Girl's Electric Car Needs New Battery but It's More Expensive Than Vehicle Itself - Then She Gets Even Worse News...The Siwinskis were told the battery pack was at the end of its life and needed to be replaced, and the bill was going to be $14,000...The dealer said it couldn’t even get a battery.
(www.westernjournal.com)
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TLDR "If electric vehicles become the norm, the situation might price many Americans right out of owning a car at all."
They can speed you up and crash you into a tree if you’re about to expose them. Talk about “reach out and touch someone”. It’s an old telephone ad slogan.
What a conspiracy theorist. They would never do that to Michael Hastings.
And record you
I put a pice of duct tape over the video sensor that is “supposed” to notice when you are falling asleep at the wheel. It’s a lease for our company.
I used to work as a service writer at GM during college, OnStar has been able to shut down cars since 1997.
The difference is that those old onstar units are functionally safe now since they shut down the 3g they were reliant on to function. And it doesn't take much to disable the connectivity to it just in case.
It pays to know the limitations of the hardware you have.
The connectivity is two way, in Dec. 2022 the "up" is getting severed for all 2G onstar, but "down" will still function. You can't contact OnStar without an upgrade, but they can still contact your vehicle.
On Star even promoted that feature nearly a decade ago about stopping a police chase.
I just keep putting around in my '04 Suburban. Already purchased a drive train from a company that makes them new or remanufactured and offers a 7 year 100k mile warranty from date of installation. She has 207k on her(low miles, I know) and am hoping to get at least 400k out of it. I'm done owning new cars for more reasons than the privacy breech, which is a deal breaker in itself. I'm glad I got both of my used beauties before everyone else caught on to the game and shot the prices up.
Lol, the 2004 Suburban has OnStar installed whether you wanted it or not, the whole system is there and installed even if you have no button or interface. Chevy can shut down your truck from a satellite even if you swap the entire motor out, it's built into the ECU.
Only if they rebuild the 2G network. Kek.
That's not how that works.
Yeah, you just disconnect the wires as the ECU has no wireless capabilities. The On Star system has to receive and then send the signal to the ECU. Once the wires are cut no more signal. Not to mention the power supply to the On Star is also disconnected.
Yes, if you destroy the car's ability to drive and run the OnStar will stop working. Imagine that.
Teslas are fun as hell to drive, never have I felt that level of acceleration before (and that was a base model 3). Would I buy one though? HELL NO!!!
Love my 1990 Miata (my fun car), and 98 Ram van (the practical one). Plus considering the van has a wood stove, bed, and all the other necessities I could live in it if shit hit the fan.
Old vehicles are WAY better. Plus whenever anything breaks you can actually work on them, none of this "take it in for service" crap.
I agree with everything you said here. I buy those model Burbans because I used to wholesale cars and the models that lasted the longest were almost always Tahoe/Yukon, Burban/Yukon XL. I've seen so many of them over 300k miles on the original drivetrain that I couldn't make myself buy any other model. I like the way it looks, but, that's not important to me anyway. The Dodge 5.7 Hemi is a workhorse too. The newer cars, including Tesla, have far too many drawbacks with the technology to make me interested in the slightest bit. It's a machine that is still doing its purpose, no need to replace it. I have my oldest son saving for his first car now. I told him I'd match him and we'd buy cash as financing frivolous items is forbidden under my roof. I hope that sticks with all of my kids. A debt free life is a good life.
Haha me too!! 04 burban 2500
The new trailblazer has a 1.2L engine. You can put that in the glovebox of your suburban
I would only buy full size GM trucks and SUV's '06 or before. The newer models post AFM/DFM introduction aren't worth keeping up with. Is the damned thing even turbo charged?
Nope.
Didn't one of the truck protesters rent a truck to go to DC and the rental company shut it down when they realized?
That guys wife ended up telling the whole story about that in a livestream the other day, she was talking to another guy and he asked her about it and she said, "no he showed up and the credit card he had from a donor didn't work."
This is the problem with how "they" think.
Instead of building cities with abundant transit and putting a cop in every train, AND then zoning neighborhoods so most things are very close by for every cluster of residences, AND THEN also moving many common errands to local delivery services...all so people don't NEED a car everyday...
Believe or not, Americans actually used to live this way. It was called life before the 1960's, or you know the "good old days." One would ride the bus or train to work, which was clean, safe, and always on time. And then many errands were within 15 minutes walk of one's home at small local stores in every neighborhood. And for everything else, they could use the family car. It let a country run on something like 1/10th the fuel is consumes yearly now that trying to go to general store like Target, and then buy some food at a supermarket means you have a 15 mile round trip in most places...because they concentrated retail space from many small stores, to something like 2-10 "super stores" of each brand of store, that service an entire city of hundreds of thousands to millions of shoppers.
