Why would Charlie be with a person who seems so unlikable? Everything about her screams, fake. Is it possible she's just comes off as the most disingenuous person your ever saw, again then, Charlie would not have someone like this in his life. It just doesn't add up.
That has been my thought all along. I have always felt something was off with her. I can’t pinpoint it. My boyfriend thinks she “looks” fake but I told him it’s not anything visual for me. It’s deeper. Behind her eyes, her mannerisms… her soul. It just never settled well with me. Charlie must have been blinded by love. No matter how intelligent someone is, it can be hard to be objective with one’s the heart desires.
I think there’s a level of malevolent evil that most of us (me included) have a hard time believing. I think you’re likely correct about Erika. If that’s true it would be so cold, calculated, intimate, to be incomprehensible to normal people.
I also think too many over analyze Charlie. I think he was an honest, sincere open book. Dark forces I believe saw his potential enormous impact on their coveted young minds and couldn’t take any chances. Enter Erika Kirk on a mission to blind Charlie by “love”. Once he started noticing too much and couldn’t be bought his fate was sealed.
John MacAfee's wife said that when she prepared dinner for him, he would first feed 2 servings to her beloved dog & see how she reacted to that because she said that John knew how much she loved that dog & would not want anything bad to happen to it!
Has anyone in here ever seen their spouse shot and killed right in front of you? Blood all over the place. The motions. The sounds?????? I seriously doubt it. We have zero idea what she’s going through. And now the world won’t shut up! Which is Satan. She wants TPUSA to continue. She wants to move on. She wants to protect her family. She wants peace. And no one here, yet, has mentioned her relationship with Jesus. She’s in a spiritual battle right now. If she’s a woman of Christ, which I feel she is, honestly pray for her, rather than cast stones. Is she gonna deal with all this well? Would you? Who would? Who doesn’t make mistakes. Who doesn’t trip and fall. I say people need to back off. And for her, to get out of the cameras and just focus on Jesus and your family. I’d say walk away from TPUSA for now. If it can’t sustain itself, then so be it. If there aren’t others to step up, then so be it. She needs to rest, be silent, focus on our Lord and let Jesus guide her way for now. She can’t possibly hold all this up. Lay these problems at the feet of the Lord. And take your rest. The Holy Spirit will tell you when to move.
If she needs to rest, then why is she making the rounds of the media? If this narrative didn't have so many HOLES in it, no one would be questioning it. We are anons. This is what we do. Put your emotions aside and analyze the data. None of this makes any sense.
I feel she’s trying to hold everything together. She’ll probably fail at that. She isn’t Charlie. I’d hate to be in her position. It’s one many don’t know. She’s the most popular widow in the world. The world saw her husband killed. Her kids will see their dad assassinated for the rest of their lives. Just those issues alone would be difficult. Now add everything else. She’s breaking. And needs help imo.
Personally I’d sum that up to a stage of grief. The world is loud. Hard to shut it out when it’s in every direction. She’s upset. She lost something and probably doesn’t believe what she hears and is being told. Partly at least. I get that. I’m sure she wants answers, but I don’t. I don’t look to this world for answers anymore. I look to my savior Jesus. He holds all the answers. The world is full of lies. Orchestrated by the prince of lies. I truly hope she is surrounded by those who were not like Job’s “friends”, but those who remain faithful in the Lord. And can actually help her.
The Egyptian plane that was following her around was her escape flight if needed. She is a foreign agent. Not of Egypt but some other country. But who I wonder? I shall ponder this some more.
Just playing devil's advocate: what if Erika and Charlie actually loved each other, and she cared deeply about the important work they did. She would feel obligated to carry it on even if everything inside her just wanted to disappear and forget all the pain. According to people at TPUSA it had been discussed that she would run things if something ever happened to Charlie.
As for Erika's mannerisms / behavior that people are criticizing, I honestly think we have gotten so used to seeing polished TV personalities that we forget how imperfect real humans are, especially when emotions are high.
I totally agree not everything adds up, it just isn't as clear to me which way the truth lies.
How can anyone answer that, other than her and her team. They did the obvious. Doesn’t mean it’s right. She isn’t Charlie. IMO she should pass it down to someone on the team or whatever. Where’s the right hand man? If TP can’t sustain, then so be it. She’s doing it because that is what was expected of her. And from what Ive learned, doing others expectations of my own life leaves me the only one out in the cold. She should step away, if possible. My opinion.
Yeah no. It doesn’t make sense. The more she is on Tav the worse it gets. Go home, our, be with the kids. She is no Charlie. She would never be able to handle the questions from the woke left. Which is odd…. Why was he with someone so brittle and unlikable?
Exactly my point. She isn’t Charlie. She lacks the abilities to handle all this. As most wouldn’t be able to either. He was unique. She’s breaking under the weight imo. I feel for her. And am surely not gonna throw stones at her. I don’t think she’s unlikable. Before all this she seemed very pleasant. I feel it’s wrong to judge someone, especially immediately after the car crash. Charlie loved her, and that’s good enough for me.
Just for clarification, Erika said publicly on camera that she has not watched the video of Charlie getting shot and that she never will. So if everything you’re saying is based on that non-happening, then it isn’t exactly valid.
I hope she never does. And everything isn’t based on that. That’s silly. Has Charlie came home yet? As she heard him say “I love you”? Does he answer his children when they say “where’s daddy”? Clearly people have zero clue, that everyone doesn’t handle the death of the next closest person to you like a wartime veteran. Some need help. And instead, they are looking for their weaknesses. How “worldly” of them.
Ive watched candace for a long time. She is quite talented and quick tongued. But I have always felt there was something disingenuous about here going way back.
