"How does one follow Q but not believe in the loch ness monster? Its like being a baker but refusing to make custom gay cakes, it makes no sense and" blah blah..
That's what I found some of the other comparisons to be. Believing Q but not chem trails would be more akin to "I believe in Christ, but not the Nicean Creed.". It is possible and valid, even if the two often go together.
Yeah exactly, that’s the thing. How the fuck can one have full faith the point of MODDING a Q board but make the claim chemtrails are a retarded conspiracy theory?
It’s like if someone was a super vegan health nut but owned a burger king.
You get what I’m saying? It just doesn’t make sense.
Chemtrails are a fact.
Governments around the world are openly spraying the skies to try to control the weather, like in Croatia and many other countries where the gov sprays thunderstorms with silver iodide to prevent wildfires.
Then there’s the more sinister theory that governments are spraying other stuff to control the population, using both mil and civ aircraft.
No, I don’t have any evidence for that, and I see many people are using the first part as proof of the second part.
I’m pretty sure commercial aircrafts are not being used, too many people would be in the knowing to contain it.
Do they spray to control us? I don’t know, but as everything else I try to keep an open mind.
And remember: 0 Qpost(s) found containing "Chemtrails".
Fine, I get that geoengineering is a thing and exists. I'm just trying to understand what chemtards think is happening with 60 planes are high altitude spraying chemicals. Who's doing this? Commercial airlines? Or a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations specifically mentioned in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
I don't really agree with the extra inflammatory rhetoric, but I do also agree with catsfive that this isn't the board for it unless we see something Q related with it.
It's not bad to drive relevant traffic to their respective .wins either, as that helps build up their communities and gets the entire network more traffic
It's not a Q matter. Closest I have on it is listing the words "AIR" and "CHEMICALS" in close proximity in #1010: "... YOUR VOICE DOES NOT MATTER.
PHARMA [CLAS-D]
WATER
AIR
CHEMICALS PUSHED FOR HOME USE CLEANING [CANCER][BABY ON FLOOR-HANDS IN MOUTH - THE START].
VACCINES [NOT ALL].
TOBACCO.
OPIOIDS.
ULTIMATE WIN [DEATH + MONEY].
THE FED.
ROTHSCHILD.
'CONSPIRACY' ...." Hat tip u/LibtardsGotTrumped.
While so-called "geoengineering" is admitted, the pharmaceutical industry is much worse for us and much more Satanic. (Revelation describes pharmakeia as a mortal sin.) My personal feelings that the 7 Florida hurricanes of 2004-2005 may have been strengthened by the "scout helicopters" constantly overflying them are irrelevant because largely unprovable. Similarly, looking up and believing you are seeing chemtrails is a confirmation bias. Finding reports on how much aluminum someone admits dumping, well, that's research and might be interesting, I'd love to see that at Conspiracies. Oddly, all the links I see in this thread and the prior only work if you already believe the theory.
Here's some more unimportant stuff you don't care about to get us back on the rabbit-hole track.
Post 1010 was dated 4/4/2018. "The Khan Shaykhun chemical attack took place on 4 April 2017 on the town of Khan Shaykhun in the Idlib Governorate of Syria. The town was reported to have been struck by an airstrike by government forces followed by massive civilian chemical poisoning" (Wikipedia, citing sarin).
Post 1113 (4/9/2018): Anon: "Did anons ever figure out what Q meant with the 'BABY ON FLOOR-HANDS IN MOUTH - THE START' Was this Syria FF?" Q: "Finally. Chemicals. Learn our comms. Q".
What is 5:5? The most common chemical with "5,5" in the name is (1,3-dimethylol-)5,5-dimethylhydantoin, listed on shampoo and conditioner bottles as DMDM hydantoin (Glydant), which works by releasing formaldehyde. That seems a much better fit to both Q and my comment that pharma is worse than chemtrails!
(If I don't repost this on the next chemtrail thread, please do it for me.)
Yeah. Now prove they're spraying everywhere, using commercial aircraft, like chemtards say.
EDIT: Thanks for letting me know. I'm really genuinely trying to figure this out. People I listen to, podcasts, etc., really smart people, they talk like chemtrails are real. I worked in operations training at a major Canadian airline for a few years. I've literally documented a plane coming in and documented them taking it apart in what's called a B-check. It's insane what they do. I watched the plane roll in on a revenue flight (with passengers) and then go straight to the hangar for maintenance. Are chemtrail people telling me someone comes in and takes apart/away the "sprayer" systems, or something? I'm trying to understand how this supposedly works.
NO ONE ANSWERS THIS QUESTION for me. They just downvote and move on.
Pretty easy to tell the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail. One is miles long and lasts for hours, and the other dissipates pretty quickly. Calm down, dude. You believe the world is run by satanic pedophiles, but chemtrails are ridiculous? In the words of Mr. Biden "c'mon man!".
I can tell you as a child, every contrail dissipated. Something changed around 2000 and on. Having a sky full of a grid like pattern is something I would have remembered as a kid. DID NOT EXIST. I am not retarded, just observant.
This is also the part I find most compelling. I used to watch aircraft quite a bit as a kid in the 80s and 90s and like you I remember the contrails ALWAYS dissipated quickly. There were never lines in the sky that persisted for hours, not like what we have today.
I'm not saying chemicals are being sprayed because I have no idea, but I do agree that what we're seeing now aren't contrails.
Yes I did. Made me giddy! Look kids, puffy clouds!! I've never really gotten to play cloud watching games with my kids because vit almost always looks like hazy, stripey blah.
The airplanes now fly at higher altitudes, bonehead. Lower pressure, lower absolute humidity, longer contrail persistence. I see this all the time and I live south of a major international airport.
I watch the sky daily because I work outside and actually take the time to notice.
During Trumps first year there were NO chemtrails in my part of the sky!
NONE. Clouds were different and there were actually disappearing contrails! Gave me a feeling of nostalgia where I would remember seeing this daily as a kid.
You will never have me believe that this is some type of atmospheric condition where temperature, pressure and humidity just completely changes because Trump was elected.
We had a springtime that lasted for several months where the temperature gradually went from cold to hot instead of the usual immediate cold to hot.
Jan 21st they were fucking back!
Same with ritual satanic pedophilia. Bunch of rumors and symbolism mostly.. but it is pretty compelling though, once you look at all the circumstancial evidence.
There is plenty of evidence leading to both, but to this day I have only heard rumors and conjecture.
To quote Hanz Landa "I love rumors!!! Facts can be so misleading, but rumors are often quite revealing!"
I entertain conspiracy theories, and I have jumped down a rabbit hole through a psyop before and it's too explainable to be untrue. There are too many reasons they may want to spray things in the air from weather manipulation to 3d imaging tech. Flat earth is obviosly a psyop because it is obviously created as an appeal to ridicule. "You believe in Q?? You must be a flat earther too!" Same with Alex Jones. He plays a buffoon for a reason... you get to know the patterns
I'm a mod here and this is precisely fucking why. This movement would be better off without these fuckwits. We research. We bust our ASSES to be right about things. This just makes us look like fucking loons and I'm sick of it.
Being unable to prove it's being done on a commercial scale, but, "people believe it," so, it's therefore true is the part that's mentally retarded, fren.
I’m sure a lot of people on here have spent time researching this topic and speaking with people about it, so there’s probably tons of users on both sides of the argument.
The problem with your post is that it just calls the conspiracy theory “Utterly mentally-retarded”, but does not even link to anything that would prove your opinion to be correct. All it’s doing is belittling the users that agree with the Chemtrail conspiracy theory, for no apparent reason.
Really a bad judgement call as a Mod I think, to circle a topic back to another topic of users arguing, about more distracting things.
That was indeed a problem. This post has, however, developed a second problem—every time I ask for a link of your assertions, y'all downvote and bail. Go ahead, skim this thread. Not ONE link from a legitimate source (and I don't mean MSM, either).
Good advice. But, psst, one small thing. We're on the Q board, supposedly among the best researchers and decoders on planet Earth. Skim this thread. Why are my requests for any sort of proof that commercial aircraft are chemtrailing? Hmmm...
OK. I figure it would have to be military. But, that would be a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations claimed specifically in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? That's 180 aircraft there alone. So, look it up? That's enough aircraft for five full-staffed AFB's. Look it up where? Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
Yeah, they have only talked about owning the weather since like '96.
The use of arosels combined with VHF & ULF wave lengths, used to heat or cool the ionosphere. Is a very real technique. They didn't take those frequencies off the "air" for your digital viewing pleasure... They took them off, to conduct experiments..
