Well frens, I'm at a loss for words. My father (who is very based and also follows Q) just told me that he is getting the vaccine. My mother has basically given him an ultimatum... Either get the vaccine, or get divorced. Before you all start roasting her, she is immunocompromised and in her 60s. That doesn't justify this path of action, but I figure some added perspective never hurts. She's my mom, and I love her dearly. Right now she wants a separation for her to reassess the relationship, so my dad is moving out for a bit. 32 years of marriage coming down due to propaganda and fear porn. My father is heartbroken, but his love for my mother is greater than all his other convictions. What kills me most is that after talking to her, vaccination is only the starting point. Not the heal all. So my father might get vaccinated and still end up without the love of his life. Truly heartbreaking.
In addition to all this, I also received word from my pregnant and fully vaccinated sister that she has COVID and has been tachycardic for 5 days. I told her to get some Ivermectin but she ignored my text, presumably because "horse drug bad". If this shit ends up killing ANYONE in my family I don't know what I'll do. My family is very, very small... Please send your prayers y'all. We will need them.
theres nothing your father can do to save this marriage. she's using the VAX as an excuse to leave him. want to save your mother? literally destroy her smart phone, ipad, computer, and television.
Exactly. Also tough love seems appropriate. If it were me, I’d pack a small bag, leave her everything and start anew. Leaving her to spend a lifetime regretting a decision is the ultimate payback, in my opinion.
I hope his dad doesn't leave everything for her. If I were him, I'd start dividing up assets, then leave. Starting over in your sixties is no picnic.
Same here.
Yup it’s over. OP and his dad need to just do their own thing. The rest of the family is lost.
My mother believes the vax and all hook line and sinker and so does my sister.
We boys stay with dad and we have really gotten to know how based and badass my dad is. He’s a fucking brilliant man.
He won’t divorce my mom and she won’t divorce him but they aren’t living together anymore. For them it’s this simple like “well she was driving me nuts anyway. I love the woman - she can live on her own that’s fine.”
Honestly it’s the best thing that has happened for us boys. I adore my dad and this time has been priceless. God works in interesting ways.
My brother and Dad and I haven’t had this much time our whole lives to make memories and all. It’s been amazing.
Also your mom won’t respect your Dad if he gets the jab. That’s how some women are. She might view it as weak for Dad to abandon his conviction for her.
Correct. Logically or Outwardly she will respect his decision. Biologically and Emotionally she will see him as a chump.
She probably already sees him that way, based on her demands.
Correct. “She will see him more so as a chump”
It's terrible what has happened to these women. They are all off their rockers.
It’s a thing.
Freedom is Slavery.
Slavery is Freedom.
Yes. I'm old and my mother passed at 92 about 15 years ago. She was a Feinstein-Pelosi democrat but I loved her dearly. We argued quite a bit about politics. Loving someone doesn't depend on having the same judgements about politics. Living happily with someone does - to a far greater degree.
Most marriages break up - over half of them. This time in America and the world is an intense and defining moment. Many of us have lost association with people we loved and liked and were related to.
The cabal is cunning at twisting reality and destroying judgement and reason.
In my view you and your family are going to have to accept the changes that are presenting themselves to you. It's happened to many of us, you're not alone.
Also, keep in mind that eighty percent of divorces are initiated by the woman.
Is this accurate?!
As far as I know, yes
Idk the stat, but they have the most to gain in most divorces.
I did not know this.
Sister is proof that vax solves nothing for immunocompromised mother. If she can't see this fucking obvious fact there's simply no hope, he needs to just write it off
It comes down to personal choice no matter who says we have to get the jab. This f*ckin pandemic is tearing families apart and I for one can't wait till the day these people pay for their wrong doings.
Me too fuck em
This.
He may be heartbroken emotionally - no reason he has to literally break his heart physically.
this. divorce
What a heartbreaking story. I pray that she sees the light and realizes that fear porn is not worth destroying a marriage over. I have several based family members that have caved and I just cant figure it out. My uncle is a hard core prepper, moved out to the woods, thousands of rounds of ammo, backup on backup plans and he just told my dad he is going to get the vax because his doctor is a "stand up guy" and told him it was "safe". These hospitals already killed my mom with a ventilator when this all started (she went in with an infection on her foot and ended up on a respirator, dead a few days later, covid was listed as her cause of death). Its infuriating what is happening to peoples families. I will pray for your family. Keep us updated.
