If Arizona pulls back it's electoral votes... and Georgia and Pennsylvania do the same because of election fraud, pending NEW elections... then Biden doesn't have 270 electoral votes.
That would mean his presidency is put on hold until after those elections. That also means every cabinet position Biden filled, everyone he appointed to government positions are also put on hold. There is no Secretary of State, no Attorney General, etc... . All of those positions are put on hold pending the outcome, because Biden is not yet president... and had no right to appoint them.
Also, it would mean the Democrats do NOT have control in the House or Senate until those contested elections are resolved. The House and Senate can't vote on anything until control of both chambers in verified... and until we know which law makers were actually elected. Basically, nobody in Washington DC is in power until the elections are finalized.
What is the chain of command in this case?
NO President
NO Vice President
NO known Speaker of the House
NO known President Pro Temp of the Senate
NO Secretary of State
NO Secretary of Treasury
etc... .
None of the cabinet positions are filled until the election is finalized.
Do they still make people wear masks everywhere, like hotels & stores? In Alabama there’s no mask mandate anymore, the south don’t wear masks anywhere except some doctors offices (which I will not go to, I find other doc offices that doesn’t make you wear them). My husband had to go to Birmingham for training for work and he said they made them still wear masks everywhere even in hotels. I said will I won’t be traveling until this shit is normal again. I refuse to wear one even to see a specialist doctor for my Ménière’s.
How about Alabama, South Alabama to be precise, kek. Like to get back at Gov. Ivey for not letting Trump hold his July 3rd rally at the battleship. That Rino needs to go, she is also letting them do the door to door vaxx search. People are not happy with her is an understatement, except for the few dumbass liberals who support her. They say she switched parties from Dem to Rebuplican before she ran for Gov.
What’s a KI poll? We usually don’t answer the phone to unknown callers, let the message machine take it, and if it’s like a doc office or something they leave a message where as others hang up and don’t leave a message. I do the same with my cell phone, let it go to message, i usually block those calls that I don’t know. That’s one reason we kept a house phone was so when you have to leave a phone number for something I use that number. I hardly give out my cell number, but somehow telemarketers still get it.
KI= Kay Ivey. Someone called and every survey question was like "Did you know Kay Ivey did this? Would you be more willing to vote for her knowing this?" etc and I was like NO. Nothing you can say will make us vote for her. She has to GO." lol. Poor guy. I only picked up bcz I don't know my own kids cells yet. :p
Well heck maybe I should answer the phone more so I can tell them my views also, lol. What do you think of Ziegler for Gov? He helped with the no toll bridge in Mobile. Now I see they are trying to bring it up again, and Ziegler let’s us know and is against it and all those prisons Ivey is trying to build on leased lands. He said he could make improvements on ones still in use and only having one big prison built on already county/state owned land.
Drive by with a megaphone 📣 yelling "COPE!!!! COPE!!!" Across all major cities. God knows how many people I hadn't talked to in years reach out to me saying that after not being political on social media since 2016.
I could be wrong; however, President Trump never conceded, and he could sue to overturn the Arizona Certification. The Constitutional remedy is that in the event of a Presidential election without all States certified properly. Then, it goes to Congress, where Each State gets a Vote based on the state's Senate Majority.
So Illinois, which has a Democrat State Senate Majority, would get 1 vote for Biden.
Arizona, which has a Republican Senate, would get 1 vote for President Trump.
This would go on until President Trump was elected by Congress since there are way more Republican State Senate Majorities than Democrats.
Then-President Trump gets to cut these traitors and RINOs to the Mudder freak in Bone.
The fact that Trump never conceded is huge and confirms that he’s still commander in chief through everything that has happened. After all, how does a new person become president if the current occupant has not conceded?
They did not deliver the results to the president. The law says they must. Never did, he didn't concede, he has the football and the military, the rest is popcorn eating entertainment fun.
You are absolutely correct. The answer is contained in the Constitution (Twelfth Amendment). There is no need to make things more complicated than necessary.
