https://t.me/bioclandestine/414
Alright, this is going to be a very uncomfortable conversation for many, but someone needs to step up. This is a topic I never directly talk about, but today we are going to talk about it. We are going to have an adult conversation about Q. More specifically, the people who talk about Q, the Anons.
To preface my statements, those that have known me, know I go back to the beginning. I’ve been following the drops since Halloween, 2017. I used to be popular anon on Twitter under many different names, I’ve read every drop a plethora of times. I’ve followed the entire time. I’m an Anon, I just intentionally avoid directly talk about Q to create a message more digestible for normies, and all those who are turned off by the Q community.
So Q is back to posting after zero comms for 18 months, which has obviously sparked a lot of excitement in the Anon community. But with this excitement, comes a slew of new terrible decodes/interpretations and egregious stretches to make connections that simply are not there.
Folks, you need to recognize that it’s different this time around. We have built a big-ass audience over the past 18 months. We are literally the news now. I’m breaking massive stories like Russia targeting US biolabs, while the media are praising nazis and pushing fake war propaganda. Big name guests like Gregg Phillips, Kash Patel, Dinesh D’Souza, Trump’s Lawyer Peter Ticktin, etc., have been coming onto Anon podcasts and shows. A lot of people come to Anons for their news now, because the media have completely fallen off of a cliff and we are providing the ACTUAL NEWS.
Not with drops and decodes, but with real-world proofs like Biden tanking the country, gas prices, election fraud via mail-in voting, C19 came from Wuhan lab, Durham, Russia accusing the DNC of crimes against humanity via bio-genocide, Hunter Biden laptop and dirty dealings in Ukraine, Epstein. All these real-world proofs have drawn people to us, because we were right about all this stuff and the MSM was dead wrong.
Now that Q is back, this actual news and proof will be muddied with popular Anons in the community making asinine “decodes” like finding 765 spaces between the words in a random drop, dividing it by 17 and it equals 45, and that somehow means that all of Q is legitimate.
Stuff like this may be fun for people, but it doesn’t help the movement in any way. All of the people who are going to buy into these ridiculous non-connections are people who already follow Q. You’re not waking anyone up. You’re not helping. But here’s how it hurts the movement:
-it gives critics low hanging fruit to discredit -it deters normies because it doesn’t make any sense or prove anything -it lessens the impact of real proofs via association
I was inspired by a Truth from @IET17 and he’s 100% correct.
“The time for obscure, reaching, and convoluted proofs is over.”
I couldn’t agree more. Clearly I don’t speak for everyone, but I highly suggest the entire Anon community do a serious self-evaluation of themselves, as well of what content they deem viable to post/promote.
Too many in the community forget what the main objective of the mission is. The mission is NOT to see who can get the most followers or get 10k likes on a funny meme. The mission is to wake up normies to assist white hats with global acceptance for high profile arrests and crimes against humanity. That’s your one job, and it’s LONG overdue for everyone start taking it more seriously.
Shape your message to reach a broader audience instead of catering to the same echo chamber. Stop trying to legitimize Q with decodes, and let the real-world proofs come in real time. We’ve seen a million of them. We don’t have to make any up.
Use discernment before posting something. If you have to think if it’s a proof, it’s not a proof. There should be ZERO stretching involved. Stop trying to find 17s in everything. Just talk about the content of the drops, and how they relate to the real-world happenings. THATS IT.
Look at the MSM, the first thing they bring up about “QAnon” followers is that they think JFK Jr. is alive and working with Trump and “2 more weeks”. Subjects made up by followers, completely unrelated to the drops, Q directly refutes it, and it’s still the first things the critics resort to when looking to discredit Q.
The things critics point to, are never directly from Q, it’s always from followers who don’t know how to interpret the drops or Anons guessing on dates that big things will happen. The critics point to these things instead of the drops themselves, because quite frankly, Q was right about pretty much everything, with the major exception being that people will be held accountable, which obviously hasn’t happened.
The overall themes and narratives incontrovertibly have validity, and that’s all we need to wake up normies. The story given to them by the MSM has fallen apart and people are looking for alternative sources for news. We claim we are the news now, it’s time everyone started acting like it.
Big name accounts, people with large followings, please, use some discernment and stop reaching for stuff that’s not there.
Anon community, please, use some discernment on who you follow and what you promote.
I know these are exciting for the community, but everyone needs to recognize the opportunity we have here. We need to get organized, and everyone needs to understand your role in the mission and execute said role. That’s it. Your mission is to wake up normies, not scare them away. DO YOUR JOB!
Respectfully,
-Clandestine
Thank you. World-class mental stretches around here, meant to turn everything wishful into proof.
If i see one more "Watch The Water" i will snap
Row & wade are both done in the water.. 🤔
I got a feeling "Watch the Water" is going to be an ongoing joke when this is all over...