She is so smug and talks with such glee about destroying TPUSA. Clear signs of narcissism and ego. I doubt she ever really left the left and was an undercover sleeper to destroy the right when the time was right. And here we are. :/
There are a lot of folks on the right who are disappointed with Trump v2.0 so far. Candace Owens didn’t do that. We have done a lot of holding the line over the years, and have reached a point where some of us are beginning to question whether Trump still has the people’s best interests in mind. He seems to be aligned with some shady characters, and it could possibly be under a threat related to the bullet that grazed his ear. Or this could all be part of the complex narrative that has to play out in order to maintain the promise of “Israel for last.” In the long run, we are blind to the chess board—instead of black and white chess pieces, there are shades of gray.
It’s possible that you’re right about Candace’s motives, but from what I can tell, she’s basically throwing political alignments out the window and trying to get to the bottom of an official story that makes no sense, that appeals to our biases regarding trans furries and Antifa types carving gay little phrases into bullet casings. At the end of the day, a .30-06 would have obliterated Charlie’s neck and head. What we got was some tall tale about Charlie basically having a superhuman spinal column that stopped a bullet that ought to have traveled through him and kept going. They called it a miracle, which used our faith in God against us. That’s pretty evil, if you ask me. So we’re left with a lot of questions— if a .30-06 didn’t kill Charlie, then what did? If a .30-06 didn’t kill Charlie, then what was Tyler Robinson’s role, other than being an obvious patsy? Why does there seem to be a lot of foreknowledge about this assassination? Why did Bibi react so quickly to the news of Charlie’s death, and instantly announce that Israel had no involvement? Why are so many people associated with TPUSA making claims about that day that are verifiably false, when all you need to do is examine some footage from that day?
In the end, all we can do is go down the rabbit holes that make sense with our own gut feelings. We may never get a definitive explanation. Just look at 9/11 or the Vegas shooting for similar examples of official stories that defy logic, that have obvious players who stand to gain something from hiding the truth. It’s a dead end every time.
That’s fine, you can believe as you wish. From my perspective, seeing Trump boast certain accomplishments, like solving the failed Biden economy while my lying eyes see prices continue to go up rather than down— makes me question Trump. I still support him over the alternative, because let’s face it— the operations required to win an information war would require giving the enemy some belief that they are winning. At the same time, I’m not fully convinced that the information war isn’t against the American people. I think of things with multiple frameworks rather than just through the Q “white hats / black hats” lens, because it’s entirely possible that the actual truth (the only thing I care about achieving) might not be what we expect. No hate or downvoting— I just feel in my gut that it’s wise to avoid assumptions. And yes, that includes Candace Owens. We get backstabbed almost daily by people we thought we could trust.
I dont disagree. I just get bad vibes from her personally, especially when I look in her eyes as she talks about this stuff. You can see the dollar signs and the ego that is fed by the nonstop attention. She also seems vitriolic on a personal level toward Charlie, so I wouldnt bet against the rumours she was in love with him and got rejected being true either and now she's a woman scorned lashing out at his lover and company.
And whatever the case, she is disintegrating what is left of the base regardless of motives.
Erika said Charlie didn't text anyone saying he thought he was going to die and that she has Charlie's phone so she knows this. This contradicts Frank Turek who says Charlie texted, "I know they want me dead." allegedly days before he died.
Edit to add: People downvoting me, is this not what is being disputed? My neutral comment getting downvoted with no rebuttal means there's a concerted effort to silence facts that reveal inconsistencies on TPUSA's or Erika Kirk's end. This really ramped up right after Candace started talking about a secret prospective donor named Pierre (identified as Pierre DuPont) had promised TPUSA a massive, "life-changing" amount—potentially billions of dollars—tied to an upcoming company IPO.
This deal was highly confidential, known only to a handful of top people.
Charlie Kirk reportedly turned down or blocked the deal.
Immediately after Kirk was shot, a TPUSA executive (named as COO Justin Streiff in some accounts) allegedly called this donor, implying the deal could now proceed without Kirk as an obstacle.
First, really, is it really certain that Kirk really had only one cellphone and cellphone plan?
And that if there is only one cellphone and she got that cellphone, would he for sure talked about that kind of things to his wife - maybe he wanted to protect her, and not make her worry too much, and deleted that type of texted discussions from his phone right after the discussion so even if there was only one cellphone and the wife has it not all of the texts would be there?
And then there simply might be some bad blood between the two women that is mostly from other reasons, and now the wife is pissed at Candace for what she is talking about, so she is trying to make Candace to sound bad, and that makes her seem somewhat insincere because she IS acting, a bit, but it could be just from those normal human emotions, maybe something on the level that they met in some function or another and didn't like each other. Humans are humans, and two attractive looking women... maybe the wife thought that Candace tried to flirt with her husband, and maybe she thought that her husband responded, and has been seeing Candace in bad light ever since.
It could be anything. There doesn't seem to be enough to actually attack the wife, not just based on the rumors circulating now. Maybe enough to keep an eye on her, but not enough to assume anything as likely, much less true, yet.
As for the wife and there being something "off" with her... she is a damn beauty pageant product, somebody who had spend a lot of her earlier years learning to act in certain ways in order to succeed in those things. She is presumably still doing that in public. Might be a pretty different person in private.
So, right now, to me it looks like there isn't any actual concrete sauce about anything, not yet. Markers that it would perhaps be a good idea to keep an eye on her and keep digging, but everything I have seen, so far, looks like it could also have more or less innocent explanations.
