Go watch reruns of Good Times and The Jeffersons to see some pictures of projects. They’re all over NYC and Chicago and such.
Allen Iverson grew up in one. There’s a great story somewhere about how a gang took it over and wouldn’t let anyone in or out, and his brother had to find a way to smuggle him out of the project to get him to a college.
Any emergencies like medic, police, child birth.... supply delivery, repairs to structure... MOVING. Are these geniuses dragging their furniture thru the streets?
These are the same dumbasses that buy one of those "small homes" an think living on a cot and showering with a hose will save the world.
Well - ultimately it may, but only because it is pooling all the weak in one area so they can be "removed" for survival of the species. I'm guessing their thought process didn't make it that far.
I play a simulation game called Cities:Skylines. You can build an area like this and ban cars, but you have to use pedestrian streets wide enough for cars to accommodate cops, fire, garbage trucks, and the coroner. You also have to have a freight depot area to receive all the goods. What cracks me up is that in game it’s always a problem getting enough goods into the area for the people that live there. Plus you have to provide enough schools and entertainment so they don’t move out. This city looks very similar to what can be built in the game. It’s creepy to see a video game brought to life so accurately.
If you want something like that, it can be done but not the same way they are showing you.
Hongkong has that, but you built up and the train go underground deliver freight with a huge elevators for transporting furniture. as far as fire trucks and ambulances, everything is going underground and when there's no electricity, you are sol so that is one major problem.
where have I seen these before? I know. They used to call them the 'projects'. They are everywhere. It appears that these particular projects have a grocery store in the basement. Great. The dummies that buy into this are just paying to live in them, as opposed to the free rent others get, because of racismz.
Move the middle class into overpriced apartments. Could you imagine living there? Looks like a prison. Just throw up a little razor wire. Gaza
Doesn't work well for either the elderly and the disabled who can't ride bikes and have mobility issues. You notice that all the video clips show young people? Pets and the aged not allowed.
I do want to urge people here to not throw out the baby with the bathwater when it comes to so called 15 minute cities. Obviously, when the WEF is promoting it they want to take the concept in their own direction so that they can more easily implement a lockdown.
But ALL cities used to be 15 minute cities before the automobile. Even US cities used to be walkable but then many city centers were demolished to put highways right through the centre.
There is nothing wrong for instance with changing zoning laws so that the suburbs can have a couple of supermarkets and some other services so that you don't have to get in your car and drive across town to do some simple chores.
Many American and Canadian teens are stuck in the suburbs and are dependant on their parents to drive them everywhere. I've read many stories of teens becoming depressed because of it.
Please consider, that when you put everyone in driving metal boxes, it will only increase traffic and it will cut people off from each other. Not to mention the giant cost involved with maintaining all the roads. Offer people different modes of transport to get where they need to go and life will be better for everyone, also for car drivers because you don't get as many idiots on the road anymore.
There are many people who don't want to dirve, but they have to drive to get anywhere. This is just poor urban design and it's dehumanizing.
Also the noise of cars is having a far more detrimental effect on our health then most people realize. Cars absolutely have their place and I couldn't do without one. I also would not want to live in a completely car-free neighbourhood, but we don't need cities where everything is build around the car.
You are so right. Both these "15-minute cities" AND car-based cities are manipulation. How 'bout the old way, before cars, when we had TOWNS??? Surrounded by farms and a few factories.
If you go to an old European village, the reason people feel so calm and are walking everywhere is because they were built with a human scale in mind, not car scale. So when a town is built prioritizing the car, then the distance becomes greater and you are forced to drive, making it more difficult to create connections to your fellow neighbors. People here are triggered by this new development because of the ongoing talk of 15 minute cities. I'd like to see the possibility of lanes for service vehicles and deliveries but the overall idea is not horrible. Remember cars got shoved down our throats thanks to Rockefeller lobbying.
Or higher. About seven(?) years ago the high reached 127 F for a few days. Then “cooled” off to 120 F or so.
This will crash and burn like everything else they do. Or maybe they built it in a place where it is destined to fail…to pill people on how ridiculous the concept is?