The earth is not Flat, but Weather Modification is very real.
Link from Air force Report, owning the weather by 2025.
I've noticed chemtrails coming from unmarked white planes at a particular altitude. They spray in a gridlike pattern one after another. It's very methodical. I never saw anything like it growing up. It would have freaked me out and I would have remembered.
How are heavy metal salts getting into the snow at the top of Mount Shasta? These chemicals are matched to the geoengineering patents people are referencing.
Read the entire article. OK, the medical science is settled. I'm not disputing that. Where is he explaining HOW it's being sprayed, constantly, all the time? I listen to Q podcasts and legit researchers I respect are saying "They're spraying a lot around here." But, that would be a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations claimed specifically in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? That's 180 aircraft there alone. So, look it up? That's enough aircraft for five full-staffed AFB's. Look it up where? Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
Have you not heard of Evergreen International Aviation? It's a well known CIA contractor, even wikipedia knows that.
A whistleblower came about about 10 years ago and said regarding Evergreen in the 90s:
During his time at the facility he was involved in retro fitting 727 and 747-c aircraft with liquid discharge tanks and aerosol sprayer devices"
Another whistleblower came out a few years ago saying the official name of the project is Operation Indigo Skyfold- he talks about the bases:
Evergreen, before it's owner sold it off, had 4,500 employees on record and operated out of 100 bases. I'm sure the operation rolled over to new managers. Deep state was all over Evergreen like white on rice.
But the name Evergreen got me to thinking about Qpost 3856
The lines are drawn.
[Zw7301-&vQ-00-00-03]
Define Renegade [Hussein USSS code name].
Standard definition.
Define Evergreen [HRC USSS code name]
Non-standard defintion.
Think depopulation.
The Silent War continues…
Q
produced by G. Edward Griffin who wrote The Creature that Came from Jekyll Island, and brought the truth of the Federal Reserve out. Griffin has also been talking about the New World Order since the 1960s in a public way.
Military aircraft chem trailing - love the part at the end where the "trail" just stops. I've seen it where it stops, then starts again, leaving a gap. Or they just run out of material and head back to where they come from with absolutely no white stuff coming out the back.
Video by:
Dane Wigington has a background in solar energy. He is a former employee of Bechtel Power Corp. and was a licensed contractor in California and Arizona.
His personal residence was featured in a cover article on the world’s largest renewable energy magazine, Home Power. He owns a large wildlife preserve next to Lake Shasta in Northern California.
I've seen it where it stops, then starts again, leaving a gap.
Yeah. Those are fronts. The upper atmosphere isn't uniform. Do you ever watch the weather forecasts? That's what those "ridges" those fronts are. You can see these phenomena here, for instance. The plane is flying through tubes of low/high/low pressure, causing the contrail to start/stop/start.
I have basic meteorological knowledge. Have taught it to children. Your picture is absolutely like nothing I showed you. My favorite is when they turn arguing and fly through the same space with no trail. Was no ridge.
There is 21 trillion dollars missing in the DoD. Not hard to imagine some of it is being applied to this program off the books. We did have several months here in the Nashville area about a year ago with no chemtrails, only contrails. It was magical.
My picture lacks the altitude, yes, but it's driven by the same pressure high/low/high. What's more 'basic' than that? You know, that thing you taught to kids.
Looking for something beyond "not hard to imagine," mate.
I will have to respectfully disagree. There are specific patents and instruction manual of best practices for these things already. Doesn't matter what name you use but people are definelty spraying chemicals into the air with intent to cause changes.
I'm not saying that the concept of "spraying substances in the sky" is stupid. I'm saying that when chemtards see an aircraft flying across the sky, they point to the contrail and claim that as evidence that they are spraying us.
I am a pilot and student of history and science, i can tell the difference between the two. Can you? The first step towards the truth is just noticing they are different. We can argue about why, if you like, but I see two different kinds of trails in the sky.
I have noticed that telling does not help when it comes to Q or things that bring cognitive dissonance. There have been new kinds of clouds ""discovered" during the last 30 years, start looking there. In the spirit of things, though, among the first formations I started to notice look like long white contrails that span the sky and seem to develop little caterpillar legs as they spread into a haze.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/16/science/16CHEMTRAILS/16CHEMTRAILS-superJumbo.jpg
Edit to add that I wanted to put a picture of an actual contrail here but it is surprisingly or perhaps not surprisingly hard to find one. If anyone can post a picture for Catsfive of an actual short lived contrail I would appreciate it, I am about to go afk. Thanks!
u/catsfive is arguing in bad faith. they know the difference and are trying to force the opinion down everyone's throat via stickied threads and comments, that have nothing to do with Q research.
it's pretty sad tbh, seems to be running interference for some reasos
Also: While I don't really know much about chem trails in general or even know what to believe, I'm pretty sure that the elites very recently talked about using them to shade the planet from the sun to "counter climate change"
It's true and I'm sorry about that, actually. I should apologize, especially as a mod. I would consider chemtrails to be my achilles heel. I worked in the airline industry for years. The idea that they're secretly spraying on us is ridiculous.
That's exactly what this post is. I get that geoengineering is a thing and exists. I'm just trying to understand what chemtards think is happening with 60 planes are high altitude spraying chemicals in their neck of the woods. Who's doing this? Commercial airlines? Or a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations claimed specifically in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? That's 180 aircraft there alone. Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
Well places like Oregon have been caught doing this with lithium and other chemicals. Just saying. I don't think "EVERY PlaNe THatT HaS a TRaiL" is doing it. I just know that it has happened, and wouldn't surprise me if it still occurs some places.
Here is the NASA admittance article. The local news never made it to the web that I know of. It is just well know by people who were reporting this. The local "spraying" was done as a study on a smaller scale to see how it affected people more dramatically as best I can find. No direct sources on that. But why would there be?
Thanks! Now this is what I'm talking about. Except, one thing, ummm... has this been covered anywhere else other than www.OhMyGodChemtrailsAreReallyReallyEvil.com?
FROM YOUR LINK: These are high wind experiments launched by rockets, not seeded by aircraft.
I read that about Q the other day. Just some wakos online talking about space lasers and stuff. Q didn't mention chemtrails. But nasa talks about doing what the locals all claimed on a larger scale. So make your own mind up. You are acting like CNN talking about "QAnaon" right now. If its not real to you, why do you CARE?
catsfive sounds like a typical know it all redditor who builds up straw man arguments that no one made and knocking them down.
they are a fucking MOD on a Q forum, and trying to shit on absolute facts that cannot be refuted with any comment except for "HUR DUR WHERE DOES IT SAY EVERY AIRCRAFT IS SPRAYING US LIKE EVERY SINGLE CHEMTARD SAYS!!!" then proceeds to google ww2 bomber contrails for proof.
u/catsfive has done what they were complaining about on a bigger scale, and brought more attention to it. almost seems like it was done intentionally. if they wanted to look retarded and get everyone to actually show the proof, good on em'
Facts? What facts? All y'all do is bail like losers when I ask the real questions. So, OK, let's go, then:
Let me get this straight: You're saying all contrails disappear, but if they have the chemicals being sprayed, they persist in the sky? You're saying that contrails always disappear, unless they have chemtrail chemicals in them?
Ludicrous.
What's doing the spraying in your theory, the engine? Or secondary systems unrelated to the engine, but on each aircraft, designed to look like it's coming from the engine, i.e., four trails from a 747/380, two from, say, a 737?
I have personally taken apart a 737 engine. Nothing spraying in there. At all.
I have personally taken apart a 737 wing. Nothing spraying in there, either.
Well? Were the bombers that were making PERSISTENT contrails also chemtrailing?
This .WIN is being inundated with chemtards this past week, and the mod team is noticing. What I've done is draw all you out into one thread, where I want to understand what the evidence you think you have looks like. What happens instead? Downvotes, and silence, which is pretty much to be expected when presented with these legitimate questions.
In the documentary, What in the World are they Spraying, PhD scientists take soil samples from t and snow samples. They find 61000x the upper limit the EPA has set for Barium on top pf Mount Shasta. The soil samples showed the alkalinity of the soil was too high. Check out the patents for aluminum resistant crops. Looks like they plan to make sure you can only buy seeds from them, because heirlooms won't be able to grow.
If you're frustrated by not getting links to your satisfaction, understand that most of us processed this information 10+ years or so ago and have moved on. Much of it is aggregated on geoengineeringwatch.org.