This is as close to our Civil War but without bullets, just shots.. same divisions brother against brother, etc etc..
You’re seeing it for what it is.
Truth is most people don’t understand that they will absolutely see a cost. A very real war is being waged.
Do you know what real wars are about? Production. A battle is won decisively - a war always equates to production. When you break the ability for an enemy to produce & thrive they loose the ability to fight - thus an end to the war.
Take the Chinese Communists. They only ever seek to control the means of production. That’s it. Military comes after. If you can sieze that means you can displace anyone else and win the war. The communists know this well as Mao siezed power how? Seizing production. This is why communism is so focused on workers.
This production is also why the United States has been siezed by the New World Order doing everything to compromise our health, our hearts, and our minds. We are a country of unbridled ideas. They have to literally sieze our souls to stop that.
So here we are. What would a modern civil war look like? Well everything is so interconnected that production will basically halt with a kinetic war. Those ripples happen globally now because of GLOBOHOMO.
So - what do you do? You “phase out” undesirables. You “quiet” voices that you can’t homogenize to Newspeak. Anyone not of the Party? Dissidents. They are - Deplorable / Undesireable.
Get it yet? They literally want us re-educated or dead
So your mother wants to destroy your fathers immune system, so they can both die together with the same lack of ability to stave off infection?
A bold strategy.
Wanted to say exactly this. But then saw your comment...
Enjoy your updoot.
Its a funny way to get that whole 'till death do us part' bit of marriage down to an exact science, I guess.. A murder/suicide pact, but with booze, dancing and cake.
I would typically agree OP's mother using the "not vaxxed" as just an excuse or even justification to herself for divorce.
However, given OP's mother is immunocompromised, it could very well be her get vaxxed out or get divorced ultimatum is fear driven.
I'm immunocompromised & can attest to the incredible amount of pressure & fear mongering day in & day out I've received from friends, family, coworkers, etc, even from people who are against getting vaxxed themselves. People automatically equate immunocompromised as being high risk & think not only should be be jabbed but we shouldn't be around people who aren't jabbed. You know, for our safety. I personally absolutely refuse to get the jab. I finally just started telling everyone my treating physician said that because of my medication, I have a higher risk of death from the vax than from COVID & my hubby & son have natural immunity. This was the only thing that shut people up.
Good on you. It's already been shown to be "ineffective" (however that is measured) in immune compromised patients. So the answer is "get more shots." But the vaccinated are making things worse.
Exactly u/OnCydig - you are right.
he may get poisoned. Use good terminology.
If she already wants separation then ok.SEPARATION. Real one. Take your dad out of this home.He should NOT take the jab of course. And your mother should consider what she wants.
Yes it may be a pretext.
I agree that the reason for divorce was there, the vaxx is an excuse.
It’s hard to see parents as people with flaws. Love them anyways.
People need compassion and forgiveness. they know not what they do.
60 is not too old to find someone new. What kind of wife would ever hold divorce over their husband's head. I don't care what age, kick that nonsense to the curb, call her bluff.
I am with you. If she would just throw away all those years then call the bluff. Gotta man up in times like this.
A lot of wives are guilting them into getting the vaxx by using the young kids. They say do it for the kids or else I leave. You have to think of the kids. They are at risk if we don't get the vaxx.
This pisses me off as my wife has said this! Oh, BTW the kids and her all got Covid. They were fine after a couple days. Was like a cold or a weak flu. I was fine. Took Ivermectin!
Same with my Uncle, follows Q since the start. Was one of the original Mods on the chans. And still got the fuckin vax because "I need to fly"...........like what....the.....actuallllll.......FUCKKKKKK man you know what the plan is, and you willingly let yourself get this shit. :(:(
That's wild. Basic conservatives getting it because Trump said so or for whatever reason is one thing but following Q and knowing the game and still getting... that's something else.
Seriously, unless God tapped me on the shoulder and told me to get it, I'm not getting it. I don't care who thinks it's a good idea.
Heartbreaking when there is no excuse such as brainwashing or being asleep.
There is brainwashing though, unless one is living under a rock. Every media message in every media is crafted to (1) instill fear of an intangible, a virus. No one can comprehend this virus without a top grade lab so the fear mongers can say what they like without fear of someone checking. Plus, they have the microphone. (2) After the fear stick, they relentlessly push the vaccine carrot. CNN had a person who famously let that slip.