"Watch the water" is in reference to Agenda 2030 and privatizing the public water access. It's already happening and been happening. IMO
Lake Mead
This very subject was pointed out to me yesterday. It is very interesting indeed. What exactly is going on there? I find it inconceivable that this is anything but a man-made attempt to cut the power and water supply for hundreds of thousands of people. The person who was telling me about Lake Mead thought I was crazy when I expressed my opinion about somebody causing the situation but it was my gut reaction.
It's never happened before, why would it happen now? The gut is usually always right lol
See my reply below. Too little rain, too much use. That Lake is supplying most of the people in Arizona and also some in California. It is lying open to the sun in an extremely dry area, high surface area to depth ratio, lots of evaporation aside from the usage. Not enough rain and snow in Colorado. No mystery at all that it would dry up.
I have watched Lake Mead sink for at least 15 years. The water in Lake Mead comes mainly from the western slope of Colorado so if anything nefarious is happening, it's there. However, Lake Powell is also going down. It's almost like having prolonged drought in the 4 Corners area leads to less water, amazingly enough. And it has happened before,, wiping out the Mesa Verde culture and the Hohokam. On top of which a lot more people in Arizona and California are using this water. Even if we didn't have 600,000 swimming pools in AZ we would be running out of water. The mountain community of Strawberry has tapped out and soon the rest of them will.
Yeah. Kind of a big deal when millions don't have water.
Do you recall the...was it the 50 dollar bill? The folded bill and the blowing of the dam?
Draining Mead could be a good thing seeing as that was part of their plan.
Seems a shame that so many are trying to turn the phrase into a joke when Agenda 2030 is anything but.
If we aren't ready to accept the wildest theories, we will never see the truth.
Well said. Quite frankly I think that too much attention is paid to "what will the brainwashed masses think if we discuss this?". We can't help that the "hive mind" will look strange to people who are asleep. It just will. Nor can we stop the Cabal's Deep State from attacking. They will attack no matter what we say or do. If we say nothing they can use they themselves will post crazy things and quote themselves, the way they do on reddit.
The only people trying to turn it into a joke have never really gotten Q and have always been "yeah, but where's the arrests?".
You mean it wasn't about an Evergreen container ship drawing a dick and balls? Dam, how mislead I was.
Can you share more info on this?
Ooooh, nice catch. BTW, I come here for the stretches. Stuff all those silly peeps who are not amused by these. I like my popcorn with lots of buttery Sauce.
lol
Thanks for the laugh lol.
Let me count the ways any string of numbers can be found to equal 17, 33, 45, 666, or 11.3.
Achktually whitehat Hitler was sent by Julian Assange who is trumps uncle to replace blackhat Hitler in 19 33 to complete the Plan by 1945 exactly 666 months before Trump took office
And it all happened in 17 minutes.
It depends on the constraints.
If you use the date, the time, the post number, any numbers in the body of the post, any numbers in any tweets that happened on the same date/time or with a match to a post number than, sure, you can invent any number you want.
But if you keep it very rigid and only use the date or only the post number and it adds up to or matches something relevant, that's much harder to invent any number you want. If you use a defined, agreed upon rule-set for adding or otherwise calculating the numbers than it's also much harder to invent relevant numbers.
This is the problem, no rule set. So every calculation is held valid on the grounds that white hats want to make things as difficult as possible for black hats by not making rule sets, which of course makes "comms" a matter of opinion and therefore defeats the purpose of "comms," at least as far as enlightening anons. Maybe white hats aren't really into publicizing their ideas.
Lake mead draining
Watch the water was simple. They use ships and subs to move the children. Disney does it right out in the open. This was to point us to the how, they are trafficking these kids and nobody notices.
IF I see on more "Watch The Water" BS there is going to be a: "Man Overboard Drill" with an anchor!!!
This screed has come at THE Most opportune time...Thank you, Clandestine!!!
Amen. Clandestine and IET17 are CORRECT.
Yes, it gets quite annoying.
Some of it gets pretty interesting though. Agree with u/SeeAreJay. "Watch the water" gets brought up constantly for the most random shit that can be tangentially related to some liquid substance or another
Yes, there are some retarded "decodes" going on right now, but I hope most of the Q community understand that some of those are just plants, like Phil Godliewski, the pedophile.
Q was never going to be FULLY interpreted until this whole thing is done. It's not pointless, no matter what ANYONE says. And that does include popular accounts like BioClandestine and IET-17 (whom I have always enjoyed).
Keep in mind who it was that brought us all together, and where we would be without Q at the moment. If you see an account knocking Q, think twice about who is behind it. Don't doubt Q....doubt the one casting doubt.
100 % this.
Wrong. It's anons analyzing data and sharing their perspectives.
Stupidity shouldn't be shared. Self-regulation is required.
