If you are a Patriot, what exactly do you have against Q researchers/followers/supporters?
You think we've been duped--that Q is just a CIA psyop designed to pacify us and keep us from doing what we need to do to take our country back.
Ok, so what exactly are we NOT doing that you ARE?
Because to me, from your tone and your intensity and your rhetoric it feels an awful lot like what you're saying is that what we SHOULD be doing is grabbing our guns and storming D.C. and all our state capitols and hanging the traitors by the neck and reinstalling Trump as President.
Is that not what you're saying? If not, what ARE you saying? What makes you, as a fellow freedom loving patriot, better than us? You apparently haven't been duped. So where's your army? Why haven't you stormed the castle gates yet?
Are you suggesting that the only reason YOU haven't stormed the castle gates already is because you haven't convinced US to yet? Because from the looks of it based on the numbers on PDW vs GAW, we're definitely in the minority. If that's what you think needs to be done, what's stopping you?
Could it be because you're full of shit? You may not realize it but like half the shit you guys say over on PDW implies that you buy Q's view of the world anyway. Seems to me you're just too chicken shit to really look into Q and/or too chicken shit to align with it because you don't want to look like an idiot to your liberal masters, or you're just scared of being hurt again like we all were when the election didn't go as we hoped.
So tell me, seriously, if I'm the delusional one, what is my delusion thwarting? How is my delusion holding YOU back from doing what you so clearly want to do? What are you doing today that you think we Q followers aren't already doing? Why come here and try to get the rest of us to be as upset and panicked and miserable as you are--what's the goal exactly?
As someone who used to think Q was all bullshit, anecdotal and personal opinion is that they are not able to let go of their ego because that is what was holding me back from actually digging into Q, reading all the drops and doing the research.
Once I swallowed my pride and started looking into everything, that is where it changed and you realized the most attacked thing tends to be the most correct.
Having to admit you were duped with the rest and realizing the way out of this cycle is actually getting involved locally and building community around each other is the real way to defy the government and become independent.
Most people would rather stay doomers and shitpost on PDW than do work, research and starting to build a local community.
This. Right here.
You don't actually need to accept or even know anything about Q. All you need to know is that it has been viciously, hysterically attacked and libeled by MSM.
That tells you it is wholesome and good for America and the patriots who love her.
Whatever they lavish praise on is utterly evil and destructive of America.
Whatever they ignore is vitally important.
Whatever they focus on relentlessly is totally insignificant, a distraction from what's truly important.
Remember the so-called "war" in Ukraine? Not hearing anything about that now.
Conclusion: It's going well for Russia, clearing out US-funded biolabs and freeing the Ukrainian people from years of brutal oppression at the hands of their own military forces.
Remember "Covid"? Not hearing anything about that now.
Conclusion: It's over. Can't use it as a weapon against the people any more. They're hoping you'll forget all about the genocide and other crimes against humanity being committed by drug companies, doctors, govt officials, etc.
Remember Trump? Not hearing anything about him now.
Conclusion: He was right—about EVERYTHING—and reminding people about him will remind them of this crucial fact.
Merely recalling that the media are committed enemies of the people makes interpreting the news 500% easier.
What stock does the media constantly attack? GAMESTOP GME.
That's how I knew my investment was sound.
Me too! How about Melvin Capital?! The announcement yesterday tells me big things to be revealed...and more will fall!
Oh it's coming, the market crash is going to be hyuge. Hpefully GME moons
AND DWAC . . .
Idk how much DWAC is shorted TBH. Not near what GME is shorted that's for sure.
My estimate of fake GME shares created by short hedge funds to suppress the price is 2 billion +/- 100 million. There are only supposed to be about 76 million actual shares.
I wish I had gotten into GME or even AMC early on, but then hindsight is a stolen election -- I mean -- 20/20!
What is DWAC? I’ve been told before but forgot.
basically the stock ticker for Trumps truth social conglomerate...
Digital World Acquisition Corporation -- President Trump's media company that has launched Truth Social and plans much more. Devin Nunes is at the helm.
A simple online search will yield more info. Here's one excerpt:
Since shares of the SPAC began trading in Mid-October at $10/share (the traditional issuance price of SPAC shares), DWAC experienced a volatile rise to as high as $175/share, representing a 1650% increase. It then briefly stabilized (if such a word may be used for a stock like this) around the $55-$75 range, but has since fallen to just below $40. Trump’s media and technology company, which shares of DWAC translate to ownership of, currently has no released products, but it has made a statement that its “mission is to create a rival to the liberal media consortium and fight back against the ‘Big Tech’ companies of Silicon Valley, which have used their unilateral power to silence opposing voices in America.” At this time, it appears that the Trump-owned company will create and publish its own social media platform, which will compete with Facebook (Meta), Twitter, and other digital platforms that have banned or suspended the former president’s accounts at or soon after the end of his presidency.
What is a SPAC?
SPACs, or Special Purpose Acquisition Companies, have been around for many years, but have exploded in popularity compared to two years ago. They are essentially “blank check companies” whose purpose is to find a private firm and use the cash provided from going public to acquire or merge with it (Investopedia, 2021). When investing in shares of a SPAC, particularly before a merger is announced, investors are really betting on the SPAC’s management team, anticipating they will acquire a good target company at a reasonable price. Sometimes, SPACs will target specific industries or sectors, such as environmental firms, electric vehicles, digital media firms (such as what DWAC is doing), but they can also leave their area of focus much wider.
I'm out of the loop due to work around the house. What happened?
Like flat earth?… :)
Media does not spend their time on flat earth.
Mirror
NAILED it, fren. SPOT on.
Ditto. Some still have the MSM brainwashing unconsciously calling Q BS. Its powerful when you dont realize its still a program operating in the baclground no matter how redpilled you think you are
This was my experience as a Q critic too.
I refused to talk about Q because I already had a bias against "conspiracy theorists." I was also exposed to information I wasn't ready for (throwing politicians in Gitmo for trafficking children), and disinformation that didn't come from Q (JFK Jr being alive). I thought it was all nuts, but I also knew something was off about the Dems desperation to destroy Trump. The covid lockdowns and BLM riots were obviously timed for the election. My mind didn't open until the election was overtly stolen. When the military descended on DC, I started reading Q for myself and my jaw dropped at how accurate it was.
In some form we were all duped at one time. Even those of us who believed Q in day one. Staying duped is what doesn't make sense.
You're arguing against fed bois and bots. It's a waste of time.
. . . being fags . . .
u/#trumptank
More gifs.
So they can spy, infiltrate, doom and relay info on us back to their creepy overlords
That is actually true.
While I was there (TDW era), we were catching and deporting lots of fed accounts. They were getting pissed, and a few even outed themselves, trying to find out how we were identifying them so quickly.,
Not hard. Especially the rhetoric ones who were trying to instigate physical violence.
They out themselves quickly because they act like caricatures of patriots.
Maybe I am. Maybe you're right.
Not all of them. However I would say a good majority. For the others who are genuinely falling for the narrative, THAT is who we are trying to reach. THAT is who we are trying to convince to expand their thinking.
Damn, everything about that post is a pure hopium injection.
Just a digital soldier, meme bomber., & PsyWar specialist.. on social medias..
Our mission is to wake up as many people, as humanly possible.. through thought & truthful propaganda.,
WWG1WGA
Point is understood, just remember
Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional response, rather than objective thought.