OK, fine, but chemtrail adherents are saying chemtrails are happening nationwide. Got a blanket of snow samples supporting these levels in, say, a dozen other areas of the country? I'm TRYING to prove chemtrails. But the data required is being driven by YOU with your claims, not me asking for evidence to support those claims.
Wrong. We're saying it's happening worldwide. The pH of the soil is changing, even in remote areas away from industry.
Not sure what all your saying, but I do have a degree in engineering and know I am not a retard.
As a Tennessean, we are a conspiracy minded bunch because Oak Ridge was a secret city that employed thousands and a large cost, but know one knew of its purpose. It's going to be interesting going forward if we are victorious over the plan to salt the earth, what you all are going to say when we have day after day of glorious chem trail free skies.
No, but there are some examples on Dane's site under the tab Labs. I have not taken the time to crowd-source massive sampling of the continent, personally. But I think it all adds up when you look at GMO seeds and the tree die offs that are happening, especially out west.
Also, Aluminum is an accelerant, which would make those western wildfires bigger than we saw prior this controversy.
And what did you see? Moisture from the engine immediately condensing ....
Science lesson.....” Between 30,000 and 40,000 feet (9,000 and 12,000 m), the cruising altitude of most jet aircraft, air temperature ranges from -40° F to -70° F (-40° C to -57° C).”
You say you “know what you saw” when you also admit, “ No clue what it was”
She saw stratospheric aerosol injection here is your best friend ol JB telling us all about it https://youtu.be/WSb59XLxU24 but I guess this is explainable too huh!?
Not scientifically, you dont... unless you took a sample from the vapor cloud itself and had it analyzed, you're literally just GUESSING. An unscientific guess.
Wrong.... “Between 30,000 and 40,000 feet (9,000 and 12,000 m), the cruising altitude of most jet aircraft, air temperature ranges from -40° F to -70° F (-40° C to -57° C).”
Yes.
That was easy.
If someone’s best claim is “Florida sky's don't freeze but they got chemtrails..”, their grip on the facts and evidence is about as limp as their handshake.
Normal contrails can take hours.....it’s very small ice particles...frozen vapor. Would chemicals being sprayed not freeze too? Where does stuff released at 40,000 in the jet stream wind up?
Because you know airliners only carry 10 people, no cargo, and 75,000 pounds of chemicals to spray.... on their flights over 95% rural country side, wilderness, and open ocean.
Hey Cats, you are not a gatekeeper of truth. You cynical old fart. You are so haughty it’s sickening. Listen to this if you have any integrity left in your pea sized wrinkled brain. https://youtu.be/WSb59XLxU24
Can confirm. I want to discuss this. I see it mentioned all the time lately and I want to have it out. I won't ban anyone or excessively make fun of anyone here. I just want to talk about it.
I've un-stickied this topic because I just want to talk about it. For some reason, it's a topic that really pushes my buttons.
Because THIS is exactly how the CIA's "consensus cracking" works. This what I'm trying to figure out. The board was Q-focused until about a week ago, when suddenly, we're stuffed with chemtrail retards. I won't have it.
I appreciate your willingness to not let other (well, questionable) conspiracies contaminate one that we all see massive evidence for and importance of, and for which the board was explicitly set up.
Additionally, quit stickying shit about what to think. This is a research board where we discuss theories. If you start telling me what to think, I'm out of here
Not what I'm doing. I know I've been a real stickler for post quality, however, so, your point is not lost on me. It's a tough line for a mod. Thank you for understanding. It's being mentioned a lot lately, so I'm trying to give the community a chance to collectively see where we stand with this.
Wait, no one is saying that the concept of spraying chemicals from planes to modify global weather is a stretch. But showing off a few patents and spraying planes is not proof of a global-scale chemtrail program run via commercial aviation.
Heck, I happen to live in the epicenter for hail damage. Nowhere in NA gets more hail damage than here. Recently we had a hailstorm that did MILLIONS in damage across the city. I watch the spraying plane on my FlightRadar24 app all the time. But that's not the same as a global chemtrail program.
Catsfive is correct.....sure spraying to seed clouds happens, more often in China like when they had the Olympics....the air quality sucks so bad there that they need to seed a lot to get the pollution out of the air.
However, if you see a contrail.....is it more likely a normal consequence of a jet engine or spraying chemicals? Besides, if the goal is for the particles to reach the ground and affect people....all people, or just in the United States?
There would be no accurate way to know long the particles would hang in the upper atmosphere and where they would actually fall. Reference how far much heavier dust from a volcano travels.
There are different reasons for sure....create rain for a drought....or cleans the air.....just like pollen is washed from the air after a rain.
Yes, pollution sinks and sits lower in the atmosphere.....they spread seed particles higher up....the water vapor latches on and make clouds....the clouds grow.....rain falls above the pollution.
“ China can influence the weather. As the allegedly largest rainmaker in the world, China should theoretically be able to lower the overall pollution levels since rain contributes to lowering air pollution levels. Rainmaking uncovered.”
OK, but this is exactly what chafes my hide so much. I get "sounds plausible, you know they'd do it to us" and no evidence whatsoever. Apparently, that's where the doors open and all the chemtrailers step off the train. That should tell us something. But apparently it doesn't.
Repeating from above because u/NotAPuma wins the award for linking chemical attack with Syrian sarin! Post 1010 included "... YOUR VOICE DOES NOT MATTER. PHARMA [CLAS-D] WATER AIR CHEMICALS PUSHED FOR HOME USE CLEANING [CANCER][BABY ON FLOOR-HANDS IN MOUTH - THE START]. VACCINES [NOT ALL]. TOBACCO. OPIOIDS. ULTIMATE WIN [DEATH + MONEY]. THE FED. ROTHSCHILD. 'CONSPIRACY' ...."
Post 1010 was dated 4/4/2018. "The Khan Shaykhun chemical attack took place on 4 April 2017 on the town of Khan Shaykhun in the Idlib Governorate of Syria. The town was reported to have been struck by an airstrike by government forces followed by massive civilian chemical poisoning" (Wikipedia, citing sarin).
Post 1113 (4/9/2018): Anon: "Did anons ever figure out what Q meant with the 'BABY ON FLOOR-HANDS IN MOUTH - THE START' Was this Syria FF?" Q: "Finally. Chemicals. Learn our comms. Q".
What is 5:5? The most common chemical with "5,5" in the name is (1,3-dimethylol-)5,5-dimethylhydantoin, listed on shampoo and conditioner bottles as DMDM hydantoin (Glydant), which works by releasing formaldehyde. That seems a much better fit to both Q and my comment that pharma is worse than chemtrails!
To avoid the hydantoin rabbit trail, I note that "5:5" appears in many posts and in 2548 seems to be a synonym of "Comms understood?", a phrase also used repeatedly in different forms. It doesn't come up in searches for jargon.
Its really quite simple, if you want to poison the people, put chemicals in the sodas and other beverages. The strong flavors will mask most chemicals, and you can actually get an effective dose after dilution.
Spraying the open country side from 45,000 feet is just bat shit. They could be dropping saren nerve gas, and at that altitude it wouldn't affect anybody.
There is a reason when they doused the jungle with Agent Orange they had planes fly low over the tree tops.
I'm glad someone said this. I would NEVER act like that. This is YOUR site, guys. I run the .WIN mod team, but IMO I don't "own" the .WIN. To me, Q is our boss. I try to conduct myself each and every day such that I would be able to stand in front of Trump and say, "Sir, I stayed on message and supported the mission." I would NEVER ban someone for participating in a thread like this, which I've basically said is a safe space to discuss something like this. But, this is getting mentioned all the time lately. I used to never see it, now I see it all the time. I want to give the community a chance to get it out of its system and collectively decide where we stand with this.
Because he clearly made this insulting and knew jerk post clearly because he disagrees with a theory and was pissed, and then tried to make an excuse to make that look noble and "for the betterment of the community." No one is buying it. Capt you apparently.
Conspiracies.win - that community could be really awesome with proper energy behind it.
Everybody should be welcome here, but the focus is Q and geopolitical events related to Q.
I'm assuming Patriots.win is where we go to start mounting political action against an illegitimate administration and the corrupt apparatus that enabled them in the first place.
Can confirm. Everybody is welcome here. I have been seeing chemtrails mentioned a lot in comments lately and wanted to get a sense of what everyone is thinking. Thanks for understanding.
If this is a genuine comment, then you might want to admit that you failed miserably.
Your Post title, in no way, provides that welcoming feeling, nor does it suggest that you care about getting a sense on what everyone’s feeling about the topic.
