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New CCTV Footage Shows The Moment The Champlain Towers Collapsed In Surfside, Florida- There Is Speculation That McAfee's Files Were In That Building (www.usasupreme.com) McAfee connection is rumor
posted 3 years ago by conservativeamerica 3 years ago by conservativeamerica +506 / -1
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– Lapstrake 90 points 3 years ago +93 / -3

I doubt this has anything to do with McAfee. Collapsing a building would not be a very good way to ensure the destruction of data. A flash hard drive or thumb drive could easily survive. You will need to find it to verify it had been destroyed. You would be drawing world wide attention to your crime. Buildings in the USA don't often just collapse, much less luxury apartment buildings.

What interests me about the video is how the middle collapses and leaves the end piece. The end piece wobbles a bit then stabilizes. Then it just turns into jelly. It reminded me of WTC 7. It seems improbable that a tall thin structure like that would fall neatly into its own foundation without falling over.

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– dty6 50 points 3 years ago +50 / -0

yes, WTC 7. Notice how the article "debunks" the flashes as electrical shorts rather than obvious detonation.

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– Lyonessrising 37 points 3 years ago +37 / -0

Having been to more than 30 demos w my ex..those are demolition sprites. Maybe the computer that activates the deadman switch was in that building.

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– worldowedexplanation 13 points 3 years ago +14 / -1

Isn’t it easier to go steal a computer than blow up a whole building? This is straight out of Enemy of the State

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– GA-Peach-Patriot 7 points 3 years ago +9 / -2

I thought his files were digital anyway, no?

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– truthloveliberty 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Maybe they stole the computer and then blew up the building to destroy evidence of their theft?

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– Quixotic 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

or as lesson/to make an example/send a message etc

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– rma92 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

More than 50 miles away.

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– user2827 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Sad that they still use the pancake theory from 911. Lucky for them that the average grasp of physics is minimal.

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– Duckhunter1960 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

The "average grasp of physics" is maybe part of the saddest part of all of this. If we fucking educated people, for real, in our schools....everyone would have a grasp and 95% of this shit would be exposed. Stupid people are killing us from all directions.

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– user2827 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I've said the story before, sorry if to you.

1st year engineering, first test on boolean logic was told no calculators because that's too easy.

Guy comes to me and asks for help because he can't multiply decimal numbers. Literally his example was 0.2x0.5, I helped but inside was freaking because this guy was in engineering, and now is actually practicing (nepotism and an extra year).

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– Duckhunter1960 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That is jacked. Hopefully he's not working for a safety company! Our educational systems are 100% trash.

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– user2827 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

IIRC, his family owned a business focused on lighting designs and specs for office buildings.

Luckily, until considered professional there are multiple checkers before any commitments get made.

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– DeathRayDesigner 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

The "pancake theory" is just fine. Once you get column buckling started, it is a chain reaction. Also similar to crack propagation: a local overstress that keeps on advancing.

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– user2827 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Sorry, I should have clarified, the theory is valid. The outcome would look so drastically different that nobody could ever discuss explosives as part of the equation.

TTTTTTTTT I I I I I I I TTTTTTTTT -> I I I I I I I TTTTTTTTT I_I_I_I_I_I_

(I doubt things align properly)

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– DeathRayDesigner 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Not "obvious." No shock wave. No reason for a light show.

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– Lapstrake 27 points 3 years ago +30 / -3

I'm thinking about Directed Energy Weapons from space. Tuned to melt steel. The first pass hit the center of the building. Then it was used to take out one of the side pieces. Perhaps the other side was too close to another building to safely use it without taking some of the neighbor building also. Because there would be no way to explain that.

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– GodWins_76 18 points 3 years ago +19 / -1

That was my first thought as well. Also we had the cross bridge in DC fall yesterday as well.

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– 1KewKlew7 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Pedestrian bridge on Baltimore collapse too above Rt295

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– MarkusCincinnatus 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Using space laser to AstroTurf some support for the “infrastructure” pork bill

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– Lord_Moo 17 points 3 years ago +18 / -1

It is very likely not a DEW from space, if you have a satellite in space, the lowest orbit ones are 160km from Earth. Even if you focused that frequency, which would affect steel, which would likely be it's resonant frequency which is under 1Mhz would have a large wave length. The larger that wave length is the larger the focused array has to be. A 1Mhz frequency alone is 300m, they don't have satellites that big.

