He’s a manchurian candidate. He is going to say exactly what MAGA folk want to hear, even after getting elected. They know what we want. But he isn’t it.
Same here, No trust factor of ZERO******* God Bless President Donald Trump, his wife, family, legal team, friends, Q followers, most of all his security team and their families too, God Bless America and you the reader Too. 🙏
The Colorado SC ruling is obviously going to the Appellate Court. It will ultimately be thrown out.
Vivek is a Harvard trained lawyer so Vivek KNOWS that President Trump WILL be on Colorado's primary ballot. Vivek knows this is all just a Psywar event based on lawfare smoke and mirrors.
However, kudos to Vivek for being PsyWar Savvy and Politically Agile.
Whether he's knowingly or unknowingly Trumps proxy during the primary, its fun watching him btfo DeSanctimonious and Birdbrain over and over again.
Cmon, at this point he knows all too well that he isnt defeating Trump just as DeSantis, Haley and Christie know full well that the only way they can is through tactics like these and Jackass Smith, the JamesGang and FoneyFani nefarious lawsuits.
I dont trust him either but he is kinda the comic relief in this.
Exactly...he knows he has no chance of winning in 2024. Just making a mass appeal to the populace. It is the only logical move for him; do not make the mistake of trusting this man.
In his eyes maybe; but I think Trump and team know better. Truthfully; I would be very concerned if they select him as VP, unless he is a white hat. But nothing so far would suggest he is one.
He is Odemon 2.0 just a lighter color .. you’re correct in what you are saying ! It’s amazing how quickly people get swayed . My God, he’s says something that is a No brainer and everyone automatically forgets who he is and starts looking his way . This is war , you’re either for us or against us ! He is not for us , he is stirring a pot of poison that smells nice . We can not bow to niceties, yes what he said is right , yes he didn’t need to say it .. besides the point .. if he wanted to do what is right he would get out of the race and stand for righteousness, he would stand by a man who is being unjustly attacked because he stands against evil . You want to do the right thing Vivek … get behind the truth and stand against tyranny , you don’t fight for a winning team by being on the wrong side …Period !
Trump says good things about him; I don't have any way to know what's in his heart, but I suspect he's on Team Trump and with the White Hats now, for whatever reason (pressure from the White Hats? He was always a White Hat sleeper? Something else?).
As always, only time will tell. But for how he's helping the Great Awakening and I'm happy for that.
That is a good point, though I would expect him to do so as we move closer -- good or bad, Trump will want to position himself above. Unless he knows he's vying for VP.
I'm thinking that's why Kash Patel is in the news so much lately. Get the public used to seeing him before springing him on the ballot. The reason why I think that... Patel has always been loyal to Trump but also he is tempering his own statements lately. e.g. in another posting today on GAW, Patel says that he thinks the FBi is salvageable. Would be curious to see if he continues on this 'softer Kash'. Might give us a hint.
spez: regarding Vivek, there are many positions that Trump could consider Vivek to fill if Trump thinks he is truly on board, for instance, SoS. (Remember Buttigieg was a candidate last time, and he got plugged into Trans Secy. Biden had to know in advance that the Dems were going to roll out the 'white supremacy' campaign during his term and Buttigieg's VP consideration was DOA.)
My mother had a saying that leopards never change their spots.
He was and probably still is in the WEF.
This whole thing reminds me of when way back I saw Desanctimonious for who he was. I stated it and the people on here mercilessly called me names and called me crazy.
Yes, it appears he was (and perhaps IS) deep state to the core.
Then again, Trump was a Democrat for most of his adult life, and spent much time hob-nobbing with them.
As I've said twice in this particular comment chain, I have no way of knowing what his true intentions are. I don't know what's in his heart or in his mind.
I am comfortable with that sort of ambiguity because that's how the world actually is: probabilities in almost all situations, not the comfortable certainties we expect, crave, and imagine in our own minds.
