them. Puh-leez!!
I don't want to be attacked bringing this up, but I think the vaccine/autism link is overblown. I am not going to sit here and say I know that for sure because I don't, but I think it is more hereditary than it is caused by poisoning.
Two things to consider :
1> Why autism? Those on the mid-to-high functioning end of the spectrum grow to be more independent. That alone makes them less likely to be corrupted by the DS and are much harder to handle as adults. I can't see an army of autists being something the DS wants.
2> They didn't start tracking all of the various shades of the autistic spectrum until relatively recently.
My son is autistic. He's fine overall. His speech was delayed and he still has a couple of issues, but he's getting better every day. He was diagnosed as high functioning. I am almost 100% sure I would have been put on the spectrum myself had I been born later. Looking back I can identify many traits my son has. I'm pretty sure my dad would have been on the spectrum as well.
My son was vaccinated like I was. He was the exact same as he was before the shots. I have read the cases where parents claim their kids were different after the shots (I'd call them jabs, but I don't want to confuse anyone :-) ). I won't discount them ... after seeing the DS in action, I won't be surprised if they're screwing with kids via vaccines.
That being said, I don't think these standard vaccines are causing autism. Autism seems to be related to the way the brain develops ... it's as if the program responsible for brain development executes differently than those that would be called "normal". In many cases, it doesn't seem to be linked to brain damage ... I'd think that a jab that causes autism would result in some kind of damage to the brain.
I think if the DS is screwing with vaccines, it is to do pretty much what we are seeing today ... taking exotic "therapies" and testing them out in the real world with no regard for life. There are BILLIONS of dollars to be made with various shots/jabs. I'm sure the sick pricks that come up with "mandatory" ones get an extra special reward that would drive them to do sneaky shit to get feedback on their poison.
I am not some shill trying to change your mind for whatever it's worth. I'm just pointing out what I've learned and experienced ever since my son was diagnosed. I may very well be wrong of course ... it wouldn't be the first time :-) ... and I certainly encourage you to remain skeptical of anything I posted ... I just can't see that vaccine/autism link myself, but I'll certainly pay close attention to any developments.
I am not advocating vaccines. I agree they are very risky. Again the issue I have is with deception. People were told by someone they trust that they would do one thing, when they ended up doing another. Deception is evil. Information is power.
It doesn't deserve our trust. It's evil through and through. NOW FUCK OFF TROLL. ENOUGH FORUM SLIDING.
Ah yes devolving into name calling. The mark of a solid argument....
Do you even know what forum sliding is? Cause this ain't it. Thisnis called a discussion. If I was forum sliding, I would make multiple posts, not comments, to take other posts out of users view.
Placebos exist
So do patients rights.
The thing about placebos is you're not supposed to know you get them. The whole vaccine is an experiment so they need to use placebos. This was probably planned and she was thrown under the bus to cover up the mass human trials currently happening. If they volunteer to be part of the vaccine experiment then by extension they volunteer for the potential for a placebo.
I agree this is one big experiment that none of us really consented to. That said, in a double blind trial, as part of the waivers, you are informed there will be placebos. There was no information to that effect in this experiment.
I don't think she's being thrown under the bus to cover up mass human trials. She will likely land in hot water though.
I thought we were the control group? Those that choose not to take a vaccine at all.
Oh yeah! A genocidal jab!
What part of bio-weapon do you not understand? She saved a lot of lives by giving them saline instead of the death serum.
Taking my kidney versus not giving me poison. You may want to re think your bias.
People downvoting but I actually agree.
If she didn't want to actually administer the treatment she should have openly refused in protest or quit.
Administering things without telling people is wrong. That's what this whole shit is about, isn't it?
The other thing is that it fucks up the stats.
And, if people went there to get the vax, they'll just go get it again anyway.
I think her intentions were purest, but that doesn't change that what she did was a mistake.
Don't be be a faggot
Wow. Nice.
Don't be a faggot, please?
Just think for a second. This nurse is deceiving her patients. That is evil for someone we are supposed to be able to put faith in. She should have given the patients informed consent via information rather than making the decision for them, without informing them, its wrong to deceive.
So CDC, WHO, Fauci, Birx and governments around the world can conspire to kill us all and YOU have a problem with a nurse DOING NO HARM? You are a grade a fucking idiot.
You just listed a bunch of things we can't trust. Yet when someone is deceptive in what they are doing, this is ok? Sounds like rules for thee but not for me. It doesn't matter if the intention is good, or bad. Deception is evil, especially from people we are meant to trust.
no downdoot for you.
Apply this logic to a Nazi soldier that is supposed to lead a Jewish child to a gas chamber. Is he less trustworthy if allows the child to break free and run to safety? The child doesn't really have an idea of what is about to happen to him/her. They just get to live another day. Is that so bad? Especially now that world is finally waking up to knowledge that pedes here have known for months: the vaxx is at best life with a compromised immune system and at worst a death sentence.
I am all for saving lives, just not by way of deception. Further, these patients who have been deceived, will likely never come to our side now, since in their eyes we are untrustworthy.