I don’t believe there is any good reason to have TDS or be unaware of the Mockingbird Media Complex.
I’m sure there is plenty I’m still willingly ignorant of, but this fake news knowledge has been well within everyone’s reach.
Which is why common sense/intuition ultimately triumphs over "muh sources". Sources help to back up an argument for something, but if you are entirely relying on what officials and experts say to decide anything then you essentially out-source your critical thinking to a bunch of people with an agenda.
Common sense and basic logic alone is sufficient to prevent one from getting the vaccine, even if you didn't understand the mechanics of the vaccine or micro-biology or whatever.
I know you don't want to hear this and it's likely too soon, but nothing last forever and everyone dies.
Please remind all of your loved ones to speak often to Jesus Christ. If they are troubled then suggest they take a long walk with Jesus and discuss their troubles with their oldest friend.
Tell your loved ones that you love them and remind them that Jesus Christ has always been by their side.
This is good advice.
Honest dialogue is needed in these times.
This is so tone deaf. We have a family member that does this same thing to folks who are losing their loved ones and all it does is cause resentment and cost the relationship of the ones who are still alive after the fact. It is ironic because maintaining those relationships would give her further ability to continue to talk about Jesus. But no, interjecting arbitrary speculation about someone on their loved ones deathbed is more important. It’s funny how the moral high ground is always paved with good intentions and a clear lack of empathy
Literally no clue how this response to that retard mentoks post lol. Have to think hit reply on the wrong comment.
I sympathise with you about the incredibly painful situation your family is going through.
Would it still be possible to advise your father to not get the shot at the moment. If your parents are going to have the separation,your father could wait for a bit longer(hopefully forever) to even consider getting the shot.
When thing cool down a bit,you could explain to your father and possibly your mum that your father would be safer for your mum if he is not vaxxed
Your father would be safer and better for your mums health if he is using one of the prevention protocols. These protocols may help your mum and sister also.
Your mum should get medical advice about treatments she can use to help her.
Here is a link for FLCCC: https://covid19criticalcare.com/
Here is a link for Dr Zelenko: https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/prophylaxis-protocol/
There are many more. I wish you and your family well in this sad,troubling situation.
Stay strong and calm to help them.
Prayer said for strength and guidance for all of you. Covid kills more marriages than it does people:(
she is immunocompromised.....that's why he and she SHOULD NOT GET THE SHOT. Is your mother fucking stupid? Does she not see that all of these problems with the vax are attacking peoples immune systems. She must recognize the fucking symptoms. HOW DID YOUR MOM BECOME IMMUNOC? From a vax as a kid, Do you think she was born with a bad immune system? GEEZ people please wake the fuck up.
She got into a biking accident a few years ago and lost her spleen and 30% of her pancreas. Not vaccine related
Still though she must suffer the same effects. They are devastating and trying to force that onto someone is criminal and should be treated that way. I feel sorry for you being raised by a monster.
Hey I've just thought up a solution to all this. We just forbid our women from watching TV or using social media!
All the bullshit will be stopped in its tracks!
There are just as many men falling for this BS, too. Stupidity isn't limited by one's sex.
Yes, more men than women wearing masks in the store, ugh.🤮
Hold on fren, make that "some" women. Not all of us fall for the MSM BS. I never have, never will, and make sure my husband gets true and correct info.
^^This.
Exactly.
I'm with you. We don't fall for the crazy lies that MSM and the Biden Adm. put out. We watch Conservative news and...........We're on GAW.
Control freaks are all leftists.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
You hear that, lkjsdf9845? Your attempt to control women has outed you as a leftist, per Anon1970!
there are many elements of the muslim culture that would solve most problems we face.
Islamofascism is NOT the answer to any problems we face.
Tough spot to be in, that's for sure. Your dad sounds like one of the good guys; however, something you said ("she wants a separation for her to reassess the relationship") makes me wonder if without your knowledge, the marriage might have been troubled for longer than you think, and this is the passive-aggressive way for her to deal with it.
A few facts about life:
People don't listen to facts when feelings are running high.
You can't change anyone.
At root, people are basically emotional and irrational beings; they have to be TAUGHT critical thinking and how to discern truth from lies.