Also, for a building to be targeted with just it's steel remotely like that you'd need to take in effect the entire building and it's materials, as other materials would inhibit the resonance of just the steel. Higher density > lower frequency, higher stiffness > higher frequency.

Also with frequency there is a steep drop off of power over distance. Although low in frequency it can travel far, the power behind that frequency would not be very strong, you'd need a monumentally large power source, and dish in order to focus a directed energy weapon to take out a building like that, high tech or not it's bound by physics. You don't need a strong signal to receive with a receiver, but in order to have a transferrence of energy, well, even if the signal drops 10dB that's 10x less power. How much power do you need to obliterate a building? no idea, I assume it's a lot. I say obliterate because in that video if that's low frequency energy weapon then that's straight up a weapon of mass destruction, they'd do more with that if they had that.

DEWs are cool in theory but mostly science fiction if you're thinking satellites. I can see some applications that they have an effect but not strong enough to destroy a building that focused from 160km away, with a frequency with a wavelength of 300m. The parabolic reflector must be larger than the wavelength, so 300m+ dish in space might a bit of a problem being discrete.

Likely if this was an energy weapon of sorts, if you choose to believe so, it's much closer than you'd think. also you'd have to take into account that when we do see steel start to lose it's integrity it isn't nearly instantaneous like what we see here. If it was then holy hell, mega death satellite in space kinda means ultimate power to anyone on the surface.

Not trying to be a downer, but although it's not directed related to my field, I'm an electrical engineer who works in the cellular field, I mostly did a ton of google fu to reiterate the concepts that I am not very versed in, but it's easy to say it's a bit more science fiction than reality. DEWs exist, but their power, strength, range, scope, are all more limited than you'd imagine.

TLDR; I nerded out on some science stuff, likelihood of DEWs from space are almost 0 to be the culprit, frequency isn't magical it makes a lot of sense, just gotta wrap your brain around some universal concepts and apply it to a new medium.

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– Lapstrake 13 points 3 years ago +14 / -1

I'm a physicist with a masters. I confess that I haven't analyzed DEWs.

But I don't think you need to be when you look at images like this.

https://files.catbox.moe/j5s0k5.jpg

or this

https://files.catbox.moe/qugema.jpg

or this

https://files.catbox.moe/9ciybd.jpg

I don't buy it that there are forest fires.

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– Lord_Moo 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Yea I didn't really analyze DEWs all too much besides what I believe to be the theory behind them, which is a beam from space.

I'm just asserting It's likely not a satellite. Energy weapons exist, and in fact are really fun to theorize, but to get something to work from space to hone in on a signal to take out a building is just very unlikely.

That being said, I would say that starting a fire is definitely feasible, Higher frequencies can be honed into a tighter beam, making the energy and focal point very direct. Would that take out a building with what seems to be raw force? No. Do I think they could burn it? Oh for sure, but there are many counter measures to that so it's probably why it isn't super practical to always use.

Now I do think the idea of a fire causing some of those can be done, maybe not likely but that doesn't always mean it didn't. Also, hate to say it, but pictures aren't enough evidence to conclude alone that "it must have been the DEWs!"

I was pretty skeptical of the whole fire scenario when that stuff was going down, definitely foul play imo. Just doesn't have to be DEWs.

I'm in no way a resident expert with them though, but I feel as though there would be some very specific signs to investigate. Like, if it was a beam how does it operate? How does it burn exactly? Is it the focal point of frequency? What kind? Is it even EMF? or is it something else? If it's EMF then the specific frequencies would affect some materials but not others possibly. Idk, I just kinda doubt it, if you had a fire starting laser what would you do with it?

But in no way did it take out a building, it just seems too far fetched, the fires I give it a plausible since i haven't looked more into myself. Not trying to be all skeptical Sam, but I'm just trying to direct things in a more productive way, ya know? I don't think it's harmful to reshape other possibilities. Personally, I just think it was something like thermite or something to simultaneously burn thru the supports. Also to choose to make the building collapse vs just burning it where you know what your target is seems like a very valid way to not guarantee destruction of what your target was. Fire would likely be a better way.