And instead of then leaving cars to be in majority a inexpensive, simple, easy to manufacture, highly fuel efficient machine for those who DO need a car..
They are trying to just force everybody into Teslas. Teslas the cars so ruinously expensive to make you will never break even owning them, and they are so needlessly complex they don't last more than 5 years.
They are just going to make the cars ruinously expensive and leave you to figure out how to do your loop of 20 miles for errands in a golf cart, or worse, nothing at all. Then they are then gonna rent you a ride share service that costs 10x more more per mile what it would cost to operate something like a Toyota Camry, to bleed you more.
They have ideas that are in the right direction, like getting most common people off using a polluting car daily so our oil lasts longer and we have more for composites and plastics....all things that benefit us, not to mention who doesn't want cleaner air. Sure carbon is a sham, a complete scam, but toxic carcinogenic hydrocarbon pollution is NOT, and worse than its ever been.
But they go about it the WORST possible way, not caring how much hardship or misery they leave people struggling with. They will take away your car without doing anything else to change how society works. They will provide transit but make sure its done cheaply as possible, broken down old busses with no security so you get mugged every month by punks.
Its speaks to their nature as childish tyrants, evil people who WILL have what they want as cheaply as possible, to as much profit to them as possible, no matter how much pain it causes the masses.
And above all, they hate you. They look upon you like a man would look upon an insect, never to hesitate to step on you for making them notice you.
I said it before and I'll say it again.
The tyrants we are dealing with think themselves as gods and everyone else mere insects to be disposed of at their pleasure.
May God remind them the penalty for their idolatry, blasphemy, and hubris.
Or more likely forced to take mass transit, in which TSA will check your junk or boobs for weapons. Imagine a transvestite having power over you to touch you.
Just as bad. It's 100% rip off. You're forced to keep the mileage under a certain amount and car above a good condition. You pay off about 50-75% of the car and then give it back for free and then they resell the vehicle at 75-85% of the purchase price, but they make about 1.5 times the cost of the vehicle
The naive me in the past got tricked into leasing an EV and buying what I thought was a cheap unlimited oil change service package for an electric vehicle ($200). This was before EVs were popular. I did not realize then EVs don't have motor oil to change.
Let the buyer beware lesson right here.
interesting.... It was Nissan that did this to me too with the Nissan Leaf. I promised myself never to buy another car from their dealership. They have some shady practices
To add, 1.5 years after end of my lease, I found out they forgot to close my lease account leaving $5 balance on the account and had sent it to collections with a derogatory remark. It made getting a home mortgage more difficult.
you will own nothing, and be happy.
That and right now electric cars don’t go far enough. Especially under heat . The whole plan is to keep us isolated
"might"?
It will price at least half of Americans out of owning a car. This is by purposeful design to deconstruct America into a 2 tier society and eliminating entirely the middle class. It takes 4 times as much electricity to charge the average household's EV cars as the average household uses on air conditioning. Widespread use of air conditioning already taxes the power grid and causes black outs. Do you see where this is heading?
And when you already control the power company, then you control when people drive, how much, where, etc. You also control how hungry they are by causing extended black outs that forces refrigerated items to go bad and, with the all the slack-off from home stuff, you control how productive that person is.
The idea is to get everything on the power grid, then they can control every aspect of our lives by turning off the power. Trouble with the government, OFF, wrong think on social media, OFF. Smart meters make the whole thing very easy and very viable.
Yep. 1000% correct.
Hybrid is currently a much more effective concept. I hate ford, but they have something called the powerboost. Its the 3.5 ecoboost with a hybrid system attached to it. I believe that should be the next step before ALL electric.
Cars should be like trains... But with a small turbo diesel generator, some big capacitors / high discharge batters and powerful motor...
The tech to advance ICE to tremendously efficient is out there. Koenigsegg had some brilliant advancement with freevalve, but sold it to chynah...
That was how the Chevy Volt was set up but with a standard gasoline NA engine.
It worked so well that Chevy killed it.
they were told to kill it .../!
GM
Government Motors
Except the Ecoboost is a pile of crap.
I had a 2013 Ford F150 FX2 with the V6 twin turbo 3.5L Eco in it. First problem was a leaking Rear Diff Pinion Seal at 47k miles; like WTF. At 85K it began cascading failures: transmission Lead Frame, Throttle body, Turbos, and finally I got rid of it due to a head gasket fail (oil looked like creamed mocha coffee). I babied that thing, never drove it hard and never towed a single trailer but did use the bed to help move a few people to new houses and my own home projects.
