Yeah, I know. First post and all. Get over it - this is the first time I've been motivated to speak. And you all would be wise to listen.
First, let me say that I do not now, nor have I ever, worked at an "agency," nor do I have any clearance or any obligation not to speak (no NDA). So I'm free to speak.
In my past, I functioned as a consultant. At one point I was assisting a party that was contemplating making purchases of companies/technologies in a unique "space" and then merging the companies/technologies.
What space?
I want you to imagine that a great many of the engineers that created various aspects of Prism (yes, the Prism that Snowden told us about) went into private enterprise. I want you to further imagine that they started up various companies that created various platforms that were, say, metaphorically ten degrees off of Prism, and had applications that were commercial. This is not imaginary, friends. There's about a dozen such companies. And I looked at all of their platforms.
Before I advance, I can hear you object: "but I never heard of these companies or platforms."
Let me explain how they work: (1) the platforms require subscription access and are expensive; (2) the subscribers are all corporate; (3) the corporations have to explain who they are and why they want the subscription - money alone won't buy access; (3) then they audit the corporation and force it to create a room with controlled access, and they ensure that only people from within said room are permitted to access their platforms; and (4) all of the individuals within the aforementioned room are required to have an appropriate security clearance - those are the people accessing these platforms. Got it?
So, basically, I'm talking about a weird netherworld where it's not quite clear where the government ends and private business begins. But, technically, on its face, it's all private business.
The point is that I explored all of these platforms, and I know what they do. And they all have a common ancestor. Prism. So it's not too hard to form reasonable conclusions about its capabilities.
Now, on to True The Vote (TTV). Almost without a doubt, TTV has been assisted by the NSA with both: (i) datasets; and (ii) the platform used to analyze the datasets.
Let's start with the datasets. Because of a DIFFERENT "tour of duty" as a consultant, I can tell you with 100% certainty that it is not possible to buy datasets that permit inquiry into where devices (phones) were without massive gaps in either: (1) devices; or (2) timeframes. So you CAN buy information about devices and their locations, but the information will have huge gaps in it, and would not permit TTV to do what it did.
That said, here's what happened. Every 30 seconds, the WiFi transceiver in your phone is spinning up and looking for WiFi networks. On about the same timeframe, your cellular radio is spinning up and looking for cell towers. The information concerning the following is exported by the makers of the O/S of your device: (1) what WiFi networks are visible; (2) their respective signal strengths; (3) timestamps; (4) what cell towers are visible; (5) their respective signal strengths; and (6) timestamps. None of this is available to developers of apps, by the way. Apple deprecated access to all of this information LONG ago. Anyhow, by virtue of the O/S exporting this information, the NSA has this information for every device. And they use it to query a database, and what is returned is your location ("If at such-and-such time, these WiFi networks were visible with these strengths, and these cell towers were visible with these strengths, where was the device at such time?"). The government drives around metro areas recording WiFi networks, cell towers, and their strengths, and correlating that to location. And it works VERY well in urban areas - but like shit outside of urban areas. Anyhow, that's how TTV knows where the devices were with no gaps in timeframes or devices. They had access to this dataset. That also why TTV only "bought" datasets for urban areas. The dataset supplied to them by the NSA is only accurate in urban areas. As I said, this technique does not work at all outside of urban areas. (5G changes all of this, but that is another story for another post.)
Now, what you need to know is this. Those platforms I mentioned previously. They do, indeed, have geofiltering and geoanalysis capabilities. But that's about 5% of what they do. They mainly find connections between people. These platforms permit a user to seek out every message sent by any particular individual across essentially any messaging system. That's where this is going next.
Let me paint a picture.
Let's say TTV uses its platform to identify all devices that began life more than 100 miles from a given "crooked" nonprofit, and arrived at the non-profit within a travel span of, say, 2 days. Well, that's the driver of the truck that the trafficked the ballots. Where did the tuck start from? Well, that's the company responsible for trafficking the ballots. Who are its executives? Now use the aforementioned platforms to find all of their messages, to examine all wire transfers to and from them personally and their companies, to examine every suspicious activity report filed against their respective bank accounts, and so on.
You end up figuring out who printed ballots, who shipped the ballots, who filled out the ballots, and who financed it all. That's where this is going. And I'm not guessing about the capabilities of the platforms. I know their capabilities for certain, which means I know the capabilities of the NSA's platform that was undoubtedly furnished to TTV. And I'm not guessing about the datasets. With 100% certainty, TTV is being supported by elements within the NSA, who are probably sanitizing the delivery of the datasets and platform through intermediate "private" companies, so TTV can say that it did not get anything from the NSA.
