This is all just smoke. No reason for frogs to get their lily pads all in a twist. Meh, it will all be forgotten by this time next week unless DJT wants the kabuki theater to continue.
Ok fine, I'll temper my statement a bit: There's a third category, neither shill nor stupid. Right now purist right-wingers or nationalists or whatever you wanna call yourselves are going to have to choose: do you want Nationalism or white Christian purist Nationalism, or whatver? If you want just Nationalism, and the best possible economy or whatever based on meritochracy, but not necesaarily the best cultural cohesion, your best bet is currently America. It used to be different, but not for about a generation or so. We're not like Germany 100 years ago, and frankly I don't see a clear way there (not sure we ever really were that way anyway, plus do you really want that?!). But if it's the latter thing, your best bet is probably moving to Russia, but then you've gotta buy into all that entails, like lottsa snow and fighting for Russia. The world ain't perfect, but you just have to make the best of it 🤷♂️.
Dont temper it. The lack of any sort of thinking that runs deeper than the surface is appalling. I think there are three types here: Reactionaries, shills and anons.
I think everyone here in the first group (the bulk) needs to take a step back and reflect on how they allow themselves to be led around by the nose. They allow the death cults rats to manipulate them. They need to stop reacting and start thinking.
The second group can fuck right off. Fucking traitors make me want to puke.
And TY to the third group. Your names will never be known but you are Heroes of America and indeed all of humanity.
BTW how do you deal with the stupid? It frustrates the hell out of me when people give these hot takes without doing any analysis and they get upvoted to the top. They simply take the news at face value and react without stopping to think how it all fits together. How we could be getting played or how the Patriots are playing the death cult. This is a psychological war for fucks sake.
These are the actions that put us in this hole. I have hoped we would be better than this after 8 years. At least here at GAW. Im beginning to think there are a handful of anons and everyone else is a shill. I can count the good posters here on two hands. The stupid just runs so deep.
it's not "stupid" per se. it's failing to learn the next lessons--the black v white trap.
accepting that the answers are grey is difficult.
this particular piece of kabuki is about destroying the H1-B slavery trap at the same time that we talk about replacing it with an actual immigration path that helps us build our team the way we always used to. the answers hide in the middle--in the grey.
OMG you people are too much. How many people who used to hate Trump now love him or voted for him. Did it ever occur to you that was Viveks wake up point WTH is wrong with you.
It's not a good point though and someone already posted this yesterday. I'll echo my comment from that thread. This isn't someone else sowing division, in this case the division is coming directly from Elon and Viveks mouth and actions. And judging by Elons most recent posts he's continuing to double down.
Yeah Elon's push for neuralink is one of the many red flags. I also should note I've never been an Elon hater either. I like the guy for the most part personally. But that doesn't mean I trust him either.
So in other words unless they are 100% what you think then they should be out. When did you wake up? How many others only woke up in the last 4 years. You dont think people deserve a chance.
Its nice to know you are so perfect while the rest of us arent.
This is such an idiotic strawman of an argument. Elon is continuing to insult patriots intelligence and dissenters are getting their accounts flagged and/or suspended. Wtf does this have to do with expecting perfection??
One thing I learned about Trump from before he was president: he hates "yes-men". So I find it perfectly valid to scrutenize his appointments. In fact, not doing so and blindly accepting them is more dangerous, and I think Trump would agree. He can't do it all himself.
This. A few people are claiming that PDJT's silence is his agreement. I feel that he is allowing Vivek and Elon to expose themselves. Elon tripling down is pretty eye opening.
I can see DJT supporting H-1B he has ever said that we want the best and brightest. that is consistent with everything that he has done. I can see him wanting to root out the abuses of the system. DOGE could point out the abuses.. how many DoS bureaucrats are involved in the H-1B process?
I know for a fact that Clinton allowed Sudanese dipped in Saudi students to gain visas...
Kek they are leading themselves around. This one psyop tweet isn't even directed at anons... yet here some are acting as if there has been a mutiny on the ship!