Yes then what are they gonna do with a useless piece of property like that. It will be full of drug addicts and illegal aliens. Or they’ll have to tear it down. Everyone in the surrounding area will regret ever buying a property near that location. get out while you can.
Walk, bike and carbon-free “rickshaws” of course. With “workforce housing” and “mixed use” planning, everything you need is downstairs for a price. There will simply be “cooling rest areas” for rent. Need a tool, rent it, need to move something, hire an “Urban sherpa”. Its an easy life, just hire and pay for everything... over and over again.
But paying for everything over and over again is monotonous and can be simplified by government designating certain select individuals and assigning them “meaningful work” such as Joe, as an area sherpa. His job is to move your shit when you want it moved. Pete, he is the chef and makes you a sandwich that Debbie will deliver to you. Hank cleans the “open space" because he seems adapted to that job. Lonnie, keeps the loaner bikes working. Nan does your laundry because she is not particularly good looking. You, you clean the shitters because we said so...
Good point. It can also be rather humid there. I'm not saying this concept is perfect but some parts are worth considering for dense urban area development. I lived in Albuquerque and the sprawl was so great that the development of public transportation had a real uphill battle and always sucked. Therefore more highways and cars were needed because of the lack of public transport. Then more time sitting on I-40 waiting to get home. The only way around this is to create villages where most needs are met, preferably connected to food production and nature. But nothing is perfect. I would probably hate living in that tempe village as it would probably be so woke.
Yes. That college turns normal Christian raised children into Lunatics. Take it from me I know. One day your child is going to college, and the next day they want to cut their boobs off. Yes, it’s a huge cesspool and a brainwashing clinic. No one gets out with their brain intact.
it will be worse, like NYC..where are the homeless people going to sleep? The govt will probably make the residents house these people. The drug dealers and criminals will be able to block that one exit/entryway and your choice of a pizza joint or chinese restaurant will not be a choice because there's only 1 available. Your local grocery store can charge crazy expensive prices without competition you either pay or starve. Just some examples of ALL the things that could go wrong.
Oh How about when there's fire... the whole damn city with the people in it will be burnt to the ground since fire will spread much quicker and not like anybody can take off in a car or anything.
The WEF 15 minute model bears no resemblance to what you are describing. Their model does not include porches and single family homes, just large high density condos, They are creating ZONES - meaning you will stay in your ZONE especially if you your credit score is bad. Horrible, dystopian nightmare and exactly what used to exist in Soviet Union.
Yep - that's why I said it's a distortion of the good. It combines elements of the good, historic model to entice people yet mixes it with nightmarish elements in order to deceive. I agree it is a dystopian nightmare.
Having been to European small towns that are very much laid out the same way, where things can be walked and it’s possible to walk the entire distance of the town to get to anything you need on foot, can confirm the niceness of not having to go everywhere by car.
It has to be organic though, as you noted. Best approach would be to trash zoning laws.
“In order to run a business, you must own not one, but TWO or THREE properties.”
Figure out a way to keep industrial waste under control with damages to impacted neighbors under this method, of course.
Thank you for a reasoned voice. This is not a 15 minute city. It's a development with no parking spaces. Totally different. And designing either one and building it from the ground up and the people literally buying into it is totally different from taking an existing area and forcing the residents to stay within it or pay fines if they should venture outside of it. Residents in those cases never agreed to such a deal, so it is authoritarian. Those situations are what we should get up in arms about.
When people call this a 15 minute city, they are conflating two things and the resulting confusion only serves the other side.
They probably have mailboxes off to the side somewhere, where are the drivers drop them off in the boxes. Like you see in front of a Circle K or something like that. Then you have to personally go pick up your package from that box. You know that’s how they’re going to do it. You just know it. That’s all deliveries will be handled. Grocery deliveries, Uber eats, etc.. can you imagine how disgusting everything will be in 115° weather - ewwww🤮
The comments are so obviously activists/agents of these genocidal/demonic elites. They're literally selling "ghettos" and "camps" again now as "environmental ". They told the jooos "safety". 🤮🤮🤮
When they were put on trains for concentration camps, they were told they were going to wonderful safe places where they'd be free from persecution.👺👺🤢🤮🤢🤮 History repeats itself and Anons/Historians are shushed/silenced/censored when we point out the most basic and obvious, to us, facts and events as repetitive. It's maddening.
