The Treachery of VP Mike Pence Explained
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Yeah. Its hard, if not impossible, to refute the raw facts in OP's linked article. Then on the other hand, there is the whole Chris Miller "most complex military operations I've ever been involved with", devolution angle.
Pass the popcorn please.
Controlled opposition works both ways. Trump knew moles and snakes were aiming for him so why not design a cage where they feel free to act out. I don’t know any more than anyone here but that would be a 5D chess move.
Moves only our grandmaster Orange Man Rad can make.
Is there any evidence Trump has ever played regular chess?
I think he did once, when he was 3yrs old. But he embarrassed his opponent so he decided he'd only play 5D chess after that.
His name? Bobby Fisher
Trump only hires the best people, he said it himself.
Hence, every person in his cabinet who supposedly stabbed him in the back was actually just playing a role. Every single person in his Administration were in on this operation, I feel it in my bones.
McMaster, Priebus, Haley, Bolton, McConnell wife, Mattis, Kavanaugh, Pence, Barr.... THE BEST!
It seems like the article proves the opposite is true. The people who supposedly stabbed him in the back actually did so. They were there to take him down.
He LET them do it, is what we're all here hoping our asses off
But why would Trump deliberately let the covid BS get blown up from nothing into everything?
The sheep are in deep sleep, the pLandemic woke up a lot of them...
Next phase: #TheGreatAwakening, see Trucker Convoys WW: FREEDOM!
I just view it as shit that I cannot change, we'll see how the movie plays out. I thought Pence's Grand Rapids Speech on election morning/Trump's final Presidential rally was fire.
He said all the MAGA things and closed stating that the election was going to be how they pull the plug on the swamp.
I think Trump works the MAGA base like Vince McMahon worked wrestling fans. Sometimes you have to have a little bit of betrayal and faces turn heels to check the temperature of the room.
His debate versus Kamala was fire also. He shredded her, although admittedly that's not hard to do.
I remember that speech. I heard Pence speak at an event in NC. The speech at the events were all the same, except Grand Rapids. I saved the video. That night he ad libbed, "and we're gonna drain that swamp. The President likes to say, it's a little deep than we thought....but we found the plug, and tomorrow we're gonna pull it!". I'll never forget that.
Go to the 18:00 mark. https://youtu.be/1LmeM3W7Oxs
SO they pulled it? & that was 47 days before the election? So you are saying he's playing Judas as part of the plan?
What makes you think Chris Miller is a white hat?
Chris Miller knows a lot more about what's going on than Emerald or any other "reporters".
I think Pence played his role. It’s why Trump said that sometimes it takes courage to do nothing. Pence knew that he would be pissing off millions of people by doing nothing. But it had to be this way.
To this day there are people that say that Judas was part of the plan
God knows our end from the beginning, so it's hard to say what isn't part of His plan versus what are ripples on it.
Yes, the plan included the stolen election so it could be revealed and proven. Still don't like Pence, but not for this reason.
Me too. I think he was controlled by white hats at this point.
He got a letter at bush sr funeral
Not to draw parallels to the christ, but the plan for mankind required Judas to betray Christ. Then Judas jumped off a cliff shortly after and was disembodied by the trees beneath.
My take as well. A lot has been said about Pence and his possible role in human trafficking, or maybe he was blackmailed and forced to allow the trafficking. IDK the truth of it.
But I do think he had little choice on his role once he became VP. I suspect he was kept away from sensitive information for most of his term as VP, and instructed on how to act / what to do. I don't recall him showing up in very many pictures with Trump in the Q drops. Feel free to correct me on that.
Well, according to President Trump, he's a traitor. I'll take his word for it.
Where you land on Trump's pro-vaxx stance?
Not pro-vax. Pro freedom.
Like bump stocks and red flag laws?
The idea as presented is the vice president can pick the president. I know that is a simplistic description but it frightened me that the VP had that power. The democrats with that power would start a war. POTUS has been ahead of these people every step of the way. I trust POTUS and I dont believe he spent 4 years with pence knowing he was a traitor and then leave the entire countries future up to him.