Did a lot of research into those engines once things began failing and they're just crap, many failing before 100k miles. Never again. Traded in for a RAM Laramie 4x4 with the 5.7 Hemi. Couldnt be happier. Missed that V8 rumble.
Real talk. All these normies creaming over turbo cars haven't been around a truck shop when the turbo goes out and the bill is in the thousands.
Naturally aspirated for me thanks.
It used to be that 120K miles out of a turbo motor was about the limit before something failed.
People forget that turbos in military equipment works out because the life expectancy of the equipment isn't that long. It would get shot up, blown up, or rebuilt well before the warranty expired.
That sounds about right to me based on what I've seen.
Oh i totally agree. I drive my 08 sierra like a 2 dollar whore and only have put front bearings and axles in it. Other than that, it takes whatever i give it. Those ecoboosts are fun while they last but you just cant throw twin turbos on anything you want and expect it to last. Almost every truck that came in at 120k either needed turbos, or had just got them and the timing chain and solenoids were going out. Thats the next thing to go bad.
The hemi V8s are outstanding but like with any motor that has displacement on demand (4 cyl shut off mode) i would either have it tuned to have that shit shut off, deleted all together, or an aftermarket obd2 plug that can keep it from switching to that mode. When these newer vehicles shut those 4 cyls down, its hard as FUCK on the motor. If you turn that mode off, theyll run and last like any other old school motor. Engineers could learn a thing or two from us rednecks about how to make a motor run right because ive made a pretty good living fixing their bullshit lmao.
Ford was pushing lots of money into the anti-family activists about that time (~2008-2015). They lost my business with that BS and I never looked back.
Yeh Makuloco is, in fact, part of the research I did. Everything he said matched what I found and then some. Excellent channel for the down-n-dirty👍
Edit: LoL the downvotes on my post above. Someone likes their Ford and got their fee-fees hurts. Awww..truth's a bitch🤣🤣
Hybrid is the best. Our Honda, zero problems and 50mpg because my wife drives gently
Volkswagen had a 3cyl with 90mpg in Europe. Problem with US is people drive like assholes. Not to mention 100 pound women driving 3 row SUVs for their 1 kid and small dog or twinks compensating with their lifted extended cab or douchebags with their Mustangs
We had a Toyota Prius that got 45-50 mpg if you drove it like a golf cart and filled it up with ethanol free gas. It was more like 35-42 mpg with standard ethanol and driven normally.
My wife has had multiple back surgeries so we ended up replacing it with a used SUV because it had much more comfortable seats and was easier to get in. Our SUV gets anywhere from 24-27 MPG with ethanol free gas and from 18-22 with standard ethanol.
I spend more on the ethanol free so my lines and engine doesn't get clogged up with corn residue.
My thoughts as well. The math is pretty simple if anyone bothers to do it. Going after the stop / start and hill climbing inefficiencies makes the biggest overall difference.
How about them water powered cars that those people who got killed were trying to invent?😃
They're good in the right hands.
They'll never been in the right hands because even if you or I come up with a great cost effective model, say a 20 thousand dollar electric car that gets 400 miles a charge... Well yeah, it'll never happen, because it can't.
People have been DIYing ev conversions with deep cycle pb batteries for a long time... Range isn't the greatest, but can easily make daily round trip or local trips. Lead batts are easily recycled as well. Also not grid integrated too
No fucking doubt. A used 2014 EV? Back when EV's were still basically experimental? 8 years on that battery? What the fuck were they thinking?
...it's real simple, ask around how much it costs to replace the battery on the car u are interested in, should convince one that it's time to look for a conventional car again ! and...have the battery checked by an independent before u buy, if paying $ 8K to replace the battery doesn't phase u
And eat your bugs
And give up everything else you own, and be happy.
The irony his father bankrolled the actual, factual nazis realizing he could get filthy rich off the massive world war that psycho bad mustache man would cause.
And he did, he got massively, stinking, filthy rich while the war killed 88 million people.
And then because all he did was bankroll them, never did the salute himself, he escaped justice from the Allies after the war.
Reminds me of a particular Hungarian-"American" who started war after war for profit, funded radical terrorists organizations, all while going "I didn't tell them to burn half of America down in 2020."
These tyrants gave into the demons that infested their hearts and the demons grew big and strong.
However, demons never win in the end. They get sent down to the lake of fire at the end. Now, if the tyrants want to join the demons in their prison, they are welcome to do so.