How is it jail? People used to live without cars for thousands of years. Everyone here made a choice too live there, and according to the video, most of them already were not car owners.
Tempe is the home to my alma mater, Arizona State University, and therefore has the highest per capita group of communists in the state. It’s become more and more like Berkley. Not a surprise.
“Can you imagine living on top of your grocery store”???? No!! Places of food (grocery, restaurants) are all infested with cockroaches… depending how many you see is all about the level of containment they do… i wouldnt want my apartment being infested because of the store below
What does cul-de-sac literally mean?
bottom of a sack
The French cul de sac was originally an anatomical term meaning "vessel or tube with only one opening." It literally means "bottom of a sack," from the Latin culus, "bottom." Definitions of cul de sac. a street with only one way in or out.
Substituting convenience for restriction. BAAAAAAAAAAA!
Honestly this doesn't sound terrible to me. The obvious issue is that the communists will try to turn it into a prison. But many of Europe's great cities have large sections with few cars, everyone just walks in the old town, like they did before combustion engines were invented.
Also having everything close by makes it easier to be close with your neighbors, which is something that the West, particularly America, has lost touch with. When I was a kid all the neighbors knew each other, even in the city. As I got older, we moved and it changed. At some point I was living in an apartment building surrounded by people I didn't know, separated by paper thin walls and I thought "this is fucking crazy, why am I here" so I moved to a smaller town.
Go back 100 years and tell people you have this idea for a great new city where no one will have to walk or ride a horse. And instead of talking to each other they will ride by themselves in a car for 2 hours each day. If they want groceries they'll have to drive and buy preserved stuff shipped from halfway across the world. If they want exercise they'll drive to another spot.
I don't really like this Tempe development but it's worth thinking about what we currently have and are so eager to defend.
Have you ever live in a student community like a condo? I don't want to do it because the noise from the neighbors. That's the major problem. Another major problem is nosy neighbors. Do you want your neighbors to know everything about you?
I’m not surprised. This is in Tempe, Arizona, because the college is just down the street. However; people are not gonna be able to survive, riding electric vehicles around town in 115° heat. The look on that woman’s face is that of some type of a psychopath. Because I guarantee you… She has a car. Did anybody ask her if she lives there? Oh hell no she doesn’t live there. But Tempe is the perfect place to try this out because of all the college students an idiot that are being brainwashed at the college, into thinking this is a good idea. 😂😂😂😂😂
In 15 min cities like this where everything is closeby, you know what happened?
Gangs and criminals take over and that one store available to you will be blocked always with the bad people and you'll end up paying toll to them daily. 15 min cities is just another excuse to imprison you. The whole city will be run by one powerful gang and they'll do whatever they want and cops won't be able to keep up.
I saw buildings close to each other, small windows, not many windows at all, no balconies/decks, no parks, outdoor spaces... no plants, nowhere to plant a garden. all the outdoor space they showed was weird little plant things growing in a field of rocks on wooden trellises. The buildings are close together. How will furniture be moved in? How far do you have to carry the couch? As others have pointed out, what about UPS/FedEx/Amazon deliveries? What if you don't like the restaurant that the commune provides?
Bikes and scooters are great, however what if one of these young women becomes pregnant? She probably shouldn't be riding on a bike or scooter (before you start with "well I did!!" I was pregnant multiple times and there is no WAY I could have ridden either of these safely during any of them!)
I think in 1800 this maybe could have worked, however we live modern lives. People will move in thinking they are happy to have a modern hippie commune, however much like the tiny house movement, they will discover it's unrealistic to modern living and eventually move on.
For the record, I lived in a 457 square foot condo before I got married, and I lasted 5 years. Mostly because I couldn't afford to move out. It was not ideal and I was ready to have space and a yard when I finally moved out. It always sounds good to do these things, however reality is that it is NOT.
Having just begun to heal my broken leg, I cannot imagine living in this kind of place. No bike, no scooter, no walking. Try to live there with a significant mobility problem. No, it would mean death, or certainly a bad outcome of some sort.
