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How many people here believe that Cabal was behind 9/11?
posted 4 years ago by bubble_bursts 4 years ago by bubble_bursts +1009 / -0

Last year very few people here did. I am hoping its changed now. Lets see.

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– MAGALogic 88 points 4 years ago +88 / -0

Yes the DS was behind it all. Look at how they rolled out the Patriot Act and Homeland Security while making bold claims to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. Then the event leading up to 9/11 and when it happened do not add up logically.

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– okaygroomer 41 points 4 years ago +41 / -0

Interviewer: Can you be specific about when you met Rockefeller, how it happened and these discussions?

Aaron Russo: I met Rockefeller through a female attorney I knew who called me up one day and said one of the Rockefellers would like to meet you. I’d made a video called Mad As Hell and he’d seen the video and wanted to meet me and knew I was running for Governor of Nevada. So I said sure, I’d love to meet him. And I met him and I liked him and he was a very, very smart man. And we used to talk and share ideas and thoughts and he’s the one who told me eleven months before 9/11 ever happened that there was going to be an event. He never told me what the event was going to be. But there was going to be an event and out of that event we’d invade Afghanistan, to run pack launch in the Caspian Sea, we’d invade Iraq to take over the oil fields and establish a base in the Middle East and make it all part of the New World Order, and we’d go after Chavez in Venezuela. And sure enough, later 9/11 happened and I remember he was telling me how we were going to see soldiers looking in caves for people in Afghanistan and Pakistan and all these places and there was going to be this war on terror, in which there is no real enemy, and the whole thing is a giant hoax, but it’s a way for the government to take over the American people, control them.

Interviewer: He told you it was going to be a hoax?

Aaron Russo: Oh, yeah. There’s no question. There’s going to be a War on Terror, and he was laughing.
Who are we fighting? I mean, why do you think 9/11 happened and then nothing has happened since then? Do you think that our security is so great here that these people who pulled off 9/11 were not able to knock down another plane? C’mon, it’s ridiculous. 9/11 was done by people in our own government, in our own banking system, to perpetuate the fear of the American people and to subordinate themselves to anything the government wants to do. That’s what it’s about and to create this endless war on terror and that was the first lie and the next lie was to go into Iraq to get Saddam Hussein out with his weapons of mass destruction. That was the next lie.

http://www.stopthecrime.net/The%20WAR%20on%20TERROR%20is%20a%20LIE.pdf

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– WhoBuiltTheCagesJOOO 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

And then he died shortly after the interview.

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– okaygroomer 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He sure did.

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– ReticulatingSplines 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/13/1332210_-analytical-and-intelligence-comments-mossad-ran-9-11-arab.html

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– Bobby777 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Sort of hijacking (no pun intended) top comment since I've seen no mention yet of Operation Northwoods in this thread.

9/11 was Operation Northwoods.

Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against American citizens that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to both stage and actually commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets,[2] blaming them on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The possibilities detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban immigrants, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas,[2] hijacking planes to be shot down or given the appearance of being shot down,[2] blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[3] The proposals were rejected by President John F. Kennedy.[4][5][6]

Fidel Castro had taken power in Cuba in 1959 and began allowing communists into the new Cuban government, nationalizing U.S. businesses and improving relations with the Soviet Union, arousing the concern of the U.S. military due to the Cold War. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts that would actually be perpetrated by the U.S. Government.[1] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:

The desired result from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The operation recommended developing a "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington", which involved the bombing of civilian targets themselves, which was to be blamed on the "irresponsible" Cuban government to paint a false image of Fidel Castro and misinform the American public.

The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the US government's anti-communist Cuban Project, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy. None of the false flag operations became active under the auspices of the Operation Northwoods proposals. Similar operations were carried out inside Cuba as part of Operation Mongoose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

We didn't take the oil though.

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– ShowMeWin 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

They sell the oil in USD only, not in euros or in yen or in gold. That was the point of toppling Saddam.

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– Memeite 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I believe they were searching the caves for the stolen gold from the fed. It was supposed to be hidden but had been stolen.

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– okaygroomer 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Why do you believe that?

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– Memeite 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The basement of 4 World Trade Center housed vaults used to store gold and silver bullion. Published articles about precious metals recovered from the World Trade Center ruins in the aftermath of the attack mention less than $300 million worth of gold. All such reports appear to refer to a removal operation conducted in late October of 2001. On Nov. 1, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani announced that "more than $230 million" worth of gold and silver bars that had been stored in a bomb-proof vault had been recovered. A New York Times article contained:

https://www.911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/gold.html

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– WakeUpWorld 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

Exactly what is going on now. That event was to implement Patriot Act and Covid is to implement some kind of health restrictions or mandates

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– NJHolyLand 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Me too man hahah. They called my balls "an anomaly" and took turns juggling them. I said "uhh those are my testicles sir...i can just take em out if it will move this along."