How about this? I agree with you. Sorry. Welcome to humans, I suppose. This whole thing came from me asking questions in a different thread, actually, where chemtrails were being asked. So I ask, "What's your best proof of them doing commercial-scale spraying?"
crickets
Skim this thread. NO ONE is stepping up to answer Apparently, that's where the doors open and all the chemtrailers step off the train. Apologies, but that pisses me off, especially when it's my job to protect the TRUE Q researchers and decoders around here. The chemtrail thing makes us look like loons, and I'm not going to stand for it.
true contrails dont last for minuets to hours after the plain is gone, that shit dissipates almost immediately after the plain, A TRUE CONTRAIL, that is, all you see these days IS chemtrails
during WW2, German military figured out to watch the contrails to get a hint on where the Allied bombers were headed. so how long did those contrails persist? 2 minutes? 5? 20?
edit: as an older person, I remember watching the skies as a kid, and seeing plenty of contrails. my father, an electrical engineer in the aerospace industry had to explain to me how the were formed.
Ice crystals stay around for very long time. Plus, contrails are nothing but a water vapor cloud, exactly like a cloud cloud... and clouds dont just dissipate and go away, clouds last as long as the conditions are right to have water vapor there...
Do some research folks. Try Dane Wiggington at Geoengineeringwatch.org for lots of stuff on this topic. Then come back and tell us that chemtrails aren't real.
^ THIS ^ is what I mean by mental retardation. So, all contrails disappear, but if they have the chemicals being sprayed, they persist? You're saying that contrails always disappear, unless they have chemtrail chemicals in them?
Ludicrous.
What's doing the spraying in your theory, the engine? Or secondary systems unrelated to the engine, but on each aircraft, designed to look like it's coming from the engine, i.e., four trails from a 747/380, two from, say, a 737?
I have personally taken apart a 737 engine. Nothing spraying in there. At all.
I have personally taken apart a 737 wing. Nothing spraying in there, either.
And yeah, no, tons of those WW2 bomber contrail photos show the contrails persisting. What, are you blind? Or just actually mentally retarded?
So, I'm seeing chemtrails mentioned a lot lately, so, I wanted to sort of concentrate all the discussion so we can all "get it out of our system," as it were. As a concept, a concerted chemtrail program could most definitely be used to change the Earth's climate or environment. But the idea that they are secretly doing this via commercial aviation is just so fucking intellectually insulting, that I just can't even.
And they disappeared for 4 years. Funny the “weather conditions” just happened to be right for “never disappearing contrails” when Trump is out of office.
It's real, hell they admit it. There's articles out there I've read and they're bragging about it. Contrails dissipate in seconds, chemtrails hang all day long.
I am precious :) thank you. Not a child though. And I will do no such thing. Thanks. You guys have your “thing”. It’s not my thing. Why are y’all trying to shove this shit down people throats and not listen to the logic of the other side either ? Y’all sound like a bunch of triggered liberals. Only your side matters? Maybe start a new site for yourselves. Or the mods can maybe give you all a special little sticky post to talk amongst yourselves. But don’t try cramming shit down people’s throats. You are NOT above anyone. Get real please.
Aw you are flattering me hardcore tonight ?? still sound like an info/opinion throat cramming libtard to me though. If I wanted to hear this shit I’d go on Facebook. Save the petty arguments for social media
I was wondering how to downvote disrespectful posts like this one, can anybody please tell me ?
I only have an upvote option (punisher us flag arrow) whereas messages have both arrows.
Thanks !
Edit : if it's because my account is not old enough, when will the restriction be lifted ?
Contrails are normal - dissipate quick and tight, stay close to their original path of release.
Chemtrails - long trails, take hours and disperse over a wide area. They even made up new cloud names, because people were catching on.
Skies 30 years ago did not have these. They were normal puffy clouds. Lots of sun and Vitamin D. Less disease & illness. Sun is our biggest D source. Block it out and disease rise = Trillions made. How convenient ?
Even on dreary days there may have been grey overcast days, but never like fkn etch-a-sketch skies. Hell this isn't even worth the time. U can look into the skies, watch them spray the shit, and watch is spread and linger. In the same skyline u can see regular planes with CONtrails go by and their trails are short and gone in an hr.
If u want to believe they're saving the planet, because of a fancy name " stratospheric aerosol injection " then that's your choice. That shit is for climate changers.
No. The dissipation of contrails depends on a number of factors. Temperature, air pressure, both which vary wildly, are what affects the persistence of contrails.
Skies 30 years ago had these. I was there. And there's plenty of photographic evidence, too. The reason for the increase is due to the explosion in air travel. How many passengers flew in 2019 worldwide? 925.5 million passengers. Go ahead, look at the data yourself:
There's where your supposed 'chemtrails' are coming from... FOUR BILLION MORE PEOPLE IN THE AIR. Fine, I get that geoengineering is a thing and exists. I'm just trying to understand what chemtards think is happening with 60 planes are high altitude spraying chemicals in their neck of the woods. Who's doing this? Commercial airlines? Or a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations claimed specifically in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? That's 180 aircraft there alone. Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
Well the globohomos do like to do globohomo things on global scales. Though I don't think anything needs to be global, you just need to target certain areas when you need to.
A realistic and modern use of this sort of technology would be, for instance, if you were in a silent/cold war with a foreign country and you wanted to use this type of technology to disrupt cloud patterns and create long-term local droughts or torrential rains in critical areas.
Those are ballast tanks, used for simulating cargo. They can easily change weights in the plane in different locations without having to actually load, strap down, move around chunks of metal or bags of sand, and they dont break free like the tanks did in that one military cargo plane that fell backwards and crashed on takeoff... not everything you see is a conspiracy or unexplainable, or even nefarious....
Those are simply ballast tanks.
I didn’t bother reading the comments but I’ll put my two cents in anyway.
Contrails are like an artificial cloud that is naturally formed by the compression and decompression of air. This is extremely common.
Chem trails are chemicals that planes put out for whatever reason. Planes and governments have done this(normally to seed rain) but it’s been experimental and exceptionally rare.
Hey Retards: keep your tin-foil hat conspiracies out of here. When new folks come here trying to learn about Q and sees flat-earth bullshit or chemtrail nonsense it is a interest killer.
This shit is making us look like diaper wearing retards. Take it elsewhere.
I don't understand what you are trying to say -
CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL.
DOD has patents on that shit.
How does one believe in Q but not chemtrails?
That’s like saying “I believe in God but I am an Atheist.”
This makes no sense and is completely retarded.
"How does one follow Q but not believe in the loch ness monster? Its like being a baker but refusing to make custom gay cakes, it makes no sense and" blah blah..
Do you know what a false equivalency is?
That's what I found some of the other comparisons to be. Believing Q but not chem trails would be more akin to "I believe in Christ, but not the Nicean Creed.". It is possible and valid, even if the two often go together.
Well you sort of described agnosticism with a trivial difference
Yeah exactly, that’s the thing. How the fuck can one have full faith the point of MODDING a Q board but make the claim chemtrails are a retarded conspiracy theory?
It’s like if someone was a super vegan health nut but owned a burger king.
You get what I’m saying? It just doesn’t make sense.
The theory says chemtrails are being spread everywhere (Look up! A contrail!) and that means they are "spraying us."
Yeah. Fucking NO.
EDIT: See? Logical questions, no answers.. just downvotes
That’s not the theory at all. If it was I’d be with you 100% because that sounds absolutely retarded.
Why was this study retracted? Hmmm... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927569/
Skim this thread. Why are my requests for any sort of proof that commercial aircraft are chemtrailing? Hmmm...
Chemtrails are a fact. Governments around the world are openly spraying the skies to try to control the weather, like in Croatia and many other countries where the gov sprays thunderstorms with silver iodide to prevent wildfires.
Then there’s the more sinister theory that governments are spraying other stuff to control the population, using both mil and civ aircraft. No, I don’t have any evidence for that, and I see many people are using the first part as proof of the second part. I’m pretty sure commercial aircrafts are not being used, too many people would be in the knowing to contain it. Do they spray to control us? I don’t know, but as everything else I try to keep an open mind. And remember: 0 Qpost(s) found containing "Chemtrails".
Fine, I get that geoengineering is a thing and exists. I'm just trying to understand what chemtards think is happening with 60 planes are high altitude spraying chemicals. Who's doing this? Commercial airlines? Or a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations specifically mentioned in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
I don't really agree with the extra inflammatory rhetoric, but I do also agree with catsfive that this isn't the board for it unless we see something Q related with it.