I'd wager the whole faux debacle is to wake up more normies and keep the pundits busy with misdirected talking points. Which it is doing both. I suppose frogs getting triggered and further pushing the obvious nationalist response is part of that process. Yet, it's no excuse to be blind to the fact that they are playing into the psyop.
If these foreigners are so smart why do their nations of origin suck? Why are they here taking jobs from American youth?
Get them the fuck out of here.
That's not what we voted for.
If these foreigners are so smart why do their nations of origin suck?
Because they can move to USA instead of living a bit harder way and cleaning the mess in the place they were born. It would require them to make more effort or even to demand political change. Moving to USA is easier for them.
Are some of those people moving to USA good for USA ? Maybe even yes despite as you mentioned - American youth losing their chances. In short term. In long therm it would be beneficial to both USA and their countries of origin if they would stay. Even if they would be indeed better suited to their positions than people already living in USA.
I am saying it as non-American anon. Person for which moving elsewhere would be potentially much better personally. But - I am Polish and I am Patriot. So I stay in my country and do what I can here.Not too much and it makes me sad,but... I do not condemn people who chose otherwise. But I know what is right and I try to do it right.
Something has to be done about employment system and education in USA
(and don't say it is all working great - it looks somewhere is the problem) and something has to be done in countries people want to run from - and USA can lead such change being in fact in the best interest of USA. Because spreading American values and having real friends not some states sucking you from dollars is important. You cannot be puppet "empire" of cabal and its planned scapegoat like former "british" empire any longer,and you cannot truly liberate yourself without leading the great awakening liberating whole world from cabal grasp. Or at least its part big enough to guarantee your survival. You need us,and we need you.
Such liberation requires rather spreading American values (among which freedom is most important) than "best brains" being in USA. What is for example better - some Indians in USA or India and its people being in long therm on the same side as is the USA ? Harder way,less profitable in short term - but great. And investment isn't about short therm profit but about long therm gain. Real profits and things beyond of it come from doing great things requiring more effort. Requiring vision !
And President Trump knows it too - it was his whole life as businessman. He would maybe get more money on the stock market (or not) but he were doing great real things and he is proud of it. And it is well justified pride.
Sometimes greatest victory is not simply being strong alone,but from being strong one among friends.
Interesting points.
As an American we would love to see other nations excel in good things.
We are being manipulated by oligarchs of every kind. We need to wake up now.
Vivek and Elon are the scum bags in this instance. They brought this on themselves and instead of listening to the people that want America first, they're telling them to fuck off and doubling down on other countries taking American jobs.
Telling Americans that our culture is inferior to the country with a horrific rape problem and designated shitting streets is an insult up there with Hillary's "deplorables." Elon and Vivek deserve every single bit of criticism coming their way.
We had to filter out the RINOS from MAGA.
And inundating America's workforce with foreign trash is not America First. Treating America as a "sports ball" team is not America First.
What people like you who keep making this argument are not getting is that this isn't from external sources. The continued antagonization is coming from Elon and Vivek directly.
You people fall for every psyop thrown our way. WTF Cates is absolutely right. You would give our victory right back to them. Stupid people havent learned a damn thing in these last 8 years.
No duh. Suddenly right on queue, this anti-Indian sentiment rips like wild-fire through the freedom community, as if to not join the bandwaggon means you're not real MAGA, which tears down Vivek, Elon, and Kash Patel. Perhaps worth asking yourself: are these thoughts my own? Who do these thoughts most benefit?
The fact that we are having this debate is sad. Fuck these Punjabi tech workers depressing US tech worker salaries. These men overstay their visas and become illegal immigrants
How quickly people forget that multiple things can be true at once.
Elon can be the answer to rooting out the rot that has spread through our government
BUT ALSO
Elon can be all cheap Indian Tech labor for his companies.
I never trust someone on every single factor. Nobody is perfect.
I'm convinced there is a rat inside that banned the people contesting him on it. Elon being about "free speech" suddenly banning people for exercising it is not on-brand for him.