Pence 'i know you are a traitor to the republic but you are really just going to have to come through for us on this one'
it does not make any sense.
a role https://brentcates.substack.com/p/one-more-attempt-to-decode-the-fake
this is my view as well, they are falling for the WWE fake fued
The only thing that gave me some pause about Pence being a DS traitor is this speech by Chris Miller but there is more pointing to Pence the Traitor than anything else. IMHO
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/acting-secretary-department-defense-chris-miller-thanks-vp-pence-efforts-complex-military-operation-history/
Wow, for people on the fence about Pence, this is a must read. Explains a lot and provides insights and context I never knew about. The GOP establishment must be destroyed. MAGA candidates only. Pence is toast.
Mike Pence is finished in politics.
Hopefully he is sent to Gitmo when the extent of his crimes have been revealed.
I hope they hang him on live TV for everyone to see, people need to see what happens to traitors, the punishment is laid out in the constitution, the penalty is death with no lesser sentence available.
Pence was a plant from the beginning and Trump did not pick him, someone else did. It would be interesting to find out who that was.
This. Just like when Reagan won the nomination, Bush was not his VP pick either. The GOP put him on the ticket. That’s their insurance policy to stay in control. Why do you think some lunatic tried to kill Reagon out of the blue?
cuz he was bringing down the Bolshevikz USSR
same reason they killed kennedy
I love hanging out with all you knowledgeable deplorables!
yeah. as interesting as all the other angles are, this one reigns supreme IMO.
Whatever happened to Rinsed Penis? He was picked to be, I believe, chief of staff?
And wasn't he the one that Trump hired the Mooch to basically Kamikaze into?
I hope we get to hear the whole story some day. He was too kind to people who were out to get him. I'm sure he knows better when he comes back.
It was Reince Priebus.
Paul Manafort was the main person behind picking and introducing pence to Trump.
I sure hope when Trump comes back he doesn't trust anyone or anything but his own instinct. He didn't become one of the most powerful business man in the world without a good radar.
I am in “The fly don’t lie” camp.
Yep. Flies know shit like tribbles know Klingons.
Here's a counterpoint post also on substack:
A Perspective on the Trump/Pence "Feud" - By Brent Cates.
https://brentcates.substack.com/p/one-more-attempt-to-decode-the-fake
https://greatawakening.win/p/141YE1mCg6/a-perspective-on-the-trumppence-/c/
I'm taking the wait and see approach until the day we finally get the clarity we need.
It would be nice to see the proponents of both theories discuss each other's points directly.
The points suggesting Pence is good do not address or cancel out the points suggesting Pence is bad and vice versa. That's why it is so hard to get a good read on good vs. bad.
I lean toward 'bad', but both sides raise strong arguments.
thx for cates link. this is good too- https://patelpatriot.substack.com/p/devolution-part-8
posted this as well...i like the cates brothers. i dont think Trump would be "forced" to pick a VP he didnt want....he coulda easily went with a Newt Gingrich or something if he didnt like pence
Interesting article from Cates.
Though I note the symbolism of Pence wearing a blue tie on the day, rather than a red or even neutral colour tie...
Accused child molester n murderer. Overthrowing the country was just another day in the life of Pence.
i accuse you of child molesting... are we blindly believing everything Lin wood/simon parks type says now?
did you miss the part where a guy on youtube in 2016 called out Pence for being a pedo torturer of little boys which he witnessed first hand and within 4 months he was mysteriously dead from mysterious bout of poisoning?
His videos are still on youtube (sorry i forgot the name of him!) but remember this was 2016 so before Trump even won his first term and way before Q. And he was already being accused of Satanic connection to the Cabal...
Lin asked questions and said that the multiple accusations need to be looked into. Confident obviously, he’s an attorney, he knows the repercussions of slander I’m sure. We’ll see👍
But is that disinfo as part of the plan as cover to make Pence look like part of the deep state? I don't know either way, but hopefully the truth will come out.
If Pence threw out the votes, the precedent for the future would be unfathomable.
It had to be this way.
Yes, and Trump said so in his Jan 6th speech : something along the lines of "it will take more courage for Pence to do nothing."