It's not bad to drive relevant traffic to their respective .wins either, as that helps build up their communities and gets the entire network more traffic
Feel free to point to a qpost about chemtrails
When did Q talk about chemtrails?
He didn’t that’s why I’m wondering how this even started.
I was just talking about the language used. Oh well let’s get back on topic.
Anyone have any new info?
You can also search past congressional hearings and dig up quite a few discussions about the "necessity" of chem trails.
It's not a Q matter. Closest I have on it is listing the words "AIR" and "CHEMICALS" in close proximity in #1010: "... YOUR VOICE DOES NOT MATTER. PHARMA [CLAS-D] WATER AIR CHEMICALS PUSHED FOR HOME USE CLEANING [CANCER][BABY ON FLOOR-HANDS IN MOUTH - THE START]. VACCINES [NOT ALL]. TOBACCO. OPIOIDS. ULTIMATE WIN [DEATH + MONEY]. THE FED. ROTHSCHILD. 'CONSPIRACY' ...." Hat tip u/LibtardsGotTrumped.
While so-called "geoengineering" is admitted, the pharmaceutical industry is much worse for us and much more Satanic. (Revelation describes pharmakeia as a mortal sin.) My personal feelings that the 7 Florida hurricanes of 2004-2005 may have been strengthened by the "scout helicopters" constantly overflying them are irrelevant because largely unprovable. Similarly, looking up and believing you are seeing chemtrails is a confirmation bias. Finding reports on how much aluminum someone admits dumping, well, that's research and might be interesting, I'd love to see that at Conspiracies. Oddly, all the links I see in this thread and the prior only work if you already believe the theory.
Here's some more unimportant stuff you don't care about to get us back on the rabbit-hole track.
Post 1010 was dated 4/4/2018. "The Khan Shaykhun chemical attack took place on 4 April 2017 on the town of Khan Shaykhun in the Idlib Governorate of Syria. The town was reported to have been struck by an airstrike by government forces followed by massive civilian chemical poisoning" (Wikipedia, citing sarin).
Post 1113 (4/9/2018): Anon: "Did anons ever figure out what Q meant with the 'BABY ON FLOOR-HANDS IN MOUTH - THE START' Was this Syria FF?" Q: "Finally. Chemicals. Learn our comms. Q".
He refers to it again in 2847 (2/21/2019) by quoting 1113 and linking "https://www.sciencenews.org/article/chemicals-vinyl-floors-fire-resistant-couches-kids-health-risk You have more than you know. 5:5? Q".
What is 5:5? The most common chemical with "5,5" in the name is (1,3-dimethylol-)5,5-dimethylhydantoin, listed on shampoo and conditioner bottles as DMDM hydantoin (Glydant), which works by releasing formaldehyde. That seems a much better fit to both Q and my comment that pharma is worse than chemtrails!
(If I don't repost this on the next chemtrail thread, please do it for me.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection
The same people telling you man can’t control the weather tell you that man is causing global warming
SPOT ON
Manbearpig
Puppy monkey baby.
Gotta live 1 here. Using logic n shit.
Yeah. Now prove they're spraying everywhere, using commercial aircraft, like chemtards say.
EDIT: Thanks for letting me know. I'm really genuinely trying to figure this out. People I listen to, podcasts, etc., really smart people, they talk like chemtrails are real. I worked in operations training at a major Canadian airline for a few years. I've literally documented a plane coming in and documented them taking it apart in what's called a B-check. It's insane what they do. I watched the plane roll in on a revenue flight (with passengers) and then go straight to the hangar for maintenance. Are chemtrail people telling me someone comes in and takes apart/away the "sprayer" systems, or something? I'm trying to understand how this supposedly works.
NO ONE ANSWERS THIS QUESTION for me. They just downvote and move on.
Pretty easy to tell the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail. One is miles long and lasts for hours, and the other dissipates pretty quickly. Calm down, dude. You believe the world is run by satanic pedophiles, but chemtrails are ridiculous? In the words of Mr. Biden "c'mon man!".
No. Research high pressures. They absorb contrails almost immediately. Jesus.
I can tell you as a child, every contrail dissipated. Something changed around 2000 and on. Having a sky full of a grid like pattern is something I would have remembered as a kid. DID NOT EXIST. I am not retarded, just observant.
This is also the part I find most compelling. I used to watch aircraft quite a bit as a kid in the 80s and 90s and like you I remember the contrails ALWAYS dissipated quickly. There were never lines in the sky that persisted for hours, not like what we have today.
I'm not saying chemicals are being sprayed because I have no idea, but I do agree that what we're seeing now aren't contrails.
Did you seem to notice significantly less in the past year?
About 4 years ago there was never a day without them (I did photography as a hobby and all my photos had them)
Last year there were only a few days with them.
All different weather conditions, same locations.
Yes I did. Made me giddy! Look kids, puffy clouds!! I've never really gotten to play cloud watching games with my kids because vit almost always looks like hazy, stripey blah.
The airplanes now fly at higher altitudes, bonehead. Lower pressure, lower absolute humidity, longer contrail persistence. I see this all the time and I live south of a major international airport.
I watch the sky daily because I work outside and actually take the time to notice. During Trumps first year there were NO chemtrails in my part of the sky! NONE. Clouds were different and there were actually disappearing contrails! Gave me a feeling of nostalgia where I would remember seeing this daily as a kid. You will never have me believe that this is some type of atmospheric condition where temperature, pressure and humidity just completely changes because Trump was elected. We had a springtime that lasted for several months where the temperature gradually went from cold to hot instead of the usual immediate cold to hot. Jan 21st they were fucking back!
Ive done plenty of research on the subject, believe me. If consensus is any indication of reality (and I'm not trying to say it is) you are wrong.
We are a bunch of wacko conspiracy theorists around here though. Just sayin ;)
Right, so, no proof whatsoever it's being done on a commercial scale, but, "people believe it," so, it's therefore true. Got it.
Same with ritual satanic pedophilia. Bunch of rumors and symbolism mostly.. but it is pretty compelling though, once you look at all the circumstancial evidence. There is plenty of evidence leading to both, but to this day I have only heard rumors and conjecture. To quote Hanz Landa "I love rumors!!! Facts can be so misleading, but rumors are often quite revealing!" I entertain conspiracy theories, and I have jumped down a rabbit hole through a psyop before and it's too explainable to be untrue. There are too many reasons they may want to spray things in the air from weather manipulation to 3d imaging tech. Flat earth is obviosly a psyop because it is obviously created as an appeal to ridicule. "You believe in Q?? You must be a flat earther too!" Same with Alex Jones. He plays a buffoon for a reason... you get to know the patterns
You sound exactly like the idiots who said there is "no proof of WIDESPREAD election fraud."
Except, I can post a link for you of exactly that—WIDESPREAD election fraud. Now post your link of widespread chemtrailing from commercial aircraft.
DISPROVE IT.
That's not how logic works, idiot. The person making the assertion bears the burden of proof.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU BELIEVE. WE ALL KNOW IT EXISTS> your preaching to the wrong people
WE ALL KNOW THERE ARE WEATHER ALTERING EQUIPMENT OUT THERE.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW AND DO NOT CARE TO DO THE RESEARCH? THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM - NOT MINE.
Not a rebuttal, fren.
if you do not want to do the research for yourself - I cannot spoon feed it to you
I suppose you could, but you'd be spoonfeeding me from your bowl full of nothing...
if you don't want to do the research and want to remain a d8mb f-ck - go for it
I'm a mod here and this is precisely fucking why. This movement would be better off without these fuckwits. We research. We bust our ASSES to be right about things. This just makes us look like fucking loons and I'm sick of it.
Yo according to the sidebar rules, you could be banned for this comment
So prove that the overall conspiracy is utterly mentally-retarded.
Being unable to prove it's being done on a commercial scale, but, "people believe it," so, it's therefore true is the part that's mentally retarded, fren.
I’m sure a lot of people on here have spent time researching this topic and speaking with people about it, so there’s probably tons of users on both sides of the argument.
The problem with your post is that it just calls the conspiracy theory “Utterly mentally-retarded”, but does not even link to anything that would prove your opinion to be correct. All it’s doing is belittling the users that agree with the Chemtrail conspiracy theory, for no apparent reason.
Really a bad judgement call as a Mod I think, to circle a topic back to another topic of users arguing, about more distracting things.