I think it’s arguable that pizza gate and other “conspiracies” were considered stupidity as well.
If we only share when we think it won’t brand us a tin foil loon, we may as well just wait for cable news to tell us what to think.
That doesn’t mean exercising zero discernment. But I think we can all agree that most of what’s turned out to be true were once considered far reaching, stupid conspiracy theories - and remain that way for the perpetually brainwashed sleeping masses.
All of what's turned out to be true was once considered crack pot.
Clandestine isn't talking about real world situations. He's talking about the stretches people make to somehow decode everything that Q posts, or doesn't post, even when it yields zero practical outcomes.
Someone on this board recently wrote, when I raised the issue of applying discernment and due diligence: "The whole point is to throw ideas around and believe what you think is most likely."
That's a case in point. The stupidity that Trumpamania is referring to is not stupid ideas as much as it is stupid behavior. Not applying due diligence, discernment, not practicing empirical factual research etc, is stupid behavior (imo).
Also, another key point is this. Pizzagate was NOT Q. There is a lot of content out there that newbie anons have erroneously associated with Q because of a lack of distinguishing between Q and non Q content.
Hear, Hear!
I agree in part, but the real problems are some of the stretches that are Olympian in scale
I think you're getting us confused with Patriots. I'm on here every day and most of the "stupidity" is usually just someone trying to understand or it's a crazy theory they want perspective on.
Nothing we do here will ever not be considered stupid by the MSM or lolbtards. So who exactly are we trying to impress?
Of we can't discuss them here then what's the point. In the end we win and those who "discredit" us simply are lost. In the end they'll have to accept it.
Strange how we were even crazier for believing this stuff when it started, and yet we grew and there are brand new anons on here. In spite of the so called crazy theories. I think we need to stay open to the most incredible of ideas.
Who the hell expects Q to promote that JFK Jr is alive when nobody believes shit right in front of their faces.
In time we will know for sure. I think if we look for proofs we start tosnee plenty.
Sometimes, there is a lot more wishing, believing and emotionally reacting than analysis.
"...making asinine “decodes” like finding 765 spaces between the words in a random drop, dividing it by 17 and it equals 45..."
lmaoooooo this hits so true
Or the "gematria decodes" lol. You guys remember cerealsmoothbrain2? Wonder where that little rat scurried off to.
I find gematria to be insane bullshit.
It's like reading tea leaves. You're gonna see what you want to see.
The numbers in that add up to "My hovercraft is full of eels."
I got the sun burned out in 2017 amd was replaced by a fake one.
What is '666'?
6+6+6 = 18 = "R" = JFK jr. (allegedly)
kek
Whole integer halfway between 665 and 667
A big cup of Peruvian coffee if you figured out that the gematria for Space Force equals Big Mike's Junk.
hahahahhahahaahhahaha
Yeah... Until you do the math yourself.
It's extremely asinine of this Biowhoever to one, try and establish credibility with "I've been an anon in many different users and was popular" to then two, "don't share obscure decodes." I appreciate your contributions, but that does not give you authority to dictate what people are allowed to discuss. Like fuck right off with that authoritarian none senese- even our rules aren't that strict.
I'm not throwing shade at any good decodes using math, but some of the insane stretches we have seen!
So? It's people sharing ideas. If it's too far then articulate why.
But to stifle and regulate discussion is wrong.
come on youve got to admit some people go off the rails with the decodes....
And? Most of the time the community discusses it and often times the anon who theorized the idea is given alternative ideas that would not have otherwise happened had they not asked.
Wrong shaming is a practice that also needs to end. Just because someone has an outlandish idea does not merit them being silenced.
But then the people who criticize are called doomers, so what about that "wrong shame"?
This was posted on telegram.
Makes sense there.
they are time wasting op and a strawman op, imo
How do you know it's a waste of time if you stifle and regulate the ideas people have and shut them down before entertaining them and giving them a chance? Which will also make people less likely to share potentially good ideas by promoting a culture of people being scared to share their ideas.
You can't come to an informed conclusion on someone's possible decode if you just hand wave it as a waste of time. Sure you might get rid of some junk but you could be missing some real gems as well.
He's asking people to self-regulate. He is making several good points as to why.
I agree with him: there's a lot of stupid ideas here that get passed off and even stickied as "proofs" when they don't prove anything. Some of the mods here are partly to blame.
Incorrect. Stupid ideas get sitckied and then a mod prefaces them explaining why, usually to facilitate discussion and to allow the community to make informed decisions.
But you would have known that if you actually read the posts instead of just assuming the headline is all that matters, which I am assuming you did that since you responded the way you did.
This is partially my point. If people feel the need to "self-regulate" or risk being bashed, attacked, and/or have all their ideas hand waved away as "crazy stretches" then we're going to get a culture of fear where people don't post their ideas at all thinking "oh this is dumb" even if it might not be. As I said, this WILL get rid of a lot of junk, but it will also get rid of a lot of potentially great ideas or theories.