Although the exact issue we are dealing with is not spelled out, the intent is sufficiently clear to allow congress to deal with the exigent circumstances. There is no doubt that the intent is when the electoral college result is not sufficient, Congress decides according to the procedure specified and there is ample precedent for application of Constitutional Intent in the absence of strict guidance. The Supreme Court takes this approach quite often when resolving Constitutional issues.
Well it’s the uncharted territory with The Constitution, we have never had this happen in this country so... if we had a fair honest election in the country please WHO WOULD WIN?
Can you say President Trump! 🇺🇸🗽🇺🇸
Remember folks... that if Arizona holds a NEW election... it will be certified. Voter ID's required, all ballots will have serial #'s, counting will be supervised and watched...
... and Trump can choose any running mate he wants. Mike Pence does NOT need to be on the ticket. :>)
Yep! Everyone should have the ability to survive without leaving their residence for several weeks and also to defend their life. It could get that bad very quickly.
ultimately this is the quickest resolution. Throw your hands up and say "too much effort to untangle the last election, audits are showing fraud took place, lets have a do-over, 1 day only"
There is a company in Maricopa County called Runbeck that printed ballots for Georgia's election. I believe it was Cobb County where I saw boxes of Runbeck printed ballots on pallets. Now, considering they printed them for Georgia, why wouldn't they print them for Maricopa County? I'm not saying they DID, but I sure would look into it.
Wrong conclusion Wendy! No new election necessary. You and your AZ Senate colleagues need to decertify the Biden electors and certify a slate of Trump electors immediately. When someone commits crimes to steal an election they do not get a mulligan!
I voted for Trump already, legally, on November 3, 2020. Since when do we give cheaters another chance? No, we do not reward bad behavior. The truth is President Trump won by a landslide, and he should be back in the White House ASAP. I would like for the senator spot in AZ to be verified too. I do not think Mark Kelly won legally, without cheating.
Remember her name. She will go down in history as one of the many people who saved the United States of America and we can proudly talk about her and others to future generations!
A diamond thief does not get to keep the diamonds when caught. The Arizona electors are Arizonas alone to give and are in essence Arizona's "diamonds". They can do with them as they see fit.
There is not a damn thing the fed can do about it. This is the perogitive of the state legislatures.
The second that ceases to be the case; is the second everything our society was founded upon and eveything that came after it from it no longer matter nor exists.
And to fuck with whatever they say about anything moving forward. Become ungovernable.
To those saying a new election is unnecessary: what about the down-ballot races? Do we just assume every R won? I think a new election will actually be less effort in the long run since the enemy has had months to obfuscate and destroy evidence.
Lance Armstrong was stripped of 7 Tour de France titles when it was discovered he cheated. Those titles went to the other competitors of those events. The events did not have a 'repeat'.
You cheat, you lose.
Precedence set in this event took all of his titles to all of his other races...
I pray we see the same outcome with Biden.
Strip him of ever having held office...
Every bill he ever voted on == null
Every paycheck he ever collected == paid back
His Vice Presidency w/ Obama == null
Obama having ever been elected == null
Every bill Obama signed in == null
I bet with my neighbor 100 dollars, we both wanted trump, but he said biden will win because of cheating. He decided not to take money for "winning". The real question is, will he and I both be right soon? haha
I understand that however once the electors have been granted, does AZ have a system in place to withdraw them? The Constitution doesn’t address that scenario so it must be up to the state legislature’s to plan for that contingency. There is however the SCOTUS ruling that fraud vitiates everything so maybe that’s the solution:
That Supreme Court case doesn't appear to apply to voting. It seems to apply to contacts or land agreements or other official documents or representations in court when dealing with possible fraudulent sources. Such court decisions don't expand into things like voting or confirming electors. This really only applies to its own specific part of court documents and stuff.
An election is a contract between the American people and the elected official. Even Sydney Powell has quoted this case as well as the fact that elections are contracts.
If Arizona pulls back it's electoral votes... and Georgia and Pennsylvania do the same because of election fraud, pending NEW elections... then Biden doesn't have 270 electoral votes.