I'm willing to bet DOGE is a deep state ploy as a counter measure to Trump closing the border. DOGE would gain 'credibility' regulating and auditing other agencies, but the visa issue they would try to use DOGE to funnel in more migrants illegitimately.
People say a lot of what they are gonna do or not do. I’m just saying I want to see what they do or don’t do. It’s equally a possibility that they saw the outrage and are rethinking or talking about it. I’m not slurping their balls I just want to see and hold out hope that for once in our lives we can have patriots making patriot decisions
Oh I'm not accusing you of doing that lol! Though I will say Elon saw the outrage and he's since doubled down. The same guy that's talked at length that DEI is bad is the same guy that we need to increase immigration and hire more non- Americans.... so he's pro DEI?
Patriots wouldn't be talking like that. Patriots are America first.
All good friend I guess I just wanna be hopeful. And hopefully we don’t have a bunch of in fighting within the Maga camp. I feel like Trump is on social media enough as is Don Junior, etc. that there’s a conversation about this if not that is concerning.
So what are people here suggesting by that? DO you think Trump made the wrong pick? I, for one, am on team Trump. I think he took all these points into consideration a while ago & if anything, he has a way to use them to our advantage.
We'll see. The demographics of this country have changed dramatically. Americans had this shit forced on them since 1965. And now we are told to accept this globalist melting pot they created. Fuck no
We're not peasants who have sit there and take Elon repeatedly calling us "retarded." We are allowed to defend ourselves. If anyone needs to STFU, it's Elon.
Nobody started this debate other than Elon and Vivek themselves. It’s a needed debate, but I question if it was ever 4D chess when Elon shadow banned folks on X for arguing with him, and even deleting someone’s account who ratioed him.
Dude I don’t have a clue. The timing of this particular topic is perfect, and is a needed discussion, nothing else is really major in the news cycle to obscure it, and Trump hasn’t said a peep about it which is unusual.
just my anecdote: SWE since 2008, didn't take more than 3 months to find a contract all those years until something dramatically changed in 2021. laid off in 2022 and couldn't find a job to save my life (literally) for 2 SOLID YEARS, despite over 2000 applications sent out on record. Before 2021, my phone would ring 3-5 times a day, recruiters wanted my diverse skillset. After 2021, I'd get maybe 1-3 calls on a good week, I had 3 interviews in 2022 and 5 interviews in 2024, abysmal contrast to all the years prior. After 2 years being unemployed, my savings ran out and I needed help from family as I madly scoured job boards, LinkedIn "connections" and sprayed customized resume's out in all directions. Thank The Most High that I found a contract.. Something is obviously wrong with hiring in America and, of course I see the H-1B abuse firsthand getting worse every year. My #1 issue this election was/is: FIX THE JOB MARKET.
I commiserate with you and I agree with you that they need to fix the job market. You should be glad you had several jobs prior to being unemployed for a while, while for me, I have not even begun my career since graduating from college 20+ years ago and after 5,000+ applications that went out, I only went on like 3 or 4 interviews and still nothing. It really sucks living month to month on a very, very limited and fixed income the last 20+ years. I couldn't even start a savings or a 401k plan.
What Elon and Vivek said really pissed me off so I had to step away for a bit yesterday and today, until now to come back. I don't know if all of this is a psyop or they both are truly this stupid to think we need more Indians after Tesla laid off about 15k employees and Elon saying we need AI to take over jobs. Why the hell do we need more foreigners to take over our jobs when there are perfectly capable Americans who can do the fucking jobs here in America like you, me and others!?
Hopefully a better tomorrow will come soon for us Americans!
VIvek was always a snake and he exposed himself.
Elon is shooting himself especially now that he is agreeing with foreigner Ian Cheong* who is calling MAGA retards and racisists.
Nobody forced Elon to repeatedly call us "retarded" for protesting our own systemic discrimination. That is 100% on Elon, not some conspiratorial forces. Elon brought this on himself.
All they have left is spinning false narratives and attempting to cause distrust and division among Q and the team and their followers. Too little too late. Not gonna happen. We’ve already won 🇺🇸 There is nothing else.