Yeah, there are so many PSY ops going on. I don't see it. There are some weird things with TPUSA but Im not seeing it with Erica. There is so much going on to split up MAGA. The target is the midterms
Fix our fake ass elections, then we’ll talk midterms. Until then, we have to assume all the rigging apparatuses are still at least somewhat in place. Trump winning 2024 didn’t suddenly mean everything is on the up and up when it comes to voting.
Yes. So many haters and shills have been on force on here. Im personally not interested in anything until we get the truth about ck. POTUS knows. Kash knows.
Now that it is a known fact that Egyptian plane was shadowing Erica. Why no one asks her about it. She doesn't seem to be bothered by a foreign registered plane following her.
That tells me she knew. It is an asset at her disposal when the need arose. Her personal bugout plane. Who the he'll does she work for?
I do not doubt that Charlie Kirk knew that it was likely that he was a target of people who hated his message and his ministry. I have heard he lived with that. Candace needs to be careful about destroying a ministry which was very effectively being used for good. She is vicious. She will live with the consequences of her power mission.
Not if he had an iphone afaik, they have been blasting apple for quite some time. And if you are trying to sell me on him not having secured phone, then yeah, no buy...
She could have known his code ofc, but the messages did get received by someone. I do not think they would be lying though. Too easy for them to prove..
Guess I'm not based enough or something. Numb nuts is in court telling his attorneys he killed Charlie. The big gotcha here is she said he wasn't texting about being killed? He talked about that quite a bit and predicted it years ago that he would die like Moses (not see the promised land).
Did she lie? Probably. She's trying to raise her kids, run the company, and keep Charlie's legacy intact. Whack ass Owens is bringing all kinds of negative and distracting energy to the situation. This is dividing the right when we need to be smashing the commies. They're coming for Trump at the midterms and we're all fighting about lapel guns and flight logs...
Damn. Scroll through all of the comments and get to the bottom and that's where all the based comments are. Tells you exactly what you need to know. "90% anons fall for it".
Yep.
Anons seem to not realize that the people against Trump, against us, are far, far, far more experienced in psyops than we EVER will be. They are demonic experts. Experts.
Being played like a fiddle. Meanwhile, DJT is still up against a behemoth of an infection inside ALL institutions in the USA, not simply government.
Lol, this started out as a comment about something totally unrelated, aka that the guy in the video offers NO actual proof. It's all just second hand hearsay. His argument isn't exactly robust, imo. Not that I care, but anyway...
Don't you people get it yet? We are being played this is a "CIA" PSYOP, They are playing MAGA against each other. Just stop it already. They know that half of MAGA are pro Israel and half are not. In comes Candace an at best supermarket tabloid paper, Israel, Israel............. Then it's Trump's fault, Erica is having JD'S baby and on and on. just like Kamala's life history, and Macron's wife is a man, and he is married to his Dad WTF. Come on is this going to be the way we go down as a country. United We Stand DEVIDED WE FALL and these influencers are doing a damn good job at dividing us and why the F this is stickied? This coming year is going to be one hell of a ride we have to stay the course and stop listening to these damn influencers who by the way are making over 1 million dollars a month. These people are far more dangerous than CNN, and MSNBC. I have been pretty quiet for years just lurking I have been here since the beginning VOAT, then GAW. But if we keep going the way we are, we will loose our country. I love this platform and the people of GAW but we need to pull in the reigns and save this country.
OK, but we need to consider theories to fit the facts. OP claims that she's lying about the messages, or Candace is. Which one is lying? Could the LEOs have given the phone back after copying the content? Could someone have deleted the messages?
As usual, more questions arise. And that's how it should be. But, that's the nature of investigations. Hypotherical theories can stand until they are disproven. Don't rush the process. At least admit that there are some very fishy things gwan.
I'm really loathe to comment on this post, because as someone noted "none of this makes sense".
Which I agree with, unless you step back, do not buy into ANY of the narratives, and observe from a place of disengagement. Then, it makes a LOT of sense.
So much about the Kirk murder doesn't make sense. So much about Owens and what she does doesn't make sense. Lot's of what inlfuuencers does not make sense. The in-fighting - choose your side: suffering widow and defense of righteousness vs trying to find and <ahem> shouting out "the truth" - doesn't make sense.
All of it doesn't make sense. Unless you step back from it, and detach.
Then it makes perfect sense. This is prime evil psyopery.
To illustrate this point, I'll draw from fiction, as fiction often tells much more truth than the murky reality.
Lord of the Rings. Council of Elrond (ala Peter jackson). All the opponents of Evil are induced into arguing. Conflict, Distrust. Accusation. Meanwhile, you hear the voice of Sauron in the background.
This is how evil works. It thrives on conflict, on distrust, on accusation. And, for that matter, self-conviction that "I am right" or even "he/she is right".
What evil cannot overcome is humility. Is trust (in higher things). Is affirmation, not accusation.
Zoom out to the bigger picture. The rather insane conflict and supreme chaos currently being raised in the very deep midst of the MAGAsphere, is actually like a big clattering noise and argument on one corner of a football field. So many people on the field are flocking to it, on one side or the other.
Meanwhile, the field is being abandoned. It is distraction at its supreme best.
If you or I knew the truth about the Kirk murder, would this .... drain the swamp? Clear out the corruption in the judiciary? Drain congress of RINOS and Democrat frauds? Advance the Trump Agenda, to secure America's future in the face of a world more rapidly changing than at ANY time in recorded human history?
To be frank, I really do not care. I don't care if Erica is lying or if Erica is part of some plot. I don't care if Owens is an egocentric influuencer or the next bastion of truth.
There are bigger fish to fry.
Look at the comment section in this post. All of the downvotes vs upvotes. Is there any greater illustration of the IMPACT that this issue is having on (not only GAW) but the wider MAGA community? The 'truth' sphere?
