The mere fact Schiff has done this is proof the military has been gathering info on all of them, and it only recently came to their knowledge. It's also proof that the info is highly damaging.
What other option could there be? It's good news and he just doesn't want it out there?
It might also fail because once you are on trial for treason as an enemy combatant before a military tribunal you have no "constitutional rights". You have entered an entirely different realm of law that Congress cannot save you from.
This is really the key to why the plan is taking so long. Enough of the population has to believe this stuff so that they support the military action. It is a bigger deal than most realize for the military to move in and take control.
I guess it depends on if you believe our military is in control or they are still in control.
If you think our military is in control, the Schiff is doing whatever he is told to do.
If you think globalists are still in control, then you think Schiff is protecting himself against the white hats that will be in control at some point.
If you're on the side that believes nothing has changed, Schiff could be protecting himself foreign information being gathered and used against him. (Essentially the same thing they did to Trump.)
I could list out at least another 5 or 6 other possible scenarios.
Thats mainly the point. Everyone wants to pull the trigger on a win and say something authenticates the narrative they are siding with.
Pick your side, pick a narrative, and there are plenty points to twist it into whatever you need it to be.
If Schiff and other deep state traitors were conspiring with other countries in their bid to remove Trump as president, set up Trump while president, set up his supporters, or make sure Trump can’t run again. Then you better believe the military has every right and the power to not only investigate this but to take the necessary action needed to save the republic.
The guy doesn’t follow his own NDAA’s so why should anyone follow this? What would happen if they did? Nothing, Republicans need to grow some balls and lay it all out - congress isn’t the judicial system.
Right. I believe they are helping us because all the winning and the information that we are gathering is all over. If it wasn’t for white hats/ military we didn’t know many corrupt things the cabal is doing.
Seems as though in this thread, you are intentionally conflating the collection of information to be used in a court/tribunal situation and information used to blackmail. Care to clear that up?
Beware that military tribunals aren't always legitimate.
Few people know that the Nuremberg military trials were conducted with exclusively Jewish judges who extracted every confession under torture. They even proudly admit it on the official record for everyone to see.
Many of the confessions under torture were for crimes that were forensically debunked in the 1950s.
The six million Jewish holocaust death toll number originated during the Nuremberg trials: it was based on nothing but Russian wartime propaganda and assumed to be true by the judges without question, even though the six million number was officially revised down to 3.1 million by the Polish government in the 1940s and then those gas chamber showers were forensically and repeatedly proven to have been normal hot water showers with no residual chemical traces of any deadly chemicals in the 1950s.
The original six million was a combination of baseless claims of four million gas chamber shower deaths at Auschwitz and two million gas chamber shower deaths at Dachau.
The Polish government officially revised the four million number down to 1.1 million after their investigation determined it would have been physically impossible to kill more than 1.1 million at Auschwitz, although they found no proof that anyone was gassed there.
Many teams of scientists also found no residual deadly chemicals in the gas chamber showers at Auschwitz, forensically proving those showers were just normal hot water showers too... however the Auschwitz Memorial Site staff have chosen to ignore that the hoax was repeatedly and forensically debunked and instead employ security guards to remove anyone who asks too many questions.
So it's more accurate to say that zero Jews were gassed by the Nazis or you could side with the silliness of the Auschwitz Memorial Site staff and pretend that 1.1 million Jews were gassed even though we know they weren't.
Every humanitarian inspection reported the German prison camps were very well organized and the prisoners were treated extremely well.
Auschwitz was renown for being the most brutal of all the prison camps and many of it's Jewish prisoners recall spending relaxing summers by the pool or playing soccer with the prison guards. They speak about enjoyable evenings watching film screenings, live theater productions and live bands perform in the dining halls for their dining pleasure.
Jewish prisoners describe how German prison guards helped them to produce musical theater productions as a way to keep busy and entertain themselves and their fellow prisoners.