Understood.. the Agenda is to Wake the F up normies/ Libs/ and all people… to the Mass MKULTRA programming we have been subjected to, for the last 50yrs.. reverse programming
Your job may be to wake everyone up, some peoples job is to fight, some are to lead after the fight. The fighters are just trying to get everyone to hurry up bc they’re sick of the bullshit. I personally think it’s a waste of time to keep delaying the inevitable. The longer we wait the more fighters come in, the more $/resources they gain and we lose. I’m not against Q in anyway, I’m not convinced of it all either. I don’t think it’s a cia psyop. But the whole Q thing is too good to be true, like a holly wood movie. I’ll admit I haven’t really dug into it much but been along for the ride since the start. It makes more sense to me that it was just some anon that got in over his head and not an entire shadow military/government thing going on to save us. No one, but us is going to save us. The more black pilled fighters we got the better. I’m not a bot, I don’t work for any gov, I’m not paid to be here. I’m just a ready and willing, “rural rebel.”
We will win, if im here to see it or not, does not matter.
“I’ll admit I haven’t really dug into it much ” .. nuff said 5:5..
I have been “ digging” into it since the early 90’,s K-Marts putting in eyes.. // cameras… only to be bankrupt by WalMarts more advanced camera set up & America 1st few short years,,. Only to be invaded by MadeInChina
While I am equally as frustrated and wanting to fight to end all of this crap, I am also encouraged by all of the positive info I learn on here. It may not be on our timeline, but good things are happening, you just have to pay attention and keep your eyes peeled and pray for discernment and wisdom and the ability to trust in God and have faith and patiently wait on him while we encourage and build one another up and pray pray pray.
I’ve been accused by liberal extended family and friends (who have silenced me on their end now) of sharing and promoting government propaganda for sharing what I have pearned and gathered here.🙄🙄🙄🙄
Q is a white-hat psyop to point us in the right direction to do our own research.
They're just normies. We are awake. They can't handle the truth, so we are the news now....
These are just questions for them to think about. I doubt anybody will chime in with a good answer. If they do, great. If I'm wrong, I'd like to know. But something tells me we won't have many takers. Maybe I should take the question directly to PDW.
They won't know how to respond imho, critical thinking has escaped them, and they know it.
that last sentence though. FACT
What is a Q guy?
A lot of those in the Q crowd are full of crap, but that doesn't mean Q is. You'll have to tune directly into what Q says and not just goofy followers. Q said twice already that JFK Jr. is not alive, so there's that. Not everything happening in government is an act. Q said stuff like "you are watching a movie" and some people have made that out to mean that even the bad people are just acting bad but not really bad. Well then that would make Trump some sort of psyop himself if he's such a deceiver. It took me a while to figure out where to see Q's messages so I didn't really start following until maybe February 2018. I've seen so many people take things and run with them, saying stupid stuff. I see it on here, too. Q said "suicide weekend" once and we don't know what that means. Maybe somebody very important will commit suicide, or over a weekend several people will commit suicide? That's what I took it to meant. Yet on this very forum I see posts matter-of-factly claiming that there will be a mas suicide of thousands of people one weekend, and we cannot say for sure what will happen.
Or that sword dance that Trump did when he visited Saudi Arabia. Some goofball kept saying that it was some sacred ritual in which the Saudi king relinquished the sovereignty of his country over to Trump. No, I have an actual Saudi friend who lives in the country and he said it is a traditional folk dance for welcoming guests. But the story of making Trump the king of Saudi Arabia sounds spectacular, so people just repeat this bullcrap like it's gospel. So you can find some goofy grandma in a park holding a cardboard Q sign who will claim that the earth is flat, or you can look at what exactly Q said for yourself. THIS is the main problem with normie conservatives.
All I can say is stay clear of those who claim to have "inside connections" because they seem to be the biggest BSers. Simon Parkes, Charlie Ward, Ghost Ezra... there are many who make up crap because they are grifters.
No I don't think you're wrong. You're clearly running into people who are stating their theories as facts and nobody can blame you for being put off by that. I know I am. I always am. But there are Christians who annoy the shit out of me with their perspectives too but I still consider myself one.
Should post this on the other site and see what the response is and post back here letting us know
I am an occasional doomer, occasional hopium addict. I will try my best to answer.
I tend to believe Q, but sometimes doubt it. When I doubt, I don't think it's a CIA psyop designed to pacify us, but I do sometimes wonder if the storm and the Q are our collective fantasies of a justice that isn't coming.
I'm very doubtful of a shadow government, patriots are in control, biden being fake president, devolution theory. in the past year alone millions of americans have gotten the death jab, millions of children even. Real lives have already been lost. Inflation is out of control. Millions of illegals are coming into the country. Ketanji brown jackson is part of the SC. What kind of a plan would allow any of this?
Your belief in Q is not thwarting anything. I think Q gives hope and meaning to a lot of us, I am not here to take that away from anyone. But if I'm 100% being honest, it does feel that white hats aren't in control and the good guys will prevail at the end. That we just keep hoping that the white hats will play the trump card, play 4d chess, and create plot twist for this movie we're watching. But maybe life isn't a movie, and the elites will continue to subjugate us peasants as they have done since the beginning of history and all of us will die long before we see any justice or radical change.
This is a reasonable mindset and I can understand your feelings as I sometimes go there myself. But...
"What makes a good movie? Good actors?"
No, actually, good story. The actors just help bring it to life. My point is, things are so comically absurd right now that I refuse to believe any of it is genuine. It's convincing, sure, but none of what is outside my immediate area is real at all as far as I am concerned. Where I live, we have been back to normal since about fall of 2020. We stopped caring. And that is what I realized one of the main goals of this operation is.
First and foremost, I believe the goal of the Q op is to end the suffering of children world wide. To what extent? Human trafficking for sure. Beyond that, I don't know.
The second goal was to revive the spirt of 1776 by having us go through what we are now. In the last two years I have been labeled all kinds of things from different ideologies. The truth is, I started thinking for myself. Yes, I am still Team America, however I am not Team Majority Rule and I never will be. I believe Jefferson has the right idea about liberty. These woke folk and trans gender folks are allowed to live and identify how they wish. That is their business. Where I draw the line is influencing children. But ultimately I do not care if leftists want to have their parades and protests. That is their right to do so. The only thing we are required to do as Americans is respect each other's right to exist. Most everything beyond that is semantics.
I am not free because of who is in the White House. I am not free because of what Swampreme Court justices sit on their little bench. I am not free because of which team (they're all the same regardless of color) has the illusion of majority control. I am free because I wake up every day and I will it into existence. I am free because if someone tries to silence me, I can reach under my desk, grab my gun and shoot them if they try. All the media censorship and cancel culture cancer is an illusion. None of it is real. In fact depending on who they tried to cancel, often times it backfired immensely so that was never a real "weapon" to begin with. Your average leftist is just as lost and confused as we are and they just want to live their lives. The only people who are of any threat are those who seek to impose dominion over others and that's NOT exclusive to any one ideology- I mean there are anons in this sub who will unironically install a theocracy if given the chance because they feel empowered by their religious text despite Jesus never once granting such authority... point is, the idea of America is that we are all kings and queens of our lives and our property. That is what the Constitution was about: limiting government control of our lives and even taking it a step further, by wrangling the church (from the Greek: "crica" or "circus") to not have control of our lives either.
We have the freedom to live how we choose without fear of the government. That is what Q means to me to restore. I became considerably more independently minded because of this situation and I wouldn't have it any other way. Oh people are struggling and dying? What could they be doing differently to improve their situation? Why is it Q or Trump's fault we became so dependent on an evil system? Yeah. We're Americans. In times of crisis we do take care of each other, but we can only do that when we take care of the logs in our own eyes as well.