If you want to dig on the Kirk situation, I mean, if that's your jam, then go ahead. But check yourself. Check what your motives are. Check to what the purpose, or objective is here. Are you convinced that that investigation is going to propel MAGA forward, reinforce Donald Trump's agenda? If so, by how much?
Many of us have our favorite topics and rabbit holes that we feel drawn to dig on. For me, its disinformation operations and distraction (misdirection) psyops. So, if you feel compelled to dig and unravel 'the truth' about the Kirk thing, TPUSA, Erica, Owens, and all the other influencers who are intently (re) focused (and refocusing their audiences) on this issue, maybe that's worthwhile.
But if you step back, if you decide NOT to choose a side, not to get absorbed into it, I think you'll find that there are far more important matters to focus on.
I'm not saying forget 'the truth', but rather, that if Donald Trump and MAGA are unable to execute their agenda, for America, then the truth of everything will disappear into the void, never to be recovered.
So, consider whether its worth attaching intensely and emotionally to individuals like Erica or Candace or anyone else, and keep your eye on the goal. Your eye on the mission.
Me? Yes, for sure. A LOT of this does not make sense. But what DOES make sense to me is trusting in Donald Trump (his earned it imo), and trying to figure out what HE needs for me and every other citizen to do, and what 'the People' have to do in order to become not only worthy but capable of once again taking the reigns of power, which is the necessary end goal.
Step back. Gage the situation in the context of a larger, much larger perspective.
Sometimes the only winning move is to not play the game. To me, this whole Kirk situation feels a heck of a lot like a game. And I'm not playing. I'm choosing not to play.
(And I sure as heck do not want any influencer coaching me, but that's just me)
She is on TV. We never even knew her pretty his death and now she is all over. That’s not mourning to me.
She doesn’t seem humble. Which Charlie was. So, right away our eyes and ears know something is off. Is this the person you thought Charlie would marry?
there are evil forces at play here. what if Erika Kirk is innocent? everything feels like deception and that's the devil playing. a few lies can change everything. God help our country
Once someone crosses that "bridge," there is no going back. Im noy suptised sge is coming off this way when so much is focused on her righy now. If this is an op its absolutely wild. Operatio or she was in on it.
Charlie is currently recovering from facial reconstruction surgery and will soon be back as a new Fox News personality for people to worship to no end. The shit was faked by mossad. The whole fucking thing. Trump knew about it but he let them do it. They used our love of God and being good against us. Not good. Yes, Charlie did that to you with Mossad. Still love him?
Charlie doesn't need surgery. I'm quite convinced that the shooting was faked just as Trump's ear shooting was faked. I don't know why these events were staged but I guess it was to fool the deep state into doing something they'd later regret.
Why would Charlie be with a person who seems so unlikable? Everything about her screams, fake. Is it possible she's just comes off as the most disingenuous person your ever saw, again then, Charlie would not have someone like this in his life. It just doesn't add up.
That has been my thought all along. I have always felt something was off with her. I can’t pinpoint it. My boyfriend thinks she “looks” fake but I told him it’s not anything visual for me. It’s deeper. Behind her eyes, her mannerisms… her soul. It just never settled well with me. Charlie must have been blinded by love. No matter how intelligent someone is, it can be hard to be objective with one’s the heart desires.
I think there’s a level of malevolent evil that most of us (me included) have a hard time believing. I think you’re likely correct about Erika. If that’s true it would be so cold, calculated, intimate, to be incomprehensible to normal people.
I also think too many over analyze Charlie. I think he was an honest, sincere open book. Dark forces I believe saw his potential enormous impact on their coveted young minds and couldn’t take any chances. Enter Erika Kirk on a mission to blind Charlie by “love”. Once he started noticing too much and couldn’t be bought his fate was sealed.
There's an above zero chance Erika is like the Sharon Stone character from Total Recall.
Placed into the role of marriage as a handler for Quaid, who is none the wiser until she's trying to kill him.
watch the wives applies to anyone I guess...
Charlie and Erika met in Israel. Just another cohencidence
That catholic 666 go brrt
bunch of goobers looking for Jews when the 6 is staring them in the face from Rome the whole time.
Takes two to tango.
“You wouldn’t kill me. Would you sweetheart?”
John MacAfee's wife said that when she prepared dinner for him, he would first feed 2 servings to her beloved dog & see how she reacted to that because she said that John knew how much she loved that dog & would not want anything bad to happen to it!
Consida dat a divouse
thanks for the spoiler
Maybe her and charlie and all of this is an OP.
Definitely not. Before he was killed Charlie was criticizing Israel and pushing the Epstein situation.
Yeah it has to be. Very bizarre all around. Really don't understand the purpose though.
Maybe we're not in Kanas anymore Todo. 😮🤪
His handler? He may not have known it, but she wa shus handler?
What do you mean.
Tall, slim/athletic, rich as fuck... Have you seen how fancy his house is in Arizona?
Gold diggers gunna dig
He seemed like a genuinely good guy, but his eyes were too close together unfortunately.
Yeah, I hate to admit it, but Charlie would never have been president because he was not attractive. Even Joe Biden looked good as a young lad.
Erika is not that hot. She has a fudge face
They're called handlers.