Other Jewish prisoners of Auschwitz recall being chased around the campground by automated rail driven killer robots, masturbation torture machines, Jews being turned into soap and lampshades, geysers of Jewish blood that spouted out of the ground and paranormal buckets of dancing Jewish blood.
Perhaps it's difficult to know which stories are true because Jews enjoy annual reparations for claiming they were tortured by Germans?
OMG! Dudes broadcasting he’s so guilty haha. Man military tribunals have to be incoming with a rule like that! They all know mil intel has been watching them! He might as well have put “because Q is real and I’m scared because everything I do is treason” as the justification
here's the title/section this amendment refers to:
§1385. Use of Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Space Force as posse comitatus
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1385
If I'm understanding correctly, this proposed amendment wants to conflate the prohibition of the execution / enforcement of U.S. law by the armed forces with the provisioning of information/ evidence by the armed forces that may assist in legal and appropriate U.S. authorities enforcing/excuting U.S. law.
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, any information obtained by or with the assistance of a member of the Armed Forces in violation of section 1385 of
9 title 18, shall not be received in evidence in any trial, hearing, or other proceeding in or before any court, grand jury, department, officer, agency, regulatory body, legislative
committee, or other authority of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision thereof.
So let’s see. Your info says clearly it’s illegal per section 1385 to use any branch of the military in service of law enforcement without express authorization by Congress. Attempting to use the military to arrest criminals without Congressional approval or under a Constitutionally-protected scenario would violate this law already, regardless of Schiff’s amendment.
What Schiff’s amendment would ensure is that IF somebody went ahead, ignored the law, and criminally used the military in a law enforcement capacity, nothing carried out under the justification of that act would be admissible in the legal system.
Sort of like how cops can’t charge you with weed possession if they illegally break into your house to find it.
It’s important to note that this proposed amendment specifies that it only covers evidence that was gathered in violation of the existing law. I bolded the relevant text in Schiff’s proposal quote above.
So the only way that Q would be a potential target of this amendment is if Q’s evidence was gathered by a military operation that is already in violation of the existing law. If Q has been gathering evidence legally and with some sort of Constitutionally or Congressionally-recognized authority, then this amendment, even if passed, would not have any effect on Q’s case.
So now my question is, does Schiff truly believe this amendment has efficacy and relevance for anything he may know is coming down the pike? i.e. some inside info or reason to believe that evidence gathering was conducted in violation of the standing law? Or is it desperate, wishful thinking without any firm basis this would make for a legal out?
It would only be a “legal out” under this scenario:
The Q Team either is military, or has military components. They have used their expertise and resources to gather evidence of a major crime, and eventually, they conduct mass arrests of numerous civilians, mostly politicians, scientists, industry leaders.
Normally, this case would be under the purview of civilian law enforcement, but as is the common belief, the Q Team, in this scenario, used military resources, and may have had the military conduct the arrests and carry out sentences.
Now, in this scenario, the Q Team had no Congressional authority, and nothing from the Constitution gave the military in Q’s Team authorization to participate in this operation.
And in this scenario, Q’s Team was willing to fall on their sword. Yes, it was illegal for them to build and conduct the case with the military, but they would happily suffer the consequences, because the evidence would exist and back up their prosecutions. They would be legitimized by their evidence, even if it was criminal to obtain.
In this scenario, Schiff’s amendment would fuck them. Because now, it would ensure that if you are a criminal and committed a crime to build a legal case, your evidence is considered invalid.
Essentially, this would stop the evidence from being useable only if the Q team is already convicted of having violated the law in using the military for law enforcement purposes.
If Q did not involve the military, or had Congressional approval for his team, or otherwise did not already violate the law regarding the separation of military from civilian law enforcement, then the Q team cannot be touched by Schiff’s amendment.
I am not a lawyer, but that is my untrained, unprofessional reading of it.