Would it be too much to ask for posts of twitter statements to include the statement, or a summary of it, rather than requiring clicking on the link to twitter?
There's no debate. I never liked Vivek and I'd literally take open civil war over voting a street shitter into the White House. Same for Elon and anyone else who wants to bring 3rd world savages here at the expense of Americans.
Bullshit. They can do what they intend to do with DOGE and this be a side conversation. Infact, what they want to do with DOGE should be priority for them as well. Not this.
Public reminder: DOGE is not needed to drain the swamp. What need to be done is something that we already have a massive detailed information from Ron Paul and the Mises institute.
A Big tech and a big pharma bro is not needed for it at all.
Djeez all this fucking simping is just so retarded.
Newsweek and MSM were pumping out headlines and the top third of CFP was all headlines about it distracting people from reveals about the jab and pardons and other things...
We don't want a 'healthy debate'. We want America First and that includes our own workers, from picking crops to tweaking the 'tech'.
Im negging every stupid person in this thread who hasnt learned a fucking thing in 8 years of psyops.
Yes.
This is all just smoke. No reason for frogs to get their lily pads all in a twist. Meh, it will all be forgotten by this time next week unless DJT wants the kabuki theater to continue.
Either stupid people or psyop shills...
Ok fine, I'll temper my statement a bit: There's a third category, neither shill nor stupid. Right now purist right-wingers or nationalists or whatever you wanna call yourselves are going to have to choose: do you want Nationalism or white Christian purist Nationalism, or whatver? If you want just Nationalism, and the best possible economy or whatever based on meritochracy, but not necesaarily the best cultural cohesion, your best bet is currently America. It used to be different, but not for about a generation or so. We're not like Germany 100 years ago, and frankly I don't see a clear way there (not sure we ever really were that way anyway, plus do you really want that?!). But if it's the latter thing, your best bet is probably moving to Russia, but then you've gotta buy into all that entails, like lottsa snow and fighting for Russia. The world ain't perfect, but you just have to make the best of it 🤷♂️.
There are three classes of people:
Those who see.
Those who see when they are shown.
Those who do not see.
--Leonardo da Vinci
Actually only two kinds of people:
Those that group people into categories
Those that don't
which of those two groups do you think you would land in?
Irony was the point of my comment.
Dont temper it. The lack of any sort of thinking that runs deeper than the surface is appalling. I think there are three types here: Reactionaries, shills and anons.
I think everyone here in the first group (the bulk) needs to take a step back and reflect on how they allow themselves to be led around by the nose. They allow the death cults rats to manipulate them. They need to stop reacting and start thinking.
The second group can fuck right off. Fucking traitors make me want to puke.
And TY to the third group. Your names will never be known but you are Heroes of America and indeed all of humanity.
everyone needa to be in one category. people need to be more uniform.
also no 1a or 2a.
The two are often one and the same.
This guy has a better, more in depth theory about the psyop:
https://x.com/JoeLang51440671/status/1872705497624653832
BTW how do you deal with the stupid? It frustrates the hell out of me when people give these hot takes without doing any analysis and they get upvoted to the top. They simply take the news at face value and react without stopping to think how it all fits together. How we could be getting played or how the Patriots are playing the death cult. This is a psychological war for fucks sake.
These are the actions that put us in this hole. I have hoped we would be better than this after 8 years. At least here at GAW. Im beginning to think there are a handful of anons and everyone else is a shill. I can count the good posters here on two hands. The stupid just runs so deep.
it's not "stupid" per se. it's failing to learn the next lessons--the black v white trap. accepting that the answers are grey is difficult.
this particular piece of kabuki is about destroying the H1-B slavery trap at the same time that we talk about replacing it with an actual immigration path that helps us build our team the way we always used to. the answers hide in the middle--in the grey.
Cant get to twitter on this pc. Can you give me a time stamp so I can look it up? Joe is a top analyst and a must read.
What! You don't want Indias eLiTe eNgInEeRs?!?!
Yes I don’t want every building contaminated with curry.
This no more H1B’s PERIOD. END OF STORY.