Fantastic! This might be the best summation of why I feel such a resonance with this community.
If you would have been on 8ch/kun when Q was posting you would know the glow boys tried everything in their power to shut it down. DDOS attacks, shills, using connections to kill servers. The constant media hit pieces. This tells me this is the exact opposite of a glow boy op.
If Biden was in control, wouldn’t he have ordered some military response by now? Where is the nuclear football? Where is AF1? You think Trump returned those when he left? Why is Biden using a movie set? Green screens? Why is it everything Biden does blows up in the democrats faces? Horrible optics since day one.
Sorry, but if you use common sense and ask the right questions your doomer days would quickly evaporate.
If trump is in control then why is the country so f**ed up with inflation and involvement in a war between Ukraine and Russia?
Sometimes you can’t tell people, you have to show them. Remember?
The war in Russia is the cabal being taken down. Surely you aren’t so stupid to believe the news?
You must be new. Forget everything you think you know and lurk more.
Good response.
Consider:
We WILL have either: The Great Reset OR The Great Awakening
It's a zero-sum game, winners survive, losers die
The game is being played out on a time-scale that may last decades. I think many of us thought it would all conclude within 8 years of Trump.
If you understand what the deep state has been trying to accomplish, you can also understand that they've failed to roll in much of what they were aiming for. All of the issues you mentioned here are very serious and all of us here take them seriously too, but consider how much worse WW3/Civil War 2 would've been, let alone martial law-enforced pandemic mandates where we wouldn't even be able to leave our homes for years.
The real war isn't Rs vs Ds, it's good vs evil, and everyone is a combatant in it
The whole objective of the Q operation is to prevent civil war. The Deep State wants Civil War in order to justify a crackdown. People spending time doing research and real investigative journalism is exactly what we are supposed to be doing. Anyone saying otherwise is likely a bot, shill, or FBI asshoe.
Even in the Q drops we are only seeing a small part of what is actually going on. We are being seeded with information so we can go down the rabbit hole ourselves to confirm the facts and separate fact from fiction. This is part of the transition to 4D consciousness/frequencies from 3D normie consciousness/frequencies of fear and anger of Civil War conflict that feed the cabal's need for negative energies and constant destructive conflict.
My opinion, we could use some more constitutional lawsuits from you autists. Any licensed lawyer who files a constitutional lawsuit is getting their license suspended, so we need non lawyers to start filing pro se lawsuits. It only costs $400 for Federal Lawsuit. Pick your Bill of Rights Amendment(s) and saturate the Courts.
Amen! I read Q when he was posting and followed along albeit not at the expert level. I believe there was something to the Q posts for sure. Call me doomer but to me whatever Q had in mind did not come to pass. He/they are either dead or unable to do anything at this point.
I come here for the news and to be around patriots. The talk that turns me off the most is the we're watching a movie stuff or people looking up old posts and saying it has something to do with stuff today. If we had someone on our side who could predict the future and warn us about stuff there would be better uses of that gift than prophecies that you need to spend hours on and try to link to current happenings. People trying to placate themselves with 'it had to be this way" talk are basically in denial. This world right now is not part of any patriot plan. We're in the midst of getting ass raped by commies. We need to wake people up and support the few people who are on our side. I have not given up hope but we need to peacefully push back as much as possible and hope there are some people left in power who will try to help.
You have to think about what you wrote. "Whatever Q had in mind did not come to pass." It seems that you don't know what Q had in mind, so how can you say it did not come to pass? Q straight up gave major hints that Biden would become President. The media played it up that Q claimed that Biden would get arrested on his inauguration by the military/Scooby Doo gang or whatever. Doomers I know say, "Trump promised to have Hillary in prison and he failed." But look at what has been underway this whole time, and we are now finally getting to the Sussman trial. I can't say for sure what the result will be, but this shows that things take time. And it's best for Trump to not be in the picture while these people are on trial so as not to come across as persecuting his opposition. Keep lurking and stay positive, fren!
Well I certainly hope so man. The Sussman trial does have the potential to be Pandora's box in all the best ways.
Some that come to places like this are the 3-letter agencies' slaves intent on stoking a civil war. Some are just miserable human beings and don't like seeing others happy about something like the Q plan. We know Q is legit.
People like Alex "STRATFOR Glowie" Jones claims it's controlled opposition (kek) and a mis/disinformation scheme. All the whacky rumors such as JFK Jr being alive and other more outlandish theories of some Q followers are being used as proof that Q is some CIA op.
JFK Jr is alive theorists did not follow Q - not that closely. They quote a few slogans, I find, buy the child trafficking intelligence elite pedo connection, but appear not that deep into Q.
That picture is perfect
Epic memesmithing friend
Didn't Q himself dismiss the JFK Jr stuff in drop #2611? https://qalerts.app/?n=2611
*Q-Agnostic here (Undecided about Q)
You can tell there is a demoralization campaign on PDW.
Frankly, I was pretty blackpilled until Youngkin won.
However, that victory was proof that MAGA could overcome the cheating with sufficient countermeasures.
It's ok to stay agnostic, this isn't over.
I put my trust in Jesus first. What happens here on Earth often sucks but is temporary.
You've been duped again by controlled opposition. Youngkin isn't on your side.
He was the ceo of a global investment company with over 300 billion in assets.
He is literally part of the elite and couldn't give a shit about you.
All he had to do was parrot some culture-war talking points that Tucker Carlson saturated the airwaves with... and bingo-bango suddenly he's your buddy.
Better the plebs argue about nonsense cultural issues.
Youngkin is a RIMO with deepstate history. I dont trust him. Especially if he won or "overcome" election fraud...
I believe Q is real. I believe there is a plan. I believe it's working.
I also believe there are some insurmountable ethical problems with it (misprision), and we should be pushing back against those. Honestly, if patriots realize what has been done to us under the plan, I don't see how Q and Q+ recover. It will be a PR nightmare.
You can't "have it all" and "be in control" and think people will not evently connect the dots and ask some very awkward questions. Some are already asking. That doesn't make them doomers or shills. It means they've put 2 and 2 together before the rest of you.
What do you think could be done that isn't being done?
I see Jan 6th political prisoners as the main ones suffering without action but I'm at a loss for what can be done for them with a controlled media. Trump talking about it just brings up the media's fake narrative again.
Or maybe it means in control of our emotions and actions...
We're talking about taking down a cabal that has existed for ... ever. A cabal entrenched in almost everything in existance. If you dont' think there will be casualties in a war this big... i dont' know what to tell you.
Let the casualties be the guilty. Who they are is known. Why make the innocent the casualties? The idea that the innocent must die so the guilty can get the benefit of the "rule of law" and "optics" is evil.
If only it were that easy
I don't trust Trump. You said "A" question. Holy smokes, I opened the post to find many questions. It's not a question of thinking it's a psyop, even though there is precedent for that possibility. It's a matter of not trusting someone who has done many things that only insiders can do. Become a billionaire several times, continue pushing /aX, after all the evidence of danger, have a very successful top rated tv show, appear on numerous talk shows, etc... Also is the matter of people dying, getting raped, children hurt and abused in schools, mandates, the border, destruction of our oil autonomy, intentional food shortages, unprecedented inflation, poisoning our entire military, etc... If they have it all, what's the plan? Allow evil to continue, and lives be destroyed? Does "the plan" include destroying modern society, or allowing depopulation agenda as an objective? If they have it all, what's the delay? Take our country back. There is a lot more to it. Trump was a very successful president, but also put Israel first, promoted huge spending(remember these ridiculous stimulus bills that jump started our devaluation of the dollar, were signed by Trump), but was he only great in comparison to other presidents recently? If doomers are questioning "the plan" with discernment and critical thinking, like myself, maybe trying to quell the doubts, instead of battling and labeling the doubters. I am not a normie, I just don't trust anon's either.