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– DeathRayDesigner 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

We can agree that space-based lasers are not present. But, for your information, the destructive effect against steel (or any other metal) is purely through the application of heat. It has nothing to do with "higher frequencies."

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– Lord_Moo 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Umm... Yes it 100% has to do with frequencies. I mean, technically yes you can throw any amount of energy into a frequency and aim it at something and it will have some sort of effect, but there's something I may want to bring to your attention and that is the physical characteristics of an antenna and it's effect on frequencies, especially in the electromagnetic spectrum and it's ability to receive and transmit energy. This handy device is called an antenna.

Now EVERTHING is an antenna, to some regard, if steel in a particular shape, or type of material receives at a different frequency, you'll have more efficiency using that frequency.

But saying you're shooting a beam, what frequency would YOU use? Gotta pick something, might as well make it damn efficient to take out a building.

The only way we take frequency out of the equation is if the beam is not actually a beam and uses some other kind of technology using a different form of energy.

You could also just like... I don't know, send so much energy across a broad spectrum and just melt stuff, but as you might guess, would take up more than a literal shit ton of energy and would likely have signs of melting across all objects, not just steel, or you can fine tune it to effect just one thing.

Think X-Ray, we specifically use these because it's easy to go thru skin, but reflects off bone, giving us an image of bone directly. We use just a flash, it's a really high frequency, therefore, lots of energy/short distance, but we want different materials to react with it differently and use that information to deduce some sort of information. If you're going to destructive aspect, you can blast someone with radiation in the x-ray range and give someone cancer, say like 1,000 times more energy (idk im not a biologist) but 1000x more energy for such a short distance just to give a little bit of cancer and not melt someone first... you get my point right?

I figure DeathRayDesigner would have known that... But death rays may vary in technology? idk man, frequency is the key to most everything in terms of energy an things ranging from radio to x-rays, even to visible light.

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You are making big assumptions. If you are talking about acoustic frequencies matching with structural resonant frequencies, that is called amplitude amplification and is a well-known failure mode. Lasers have nothing to do with acoustic frequencies. (There is a way in which they might, but that technical approach has been abandoned for the past 50 years, and it is not clear that such an approach wouldn't also destroy the laser.)

Antennas are means of coupling with photons whose wavelengths are similar to the antenna dimensions. When the wavelengths get smaller, the the scale disparity makes the coupling go away. All radio wavelengths are larger than infrared wavelengths, and near-infrared wavelengths (modern laser weapons) are almost at visible optical wavelengths. But laser wavelengths are easily stopped by clouds and smoke, which is the main reason they are not very useful for attacking ground targets. The next reason is that any laser satellite would only have seconds to pass over the target area, and not return for 12 hours. Really difficult to schedule. Plus, we don't have them in space.

X-rays go through everything. They just get absorbed more by bone. X-rays are also absorbed and scattered by the atmosphere, so they are not likely directed energy weapons. Plus we don't have x-ray lasers.

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– Qasar 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

First picture reminds me of tornado scenes where one home can be more-or-less unaffected while next-door neighbor’s home has been completely demolished. It doesn’t make as much sense with fires.

Not following the second picture there. SUV with what? Burn mark of some sort? Transporting fire starter of some sort? Then last pic is not the SUV. Not sure the implication here. Can you elucidate?

That third picture is bizarre.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1
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– Lapstrake 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

The first pic is decipherable and striking. Are you sure it’s not from BLM riots with targeted arson?

Lol no. I got the images in 2017. Long before BLM

A truck with a dent towing a trailer,

No not a dent.

The point is that the trailer is burned. The tree with the green leaves is fine. The plastic trash bin is only slightly melted.

But yeah Mr. Joined 10 days ago with no posts.

Fuck off. There is nothing you can do to stop any of this.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– Lapstrake 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

No planes hit any buildings on 911

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– VetforTrump 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

What's worse is they covered up what I believe to be over 8k deaths.

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– ObamaSucks 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Can’t get any of your links to work

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– VetforTrump 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Why?

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– DeathRayDesigner -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

You might as well think about unicorns. They would be more likely. No DEWs in space. Technology is too cumbersome. We looked into it in the 1980s Strategic Defense Initiative. No hotspot. Stop obsessing over fantasy weapons.