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– VoatAnon1984 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

If you act like you really enjoy it, they freak out and you win lmao.

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– SoMuchWinning45 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

CGI planes

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

How was a satanic ritual performed at that school? Was it the kids reciting whatever?

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– SoMuchWinning45 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That shit is horrifying.

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– SoMuchWinning45 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It took me 20 years to go from tHe tErRoRiStS to it being an inside job. There are some things you just don't want to accept, because the implications are horrifying and evil. I used to think "truthers" were nuts, now I'm one of them. Trump constantly saying that the communists were lying, and making a good effort to keep up with Q finished waking me up.

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– Glowie777 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Larry silverstein has entered the char.

Pull it.

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– CreamSoda 53 points 4 years ago +53 / -0

Just because someone isn't a lefty doesn't mean they're awake.

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– okaygroomer 41 points 4 years ago +41 / -0

The Fox News type. I have several in my family. Ugh.

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– BettyBlue76 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Same here. Get them to read citizen free press. It’s any easy transition and far more enlightening. The comments will red pill in time. My sister is waking up against her own will but she’s hooked on CFP.

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– okaygroomer 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Good call. I'll try that! Thanks!

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– B7447 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes I can relate. If I go off script a bit “that’s not what was reported on fox!”

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– InsanityRules 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Rupert Murdoch was very close friends with W

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– sackofwisdom 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

My confidence goes in waves, but every time I look into the matter it really does seem like multidimensional aliens are a part of whatever is going on. And whatever God is is also at play.

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– WhoKnowsAnymore 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

There most definitely are, this a universal spiritual war

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– PaNix 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

You'd almost have to be an alien of some kind to perpetuate some of this stuff wouldn't you? Lol

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– sackofwisdom 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Watch this documentary for example. It's well made. Use Brave browser to remove ads:

https://tubitv.com/movies/608954/above-majestic?start=true

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– fat50 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

I know many lefties who believe our government did 9/11.

This is not a partisan view

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– CreamSoda 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I suspect many here were lefty in the Bush administration. I was. What is it they say about going left to right over time without changing a single idea?

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– VetforTrump 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I know many who love trump who can't make the leap to the plan.

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– SpaceForce45 32 points 4 years ago +32 / -0

The cell phone calls from the airplane is what I can’t wrap my head around…have you tried that? It’s impossible…

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– okaygroomer 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

Aluminum tube going THROUGH a cement/steel building is my hangup...

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– deeluna 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

With enough speed and force, even a piece of straw can be lodged in a tree.

Editing Note, i did not say go through, I said lodged, as in partly stuck into.

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– Vstablegenius45 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

here is your piece of straw hitting just a concrete wall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4CX-9lkRMQ

Remember that the world trade towers were made out of huge pieces steel and concrete.

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– deeluna 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

you are forgetting that it wasn't a solid block of concrete the plane hit, but was more like a cage with glass, not to mention that aged concrete, unless treated gets brittle with exposure to the elements, especially with how old the towers were at the time.

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– VetforTrump 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

No sir, the same fuel that burns in a jet engine and doesn't melt it can not melt that steel. Sorry.

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– deeluna 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Never said anything about the fires fren. I was speaking of only the impact itself.

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– EveryDayPatriot 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Basically kerosene, which has very low volatility. What was the source of immediate ignition for the Hollywood-esque fireball?

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– HardWorkinPatriot 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

The architect built it to withstand being hit by planes. That structural steel would have held up.

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– SpaceForce45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Have you ever seen the nose of an aircraft after hitting a bird? There is no way an aluminum aircraft went through the last massive steel structure…

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– LongTimeListener 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Concrete gets stronger with time not weaker. Fun fact the Hoover Dam is still curing after decades and if there were not cold water pipes running through it the surface would be hotter than the ambient temperature.

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– deeluna 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Might want to tell that to some of the old concrete buildings around where I live. They are just as old, if not older, and are crumbling.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The interview with Trump at the time, he said the facade of the buildings were steel, that was why the windows were so thin in width.

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– Glowie777 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No. Twin towers were designed to take a hit from jumbo jer passenger aircraft.

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– user2827 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The only part of a plane that has enough density to crash through the structural steel would be the engines.

Everything else is aluminum, very thin sheet aluminum. It's just too soft.

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– DontTreadOnIT 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That is incorrect.

Mass x acceleration = force, so an an object with little mass will not carry much energy regardless of its velocity / acceleration.

Density also plays a part here. If a low density object impacts a high density object with force, the low density object will fragment or even vaporize.

Vstablegenius45 shared a video demonstrating this.

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– deeluna 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The video misses a point though, the towers were not solid like that block they fired the jet at there, they had gaps between for windows. Now I'm not saying that the damge was greater than it should have been. Heck even I can tell something's fishy with just the way the towers fell..

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– DontTreadOnIT 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

True, the towers were not the same density as a brick wall. The principle is the same though.