So is it bad what she did, maybe not if someone is saved, but is it morally wrong to deceive, even for the right reason? I say yes.
She didn't deceive shot. Tjey all got the shot. They we uninformed and deceived way before she saved their lives. So either way she would have gave a shot without informed consent. U don't seem to understand people taking the shot believe wrongly it will help them. There is no informed consent among any vaxxed. It's the very deception you speak of and you would be thanking her if it was you she saved.
not just gene therapy, mRNA with animal cells that we are not supposed to have injected into our blood stream.
So do I, I agree with you, but the deception is what I have a problem with.
Love you too
I agree with you.
With this same logic, pharmacists would be able to give us placebo pills instead of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine because “the scientific consensus” says these pills are dangerous.
I don’t know what I would have done in her position, but it’s wrong to lie about what medical care people are receiving.
Sometimes hero’s don’t wear capes. God bless her.
She deserves a statue.
The vaccine doesn't do what the medical industry says it is going to do. You can't trust your doctor either way.
If I, as a patient, request to be injected with an unknown, experimental solution, I'd rather it be saline than venom.
Exactly, we are at war and that shit is a weapon, everyday medicine it's gone, now you have to be afraid of the opposite, you risk to get jabbed with the weapon just for going in the hospital, without your consent or knowledge
It doesn't matter if it is effective or not. People are allowed to choose and make choices. If they make a choice for a procedure, they should expect to get it, not some other procedure or medicine they had no idea they were going to receive, in a bait and switch. Especially by deception like in this case. It is the definition of criminal in regards to medical procedures.
It's not a question of effectiveness, it's a question of safety. People's lives are on the line.
The "choice" that people make with regard to the vaccine is the direct result of the kind of deception you are taking a moral stand against. People are being brainwashed with propaganda and fear tactics into requesting a mystery fluid.
Some of them, thank god, got saline.
While I generally agree with you, the deception is really the thing that bothers me. We cannot lose trust in our fellow humans, we are supposed to come together, events like these do nothing towards this goal.
SO if you go to the doctors to have your gallbladder out and the doctor also plans on taking your kidney out with it but a nurse steps in and declares you sick and the whole operation gets cancelled, would you be upset?
You say these people agree to have this shot, but did they? They agreed to have a covid vaccine, but if the shot is something else besides a vaccine against covid, then are they really agreeing to that? If they agree to a shot that has poison in it without knowing it is poison and a nurse stops that, did she help or did you get denied a covid vaccine shot?
If they canceled the operation and told me why, then I would not be upset. If they didn't give me info as to why, then sure I would.
Informed consent is not really what I am arguing about. Obviously the shot is dangerous in the short and long term, and if people were informed properly they probably wouldn't get it. But that doesn't mean someone else should be able to make unilateral decisions about your health without informing you.
Yeah, I think I see where you're coming from. The idea of using deception to fight deception rubs me the wrong way - it's the slipperiest of slopes.
In this particular instance, though, people specifically ask to get injected with an unknown solution. That's what this nurse gave them.
There's a reason vaccines are supposed to undergo years of study and observation before hitting the market. This "vaccine" is about as unethical as it gets and we have no idea what it's going to do to people.
Doctors should lose their license over administering this stuff. Maybe if the side of good prevails, they will.
I'm curious, what would you have done in this nurse's position? Quitting the job is an option, but it doesn't save any lives.
I liked another user's idea of giving information to the patient prior to giving the shot. This is what is supposed to happen anyways, informed consent. Then when the patient has all information available, they can make an informed decision.
I don’t care how much I’m lied to, as long as she saves my life.
While I see your point, I think when the patients find out what happened, this event will push them away from our side not bring them closer.
We are supposed to be fighting to bring people over.
We are suppose to be saving lives.
Such sophistication.... you must be fun at parties....
well you already cant. the healthcare industry is corrupt.
unless you're need some kind of emergency surgery nobody should be participating in the healthcare industry.
I can understand the cynicism. I feel the same way about how big tech has corrupted technology to use it against us.
I don't think we should just throw it all away because of some bad apples like for profit big pharma, or the same in tech. We just need new better solutions. Like in tech blockchain, and distributed or non centralized networks are great evolutions in wresting away centralized control. Same with bitcoin. Hopefully we will have better Healthcare options in the future.
I can understand why you are upset about the deception. But, what institution can we really trust? The elite has so much control. I can also be happy that that she saved lives. Since, I don't live in Germany and don't know if they told the people what harm may come to them. We all have been censored trying to share how harmful the Vax can be. There have not been studies on the long term effects from the jab. That is why most vaxs need 5 years to have the data.
You’re not wrong. She could have just quit.
The medical industry foisting harmful "vaccines" on millions because they are funded by big pharma has already obliterated any trust. Not injecting literal blood-clotting poison into your bloodstream deserves jail? Get the fuck out, Biden dick sucker.
saved MANY lives
Imagine being given a second chance, a reprieve. Wow.
Are they going to force all those people to retake the jab? Was this only for the first/ second dose?
Hero
How much do you get paid to shill?