The best solution is to just allow and encourage people to post their ideas and if you think they're reaching explain why or move on and ignore. If something is obvious crap it should be easy to explain why. This is what open dialogue is and how you come to logical, well-thought out conclusions. Not by trying to regulate what gets posted for "quality", but by examining ideas as they come and reasoning out what's good and what's junk.
One exception is if people are just posting tired old "theories" that have been talked about again and again with nothing new to add. At that point the discussion has been had and they're just clogging up the board.
Sharing an idea or perspective is not a waste of time. What is, however is one word doomerfag whining. Participation is optional here.
Ok go decode
You definitely make some solid points on the flip side of the coin.
Maybe we stick to our strategy, but enhance it? Theory (765 spaces etc...) is labeled as such. We need theories! Normies need good memes, truth, news, and that will build confidence. I hope we can start finding a way to share out back up info with means. We think XYZ, want to know how, follow the QR code...
We do a good job of sorting our topics by theories and facts. I myself post "THEORY" in my post headers. If someone uses that as an excuse to ignore Q, that is on them.
Now if an Anon tells a normie they're a fucking retard, that is also wrong.
IMO - we could do better. I constantly find myself adding much more explanation, information etc when I share something with my Normie friends. I agree that a lot of posts are well thought out, well vetted, and Normie friendly. We also have a lot of posts that are the opposite. Maybe what I am envisioning is a blog site? Perhaps with a different format? Here is the meme, and a QR code sends you to a blogs spot that has research links, archived data etc... Truthfully I am spitballing. I guess i am looking for a way for Normies to get surprised by a video of Biden saying he is against abortion, for long terms, using racial slurs (for example). One of the things that drew me into this community was the wealth of information. The downside was months of rabbit holes... Maybe we need to push the rabbit holes into the normie sphere somehow.
You could always message the mods with this idea and see about having an archive link at the top of the site that links to a post with all the vetted and normie-speak theories. It would also help if you volunteered to help compile such a post.
At the same time, having to decide for ourselves is part of the game. You found the stuff that made sense to you and your friends. So it seems the system is working. It boils down to the free speech paradox. Being for free speech means having to accept things you don't agree with. More specifically here "Q related posts" mean that some people will be sharing their crack pot ideas. However to censor them outright is wrong. Can we do better? Yes, and I am trying.
That is the best way - We all do better if possible. I will start thinking about the combo post idea more. I like it!
Hmmmm...I might have to get rid of my t-shirt that says "Normies are fucking retards".
We call normies retards in this group as a way of internal venting so around your house and at a future anon gathering, sure go ahead. However... I don't know... maybe it's a shirt that can spark a conversation. My point is directly calling a normie a retard in discussion. Or any other number of pointless names... we do need to be better with how we treat our friends and family even when they mistreat us.
You have a good point that anons should be free to brainstorm. Bioclandestine also has a good point that we should spare normies the esoteric stuff. We should know our audience and save different levels of awakening for different sets and settings.
All that Clandestine wrote is the gist of 4148
The news is dead. You are what matters now. Handle with care. Q
Your taking exception to it is a twisting of the intent and meaning, in order to take offense.
As evidenced by your ludicrous interpretation that somehow Clandestine is asserting authority to tell others what to do, or even attempting to dictate what others should discuss.
Your response here is disingenuous. Disagree with OP if you want, but I strongly suggest (oh, sorry, didn't mean to dictate to you.... /s) that you leave the concocted outrage to the Leftists and cultural Marxists, and stick to doing what you usually do well; analysis.
The one guy who does this is downvoting everyone LMAO! Autism.
He must be big mad!
No we don't. The fact that we are not organized is our defense.
We have no leader for the media to focus on. Sure they can pick on some rando Q enthusiast, but the story will be lame. They have no ability to write effective hit pieces on us because we are so disorganized.
I think we are doing just fine. The Vaccine "Safe And Effective" narrative is toast. We played a huge role in that, just by sharing memes and especially by sharing legit research that showed how fucked up these c19 vaccines are.
This.
Maybe we organize our message better? Perhaps there is a way to provide research with messages? Normies- where is your MSM source may be falling apart because they don't trust MSM? Perhaps here is our several sources, and theorycraft...
Yeah, I think that's what BC was getting at.
I'm strongly inclined to agree.
However, after re-reading the OP, I suspect that "we have to get organized" is referring to each individual anon, rather than proposing some centralized or even decentralized organizational structure for the anon community.
In other words, "as individual anons, as a whole, we should be looking to step up our individual game, and focus on: (X)".
Yeah. Who is this fuckin clown and what authority do they have to tell me what to do and think?
Trick question: they have none.