An aircraft fuselage would be mostly disintegrated after passing through the outer wall of the towers. And IIRC, the vertical 'striping' of the towers was designed to make them withstand accidental aircraft impacts.

I say this as someone who despised 9/11 "truthers" back in the day. Time has made me less emotional and more open-minded. The facts are all there if we allow ourselves to see them.

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– skidder1 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I would guess that there were spaces like windows and framed walls that would succumb to large jet engines traveling at 500kts hitting them and allow them to pass from one side of the building out the other, including the fireball from the jet fuel. I doubt the structural steel and masses of strengthened concrete were all that much impacted. So I don't see an argument about the jet passing into the building and being largely contained by the steel and concrete being useful for discussion purposes. Clearly the biggest argument for this being a planned event is building 7 collapsing into it's own footprint at free fall speed from random paper fires. This is impossible, the University of Alaska engineering dept studied it for 4 years and said the same. So if just one incident of that day can be proven to be planned, like wiring a building for demolition, then the whole 9/11 attack by terrorists is a contrived false flag, regardless of the presence of terrorists flying planes or not. We don't need to get bogged down with some of the non-supporting evidence for that conclusion. If building 7 was brought down by demolition then the 9/11 public narrative is false, which it is. Now the question is who is responsible, clearly this goes to the highest levels of our gov't and is on par with the Covid scamdemic. So it's likely done by the same group of people. That's just a guess, I'm open to alternative theories.

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– Glowie777 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Prove it

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– deeluna 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I shouldn't have to say that Mother nature and her wrath are nothing to sneeze at. https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/tornadoes-put-straw-through-poles/90369

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– Qonsciousness 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Doesn't mean it will collapse

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– deeluna 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Never said it would. The collapse looked more like an implosion.

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– awake1776 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

physics has entered the chat. There was some wonky stuff about 9/11. Pentagon damage did not look that bad, tower 7 etc. With the temperature jet fuel wreckage burns at, no it will not straight up MELT steel, but it WILL weaken it at least 50% leading to WTC collapse. I do believe that huge ass airline jets were flown into those towers, and they were flown by a bunch of extremist muslims, most of which from Saudi Arabia...

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– okaygroomer 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I do believe that huge ass airline jets were flown into those towers,

That's what it takes, belief, because it sure as shit doesn't add up.

Here's a clip of the "plane" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SQnnlzz8lk - Notice anything? Like the wing disappearing behind the building?

Physics? You wan't to talk about physics? You ever seen a fighter jet crash into a cement wall? The plane disintegrates. No aluminum wings are going to slice through steel and cement. Un-fucking-believable.

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– GoingCamaro 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Planes flying well passed VMO with no visible structural damage.

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– Ground_zero_7777 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Bingo... plane was flying way too fast for that altitude.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I remember one call where a guy called his wife to say good bye but he started off saying "I am <firstname lastname>" - sounded very fishy

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– NYC_4_Trump 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That struck me as incredibly weird. It was United 93's Mark Bingham.

The story, as told by his mother, goes like this:

Bingham called his mother's phone. His Aunt picked up the phone. He said "Hi, it's Mark" to his Aunt - and proceeded to explain what was happening. When his mother got on the phone, he said "This is Mark Bingham. I want you to know I love you. Three guys have taken over the plane...You've got to believe me. It's true."

I mean - why in the world would you ID yourself by your last name to your mother? Why would your last words about a hijacking be "You've got to believe me."

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– summersunset01 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Maybe he had 2 calls happening at the same time, on hold with 911 operator who transferred him to the FBI, and while waiting he dialed his mom?

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Bingo. It was indeed Mark Bingham. I have pondered about this, and the only plausible explanation is that the black hats were setting up some "heart warming" stories, that would also subtly solidify the whole False Flag in people's minds

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– Ground_zero_7777 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

"You believe me don't you?"

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– WakeUpWorld 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

It was 2001. Cell service was pathetic. I still can't get a call thru in certain places in town in 2021, imagine 20 yrs ago. Most did not even have a cellphone. I know they say they used the planes phones, but I'm sure that service was laughable and was not streamlined

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– nomadic 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I actually remember differently -- these phones used to be on every seat (before cell phones) and they were pretty streamlined. Remember these?

https://intotomorrow.com/this-week-in-tech-history-first-phones-on-airplanes/

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– TychoDurandal 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

They used to have phones in every headrest with credit cards swipers. I think that’s what the official narrative claimed: that one of the passengers dialed out from their seat phone

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

is that the guy who introduced himself to his mother using his full name lol.

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– TychoDurandal 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I’m not saying I believe the narrative but I’m saying that skyphones were part of it

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– Th4rd_R3ich 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Is it really impossible? I thought it was possible using whatever high grade transceiver and equipment the pilot and copilot have at the ready. I bought into that final recorded phone call with that woman pilot pretty good back then.

But alas, now I know it was really the JEWS!