Now that is a concrete jungle. The architecture is depressing, and the kindergarten artwork just adds to this instant slum.. No place for old people and kids. No ball parks. No dogs. No cats. No competition at stores, so prices are high and selection non existent. Can you imagine how hot that place will be in an Arizona summer? What if the bike mechanic is bad? How do they get the food trucks into that prison?
Don’t hate but this doesn’t bother me. If they want to live like that let them enjoy it I would never want to live in a city. Let them congregate in their spaces so we can enjoy our freedom away from them
I dislike the concept, especially because if it gets a foothold they'll push for this everywhere, but I'm not a city person so this isn't for me.
If city sheep want to live in each other's asses in their perfect little prison communities then let them. I'll be out in the sticks in my nearly 50 year old mobile home enjoying a huge lawn and privacy.
If you have a car, you can keep you car...it just has to be off-site somewhere. Hmm, that sounds familiar...
The people that move here are like the sheep at the end of the pen with the gate to slaughter house. They're thinking yaaah, we got in first!
Reminds me of the dumb people from the film Independence Day cheering on the Aliens right before the Alien ship blasts them to smithereens.
Oh right! They were very happy then.
Free migrant cars.
Exactly. LOL
Until a pandemic hit and you will see all of them like Stephen King's "The Stand." there at the 15 mins city.
They'll have nothing, and be happy.
So will politicians and celebrities be the first ones to move to these 15 min shitholes. Also stop flying your private planes.
Anybody else think this looks like “the projects.” Ghettos built in east coast cities in the 60s?
Never been there. Don't know.
Go watch reruns of Good Times and The Jeffersons to see some pictures of projects. They’re all over NYC and Chicago and such.
Allen Iverson grew up in one. There’s a great story somewhere about how a gang took it over and wouldn’t let anyone in or out, and his brother had to find a way to smuggle him out of the project to get him to a college.
Portland NW district.
Fire trucks
Any emergencies like medic, police, child birth.... supply delivery, repairs to structure... MOVING. Are these geniuses dragging their furniture thru the streets?
These are the same dumbasses that buy one of those "small homes" an think living on a cot and showering with a hose will save the world.
Well - ultimately it may, but only because it is pooling all the weak in one area so they can be "removed" for survival of the species. I'm guessing their thought process didn't make it that far.
LOL. I was thinking they moved them by pulleys and wheelbarrows.
They believe everyone will live there forever.
Exactly! Places to hang out with your friends but no way to even bring in construction material if, God forbid, you need to fix something someday. lol
If you needed a big truck, like to do a roofing job.
Burn to death. Didn't even think about that.
I play a simulation game called Cities:Skylines. You can build an area like this and ban cars, but you have to use pedestrian streets wide enough for cars to accommodate cops, fire, garbage trucks, and the coroner. You also have to have a freight depot area to receive all the goods. What cracks me up is that in game it’s always a problem getting enough goods into the area for the people that live there. Plus you have to provide enough schools and entertainment so they don’t move out. This city looks very similar to what can be built in the game. It’s creepy to see a video game brought to life so accurately.
If you want something like that, it can be done but not the same way they are showing you.
Hongkong has that, but you built up and the train go underground deliver freight with a huge elevators for transporting furniture. as far as fire trucks and ambulances, everything is going underground and when there's no electricity, you are sol so that is one major problem.
where have I seen these before? I know. They used to call them the 'projects'. They are everywhere. It appears that these particular projects have a grocery store in the basement. Great. The dummies that buy into this are just paying to live in them, as opposed to the free rent others get, because of racismz.
Move the middle class into overpriced apartments. Could you imagine living there? Looks like a prison. Just throw up a little razor wire. Gaza
Great comparison. I generally live in the county because of dogs except during college.
I bet you animals will not be allowed in 15 minutes cities.
Doesn't work well for either the elderly and the disabled who can't ride bikes and have mobility issues. You notice that all the video clips show young people? Pets and the aged not allowed.
Yes, the younger ones are easier to brainwash. Plus there’s a college down the street. Makes perfect sense.
I like my dogs so it's probably not happening.
Especially 2 or 3 big dogs.
Exactly what I just said to my dear husband! Paint on the sow's ear.