Has anyone in here ever seen their spouse shot and killed right in front of you? Blood all over the place. The motions. The sounds?????? I seriously doubt it. We have zero idea what she’s going through. And now the world won’t shut up! Which is Satan. She wants TPUSA to continue. She wants to move on. She wants to protect her family. She wants peace. And no one here, yet, has mentioned her relationship with Jesus. She’s in a spiritual battle right now. If she’s a woman of Christ, which I feel she is, honestly pray for her, rather than cast stones. Is she gonna deal with all this well? Would you? Who would? Who doesn’t make mistakes. Who doesn’t trip and fall. I say people need to back off. And for her, to get out of the cameras and just focus on Jesus and your family. I’d say walk away from TPUSA for now. If it can’t sustain itself, then so be it. If there aren’t others to step up, then so be it. She needs to rest, be silent, focus on our Lord and let Jesus guide her way for now. She can’t possibly hold all this up. Lay these problems at the feet of the Lord. And take your rest. The Holy Spirit will tell you when to move.
If she needs to rest, then why is she making the rounds of the media? If this narrative didn't have so many HOLES in it, no one would be questioning it. We are anons. This is what we do. Put your emotions aside and analyze the data. None of this makes any sense.
She may be contractually obligated to do so
I feel she’s trying to hold everything together. She’ll probably fail at that. She isn’t Charlie. I’d hate to be in her position. It’s one many don’t know. She’s the most popular widow in the world. The world saw her husband killed. Her kids will see their dad assassinated for the rest of their lives. Just those issues alone would be difficult. Now add everything else. She’s breaking. And needs help imo.
I'd say that Erika is the most divisive widow in the world.
And, the world is still confused over what they actually witnessed that day.
We need answers. Real, truthful answers.
Personally I’d sum that up to a stage of grief. The world is loud. Hard to shut it out when it’s in every direction. She’s upset. She lost something and probably doesn’t believe what she hears and is being told. Partly at least. I get that. I’m sure she wants answers, but I don’t. I don’t look to this world for answers anymore. I look to my savior Jesus. He holds all the answers. The world is full of lies. Orchestrated by the prince of lies. I truly hope she is surrounded by those who were not like Job’s “friends”, but those who remain faithful in the Lord. And can actually help her.
IMHO
The Egyptian plane that was following her around was her escape flight if needed. She is a foreign agent. Not of Egypt but some other country. But who I wonder? I shall ponder this some more.
Just playing devil's advocate: what if Erika and Charlie actually loved each other, and she cared deeply about the important work they did. She would feel obligated to carry it on even if everything inside her just wanted to disappear and forget all the pain. According to people at TPUSA it had been discussed that she would run things if something ever happened to Charlie.
As for Erika's mannerisms / behavior that people are criticizing, I honestly think we have gotten so used to seeing polished TV personalities that we forget how imperfect real humans are, especially when emotions are high.
I totally agree not everything adds up, it just isn't as clear to me which way the truth lies.
If she needs to rest; why is the now the CEO of a multimillion dollar org? Plenty of ways to carry on the legacy without this particular role.
How can anyone answer that, other than her and her team. They did the obvious. Doesn’t mean it’s right. She isn’t Charlie. IMO she should pass it down to someone on the team or whatever. Where’s the right hand man? If TP can’t sustain, then so be it. She’s doing it because that is what was expected of her. And from what Ive learned, doing others expectations of my own life leaves me the only one out in the cold. She should step away, if possible. My opinion.
Yeah no. It doesn’t make sense. The more she is on Tav the worse it gets. Go home, our, be with the kids. She is no Charlie. She would never be able to handle the questions from the woke left. Which is odd…. Why was he with someone so brittle and unlikable?
Exactly my point. She isn’t Charlie. She lacks the abilities to handle all this. As most wouldn’t be able to either. He was unique. She’s breaking under the weight imo. I feel for her. And am surely not gonna throw stones at her. I don’t think she’s unlikable. Before all this she seemed very pleasant. I feel it’s wrong to judge someone, especially immediately after the car crash. Charlie loved her, and that’s good enough for me.
Car crash?
Metaphor
Isn't that sort of, giving up? Letting evil win? Especially if she promised Charlie to carry the torch if he ever fell.
Agreed. Her eyes say it all.
Wild, that's what I see in Candace.
Is one of us wrong? Or are we both being played?
Honestly who knows anymore.
Just for clarification, Erika said publicly on camera that she has not watched the video of Charlie getting shot and that she never will. So if everything you’re saying is based on that non-happening, then it isn’t exactly valid.
I hope she never does. And everything isn’t based on that. That’s silly. Has Charlie came home yet? As she heard him say “I love you”? Does he answer his children when they say “where’s daddy”? Clearly people have zero clue, that everyone doesn’t handle the death of the next closest person to you like a wartime veteran. Some need help. And instead, they are looking for their weaknesses. How “worldly” of them.
Keep going Candace, and Godspeed.
I don't trust candy. Used to listen to her but she does lots of click bait and attention grabbing shit even if it's not legit...
I'll wait and see how this pans out
Ive watched candace for a long time. She is quite talented and quick tongued. But I have always felt there was something disingenuous about here going way back.
Kanye even eluded to that. He felt like he was being used by her. He stayed friendly but distance himself from her.
She is so smug and talks with such glee about destroying TPUSA. Clear signs of narcissism and ego. I doubt she ever really left the left and was an undercover sleeper to destroy the right when the time was right. And here we are. :/
There are a lot of folks on the right who are disappointed with Trump v2.0 so far. Candace Owens didn’t do that. We have done a lot of holding the line over the years, and have reached a point where some of us are beginning to question whether Trump still has the people’s best interests in mind. He seems to be aligned with some shady characters, and it could possibly be under a threat related to the bullet that grazed his ear. Or this could all be part of the complex narrative that has to play out in order to maintain the promise of “Israel for last.” In the long run, we are blind to the chess board—instead of black and white chess pieces, there are shades of gray.