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

they used the same communication technology that the President used to call the moon and talk to the astronauts that were allegedly there lol.

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– Analophigus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

#legit

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– INK10 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Don't they make you turn off all your electronics and phones on planes because it could interfere with the planes "high grade" transceiver and responder, and other electronic equipment?

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– Hopiumaddict 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

Yes! Joined the military over that day and swallowed a redpill towards the end of my duty. Felt pretty gross fighting the oil war and I’m not proud of anything we did. Just pawns for the cabal.

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– TakeItBack 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Your motives were patriotic though and for that I thank you.

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– Hopiumaddict 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Thank you. While I still feel weird about it, I definitely appreciate the sentiment. I absolutely love my country and the principles it was founded under.

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– GoingCamaro 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Drug war pawn here. I know what you mean.

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– user2827 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

You know, at that time, it's little surprise that many people would take on the duty to defend the nation from an attack like that.

I still remember multiple times explaining to friends why it was self-inflicted (did not know the term false flag until years later) and on a few occasions had people square up to me because I suggested the government would do something like that.

Someone like yourself, even ordered to engage in dishonorable things, still did so with honor and distinction. I don't feel like anyone should be judged for doing what was believed right and just when they were misled so strongly.

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– Hopiumaddict 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I was just very young and naive. I thought things worked differently, but I hadn’t yet began pulling back the layers.

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– user2827 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Look, I totally understand the call, at that point I don't think more than 5% of people were red-pilled, and without really analyzing and everyone saying the official story, that call is just and honorable.

At that point you signed onto a job under the presumption that it was the right thing to do, and understandably. If you acted honorably in that time the dishonor remains higher up the chain.

Especially that you recognize the error, I can't speak for God, but I would expect/hope that this would more than make up for any bad karma tied to yourself. (For myself too in other, less distinguished ways)

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– Hopiumaddict 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Absolutely! God knows what’s in your heart. Appreciate the thoughts fren.

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– russiah 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0

Building #7 was totally collapsed by itself.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

Building #7 collapsing was only part of the mystery. The real mystery was the BBC reporter saying it collapsed almost an hour before it collapsed. That was what sealed the deal for me.

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

WTC7 collapsed in a manner that is indistinguishable from a controlled demolition.

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– Ground_zero_7777 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It was said on Coast to Coast Thursday/Friday that many sensitive government buildings are pre-rigged in case the sensitive date I'd compromised by an enemy.

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– Ground_zero_7777 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He said it was in response to the OKC bombing...

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– Ratdog900 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Had friends tell me at the time it was an inside job I called them crazy If our govt could kill 3000 Americans we are in real trouble well it was and we are I have since apologized to all of zhem

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– Ratdog900 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

And now I know how they must have felt I am called crazy all the time now Some normie friend tod me she's gonna tell everyone I have dementia lol

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– MAGALogic 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah I remember that.

That was creepy how the BBC reporter said it before it happened.

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– HardWorkinPatriot 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Exactly! And I remember a telecaster saying that there was someone on the ground telling people it was safe, and to go back in the towers as they were leaving the burning building. WTF! They evacuated the Sears Tower just because they were afraid it might be a target, and there was someone telling people to go back in. My only conclusion was...they wanted the death toll high.

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– EveryDayPatriot 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That part is extremely fishy, I remember hearing about people wanting to leave the other tower after the first hit. They were told everything is fine, go back to work. Ummm what?!?

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– Tellstruth 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Building #7 collapsing was only part of the mystery. The real mystery was the BBC reporter saying it collapsed almost an hour before it collapsed.

Jane Stanley also told us what caused it to collapse.

9/11 BUILDING 7 COLLAPSE 3.5 min https://www.bitchute.com/video/SgSq5tCgIgUH/

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– Heckles 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0

9/11, Las Vegas, Pearl Harbor, Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon Bombing.

They are responsible for all of these.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

C'mon, is that all you got? Start with French Revolution. Titanic. Great Depression. Bolsheviks. Hitler. Everything you name it. I believe even Civil war was fanned by the Central Bank Cabal.

I dont think many large human tragedies in the past 100 years (more like 200 years) has been accidental.

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– SOTUisFUBAR 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

C'mon, is that all you got? It goes WAY further back, ancient times even. Wherever mankind has gone wrong, been in battles, my bet is Cabal was there.

Elitists, cultists, and Satan worshippers have been with us since God knows when.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Oh absolutely, look at my history. I have a post tying this back to the times of Moses, then to the times of Jesus and finally the current iteration starting with 1666 fire in London, the central bank creation and everything that happened since then!

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– happycamperval2 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Wow you guys were blaming the cabal before blaming the cabal was cool.

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– Generalissimo13 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Prophet Moses was the first true Bolshevik.