BTW, where do the elderly live?
They have a different plan for the elderly
we know what that plan entails
I do want to urge people here to not throw out the baby with the bathwater when it comes to so called 15 minute cities. Obviously, when the WEF is promoting it they want to take the concept in their own direction so that they can more easily implement a lockdown.
But ALL cities used to be 15 minute cities before the automobile. Even US cities used to be walkable but then many city centers were demolished to put highways right through the centre.
There is nothing wrong for instance with changing zoning laws so that the suburbs can have a couple of supermarkets and some other services so that you don't have to get in your car and drive across town to do some simple chores.
Many American and Canadian teens are stuck in the suburbs and are dependant on their parents to drive them everywhere. I've read many stories of teens becoming depressed because of it.
Please consider, that when you put everyone in driving metal boxes, it will only increase traffic and it will cut people off from each other. Not to mention the giant cost involved with maintaining all the roads. Offer people different modes of transport to get where they need to go and life will be better for everyone, also for car drivers because you don't get as many idiots on the road anymore.
There are many people who don't want to dirve, but they have to drive to get anywhere. This is just poor urban design and it's dehumanizing.
Also the noise of cars is having a far more detrimental effect on our health then most people realize. Cars absolutely have their place and I couldn't do without one. I also would not want to live in a completely car-free neighbourhood, but we don't need cities where everything is build around the car.
You are so right. Both these "15-minute cities" AND car-based cities are manipulation. How 'bout the old way, before cars, when we had TOWNS??? Surrounded by farms and a few factories.
If you go to an old European village, the reason people feel so calm and are walking everywhere is because they were built with a human scale in mind, not car scale. So when a town is built prioritizing the car, then the distance becomes greater and you are forced to drive, making it more difficult to create connections to your fellow neighbors. People here are triggered by this new development because of the ongoing talk of 15 minute cities. I'd like to see the possibility of lanes for service vehicles and deliveries but the overall idea is not horrible. Remember cars got shoved down our throats thanks to Rockefeller lobbying.
It’s 115° here in Arizona in the summer. How are people going to get around?
Or higher. About seven(?) years ago the high reached 127 F for a few days. Then “cooled” off to 120 F or so.
This will crash and burn like everything else they do. Or maybe they built it in a place where it is destined to fail…to pill people on how ridiculous the concept is?
We’re out in Apache Junction, where it’s a bunch of Boomers, with vehicles, more than one… Campers, preppers - and locked and loaded. 😂🤣😂🤣
Ur in the thick of it. My little town has more gun stores than grocery. Lol…
Lol! So true there’s a couple right down the street. Everyone out here has houses and property.
Btw….if ur looking for a great dog breeder (labs), Daisy Mountain Labs is the place to go.
👏👏👏
Yes then what are they gonna do with a useless piece of property like that. It will be full of drug addicts and illegal aliens. Or they’ll have to tear it down. Everyone in the surrounding area will regret ever buying a property near that location. get out while you can.
Agreed.
Walk, bike and carbon-free “rickshaws” of course. With “workforce housing” and “mixed use” planning, everything you need is downstairs for a price. There will simply be “cooling rest areas” for rent. Need a tool, rent it, need to move something, hire an “Urban sherpa”. Its an easy life, just hire and pay for everything... over and over again.
But paying for everything over and over again is monotonous and can be simplified by government designating certain select individuals and assigning them “meaningful work” such as Joe, as an area sherpa. His job is to move your shit when you want it moved. Pete, he is the chef and makes you a sandwich that Debbie will deliver to you. Hank cleans the “open space" because he seems adapted to that job. Lonnie, keeps the loaner bikes working. Nan does your laundry because she is not particularly good looking. You, you clean the shitters because we said so...
😂🤣😂🤣 Sherpas! 👏👏👏
So basically… Back to slavery again. 🤬
Slaves will not be permitted, but “designated meaningful work participants” or DMWP’s will be allowed as long as they are white...