Best of luck, but you're an observer in this family drama. I can say all this because I have the same dynamics going on in my own family, as do most of the people here on GAW.
Your mom likely needs to deworm. Parasites effect body, mind, and health.
Truth^^^^^
Must be what's wrong with my wife. She can be a total hag sometimes.
I’m so sorry, reading this made me cry, I feel for you so much. What a horrible, difficult, heartbreaking time for you and your family. I have no advice, just sending love and wishing you strength through it all xx
Tell your mother to start taking stuff to build her immune system. I heard if you taken 15,000 IU of D3 every day you can't catch covid. It changes the receptor site and prevents covid. Tell her to take Elderberry, Astralagus, Camu Camu, Vitamin C ascorbate of liposomal vitamin C. Chaga mushrooms are good for the immune system, Garlic, ginger, lemons, honey are good for the immune system. Hand hygiene is most important. Keep your fingers away from your face if you are not sure and wash your hands before you pick your nose or wipe your eyes. Tell your dad to lie and get him a fake covid card to show your mother.
I wouldn't put too much faith in that. I was already taking 10,000 IU of D3 each day when I got covid. Granted I didn't die but the D3 didn't prevent infection.
Also, if you are on high dose D3 you need to be taking magnesium as well, otherwise you can get muscle cramps and/or migraine because your body uses more magnesium.
Question is did you get covid or did a pcr test tell you it was covid? Also would that prophylactic treatment also help against the stuff causing false positives? If second is true then you're right. Another note is 15,000 is not 10,000.
“Do [x] or the relationship is over.”
The relationship is already over; you’re being told.
If he gets the !vaxx, he'll never get her back. It's a shit-test, and she'll despise him for being weak enough to buckle to her. He probably won't get her back anyway, because she has already hardened her heart.
Of course, I don't know any of these people, but it's a very recognizable pattern. Women do this. Tell your dad the clotshot will be the final nail in the coffin, not the salvation of it.
(Also, I just said a prayer for the saving of this marriage. God bless, fren.)
🙏🙏🙏
Invite your father to stay with you. It may be an opportunity to show him the facts...and may save his life.
Sorry to hear this. Have you told your Mom that the vax does not stop anyone from carrying and transferring the virus to her? Your Dad getting the vax has no impact on her, it can only hurt or protect the one who takes it.
I still have battles with my wife about not wanting her to get the vax. The fact that Women are the first to go along with the lies is not surprising, the same thing happened 10,000 or so years ago in Eden.
Prayers to your family, especially with your sister and baby. I have many in my family that have taken the jab, the only thing you can do is give them your opinion. Once they take it, there is no reason to discuss the issue any further. Simply support them, whatever comes there way.
Lastly, I am not sure of your families faith and beliefs, but bringing your Mom and Dad closer to God is the best thing you can do. Fear of death is not a phobia Christian's should have.
Hey, man. I've gotten through to some Ivermectin horse deniers using Quercetin. It's essentially the same thing, a strong antioxidant and protease inhibitor.
Let you sister know that Quercetin is an antioxidant, and that it's made of concentrated plants that build the immune system (blueberries, green tea, cranberries, etc.) You may be pleasantly surprised by how open people are to taking what it basically a multivitamin, but has the same effect as Ivermectin (just not as strong).
For your dad, I can only offer prayers. My best advice would be to offer to let him move in with you. Keep your sane family close and safe. Tell him you don't want to see him get vaxxed because it's a huge mistake, and he shouldn't make it for someone who will probably find a new excuse to leave later.
If she is using that approach you describe with him, shes done with him already and just seeing what she can squeeze from him before she bounces.
He needs to turn the tables and tell her to get, that no one tells him what to do and there is the door. Simple and to the point, if that is how you feel lady, then get out, I'm done with you.
Sounds like Genesis Ch 3 being played over. The few men in my family that “ate the forbidden fruit” only got it because of the pressure from the “Eve” in their life. Some things never change
Others have already said it, but it sounds like your mother has already made up her mind and is fishing for an excuse to make herself feel better about it.
I would be brutally honest with her about how her actions make you feel. Let her know that while you’ll always love her, but if she continues down this road you’ll lose all respect for her. She needs to see the cost of this upfront and not as regret afterwards.