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– Lapstrake 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Bullshit.

DEWs don't have be in space. They could be in aircraft or perhaps landbased.

The HAARP facility is exactly a DEW, in that it uses a phased array to send a tight beam of energy in an arbitrary direction. The official justification is to do atmospheric research. They can apply vast amounts of energy to heat the atmosphere. But they are all over the world in different forms.

Secret satellites are launched all the time. Because they are secret we have no idea what they are doing. What you are doing is gaslighting by being dismissive and derisive.

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– DeathRayDesigner -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Sorry, we don't have them running around like candy bars. They are useless through clouds or smoke. No evidence for them. Easier to invoke pixies.

HAARP is just a research tool for ionospheric study.

Classifed satellites are launched all the time, but the fact they are being launched is quite publicly visible. Since you have no idea what they are doing, you are in what is called a STATE OF IGNORANCE. And that's as it should be, for classified systems and activities. (Been there, done that.)

I am only disabusing the more ridiculous fantasies. If you ever contemplated how little you know about these matters, you would be less bold about making wild claims.

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– Lapstrake 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

No planes hit any buildings on 911

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Well, I can tell you haven't seen the videos. It was starlings, right? Why would you say something so absurd when there is photographic evidence and eyewitness testimony? And considerable wreckage, including the planes that crashed in the open field and the Pentagon.

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– Tree_Frog 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Interesting that the photos show the swimming pool relatively debris-free. That was a very neat "collapse."

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– VoxDawg 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

That was one of my first observations, after aerial footage looked like it was dropped via controlled demolition.

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– judypatriot 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Agreed. That stood out bigly.

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– Silver_lyning 6 points 3 years ago +7 / -1

What if its not to destroy but to recover?

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– Lapstrake 7 points 3 years ago +8 / -1

If so then I hope nobody actually died.

As of now I think around 50 people are unaccounted for, and at least some dead found.

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– p8riot 5 points 3 years ago +6 / -1

How does that giant building only have 50 people in it? Should be 50 per floor easy. DS doesn't care about killing innocent people. So this is looking more like a white hat operation.

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– Lapstrake 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I was thinking the same thing.

Perhaps the buildings owner was in debt and wanted to collect from insurance like Larry A. Silverstein got his money from the World Trade Center's insurers.

Perhaps inspectors had condemned it.

It is hard to see the point in bringing down an apartment building.

But why so few people in the building at 1:20 AM? Something isn't clear here. Expensive apartments don't sit empty.

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– Factfiler 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

My very first thought. It should be filled with people who are now dead in a pancaked building.

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– Qasar 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

In Florida they often do remain unoccupied during the summer months as many owners have properties in northern states where they go when it heats up. The owners are called snowbirds.

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– DesertBrat 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Exactly. My sibling has a place in a development in FL. I was just there and remarked how quiet it was. I was told that most of the units are empty this time of year.

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– Lapstrake 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

In Florida they often do remain unoccupied during the summer months

Bullshit. Many are rented out in the unoccupied season.

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– VetforTrump 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Floridians often leave in the summer. It's so humid they go north. Hopefully they were gone

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– GaIIowBoob 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I feel like if you have access to strap charges to the buildings foundation, you can walk off with hard drives

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– VetforTrump 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Didn't McAfee die only yesterday?

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– GaIIowBoob 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They've planned his death a long time. He's been fucking with ds for years

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– ObamaSucks 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Drawing attention has never stopped the deep state before

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– Lapstrake 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

911 was a huge operation, all super well-planned long in advance. The Airforce was involved, the FBI, and all the news networks including Fox News. Security at the 911 site was super air-tight.

I don't get a sense that this was anything like that.

If this building was taken down with demolition charges, expect high security to keep unofficial people away from the debris, and special care as to how the rubble is disposed of.

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– SemperSupra 53 points 3 years ago +54 / -1

Even if that were true, I doubt he kept all his eggs in one basket. The guy was paranoid. There would be more than one copy of anything he had.

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– CrimsonSentinal 27 points 3 years ago +27 / -0

100%. First rule of a deadman switch, multiple copies spread out far and wide. Just like your own personal data, have monthly backups in multiple locations.