You could very well be right about Vivek -- I am NOT arguing with you. But I have to say, as time goes on, I'm feeling more and more than he's either JOINED the White Hats sincerely (whether forced or just having decided on his own) or that he's been a sleeper / mole for the White Hats from the beginning.
I'm perfectly ready to be wrong, although of course I hope he's actually one of the good guys. But maybe not.
In the meantime, the redpills he's dispensing to the normies are definitely helping OUR cause, not the Cabal's.
He is a battering ram to the media and uni party.
Wouldn't dream of voting for him...
I suspect his role is to say the stuff Trump should say but can't because of the MSM filter. When Trump says it brainwashed normies believe the media spin. Ramaswamp can say it, no filter applied and shove red suppositories to the mind controlled masses
Bootsie, Krispy and Birdy are all placed by the deepstate the very who also took Trump out of the ballot. Prove us wrong by following Vivek's actions.
Trump already discredited all the 3 after the last GOP debate. He explicitly quoted Vivek had won the debate (- for those Vivek haters in this forum) and never criticized him. So far Vivek has been saying right and beautiful things as well as taking right actions. Hope he stays consistent in the time to come and doesn't get compromised on the way. Of course, there is no reason to vote for him while Trump is still running. That's absurd. Some of us think he is only a red piller for the time being and will fold and yield to Trump later.
I do hear "oh.. what about Obama quotes?"... is it possible that he wanted to win the sheeple by quoting what was already accepted phrase during early campaigns? Obama was a great orator, most of us fell for him. Perhaps some of his sentences sunk into Vivek's subconscious and came out automatically? Past doesn't define the person, present actions do.
I disagree with calling people "Vivek haters", because whenever someone says "hater" it sounds whiny and petulant -- no offense.
I think people are just rightfully distrusting now, which I would consider a good thing up until they say they won't vote for Trump if he picks X/Y/Z candidate, then they are the ones being whiny and petulant.
I agree past doesn't define a person, that's a huge part of growing and moving forward. But it does make people right to distrust.
Distrusting is one thing, calling names and issuing strong unjust statements about him is another thing. I disagree on your judgement on being whiny and petulant too. Because it was an objective observation based on the comments issued on this forum. Not taking it back. Calling it what it is.
Just know he has been groomed to be the AntiTrump.
He is a false prophet, trying to take the place of the real DJT.
He is not for your freedom.
Do not be fooled.
The only way to win a rigged game is not to play. Ramaswampy is playing the long game, saves money. Every GOP candidate that has their name on the ballot is the uniparty being made public and probably will end their campaign after to maintain the DS R vs. D. facade.
Ramaswampy is the R Obama to take out Trump by splintering the R vote for Newsome.
I remain skeptical of Vivek, but the way he keeps clearly winning the debates and then watching the media keep lying and saying he lost every debate badly makes me at least consider that he might not completely be a swamp creation.
He's not stepping up. He's playing the game to win the nomination if Trump can't run. He doesn't WANT Trump to run. If he did, he wouldn't be running himself. He's simply positioning himself as an alternative, God forbid, if Trump can't run.
Be wary of those telling you exactly what they know you want to hear.
So its appealed up and the Scotus overturns this decision, is he going to be running to get his name back on the ballot? Lack of forsight and thinking about short term optics are not qualities I value in a potential leader.
He is running for office so he can get on stage and drop those redpills. Those debates have some very large audiences. To me I think Vivek submitted. Vivek was potentially facing prison time for the ripping of investors with the pharm scheme. He was given an offer he couldn't refuse.
Regardless, if he is on Trump's payroll or he is a blackhat Trojan horse trying to divide Trump base, he is making every other candidate on the stage look like buffoons. He is exposing the deepstate playbook while legitimizing all the data points that the media has brushed off as conspiracy theories.