My biggest beef with your average anon is that they don’t even do the most basic thing Q asked them to: think logically.
My second biggest beef with them is that they have an irrational belief that a government and military will solve their problems for them. That’s literally never happened in the history of the world.
My third beef with them is that because of their irrational beliefs, they refuse to become self-reliant, which is the one thing they could do to really move the needle.
What am I doing that they’re not? Thinking logically, acting rationally, and being self-reliant.
The side bar literally has a message that says to get involved locally.
And what percentage of users do you estimate have done that?
I've got involved locally, what have you done?
Nailed it. Going to get downvoted with you, but I find it shocking to that despite priding ourselves on being open minded critical thinkers working against the Hollywood elites it is blasphemous to besmirch the holy name of a billionaire trust fund baby tv star. Trump is the elite. Not saying he was a bad president, he served his purpose. I believe he was a good president because he was under the control or direction of white hats / Q. I have a problem with Q becoming the religion of trump that worships at the altar of a billionaire elite tv star. Trump is out for trump. If the movement is defined by one person then it lives and dies with that one person. Maybe he is still influenced by white hats, maybe not. I don’t know. Endorsement of OZ gives me doubts. Remember, the Q drop about the storm mention POTUS, not trump.
So, there is is. Downvote me and get back to worshipping a billionaire tv star.
Do you realize that Trump was a very successful builder, entrepreneur before he went on to be on tv?
Yes, he grew up comfortable and well off, but he took the company that his father started and became a billionaire. Why is this so awful to you that you don't mention it at all and just keep saying "tv star"?
It's very derogatory the way you keep saying "tv star" to take the focus off of him being successful as a builder.
I'm thinking you have other ulterior motives in being so negative and derogatory.
They also devalue the TV show he starred in, making it sound like some Los Angeles rich housewives trash reality TV show. But it was actually a wholesome, family-friendly, primetime reality competition show about how to succeed in America as a young entrepreneur. As far as pre-Presidential branding in the modern, media-obsessed age, The Apprentice was basically perfect.
Yes, everything he did or does had to and still has to be portrayed as negative by the lying media.
Derogatory? Oh, no. Did facts hurt your little feelings?
TV choose him,,, look at the tapes from the 80’s Trump seemed very shy/ yet Confident
To be honest the gates that we should be thinking about are in Switzerland, London, Rothschild castle, etc. All this small fish shit chaps my ass. Killing 200 million regular people won't mean anything in the way of meaningful change. If the top of the Pyramid doesn't die its just noise. How's that ? Your big talk is just more small fish bullshit. Thanks for playing.
Cut off one head, 2 more will take its place.
So how many times have you raised an army and "stormed the gates" of Switzerland, London, and Rothschild Castle? Have you made any plans to do so? Because unless you have it doesn't seem like I'm the one using "big talk."
Unless I'm misreading your reply, or the intent thereof. If so, I apologize.
:) I have no freakin clue how to get anything like that done. I wish I did. One day I feel things will work out then I have days I feel like it is to much to overcome and to late to fix it with so many sleepers. I believe I am very aware of the problems. I always agreed that the military the only way. I also feel like the military has not done anything at all for the American people in decades except put us further into Cabal debt. I want America to succeed and all of the Cabal dead. Civil War kills all the wrong people. I dream of the best firepower in the world destroying everything the Cabal cares about but I fear no one that can has the balls. That's about as honest I can be.
That's as honest as I need you to be. What I don't get from that though, is where you get off criticizing me for not doing anything, and somehow tying that to Q.
We're likely both doing everything we think we CAN do. I'm not NOT storming the gates of the Rothschilds because Q is pacifying me. I'm not doing it because like you, I wouldn't even know how to start. So why are you coming at me, bro?
Never heard of Q until after the stolen elections of 2020. I got curious and started looking into Q posts. I love conspiracy stuff because I love testing out theories to prove or disprove them, like the mythbusters. Let me be clear here, I could not debunk the Q coincidences, but also I moved on from Q because a decision marker has been passed without the results Q promised. That marker was Q post 2610 (regarding voter fraud) which Q said 2020+ safeguarded. Newsom's recall election was rigged, definitely not safeguarded and was held in 2021 (which is 2020+).
It was good while it lasted. It gave me hope when I was disappointed with what the whole world was going through since Biden took office. And as I mentioned in other threads, I did call the WH days after the supposed inauguration to find out that the office was closed indefinitely. I don't believe Biden is in the WH because I verified it for myself, but I found Patel Patriot and Slags' series lacking. They both seem like two people wanting to find things to confirm what makes them hopeful.
It comes down to hope and comfort. When one goes down a rabbit hole too deep, one retreats to the level which makes them comfortable. Q makes people hopeful and comfortable, even if we are more red-pilled than normies.
What did I do after moving on from Q? I devised contingency plans for when SHTF, but I let go of my intense disagreements with normies over issues like jabs or cabal or Ukraine or what not. Propaganda works both ways, I don't believe jabs will kill everyone (doesn't mean I will get it). My kid is pure blood, and my life has improved drastically since I changed my mindset. I took control of things that are completely within my control and left others to God. I got a good job after that and I have better relationships now. Normies will wake up when they wake up, I just need to use better influencing skills to guide them to red-pill themselves.
I still get frustrated everyday with the notion that, in my opinion, the cost the military not doing anything is starting to outweigh the benefits of getting 90% of the population to wake up. But then again, that aspect is out of my control, so I let it go. Besides, I can't say for sure if the military is actually on our side (see Kay Griggs interviews exposing the Jesuits in the high ranks of the US military).
I have a spouse who is triple jabbed, won't give up the MSM, and dislikes Trump. I now show her the care and love that God expects from all of us. I'm not fearful of catching any shedding from her, because I now understand it is my own immune system that must stay in good shape, not some external factors. I have remedies ready in case she falls ill from the side effects, but again, that's out of my control.
To be frank, even though the whole world is fast running into totalitarianism, I now find more strength to actually do something about changing my own situation than a year ago. I still can't debunk Q, but I don't trust the plan anymore because in reality none of us knows WTF the plan really was. But to me, Q has already served its purpose in my life and God showed me the signs to move onto the next stage of my journey with Him.
We see the Durham investigation + prosecution and the precipice approaching. Whether Durham succeeds and we overcome the precipice is a different matter.
I disagree that the deep state hasn't lost any strength. Things are certainly worse for the common person though, will agree with that. Imo the "comms" posts are noise, focus on the signal.
You have more people awake now than ever. Evil is being exposed where it was previously hidden.
Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison.
Afghanistan and Myanmar were lost as poppy factories. What is the Golden Triangle and its relation to the CIA for funding?
Twitter (which controls so much of the media's attention) is in the crosshairs.
If the Russian allegations of US bio labs being used by the deep state is true, that seems like a critical loss of power.
Roe v Wade is near being overturned. What do baby parts sell for on the market?
You have the recent 9th circuit case that calls into question all federal regulatory bodies.
And so on. But I agree with you we should prepare for the worst regardless. I don't cling to "you and your families are safe." Only Jesus Christ can actually follow through with that promise.
Hey I can answer this! Non Q-supporter here, I can go point by point if it helps.