Damn you are doing this for free? That sucks
Yes it does.
Huh, Do No Harm.
Guilty and a one dollar fine, Bless your heart Nurse.
https://files.catbox.moe/d00lrj.jpg
This was harmless. As is Covid.
No, it wasn't.
Piece of shit
NPC
I hope you get the real shot.
You don't need it, you are already toxic.
Yup. I've got plenty more venom where that came from pussy.
No I don't. You still think communist have rules. You still think your overlords will play fair if you do. Good luck, lol.
Yes exactly! We should not be celebrating this!
If I was grossly uninformed and a Robin Hood style nurse (aware of the jab’s dangers, as all of us here are) did this for me, I would be eternally grateful.
That's great! But I fear the majority of normies would not share your opinion.
Yes she saved people from death, maybe. But did nothing to help our movement in the eyes of the patients that were deceived.
Example 1 would be highly problematic. Horrifying actually.
Example 2 is fine... I'm not sure I trust what's contained in any vaccines anymore anyway, after what is happening right now tbph.
Take the salient point of people being pushed to take the vaxx.
This is typically deepstate. Nonono, there is no mandate, but ....
You will lose your job, cannot enter supermarkets, go out for dinner, or a theater or you cannot travel.
Germany is a hell hole at this point.
She stopped being compliant and putting a keg in wheels. Given their background, it is the only correct thing to do.
That is a repeat of your previously espoused view. So be it. I do not agree.
Everybody has to decide for themselves what they will do in any given circumstance. She DID something!
What have you done that compares?
Perhaps you want to read up on what people have done to resist an occupying power?
In my country, some people falsified cards so as to obtain food to help people escape, or help stowed away wanted people to make it through. Other, falsified papers, stole from the enemy. Others sabotaged factories, railways, bridges, or delivered food by not registering it in a ledger.
I'm sure she'd be fired for doing that, in this climate..
Of course.
this isnt good actually because now they will use this to clamp down and say THIS is why "vaxxed" people are spreading it because "right wing conspiracy activists" have infiltrated nursing and are sabotaging everything.
This isnt good for the awakening project because we need normies to see the vax operating as they should yet totally not working without interference.
Easy to find who did and who did not get the jab - just do a d-dimer test and everyone without clots got the saline.
KEK
So according to the European Vaccine adverse event reporting system, 0.2% of people have a bad reaction after getting the jab. 0.2% = 1 in 500.
0.002 * 8600 = So she saved 17 people from having a bad reaction.
The chance of death is 1 in 19,000, so there is some chance that she saved someone's life. Maybe in 1 in 3 chance that she saved somebody's life.
We don't know the average age of the people she jabbed with saline, so we cannot make a good guess as the to the risk of those people from Covid-19. But it is a safe bet it is well below the risk that the vaccine imparts.
Science:
Sure:
0.2% of people in Europe who got the jab had an adverse reaction reported.
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0.2% = 1 in 500
of those 0.2%, 2.64% died.
0.0264 * .002 = 0.0000528 = 0.00528% = 1 in 18,939
Source:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/attachment/18081-suspected-cardiovascular-side-effects-of-two-covid-19-vaccines-010821-pdf/
She is a hero! Saved those people from the side effects of the genocide shot. Plus saline is as effective as the vax in preventing the coof...
Not all heros wear capes. I wish some of the people i know that they want to force the jab on would be that lucky.
Equivalent to Oskar Schindler who saved thousands of lives from the Nazis.
God bless that nurse!
Sounds like a good "control group" for what happens to non-shot people, who think they are, but arent', with people who know they aren't. :)
Yeah I was thinking where did she get over 8K shots worth of saline from if the Red Cross was not in on it.
Either it was swapped world wide when the white hats took over, or it’s the control group.
Is this just a way to get people to take the jab more than 1x??
Yep and probably most didn't catch the coof. She should be given an award for saving their lives. She listened to a higher authority, the Highest!!
BASED.
A SAINT
Quick someone give her an iron cross
She is a Hero. Plain and simple.
THIS is the backbone of the resistance. Hardliners here would call her 'weak' and she 'deserves what she gets.' Because she is letting people fly under the radar instead of boldly standing up and screaming at our wannabe overlord's faces "WE WILL NOT COMPLY."
Guess what? 8600 people aren't complying, thanks to this nurse.
I don’t think it’s fair to refer to people that don’t want the China poison shot as anti-vax. Most people are not anti-vax, but just anti this shot.
She/he is a heroine/hero. Most likely their lives were saved as a result of those actions.
I want to know who she injected... in order to know how many people lived/died.
What if it's all saline and the heart attacks and strokes are Deep State assassinations?
Bitshute ,Clif High was right. The woo series.
Severe price-paying for declining to help murder people. I would have probably quit the job instead. But not knowing her circumstances, nothing is accomplished by passing judgement on her. Quite a nice time-waster.
She saved lives. But what if it's a faked news story so they can convince the idiots to go back and get their second jab. Nobody will know if they were part of it.
This is the way.
They are going to be very happy when they find out.
I don’t believe it. It’s just a way to make people get a third shot.