Much of the American public have not looked down their first rabbit hole. I'm willing to bet Vivek is creating a lot of curiosity, making mental connections the sheep have never considered. The audience is applauding him as he exposes the truth. Vivek's words will be remembered as the drip, drip Q spoke of, then the waterfall comes.
Vivek hasn’t thought this through. Even if everyone withdrew from the GOP ballot in CO so there would be Republicans running for President there, all that means is the Dem presidential nominee would then be running uncontested in the 2024 general election. How would that help anything? LOL!
If you trust Obama 2.0 you're a damn fool. This guy is clowing so hard to get some numbers it's pathetic. Trump is NOT being taken off the ballot, if you read the shit ramblings from the Colarado court it clearly says that if Trump appeals to the SCOTUS they will abstain from removing him and wait for instruction from SCOTUS. AKA this is all a fucking psyop by them. Everyhting is bullshit.
I don’t trust him either but he is stepping up and calling out the other candidates to do the same, and calling on Congress to stand up to this.
More popcorn please.
He is the Elon Musk of RINO politics. Don't trust him, but his interests currently align with mine and he is entertaining to boot.
I'll get the popcorn machine running.
Lots of butter please
The salt comes free!
🍿
We are chefs
Good analogy 😎
Yeah if nothing else he is doing something honorable and getting attention for it. In Politics that ain't too common these days!
That's why I maintain I appreciate him for what he is. No one else seems willing to do it.
Trusting him is a separate issue.
He’s a manchurian candidate. He is going to say exactly what MAGA folk want to hear, even after getting elected. They know what we want. But he isn’t it.
Bingo.
Same here, No trust factor of ZERO******* God Bless President Donald Trump, his wife, family, legal team, friends, Q followers, most of all his security team and their families too, God Bless America and you the reader Too. 🙏
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Lawfare 101:
The Colorado SC ruling is obviously going to the Appellate Court. It will ultimately be thrown out.
Vivek is a Harvard trained lawyer so Vivek KNOWS that President Trump WILL be on Colorado's primary ballot. Vivek knows this is all just a Psywar event based on lawfare smoke and mirrors.
However, kudos to Vivek for being PsyWar Savvy and Politically Agile.
Whether he's knowingly or unknowingly Trumps proxy during the primary, its fun watching him btfo DeSanctimonious and Birdbrain over and over again.
For now:
Deep States attack dog == Chris Christie
Trumps attack dog == Vivek
This is a smart take. Vivek is slimy, but also shrewd. I can see him working this out.
Still don't trust him.
Me either, but he didn't have to do this
He's trying to make himself look good so that he can sway voters his way.
All politicians do that…even Trump.
Part of the job description.
And whether he is a black or white hat or just an opportunist, looks to me like Vivek's running for VP.
Wrong Trump is genuine.
He loves this country and the people.
Vivek is an opportunist.
I never said Trump wasn't genuine.
I was not saying you did.
I was making an analogy.
Understood. Thanks!
Cmon, at this point he knows all too well that he isnt defeating Trump just as DeSantis, Haley and Christie know full well that the only way they can is through tactics like these and Jackass Smith, the JamesGang and FoneyFani nefarious lawsuits.
I dont trust him either but he is kinda the comic relief in this.
No it is not comic relief.
He is hurting our side.
Someone at work said I am starting to like this Vivek guy.
I just cringed and said no way.
He said well he says all the right things.
Then I sent him links and told him to read and investigate. I sent the one which showed Vivek and Obama side by side.
Hopefully he did.
Exactly...he knows he has no chance of winning in 2024. Just making a mass appeal to the populace. It is the only logical move for him; do not make the mistake of trusting this man.
I 100% agree.
or maybe just Trump so he can be VP
In his eyes maybe; but I think Trump and team know better. Truthfully; I would be very concerned if they select him as VP, unless he is a white hat. But nothing so far would suggest he is one.
You may be correct.
He is not to be trusted.
"Still don't trust him".
Wise decision, anon.
Trust ie confidence is EARNED over time; a looooong time. If ever.