Sorry - this is long, and probably both winding and confusing. I am typing this in a sort of flow-of-consciousness manner. If you care to, fire away with anything, and I'll respond as I can.
If you guys look up my other substantive post from yesterday, you'll see that I think this will lead back to Jeff Bezos. Specifically, I think the "upstream" exploration will lead to Amazon distribution facilities.
-Bezos HATES Trump. They clashed constantly during Trump's tenure.
-Amazon has the infrastructure to move all the ballots without requiring the need to evade all of the security apparatuses of the USPS.
-The payola was some combination of the under-charged fees in Amazon's deal with the USPS and the DC Amazon headquarters deal.
-Now Bezos resigns July 5. Just now he resigns, after being its CEO since launch? I smell a rat.
You've blown my mind.
There is also stuff going on with Gamestop and rumours that it will be the next Amazon. I don't have a lot of detail but they were discussing it in the Superstonk sub on reddit.
As you know, Superstonk thinks Ryan Cohen is a white hat who will change the entire financial system.
So this is how Amazon will tie in/meet its downfall.
Power to the players.
Decentralization of power EVERYWHERE is the way to go.
Great work
PS- Bezos is owner of the official megaphone of the Deep State: The Washington Post.
PSS- Imagine the databases of both Amazon and Wapo … who orders what? Who reads which articles… etc.
Bozo was a clown. Makes sense that Bezos is too
Just read both - thanks for your contribution. Good analysis. Trying to think if there are any good alternatives to Bezos, and cant think of any really.
As of right now, none. You CAN find alternatives, but they will take longer to ship, give you much more hassle for returns (amazon takes just about anything back, hassle-free, within 30 days.
So they have the beat prices, the quickest shipping (even on Sundays through their own vans, and independent contractors like you and I who use our own vehicles to pick up packages from their distro centers and deliver in the form of "blocks"
I've done this before, I have an SUV. I'd open the Amazon flex app, see a 3 hour block paying 18-20 per hour, pick it up, go there, stuff my vehicle, and then deliver their packages using their app that puts all the packages on a route via GPS.
There is no other business that compares.
Cheapest, fastest, and accept any returns.
I bought a galaxy 4 watch from them for 240, then found an international version (No us warranty) for 180 on t-dimension out of honk Kong. They actually got it to me in like 2-3 days and offer their own 1 year warranty just like Samsung does, so I went with them over Amazon and that was the only time I saw Amazon get beat on value.
Are we then looking at when the SHTF Amazon as a whole will be brought down or just certain people within the organization who were part of this?
less convenience but little stores everywhere would be so thankful
How is this a month old and with almost no comments? Well stated.
He's a handshake, so they cannot successfully post. Another mod found it in the filters and realized it was a great post so he manually approved it.
Thanks Mods...again! Now if they (Mods) could bestow a Pepe for RPPM..
LOL
If I could figure that out, I wouldn't have a chicken head next to my name.
Lmao you can message the mods via the sidebar (click magnifying glass on upper right corner and scroll down on mobile). Request what you want.
I thought you were an anime lover xD
I didn't know it was a chicken.... because not a biologist.
what makes someone a handshake?
Can you imagine? This guy wrote a well thought out post, got blocked by AutoMod, and didn't get justice until a month later.
Yet he still didn't get nasty and start throwing shade at the mod team with the rest of the shills.
You have the patience of a saint, u/simon_says. Please make sure you reach out to us in modmail if your post gets blocked next time. (and for any other handshakes reading this, that includes you too.)
i seem to remember ttv , the woman- saying she borrowed a supercomputer.meaning she was giving access to one. to do the work putting all that data together
yeah thats not how it works.id say nsa let them ...more like it.
What in the hay are handshake posts?!
New users have a handshake icon next to their user name. They usually can't create posts to protect the board from shills and a-holes.
Gotcha. Thx.
See this chicken head by my name? I don't know where it came from or who gave it to me, but you'll see icons next to other names. (And some people have told me it's not a chicken, so this is like the blue dress all over again). New people have a "handshake" icon identifying them as new (we ALL started out this way but you'll run across the odd person that conflates being new with being stupid).
I mean it looks nothing like a chicken head. I see it as a white cat wearing a Trump hat. I'd definitely trade you that one with mine.
Excited 'tarded pepe for the win !
I like yours!!
Bahahaha!! You're the first person to call it something else that makes sense. I can totally see a cat wearing a hat now!
Message the mods on the side bar and request a change, peaches. If on mobile, click the magnifying glass on the upper right and scroll down.