Best of luck fren. These are brutal times. It’s stories like this that makes me believe that once the tables turn, there will be no forgive and move on with many of our doctors, lawyers, police, and politicians who were in a place to do the right thing and did nothing. We will remember.
Don't let your Father do it, talk to him. Your Mom is lost, try to save your Dad.
Good luck, we are all suffering great trials, seeing Family being taken by Evil. Your Father cannot save his marriage with the fake vaccines, he can only lose himself.
I understand Love, I have fought very great battles to keep my own marriage together, having married before God I do not believe in divorce. Obviously your Mother does, she chooses something else. It is too late for her, the Fear has her.
I understand her immunity weakness, the fake vaccine makes that worse not better. Pray for her but she has already chosen poorly. Have her attend to her will now while she can.
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Do you live in Commiefornia ? Man, you should do some work about your son.
Like men avoiding taking part in upbringing their children. Come on maybe it is "Teenage rebellion" but the point is YOU shall be authority more trusted by YOUR SON than those "ellite" paedophiles,thieves and murderers.
Use low doses of smaller redpills for your kid. Not powerful ones,but the purpose is saving your kid,and the way to achieve this is making him thinking critically ESPECIALLY about "ellite" "social authorities" OUTSIDE your family.
By the way: your kid shall listen this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCBNwGHPZ2M but not force him.It shall be "accidental". Arrange it somehow. He shall hear those about big pharma especially.
Also: don't forget to complain about government fucking up things. Avoid openly disagreeing but undermine his wrong opinions with arguments, best arguments being questions.
Send her a couple tubes in mail and tell her to keep on hand. If she gets covid and in dire straits she might try it. Also if she took the shot she is more immune compromised now not less
People who would employ this kind of emotional manipulation are NOT doing the right thing, are NOT on the right side of history, are NOT children of God, and I will NEVER make deals with them.
Make no mistake, this is her "out". Anyone, man or woman, who puts an unreasonable demand on their spouse "or else" is looking to end the relationship.
Your dad is in a catch-22: either choice he ends his position of respect.
My small family is hopelessly and permanently divided on this issue as well. Healthcare worker in the family. Even after this is over it’ll never go back to the way it was. It’s like a forest that’s burned down. All we can do is plant the seeds for a new forest with our children, the forest we knew is gone forever.
My family was doing okay until yesterday. My sister withdrew from all family chats that I am on because I angrily talked about the 4 of us having to get shots to keep our jobs on one of them. She had already withdrawn from a lot of family interaction but now I know it was due to me. As a family we pretty much avoided politics on chats and FaceTime anyway because I know me talking about it is too much. But now my uncle and mother are more red-pilled and asking questions.
I am shattered. (I only have one sister.) There were some other simmering issues that I was going to talk about with her when this all ended - but it’s drug out way longer than I hoped. I don’t know if it will ever be fixable now. I am waiting to cool off and doing a lot of praying. We used to be close but no longer. This could have been solved by a simple request to set boundaries. I will reach out once I’m not so angry and upset by recent events (daughters announcing they will get vaccinated if forced, the 2 of us preparing to possibly lose our jobs...) but I don’t know what will happen.
We have a very small family so this is so hard.
I’ll pray for you anon. These are insane times.
Thank you! I never envisioned it would be this hard and hit my family like this. 😢
Yeah I thought my family was special too. Nope.
It’s an argument for the existence of a soul for sure. I know didn’t get my character from my genes!
Sorry, but this is what I read:
Wife: Commit suicide or I leave you!
Husband: k
Immunocompromised is no excuse. Roast away!
I doubt my country will be enacting such for time being because we have our own Donald Trump and media likes being contrarian. We'll see after this election.
Your dad needs to follow his convictions. Your mom is immunocompromised and vaxxed. His vax status has no bearing on hers because even the government tells you it doesn't prevent covid or the spread. I agree with others that this is something she is using as a tool. Only she can decide if she wants to continue the marriage. I know your dad is probably heartbroken, but there is no reason to endanger himself just to please your mom, who won't believe the information that is right in front of her.
I am a woman and I've seen the liberal brainwashing "strong woman" propaganda stuff cause many women to dispose of wonderful men. You better tell your mom very quickly that for every Melissa whats-her-nane, there's 3 Gwen Stefanis waiting in the wings to appreciate her man and take him permanently. Until she's a lonely old lady, she won't figure out how many lonely ladies are out there. FACT.