😂🤣😂🤣
Good point. It can also be rather humid there. I'm not saying this concept is perfect but some parts are worth considering for dense urban area development. I lived in Albuquerque and the sprawl was so great that the development of public transportation had a real uphill battle and always sucked. Therefore more highways and cars were needed because of the lack of public transport. Then more time sitting on I-40 waiting to get home. The only way around this is to create villages where most needs are met, preferably connected to food production and nature. But nothing is perfect. I would probably hate living in that tempe village as it would probably be so woke.
👏👏👏
Yes. That college turns normal Christian raised children into Lunatics. Take it from me I know. One day your child is going to college, and the next day they want to cut their boobs off. Yes, it’s a huge cesspool and a brainwashing clinic. No one gets out with their brain intact.
it will be worse, like NYC..where are the homeless people going to sleep? The govt will probably make the residents house these people. The drug dealers and criminals will be able to block that one exit/entryway and your choice of a pizza joint or chinese restaurant will not be a choice because there's only 1 available. Your local grocery store can charge crazy expensive prices without competition you either pay or starve. Just some examples of ALL the things that could go wrong.
Oh How about when there's fire... the whole damn city with the people in it will be burnt to the ground since fire will spread much quicker and not like anybody can take off in a car or anything.
What the fuck are you sharing violence for? This has nothing to do with city planning ideas.
The WEF 15 minute model bears no resemblance to what you are describing. Their model does not include porches and single family homes, just large high density condos, They are creating ZONES - meaning you will stay in your ZONE especially if you your credit score is bad. Horrible, dystopian nightmare and exactly what used to exist in Soviet Union.
Yep - that's why I said it's a distortion of the good. It combines elements of the good, historic model to entice people yet mixes it with nightmarish elements in order to deceive. I agree it is a dystopian nightmare.
"Moms were home during the day" fixes a LOT of things, but they should still have access to cars and roads.
Having been to European small towns that are very much laid out the same way, where things can be walked and it’s possible to walk the entire distance of the town to get to anything you need on foot, can confirm the niceness of not having to go everywhere by car.
It has to be organic though, as you noted. Best approach would be to trash zoning laws.
“In order to run a business, you must own not one, but TWO or THREE properties.”
Figure out a way to keep industrial waste under control with damages to impacted neighbors under this method, of course.
Vroom Vroom 🏎️
If you know, you know. 👏👏👏
I would never live without my vehicle. Never!
I've got a twenty minute drive to the nearest milk. Used to have a mom and pop store a mile away by foot. Cars or not, it was actually convenient.
Ever considered life post emp? Hope you like horses.
I just lost braincells reading your reply.
Just because the automobile now exists, that doesn't mean we need to build our entire world around it.
Thank you for a reasoned voice. This is not a 15 minute city. It's a development with no parking spaces. Totally different. And designing either one and building it from the ground up and the people literally buying into it is totally different from taking an existing area and forcing the residents to stay within it or pay fines if they should venture outside of it. Residents in those cases never agreed to such a deal, so it is authoritarian. Those situations are what we should get up in arms about. When people call this a 15 minute city, they are conflating two things and the resulting confusion only serves the other side.
Looks like a volunteer prison.
Everyone on top of each other.
Best description I’ve seen yet!
So how do you get your amazon deliveries?
Drones
The deliveries, or the retards that live there?
The deliveries via drones have already been discussed. They are still trying to figure out how to bypass the windstorms and the battery problems.
Yeah, I was being sarcastic 😂
Drone delivery is a cool idea for sure. Never happen here in the south tho … red-necks and all that.
LOL. My dogs will get them first. They never leave the yard.
Can drones deliver TVs?
Not right now. Cannot deliver couch or bed or big furniture. My neighbor drives for Amazon.
They just drop them off on a corner street somewhere where the cars go!
They probably have mailboxes off to the side somewhere, where are the drivers drop them off in the boxes. Like you see in front of a Circle K or something like that. Then you have to personally go pick up your package from that box. You know that’s how they’re going to do it. You just know it. That’s all deliveries will be handled. Grocery deliveries, Uber eats, etc.. can you imagine how disgusting everything will be in 115° weather - ewwww🤮
If you want furniture in your cell you have to carry it in. If it won't fit on the narrow sidewalks then too bad.
Better be able to fit thru the doors.