IMO; Pence cut a deal and was promised the 2024 GOP nomination for the presidency. PENCE SOLD OUT AMERICA to the globalists. (The stupid guy actually kicked himself out of office!) Who would do this knowing the corruption in the election fraud?
I think Trump had intel comms on Pence and his alignment with the corrupt RNC/GOP globalist party. Trump knew how Pence would vote, but was hopeful that he would do the right thing and send the electors back for re-certification.
Pence couldn't do that because he's compromised. He's got some blackmail info cloud over him and Trump knows it. Now we have a party divided.
TRUMP/MAGA vs PENCE/GOP The party is divided.
Follow the $$$ - donations!
I just started to read this. Seems like she is trying to rewrite history.
The answer is simple. Trump fired Flynn. Pence had no authority to do so.
Trump tweeted about this months after it happened.
She wonders how Pence knew about Flynn phone call.
I know the answer to that. It was big news. It came out on Jan 12 Jan. 12 — The Washington Post reports that Flynn and Kislyak spoke on Dec. 29, the day that the U.S. announced new sanctions on Russia in response to the cyberattacks during the 2016 presidential election.
This is what caused Pence to speak to Flynn. On Jan 15 Flynn was interviewed on CBS and was questioned about Flynn's phone call.
So she got the timeline wrong. Nobody had to ask about how Pence was informed about Flynn's private conversations. We know this. Flynn spoke to Pence after the phone call came out in the news.
The idea that a mere FBI agent pushed Pence to fire Flynn is silly. Nobody at the FBI has influence over White House decisions. And we know it was a senior DOJ official who told the White House Flynn lied to the FBI. And Trump admitted he knew Flynn lied to the FBI which is a crime. A crime Flynn plead guilty to.
This is like the easier part of the Flynn affair to understand.
Thanks for all of this. I'm still waiting to know the end of the story regarding Pence. To this day, I'm still willing to consider that he acted without betraying.
Can you EXPLAIN what the lie was? Everybody on the Left says he lied, but nobody says what the lie was.
Could it be that criminal FBI agents are allowed to offer OPINIONS that they are being lied to?
Could it be that special prosecutors are allowed to ask the same question dozens of times, then decide they're being lied to if any jot/title is related in different ways?
I know you're busy over on that other thread, defending John Podesta's art collection, but could you explain exactly WHAT the lie was?
Bonus question: Why do you think General Flynn's list of pedophiles in government would be so irritating to Mike Pence?
So what did Flynn lie about is an easy question.
The much more interesting question is if as Flynn swore to, he knew he was lying AND he knew lying to the FBI was crime, then why did he do it?
The answer to that is quite interesting. And has to do with how he stayed out of jail.
Of course I can state what the lie was. You don't need to be on the left to heard what the lie was. The lie was clearly stated in General Flynn's guilty plea that he signed under penalty of perjury and every news report about his guilty pleas.
Flynn's plea bargain document was released publicly. When they take your case to a grand jury, they get an indictment. But if you plead guilty, they put out a "Statement of Offense." It includes Flynn admitted under oath to the crimes
Lie #1 FLynn lied about talking about sanctions with Russian ambassador
Lie #2 He lied about telling the Russians how to vote at the UN
Lie #3 He also admitted lying on his FARA forms, but this charge was dropped as part of his plea deal.
https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-flynn-64
Flynn's statement of offense https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1015126/download
Flynn swore under oath that these facts were true and he was "in fact guilty."
https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1015126/download
When he went to court to be sentenced a year later. The judge asked him AGAIN if he knew he was committing a crime, if he had any problems with his lawyers, or if he had any problems with how he was treated by the FBI and again he swore UNDER OATH, he was in fact guilty and was treated well.
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So if you were paying attention, it's clear what the lies were and that he swore under oath twice he was guilty of these crimes.
FOR REAL ... THIS NEEDS TO BE STICKIED
I don't know if Pence or Miller can be trusted anymore. The entire government seems to be infected and infested from top to bottom. It seems to me the only reason this is taking so long is that the corrupt government is more interested in saving itself than stopping the commies, traitors, and more specifically the Bolcheviks.