There is no debate or compromise
Yup. Don’t blame this on anyone other than Elon on Vivek.
Okay. Where you going to find them? Too many people don't want to work, now, as it is.
Keep in mind Vivek accepted a scholarship from Soros. Could be nothing? Could be it is something.
He was also funded by big pharma, pushed a known unsafe drug. He also was telling people not to vote for Trump.
OMG you people are too much. How many people who used to hate Trump now love him or voted for him. Did it ever occur to you that was Viveks wake up point WTH is wrong with you.
How many are grifting trump after he humiliated them into submission you mean?
Now you think they love him or his power as president of the most powerful economy and military known to man?
Use your brain.
Pence is still fresh on our minds esp with j20 coming
Was it his first degree and indoctrination? or just convenient?
Was it a later degree after he know better?
Receipts?
How about something worse?
https://www.deseret.com/2023/11/7/23788338/yale-shabtai-jewish-society-vivek-ramaswamy/
It's not a good point though and someone already posted this yesterday. I'll echo my comment from that thread. This isn't someone else sowing division, in this case the division is coming directly from Elon and Viveks mouth and actions. And judging by Elons most recent posts he's continuing to double down.
Always hated vivek, absolute snake. Will never trust Elon because transhumanism.
They both support other countries taking American jobs.
Fuck them both.
Yeah Elon's push for neuralink is one of the many red flags. I also should note I've never been an Elon hater either. I like the guy for the most part personally. But that doesn't mean I trust him either.
I thought I was the only one that saw these things and was like, whiskey tango foxtrot...
Not at all!
Never really trusted Vivek, gives off “young and upcoming Obama” vibes
You could not be more correct: https://rumble.com/v3xp2td-vivek-vs-obama-vivek-copies-obama-word-for-word.-will-they-fool-you-again.html
The amount of anons that thought Elon could/is Q is… just sad.
art of war. read it
Elon is not Q, touch grass.
neither is Sun Tzu. Glad we got that sorted?
Glad we did ☺️
So in other words unless they are 100% what you think then they should be out. When did you wake up? How many others only woke up in the last 4 years. You dont think people deserve a chance.
Its nice to know you are so perfect while the rest of us arent.
This is such an idiotic strawman of an argument. Elon is continuing to insult patriots intelligence and dissenters are getting their accounts flagged and/or suspended. Wtf does this have to do with expecting perfection??
means to an end. birds of a feather. trust the coercion. movie etc.
One thing I learned about Trump from before he was president: he hates "yes-men". So I find it perfectly valid to scrutenize his appointments. In fact, not doing so and blindly accepting them is more dangerous, and I think Trump would agree. He can't do it all himself.
This. A few people are claiming that PDJT's silence is his agreement. I feel that he is allowing Vivek and Elon to expose themselves. Elon tripling down is pretty eye opening.
Yup, I agree.
Ya, I'm not enjoying this. It's small potatoes. Stay unified.
Nope can’t unify in small potatoes.
It is NOT small potatoes. Come to Seattle I will show you what H1B’s have done.
Move to America.
Trying to relocate to the south
Can't unify around nonsense.
Grassroots sowing of the seeds of discontent?
I can see DJT supporting H-1B he has ever said that we want the best and brightest. that is consistent with everything that he has done. I can see him wanting to root out the abuses of the system. DOGE could point out the abuses.. how many DoS bureaucrats are involved in the H-1B process?
I know for a fact that Clinton allowed Sudanese dipped in Saudi students to gain visas...
How many cells were formed this way?
Protect your mind - control your emotions.
u/#5genwarfare
Too stupid, too reactionary to understand they are being led around by the nose.
Kek they are leading themselves around. This one psyop tweet isn't even directed at anons... yet here some are acting as if there has been a mutiny on the ship!
I'd wager the whole faux debacle is to wake up more normies and keep the pundits busy with misdirected talking points. Which it is doing both. I suppose frogs getting triggered and further pushing the obvious nationalist response is part of that process. Yet, it's no excuse to be blind to the fact that they are playing into the psyop.