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– Heckles 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The Hindenburg and the Costa Concordia.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Did anyone actually crack the Hindenburg mystery (there was a Q post). Apparently the Hindenburg disaster helped Hitler rise to power. I went through the passenger manifests and the timeline and just couldn't figure it out.

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– Heckles 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

"Hugo Eckener was the manager of the Luftschiffbau Zeppelin during the inter-war years, and also the commander of the famous Graf Zeppelin for most of its record-setting flights, including the first airship flight around the world, making him the most successful airship commander in history. He was also responsible for the construction of the most successful type of airships of all time. An anti-Nazi who was invited to campaign as a moderate in the German presidential elections, he was blacklisted by that regime and eventually sidelined.

Hugo Eckener had always made safety his absolute priority during his many years managing airship operations. With Eckener's management, the Zeppelin company had a perfect safety record with no passenger ever sustaining a serious injury on any of the more than 1 million air miles that the rigid airships flew, until the Hindenburg disaster of 1937.[citation needed]. Eckener was in Graz, Austria when he heard news of the Hindenburg disaster on 6 May 1937. In the official inquiry he concluded that a static spark ignited leaking hydrogen in the aft section of the ship. The leak would have been caused by a sharp turn, which he believed overstrained a bracing wire, causing it to snap and rip open an adjacent gas cell."

Maybe it was to crash an industry they didn't have complete control of? Like they did with Mad Cow disease. Looks like one of the most famous airship captains and designers was very anti nazi.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Looks like one of the most famous airship captains and designers was very anti nazi.

Very interesting, thanks for all this info!

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– user2827 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Could probably go all the way back to the library of Alexandria.

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– GoingCamaro 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

WWI on has been contrived bullshit.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Way before that, well before that.

Lincoln assassination was a hard red pill that people just forgot, but it started even before that.

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– GoingCamaro 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Okay I am open to ideas, however it's not going to be easy to prove. Information in that era is severely lacking.

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– swimkin 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

I believed it last year.

I believe it now even though I wasn't suspicious at the time of the attack. It took me a couple of years to come around to the possibility. I never approved of the Patriot Act and the loss of freedoms it brought. I didn't want to have to go through the airport scanners nor be patted down to travel. The whole loss of liberties made me consider it was created for that reason. Then I did the deep dive into the "conspiracy"

Now I am certain of it.
Just hoping the real truth comes out.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Just hoping the real truth comes out.

If the Storm comes today, it would be so bittersweet. Would have been worth everything we endured until now.

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

on 9/11, 5 Israeli's were arrested after they were observed video taping and celebrating the attack on the WTC.

after these Israeli's got back to Israel, one of them explained what they were doing that day...

paraphrased

"the truth is, Israel suffers terrorist attacks every day, and so we were there merely to document the attack"

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– Encognegro98ckun2qb 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Such great dancers

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– Tellstruth 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

"the truth is, Israel suffers terrorist attacks every day, and so we were there merely to document the attack"

Here is the interview: https://www.bitchute.com/video/axWocp4Cp9gi/

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– cryofreeze 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

As I was watching it happen I figured it was planned for the purpose of destroying individual freedom. Later I learned about the other motives.

Before 911 you could order an international driver's license, use cheap offshore shell companies, and put assets in easy to use trusts. Freedom was still achievable while living in the USA back then.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Before 911 you could order an international driver's license, use cheap offshore shell companies, and put assets in easy to use trusts.

Before 9/11 you could go to the airport 5 mins before a plane was departing and still make it. There were so security checks, nothing. Its scary how quickly we got accustomed to it, to the point we dont even mind it.

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– cryofreeze 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I mind.

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– GoingCamaro 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Not me. I'll take dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery any day

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This is the way.

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– JulesW 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Might as well ask who doesn’t believe this at this point. There is just no other conclusion you can come to if you truly examine all the facts.

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– WakeUpWorld 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Just think of that. Our own govt was complicit in 2 of the greatest crimes and attacks on its own people that affected the entire globe in the last century. 9/11 & Covid shows the lengths the power elite will go to to control us. If you believe the official narrative to either event, you have not researched at all and you are part of the problem

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– bubble_bursts [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I thought you were going to say JFK assassination. I think it was the start of the modern era of brutal CIA ruling the whole world. Knowing that they got away killing their own President brought everyone in line all over the world and made it easy for CIA to do what they wanted.

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– VetforTrump 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The corporate unites states is not my own government. I reject them wholly.

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– Michonne21 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Without a doubt! The entire media was involved in the cover up among many others. For me it was building 7 that woke me up to the biggest psyops ever played. After that I started looking at all the evidence. There never were any planes. I believe it was the cabal with Israel and Saudi Arabia in the driver seat and full cooperation from our own government (the usual suspects). Twenty years later not a damn thing has been done to hold these degenerates to justice and nothing has changed. They continue to destroy us and our world. Another travesty is to blame it on innocent Muslims. We are fools to believe anything these scumbags say.