I really want to know what would compel someone to buy an 8 year old electric vehicle from a discontinued line for more than $2000. They got ripped off. Do your research before you make a big investment.
I can't believe they paid 11K. Whoever sold it got super lucky to find such a sucker.
That's another angle people are not talking about.
Due to electric batteries being expensive and must be replaced in a few years, used EV's must necessarily be cheaper than gas cars.
That means HUGE depreciation cost.
Exactly. That car got 60,000 miles out of the battery. Now it's worth negative $$. And who will take the old battery off her hands?
The joke used to be "there's nothing more expensive than a cheaper BMW/Mercedes/Ferrari" now add "a used EV."
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That was an expensive price tag for virtue signaling.
It makes for a great 'beater project' if someone knows a little bit of electric engineering to restore the battery cells.
However, if it's fully EV, then that's a whole lot of bag of potatoes if it's too far gone as a dead weight. Still worthy as a in-process pipeline flipper project, but never as first line daily driver unless it was hybrid.
I saw a video of a guy who was told his ev needed a new battery and because it was so much $ he decided to take it apart and see if he could fix it. None of the cells were bad, just corroded bus bars and terminals. He polished it up and was good again
From my experience working on hybrids, the way the batteries are constructed only allow two options: repair the charging system or replace the battery. They have all sorts of planned obsolescence chips in those things too. It's like a printer. If you know how to fix the part, you can, but the computer won't recognize it as a legitimate part.
I bought my wife a laser printer when she transitioned to a work at home position and she balked at the price compared to the inkjet printers.
Once I explained the laser printers are cheaper in the long term because the toner lasts a very long time and doesn't dry up like its more expensive ink counterpart, she got on board with the decision.
Worked out well for us, especially due to how much she printed.
If you know what you're doing, you could probably source the needed cells from here and replace them yourself. https://jag35.com/
But it would be a very involved procedure.
Meanwhile if you spent that six months driving a gas car, spending maybe $100 in gas a week, for six months, you'd be at under $2400.
Not to mention she won't continue to be subjected to the electric field that car was generating that would eventually give her cancer. Then again, she is probably vaxxed and boosted given the virtue signaling going on with this family. Oh, that's right, the article did mention that the father died this year. Hmmm?
I bet Tesla owners have the highest vaxx rates of all makes of cars.
No doubt.
Maybe the vehicle's electric field is the only thing keeping the Vax-nanobots from destroying her immune system?
But the electricity is not free either. Maybe cheaper than gas, but it still can cost A LOT to pay for the electricity for an electric car.
Only a dummy would pay a disposal fee. A smart person would sell it to someone building a diy powerwall.
A real man throws it in the ocean
With his bare hands!
With his cock. He does 1 set of 5 kegels with each battery before pelvic thrusting it off the dock like a boss.
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I'll stick with my 8-cylinder rear-wheel-drive gas-guzzling sedan, thanx
At least she can still virtue signal.....
That only takes a very small battery by comparison.
17 YO college student who wants to be green. Hmmmm, I hope this is a well learned life lesson and maybe she will rethink her stand on being green and how those ideas were taught to her. Being green is not reality, but doing your part is a good thing, but not at the expense of being a free individual. Now she will have to pay the globalists to fix her car and they are going to stick it to her. But she will be a good greenie and pay up for years. You can't fix stupid.
Green is far more damaging to the environment and in the end not cost efficient. The bottom line is far more expensive and will be prohibitive for the vast majority. I wonder if any of these virtue signalers have ever bothered to investigate where the lithium comes from to make those batteries. Nothing green there at all - in fact it flows red in the blood of those unfortunate souls whose lives are drastically shortened mining the stuff. Putin is not what has led to the energy crisis breakdown in Europe and the failure in Sri Lanka - it was green energy policies. That crap is headed our way unless we can stop it. Pass stories like this far and wide to get the attention of normies that continue to think EVs are the answer.
The cobalt needed to make the EV's is mined in Africa by African slaves.
Imagine that ...
You mean my EV battery doesn't come from the magical shit of rainbow unicorns?
Getting a used prius is fairly safe, they are extremely popular and parts are easy to get including battery parts.
It's not TOO hard to repair a prius battery, there are YT videos that show how to do it, and whole batteries (refurb) are around 4k.
I'd be super hesitant to get any other used electric unless it's just 2-3 years old or has a warranty or something in writing.