That would mean his presidency is put on hold until after those elections. That also means every cabinet position Biden filled, everyone he appointed to government positions are also put on hold. There is no Secretary of State, no Attorney General, etc... . All of those positions are put on hold pending the outcome, because Biden is not yet president... and had no right to appoint them.
Also, it would mean the Democrats do NOT have control in the House or Senate until those contested elections are resolved. The House and Senate can't vote on anything until control of both chambers in verified... and until we know which law makers were actually elected. Basically, nobody in Washington DC is in power until the elections are finalized.
What is the chain of command in this case?
NO President
NO Vice President
NO known Speaker of the House
NO known President Pro Temp of the Senate
NO Secretary of State
NO Secretary of Treasury etc... .
None of the cabinet positions are filled until the election is finalized.
Default = Military in control.
I'll bring at least 4 kegs brother. How about somewhere in Texas? It's in the middle of the country so it's easier for most people to get to.
I love road trips!
Do they still make people wear masks everywhere, like hotels & stores? In Alabama there’s no mask mandate anymore, the south don’t wear masks anywhere except some doctors offices (which I will not go to, I find other doc offices that doesn’t make you wear them). My husband had to go to Birmingham for training for work and he said they made them still wear masks everywhere even in hotels. I said will I won’t be traveling until this shit is normal again. I refuse to wear one even to see a specialist doctor for my Ménière’s.
How about Alabama, South Alabama to be precise, kek. Like to get back at Gov. Ivey for not letting Trump hold his July 3rd rally at the battleship. That Rino needs to go, she is also letting them do the door to door vaxx search. People are not happy with her is an understatement, except for the few dumbass liberals who support her. They say she switched parties from Dem to Rebuplican before she ran for Gov.
Did you get a KI poll call the other week? I gave them an earful....
What’s a KI poll? We usually don’t answer the phone to unknown callers, let the message machine take it, and if it’s like a doc office or something they leave a message where as others hang up and don’t leave a message. I do the same with my cell phone, let it go to message, i usually block those calls that I don’t know. That’s one reason we kept a house phone was so when you have to leave a phone number for something I use that number. I hardly give out my cell number, but somehow telemarketers still get it.
KI= Kay Ivey. Someone called and every survey question was like "Did you know Kay Ivey did this? Would you be more willing to vote for her knowing this?" etc and I was like NO. Nothing you can say will make us vote for her. She has to GO." lol. Poor guy. I only picked up bcz I don't know my own kids cells yet. :p
Well heck maybe I should answer the phone more so I can tell them my views also, lol. What do you think of Ziegler for Gov? He helped with the no toll bridge in Mobile. Now I see they are trying to bring it up again, and Ziegler let’s us know and is against it and all those prisons Ivey is trying to build on leased lands. He said he could make improvements on ones still in use and only having one big prison built on already county/state owned land.
Sounds EPIC. 🎉
Brew up some of that PNW micro brew goodness, don’t hold back on the alcohol content, unlike the piss beer known as Heineken.
A warehouse? We're going to need about 1,000 acres of land to party on.
We should rent Lukenbach TX out.
Drive by with a megaphone 📣 yelling "COPE!!!! COPE!!!" Across all major cities. God knows how many people I hadn't talked to in years reach out to me saying that after not being political on social media since 2016.
Our moment approacheth.
DC @ the Capitol
I could be wrong; however, President Trump never conceded, and he could sue to overturn the Arizona Certification. The Constitutional remedy is that in the event of a Presidential election without all States certified properly. Then, it goes to Congress, where Each State gets a Vote based on the state's Senate Majority.
So Illinois, which has a Democrat State Senate Majority, would get 1 vote for Biden. Arizona, which has a Republican Senate, would get 1 vote for President Trump.
This would go on until President Trump was elected by Congress since there are way more Republican State Senate Majorities than Democrats.
Then-President Trump gets to cut these traitors and RINOs to the Mudder freak in Bone.
The fact that Trump never conceded is huge and confirms that he’s still commander in chief through everything that has happened. After all, how does a new person become president if the current occupant has not conceded?