The video of a reporter asking Joe Biden about the thermite found in the 911 report is telling. Biden was caught off guard and his reaction is telling. There is so much evidence available that is ignored and labeled conspiracy theories. Makes me sick.

I have remaining questions: What happened to the planes and flight 93? Wasn't one of Hillary’s friends on flight 93? Where are the planes? Were the airlines themselves involved? Did Rudy have advance knowledge? Did he facilitate removal of debris that contain evidence of thermite? If so why did Rudy play? Why hasn’t anyone been brought to justice? Will the full charade of of 911 ever be told to the world? We deserve the full accounting?

Why the fuck is Bruce “Deep-state Trash” Springsteen performing at the 911 ceremony?

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– bubble_bursts [S] 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

What happened to the planes and flight 93? Where are the planes?

One theory states that at least one of the plane had a guy (forgot his name) who was specialised in anti-hijacking and commandeering planes. Also, the two planes that hit the towers apparently had one common airport on their flight path, where they might have been parked and then a drone/missile launched? I would only assume they got rid of the plane and the passengers

Wasn't one of Hillary’s friends on flight 93?

Sonia Poupolis. She sat 2 seats from Atta, apparently. Hillary, Bill, John Kerry attended her eulogy. Later it was shown that the metadata of the picture the FBI published about her story was taken 8 months prior and had the eulogy already embedded. Its quite possible she was a CIA creation.

Her son threatened to kill Trump and was convicted and jailed. Coincidence?

Were the airlines themselves involved?

Knowing how deep corruption runs, do you doubt this for a second?

Did Rudy have advance knowledge?

Not advance knowledge, but when it happened he realised Cheney was interfering and was behind all this. In his testimony to 911 commission, he inserted some pretty obvious discrepencies, perhaps as an inurance or as a flag mark.

Did he facilitate removal of debris that contain evidence of thermite?

Yes, he had no choice. It was that, or get killed. But I believe he kept all the receipts.

If so why did Rudy play?

He was playing a long game. Same way military generals quietly fumed and planned after JFK assassination. Its no coincidence that Rudy plays a central character in the current saga - hunter laptop, election fraud etc.

The DS is terrified of him, and he has a few dead man switches as well.

Why hasn’t anyone been brought to justice? Will the full charade of of 911 ever be told to the world? We deserve the full accounting?

If my guess is correct, we should see it happening along with the Storm. Who knows, it might happen tomorrow if we are lucky. It would be bittersweet.

Taliban taking over Afghanistan couple weeks before 9/11?

Julian Assange (who warned us about the whole Afghanistan hoax) having his full extradition hearing?

The 9/11 terrorists in Gitmo finally getting their case heard?

Proof that FBI was colluding with CIA in getting/planting evidence with the terroritsts?

All at the same time as 20th anniversary of 9/11? And at the same time the audit reports are ready? Three weeks before we are set for the biggest default in the history of world?

is it all a coincidence? We will see.

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– 1Markseeker 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Well done!

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Default? Like government credit default? The whole financial system/market changing?

Does that mean MOASS? I can get my tendies?

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– bubble_bursts [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The ponzi scheme called "Economy" coming crashing.

Basically the entire world economy is driven by the central banks. They print free money, let the govts borrow then, charge interest. The only way to pay interest is to borrow more money and hence inflation.

Right now that balloon is ready to pop, because Trump did some magic and Fed was forced into holding their own debt. Hence it's gonna be hard to print more money. October, US is running out of money. Debt ceiling needs to be increased, but not increasing it is gonna be the cover.

Not sure exactly what/how will happen, but at the same time a whole bunch of wall street naked shorts will also surface and the whole house of cards will come crashing.

I am not a fiancial adviser, but if you have too much exposed to stocks, perhaps best to do serious research and decide what u want to do

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm ready for life-changing fuck-you money each share.

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– 94f450d 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

👋

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– Blessedtrucker2011 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Hundreds of thousands more...including myself.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Good to hear!

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– Martha1776 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I don’t trust anything I’ve known my whole life anymore. When I mentioned it to my husband , who hasn’t embraced the idea that satanists/evil globalist/cabal are running the world. he said a guy at work doesn’t believe the story of jet fuel, and seemed to be open to the idea of it was on purpose. He does believe JFK was assassinated by government. He doesn’t believe the magic bullet.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Yeah, everything we believe is false to different extent. History, Science, Medicine, everything.

He does believe JFK was assassinated by government.

At this point it will be crazy for anyone to not believe this. Trump even declassified some docs in 2018 pointing out there were more than one person involved (hence it is a conspiracy).

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– magachudd 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

1000%.

Ya know, I have to say that I am not too keen on Dan Bongino anymore.

During the Cyber Symposium it was announced (I believe) that ExpressVPN was a CCP spy operation. I thought to myself that I will see if Bongino disavows them. Crickets. Still is promoting them. WTF? That was back then.