It’s possible that you’re right about Candace’s motives, but from what I can tell, she’s basically throwing political alignments out the window and trying to get to the bottom of an official story that makes no sense, that appeals to our biases regarding trans furries and Antifa types carving gay little phrases into bullet casings. At the end of the day, a .30-06 would have obliterated Charlie’s neck and head. What we got was some tall tale about Charlie basically having a superhuman spinal column that stopped a bullet that ought to have traveled through him and kept going. They called it a miracle, which used our faith in God against us. That’s pretty evil, if you ask me. So we’re left with a lot of questions— if a .30-06 didn’t kill Charlie, then what did? If a .30-06 didn’t kill Charlie, then what was Tyler Robinson’s role, other than being an obvious patsy? Why does there seem to be a lot of foreknowledge about this assassination? Why did Bibi react so quickly to the news of Charlie’s death, and instantly announce that Israel had no involvement? Why are so many people associated with TPUSA making claims about that day that are verifiably false, when all you need to do is examine some footage from that day?
In the end, all we can do is go down the rabbit holes that make sense with our own gut feelings. We may never get a definitive explanation. Just look at 9/11 or the Vegas shooting for similar examples of official stories that defy logic, that have obvious players who stand to gain something from hiding the truth. It’s a dead end every time.
Upvoted brother. Great comment.
I don't buy this at all. Regular folks are just glad Obiden is gone. Awake patriots are mostly ignoring the efforts at sowing division.
That’s fine, you can believe as you wish. From my perspective, seeing Trump boast certain accomplishments, like solving the failed Biden economy while my lying eyes see prices continue to go up rather than down— makes me question Trump. I still support him over the alternative, because let’s face it— the operations required to win an information war would require giving the enemy some belief that they are winning. At the same time, I’m not fully convinced that the information war isn’t against the American people. I think of things with multiple frameworks rather than just through the Q “white hats / black hats” lens, because it’s entirely possible that the actual truth (the only thing I care about achieving) might not be what we expect. No hate or downvoting— I just feel in my gut that it’s wise to avoid assumptions. And yes, that includes Candace Owens. We get backstabbed almost daily by people we thought we could trust.
I dont disagree. I just get bad vibes from her personally, especially when I look in her eyes as she talks about this stuff. You can see the dollar signs and the ego that is fed by the nonstop attention. She also seems vitriolic on a personal level toward Charlie, so I wouldnt bet against the rumours she was in love with him and got rejected being true either and now she's a woman scorned lashing out at his lover and company.
And whatever the case, she is disintegrating what is left of the base regardless of motives.
You don’t need to listen to Candace to think this whole thing is a crock of shit.
What is "Erika's cell phone lie"?
Tell it to me like someone who hasn't paid her or Candace any attention.
Erika said Charlie didn't text anyone saying he thought he was going to die and that she has Charlie's phone so she knows this. This contradicts Frank Turek who says Charlie texted, "I know they want me dead." allegedly days before he died.
Edit to add: People downvoting me, is this not what is being disputed? My neutral comment getting downvoted with no rebuttal means there's a concerted effort to silence facts that reveal inconsistencies on TPUSA's or Erika Kirk's end. This really ramped up right after Candace started talking about a secret prospective donor named Pierre (identified as Pierre DuPont) had promised TPUSA a massive, "life-changing" amount—potentially billions of dollars—tied to an upcoming company IPO. This deal was highly confidential, known only to a handful of top people. Charlie Kirk reportedly turned down or blocked the deal. Immediately after Kirk was shot, a TPUSA executive (named as COO Justin Streiff in some accounts) allegedly called this donor, implying the deal could now proceed without Kirk as an obstacle.
Thanks for the answer and u/Island_Photo thanks for the question.
OK thanks..
Interesting...
Maybe she is trying to get the "cut off "donor back
Or maybe somebody spoofed Charlie's phone in a text to Turek?
Both are possibilities..
I suspect the downvotes are from people who don't feel that constitutes a lie on Erika's behalf.
First, really, is it really certain that Kirk really had only one cellphone and cellphone plan?
And that if there is only one cellphone and she got that cellphone, would he for sure talked about that kind of things to his wife - maybe he wanted to protect her, and not make her worry too much, and deleted that type of texted discussions from his phone right after the discussion so even if there was only one cellphone and the wife has it not all of the texts would be there?
And then there simply might be some bad blood between the two women that is mostly from other reasons, and now the wife is pissed at Candace for what she is talking about, so she is trying to make Candace to sound bad, and that makes her seem somewhat insincere because she IS acting, a bit, but it could be just from those normal human emotions, maybe something on the level that they met in some function or another and didn't like each other. Humans are humans, and two attractive looking women... maybe the wife thought that Candace tried to flirt with her husband, and maybe she thought that her husband responded, and has been seeing Candace in bad light ever since.
It could be anything. There doesn't seem to be enough to actually attack the wife, not just based on the rumors circulating now. Maybe enough to keep an eye on her, but not enough to assume anything as likely, much less true, yet.
As for the wife and there being something "off" with her... she is a damn beauty pageant product, somebody who had spend a lot of her earlier years learning to act in certain ways in order to succeed in those things. She is presumably still doing that in public. Might be a pretty different person in private.
So, right now, to me it looks like there isn't any actual concrete sauce about anything, not yet. Markers that it would perhaps be a good idea to keep an eye on her and keep digging, but everything I have seen, so far, looks like it could also have more or less innocent explanations.
Maybe not go for a full on witch hunt quite yet?
Yeah, there are so many PSY ops going on. I don't see it. There are some weird things with TPUSA but Im not seeing it with Erica. There is so much going on to split up MAGA. The target is the midterms
Fix our fake ass elections, then we’ll talk midterms. Until then, we have to assume all the rigging apparatuses are still at least somewhat in place. Trump winning 2024 didn’t suddenly mean everything is on the up and up when it comes to voting.
indeed. Speculative, but it is an explanation.