Appreciate the tip but My Pepe has grown on me. I think it’s the hair. Lol
Haha. Thanks…chicken head 😂
Im not advocating for that behavior, but this is the reasoning why some people bag on handshakes:
Aside from the honest new user, the shills would also be handshakes when they started out. So it was commonplace to see some asinine comment with a handshake.
Even when there wasn't shills, you'd also get new users who were very pompous and critical, but who knew nothing about Q, or anything Q related for that matter.
Again, not saying I agree with it, but I understand why it happens.
100% Same
Thank you, Chronic.
I probably have a few more lengthy screeds in me. I'll contact you if they're blocked.
Best, Simon
Anon, thank you.
And thanks to the mod team for digging this gem out of the trash.
Great question, 🤔
Because most of us do not understand it, honestly. I had to start looking up definitions in the first paragraph. I gave up. I'm uneducated when it comes to stuff like this.
It's not him, it's me. Lol. He did very good, I'm sure, but it's stuff I don't know anything about. I guess one example is "metaphorically 10 degrees off Prism". I don't know what metaphor he's referring to, if he's even using the traditional definition of metaphor, or something else. Prism is an IT company, right? So what is "10 degrees off" an IT company mean? Yes, you would have to explain it like I'm technologically illiterate. And most people don't have time to do that, so I remain ignorant. Sigh.
Prism is the name of the NSA's bulk data collection program. The poster was saying these were private companies with basically the same abilities.
To clear things up, PepeSee is correct. I just meant that they are very similar.
There was a movie called "six degrees of separation." Since then it has become a metaphor.
Kevin bacon
What was the name of the painting in that movie? But for reference on the plot for those who haven’t seen it … https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation
Edit to add - it was also one of Will Smiths first major roles.
I'm in the same boat as you lol.
Lol. Ur funny.
Thank you. This capability is definitely real. the chinese use these techniques as part of their social credit system and I imagine the NSA is even better at it. Unless you live in a tree on a mountain in Alaska, the breadcrumbs are everywhere. I just noticed that this post is older and I agree with u/munchaussen. Thank you mods for reviving this post.
Sometimes a handshake can be from a very important person who will only post once. It's really like looking for a needle in a haystack of information.
I keep thinking of that truck driver whistle-blower that drove from NY to Lancaster, PA. He said there were boxes and boxes of ballots. Ballots, as in hundreds of thousands of ballots! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xaA4dYsbQ
TIME FRAME: Oct 20-21, 2020 (Election Day was Nov 3rd, 2020)
This driver works for a company that is contracted with the USPS
AMAZON is contracted with the USPS.
TRUE THE VOTE says Mules went to 'STASH HOUSES' to get their ballots to stuff into drop boxes.
Oct 20-21, 2020 Truck Driver went from NY to Lancaster, PA with a truckload of ballots. After waiting 6 hrs to unload ballots he was told by the transport manager to take the ballot cargo to Harrisburg. The truck driver was upset because he didn't get the necessary paperwork to verify his delivery so he could get paid.
He unhitched his trailer from the cab and went home. The next day he went to his trailer and it was gone! Where did the trailer part of his truck go? Where did those ballots end up?
Gov of PA; Tom Wolf announced publicly on Oct 22, 2020 that Biden would win PA. This is one day after the truck driver's fiasco in Lancaster, PA. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/523829-pennsylvania-governor-predicts-biden-win-things-are-different-now-than-in/
Harrisburg is the capitol of PA. Seat of where the Governor is; lives/works as the States' Civil Servant.
These ballots were early 'mail-in ballots', as verified by the truck drivers' testimony of what happened to him on Oct 20-21, 2020.
Gov Tom Wolf's Oct 22, 2020 statement about a PA Biden win just one day later.
TRUMP was leading PA by over 700,000 votes, but PA took 4-5 more days to count 1.4 million 'absentee ballots'.
Did those 1.4 million mail-in ballots commercially contracted by USPS-AMAZON driven from NY end up in Harrisburg, PA? And how many other truck drivers for USPS-AMAZON end up with truck loads of 'absentee ballots' for Pittsburg, Philadelphia, Allentown, Wilkes-Barre, etc??? All for a Biden win...
CONNECTING THE DOTS!
Did anyone else hear this Patriots sing “Pallets Full of Ballots”? Omg, I played it over and over! He has since taken it off YouTube, but a search of media outlets has some clips:
https://weartv.com/news/local/pensacola-singer-performs-at-million-maga-march-in-dc
In my mind it was legendary!!
So Q told us that the 🤡's in America were highly jealous of what the NSA had accomplished.
Reading through this, it almost sounds as though the 🤡's leveraged the original software contractors for PRISM to create some shell companies to front a similar capability that lived in the corporate space.