Concession is a formality more than anything. Electoral college and senate certification of elections is the official process.
Even if someone lost fair and square, if they don't concede the constitution is overridden?
Quo warranto
A dead language shouldn't be used today.
<eyeroll>
Better get it off your money and all the government buildings then...
Oh, and don't mention those pesky logical fallacy names...
Obviously, it still lives.
I should've clarified in a legal sense.
They did not deliver the results to the president. The law says they must. Never did, he didn't concede, he has the football and the military, the rest is popcorn eating entertainment fun.
Did she? I remember hearing she called Trump the next day to concede, but I don't think she ever did it publicly.
Not totally sure about that though.
Its a show mate. A produced show...moments its genuine.
You are absolutely correct. The answer is contained in the Constitution (Twelfth Amendment). There is no need to make things more complicated than necessary.
Although the exact issue we are dealing with is not spelled out, the intent is sufficiently clear to allow congress to deal with the exigent circumstances. There is no doubt that the intent is when the electoral college result is not sufficient, Congress decides according to the procedure specified and there is ample precedent for application of Constitutional Intent in the absence of strict guidance. The Supreme Court takes this approach quite often when resolving Constitutional issues.
Senate was the key
Excuse me- but fuck that.
Since when do we award cheating criminals another election opportunity.
this
I don't like the whole "new elections" theme
Trump won the election. So did the down ballot republicans, such as they may be.
We need the people we ALREADY ELECTED to hold office.
Allowing new elections...what could go wrong LOL
Well it’s the uncharted territory with The Constitution, we have never had this happen in this country so... if we had a fair honest election in the country please WHO WOULD WIN? Can you say President Trump! 🇺🇸🗽🇺🇸
I think they recall the electoral voters and have them revote with new info. Is that correct???
Remember folks... that if Arizona holds a NEW election... it will be certified. Voter ID's required, all ballots will have serial #'s, counting will be supervised and watched...
... and Trump can choose any running mate he wants. Mike Pence does NOT need to be on the ticket. :>)
Pence isn't an issue anyway, since you can't serve as VP from Gitmo. That motherfucker needs to be tried at military tribunal for high treason.
"KNOWINGLY"
Watch him run.
Certainly looks like they are building up to a new election.
Paper ballots, no more bad computers.
110%
Wait a minute… this % smells like Dominion %s :)
kek :D
No new election. They have the results of the last one.
This.
Jul 17, 2020 5:47:13 PM EDT https://qalerts.app/?n=4587
C19 narrative kill date: Election Day +1
Prepare for zero-day [massive cyber-power] attacks [attempts] on 11.4.
Q
Yep! Everyone should have the ability to survive without leaving their residence for several weeks and also to defend their life. It could get that bad very quickly.
On 11.4?
DoD law of war manual. Section 11.4
TY
Oh hell! It’s on now!
Y’all realize when Router traffic confirms data packets flowing to Chyneez IP’s…that’s really War?
We shoulda bombed them on Nov. 4th.
This👆🏼
ultimately this is the quickest resolution. Throw your hands up and say "too much effort to untangle the last election, audits are showing fraud took place, lets have a do-over, 1 day only"
Ha ha no
Trump won, fair and square
Will the paper stock be traced to a foreign country? Or will it just be the instructions to the actors being traced?
It will be strange if the paper stock is EXACTLY a match for the fraudulent ballots in Georgia and Pennsylvania.
Coordination could be quite the discovery.
Good thinking there fren.will be very interdasting if it is
There is a company in Maricopa County called Runbeck that printed ballots for Georgia's election. I believe it was Cobb County where I saw boxes of Runbeck printed ballots on pallets. Now, considering they printed them for Georgia, why wouldn't they print them for Maricopa County? I'm not saying they DID, but I sure would look into it.
They mentioned Runbeck today when discussing the paper.
Remember China burning tons of papers at their Texas embassy that suddenly shut down before the election?
I think Jovan Pulitzers expertise about the paper is yet to be revealed.
Awesome. I can't wait.
Captcha smell it? Mmmm….