As DJT has said since the 80s, "trust no one, after all, you never know who someone truly is, including yourself, without trials by fire".
Thank you.
He reminds me of Obama 2.0.
He is Odemon 2.0 just a lighter color .. you’re correct in what you are saying ! It’s amazing how quickly people get swayed . My God, he’s says something that is a No brainer and everyone automatically forgets who he is and starts looking his way . This is war , you’re either for us or against us ! He is not for us , he is stirring a pot of poison that smells nice . We can not bow to niceties, yes what he said is right , yes he didn’t need to say it .. besides the point .. if he wanted to do what is right he would get out of the race and stand for righteousness, he would stand by a man who is being unjustly attacked because he stands against evil . You want to do the right thing Vivek … get behind the truth and stand against tyranny , you don’t fight for a winning team by being on the wrong side …Period !
Exactly.
Someone at work said I am starting to like this Vivek guy.
I just cringed and said no way.
He said well he says all the right things.
Then I sent him links and told him to read and investigate. I sent the one which showed Vivek and Obama side by side.
Hopefully he did.
I think he suppose to, many voted for that scum BO using those words & tactics.
Maybe the demoncratic tactics are being used against them....?
It is also hurting our side.
Look at the people even on here defending him.
Trump says good things about him; I don't have any way to know what's in his heart, but I suspect he's on Team Trump and with the White Hats now, for whatever reason (pressure from the White Hats? He was always a White Hat sleeper? Something else?).
As always, only time will tell. But for how he's helping the Great Awakening and I'm happy for that.
No he is trying to get voters to him.
He is there to divide.
Remember how Obama did that when he ran?
People even on here get fooled so easily.
They're going to try this in other states. Then he will say we'll I tried so if you can't vote Trump vote for me.
Bet me.
No bet; as I said above: I don't have any way to know what's in his heart.
He might be a snake in the grass; he might be completely on our side.
Once again: only time will tell.
If he's completely on our side, why exactly is he running for POTUS when EVERYONE on our side wants Trump?
To redpill the normies. He's giving TRUMP'S answers to the questions at the debate, standing up for MAGA in Trump's absence.
It is not unheard of to run against a candidate in hopes that you can get a VP spot which puts you in the running after their term is over.
Unlike DeSantis, Vivek isn't shitting all over Trump or us, so that's an important distinction between those two.
I also find it interesting that Trump hasn't given Vivek a derogatory nickname yet either.
That is a good point, though I would expect him to do so as we move closer -- good or bad, Trump will want to position himself above. Unless he knows he's vying for VP.
It's also possible he's being the biggest opportunist of the bunch
I'm thinking that's why Kash Patel is in the news so much lately. Get the public used to seeing him before springing him on the ballot. The reason why I think that... Patel has always been loyal to Trump but also he is tempering his own statements lately. e.g. in another posting today on GAW, Patel says that he thinks the FBi is salvageable. Would be curious to see if he continues on this 'softer Kash'. Might give us a hint.
spez: regarding Vivek, there are many positions that Trump could consider Vivek to fill if Trump thinks he is truly on board, for instance, SoS. (Remember Buttigieg was a candidate last time, and he got plugged into Trans Secy. Biden had to know in advance that the Dems were going to roll out the 'white supremacy' campaign during his term and Buttigieg's VP consideration was DOA.)
Read about his past.
My mother had a saying that leopards never change their spots.
He was and probably still is in the WEF.
This whole thing reminds me of when way back I saw Desanctimonious for who he was. I stated it and the people on here mercilessly called me names and called me crazy.
In time I was vindicated.
Yes, I've looked into his past.
Yes, it appears he was (and perhaps IS) deep state to the core.
Then again, Trump was a Democrat for most of his adult life, and spent much time hob-nobbing with them.
As I've said twice in this particular comment chain, I have no way of knowing what his true intentions are. I don't know what's in his heart or in his mind.