Disclaimer: it's really really really really hard to talk about Q without drifting into smarmy "Good gravy, here's how you're wrong" mode, it kinda comes with the territory, so I guess: apologies in advance? I'll try my best to behave; guest in a stranger's house, and all.
On a person-to-person level, not much; I've known a few hardcore conservatives in my life, different strokes for different folks, I get it. Everybody wants to make their country better.
The problem I have, I guess, is how Q followers want to do that, and why they've arrived at those extreme measures: ultra violent, ultra evangelical, shoot-first-ask-questions-later bloody vengeance, public hangings, televised humiliation, and mass executions on channel 5 with popcorn. Q followers say those measures are deserved, given the evil cabal enemy we're all facing; I think that evil cabal enemy is more invented than real (for reasons I could get into), therefore the measures seem, ya know, just a little rash, like tilting at windmills in the absolute cruelest and bloodiest way possible.
I personally think Q was/is a right-wing troll on the boards; someone who watches a TON of movies and knows a lot of spy/govt tropes and buzzwords, and bullshits the rest. Q drops have never really impressed me; it's too vague, too wannabe spy thriller, trying to sound in the know with lingo, references, and nonstop cryptic language for the bakers to analyze. "When does a (fish) return to the river? Think water // BO HRC ?? Evergreen. 45 drawn. You have everything you need," that kind of stuff.
Then this troll hit the absolute MFing goldmine and gained not just a following, but an entire voter base, captive in its narrative, awaiting its grand finale. A certain 45th president learns about it, or at least knows of it, and knows it's a voter base that adores him and portrays him as a hero -- so he winks at it, here and there, and the rest is history. Donald's sin is ego/pride -- biggest weakness, easiest exploit.
PS this line...
...is exactly what I mean, when I say I think the evil is more invented than real: that, right there, is the carefully-constructed dark cloud of endless crisis that Qanon casts over the world, and makes the normies' noninvolvement seem like such a guilty selfish cowardly sin. The enemies are everywhere and the fate of the world is on the line; why can't these zombies see it?
Have you ever heard that old joke: elderly woman calls her husband on his morning commute, says "Harold, be careful, some guy is driving the wrong way on the freeway!" The husband says "Hell, not just one, damn near all of em!" That's what comes to mind here.
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Oof. Good point to a degree. Q followers most definitely want the death penalty for traitors, murderers, and pedophiles. Hope you don't disagree with them on that. But you kind of make it sound like they want mob justice, and while I've seen people here and there lash out like that, Q clearly says all this needs to be done legally, with courts, and judges, and juries and evidence and all of that. I don't know how you can say you're a Q supporter if you don't support that method of justice. But likewise I don't know how you can call yourself an American if you don't think people guilty of those crimes deserve that kind of punishment, after getting their due process.
On that second and third part, here is what I got: you don't buy the worldview itself, correct? You don't buy the cabal theory that Trump talked about in his Washington Establishment speech. Or if you do, you think their motives probably don't extend beyond basic greed. All this satanic baby killing human trafficking pedophilia stuff you think is too beyond the pale to believe. Do I understand you correctly?
100 percent agree, Q is all about "It has to be done right" and that has proved to be a very useful out, keeping people from lashing out. The fallout from Jan. 6th has done the rest, putting a tight lid on Q/anon, but oh look -- now it's a pressure cooker.
To be completely honest, I don't think anons want mob justice at all ... until, ya know, the chips are down, in the heat of the moment, and it's on their side. But I think that's kinda human nature.
Agreed -- if HRC/Obama/Hollywood/etc were exposed as satanic cannibals or human traffickers etc, I want them punished to the fullest extent of the law. No one is above it, and it has to be applied, no matter how much I want to see em fry yesterday and flip the switch myself.
But again, just me entertaining that idea is buying into a foundational argument that I don't buy into: I think the evil is largely invented (whereas anons start with the assumption that the evil is real, and go from there, no looking back beyond that point).
I don't believe in an octopus-like cabal pulling the world's levers with singular purpose and unity. I think some people try to become that, and some people get very far, but I also think the idea of the monolithic cabal enemy is more fictional than real, and violates too much of what I personally believe about human nature.
The idea of a deep state thwarting your every move is also a very convenient scapegoat if you're a guy like Trump who historically tries to avoid culpability and shift blame when things go sideways.
I think all those things -- satanic baby killings, human trafficking, pedophilia -- are real and happen, some way more/less than others. Human trafficking is a global crisis that doesn't get the attention it should; I'd say pedophilia is the worst thing anyone can do on this earth and if anyone deserves to burn in Hell, it's people who hurt kids.
But the lengths to which Q/anon has taken those things, running with them, distorting them, tweaking them into its own narrative? That's what I don't believe/side with.
Gotcha. Great replies. The main point I gathered where I think we see things differently was this:
And therein lies our difference. That seems too far-fetched to you for some reason and to me it doesn't. Totally fair.
It's not that it's too far-fetched; I believe a cabal like that could exist.
But in my opinion, the arguments that it doesn't exist outweigh the arguments that it does. I've always been a Ruthless Pragmatist(TM), really focusing on the nitty-gritty practical moving pieces of a concept, and that's where the cabal theory starts to fall apart, as I see it.
Happy to answer anything -- I'll be here until I get myself banned :)
What are the arguments that it doesn't exist?
John F. Kennedy seemed to think it does:
Or Donald Trump:
I also submit for consideration the following video, in case you really think all these governments, corporations, and special interest groups are really acting independently: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/04/bill-sardi/who-runs-the-world-blackrock-and-vanguard/
Anyway, that's a smattering of why I believe a cabal like that DOES exist (not to mention the otherwise insane behavior of mainstream media regarding Donald Trump and now, Elon Musk), not just COULD exist. What are the arguments you see for why it likely doesn't?
Not mine -- the extreme leftist tone, intensity, and rhetoric. The stuff that goes viral, gets stickied here, spreads on Libs of Tiktok, etc, because it's the loudest, most concise, and easiest to mock, but it's not a good reflection of reality. Nothing that spreads on social media is.
Liberals make fun of the extreme right and turn it into a straw man enemy; MAGA makes fun of the extreme left and turns it into a straw man enemy. That's political tribalism, man, it's better than sex.
But I digress.
Yes indeed: if the world were as terrifying and evil as any given extremists make it sound, then nothing would be unjustified. If we're fighting for the soul of the world, there is no bridge too far.
But we're not fighting for the soul of the world. It just feels like we are, because people on the internet reap a social (and often financial) benefit from it. Moral outrage and fear-mongering are extremely profitable: tell your audience the sky is falling in two weeks (and it's all XYZ's fault), and they'll keep coming back for more. Nobody is immune to this -- it's human nature, and it sucks.
Nothing, I'm not better or worse, I'm just a different kind of fellow freedom loving patriot I guess? Sideways, not above or below.
I mean, this is blunt, but -- the fact that we're not in a battle, is what's stopping me.
This is gonna sound like a Roy Orbison lyric, but: I've been hurt enough to not be afraid of it. I wrote this in another comment a while ago: https://greatawakening.win/p/12jwMGHJLQ/x/c/4JDEOgApwpi
I'm not clear on "thwarting" -- it implies Q was a psyop designed to placate. That's the foundation you're beginning with and building upon it, but I'm beginning one step underneath it, if that makes sense? I don't think Q was a psyop designed to placate, or thwart anything. I think Q was a troll that convinced a lot of people because it hit the right notes at an extremely fucked-up time in the world.