No need for any new elections. These Forensic Audits can clearly count every valid ballot. Count the valid ballots and be done with it all.
What about any Trump ballots that were destroyed, which seemed to be a common occurrence. How do you account for those?
There will still be more than enough. If just destroying ballots was enough then they wouldn’t have printed all the fake ones.
Wrong conclusion Wendy! No new election necessary. You and your AZ Senate colleagues need to decertify the Biden electors and certify a slate of Trump electors immediately. When someone commits crimes to steal an election they do not get a mulligan!
No. Those electors go to Trump. You don't get a do-over when you get caught cheating.
While I agree completely, it would be really fun to see the real numbers. Would ANY Biden supporters actually show up to vote?
Queue the riots and UN peacekeepers.
Peace stealers
I voted for Trump already, legally, on November 3, 2020. Since when do we give cheaters another chance? No, we do not reward bad behavior. The truth is President Trump won by a landslide, and he should be back in the White House ASAP. I would like for the senator spot in AZ to be verified too. I do not think Mark Kelly won legally, without cheating.
Remember her name. She will go down in history as one of the many people who saved the United States of America and we can proudly talk about her and others to future generations!
A diamond thief does not get to keep the diamonds when caught. The Arizona electors are Arizonas alone to give and are in essence Arizona's "diamonds". They can do with them as they see fit.
There is not a damn thing the fed can do about it. This is the perogitive of the state legislatures.
The second that ceases to be the case; is the second everything our society was founded upon and eveything that came after it from it no longer matter nor exists.
And to fuck with whatever they say about anything moving forward. Become ungovernable.
Read the comments .... too classic, but eh .... quite funny to see them scurm
To those saying a new election is unnecessary: what about the down-ballot races? Do we just assume every R won? I think a new election will actually be less effort in the long run since the enemy has had months to obfuscate and destroy evidence.
Rino Republicans were in on this!
Exactly, that's why we need a new election. To sort out the patriots from the traitors.
Lance Armstrong was stripped of 7 Tour de France titles when it was discovered he cheated. Those titles went to the other competitors of those events. The events did not have a 'repeat'. You cheat, you lose.
Precedence set in this event took all of his titles to all of his other races... I pray we see the same outcome with Biden. Strip him of ever having held office... Every bill he ever voted on == null Every paycheck he ever collected == paid back His Vice Presidency w/ Obama == null Obama having ever been elected == null Every bill Obama signed in == null
One can have big dreams :)
She's catching a lot of heat from the libtards!!
I love her she's awesome
Anyone else bet on this election? Do we get refunds?
I bet with my neighbor 100 dollars, we both wanted trump, but he said biden will win because of cheating. He decided not to take money for "winning". The real question is, will he and I both be right soon? haha
The betting sites are probably all linked to Dominion. Remember everything is rigged.
Why the hell do we need new elections? NO! Recall Kelly. Seat those who were denied our voice.
The last I read, AZ does not have a system in place to decertify electors. If somebody has information to the contrary, please post it.
Will the AZ Dems leave the state now? Quick, ground all the flights.
I understand that however once the electors have been granted, does AZ have a system in place to withdraw them? The Constitution doesn’t address that scenario so it must be up to the state legislature’s to plan for that contingency. There is however the SCOTUS ruling that fraud vitiates everything so maybe that’s the solution:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/98/61
That Supreme Court case doesn't appear to apply to voting. It seems to apply to contacts or land agreements or other official documents or representations in court when dealing with possible fraudulent sources. Such court decisions don't expand into things like voting or confirming electors. This really only applies to its own specific part of court documents and stuff.
An election is a contract between the American people and the elected official. Even Sydney Powell has quoted this case as well as the fact that elections are contracts.
This is my understanding as well.
Not sure but didn't someone say fraud vitiates everything?? Correct me if I am mistaken.
Codemonkeyz
Yes, it is called the legislature. See Constitution. They have all the power to control it. All they have t do is use it.
Crimes must be prosecuted.
Oh shit, can tjey make the electors remote? I didn't think of that.