I am comfortable with that sort of ambiguity because that's how the world actually is: probabilities in almost all situations, not the comfortable certainties we expect, crave, and imagine in our own minds.
You could very well be right about Vivek -- I am NOT arguing with you. But I have to say, as time goes on, I'm feeling more and more than he's either JOINED the White Hats sincerely (whether forced or just having decided on his own) or that he's been a sleeper / mole for the White Hats from the beginning.
I'm perfectly ready to be wrong, although of course I hope he's actually one of the good guys. But maybe not.
In the meantime, the redpills he's dispensing to the normies are definitely helping OUR cause, not the Cabal's.
Strong move.
He is a battering ram to the media and uni party. Wouldn't dream of voting for him... I suspect his role is to say the stuff Trump should say but can't because of the MSM filter. When Trump says it brainwashed normies believe the media spin. Ramaswamp can say it, no filter applied and shove red suppositories to the mind controlled masses
I've started to wonder this possibility myself, seems interesting that Trump doesn't have a disparaging nickname for him either.
Very interesting. Red pill herring.
Yes, calling out CO GOP DS
Wow, let's see what those other 3 losers do!! 😃
Exactly! This is getting interesting.
Bootsie, Krispy and Birdy are all placed by the deepstate the very who also took Trump out of the ballot. Prove us wrong by following Vivek's actions.
Trump already discredited all the 3 after the last GOP debate. He explicitly quoted Vivek had won the debate (- for those Vivek haters in this forum) and never criticized him. So far Vivek has been saying right and beautiful things as well as taking right actions. Hope he stays consistent in the time to come and doesn't get compromised on the way. Of course, there is no reason to vote for him while Trump is still running. That's absurd. Some of us think he is only a red piller for the time being and will fold and yield to Trump later.
I do hear "oh.. what about Obama quotes?"... is it possible that he wanted to win the sheeple by quoting what was already accepted phrase during early campaigns? Obama was a great orator, most of us fell for him. Perhaps some of his sentences sunk into Vivek's subconscious and came out automatically? Past doesn't define the person, present actions do.
I disagree with calling people "Vivek haters", because whenever someone says "hater" it sounds whiny and petulant -- no offense.
I think people are just rightfully distrusting now, which I would consider a good thing up until they say they won't vote for Trump if he picks X/Y/Z candidate, then they are the ones being whiny and petulant.
I agree past doesn't define a person, that's a huge part of growing and moving forward. But it does make people right to distrust.
Distrusting is one thing, calling names and issuing strong unjust statements about him is another thing. I disagree on your judgement on being whiny and petulant too. Because it was an objective observation based on the comments issued on this forum. Not taking it back. Calling it what it is.
Good.
Gotta give him credit where credit is due.
Some recent stuff others posted on this forum:
https://rumble.com/v3xp2td-vivek-vs-obama-vivek-copies-obama-word-for-word.-will-they-fool-you-again.html
https://vashiva.com/dr-shiva-vivek-the-snake/
Just know he has been groomed to be the AntiTrump. He is a false prophet, trying to take the place of the real DJT. He is not for your freedom. Do not be fooled.
The only way to win a rigged game is not to play. Ramaswampy is playing the long game, saves money. Every GOP candidate that has their name on the ballot is the uniparty being made public and probably will end their campaign after to maintain the DS R vs. D. facade.
Ramaswampy is the R Obama to take out Trump by splintering the R vote for Newsome.
Those who have ears to hear …
Nice moves, but I still don’t trust this candidate. Be careful to the one that singing into your ears.
There's the person who sings to my ears and gets plenty of TV time with favorable or mixed reception (Vivek).
Then there's the person who sings to my ears and gets attacked and persecuted from all sides.
I like that you pointed this out.
Great advice ! Truth ….
Wow you people are easily fooled.
No he is trying to get voters to him.
He is there to divide.
Remember how Obama did that when he ran?
People even on here get fooled so easily.