Thank you
Vindication of Candace Owens causes mass humility on GAW
We actually just love the truth
That was the most intellectually dishonest reply I hope to see on here all day.
You completely misrepresented what they said.
Do better.
If you're not smart enough to figure that out yourself then you're not intellectually honest enough to admit when someone points it out
I'm gonna save both of us the time and say no.
You're welcome.
I literally never said or implied that.
Absolutely pathetic to make up easy claims to defeat instead of dealing with real ones in front of you.
Also ineffective, as anyone can just read the actual thread to see what was said.
Man, they are not sending their best
Please share the damning evidence of George Farmer; still waiting.
They’re all shills trying to divide MAGA.
Yes. So many haters and shills have been on force on here. Im personally not interested in anything until we get the truth about ck. POTUS knows. Kash knows.
Turning Point USA vs Candice Owens is a huge psyop.
https://rumble.com/v72pi9a-q-after-hours-ep.-8.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_pl%2Csrc_v1_pl&playlist_id=TPRTeCwEPwQ
watch for like 3 mins from 1:21:35
Now that it is a known fact that Egyptian plane was shadowing Erica. Why no one asks her about it. She doesn't seem to be bothered by a foreign registered plane following her.
That tells me she knew. It is an asset at her disposal when the need arose. Her personal bugout plane. Who the he'll does she work for?
I do not doubt that Charlie Kirk knew that it was likely that he was a target of people who hated his message and his ministry. I have heard he lived with that. Candace needs to be careful about destroying a ministry which was very effectively being used for good. She is vicious. She will live with the consequences of her power mission.
Correct. We need to be directing the kids influenced by Charlie to pivot like water and form newer, stronger groups if/when TPUSA implodes.
Then do it. Start your own organization.
You realize that is exactly what people who hated Charlie Kirk would say?
For you Candace lovers, you do understand that LEO can DL the phone contents and then give it back to Erika right?
Not if he had an iphone afaik, they have been blasting apple for quite some time. And if you are trying to sell me on him not having secured phone, then yeah, no buy...
She could have known his code ofc, but the messages did get received by someone. I do not think they would be lying though. Too easy for them to prove..
Could be a psyop within a psyop. I remember Trump telling us one time that he was going to have to say some things he didn’t want to say.
The mind games/wars continue. A whole lot of dots to connect. Probably not the time to draw significant conclusions.
Agreed
Guess I'm not based enough or something. Numb nuts is in court telling his attorneys he killed Charlie. The big gotcha here is she said he wasn't texting about being killed? He talked about that quite a bit and predicted it years ago that he would die like Moses (not see the promised land).
Did she lie? Probably. She's trying to raise her kids, run the company, and keep Charlie's legacy intact. Whack ass Owens is bringing all kinds of negative and distracting energy to the situation. This is dividing the right when we need to be smashing the commies. They're coming for Trump at the midterms and we're all fighting about lapel guns and flight logs...
Crazy we're handing the left this win.
Reminder: the elections are still fake
ping pong goes the controlled dialectic
90% anons fall for it
10% look in disgust at the whole thing
pick a side and you lose.
both choices are wrong
This is the definitive answer.
Damn. Scroll through all of the comments and get to the bottom and that's where all the based comments are. Tells you exactly what you need to know. "90% anons fall for it".
Yep.
Anons seem to not realize that the people against Trump, against us, are far, far, far more experienced in psyops than we EVER will be. They are demonic experts. Experts.
Being played like a fiddle. Meanwhile, DJT is still up against a behemoth of an infection inside ALL institutions in the USA, not simply government.
People need to wake up soon.
On that note:
https://greatawakening.win/p/1ARdHtgyvs/
Lol, this started out as a comment about something totally unrelated, aka that the guy in the video offers NO actual proof. It's all just second hand hearsay. His argument isn't exactly robust, imo. Not that I care, but anyway...
I mean, call a spade a spade....
I said a whole lot in that comment.
How tall are you, private?
THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlOFcktnfO4
Thank you!
Don't you people get it yet? We are being played this is a "CIA" PSYOP, They are playing MAGA against each other. Just stop it already. They know that half of MAGA are pro Israel and half are not. In comes Candace an at best supermarket tabloid paper, Israel, Israel............. Then it's Trump's fault, Erica is having JD'S baby and on and on. just like Kamala's life history, and Macron's wife is a man, and he is married to his Dad WTF. Come on is this going to be the way we go down as a country. United We Stand DEVIDED WE FALL and these influencers are doing a damn good job at dividing us and why the F this is stickied? This coming year is going to be one hell of a ride we have to stay the course and stop listening to these damn influencers who by the way are making over 1 million dollars a month. These people are far more dangerous than CNN, and MSNBC. I have been pretty quiet for years just lurking I have been here since the beginning VOAT, then GAW. But if we keep going the way we are, we will loose our country. I love this platform and the people of GAW but we need to pull in the reigns and save this country.
This is absolutely disgusting.
He's also implying J.D Vance had something to do with it I hate these podcasters.
OK, but we need to consider theories to fit the facts. OP claims that she's lying about the messages, or Candace is. Which one is lying? Could the LEOs have given the phone back after copying the content? Could someone have deleted the messages?
As usual, more questions arise. And that's how it should be. But, that's the nature of investigations. Hypotherical theories can stand until they are disproven. Don't rush the process. At least admit that there are some very fishy things gwan.
You don't have the information they do.
No one has any idea what is involved behind the scenes.
You can't point fingers without evidence only theories.