Maybe John’s son was the intended target. But the deadman switch is most likely still out there.

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– Canadapoli 7 points 3 years ago +8 / -1

okay, i'm not a paranoied multi-millionaire with my program on 50%+ of the worlds computers, but if it were me...i would have a few humans with the data in hand and or lockboxes. They might not know what they've got, but they'd know it was important, and they'd have instructions of what to do next. I would also have people lined up who were interested in publishing it. regardless of how explosive the info is, you need a viable network to get it out. The blockchain idea is interesting (and would negate the need for any of this), but i think i would still have human backups with an old school strategy to make sure this was viewed as widely as possible. Like. That's just the basics if i was getting a dead man's switch together. Password. Hard drive. Bank safety deposit box (in a local credit union because fuck the bank). reporters who know generally that a big story drops in their lap if their old pal John gets deep sixed.

maybe that's just me tho.

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– FreeinFL2020 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This

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– Privatejoker 38 points 3 years ago +39 / -1

This will be memory holed just like the Nashville RV explosion

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– Heckles 26 points 3 years ago +27 / -1

I still think about that all the time. Such a weird event, and the message playing backwards, super spooky.

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– Rubieroo 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

That WAS weird. Another reminder of how incredibly bizarre the world REALLY is under the facade of normality. Also: the LA Blackhawk episode down Wilshire Blvd.

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– worldowedexplanation 5 points 3 years ago +6 / -1

And the way the cops walked right past it and talked about it being “like a movie set” and then they turned the corner and it exploded. Like a movie.

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– CrimsonSentinal 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So many questions. When the body cam officer gets to his patrol car and you hear officer 415 radio dispatch saying "we do not need fire on standby at this time" then a very robotic dispatch replies what sounds like the word "direct" and seconds later the building explodes. Feels like that was code for all clear, do it now. Plus the officers in general seem way too calm considering something just blew up, even if they knew it was about to.

On a whim I just plugged in 415 into Q Posts and it comes up December 21, 2017 and if you read posts all the way to Christmas Day 2017 it's just kinda weird what can be read into those drops. Posts leading up to Christmas mention AT&T and in another "Bombs away" obviously probably not related but still...

Here's the unedited body cam footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO2WD_9pCYY

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– liaBIGmd 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

What Nashville explosion?

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– AngelCole 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Christmas Day 2020 with the RV.

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– SpaceManBob 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Exactly.

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– glade 35 points 3 years ago +35 / -0

THE FILES ARE IN THE COMPUTER

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– Lyonessrising 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Or that computer activates the dead mans switch.

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– Suidlander 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The device "Voyager" in a Star Trek movie was monitering for whale sounds. It came hell bent for leather to Earth to see why it wasn't hearing them anymore. Perhaps the "computer" or person in the building was the "switch". If you have found the "switch", but not the files (assuming a virtual cloud), kill the switch. The files, unless lack of a periodic check of say an email acct it the trigger, then problem solved.

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– mrsray 17 points 3 years ago +18 / -1

i'm not believing that one

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– Fatality 16 points 3 years ago +17 / -1

when the other fell straight down.. it looked like WTC7

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– Quser17 18 points 3 years ago +19 / -1

Sure did. It looks like a demolition, like all 3 WTC buildings, not just #7.

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– Lyonessrising 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I've been to many demos. They are flashes from the charges that I'm certain of. I've seen old buildings here fall apart and Ive seen tons of demos..that's a demo . Still the one stays w me. Night before after clearing n boarding n securing the building we left returned the next day. We did our final sweep only to find an executed black male.....nothing like a dead body to hault demo.

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– Quser17 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Whoever put him there likely thought the demolition would literally cover up the crime.

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– BoatingAccident 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The FBI will cover it up though no worries!

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– Lapstrake 5 points 3 years ago +6 / -1

WTC 1 and 2 were brought down very differently than WTC 7

Remember that the top chunk of WTC 1 & 2 came down as an intact unit, pancaking each floor beneath it as it fell. Very precise timing for all the charges.

WTC 7 just turned to jelly. It started at the roof of all places, which was not near any fires and had no weight on it.

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– Quser17 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Couldn't the top part falling differently have just been an "error" with their calculations? I just remember watching it on tv in real time and it looked exactly like a demolition that I was able to watch just months before in my own town. So I assumed all 3 buildings were demolished by similar means. Mini nukes or something like that.