That was indeed a problem. This post has, however, developed a second problem—every time I ask for a link of your assertions, y'all downvote and bail. Go ahead, skim this thread. Not ONE link from a legitimate source (and I don't mean MSM, either).
That's not how these assertions work, fren. You're the one making the assertions. I'm asking for evidence. Your response? ALL CAPS.
Not a good look on a Q board.
I am asking you to be a Q person - and do your OWN RESEARCH
don't listen to the FACT CHECKING LIARS
don't listen to the MSM LIARS
do some of your own research - that way - you learn to NOT RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE
Good advice. But, psst, one small thing. We're on the Q board, supposedly among the best researchers and decoders on planet Earth. Skim this thread. Why are my requests for any sort of proof that commercial aircraft are chemtrailing? Hmmm...
I suggest you go to DUCKDUCKGO and type in CHEMTRAIL
I am not your personal research assistant (PSST)
Because they are military planes doing the spraying?
If that isn't it, I don't even know what to say. Look up.
OK. I figure it would have to be military. But, that would be a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations claimed specifically in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? That's 180 aircraft there alone. So, look it up? That's enough aircraft for five full-staffed AFB's. Look it up where? Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
Yeah, they have only talked about owning the weather since like '96.
The use of arosels combined with VHF & ULF wave lengths, used to heat or cool the ionosphere. Is a very real technique. They didn't take those frequencies off the "air" for your digital viewing pleasure... They took them off, to conduct experiments.. The earth is not Flat, but Weather Modification is very real.
Link from Air force Report, owning the weather by 2025.
https://archive.org/details/WeatherAsAForceMultiplier
awesome read, wow.
invitation to u/catsfive to reply to the posts that provide the official links he's asking for.
strawman strategy!
I've noticed chemtrails coming from unmarked white planes at a particular altitude. They spray in a gridlike pattern one after another. It's very methodical. I never saw anything like it growing up. It would have freaked me out and I would have remembered.
How are heavy metal salts getting into the snow at the top of Mount Shasta? These chemicals are matched to the geoengineering patents people are referencing.
Any photos? Link.
Dr. Russell Blaylock, renowed neurosurgeon on the reality and risk of chemtrails to neurological health:
https://oneradionetwork.com/health-articles/chemtrails-nanoaluminum-neurodegenerative-neurodevelopmental-effects/
He is not a retard.
Read the entire article. OK, the medical science is settled. I'm not disputing that. Where is he explaining HOW it's being sprayed, constantly, all the time? I listen to Q podcasts and legit researchers I respect are saying "They're spraying a lot around here." But, that would be a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations claimed specifically in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? That's 180 aircraft there alone. So, look it up? That's enough aircraft for five full-staffed AFB's. Look it up where? Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
Have you not heard of Evergreen International Aviation? It's a well known CIA contractor, even wikipedia knows that.
A whistleblower came about about 10 years ago and said regarding Evergreen in the 90s: During his time at the facility he was involved in retro fitting 727 and 747-c aircraft with liquid discharge tanks and aerosol sprayer devices"
Another whistleblower came out a few years ago saying the official name of the project is Operation Indigo Skyfold- he talks about the bases:
https://humansarefree.com/2018/11/u-s-air-force-pilot-exposes-top-secret-chemtrail-program-its-called-operation-indigo-skyfold.html
Evergreen, before it's owner sold it off, had 4,500 employees on record and operated out of 100 bases. I'm sure the operation rolled over to new managers. Deep state was all over Evergreen like white on rice.
But the name Evergreen got me to thinking about Qpost 3856
The lines are drawn. [Zw7301-&vQ-00-00-03] Define Renegade [Hussein USSS code name]. Standard definition. Define Evergreen [HRC USSS code name] Non-standard defintion. Think depopulation. The Silent War continues… Q
What in the World are they Spraying
https://youtu.be/rEUg8uLoZNY
produced by G. Edward Griffin who wrote The Creature that Came from Jekyll Island, and brought the truth of the Federal Reserve out. Griffin has also been talking about the New World Order since the 1960s in a public way.
He is not a retard,
https://chemtrailsnorthnz.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/chemtrailsprayplane1.jpg
Military aircraft chem trailing - love the part at the end where the "trail" just stops. I've seen it where it stops, then starts again, leaving a gap. Or they just run out of material and head back to where they come from with absolutely no white stuff coming out the back.
https://youtu.be/PUTQ5Q8Z6YQ
Video by: Dane Wigington has a background in solar energy. He is a former employee of Bechtel Power Corp. and was a licensed contractor in California and Arizona.
His personal residence was featured in a cover article on the world’s largest renewable energy magazine, Home Power. He owns a large wildlife preserve next to Lake Shasta in Northern California.
He is not a retard.
Yeah. Those are fronts. The upper atmosphere isn't uniform. Do you ever watch the weather forecasts? That's what those "ridges" those fronts are. You can see these phenomena here, for instance. The plane is flying through tubes of low/high/low pressure, causing the contrail to start/stop/start.
https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/08/morninggloryclouds.jpg
Why is basic meteorological knowledge not part of the chemtrail story?
I have basic meteorological knowledge. Have taught it to children. Your picture is absolutely like nothing I showed you. My favorite is when they turn arguing and fly through the same space with no trail. Was no ridge.
There is 21 trillion dollars missing in the DoD. Not hard to imagine some of it is being applied to this program off the books. We did have several months here in the Nashville area about a year ago with no chemtrails, only contrails. It was magical.
My picture lacks the altitude, yes, but it's driven by the same pressure high/low/high. What's more 'basic' than that? You know, that thing you taught to kids.
Looking for something beyond "not hard to imagine," mate.
CONTRAILS ARE NOT CHEMTRAILS. Some people just think, wrongly, they are all the same thing.
https://youtu.be/WSb59XLxU24
Yep lol. Only takes a cursory google search to find this out. Mods missed the mark on this one.
These mods are compromised and are here to keep truth out.
Oh now the mods are out to get you? Paranoid much?
How do you feel about flat earth
I’m generally entertained by it
I will have to respectfully disagree. There are specific patents and instruction manual of best practices for these things already. Doesn't matter what name you use but people are definelty spraying chemicals into the air with intent to cause changes.
I'm not saying that the concept of "spraying substances in the sky" is stupid. I'm saying that when chemtards see an aircraft flying across the sky, they point to the contrail and claim that as evidence that they are spraying us.
Yeah, NO.
Strawman fail. Give it up, you are either too dumb or lazy to study the mountains of sources or you knowingly argue in bad faith.
Strawman? You don't know what that is, apparently.
No, that's a strawman. Also moving the goal posts.
I am a pilot and student of history and science, i can tell the difference between the two. Can you? The first step towards the truth is just noticing they are different. We can argue about why, if you like, but I see two different kinds of trails in the sky.
Tell me the characteristics.
I have noticed that telling does not help when it comes to Q or things that bring cognitive dissonance. There have been new kinds of clouds ""discovered" during the last 30 years, start looking there. In the spirit of things, though, among the first formations I started to notice look like long white contrails that span the sky and seem to develop little caterpillar legs as they spread into a haze. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/16/science/16CHEMTRAILS/16CHEMTRAILS-superJumbo.jpg
Edit to add that I wanted to put a picture of an actual contrail here but it is surprisingly or perhaps not surprisingly hard to find one. If anyone can post a picture for Catsfive of an actual short lived contrail I would appreciate it, I am about to go afk. Thanks!
u/catsfive is arguing in bad faith. they know the difference and are trying to force the opinion down everyone's throat via stickied threads and comments, that have nothing to do with Q research.
it's pretty sad tbh, seems to be running interference for some reasos
Why make this thread? Just lock the off-topic threads and keep it clean. This just feeds into the distraction. This thread is 100% hot air.
Because over the past week, I'm seeing chemtrails mentioned in comment streams all over this .WIN, and I want to know why.
Well now, you are why
This isn't going away lol
I see your point. Maybe using some truth so they can throw it all out. I understand.
There are patents and manuals for nuclear weapons... doesnt mean that they are constantly setting off nukes....
This is what catsfive needed to stress.
Spouting 'uterrly mentally retarded' by a mod does far more harm than a few 'conspiracy theorist'.
Also: While I don't really know much about chem trails in general or even know what to believe, I'm pretty sure that the elites very recently talked about using them to shade the planet from the sun to "counter climate change"
Yeah I heard Montgomery Burns talking about it too
https://archive.is/aq9oP Yup.