Or I guess: the reason Jane Doe became an SJW Facebook warrior during the lockdown is the same reason John Smith became a Q follower during the lockdown. The same reason I took up cooking, and you took up gardening. We all needed stability, sought it in new places, and some of those places are more harmful than helpful.
It's not -- but it is, at the end of the day, an extreme group of folks who want to see celebrated hangings from the Washington DC lampposts (but can't admit it, because it's against the rules to say so). It doesn't matter who the hanged is, or who's doing the hanging; there is nothing in that image that shows an America that A) I can be proud of, or B) want to see brought to life (again).
Upset and panicked and miserable, I don't know -- if I were to wrap up the Q/anon burrito in an emotional tortilla, I think it'd be disappointed. But not disappointed in the believers, that's a huge important distinction to make.
I mean more like: disappointed that everything got this far, disappointed at how easy it is to exploit people's fears and uncertainties, and holy hell, really disappointed at the sheer number of grifters who are willing to do it, and lie to their audiences and prey on their suffering, because it pays so well in the outrage industry.
tldr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdD206eSv0 -- yes I do; people get paid very well for it, and not always in money.
you didn't read the drops either. It's like you guys have missed an entire class and now expect us to believe you.
read the drops.
Every time I crack open the drops, starting from the beginning or at random, it always reads like the same stuff -- a lot of the same recurring troll/BSing tactics, no matter which drop I read, and I just don't find it convincing.
yeah it's too bad you didn't follow since the beginning.
you might not be able to catch up now.
Q requires an above average IQ & the ability to see patterns over time. Some people just don't have it.
In order to understand Q one needs to stop dosing with the neurotoxin flouride in toothpaste and municipal drinking water. This would improve discernment and data analysis capability in most people. The problem is that "flouride being a neurotoxin is a conspiracy theory" is what everyone thinks, despite numerous research studies showing this is FACT.
One cannot know one is stupid or ignorant when one is stupid or ignorant.
Going on 2 years of Biden and nothing Q has said has come true. Also the irony of you calling people who aren’t q followed chicken shit when this group hasn’t done anything either. I check this forum pretty often for some hopium but nothing ever happens at this point if you haven’t realized it’s a scam I don’t know what to tell you
you haven't even read the Q drops, have you?
how can you criticize something you don't understand?
Yes I’ve read a lot of them used to follow some of these people on Twitter before the great purge people like 55true4u and then nothing ever happened. The thing about it being a psyop to keep people from acting makes the most sense to me. Why don’t you let me ask you what has Q said that’s come to fruition? Q is gone trump hasn’t been reinstated nothing has changed. Tell me why you still trust a completely anonymous source that was started on 4chan/8chan…
you asked 'why' I trust an anonymous source...
first; I been following since the beginning, so I read and experienced the drops as they happened.
And I've read the
MAGAZINES
once you see ALL the CRUMBS Jfk jr. left in George Magazine, there's NO doubt that Q is real.
If you don't understand^, you need to read moar.
Alright cool let me know when something actually happens.
I didn't call you chicken shit. I asked if that was your motive. In the words of Bill Burr:
"I'm talking about WHORES people. I'm not calling you whores, so don't pull back. If you said woman beaters deserved to be in prison I wouldn't get all offended and pull back, cause I don't beat women."
If it's not because you're chicken shit, great. I merely presented that as one possibility that I think is real possibility in some cases. If that's not you then don't get defensive.
Don't come here then, no one is forcing you to be here.
If it's a scam then why waste your time?
You've earned that Rothschild dollar today.....
🤡
I come here to read the news stories that get posted because if there’s any good news people would post it here. The Q stuff is just fodder that I scroll past. Btw if the Rothschild dollar thing is trying to imply that I’m a shill that’s funny because I supported trump in both elections and still have the campaign hoodie that I bought from him from the 2016 election. Just because someone doesn’t believe in something doesn’t make them a shill or an enemy.
Oof. Lot of strawmen in that one to dismantle. Not really sure where to start. I guess you feel strawmanned though.
No I was just busy replying to others and yours felt convoluted so I moved on but planned to come back to it. I'll try to break it down now.
Here's the thing. I feel like if I had actually said "what's your personal issue against people" you'd have a better point that I wasn't conversing in good faith, but I thought the way I phrased it shouldn't have given you that impression. I didn't mean to imply that you had something against Q supporters PERSONALLY. I thought it was clear that you you had something against their PERSPECTIVE. Sorry for the confusion, but it really wasn't any kind of an attack. You disagree with their perspective, I'm asking why, It's that simple.
I can't argue with that. I feel the same way.
I would too. I would think any Q supporter would. Are Q supporters claiming that, or claiming to support that? I've literally never heard anything like that before so I'm not sure how else to respond.
Agreed. I don't expect anyone to accept someone else's theory without adequate proof--whatever "adequate" might mean for them personally. I'm the same way. For example, I'm not really on board with the clone thing yet. I can't say definitively that it's bullshit, but nobody has given me enough information yet to feel comfortable saying I believe it either. I haven't gotten enough evidence either way so I'm gonna stick with "It's probably just them" until someone convinces me otherwise. This seems to be the attitude of most on this site from my experience though--has it not been yours?
Again, there's nothing here I disagree with.
Came here to say exactly this^^^^
"A question was posed on Gab today regarding Q & Project Trust:
Q: "Just out of curiosity, what should the Q followers have done instead of “doing nothing”? Serious question."
My response: Don't bother. These people do a bunch of mental gymnastics and completely ignore certain things in order to pigeon hole this narrative. They will never admit that the objective of Q was to provide people with information in a SILENT INFORMATION WAR (what a concept) without jeopardizing National Security by saying it in plain English, therefore helping to avoid a kinetic Civil War (which is required for the Great Reset). We've already seen what good a huge Patriot rally at a federal location does (Jan6th, today 9/18); it's just weaponized via 'domestic terrorist' mockingbird-propaganda. Furthermore, they also all ignore that there was no internet in the 1920's when Operation Trust was active. People had no ability to communicate with others all over the world in real time. This alone refutes their claim GREATLY. They think because out of 4,954 posts, 34 of them having a phrase that includes the word "trust" means that it's the equivalent of doing absolutely nothing. They completely take it out of context & ignore the other 4,920 drops that include concepts like how our vote should matter / education about the voting machines, finding the will to change/participate, to usurp the MSM and literally BECOME the news, to study American history, how to research open source material, staying up to date on executive orders & intelligence agencies, learning the constitution... not even to mention all the hard truths like trafficking and the banking system. These are people who claim they think critically and with sound logic, yet can't see the forest for the trees.
The people regurgitating this usually hold about a 10,000ft view of the world & disregard crucial context when coming to conclusions about current events because they think certain things can be left to interpretation... they aren't going to put any stock into someone trying to detail what has happened since WW2 and how the Mil.Ind.Complex & Intelligence apparatus, along with the Central Banks & Bloodline families have constructed a large matrix of lies that needs to be dissolved in order for humanity to move forward (i.e. cannot be resolved politically, economically or otherwise). In their mind, there's simply no way that you can KNOW this, it's just your opinion; because if it wasn't then all the media platforms they follow that are 'anti-MSM' & "for Truth" would be talking about it. Thus: it's all a big psy-op and the world is crazy and no one can explain it and we're all fucked and absolutely NO ONE in the world is trying to help humanity in their own capacity and if you say so you're just trying to keep people complacent even though we're not offering any ideas as to what we should actually be doing instead of toiling around the drain in our own alt-right echo-chambers and occasionally yelling at local government committees for your measly allotted 2 minutes (your original question)... hope that helps.