The comments are so obviously activists/agents of these genocidal/demonic elites. They're literally selling "ghettos" and "camps" again now as "environmental ". They told the jooos "safety". 🤮🤮🤮
Oh yeah, didn't even think of that. You are right on.
When they were put on trains for concentration camps, they were told they were going to wonderful safe places where they'd be free from persecution.👺👺🤢🤮🤢🤮 History repeats itself and Anons/Historians are shushed/silenced/censored when we point out the most basic and obvious, to us, facts and events as repetitive. It's maddening.
History really do repeat
When they say community, they really mean internment.
Yes. The other word, soft jail.
How is it jail? People used to live without cars for thousands of years. Everyone here made a choice too live there, and according to the video, most of them already were not car owners.
People also used to have farms and horses. I bet you can't even have pets unless it is a single cat (no way they get dogs).
They won't let me be there. 2 big dogs right now. I like my 2 big dogs.
Tempe is the home to my alma mater, Arizona State University, and therefore has the highest per capita group of communists in the state. It’s become more and more like Berkley. Not a surprise.
Aah, commie stronghold.
“Can you imagine living on top of your grocery store”???? No!! Places of food (grocery, restaurants) are all infested with cockroaches… depending how many you see is all about the level of containment they do… i wouldnt want my apartment being infested because of the store below
Roaches
Because they can’t afford cars. Stay at home jobs. If you do have a car, it will be stolen by an illegal offsite.
Good explanation. I believe the part about stolen
Bland. Uninspiring. Probably full of cats. No thanks.
No dogs
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Great minds and all. Didn't see this until I hit send.
"Imagine living on top of your grocery store"
Like poor people do? Now all the bugs from the store can be yours too!
What does cul-de-sac literally mean? bottom of a sack The French cul de sac was originally an anatomical term meaning "vessel or tube with only one opening." It literally means "bottom of a sack," from the Latin culus, "bottom." Definitions of cul de sac. a street with only one way in or out.
Substituting convenience for restriction. BAAAAAAAAAAA!
Probably a great place for the elderly.
Until they can no longer get around and have to rely on deliveries. Oops.
Howls.
Honestly this doesn't sound terrible to me. The obvious issue is that the communists will try to turn it into a prison. But many of Europe's great cities have large sections with few cars, everyone just walks in the old town, like they did before combustion engines were invented.
Also having everything close by makes it easier to be close with your neighbors, which is something that the West, particularly America, has lost touch with. When I was a kid all the neighbors knew each other, even in the city. As I got older, we moved and it changed. At some point I was living in an apartment building surrounded by people I didn't know, separated by paper thin walls and I thought "this is fucking crazy, why am I here" so I moved to a smaller town.
Would you want that woman as your neighbor? She reminds me of the typical HOA president.
Now consider the rest of the people are probably the same...
Glorified prisons.
Go back 100 years and tell people you have this idea for a great new city where no one will have to walk or ride a horse. And instead of talking to each other they will ride by themselves in a car for 2 hours each day. If they want groceries they'll have to drive and buy preserved stuff shipped from halfway across the world. If they want exercise they'll drive to another spot.
I don't really like this Tempe development but it's worth thinking about what we currently have and are so eager to defend.
Have you ever live in a student community like a condo? I don't want to do it because the noise from the neighbors. That's the major problem. Another major problem is nosy neighbors. Do you want your neighbors to know everything about you?
No I don't want to live there. But lots of people live in apartment buildings and choose to do so.
In Oregon, you can only afford that or live on the street. I know about it.
Yeah. For me any city is a bad idea these days. I left for the far rural countryside and an doing my best to establish some independence.
Amen. You are smart.
I suppose not planting any trees is one way to reduce carbon footprint.
(reducing carbon footprint is cabal code for depopulation)
That's right. Easy sheep there in small space.
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I’m not surprised. This is in Tempe, Arizona, because the college is just down the street. However; people are not gonna be able to survive, riding electric vehicles around town in 115° heat. The look on that woman’s face is that of some type of a psychopath. Because I guarantee you… She has a car. Did anybody ask her if she lives there? Oh hell no she doesn’t live there. But Tempe is the perfect place to try this out because of all the college students an idiot that are being brainwashed at the college, into thinking this is a good idea. 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh, so dorm just like when I was in college.