From the article:
"Thousands of planes would fly at high altitudes, spraying millions of tons of particles around the planet"
It's true and I'm sorry about that, actually. I should apologize, especially as a mod. I would consider chemtrails to be my achilles heel. I worked in the airline industry for years. The idea that they're secretly spraying on us is ridiculous.
I worked as a valet for 2 years, so I know every single vehicle inside and out that's ever driven on the roads
See how that doesn't work out?
So you have a blind spot, no shame in that so long as you make an effort to remedy.
That's exactly what this post is. I get that geoengineering is a thing and exists. I'm just trying to understand what chemtards think is happening with 60 planes are high altitude spraying chemicals in their neck of the woods. Who's doing this? Commercial airlines? Or a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations claimed specifically in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? That's 180 aircraft there alone. Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
Well places like Oregon have been caught doing this with lithium and other chemicals. Just saying. I don't think "EVERY PlaNe THatT HaS a TRaiL" is doing it. I just know that it has happened, and wouldn't surprise me if it still occurs some places.
It also has nothing to do with Q.
Then catsfive should stop pinning comments on it. Was not an issue before the flat earth shit that was pinned today.
Link, pls
http://chemtrailsmuststop.com/2016/01/nasa-admits-to-spraying-lithium-into-the-atmosphere/
Here is the NASA admittance article. The local news never made it to the web that I know of. It is just well know by people who were reporting this. The local "spraying" was done as a study on a smaller scale to see how it affected people more dramatically as best I can find. No direct sources on that. But why would there be?
Thanks! Now this is what I'm talking about. Except, one thing, ummm... has this been covered anywhere else other than www.OhMyGodChemtrailsAreReallyReallyEvil.com?
FROM YOUR LINK: These are high wind experiments launched by rockets, not seeded by aircraft.
See:
https://phys.org/news/2018-03-false-stories-nasa-lithium.html
I read that about Q the other day. Just some wakos online talking about space lasers and stuff. Q didn't mention chemtrails. But nasa talks about doing what the locals all claimed on a larger scale. So make your own mind up. You are acting like CNN talking about "QAnaon" right now. If its not real to you, why do you CARE?
catsfive sounds like a typical know it all redditor who builds up straw man arguments that no one made and knocking them down.
they are a fucking MOD on a Q forum, and trying to shit on absolute facts that cannot be refuted with any comment except for "HUR DUR WHERE DOES IT SAY EVERY AIRCRAFT IS SPRAYING US LIKE EVERY SINGLE CHEMTARD SAYS!!!" then proceeds to google ww2 bomber contrails for proof.
u/catsfive has done what they were complaining about on a bigger scale, and brought more attention to it. almost seems like it was done intentionally. if they wanted to look retarded and get everyone to actually show the proof, good on em'
Facts? What facts? All y'all do is bail like losers when I ask the real questions. So, OK, let's go, then:
Let me get this straight: You're saying all contrails disappear, but if they have the chemicals being sprayed, they persist in the sky? You're saying that contrails always disappear, unless they have chemtrail chemicals in them?
Ludicrous.
What's doing the spraying in your theory, the engine? Or secondary systems unrelated to the engine, but on each aircraft, designed to look like it's coming from the engine, i.e., four trails from a 747/380, two from, say, a 737?
I have personally taken apart a 737 engine. Nothing spraying in there. At all.
I have personally taken apart a 737 wing. Nothing spraying in there, either.
Well? Were the bombers that were making PERSISTENT contrails also chemtrailing?
This .WIN is being inundated with chemtards this past week, and the mod team is noticing. What I've done is draw all you out into one thread, where I want to understand what the evidence you think you have looks like. What happens instead? Downvotes, and silence, which is pretty much to be expected when presented with these legitimate questions.
www.geoengineeringwatch.org is an excellent resource
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/rockets-atmosphere.html
In case you don't read the article and click the NASA link.
In the documentary, What in the World are they Spraying, PhD scientists take soil samples from t and snow samples. They find 61000x the upper limit the EPA has set for Barium on top pf Mount Shasta. The soil samples showed the alkalinity of the soil was too high. Check out the patents for aluminum resistant crops. Looks like they plan to make sure you can only buy seeds from them, because heirlooms won't be able to grow.
If you're frustrated by not getting links to your satisfaction, understand that most of us processed this information 10+ years or so ago and have moved on. Much of it is aggregated on geoengineeringwatch.org.
does any of this have anything to do with any nuclear accidents or tests from the last 50 years maybe?
No, the scientist who did the testing said the snow was clean just a few years before.
OK, fine, but chemtrail adherents are saying chemtrails are happening nationwide. Got a blanket of snow samples supporting these levels in, say, a dozen other areas of the country? I'm TRYING to prove chemtrails. But the data required is being driven by YOU with your claims, not me asking for evidence to support those claims.
Wrong. We're saying it's happening worldwide. The pH of the soil is changing, even in remote areas away from industry.
Not sure what all your saying, but I do have a degree in engineering and know I am not a retard.
As a Tennessean, we are a conspiracy minded bunch because Oak Ridge was a secret city that employed thousands and a large cost, but know one knew of its purpose. It's going to be interesting going forward if we are victorious over the plan to salt the earth, what you all are going to say when we have day after day of glorious chem trail free skies.
OK, so you have the sampling data, correct?
Another interesting tidbit https://www.transitieweb.nl/mirror-carnicom-institute/visibility-standards-changed/index.html
No, but there are some examples on Dane's site under the tab Labs. I have not taken the time to crowd-source massive sampling of the continent, personally. But I think it all adds up when you look at GMO seeds and the tree die offs that are happening, especially out west.
Also, Aluminum is an accelerant, which would make those western wildfires bigger than we saw prior this controversy.
https://www.transitieweb.nl/mirror-carnicom-institute/plot-of-rainfall-ph-test-data/index.html
I don't know if the OP is sarcastic or a backwards way of getting everyone to research. But, man chemtrails, or STRATO AEROSOL INJECTION is very real.
Just about every post crowd-sourcing research on this .WIN feels this way.
I just know i watched those lines fill up the sky in Chicago on the daily with my own eyes. No clue what it was. But a clear day turned hazy ??♀️
Moisture condensing and freezing.....didn’t any conspiracist take any science in Highschool?
I know what I saw
And what did you see? Moisture from the engine immediately condensing .... Science lesson.....” Between 30,000 and 40,000 feet (9,000 and 12,000 m), the cruising altitude of most jet aircraft, air temperature ranges from -40° F to -70° F (-40° C to -57° C).”
You say you “know what you saw” when you also admit, “ No clue what it was”
She saw stratospheric aerosol injection here is your best friend ol JB telling us all about it https://youtu.be/WSb59XLxU24 but I guess this is explainable too huh!?
You don’t know what she saw do you? My response is reasonable since contrails are commonplace and actual science.
Which is more prevalent, commercial airliners or some specialty equipped seeding aircraft?
The technology of seeding if there, but when someone sees contrails all over the sky....which seems more probable?
Relax...this is boring
Educating people is not boring.
You’re not educating me...you don’t have that ability. You’re just clicking ??♀️
Wait....so you knew how cold it is at 30,000 feet?
Not scientifically, you dont... unless you took a sample from the vapor cloud itself and had it analyzed, you're literally just GUESSING. An unscientific guess.
Im relaying an observation. Stop trying to argue with me.
Your observations mean nothing. "I see army tanks on the railroad today, that means we are going to war with canada!!! "
Shut up lol.
When someone cant argue with facts logic and reason.... insults. Figures.
Explain how moisture condensing and freezing can then persist and increase in volume many times over across the sky?
Does water expand or contract when it freezes? Do particles spread out depending on the winds aloft?
How would a chemical “persist and increase in volume many times over across the sky?”
How do you tell the difference from the ground between water vapor and a chemical ?
Do you question that clouds are natural and real too?
Wrong.... “Between 30,000 and 40,000 feet (9,000 and 12,000 m), the cruising altitude of most jet aircraft, air temperature ranges from -40° F to -70° F (-40° C to -57° C).”
Yes. That was easy. If someone’s best claim is “Florida sky's don't freeze but they got chemtrails..”, their grip on the facts and evidence is about as limp as their handshake.
You realize the range you gave is WELL below freezing, right?
Below freezing.....means it will freeze sometimes immediately, as long as there is a precipitator....lol. What’s your point.
ALL skies above 30,000 feet are below freezing
How long should that take to disapate? That's the difference and the tell.
Normal contrails can take hours.....it’s very small ice particles...frozen vapor. Would chemicals being sprayed not freeze too? Where does stuff released at 40,000 in the jet stream wind up?
kek your downvotes
Lol
Chemtrails are real and they have been spraying the skies with them for decades.