I need to ask how you think it's toast when the narrative is still run 24/7 and people are still bragging about being vaxxed and boosted and younger and younger children are being injected with it.
Doesn't sound very "toast" to me.
Only about 37% of Americans got the booster. Why is that? Because most people have figured out that Safe and Effective is a lie.
There are more than enough people armed with the truth now, that the complete destruction of the 'safe and effective' narrative is imminent.
Anons are gonna do what anons do. Theres no changing that.
But but... He said he was a popular anon. He has authority... Somehow.
My guess is you're being downvoted bc you lost your handshake this morning, and now you're here, typing in ALL CAPS, telling us what to do and how to behave.
What livestream?
okay. But what does that have to do with this board? You're saying that JFKJR alive stuff makes you cringe when you see it on RSBN, if I'm understanding you correctly.
Because many of those livestreams get their information from this board.
It's spread through this board on several occasions, let's not try to pretend it hasn't towards newly non-handshake users.
^yup
Yeah. Who the fuck is this clown to tell us how to think and what to research.
Yeah. Don't get me wrong. Not saying they lost credibility. They simply have no authority because of their research.
I sort of agree with the sentiment, although I don't think it applies to this board, which is seen by very few normies anyway.
But it would help his credibility if he could at least spell "All right" correctly.
Substack Post: https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/psa-to-the-anon-community
"Anons in the community making asinine “decodes” like finding 765 spaces between the words in a random drop, dividing it by 17 and it equals 45, and that somehow means that all of Q is legitimate."
There's a place for this but it's on 8kun not on public message boards, IMO. All Clandestine means is that our job as digital soldiers is to awaken normies. Complicated coding won't do that - well maybe for a few but not overall.
Good stuff propagates, the rest dies off. Who cares what the media latch onto? they will make shit up anyway.
You dont tell people brainstorming to censor their ideas, you get them out and people score them. He hit big because his biolabs in Ukraine checked out, how do I know this? because I fact checked him like ten minutes after he posted it, using different sources, and it checked. Thats it. If it didnt he wouldn't be who he is.
Given that it was a stretch at the time, its a bloody good job he didnt self-censor.
here is that fact-check: https://greatawakening.win/p/141rsr21Wl/overlay-of-bbc-reported-explosio/c/
here is an overlay of a BBC explosion map and the biolabs in the old article mentioned above, which was a direct response/fact check of Clandestines post: https://greatawakening.win/p/141rsr21Wl/overlay-of-bbc-reported-explosio/c/
Guess what? I also do decodes that get hardly any traction, and some of them I would still standby. Here is a random example of a decode that got 64 upvotes here and nobody ever heard of https://greatawakening.win/p/12jcY0Dy3n/russia-announce-a-new-stealth-fi/c/
Do I care? is it normie friendly? no. Do I now have a podcast? no. again do I care? no. Does any of this mean I am to blame for the media harping on "Qanon" and the fuckwit in the horned helmet? no.
Clandestine cant shut-mouth about self censorship. ITS CALLED CROWD SOURCING.
Here is a decode where I predicted that WAR would be the SCARE EVENT. (Holy shit it got no love at the time, yet here we are in a UKRAINE WAR that has everyone shitting bricks. https://greatawakening.win/p/12i4DJrWJp/potus-gab-message--links-to-a-si/c/
DO I HAVE A PODCAST? no. Should I have self-censored the idea that a war would be the scare event? well there it is. I was right.
DO NOT SELF CENSOR.
Here is a wildly irrelevent decode from a year ago. WHO CARES? https://greatawakening.win/p/11SK2Wz8Lg/i-think-i-got-the-meet-the-press/c/
Nothing I do matters, But I am still going to carry on. I hit, I miss. NOBODY CARES.
I care and I want you to keep on posting. Anyone who attempts to guide or regulate this forum should be held back at a reasonable social distance. This isn't anyone's movement nor is it anyone's to regulate. While I have my differences with the mods at very rare times, they are doing a fantastic job of keeping the information free and respecting people's right to decide for themselves. Anons need to learn to do the same. If you are ashamed to be associated with anyone here, we're ashamed of you too.
A lot of names I’ve never read here seem to be overly upset by this post.
Some will have ventured Out Away or Into what clandestine has become. The rest are Normies or never will believers. Anons are necessary because without them there would be no yOU Clandestine. let the Chips fall where they may and do your Job and everyone else will do theirs. So Let it Be Written So Let It be done. WWG1WGA
No more fucking riddles
I agree completely. Love you guys but the cringe worthy stretches gotta stop.
No.
You like cringe posts?
I like a free exchange of ideas. And yeah some of the cringe is entertaining.
Fair enough. I do think we have an obligation to not ruin the message by going off the deep end though. Cheers
Lol but your username
Bravo, needed to be said.
Nah it really didn't.
Careful. He has the right to speak.
Yes he does. And I have a right to counter speak.