Schiff’s motivation could be as simple as “he’s a lawyer and ensuring criminals can’t commit a legal suicide-bomb by benefiting legally from their crimes.” But that would require the benefit of the doubt, and such things tend to be rare here. :)
Eh, not a lawyer, and that’s beyond anything but me wildly speculating. But I would imagine that even if the amendment doesn’t get adopted, it would eventually end up in court anyway, because anyone who is accused of a crime due to evidence collected via commission of a crime is going to have a decent chance of getting it thrown out.
That’s why I guess I don’t see Schiff as needing any unusual motivation here. This is the same logic you’d use to defend against the use of blackmailed confessions or evidence collected by a burglar against the… burgled…
In the name of Jesus Christ, I bind and rebuke the Spirits of secrecy and concealment and thievery, fraud and genocide. Let loose your hold on America and Americans!!
For whatever you bind on earth, will be bound in heaven.
Schiff could pass this and it still won't stop what's coming. With the financial collapse of the US Corporation the only courts that wont be compromised will be Military. Tribunals will be utilized.
How can he say what the military is collecting is illegal?
I wonder if now he will try to get ahead of the story, come out and say either what is illegal by what they are doing or to say what evidence he thinks they are collecting.
If this isn't a proof, I don't know what is.
And I'll elaborate for the shills.
The mere fact Schiff has done this is proof the military has been gathering info on all of them, and it only recently came to their knowledge. It's also proof that the info is highly damaging.
What other option could there be? It's good news and he just doesn't want it out there?
“it seems like Schiff's attempt at hiding evidence will fail.”
Streisand Effect
It might also fail because once you are on trial for treason as an enemy combatant before a military tribunal you have no "constitutional rights". You have entered an entirely different realm of law that Congress cannot save you from.
Yeah I was wondering if Law of War and devo would make this all moot
This is really the key to why the plan is taking so long. Enough of the population has to believe this stuff so that they support the military action. It is a bigger deal than most realize for the military to move in and take control.
Harder for media to spin if it is a mystery
I think Cicada is likely assisting as well.
I don't really need proof the military monitors everything. I know they do, they have been doing this forever.
I need proof they are using it for MY benefit and not for the benefit industrial military complex for whom they serve.
Schiffs attempt to block this info IS the proof.
Unless you believe he's playing some part to only make it seem that way
It's proof that he is worried about how this information could be used to at least blackmail or gain power over him.
I think this is actually a good bill. The military should have ZERO power over american citizens.
They took an oath good sir.
Both sides did. This isn't some bloke on your block, this is a congressman.
This is a piece of shit - subhuman
You think the Deep State is beyond using intelligence gathering to blackmail congressman?
No
But I'm not really understanding your argument in terms of the action Schiff is attempting to take here
I guess it depends on if you believe our military is in control or they are still in control.
If you think our military is in control, the Schiff is doing whatever he is told to do.
If you think globalists are still in control, then you think Schiff is protecting himself against the white hats that will be in control at some point.
If you're on the side that believes nothing has changed, Schiff could be protecting himself foreign information being gathered and used against him. (Essentially the same thing they did to Trump.)
I could list out at least another 5 or 6 other possible scenarios. Thats mainly the point. Everyone wants to pull the trigger on a win and say something authenticates the narrative they are siding with.
Pick your side, pick a narrative, and there are plenty points to twist it into whatever you need it to be.
If Schiff and other deep state traitors were conspiring with other countries in their bid to remove Trump as president, set up Trump while president, set up his supporters, or make sure Trump can’t run again. Then you better believe the military has every right and the power to not only investigate this but to take the necessary action needed to save the republic.
So hide the evidence of your corruption?
The guy doesn’t follow his own NDAA’s so why should anyone follow this? What would happen if they did? Nothing, Republicans need to grow some balls and lay it all out - congress isn’t the judicial system.
Right. I believe they are helping us because all the winning and the information that we are gathering is all over. If it wasn’t for white hats/ military we didn’t know many corrupt things the cabal is doing.
If the military were gathering information to blackmail Trump, would you feel the same?
Seems as though in this thread, you are intentionally conflating the collection of information to be used in a court/tribunal situation and information used to blackmail. Care to clear that up?