They're going to try this in other states. Then he will say welI I tried so if you can't vote Trump vote for me.
Bet me.
Correct … He knows it will be shot down by scotus , he grabbed an opportunity like all good snakes do !
Then I would have to ask why you can't see what is really happening?
Do you remember how Obama SAID the right words but did exactly the opposite?
How can you be fooled so easily?
Go watch the side by side of Vivek and Obama talking. They are the same.
This country made one big ass mistake with Obama. Don't be fooled again.
Vivek was on the WEF.
From what I've seen of anyone who likes Vivek most of them were until DeSimps just a few months ago and were always fair-weather Republicans not MAGA.
There’s still some???s on guy, but he just put some skin in the game, if he follows through.
I remain skeptical of Vivek, but the way he keeps clearly winning the debates and then watching the media keep lying and saying he lost every debate badly makes me at least consider that he might not completely be a swamp creation.
He's not stepping up. He's playing the game to win the nomination if Trump can't run. He doesn't WANT Trump to run. If he did, he wouldn't be running himself. He's simply positioning himself as an alternative, God forbid, if Trump can't run.
Be wary of those telling you exactly what they know you want to hear.
Have you considered that we may need an alternative?
There are those of us who are hedging their bets and believe that Trump has to lose again in some fashion for more decisive action to be taken.
Say that loss is created by multiple states doing this and SCOTUS turning the case down or directly supporting it personally?
Who would you vote for in that situation? Clown Clops? The land whale who only needs to exist to lose weight?
I'm sorry, but I am getting Barack Obama vibes from him. I don't trust him.
u/fthecoup
You may be right. This is a nice gesture.
Nice move. Maybe moving in VP race
It turns out that the CO SC decision is a big nothing burger.
So its appealed up and the Scotus overturns this decision, is he going to be running to get his name back on the ballot? Lack of forsight and thinking about short term optics are not qualities I value in a potential leader.
I'm not ready to trust the guy, but I appreciate that he sees what is going on and realizes that it could be him next.
Is he on AF1? Looks like a plane.
P R stunt. Why not back out of the race. Dude is in 4th place. Instead he pandering to the base and those still on the fence about Trump
I think this guy is working with Trump. He is simply a proxy for Trump in the debates. He knows he doesn't stand a chance but that is not his mission.
So maybe he is a white hat?
He is running for office so he can get on stage and drop those redpills. Those debates have some very large audiences. To me I think Vivek submitted. Vivek was potentially facing prison time for the ripping of investors with the pharm scheme. He was given an offer he couldn't refuse.
Regardless, if he is on Trump's payroll or he is a blackhat Trojan horse trying to divide Trump base, he is making every other candidate on the stage look like buffoons. He is exposing the deepstate playbook while legitimizing all the data points that the media has brushed off as conspiracy theories.
Much of the American public have not looked down their first rabbit hole. I'm willing to bet Vivek is creating a lot of curiosity, making mental connections the sheep have never considered. The audience is applauding him as he exposes the truth. Vivek's words will be remembered as the drip, drip Q spoke of, then the waterfall comes.
Oh you can tell he is doing this to see if he can win MAGA. I don’t trust him at all.
Smart move to save face.
He demands?
He should just drop out of the race if he actually gives a damn.
AFTER the other 3 clowns
Here makes to much $$$$$$$
Vivek hasn’t thought this through. Even if everyone withdrew from the GOP ballot in CO so there would be Republicans running for President there, all that means is the Dem presidential nominee would then be running uncontested in the 2024 general election. How would that help anything? LOL!
If you trust Obama 2.0 you're a damn fool. This guy is clowing so hard to get some numbers it's pathetic. Trump is NOT being taken off the ballot, if you read the shit ramblings from the Colarado court it clearly says that if Trump appeals to the SCOTUS they will abstain from removing him and wait for instruction from SCOTUS. AKA this is all a fucking psyop by them. Everyhting is bullshit.