Exactly - except further away from the college.
Hey I know her...there's like 100k of her in Portland.
Damn right.
In 15 min cities like this where everything is closeby, you know what happened?
Gangs and criminals take over and that one store available to you will be blocked always with the bad people and you'll end up paying toll to them daily. 15 min cities is just another excuse to imprison you. The whole city will be run by one powerful gang and they'll do whatever they want and cops won't be able to keep up.
Yes. Most third world countries are like that. You pay "protection fees." to the corrupt police.
Tempe (pronounced Tem-Pee,) is the home of Arizona State University and is just outside of Phoenix.
Thanks. Appreciate the info.
I saw buildings close to each other, small windows, not many windows at all, no balconies/decks, no parks, outdoor spaces... no plants, nowhere to plant a garden. all the outdoor space they showed was weird little plant things growing in a field of rocks on wooden trellises. The buildings are close together. How will furniture be moved in? How far do you have to carry the couch? As others have pointed out, what about UPS/FedEx/Amazon deliveries? What if you don't like the restaurant that the commune provides? Bikes and scooters are great, however what if one of these young women becomes pregnant? She probably shouldn't be riding on a bike or scooter (before you start with "well I did!!" I was pregnant multiple times and there is no WAY I could have ridden either of these safely during any of them!) I think in 1800 this maybe could have worked, however we live modern lives. People will move in thinking they are happy to have a modern hippie commune, however much like the tiny house movement, they will discover it's unrealistic to modern living and eventually move on.
For the record, I lived in a 457 square foot condo before I got married, and I lasted 5 years. Mostly because I couldn't afford to move out. It was not ideal and I was ready to have space and a yard when I finally moved out. It always sounds good to do these things, however reality is that it is NOT.
Dorm room for several years during college. I know what it means. End of hallways but still noise from neighbor.
So Favela but in AZ lol
LOL
Having just begun to heal my broken leg, I cannot imagine living in this kind of place. No bike, no scooter, no walking. Try to live there with a significant mobility problem. No, it would mean death, or certainly a bad outcome of some sort.
Get well soon. Use Comfrey to help speed the healing.
How will people with physical disabilities live here?
Not for anyone with wheelchairs. Won't fit.
It looks like fire trucks may have a problem as well.
Oh yeah. Fire trucks will definitely have problem.
You have to be a complete idiot to live here.
Make do when you have to, but I like my dogs and I don't like the noise from the neighbor when I was living in the dorm.
Now that is a concrete jungle. The architecture is depressing, and the kindergarten artwork just adds to this instant slum.. No place for old people and kids. No ball parks. No dogs. No cats. No competition at stores, so prices are high and selection non existent. Can you imagine how hot that place will be in an Arizona summer? What if the bike mechanic is bad? How do they get the food trucks into that prison?
This is in Tempe, home of Arizona State University.
This is for college students, not adults with jobs and an adult life to live.
Yes. I used to live somewhere like that when going to school.
MBBGA - so we are making Bucket Brigades Great Again? These people are stupid! No fires trucks ambulances or police- what could go wrong?
LOL.
Don’t hate but this doesn’t bother me. If they want to live like that let them enjoy it I would never want to live in a city. Let them congregate in their spaces so we can enjoy our freedom away from them
I dislike the concept, especially because if it gets a foothold they'll push for this everywhere, but I'm not a city person so this isn't for me.
If city sheep want to live in each other's asses in their perfect little prison communities then let them. I'll be out in the sticks in my nearly 50 year old mobile home enjoying a huge lawn and privacy.
Yes. I like to go to some nature and forests where the dogs can run. Not for me.
I used to live in apt and didn't like it due to noise. Cars were very expensive to park.
Looks like whitewashed alleys.
Hong Kong.
Reminds me of ridiculous fashion designs walking down the runway,
Yes, and also Europe. Fez in Morocco is one.
Morocco is in Africa btw :)
Italy has lots of places like this, but then they also built small cars to navigate them.
Personally, I wouldn't trust people on ebikes not to run down pedestrians on those narrow lanes.
Oh I know. I never been to the Middle East. I know some of the small places in Spain and N Africa.