Prediction: He won't.
If trump were guilty of anything...clean hands don't worry
That's why He and Kash were removed from Truth Social board the day before SEC opens their investigation.
It’s like saying “No evidence the “FBI” or “local police” has against me may be used to prosecute me.”
Nope I will get real angry
Twitter trending: Biden gave away 17 medals of freedom today. Comms?
I saw that earlier, not sure if it's comms or if it's [them] trolling
Didn't Q say that FISA works BOTH ways? Hope Schiff brought some Depends with him.
"Diapers full! "
Pssst....Hey faggot, a military tribunal wipes it's ass with an NDAA. You're going to hang for your crimes.
I like you, sir. (no homo)
You have a way with words. LOL
Got the boot from Twitter today for saying the same thing about the people who perpetrated the COVID/Election fraud.
Beware that military tribunals aren't always legitimate.
Few people know that the Nuremberg military trials were conducted with exclusively Jewish judges who extracted every confession under torture. They even proudly admit it on the official record for everyone to see.
Many of the confessions under torture were for crimes that were forensically debunked in the 1950s.
The six million Jewish holocaust death toll number originated during the Nuremberg trials: it was based on nothing but Russian wartime propaganda and assumed to be true by the judges without question, even though the six million number was officially revised down to 3.1 million by the Polish government in the 1940s and then those gas chamber showers were forensically and repeatedly proven to have been normal hot water showers with no residual chemical traces of any deadly chemicals in the 1950s.
Thank God they only killed 3.1MM. I feel much better now /s
No.
The original six million was a combination of baseless claims of four million gas chamber shower deaths at Auschwitz and two million gas chamber shower deaths at Dachau.
The Polish government officially revised the four million number down to 1.1 million after their investigation determined it would have been physically impossible to kill more than 1.1 million at Auschwitz, although they found no proof that anyone was gassed there.
The German government officially revised the Dachau gas chamber shower death toll down from two million Jews to zero Jews after repeated forensic chemical testing proved those showers to have been normal hot water showers. This is the sign displayed to tourists to officially debunk the gas chamber shower hoax.
Many teams of scientists also found no residual deadly chemicals in the gas chamber showers at Auschwitz, forensically proving those showers were just normal hot water showers too... however the Auschwitz Memorial Site staff have chosen to ignore that the hoax was repeatedly and forensically debunked and instead employ security guards to remove anyone who asks too many questions.
So it's more accurate to say that zero Jews were gassed by the Nazis or you could side with the silliness of the Auschwitz Memorial Site staff and pretend that 1.1 million Jews were gassed even though we know they weren't.
Every humanitarian inspection reported the German prison camps were very well organized and the prisoners were treated extremely well.
Auschwitz was renown for being the most brutal of all the prison camps and many of it's Jewish prisoners recall spending relaxing summers by the pool or playing soccer with the prison guards. They speak about enjoyable evenings watching film screenings, live theater productions and live bands perform in the dining halls for their dining pleasure.
Jewish prisoners describe how German prison guards helped them to produce musical theater productions as a way to keep busy and entertain themselves and their fellow prisoners.
Other Jewish prisoners of Auschwitz recall being chased around the campground by automated rail driven killer robots, masturbation torture machines, Jews being turned into soap and lampshades, geysers of Jewish blood that spouted out of the ground and paranormal buckets of dancing Jewish blood.
Perhaps it's difficult to know which stories are true because Jews enjoy annual reparations for claiming they were tortured by Germans?
Ohhhh daaaaaaamn
These are very real life or death moments playing out inside our Congress.
poor pedos
Fuck em
Ew, no!
Aye, PC. Them as done the dirty deeds be see'in the storm approach.
Is a Ritz OK?
OMG! Dudes broadcasting he’s so guilty haha. Man military tribunals have to be incoming with a rule like that! They all know mil intel has been watching them! He might as well have put “because Q is real and I’m scared because everything I do is treason” as the justification
It's almost as of he just found out the "conspiracy theory" is true.