Is Pence a DS Informant?? A useful puppet??? A former enemy turned whitehat??? Who knows.......But I do miss the Johnny Quest memes :(
Pence is a cocksucker in more ways than one.
I wouldn't care about Pence's fascination with sucking dicks if he didn't force us to watch this disgusting porno of the media fellating an old delusional beady eyed shell of a man.
we know Pence is a shit. And why would i follow her Twitter?
She would be better off posting in here herself.
Again, I don't think Trump's statement is a direct attack on Pence. He does not rip into Pence the way he rips into Hillary, or Nancy, or Mitch.
Brent Cates has an interesting piece on Pence's options on January 6.
Most reporting makes it sound like Pence had 2 choices,
He instead allowed states to DEBATE their dueling slates of electors. He was willing to allow all states with dueling electors to do their debates.
Within MINUTES of Pence allowing states to do that, the mysterious pipe bombs appeared.
When that was not sufficiently disruptive, the protesters were then allowed into the building, which DERAILED the constitutionally allowed debates.
They then hurried the process up with their already selected Biden slates of electors.
https://brentcates.substack.com/p/one-more-attempt-to-decode-the-fake
Maybe he is right saying this is kabuki.
Never forget that Mike Pence and his lover Paul Ryan wanted Trump to not run so they could take his place.
Mike Pence is a TRAITOR!
Trump is not stupid. If Pence was not playing a part--whether forced or not---Trump knew all this and let it play out.
I wish he would stop saying "overturn the election" It's an admission that he lost and it looks weak.
I have never bought into the big load of assumptions from the cryptic comment made by Chris Miller. What Pence did speaks volumes. Still waiting for him to make things right. He must have gotten paid off. I consider him a traitor along with Romney and No Name.
I don't know what Mike Pence's role is but it appears this had to happen.
We are watching the entire government right across the board fail the citizens of this country.
We are being shown that the entire system is completely corrupt.
'you can either go down in history as a patriot, or you can go down in history as a p---y'.....
"Overturn the election"? No. Reject invalid state Elector certificates. The accusation against him was that he was trying to overturn the election. "Overturn" has a nefarious connotation. Reject. Invalidate. Refuse to certify. Etc. If Trump is this bad of a writer, his advisors need to write for him because moronic sounding shit like this unnecessarily gives his opponents ammo.
yeah that was a really bad form of phrasing. its baffling
Wow. Hell of an article!
This person builds a case based on people Pence had on his team of staffers. It asserts this was not some kind of planned infestation of the Pence organization, or corruption of them, but rather that Pence was in some way guilty by association due to his preferential selection of them.
I'm not buying it.
a little off-topic, but still related...has anyone located proof that J6 was organized by Dems, Black Ass-Hats, Cabal, etc.? Or are we saving the proof for the "right" time? If there are any posts discussing the subject please direct me to them. Thx
Trump was selected to be Potus. They also select the VP as backup just in case. These are facts. He also won 2016 anyway via votes but they didn't want HRC. Pence was selected for Potus.
1.https://searchvoat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3042339/16841395 2.https://searchvoat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3042339/16843806
No 2 goes into 25th amendment. This is also very instructive on how it might haunt the current resident.
3.https://searchvoat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3843054 Any new belief system runs into opposition. In December 2018, Matt Patten, a veteran SWAT-team sergeant in the Broward County Sheriff’s Office, in Florida, was photographed with Vice President Mike Pence on an airport tarmac. Patten wore a patch on his tactical vest that bore the letter Q. The photograph was tweeted by the vice president’s office and then went viral in the QAnon community. The tweet was quickly taken down. Patten was demoted. When I knocked on his door on a gloomy day in August, no one answered.
Remember that? .....
Note by whom it i said to have been tweeted ......Take a wild guess.
Who will be the new VP pick?
Im hoping for Roger Stone or Joe Exotic, they both have a passion for MAGA that can't be faked.
Jr
While I generally like Emerald and her reporting, she's just dead wrong on this one.
That’s right. All planned. Too many just to not see it. It is about trafficking children. I know Zucker was a President of CNN for a reason. All these powerful people are Pedos.
Each day that passes, I am more and more sure that this is all planned.