If these foreigners are so smart why do their nations of origin suck? Why are they here taking jobs from American youth? Get them the fuck out of here. That's not what we voted for.
Because they can move to USA instead of living a bit harder way and cleaning the mess in the place they were born. It would require them to make more effort or even to demand political change. Moving to USA is easier for them.
Are some of those people moving to USA good for USA ? Maybe even yes despite as you mentioned - American youth losing their chances. In short term. In long therm it would be beneficial to both USA and their countries of origin if they would stay. Even if they would be indeed better suited to their positions than people already living in USA.
I am saying it as non-American anon. Person for which moving elsewhere would be potentially much better personally. But - I am Polish and I am Patriot. So I stay in my country and do what I can here.Not too much and it makes me sad,but... I do not condemn people who chose otherwise. But I know what is right and I try to do it right.
Something has to be done about employment system and education in USA (and don't say it is all working great - it looks somewhere is the problem) and something has to be done in countries people want to run from - and USA can lead such change being in fact in the best interest of USA. Because spreading American values and having real friends not some states sucking you from dollars is important. You cannot be puppet "empire" of cabal and its planned scapegoat like former "british" empire any longer,and you cannot truly liberate yourself without leading the great awakening liberating whole world from cabal grasp. Or at least its part big enough to guarantee your survival. You need us,and we need you.
Such liberation requires rather spreading American values (among which freedom is most important) than "best brains" being in USA. What is for example better - some Indians in USA or India and its people being in long therm on the same side as is the USA ? Harder way,less profitable in short term - but great. And investment isn't about short therm profit but about long therm gain. Real profits and things beyond of it come from doing great things requiring more effort. Requiring vision !
And President Trump knows it too - it was his whole life as businessman. He would maybe get more money on the stock market (or not) but he were doing great real things and he is proud of it. And it is well justified pride.
Sometimes greatest victory is not simply being strong alone,but from being strong one among friends.
Interesting points. As an American we would love to see other nations excel in good things. We are being manipulated by oligarchs of every kind. We need to wake up now.
Scum bags tried to tear the MAGA train last time also. It failed.
Vivek and Elon are the scum bags in this instance. They brought this on themselves and instead of listening to the people that want America first, they're telling them to fuck off and doubling down on other countries taking American jobs.
100% anyone supporting H1B’s is an enemy.
ANYONE!!
Telling Americans that our culture is inferior to the country with a horrific rape problem and designated shitting streets is an insult up there with Hillary's "deplorables." Elon and Vivek deserve every single bit of criticism coming their way.
We had to filter out the RINOS from MAGA. And inundating America's workforce with foreign trash is not America First. Treating America as a "sports ball" team is not America First.
Trump will stop it day one. Why wouldnt he?
What people like you who keep making this argument are not getting is that this isn't from external sources. The continued antagonization is coming from Elon and Vivek directly.
MAGA must do purity tests or this will keep happenimg. Struggle sessions if neccessary!!
Doesnt look like it is this time. People are stupid.
Stupid or shills.
Yeah maybe if Elon and vivek could stop with their let's import everyone else, Americans are stupid bullshit I wouldn't want them the fuck out.
My favorite thing right now. Elon being like DEI is bad.... then turning around and saying we need more non American talent!!!
Fuck them both.
the way people live by statements from rich people is sad. tired of them. we all are.
I prefer unity.
I prefer peace.
No peace when East Indian’s are taking over your hometown driving up housing prices and driving locals out and only hire their own.
You people fall for every psyop thrown our way. WTF Cates is absolutely right. You would give our victory right back to them. Stupid people havent learned a damn thing in these last 8 years.
war is hell. art of war. we are the news. wake up.
No duh. Suddenly right on queue, this anti-Indian sentiment rips like wild-fire through the freedom community, as if to not join the bandwaggon means you're not real MAGA, which tears down Vivek, Elon, and Kash Patel. Perhaps worth asking yourself: are these thoughts my own? Who do these thoughts most benefit?