Or they realize a majority of the public will either support or shrug their shoulders at the trial process that will inevitably happen.
This is a good sign that our side is very much on the offensive and will continue to be at a cumulative rate.
Please, Mods: pin this. That is a huge find.🙏🏻
Almost a direct admission by the enemy of the plan.
u/#burry
THEY ARE STUPID
Based gif
(scoffs) Could they be any more obvious?
May I say we have another BOOM.
So many booms, at this point I've stopped counting.
🎶Gotta get that!🎶
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dKiad-CC44o
So ridiculous an idea that the military not provide evidence. Good luck with this crap, you complete criminal.
NCSWIC
Give in, Adam, and wave the 🏳️; you've lost!
Waving the "pizza related map?". Ew. 😁
Nothing!
I hate that pencil neck fuck!
Exactly fren. And to your point, he has a very hangable neck.
From your keyboard to God's own ears!
Panic in DC. They're scared an feeling more pain every day.
And every misstep by them makes it 100x worse. I'm giddy at the idea of them absolutely freaking out behind the scenes.
u/#q3993
Hmm...
Maybe something has been declassified {Kash?} and it got their diapers full?
How about this. We don't care. Any lawe that protects them will be ignored. You can scream about it from the gallows when you get your last words.
Schiff's last words should transpire after a huge liver kick that shuts his whole body down, then 5 seconds for last words.
Then hang, draw and quarter the fuck.
We're too nice. We'd rather let them engage in genocide than see a little uncomfortable justice done to one of them.
Not me, Popcorn ready.
Bowels in or out Mr Schiff?
“Obstruction of justice “
beat him to the punch and indict his ass
here's the title/section this amendment refers to:
If I'm understanding correctly, this proposed amendment wants to conflate the prohibition of the execution / enforcement of U.S. law by the armed forces with the provisioning of information/ evidence by the armed forces that may assist in legal and appropriate U.S. authorities enforcing/excuting U.S. law.
I believe that is correct, yes, but only if this military operation is in violation of the law you quoted.
Here is the actual proposed amendment by Schiff:
https://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/SCHIFF_073_xml220705100307358.pdf
So let’s see. Your info says clearly it’s illegal per section 1385 to use any branch of the military in service of law enforcement without express authorization by Congress. Attempting to use the military to arrest criminals without Congressional approval or under a Constitutionally-protected scenario would violate this law already, regardless of Schiff’s amendment.
What Schiff’s amendment would ensure is that IF somebody went ahead, ignored the law, and criminally used the military in a law enforcement capacity, nothing carried out under the justification of that act would be admissible in the legal system.
Sort of like how cops can’t charge you with weed possession if they illegally break into your house to find it.
It’s important to note that this proposed amendment specifies that it only covers evidence that was gathered in violation of the existing law. I bolded the relevant text in Schiff’s proposal quote above.
So the only way that Q would be a potential target of this amendment is if Q’s evidence was gathered by a military operation that is already in violation of the existing law. If Q has been gathering evidence legally and with some sort of Constitutionally or Congressionally-recognized authority, then this amendment, even if passed, would not have any effect on Q’s case.
Yes that makes total and complete sense.
So now my question is, does Schiff truly believe this amendment has efficacy and relevance for anything he may know is coming down the pike? i.e. some inside info or reason to believe that evidence gathering was conducted in violation of the standing law? Or is it desperate, wishful thinking without any firm basis this would make for a legal out?
It would only be a “legal out” under this scenario:
The Q Team either is military, or has military components. They have used their expertise and resources to gather evidence of a major crime, and eventually, they conduct mass arrests of numerous civilians, mostly politicians, scientists, industry leaders.
Normally, this case would be under the purview of civilian law enforcement, but as is the common belief, the Q Team, in this scenario, used military resources, and may have had the military conduct the arrests and carry out sentences.