Yesterday, I started watching his show since it was the only one accessible because I was driving, and first thing was his little ad he does and it was for ExpressVPN. I thought well, if he had a contract for a while and it was too hard to get out of then it would be a consideration, but then I started thinking that it would be total hypocritical BS of him if that were true.

He proceeded to do a segment on how 9/11 was most certainly masterminded and executed by Islamic terrorists and how teachers are doing a disservice for not teaching that to kids. I turned it off.

Bongino is still on Fox, still on YouTube, still pushing ExpressVPN, and still pushing Cabal narratives. I think this is what controlled opposition looks like, frens.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

As for Dan Bongino, the whole Parler fiasco turned me off from him. Yeah, its pretty clear that he is a controlled opposition of some kind. As for VPNs - do not trust any VPN - NordVPN, ExpressVPN - they are all the same.

Best thing to do is create accounts with couple of different hosting providers, and run your own VPN server. Keep deleting and recreating new instances every couple days. Don't know if it helps fully, but its definitely better than any commercial VPN service.

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About ExpressVPN... I lived and worked in China for 10 years and among the many VPNs I used, ExpressVPN was the most stable and seemed to never be knocked offline for long by the government,

I always wondered how this was possible and it of course is a logical possibility that ExpressVPN has an agreement with China to monitor certain actions or people.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

How did Bongino get close to Trump if he's controlled opposition?

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– magachudd 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

An audience is an audience. Why does Trump go on Newsmax?

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– magachudd 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Why does he go on Hannity?

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– Oldgal_frdup 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

3,000 engineers and architects have been trying to tell us the truth for 20 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYUYya6bPGw

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– Maryaha 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

George Bush speaking today makes my skin crawl.

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– CrimsonSentinal 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Fuck Bush and Cheney. They are in my top five of who I want to see go first at GITMO. Maybe let them sweat it a little but, if there is a God please make this happen.

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– Drawdraw45 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Really? Are you sure there was few that did? I never got that impression, and there's not a doubt in my mind that tit was orchestrated by the cabal.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Come to think of it, at that time I was primarily handing out at TD win, so it might have been there. But I got scolded for suggesting it was an inside job.

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– Drawdraw45 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I could def see it happening there. Especially with the massive change in overall culture there over the past 1.5ish years. It got too popular, absorbed too many immigrants from all over kek.

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– GoGoOptomistic 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I do believe both Bushes, Rumsfeld and Cheney did have involvement in the whole thing,

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– Dudemanfoo 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Ever since I heard Bush 1 say "New World Order" my spidey senses have been on to those fuckers.

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– redhawk 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

beyond a fashion of a doubt it was... the perfect setup to justify unending war in the middle east and the erosion of rights at home via the patriot act

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

treason

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– MAG768720 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Ted Olsen is the ONLY source of the "they had box cutters" story.

He was a high-ranking lawyer at the DOJ (Solicitor General).

He was married to Barbara Olsen, who was a frequent guest on CNN.

She was onboard Flight 77.

He claims she called him and told him the hijackers had box cutters. That's where the story came from. Ted Olsen.

When asked what type of phone she called from, he said cell phone, then changed to air phone (on board the plane), then back to cell phone.

Problem. BIG problem.

American Airlines did not have air phones on any of their 757's at that time, confirmed by American.

So, it had to be a cell phone.

BIGGER problem.

In the Zacharia Moussawi trial, the FBI was forced to provide proof via phone records that no cell phone calls were completed from that flight.

So, they had box cutters, huh ...

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Good info. I remember some big name Barbara was on 77, but always thought it was Barbara Walters for some reason.

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– Marius 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I have refused to even consider such a horrible crime as being possible but after the 2020 coup and plandemic I now know that these evil fucks are willing to do anything for greed and power so thousands of deaths would mean nothing to them. So yes, I think it is likely that the DS Globalist Cabal was behind it all.

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– ChristineAnne 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

From that night I was certain it was an evil entity. I lived across the bay from the towers. At night it was so silent and dark. No air traffic. I could often sense the presence of demons and will swear I saw some scuttling around the home of my next door firefighter neighbor who was at ground zero

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– bubble_bursts [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Wow, this is crazy

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– TexasSwammer 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

✋

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– Dlh221 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

My son used to tell me for years " It was an inside job" I'd tell him " you're nuts" that was before I was Awake! Then once I was able to see the all the corruption and deep shit of the Deep State with eyes opened I looked at the facts. There is no doubt in my mind that it was orchestrated and blood is on their hands for every single death.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I didnit even have the concept of Deep State or Cabal 20 years ago, however strangely I always felt there was something more to the story - but more like corruption, cover up kinda thing. Over the years just started hearing more and more stuff. But Building 7 was the final straw. Once I watched the video of the BBC reporter saying 7 had falled before it had actually fallen, and the way he said it, I had no doubts. Then it was just a question of revisiting everything else.