Agreed. OP explained it just as a private company would hire X contractor to analyze/record X internal logistics.
E.g. You work for (company). You want to know what people are saying about your product on let's say this site.... So company hires an outside firm to collate any and all product information here and then they return this information back to the company to ascertain and proceed with whatever causal/effect plan of action they deem necessary.
Just replace company with clowns, and product with voter data.... Ya know, I bet they use this (or similar) methods for their public cyber attacks too. E.g. glowies/shills/et al
You are more correct than you may know.
So is it accurate to say the Chinese do this through a command and control system, whereas prism et. al. cast a net over a more diverse and open environment? Almost mainframe vs WAN kind of thing? I mean, everybody will use everything they have, but that's how I look at the different approaches.
The NSA nickname for the CIA (Vietnam era) was TBAR (those bastards across the river). Further, the NSA origins go back to WW1, were military, and the original "spooks". The NSA is military now for all intents and purposes. Admral Rogers who warned Trump about Trump Tower being compromised was the NSA head then and every head of the NSA has been military. Think about that for a second.
The CIA? Nope, drawn from the ranks of academia & the private sector at the top. Now this wasn't a bad thing when it was young, 2 intelligence agencies with very different structures/disciplines. You'd get completely dissimilar approaches to the same problem. But, if one sprang from military and took an oath to the Constitution and one did not...which might be the more likely to go rogue?
A well written out piece that a lot of us felt was the case, but didn't know exactly how the dots were connected.
What sells me is the AMZN delivery infrastructure.
Devil's tail.
Not only this - they are applying this hegemony to the entire supply chain. Small businesses are becoming reliant on them for product and parts sourcing. As an example, ask any mobile or PC repair store where they're ordering their parts. (What really happened to Fry's?)
More broadly, their market dominance influences the inventory on hand of every major retailer. Try de-Amazoning and finding access to "boutique" products locally. The examples are almost limitless. Centralized control over access to staple products is the plan.
We are at war. People need to wake up, shop local, and do without the "convenience" of 3rd party services delocering your food. And people need to do it yesterday.
Truly amazing post. Many thanks.
Thank you for enlightening. Hope this pans out as you say.
Very good words my fren.
This reinforces a theory I've had. The NSA has all, I mean all, everything down to the smallest bit or byte, communication within the U.S.
How is evidence introduced legally? The NSA "launders" this information through a third party, like TTV. Now it becomes public knowledge and can be freely disseminated.
It's all coming into place. TTV had to first request this information on their own, as a third party. Now the info will be used in the Takedown.
NCSWIC.
I've long wondered if the huge spike in hard drive prices due to flooding that coincided with NSA's Utah data center weren't related. All the sudden there was no inventory and prices are just now starting to recover. You'd certainly be stretching the storage supply chain thin to fill that place up.
Nah, that’s probably just that hard-drive mining or storage selling isn’t profitable right now. With the whole crypto market down, it probably affected that too
Wow. THANK YOU for sharing your knowledge and insight. Food for thought and a reason for HOPE that the TRUTH will come out and that JUSTICE will be served on those responsible for The Crime of the century. This is my prayer
OP - Thanks for sharing your insights. Your post provides a better understanding of the technical side of this for those of us less up on that side of things.
here ill put out a company that has this tech... SAFETICA
question..does using a VPN mess with abilities to capture geo position? also great post "handshake" haha! its pretty clear who is shilling and who is legit, glad you decided to say this....simon says "keep it coming"
You cannot effectively hide your location on a modern phone, short of pulling the battery or a faraday bag. Their ways of figuring out your location is many layers deep at this point, most of which cannot be disabled. This is for both Android and iOS.
You can achieve your goal with a fully de-googled android phone and then be VERY careful which apps you install and what permissions you give them.
faraday case it stays then. thank you Gents
Leave the phone at home any time you can.
Shoot, 25 years ago most people drove everywhere without a mobile phone
So where does the data actually get put? I certainly believe that the capability is there, but outside some app like FB or whatever, if the functionality was being used by something installed from factory, it has to be writing to one of the R/W partitions, and would show up (esp if you have root and can search all of /data on Android).
So there should be a smoking gun... and from there, figure out what executable it is, and make it go away. Even a diff from AOSP should lend some clues to what executables on the phone are different than their open source brethren.
I just can't believe that it is completely secret today, after all these years. It should be obvious, or dismissed as an unsubstantiated rumor (again, outside of FB or apps that absolutely narc on you).
Have you heard of the Dunning-Kruger Effect?
If as described, the system works by linking wi-fi net names with cell tower locations, VPN is moot.