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– Lapstrake 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Oh I think they were all destroyed with similar means.

You can turn a steel frame building to jelly by taking out all the major beams at once.

But I think WTC 1 and 2, they took them out in a careful sequence as the top section of the building fell, to pretend that it was the momentum of the top chunk moving down that was destroying each floor.

Both require demolition charges on all the beams. The only thing that is different is the timing of the charges.

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– Quser17 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Interesting. I wonder what sort of "maintenance" went on in that condo to set up the demo.

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– ObamaSucks 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

And oklahoma Bldg with Timothy mcveigh

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– Quser17 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Which was also a false flag, imo.

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– ObamaSucks 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Roger that

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– polish_snausage 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That's what I thought of when I see the destruction there.

So sad

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– Quser17 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Buildings 1, 2 and 7 went down on 9/11.

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– Quser17 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I watched the 9/11 fake news media nonstop back in the day, then considered all the conspiracy theories that there ever were about 9/11. But not once did I ever hear any source (fake or otherwise) talk about building #6. I'm skeptical.

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– Quser17 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Absolutely, I do know that 911 was most likely an inside job. I watched on CNN a broadcaster in UK saying building 7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it actually happened. But I never heard about a building 6 going down. Are you saying 4 buildings went down instead of 3?

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– cbramwel 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

A sinkhole is a plausible explanation.

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– SBDAmerican 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Let's think about this. If McAffee was smart enough to get the info, design AV, make a Deadman switch, etc., why would he be stupid enough to store just one physical copy of his doomsday weapon? I'm not buying that. Black Hats did this, we just don't know why yet. But it wasn't about McAffee.

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– LBTrumplican2 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

So a condo in south Florida collapses and only 1 person died? This was planned.

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– GreatFunana 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

There are two trains of thought when it comes to data storage:

  1. Secure private colocated server spaces (server closets) with redundant sites controlled by you.

  2. Cloud based storage not owned to you, but with massive redundancy.

First, McAfee was a pretty brilliant guy. He did not store his resources in one place. He definitely stored it in one of those two places, or a combination of the two.

McAfee definitely did not trust the Deep State, that was obvious. Putting his private data on anything owned by anybody else would be a major red flag. However this crypto deployment deadman switch that is currently going makes it clear that he was smart about hiding his assets. He can definitely hide is data in plain site (so to speak) without issue. So hide it in any number cloud providers would not be beyond him so #2 is a possibility using crypto as a way to cover his tracks.

I also believe he probably had a couple of data dumps in colocated server spaces around the country if not the world paid in, you guessed it: crypto. So #1 is a possibility.

My point is this: I doubt he put his eggs in one basket. He was smart enough to have redundant storage using any number of means to make this data available, probably using both. My speculation anyways. He hated the deep state enough to do this sort of thing.

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– Bender4Prez 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Makes you wonder about the other server farms lately….is it election data? Or is it McAfee? Or did he have the election data?

Is a piece of it inside every copy of antivirus that downloads to your PC? I’m sure he left back doors for himself.

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– GreatFunana 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

While its pretty much been proven by our beloved pillow merchant data was passed around via the web, the sloppiness of the election steal tells me that security was not in mind. They never believed white hats would have access.

Beyond the servers manipulating the election, I doubt there was much data storage by patriots. I do believe evidence has been copied 100x over.

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– CrimsonSentinal 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

This.

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– Dreadnought61 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

That was a planned demolition of that building. No building collapses in on itself like that unless it was an implosion.

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– ObviousStatementMan 7 points 3 years ago +8 / -1

Maybe it wasn't to remove files... what if it was intended to take someone out who had them queue'd for release?

I dunno. But, buildings don't generally collapse into pancakes on their own.

Source: Building 7 on 9/11

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– ditzee58 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

No way McAfee only had hard copies of his information nor did he only have 1 digital copy. McAfee was/is a genius.

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– Ogcarvattack 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

No McAfee files. But there was a white supremacist's passport laying on the ground.