The fact that we are having this debate is sad. Fuck these Punjabi tech workers depressing US tech worker salaries. These men overstay their visas and become illegal immigrants
https://vashiva.com/dr-shiva-vivek-the-snake/
Vivek mirrors Obama https://x.com/RedpillDrifter/status/1806155028157325515?t=mnoPrCykAjEq18t24FNg2A&s=19
How quickly people forget that multiple things can be true at once.
Elon can be the answer to rooting out the rot that has spread through our government
BUT ALSO
Elon can be all cheap Indian Tech labor for his companies.
I never trust someone on every single factor. Nobody is perfect.
I'm convinced there is a rat inside that banned the people contesting him on it. Elon being about "free speech" suddenly banning people for exercising it is not on-brand for him.
"brand" says it all.
I'm willing to bet DOGE is a deep state ploy as a counter measure to Trump closing the border. DOGE would gain 'credibility' regulating and auditing other agencies, but the visa issue they would try to use DOGE to funnel in more migrants illegitimately.
wtf dude
LOL.
Could be. Could also be that Trump, Vivek, and Musk all know their lines because they all are studying the same script. You know...movie.
Elon is still 90% correct in his thinking, we can't sour over him over an opinion he'll likely have little influence over.
We aren’t going to have perfect candidates I want to see what they do. Jd Vance used to hate Trump
Lol. They told you what they're gonna do and you're like let's wait and see.
And america first candidates should be america first? So why is their focus in alignment with mass immigration and calling Americans stupid?
People say a lot of what they are gonna do or not do. I’m just saying I want to see what they do or don’t do. It’s equally a possibility that they saw the outrage and are rethinking or talking about it. I’m not slurping their balls I just want to see and hold out hope that for once in our lives we can have patriots making patriot decisions
Oh I'm not accusing you of doing that lol! Though I will say Elon saw the outrage and he's since doubled down. The same guy that's talked at length that DEI is bad is the same guy that we need to increase immigration and hire more non- Americans.... so he's pro DEI?
Patriots wouldn't be talking like that. Patriots are America first.
Here's hoping for a brighter future fren
PS I didn’t know he doubled down so my hope is fading
All good friend I guess I just wanna be hopeful. And hopefully we don’t have a bunch of in fighting within the Maga camp. I feel like Trump is on social media enough as is Don Junior, etc. that there’s a conversation about this if not that is concerning.
It’s like Speaker Johnson all over again
Jd is American. The other 2 are foreign born grifters.
JD has a Punjabi wife. If you don't think that influences him then I have some beachfront property to sell you
I agree it may influence him. Depending on how much of a beta cuck he is.
I know one of my frens who is major beta and he converts to whatever religion his current wife is. He's had 3 divorces. He's now hindu
He has speeches calling out companies using H1B visas instead of hiring American workers.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/26/exclusive-j-d-vance-new-congress-must-go-after-corporations-replacing-americans-with-foreign-h-1b-visa-workers21/
It's troubling seeing a fox in the hen house. Just asking for problems
So what are people here suggesting by that? DO you think Trump made the wrong pick? I, for one, am on team Trump. I think he took all these points into consideration a while ago & if anything, he has a way to use them to our advantage.
We'll see. The demographics of this country have changed dramatically. Americans had this shit forced on them since 1965. And now we are told to accept this globalist melting pot they created. Fuck no
I agree with you fo sho..Don't like that. At least Bush had an American wife.. That's why our work isn't done.
No argument here.
Vivek and Elon don't make policy, if you trust Trump then STFU about these two.
We're not peasants who have sit there and take Elon repeatedly calling us "retarded." We are allowed to defend ourselves. If anyone needs to STFU, it's Elon.
I agree, both Elon and Vivek need to STFU but like I said, THEY DON'T MAKE POLICY so don't worry about it.
Nobody started this debate other than Elon and Vivek themselves. It’s a needed debate, but I question if it was ever 4D chess when Elon shadow banned folks on X for arguing with him, and even deleting someone’s account who ratioed him.
that was celebrated here yesterday. wonder what the through line is?
Dude I don’t have a clue. The timing of this particular topic is perfect, and is a needed discussion, nothing else is really major in the news cycle to obscure it, and Trump hasn’t said a peep about it which is unusual.