Please share this to help educate your fellow American that they are currently experiencing a silent WW3 and that 'Q' is merely a drip-nurture campaign intended to help supplant the Fake News Media and set the stage for future phases of disclosure that go beyond the political landscape"
https://t.me/MayimSpeaks/576
I think doomers are just people who are frustrated from nothing happening ASAP. This won't be easy, people don't give up power without a fight.
They only look at the end goal, they don't see the happenings going on currently, which must occur before the end. The "muh arrests" are the only thing that proves things are happening in their mind.
Misery loves company.
I go back and forth on Q. I cannot look blindly at anything, I do not have any faith. This goes only two ways in my book because there are to many coincidences for it not to be something. It is either real in some way or another, or it is the cabal winning. The longer this goes, no arrests, watching our society collapse, America literally has no morals left. I can say I'm definitely losing my hope that it is real, people are starting to see everything or a lot of things are wrong, but there is a huge majority of people who have no clue or don't want to face reality. I feel though they have so much control and are pushing so hard, Gab, Here, silence people for saying things, things that should be happening right now, but I should have hope... We couldn't organize and do something if we wanted.
I would like to give a detailed answer to this, since it asks specific questions of non-supporters, but I don’t have the time at the moment to give a full response.
I will quickly say that I believe it’s less likely that Q is a deliberate attack against Trump supporters by some Cabal, and more likely a nobody who fed a narrative that supporters wanted to believe about Trump.
When Trump talks about the Deep State and the Cabal, it always seems to be as a scapegoat for what I see as his failures and incompetencies. He used the Deep State as a way to protect his image as a perpetual winner and genius.
“Trump didn’t fail. This is obviously a strategy about the deep state.”
Trump never fails if every failure is reinterpreted as optics.
Because I don’t assume that Trump actually was competent in the ways he claimed, I look upon his tendency to blame every failure on a secret army out to destroy him with skepticism.
Because I doubt a Deep State or Cabal serves any other purpose than to serve as a scapegoat for Trump and his supporters, I do not even have the same foundation of the world as Q people.
The basic facts that you guys take as given (that Trump is involved in a war against an international cabal of pedophilic satanists) is something the rest of the world doesn’t accept yet.
Maybe they will. Maybe when they read the Q posts they will react differently than I did. But I am doubtful.
And since the I don’t see that foundation as having the evidence you do, I don’t see Q’s existence or his narrative as validating anything. It’s as real to me as a Donald Trump mythology. It is excellent at claiming predictions in hindsight, but that’s not convincing of much.
My belief in Q is as fluid as a leftist's idea of gender and sex at this point, but I have primarily thrown my lot in with those here and hope for the best for several reasons.
What I see from "non Q supporters" is that they're afraid to be associated because the media has been making them afraid. They're angry because they think we have somehow detracted from the overall MAGA movement.
Even though this isn't the case, because while they just meme about shit and effect zero change, there are those of us here who go out on to the battlefields and try to change minds.
We have more focused posts here on current events. Half the time, for Patriots.win, it's just memes. For a solid 10% of posts, there's always some Anaconda alt shitting on us for no reason.
Honestly I respect not believing in a plan, because I like to think it will help incentivize you to get off your ass and do something. But you look at Patriots, and it's just a bunch of circle jerking about Q bad, us bad, left bad, vote, vote, vote, meme, meme, meme.
Instead of treating us all as if we're all on the same side, different regiments or different forces within an army, they allow the media's wedge to shove between us which leads nowhere good.
I'm not ignorant that I am doing similarly by throwing Patriots.win under the bus here, but that's kind of the overall point. By trying to dehumanize or vilify us alongside the media and deep state trash, they are going to cause us to resent them back..which is just doing exact what the deep state is trying to facilitate.
This is my go-to comeback to the Pro-MAGA anti-Q / Qtard crowd... they have absolutely nothing to come back with. It's pure laziness. They want a boogeyman to blame their own inaction on.
It's embarrassing to watch them squirm and whine about it. Finishing them off by comparing them to a TDS victim in terms of their mindset and assumptions is also fun to do.
WHO is Q?
What is THE PLAN exactly? What is the end goal?
No one STILL has EVER answered either question; all are just guesses by people who dont know for certain anymore or less than the next person.
I am connecting locally with like-minded patriots in hopes we are at least not destroyed locally, regardless of what/who Q is and what side he/she/they are TRULY on.
what does that mean? what side 'they are TRULY on'?
Just because Q may share a common enemy, doesnt necessarily mean he/she/they are on OUR side. For all we know, it is the same faction as our common enemy, just infighting/division amongst that group, fighting one another for top control, using us as pawns in that fight.
Much of what has come to light has ONLY been more sinister evil, corruption, our rights being stripped away with even MORE talk of taking our freedoms away through even MORE bills (As if we NEED or WANT a larger Govt). We have yet to see ANYONE face TRUE consequences for the crimes committed against humanity. It's always "their working behind the scenes"....as if that ever did ANY good for us before.
it's obvious you don't know enough about the drops; you're not seeing the big picture, and that's sad, because Q laid it all out for us. as a teacher, I'd say a smart 5th grader could understand if they tried.
AND, it all relates back to God and Jesus, which you didn't mention at all, so more proof that you need to study.
We're going through a Great Awakening, and that has to take place on an internal level, but like Q said, a certain percentage will never change.
Sure.... because I have a different viewpoint that you, that must be it. Or maybe, just MAYBE, I question everyone...even Q... even Trump. It's dumb to not question everyone and everything. We do not have the 100% truth on ANYTHING, and nor will we ever.
I love being a part of Q, and have been with Q from the very beginning. Q has given me a much better understanding of the way things work in America, and around the world. Who can forget the memes?? Who can naysay all the info about human and child trafficking? About the 13 bloodlines. Hans Springer? And all the rest. Reading the drops in real time over several years set up a pattern of needing and wanting to know THE TRUTH. And we got it! Now we have the beginning of Truth Social and this is also very exciting. I am glad to be a patriot and be a part of this whole movement. Thanks to all of you!!
Liberals label you racists when you disagree with their ideology.
You label them Doomers.
I guess that's just how real intellectuals like to communicate.
Liberals labeling someone they disagree racist, is not in fact racist.
Us labeling someone who dooms a doomer, is calling a spade a spade. It is the appropriate term used to describe someone who is trying to bring people down to their vibrations.
Not the same thing, pretty bad comparison IMO.
it is the exact same thing "LITERALLY"
Doomer = Q non-supporter ?
The term doomer used to be used to label people that always thought the worst was going to happen in any circumstance....
But you guys have changed the entire fucking meaning of the word just like liberals do ALLL the time.
This allows the moderators to ban anyone that disagrees with a moderator. Since all moderators are true Q believers and of course their word on the subject is not to be argued against.
TRIBALISM
I don't think you grasp what I'm trying to say.
a)If a liberal calls some white dude racist just because he voted for trump, that is not a true racist. b) If some dude beat the shit out of someone because they were black and nothing more, that dude is racist.
If someone calls someone else a doomer because they doom, that is the correct label. To me dooming is a subset of trolling with the idea to get the other individual to feel defeated and stop doing research or trying to better themselves because all is hopeless.
Calling someone a doomer just because they are part of another tribe is not actually a doomer so I would lump it in with option 1) a)
Please tell me what the word meant and how it has changed? To me it's always meant someone operating at low vibrations trying to shitpost to try to get negative emotions to flow from whoever they are interacting with. Not just trolling but trolling with the nuance of defeatism. The closest thing to it would be kind of like being Black Pilled and not trying to do better and just giving up.