Now, in this scenario, the Q Team had no Congressional authority, and nothing from the Constitution gave the military in Q’s Team authorization to participate in this operation.
And in this scenario, Q’s Team was willing to fall on their sword. Yes, it was illegal for them to build and conduct the case with the military, but they would happily suffer the consequences, because the evidence would exist and back up their prosecutions. They would be legitimized by their evidence, even if it was criminal to obtain.
In this scenario, Schiff’s amendment would fuck them. Because now, it would ensure that if you are a criminal and committed a crime to build a legal case, your evidence is considered invalid.
Essentially, this would stop the evidence from being useable only if the Q team is already convicted of having violated the law in using the military for law enforcement purposes.
If Q did not involve the military, or had Congressional approval for his team, or otherwise did not already violate the law regarding the separation of military from civilian law enforcement, then the Q team cannot be touched by Schiff’s amendment.
I am not a lawyer, but that is my untrained, unprofessional reading of it.
Schiff’s motivation could be as simple as “he’s a lawyer and ensuring criminals can’t commit a legal suicide-bomb by benefiting legally from their crimes.” But that would require the benefit of the doubt, and such things tend to be rare here. :)
I didn’t miss that you believe this to be true.
I am only speaking in the context of the law as it is written and as Schiff’s amendment would apply to it.
If you believe Trump found a way to stay within the confines of the law, then Schiff’s amendment presents absolutely no threat to Q.
Would this amendment be ‘retroactive’ from date of adoption or only for info post date.?
Eh, not a lawyer, and that’s beyond anything but me wildly speculating. But I would imagine that even if the amendment doesn’t get adopted, it would eventually end up in court anyway, because anyone who is accused of a crime due to evidence collected via commission of a crime is going to have a decent chance of getting it thrown out.
That’s why I guess I don’t see Schiff as needing any unusual motivation here. This is the same logic you’d use to defend against the use of blackmailed confessions or evidence collected by a burglar against the… burgled…
Fascinating, thanks for the context.
He can try, but it won’t stop the information from being used in tribunals.
Great post Fren!
This is confirmation to me, my deductive reasoning just concluded something i was skeptical about
u/#panic
u/#afraid
Anyone remember Pelosi's laptop?
https://rumble.com/vcliub-mcinerney-special-forces-got-pelosis-laptop.html
What are you hiding Adam? The Military will have the information. You can't hide it at Military Tribunals.
because the coming congress can't just rescind?
Nothing can stop it pencil neck. Too late.
You know they all are. The evidence is in every action they take.
When this amendment doesn’t pass, I just hope somebody gets video of him shitting his pants.
You need to charge your phone brah
In the name of Jesus Christ, I bind and rebuke the Spirits of secrecy and concealment and thievery, fraud and genocide. Let loose your hold on America and Americans!! For whatever you bind on earth, will be bound in heaven.
I hate that she mentioned GOP.
I hate GOP.. I hate establishment. I hate the association with the GOP. We need a new party.
He's tried this before. I don't think he got away with it?
Shitty Schiff ain't gonna get it done though.
What a soggy, dirty diaper of a "man.
What can be written, can be unwritten
anything and everything these people try to pass and do pass is NEVER 'for the people'
Will this pass?
Schiff could pass this and it still won't stop what's coming. With the financial collapse of the US Corporation the only courts that wont be compromised will be Military. Tribunals will be utilized.
I read what is there, and the ONLY thing it says is:: ""ANY Evidence Collected by the U.S. Military is ILLEGAL"".....
He is working really hard to block getting prosecuted, and working at it long before it's due.....
How can he say what the military is collecting is illegal?
I wonder if now he will try to get ahead of the story, come out and say either what is illegal by what they are doing or to say what evidence he thinks they are collecting.
Well, He can't, but IF this is put to a Vote, in Congress, and it passes, it will be very Difficult for the Military to present Evidence.....
BUT, it will also have to go to the SCOTUS for correction as Unconstitutional, which it is, and Shitty Schiff knows it is, but he's trying anyway....