What did I say? Let them do the job and if they DON'T, Trump will take care of it. We do not need to start eating our own!
Stop thinking of the next ten years and think of the next 100.
India will only hire more India and only bring more India.
Period.
America First means AMERICA...FIRST.
Most people have no idea there’s even drama. So overhyped in small circles…some would even call it a vacuum. Personally, Im in wait and see mode.
Must be all my grand kids. I don't have a clue what this thread is about.
just my anecdote: SWE since 2008, didn't take more than 3 months to find a contract all those years until something dramatically changed in 2021. laid off in 2022 and couldn't find a job to save my life (literally) for 2 SOLID YEARS, despite over 2000 applications sent out on record. Before 2021, my phone would ring 3-5 times a day, recruiters wanted my diverse skillset. After 2021, I'd get maybe 1-3 calls on a good week, I had 3 interviews in 2022 and 5 interviews in 2024, abysmal contrast to all the years prior. After 2 years being unemployed, my savings ran out and I needed help from family as I madly scoured job boards, LinkedIn "connections" and sprayed customized resume's out in all directions. Thank The Most High that I found a contract.. Something is obviously wrong with hiring in America and, of course I see the H-1B abuse firsthand getting worse every year. My #1 issue this election was/is: FIX THE JOB MARKET.
Whats sad is when you check the diversity/gender boxes their way....surprise you get a phone call and eventually a job.
I commiserate with you and I agree with you that they need to fix the job market. You should be glad you had several jobs prior to being unemployed for a while, while for me, I have not even begun my career since graduating from college 20+ years ago and after 5,000+ applications that went out, I only went on like 3 or 4 interviews and still nothing. It really sucks living month to month on a very, very limited and fixed income the last 20+ years. I couldn't even start a savings or a 401k plan.
What Elon and Vivek said really pissed me off so I had to step away for a bit yesterday and today, until now to come back. I don't know if all of this is a psyop or they both are truly this stupid to think we need more Indians after Tesla laid off about 15k employees and Elon saying we need AI to take over jobs. Why the hell do we need more foreigners to take over our jobs when there are perfectly capable Americans who can do the fucking jobs here in America like you, me and others!?
Hopefully a better tomorrow will come soon for us Americans!
regulate the free market!
VIvek was always a snake and he exposed himself. Elon is shooting himself especially now that he is agreeing with foreigner Ian Cheong* who is calling MAGA retards and racisists.
Read the entire thread.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1872744295884841262
Nobody forced Elon to repeatedly call us "retarded" for protesting our own systemic discrimination. That is 100% on Elon, not some conspiratorial forces. Elon brought this on himself.
All they have left is spinning false narratives and attempting to cause distrust and division among Q and the team and their followers. Too little too late. Not gonna happen. We’ve already won 🇺🇸 There is nothing else.
Would it be too much to ask for posts of twitter statements to include the statement, or a summary of it, rather than requiring clicking on the link to twitter?
Remember, lots of zooish faggots here… probably JIDF….
Maybe…Perhaps…Could it be that?…Just suppose…And what’s very interesting…is that Cates sounds a lot like Dave of X22. 🤣
There's no debate. I never liked Vivek and I'd literally take open civil war over voting a street shitter into the White House. Same for Elon and anyone else who wants to bring 3rd world savages here at the expense of Americans.
Bullshit. They can do what they intend to do with DOGE and this be a side conversation. Infact, what they want to do with DOGE should be priority for them as well. Not this.
Public reminder: DOGE is not needed to drain the swamp. What need to be done is something that we already have a massive detailed information from Ron Paul and the Mises institute.
A Big tech and a big pharma bro is not needed for it at all.
Djeez all this fucking simping is just so retarded.
I look at DOGE as a non tax burden that makes government waste clear to anyone willing to look. A bit like the Twitter files...
Just more opinionated I guess.
Newsweek and MSM were pumping out headlines and the top third of CFP was all headlines about it distracting people from reveals about the jab and pardons and other things...