I don't speak for everyone just myself.
As someone who has been around since the voat and days before that - doomers have always existed. It's just a subset of trolling meant to get someone to feel defeated and that nothing will change and to get them to give up and operate at those low vibrations.
And they are a handshake of 36 days.
Biggest problem is that sometimes they aren't trolling, sometimes they are actually themselves depressed, frightened and not seeing things the same. We are usually pretty good about spotting them and giving encouragement. It's when people jump to calling out a doomer before any critical thinking for yourself about what they're saying happens. That's when we have problems. Every clock is right twice a day kind of thing. I know everyone has some level of frustration. Injustice is a hard pill to tolerate for long. It really comes down to the Golden Rule. Treat others the way you want to be treated.
As opposed to the low vibrations of engaging in the most base of logical fallacies… name calling.
Gotcha.
I don't believe I called anyone a name?
The topic of the thread is about using the pejorative term doomers. Not pointed at you. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
It's stating someone has a negative outlook. Which can be good or bad depending on the situation.
read the title to the post... doomers/non-q-supporters... referring to them being the same ?
are they the same?
No I believe the intent was to be 2 different groups because it would be stupid to call anyone who doesn't believe in Q a doomer.
I think it was meant to be, "A question for 1) Doomers and 2) Non Q supporters"
I apologize for any miscommunication.
I tend to read / as an "or"
based on there not being a distinction in the body, I have to assume it was addressed as an AND...
Academentia
Being an intellectual has as little to do with being intelligent as being a sportswriter has to do with being athletic.
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There is quite a lot to unpack in your questions and/or assumptions, so I will just speak from my own personal viewpoint.
I don't think I am better than anyone else. I just find the Q information I have seen thus far to be unconvincing, and sometimes based on personal biases or assumptions (which we all have). The phrase "correlation does not imply causation" is what often comes to mind. Also, my political beliefs are not a means to an end. I am not trying to build an army or storm the castle gates, I am just seeking to observe and exist within the tiny slice of the universe that I have.
I followed EVERYTHING in detail and have been skeptical about various things. Here's what I think:
The Lisa Page posts established that Q had access to Traffic camera footage, and had some type of active surveillance on an FBI agent while abroad. The timing of the post also suggests that Q had access to a classified congressional briefing at least a year before the public.
Both of these allow us to rule out random-guy-in-basement, or larp theory.
The switch to 8chan required a significant "proof"/"delta", and Q did not disappoint. The transition proof was more than enough to show that Trump was directly coordinating with whoever was operating Q (or it was him).
This means were left with the question of whether or not we trust trump... which is where the controlled opposition "operation trust" theory comes into play.
I think Trump was meant to play the role of controlled opposition but ultimately betrayed the Clintons (DNC pied piper plan, etc). The entire system recoiled to trump in such a self-destructive manner, that I have a hard time thinking it was part of "their" plan.
This is why the NWO controlled opposition theory is likely bs. It's also worth considering how Q primed a HUGE % of the population against the Covid narratives.
As far as I can tell, Qanon is the ONLY reason we had significant opposition to what the globalists tried to impose during the pandemic. Even if most people had dropped Q by that point, the lingering sub-narratives and changed world-view remained. People were suddenly open to conspiratorial thinking--specifically, people became open to various versions of the illuminati/NWO theory. I'm sure you've also noticed how mainstream that has become compared to just 4-5 years ago.
IMO Q was ultimately a bluff--an attempt to create a self-fulfilling prophecy that would culminate in Durham's probe expanding rapidly to larger ABC malfeasance and bring down the whole corrupt infrastructure. I think Trump was behind the operation (maybe at the behest of others), and did it with good faith.
This could still happen. But even the recent developments should be a sober wake up call. Edit: Recent developments being Sussman dropping the plea deal and going to trial, the Obama/Lisa Page Judge not recusing himself from the case, and the obviously stacked jury. Unless Durham has plans to introduce NSA evidence and steamroll all of these lawyers, it's not going to go anywhere, IMHO.
Fire post. I've been arguing this exact sentiment for over 2 years, plus a few other strategically-structured points that round-out a perfect orchestra to render any argument against Q negligible:
"Hey guys, my name is Q. I am a psy-op meant to "pacify you" by shedding light & sewing dissent against the very mechanisms of darkness & control that are meant to enslave you. I know... it sounds like a slippery slope for us Deep Staters. Stay with me...
We will compel you into "complacency" and "doing nothing" by encouraging you to start actively out-researching the Legacy Media to the point where all network viewership will bow to alternative podcasters & conspiratorial personalities, eventually losing all credibility.
You will be shamed into not taking armed action even though a Civil War is exactly what is needed to bring this country to it's knees.
You will be mocked for instead being armed with information even though we exist in the most highly complex information war the world has ever witnessed.
You will be gaslit by those who chuckle at the idea of a global, elite pedophile blackmail network, only to be believed by "qtards" - all as we simultaneously reveal the world of Jeffery Epstein & Clinton Foundation before your very eyes.
You will be chastised for believing in "far-right-wing conspiracy theories" even though possibly the main villain of our entire story is John McCain [we don't like to say his name].
Your movement will be infiltrated by people claiming wild, fantasy spin-off versions of what we're actually saying, and THAT will be consumed by those who didn't look into anything themselves [lazy] - therefore your entire movement will then become whatever those wild, fantasy spin-off narratives say it's about. ["Trust the Plan"... mentioned a mere 27 times in 5k posts]
Those vilifying you for doing nothing to fix the problem will also be doing pretty much nothing to fix it.
Those angrily barking at you to stop believing the military will do anything to help or simply have any role whatsoever in stopping this, would also be BEGGING for the military to step in & "do their jobs" should the CCP or UN troops invade American soil. [Hypocrites]
Naysayers will now take the position that "eVeRYOnE iS In oN iT" against us even though these same people mocked this very idea for our entire lives when discussing "conspiracy theories". They will claim they are critical thinkers using sound logic.
They used to contend that it's irrational to think all (100%) peoples or individuals in government or intelligence would sell out humanity, but NOW it's the "cool" & "logical" way to think.
Ultimately... we will give you all the tools you'd need to drive this vehicle yourselves, but many will simply refuse.
They think like emotional civilians who don't understand they are at war.
They think like lukewarm Christians (yeah, I said it) who think the word 'Occult' means Satanic. Therefore, they will never understand the world of the Occult because they are afraid of it. Therefore, they will NEVER STAND AGAINST the dark occultists or even understand their schemes.
Their dog simply does not hunt.
Thus, they were never meant to fight this battle. Only you, with the eyes to see & the ears to hear. Only those who can see the forest for the trees will be prepared.
Ironically, the task is quite simple. We show you all this, and you endure ALL OF THIS, just to find out who killed your President 58 years ago in broad daylight.
When you (ANONS) can convince both the child-like liberals & the cocky, strutting pigeon-RINOs that this is all that matters...
The Game Is Over. We hope you figure it out in time.
NCSWIC
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https://t.me/MayimSpeaks/2882
At some point trying to reason with unreasonable a-holes isn't worth the time and effort.
They'll come around, once it feels stupider to keep clinging to their MSM conspiracy theory that Q is in some way bad/ fake/ lying/ etc.
The attacks are pretty much Alex Jones and his goons and "The Team" - Simon Parkes, Charles Ward, Mel K, David Nino, Scott McKay, Michael Jaco, Juan O Savin, Nicholas Veniamin, Gene Decode, Jason Q, Tom Numbers, and others.