All good points, but any moron can post. (I'm from the voat days, remember "I'm getting hungry hombre?) It was so obnoxious. So downvote. Upvote stuff that rings true and checks out. We have a much wider audience now but shills are still gonna try and pollute our discussion and make us all look foolish. Downvote that. Upvote this post and other ones that are spot on. And for you newbies, Q already said that JFK Jr is dead.
Bio Clandestine got big on his bio lab drop, he's getting interviews and I'm sure peddling some kind of merch or sponsors. He's attacking Q cuz he knows it takes eyes off of him. Like Alex Jones and others. He sounds like CNN, you anons shouldn't try to decode drops or anything of the like, just follow him on his channels he's got the news. Too many paytriots looking to come out of this rich. They tell you the economy/dollar is tanking but still want your money and peddle their sponsors shit. Watch who you follow, always think for yourself, don't let these people alter your thoughts.
He didn't say, "you anons shouldn't try to decode drops or anything of the like"**
He said to use discernment so as to not turn off normies with otherwise ridiculous notions that have no context so that the end result is that we turn away someone who is on the brink of waking up. Big difference.
Fixed whatever asshat downvoted you for wielding sense. Discernment was my takeaway.
Lol...thanks, fren.
Yeah, I mean I see it all as sort of opening the door for normies. We're not supposed to go to the normies we know and just dump 4 or 5 years of info, satanic cults controlling everything, and all the other stuff in the first hour of broaching the subject of "something seems off".
I think the best tactic is to keep it grounded and relatable for normies initially. Even Q shot down some of the wilder well-known conspiracies, did he not?
Am I the only one at this point who’s done with normies? Sink or swim baby.
Personally, I think that 4-6% number was wishful thinking..
Possibly. Or we could have misunderstood what 4-6 means But at the same time I honestly think 4-6% is accurate in terms of the insanely rabid people. I think most of normie libs are arm chair warriors. If consequence became real ie you get arrested or tear gassed, they’d probably just stay home instead of stand up for their cause. And they’d easily change their mind when we got the microphone back. I don’t think the goal is to wait until everyone wakes up. Maybe just a critical mass. Hopefully we’ve reached it already.
Well, it seems like everything we're doing and waiting for is specifically for the normies.
How many times have you seen the argument that "things have to be this way so the normies can see Q is real/x person is evil/climate change is a myth/whatever else is being discussed".
I agree with you, but any time someone complains about the apparent lack of overall progress, there will be a large response of anons declaring that we have to wait for the normies to catch up.
Now, why we have to wait for all the normies to wake up before anything can be done is still a mystery. Because every anon that I've asked, who seems to be an authority on Q because they're always telling us why things have to be this way (again, for the normies to come around), has failed to give me a reason other than just because...
Theory, I think we needed to wake up a certain amount of normies but not necessarily wake up 94-96%. One for voting reasons but also to get enough people angry enough to run for office all across the nation.
Also possibly so anons don’t go back to sleep. It’s harder to go back asleep when you have a few friends that have same world views. Much easier to give up when it’s just you against the world.
He made a lot of attempts to establish himself as an authority. No thanks.
I guess for me, since I've only been around since 2020, he is an authority of knowledge that I'm still collecting and developing. I get what you're saying though and can certainly understand the sentiment for someone who has been in the know for much longer.
Yes. Not to misspeak, his credibility is still good. It does NOT grant him authority.
Right…good thing no one was there to police him on his bio lab theories before.
No one has authority in this movement. That's kind of the point. All we can do is speak our opinions and try to rally people to see our side in one thing or another.
There are a lot of really long stretches that don't really make a lot of sense, and we don't always need to give the highest exposure.
Things propagate quickly and rarely do you get to stop it after it has begun.
Discernment is good, and it is a good message to readers to discern more effectively too
Until today I've never even heard of the guy. I guess my takeaway from this thread is that we should exercise some common sense, and critical thinking
Half baked theory: all the bad guys are clones and everyone's already dead...
Truth: Q named the date and the moment of No names death because he was executed.
I don't think asking us to be better because the world is watching is a bad thing. Do what you will I'm not your keeper, I will mind my own business.
Massive amounts of clones replacing bad actors kills me to read.
Yep I think Joe Biden is being played by Joe Biden.
I do know that they can deep fake a lot of things though.
This one still amazes me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alc6R_UfPkc
And I think about that college interview back in 2020 that was supposed to be Hillary the woman had similar hair to Hillary and they even called her Hillary in the interview but the face was a woman much much older. I'm guessing it's a deep fake that went wrong. I truly hope Killary is in custody and under control of the good guys.
I also believe that Joe Biden is playing Joe Biden.
I don't see any evidence that proves otherwise. Dementia ages you severely, as does drug use. He got a face lift and there are artifacts from it that more readily prove that than anything else.