What fucks me up though is Kash talking about valhalla and valhalla being put on the screen at the house of the shooter or some shit.
That stinker messed up things very much for me. My spidey senses went off the charts.
You don't have the information they do.
No one has any idea what is involved behind the scenes.
For you to point fingers and blame with no facts is laughable.
He sure is one hell of a stinker, alright.
Blame Kash then and stop crying. It’s all fucked up cause nobody believes what Kash says about anything.
Not crying or blaming.
You don't have the information they do.
No one has any idea what is involved behind the scenes.
For you to point fingers and blame with no facts is laughable.
lol.
(Sorry, cannot manage a kek at this point.)
I'm really loathe to comment on this post, because as someone noted "none of this makes sense".
Which I agree with, unless you step back, do not buy into ANY of the narratives, and observe from a place of disengagement. Then, it makes a LOT of sense.
So much about the Kirk murder doesn't make sense. So much about Owens and what she does doesn't make sense. Lot's of what inlfuuencers does not make sense. The in-fighting - choose your side: suffering widow and defense of righteousness vs trying to find and <ahem> shouting out "the truth" - doesn't make sense.
All of it doesn't make sense. Unless you step back from it, and detach.
Then it makes perfect sense. This is prime evil psyopery.
To illustrate this point, I'll draw from fiction, as fiction often tells much more truth than the murky reality.
Lord of the Rings. Council of Elrond (ala Peter jackson). All the opponents of Evil are induced into arguing. Conflict, Distrust. Accusation. Meanwhile, you hear the voice of Sauron in the background.
This is how evil works. It thrives on conflict, on distrust, on accusation. And, for that matter, self-conviction that "I am right" or even "he/she is right".
What evil cannot overcome is humility. Is trust (in higher things). Is affirmation, not accusation.
Zoom out to the bigger picture. The rather insane conflict and supreme chaos currently being raised in the very deep midst of the MAGAsphere, is actually like a big clattering noise and argument on one corner of a football field. So many people on the field are flocking to it, on one side or the other.
Meanwhile, the field is being abandoned. It is distraction at its supreme best.
If you or I knew the truth about the Kirk murder, would this .... drain the swamp? Clear out the corruption in the judiciary? Drain congress of RINOS and Democrat frauds? Advance the Trump Agenda, to secure America's future in the face of a world more rapidly changing than at ANY time in recorded human history?
To be frank, I really do not care. I don't care if Erica is lying or if Erica is part of some plot. I don't care if Owens is an egocentric influuencer or the next bastion of truth.
There are bigger fish to fry.
Look at the comment section in this post. All of the downvotes vs upvotes. Is there any greater illustration of the IMPACT that this issue is having on (not only GAW) but the wider MAGA community? The 'truth' sphere?
If you want to dig on the Kirk situation, I mean, if that's your jam, then go ahead. But check yourself. Check what your motives are. Check to what the purpose, or objective is here. Are you convinced that that investigation is going to propel MAGA forward, reinforce Donald Trump's agenda? If so, by how much?
Many of us have our favorite topics and rabbit holes that we feel drawn to dig on. For me, its disinformation operations and distraction (misdirection) psyops. So, if you feel compelled to dig and unravel 'the truth' about the Kirk thing, TPUSA, Erica, Owens, and all the other influencers who are intently (re) focused (and refocusing their audiences) on this issue, maybe that's worthwhile.
But if you step back, if you decide NOT to choose a side, not to get absorbed into it, I think you'll find that there are far more important matters to focus on.
I'm not saying forget 'the truth', but rather, that if Donald Trump and MAGA are unable to execute their agenda, for America, then the truth of everything will disappear into the void, never to be recovered.
So, consider whether its worth attaching intensely and emotionally to individuals like Erica or Candace or anyone else, and keep your eye on the goal. Your eye on the mission.
Me? Yes, for sure. A LOT of this does not make sense. But what DOES make sense to me is trusting in Donald Trump (his earned it imo), and trying to figure out what HE needs for me and every other citizen to do, and what 'the People' have to do in order to become not only worthy but capable of once again taking the reigns of power, which is the necessary end goal.
Step back. Gage the situation in the context of a larger, much larger perspective.
Sometimes the only winning move is to not play the game. To me, this whole Kirk situation feels a heck of a lot like a game. And I'm not playing. I'm choosing not to play.
(And I sure as heck do not want any influencer coaching me, but that's just me)
top marks for effort
What do you mean by "pretty his death"?
Sandy hoax "parents."
there are evil forces at play here. what if Erika Kirk is innocent? everything feels like deception and that's the devil playing. a few lies can change everything. God help our country
the pendulum swing of false idols.
first we like them
then we hate them
then we like them again
too many emotions in this sub.
Once someone crosses that "bridge," there is no going back. Im noy suptised sge is coming off this way when so much is focused on her righy now. If this is an op its absolutely wild. Operatio or she was in on it.
If the net b result is to hurt Trump, I question it.
I don’t know about any of this, but I do know that was NOT a shot from a .30-06 caliber rifle.
When Tim pool attacked, I knew she was over at target
Charlie is currently recovering from facial reconstruction surgery and will soon be back as a new Fox News personality for people to worship to no end. The shit was faked by mossad. The whole fucking thing. Trump knew about it but he let them do it. They used our love of God and being good against us. Not good. Yes, Charlie did that to you with Mossad. Still love him?
What are you smoking?
updooted for suitable speculation, considering the current info-vacuum.
Charlie doesn't need surgery. I'm quite convinced that the shooting was faked just as Trump's ear shooting was faked. I don't know why these events were staged but I guess it was to fool the deep state into doing something they'd later regret.
Be nice to Erika, everyone grifts differently.