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– phaqureddit9232 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If you want to read the most detailed and convincing investigation of 911, I recommend Michael Ruppert's Crossing The Rubicon. It is amazing how much there is out there in plain sight and how little was ever done about it.

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– deeluna 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Considering the wreckage at the Petagon didn't match up with a passenger jet, and the way the towers fell in as if they were imploded instead of falling over from the top section, and other things like the bomb sniffing dogs just happened to be away at the time, and that a third tower unrelated to the twin towers also fell that day... nah everything is totally on the up and up.

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– RS34ME 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The Pentagon wreckage never added up to me. Speaking of, I don’t recall ever seeing the aftermath of the actual plane that supposedly hit. Is it true, that it was a missile that took out the Pentagon??

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– SherryLusk 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yes, I do. A year and a half ago, I didn't.

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– MordenGeist 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Known this since the day it happened. Pointed out all the anomalies in everything to people and they were so tuned into what the TV was telling them, they turned off their ability to analyze and think.

The Shock and Awe wasn't for Hussein, it was for the American Public..

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– FrenchQ 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yup. Google "Dancing Israelis".

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– bubble_bursts [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

For a moment I thought you were referring to that Israeli art project which had a Helicopter hovering in front of the WTC, a few months before 9/11.

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– Tellstruth 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

GELATIN THE B THING

https://www.bitchute.com/video/swURJncJVABK/

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– Ethon 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

As I’ve always said we are pawns. They use us to complete a narrative. That in itself should piss everyone off. Murder of 4000 people from the us government and now this god damned ponzy scheme called covid that was implemented to overthrow the election. We are pawns

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– ThePowerOfPrayer 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I was a restaurant general manager at a Pizza Hut and worked an open to close shift after my closing manager called out. Crazily enough, I didn't even find out what happened in New York until ~11PM that night.

I opened the restaurant and was listening to music on cassette tapes while doing my prep work, so I never heard the news.

My opening server showed up after having seen the broadcasts and assumed I already knew about it. I just remember her seeming to be very depressed and my response was giving her space, figuring she'd talk to me about what was bothering her when she was ready.

Our lunch buffet was normally busy but we only had a few customers show up in the dining room. I was extremely puzzled when we had more delivery orders on a Tuesday morning than we normally had on Friday nights, but I didn't have too much time to contemplate why it felt like it did an hour before game time on a Super Bowl Sunday.

I called every single driver on my staff to see if they wanted to come in and make some money. They all showed up and we were cranking out deliveries.

Another thing that really caught me off guard was not one customer complained when I answered the phone and told them it would be an hour or longer for delivery. None of them cancelled their orders and all were very understanding. My drivers were getting $5-10 tips from many customers and that's all they really talked about, so I still had no idea why this was happening.

I was focused on prepping more dough to meet the demand, staging orders so customers would get hot pizzas (i.e. not putting orders in he oven right away but timing it so they'd be coming out as drivers returned from their previous runs), etc.

Meanwhile, my employees either thought I had lost my mind because I was so upbeat and happy in spite of what had happened, or that I was trying to put on a strong face for their benefit.

After my closing manager called out, which I chalked up to morning sickness as she was 6 months pregnant at the time, I continued focusing on meeting the demands and keeping product in stock. We ended up doing over $5000 in sales, which is more than we normally did even on Friday nights.

The dining room continued to be empty and my closing server asked if he could clean everything up and go home, which I agreed. We ended up getting a table right before the restaurant closed, and I waited on the table.

When the customer brought her bill to the register, she thanked me for helping them to feel like everything was going to be fine and for helping them escape from reality for even a brief moment.

When I honestly told her I had no idea what she was talking about, she first thought I was messing with her. But I persisted and she ultimately asked me, "You don't know about the towers that fell in New York today?" I was shocked and told her I'd been at work all day because my closer called in and nobody had bothered mentioning anything about it.

All of this story above was to set up this final statement. The first thing I did when I got home was turn on the TV only to hear some newscaster report intact passports from the terrorists had been found in the rubble. My immediate reaction to this news was disbelief in the official narrative.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I love listening to people's 9/11 stories. This one is one of the best so far. Yeah, when the passport news came, I remember scratching my head, but then I was "Oh well, if the authorities say that it must be true".

I realised that it takes a lot to lose trust in authorities that we have been taught to believe in. Really takes a LOT. Thanks to Trump, we have finally opened our eyes fully (some of us at least, I know there are many people who always had their eyes open). I knew things were corrupt, but never could have imagined it was to this extent.

Funnily the first time I started reading Q posts, it all just clicked in my mind. Suddenly everything made sense. When I explained it to my wife "Q posts claims that Obama, Hillary etc are all evil" she immediately replied "See, I always knew, but could not put my finger on it. Especially Obama, I never trusted him".

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– CrQCQd1LE_TendiePede 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Problem

Reaction

Solution...

Simple as that. And here we are 20 years later, up to our necks in it.

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