The ONLY weird thing was the time his nose melted
I still don't understand what the point is to replace someone with a clone/look alike, have them continue as normal, and then be critical of their actions.
Why did you get downvoted? oh well here’s my updooot.
Thank you. I didn't even see the downdoot. Its par for the evening lol.
"Half baked theory: all the bad guys are clones and everyone's already dead..."
Correction: 12% baked theory (nowhere near even half-baked)
Boom! This shit is CORRECT. Well done.
Holy crap, you read the post and that’s what you got out of it? His message is solid regardless of what you think of him. This site can be super cringe sometimes.
I completely agree with the main theme of this post, but...
The MSM will always make fun of Q followers, even if they have to make stuff up.
The Q-ridicule in the MSM might be real or fake, but it will always be there.
I think the best use of new Q drops is to see if they point us in a research direction that we have (so far) missed.
And, if you happen to notice that there are 17 US flags in a picture, mention it calmly, without flashing siren emojis.
But the flashing siren emoji is the best…conveys the habbening 🤣
Yawn
A theory is just that.
Avoiding it is avoiding research.
Bottom line, the MSM will always take bits and pieces and make it their own hit piece . That's their job.
Avoiding theorizing helps the main stream narrative. It in no way hinders it, because quite frankly, all of it sounds unbelievable to their audience anyway .
To quote the band formally known as Rage Against The Machine, "fuck you. I won't do what you tell me."
People getting turned off because of people's theories is their own problem, not ours. The expectation is that we share and exchange ideas. Freely. Not that we all agree. Someone sharing an idea, no matter how off the deep end, is essential to keep the flow of information free and abundant.
If you feel someone is wrong, explain why. But to outright throw them under the bus for the sake of public opinion is wrong. To attempt to dictate what people are and are not allowed to discuss is wrong. We don't need fickle public support. We never did. We are all of us free because we will it into existence every day not because the public allows it. The public can't even control taxes being taken out of their paychecks, they sure as shit have no control whatsoever.
So no. This is someone attempting to gain fame and drive the ship. The joke is on them. We aren't one giant ship, we are a fleet of many many smaller ships and that needs to be respected.
And my counter points are simply a check in this post. Obviously if anyone wants to jump on his train and follow him completely without question that is their choice. I follow mainly Jesus (and fail every day) and that's about it. Otherwise, man's authority must always be scrutinized and checked at every turn. Even mine and what little I have. All ideas are worth hearing, but all ideas are also subject to scrutiny.
Dear OP,
There is no hierarchy among anons despite how impressed you are with yourself, how long you've been following Q or how many times you've read every post.
Free speech is a two way street and anons are free to research whatever Q posts they like, however they like, without or without your permission or approval.
I don't recognize your authority to tell any anon what to do.
LOL. Talk about worst possible interpretation.
Seems to me that the OP was merely attempting to provide context for his comments. i.e. explaining that he is anon, and has been for the duration, but that he doesn't reference Q stuff because of his intent to create content that reaches to normies beyond the Q sphere.
That seems contextually relevant to me, because if people have been following OP and he has NOT been posting anything about Q content, then when he shares this, a legitimate response and question would be: "How come you are talking about Q and anons? Wtf do you know about Q and anons anyway?"
And, personal opinion here - feel free to disagree - you don't seem to give much value to wwg1wga. Your interpretation here certainly asserts bad faith on the part of the OP, and attempts to interpret the post in as bad a light as possible. IMO.
Case in point: do your job can be interpreted in dozens of ways as an expression of a dozen types of intent (elgl exhortation, encouragement, exasperation, etc) but you chose to interpret is as (authoritarian).
If you tell someone to stfu here (like Camaro is doing), should this be interpreted as being authoritarian, too?
I mean, I'd say feel free to disagree with the OP, but you're essentially attacking the OP, assuming and/or asserting bad faith, and acting like an outraged leftist. In my opinion.
This is a dumb take.
The people that do ridiculous things that discredit Q will continue doing them. None of them are listening to this guy.
Which means the best way to move forward is to proceed as we always have. It's fine if a bunch of us come out and legitimize Q and say the crazies are crazy. We are the news.
Enough of this cucky conservatism where we feel like we need to apologize to normies.
Normie can get fucked, we are winning without them and they will wake up regardless at this point.
This whole internal debate is retarded.
100 % agree with all the decode gymnastics by some, but I have more problems with paytriots who have unnamed sources, sorta like the MSN. That's gotta stop.
But… I saw a 17 on my way to work today.
Personal signs are always nice...
Even still, anons can think what they wish.
I can attest that some theories Anons talk about drive away normies. I was a normie who was critical of Q for years because all I kept reading was JFK Jr was alive. I didn't wake up until after the 2020 election theft, which led me to read the Q drops themselves.
Yet he's trying to make himself stand out and get all the attention...