Yep, the missus has a hybrid and I already researched into the eventual procedure I'll have to do to replace the battery pack. ChrisFix on YouTube did a video years back on flipping a used Prius he bought for cheap with a dead battery pack, did a whole how to on refurbing the battery, and sold it at a profit.
another clue that prius are smart to buy is they use them as taxis. So..... CANT be too bad.
"I got 2 of my best guys laying down on it right now. What yer looking at is 14k, and thats if I have it, and well I aint got it."
Someone may have already posted this, but in the event they haven't. The rest of the story, besides the new replacement battery costing $14,000, is they don't make the battery for that model of car any longer!
If a deal seems too good to be true...
In this case, the original owner knew what was coming and dumped the car just in time.
I ❤️ My Carbon Footprint 😎
I leave carbon footprints so large, people mistake them for dinosaur tracks
Love it 😊
To be fair the article does state "Do your research". I would never buy an 8-year-old EV and not from Ford. Tesla maybe.
But know all cars can track you, as well as your cell phones 24/7 turned off or on.
I feel like there won't be a used car market for electric cars for exactly this reason. Why buy used when you'll have to replace a battery that costs more than the car, or close enough to it that it doesn't make sense to buy used.
Also fuck batteries, they're a subscription service that forces you to buy new. This is the best we got in 2022?
Consider the fact that Californians are being asked not to charge their electric vehicles at peak times. The mileage before recharging is not compatible with vacationing and exploring the U.S. The mileage on a charge needs to be improved first, and the cost of the battery next. But I believe the entire thrust of the green plan is to confine people to a certain radius near their home: electric cars, vax cards, phone tracking, digital pay, etc.
Proving yet again, "there is no replacement for cubic inch displacement".
With electric cars, there is no such thing as an old cheap clunker. You can buy a 1985 Buick for $1000 and drive the hell out of it. But old batteries just don't hold up.
So a point this article leaves out …. This poor young lady has an $11k paper weight - she can’t fix it, she can’t sell it or trade it in… so she should take the loss of $11k??? She should be so lucky….
She’ll be even more shocked to learn what it will likely cost her to scarp this POS! The lithium ion, cobalt, sodium ion batteries etc. cannot just go into a landfill - the batteries materials are like nuclear materials w/ atomic half lives for the disintegration of radioactive and toxic materials - this shit is beyond TOXIC - nobody tells the Earth Day lunatics who buy these crappy F’ing cars…..
This happened to a friend of mine, in kinda sorta way. She has a leaf that is maybe two years old. She ran the battery down too low and now it won't take a full charge. The dealership told her she could replace the battery for some obscene amount, and she decided not to do it. Now the battery only charges a small percentage and she can only take her leaf a few miles before it has to be charged. She went from "I love my leaf!" to "I guess I just have to deal with this" pretty quickly.
batteries have a memory... forgot how to correct it. think it's something internal.
Sorry but an 8 year old vehicle is decidedly not “like new”.
hahahahahaha breathing in deeply hahahahahaha.
save the environment she thought. smarter then everyone else she thought. my trucks maybe on it's last leg, but it's a 2005. digs and dents all tell the story of me working. transmission crying like a bitch. but you know what. bitch still runs.
hahahahahaha .. $10k for 6 months of driving.
The moral of the story is, obviously, the girl is a raging bigot.
You can't make this stuff up.
There's a sucker born every minute...
The goal is travel for the elite only. The rest of us? Trapped in city states. A more easily controlled population.
I hear they make nice lawn ornaments... roll down the windows and see how long before it gets that hobby lobby vintage postcard look.
But that would make her a redneck. Oh well.
A friend bought a Tesla and he wanted to pass down to his son….I almost couldn’t hold in the laugh
Kek …bro his kid is like 5 ….obviously he’s next level turd cake
I understand it's technically possible to refurbish the cells. As a practical matter, though, I don't know that anyone does it for batteries that big.
Yeah, each cell of a lithium battery, a little bigger than a AA alkaline battery, has about the same explosive energy as a stick of dynamite. I was find this by an engineer who worked in the electric bicycle business.
There was a story of a couple who owned 2 Teslas. While they were sleeping, the Teslas were being charged in the garage overnight.
Apparently, they both caught on fire while they were sleeping.
Shiiiiiit ...
The concept of the EV is sooooo bad on so many angles, that dumbfucks will be required to wake the fuck up.
I ❤️ my cylinder index. Only goes up.
Better not dent the battery case or it's bad news.
A LS crate motor conversion would be cheaper.
Note to self: Invent a modification that allows a IC engine to drive an electric car. Expect huge demand for this.
"her parents bought her a used 2014 Ford Focus Electric"
There's your first mistake. Everything that happened after that is your fault.