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– GDZeus 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This from our local fox news channel, has a longer video (1:29) and shows from birds eye view and then of them rescueing a child, thankfully still alive. Looks like at least one person has died. But it looks like it went straight down.

https://www.fox10tv.com/news/us_world_news/video-surveillance-footage-shows-moment-condo-building-collapses-in-florida/article_452db0f1-6504-558c-aa28-18651a0b8451.html?block_id=1002168

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– LiberalismIsTheVirus 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

What they'll tell us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuAKnbIr6TE

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– Bodiazrising 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

Seems like the only source for this speculation is in this headline. Fuck off with this shit.

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– PeaceAndLovePatriot 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That turned to sand... instantly. That was a space age disintegration weapon.

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– Rodger_Rabbit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The center of the building collapsed like it had no reinforcement. You might expect this if all the steel beams were cut. I don't think you would get that effect with a steel structure. It may occur if a sink hole was under the building. However, if the building was that ready to collapse, there would have been warning signs. The building would show cracks or floor would be tilted. This is not normal.
BTW I am not a civil engineer but I was an aerospace engineer with advanced structures background.

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– stormymonday 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Look familiar? They think we will just buy their bullshit https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/oklahoma-city-bombing

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– SJBHamilton 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And John McAfee would be fool enough to keep them all there?

I think not.

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– LoobintheToobin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

In my movie the enemy is up for destroy buildings to remove dead man’s switches they can otherwise not obtain. noms on popcorn

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– FreedomFlowerDelta 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Raise your hand if you keep all your precious information physically and don't use at least 1 backup....

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– GAMAGABOI 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

That agenda free tv dude is a total trump hating leftist too. Too and he wasnt there at time

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– jackrotten 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That is 100% a demolition job.

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– SuckaFree 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

No sources to go along with the WILD speculation that McAfee had files in that bldg. I find it unlikely, unless there's connections between him and a resident there. It's possible, but only time will tell with that, unfortunately.

As for the "flashes of light," most electrical sparks show up as either white, blue, or violet light, especially on a camera. Some may have been from electrical wiring, but most of those flashes were yellow, indicative of an explosion of some sort. Also, the way the bldg came down on itself, pancaked, AND literally pulverized the concrete says to my trained eyes that this was a "free fall" event. Just like the WTC bldgs.

Also, Dade, Broward, and Palm Bch Counties have some of the STRICTEST bldg codes for bldgs of any size, but especially bldgs over 5 stories. They're designed to withstand tornadoes and hurricanes with wind speeds over 250mph. They're also designed to withstand airplane hits and tsunamis. They have earthquake codes, but not as strong as the West Coast.

There's also no sign of sinkhole damage around the bldg. It came down into its own footprint. There's ONLY ONE way to bring a bldg that tall down into it's own footprint: a controlled demo.

I know this because I was trained to do this as a Navy EOD Tech. We don't just learn how to defuse and disarm explosives. We learn how to do it all.

The signs are apparent if you know what to look for.

This is DEFINITELY a FF.

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– Tree_Frog 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Deep State temper tantrum after a Big Patriot win, designed to shift the narrative on the MSM. Remember right after Kavanaugh was appointed to the SC, and there was that crazy limo crash in Schoharie NY? NYS is still holding back on records from the crash, which killed all 20 occupants of the vehicle. The owner of the limo service (who remains in Pakistan to this day), received money as an FBI undercover informant to set up Muslims to stage terror attacks after 9/11.

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– Fandigo 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

didn't think of this. sinkholes are very common in Florida. However, I assume the building's foundations went deep enough into the ground to factor this in, so the overall structure would still be fine even with the worst of sinkholes.

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– ITOLDYOUSO 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I don't know what was in it but that was a controlled demo.

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– BerlinWallCrosser 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Looks like a planned and executed implosion.

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– GuyWhite 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I lived in Dockside Condos, Charleston, SC. Dockside is four years older also built of reinforced concrete. Supposedly the first on the East Coast. I lived there through the discovery of rusting rebar bursting the concrete and the very expensive remediation. There were a number of assessments of $$10s of $$Millions to the residents.

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– intellectual-darkweb 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Demoed. Buildings (in America) don’t collapse like that for no reason.

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– FlyingScotzman 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Exactly, When on earth do buildings just randomly collapse like that without a fire or something? There was a windy storm but how? The buildings were built in 1981.

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