Good.
I’ve never followed Q before the drops went dark. However I have always only considered myself as an “observer” and only during the scamdemic, that my awakening has evolved. So much so that I’ve endured what I would call death without dying. Everything was a lie while I was asleep. While this solitude way of life is sad and painful, it is also a relief, like Neo waking up. As an observer I’ve always exercised due caution as to what I share. I never delved too deeply with the decodes, because I’m nowhere near as smart as the artists anons out there. What I do however is share the result of their work in a normie friendly way without putting them off. For the first time in this fucking clown world, this month has been amazing for obvious revelations, I have hope. One of which is Q being back. And for the first time, today, I now realise that what I used to coin as msm or “mainstream media”, to me, is now “legacy media”. It is true. We are the news now. And for those who still cling to the propaganda, I really feel sad for them. I wish I could take them to this journey of truth. I’ve lost long term relationships because despite my efforts to show them the truth, they want to remain asleep. They openly do not want to see the truth, and even openly admit that it’s better to be ignorant about what is going on. I have separated from this person who I still love. The person I wanted to start a family with. Unfortunately the clutches of her friends all of whom are woke virtue signalling sleeping zombies is too strong. The comfort of pretending the evil we know does not exist is far too appealing and comfortable for some and they want to be that agent that gets plugged back in living life the way the machine wants you to leave, as long as they get their medium rare steak and red wine.
Anyway, sorry long response. Thank you for the reminder. WE ARE THE NEWS NOW. There is no longer an excuse for ignorance.
You don't have to go back to sleep to get along with others. But it's okay to take a nap from time to time. Good for you taking the crack pot and delivering it in a way you knew others would understand. THAT is the way forward.
Thank you. I’ve never intended or even entertained the idea of going back to sleep. But I’m overly cautious now and I expect I won’t have any genuine friendships here, and that’s fine. I’d rather be living in truth than pretend to be someone I’m not just so I can “fit in”. I obviously maintain a second “persona” for “work” purposes.
Kai, your not in Danistan, are you?
asking for a fren
Nope, Canberra here. How about you? Regardless, the clown fuckery is throughout the country, just at varying levels, which to me, is by design.
I'm in downtown Danistan. Well, on the outskirts, but it's still urban Danistan.
Was asking in case you were nearby....
Election fraud alone should prove many things.
Agree with this 100%. Just spread truth, data and facts. Telling people about Q is a major turn off instantly.
No. Screw self-censorship. The corporate media will make up and spread whatever lies they want regardless of how much we self-censor.
Correct.
First couple of comments… why is GC getting sore but after reading through all the back and forth you make a lot of good points. I always like your strong opinions, don’t always agree but I appreciate the countering voice.
At this point I’m done with normies and trying to convince them and blah blah blah. At this point it’s between them and the Holy Spirit.
Now that you told it, Salty Cracker probably has done more for our cause than many others.
Scientific method is what he is asking for folks. It is a tried and true form of reasoning and logical thought. If you see a pattern or clue, you analyze said "evidence", you generate a hypothesis about the pattern or clue. You then analyze the information and collect more data within a confined set of criteria to mitigate variables that can skew the results, you present your hypothesis with the pertinent data and your method of analyzing, testing and subsequent conclusion and submit to your peers for review. Any faults in methodology become apparent, if needed, you reevaluate the testing protocols and perform the test again to attempt to obtain more accurate data and then repeat as many times as necessary to obtain unassailable conclusions. This is the best way to provide solid theories and request additional research to verify the data you acquired is repeatable without any "statistics" and gymnastics to fit new data into the theory to make it match up with expected results. Jumping to conclusions is gymnastics, please leave gymnastics to PE and science in science classes.
There is truth to this because i saw some people get sad when Q posted again and it their head it created another zero day delta. The entire delta dates things has been a fabricated theory blindly embraced without much critical thought. “News unlocks the map”! Not datefagging
Just arbitrarily adding four years to a date to make a drop look like it was talking about today, yearning for a tiny morsel of relevance
So tragically desperate and unnecessary
"Future proves past"
And it's not a fabrication. You haven't done your research.
This post was long overdue. Now I'm gonna analyze it for numerical hidden messages.
i purged my telegram last year of a bunch of bs channels...i cant believe some of the stuff some people try to attach meaning to...its like they were sheep to the msm now they are sheep to the q movement....i cant tell you how often people post stuff on telegram or truth social and its like they dont even read the content of the article let alone take some time to research or do some critical thinking, .....i think some people definetly needed to hear this message but for the majority of us its business as usual, now back to work!
3 months ago Clandestine would've got banned here for posting the above...
I had a boss that used to say "know your audience"
This was on telegram, not here. We have more control here and shills & stuff get dealt with right away. And if someone has a question or a thought about something there's a conversation about it, it's not that way there.