Well, IF the VPN worked (which I guess it doesn't), then it could track all it wants but without knowing who or what was being tracked.
Nope. Your radio or wifi ping has zero to do with a VPN.
BRAVO, and as an "IT" orientrd individual I concur with what portion of it I have personal professional expertise. I however do not have the "spook" oriented inside track but trust your analysis 100.
Check this tweet below. This was posted on Nov 3, 2020 itself!
https://twitter.com/ShawnTragedy/status/1323535839566077952
It confirms that TTV has 100% backing of DJT. With TTV connected to "2000 Mules" and upcoming exposure to 2020 Election fraud, they are definitely a "Big" player, if not the biggest player to watch out for!!
It would only help if NSA is part of MAGA, and not part of the commies. Sometime, especially for me, it is too difficult to know who is or isn't part of the commes.
Thank you very much for sharing your insight and perception. We will pray that you are safe and that our LORD JESUS CHRIST will keep all of us safe and speed along the process of halting the efforts of our enemies and bring peace, and abundant blessings to our time. Take care and may GOD the father bless and keep you in his countenance simon_says!
Thinking about this…
Fantastic first post! More of this please! You have a unique skill set apparently!
WOW, excellent post, simon!
Thank you, this is a high quality post!
Had someone VERY CLOSE to me ask Gregg Phillips about all of this on Truth Social.
No idea whether he'll respond (he owes no one a response), or whether he's free to respond truthfully and with candor.
But why not lead the horse to H2O, right?
Awesome post and an interesting theory concerning Bezos and Amazon. Definitely something Im gonna keep in my back pocket for future proves past happenings.
How does Prism differ from the database that was being abused by FBI contractors using to/from and about queries to spy on Trump and team using the two hop rule? Are they parallel or are they one and the same? Two different databases from two different, competing agencies? One C_A and one NSA? Is Prism the platform that the data shed in Utah was built for which is said to be capable of housing every electronic communication from every device on the planet for the next 1000 years?
u/simon_says
This is a good question. One that requires a lengthy answer - and some speculation on my part.
May I disappoint you by deferring until tomorrow? I don't have it in me to write a coherent lengthy reply tonight.
Bug me if you don't hear back from me. I won't mind.
At your convenience, friend. This is good stuff and seems to have energized discussion.
Is it fair to say that the stuff abused by the FBI contractors came from private companies (Internet providers, etc) and was doctored, where as the stuff that Prism provides access is authentic NSA data thats top secret and possibly highly illegal ?
Curios if you could list the dozen or so companies?
The project is dead, so I probably COULD do that... But I'd rather not, as I don't want to risk attracting attention. If the "wrong" person saw this, that person would definitely know who I am. I hope you understand.
Yeah I have a question. What is next? I have seen so many "we-got-em" election posts........ yet no one seems to have a plan to correct it all. Whatever is published just gets ignored. Were you saying exposure of the Amazon connection is next?
To be clear, I have no "inside" knowledge. I'm just a guy putting together pieces, like everyone else.
That said, I think disclosure of Amazon's role in all of this comes next. That's where I think this leads. But my foundation for that is nothing more than what I've shared with all of you. I'm not some sort of insider in all of this. I'm just a guy who reads a lot, thinks logically, and connects dots.
And you wrote it so even someone like me could get the essential gist of how this works. Thank you. And I hope your deduction is on target. I have always thought Amazon was like a cartoon bad guy corporation. From selling used books to this evil.
Copy that. You're among similar countrymen here.
What scares me is the fact that some of the government agencies use (or have used) AWS to store their cloud data.
I'm sure some did it knowingly.
They did when I was a contractor.
Thank you for this, it's very informative. Always in the back of my mind I believed they were being given access to information. You connected a lot of dots for me. Well done!
High quality! Thank you! I look forward to reading more
Fantastic information, chilling and exciting at the same time - thank you for your contribution / this is what makes this community so great ! Thank you Patriot @simon_says!
Does anyone have the guts to admit they have no idea what the OP is talking about?
Having worked on the physical layer of said capabilities I can verify at least part of what the OP said is true. Contractors though, have a very strict privacy barrier regarding association of waveform characteristics and the user of the cell phone.
Thus it would require a court order or very high level clearances to gain access to such associations. I'm guessing that's not much of an obstacle within the NSA.
Great post Thanks for the explanation!!
Great post information. It surely sounds plausible.
Great post! This makes perfect sense and corelates with thoughts that Trump knew there was gonna be cheating, and got his nsa guys to collect all the data. It had to be disseminated through different hands to make sure the original arbiter was never found out.
Great post fren, glad to have you with us!