From what? Commercial planes?
NOT ONE REPLY TO THIS QUESTION IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD
That's what I'm asking. Apparently, that's where the doors open and all the chemtrailers step off the train.
Yeah, people are paid to spray. So it is technically a commercial plane. Just not passenger planes
Technically
Did your cat die or something? So much hostility?
Because you know airliners only carry 10 people, no cargo, and 75,000 pounds of chemicals to spray.... on their flights over 95% rural country side, wilderness, and open ocean.
They are really targeting the masses there.
Hey Cats, you are not a gatekeeper of truth. You cynical old fart. You are so haughty it’s sickening. Listen to this if you have any integrity left in your pea sized wrinkled brain. https://youtu.be/WSb59XLxU24
Can confirm. I want to discuss this. I see it mentioned all the time lately and I want to have it out. I won't ban anyone or excessively make fun of anyone here. I just want to talk about it.
I've un-stickied this topic because I just want to talk about it. For some reason, it's a topic that really pushes my buttons.
Thanks for understanding.
Because THIS is exactly how the CIA's "consensus cracking" works. This what I'm trying to figure out. The board was Q-focused until about a week ago, when suddenly, we're stuffed with chemtrail retards. I won't have it.
You’re not alone.
I appreciate your willingness to not let other (well, questionable) conspiracies contaminate one that we all see massive evidence for and importance of, and for which the board was explicitly set up.
Additionally, quit stickying shit about what to think. This is a research board where we discuss theories. If you start telling me what to think, I'm out of here
Not what I'm doing. I know I've been a real stickler for post quality, however, so, your point is not lost on me. It's a tough line for a mod. Thank you for understanding. It's being mentioned a lot lately, so I'm trying to give the community a chance to collectively see where we stand with this.
Bullshit, that's exactly what you are attempting to do.
definitely a low-iq post. You believe in Q but chemtrails too much a stretch.
Wait, no one is saying that the concept of spraying chemicals from planes to modify global weather is a stretch. But showing off a few patents and spraying planes is not proof of a global-scale chemtrail program run via commercial aviation.
Heck, I happen to live in the epicenter for hail damage. Nowhere in NA gets more hail damage than here. Recently we had a hailstorm that did MILLIONS in damage across the city. I watch the spraying plane on my FlightRadar24 app all the time. But that's not the same as a global chemtrail program.
Catsfive is correct.....sure spraying to seed clouds happens, more often in China like when they had the Olympics....the air quality sucks so bad there that they need to seed a lot to get the pollution out of the air.
However, if you see a contrail.....is it more likely a normal consequence of a jet engine or spraying chemicals? Besides, if the goal is for the particles to reach the ground and affect people....all people, or just in the United States?
There would be no accurate way to know long the particles would hang in the upper atmosphere and where they would actually fall. Reference how far much heavier dust from a volcano travels.
Is this true, tho? Because I understood that raindrops or snow depend on particulates to form.
There are different reasons for sure....create rain for a drought....or cleans the air.....just like pollen is washed from the air after a rain.
Yes, pollution sinks and sits lower in the atmosphere.....they spread seed particles higher up....the water vapor latches on and make clouds....the clouds grow.....rain falls above the pollution.
“ China can influence the weather. As the allegedly largest rainmaker in the world, China should theoretically be able to lower the overall pollution levels since rain contributes to lowering air pollution levels. Rainmaking uncovered.”
https://www.lejournalinternational.fr/China-the-largest-rainmaker_a1443.html
"You believe in q, but loch ness is too much of a stretch "... see how silly that sounds?
I mean if the US Military is bombing Children in Syria. I don't doubt they would spray chemicals on us from above.
That's solid logic, but, not proof of a global-scale chemtrail program run via commercial aviation.
Ik. But wouldn't doubt it at this point. If the Military would get off it's ass and do something, that'll change my mind.
OK, but this is exactly what chafes my hide so much. I get "sounds plausible, you know they'd do it to us" and no evidence whatsoever. Apparently, that's where the doors open and all the chemtrailers step off the train. That should tell us something. But apparently it doesn't.
By what other means? I thought Chemtrails were supposedly ways to change the weather.
Repeating from above because u/NotAPuma wins the award for linking chemical attack with Syrian sarin! Post 1010 included "... YOUR VOICE DOES NOT MATTER. PHARMA [CLAS-D] WATER AIR CHEMICALS PUSHED FOR HOME USE CLEANING [CANCER][BABY ON FLOOR-HANDS IN MOUTH - THE START]. VACCINES [NOT ALL]. TOBACCO. OPIOIDS. ULTIMATE WIN [DEATH + MONEY]. THE FED. ROTHSCHILD. 'CONSPIRACY' ...."
Post 1010 was dated 4/4/2018. "The Khan Shaykhun chemical attack took place on 4 April 2017 on the town of Khan Shaykhun in the Idlib Governorate of Syria. The town was reported to have been struck by an airstrike by government forces followed by massive civilian chemical poisoning" (Wikipedia, citing sarin).
Post 1113 (4/9/2018): Anon: "Did anons ever figure out what Q meant with the 'BABY ON FLOOR-HANDS IN MOUTH - THE START' Was this Syria FF?" Q: "Finally. Chemicals. Learn our comms. Q".
He refers to it again in 2847 (2/21/2019) by quoting 1113 and linking "https://www.sciencenews.org/article/chemicals-vinyl-floors-fire-resistant-couches-kids-health-risk You have more than you know. 5:5? Q".
What is 5:5? The most common chemical with "5,5" in the name is (1,3-dimethylol-)5,5-dimethylhydantoin, listed on shampoo and conditioner bottles as DMDM hydantoin (Glydant), which works by releasing formaldehyde. That seems a much better fit to both Q and my comment that pharma is worse than chemtrails!
To avoid the hydantoin rabbit trail, I note that "5:5" appears in many posts and in 2548 seems to be a synonym of "Comms understood?", a phrase also used repeatedly in different forms. It doesn't come up in searches for jargon.
No, I remember seeing a Documentary, about the white lines across the sky. I think it was History Channel, so you know they're a Reliable Source.
Its really quite simple, if you want to poison the people, put chemicals in the sodas and other beverages. The strong flavors will mask most chemicals, and you can actually get an effective dose after dilution.
Spraying the open country side from 45,000 feet is just bat shit. They could be dropping saren nerve gas, and at that altitude it wouldn't affect anybody.
There is a reason when they doused the jungle with Agent Orange they had planes fly low over the tree tops.
No, it’s his site.
PLS see this. Thanks!
I'm glad someone said this. I would NEVER act like that. This is YOUR site, guys. I run the .WIN mod team, but IMO I don't "own" the .WIN. To me, Q is our boss. I try to conduct myself each and every day such that I would be able to stand in front of Trump and say, "Sir, I stayed on message and supported the mission." I would NEVER ban someone for participating in a thread like this, which I've basically said is a safe space to discuss something like this. But, this is getting mentioned all the time lately. I used to never see it, now I see it all the time. I want to give the community a chance to get it out of its system and collectively decide where we stand with this.
Because he clearly made this insulting and knew jerk post clearly because he disagrees with a theory and was pissed, and then tried to make an excuse to make that look noble and "for the betterment of the community." No one is buying it. Capt you apparently.
ditto
Is this a way to redpill? I don't get it. Yes not all contrails are chemtrails. But stratospheric aerosol injection is real.
OK, I agree, but where is it being done on a scale large enough to affect the global climate? That's what I'm trying to figure out.
So is bill gates right? Can't have a shiny toy and not fuck with it.
HOW is this even a reply to what I'm directly asking?? Apparently, that's where the doors open and all the chemtrailers step off the train.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/01/11/bill-gates-backed-climate-solution-gains-traction-but-concerns-linger/?sh=5ab11b99793b
How can you not do a simple search?
Conspiracies.win - that community could be really awesome with proper energy behind it.
Everybody should be welcome here, but the focus is Q and geopolitical events related to Q.
I'm assuming Patriots.win is where we go to start mounting political action against an illegitimate administration and the corrupt apparatus that enabled them in the first place.
Thank you.
That’s clear, generous, and inarguable, at least for anybody not maliciously looking to drag this focused board down into the pit of divisive lunacy.
Can confirm. Everybody is welcome here. I have been seeing chemtrails mentioned a lot in comments lately and wanted to get a sense of what everyone is thinking. Thanks for understanding.
If this is a genuine comment, then you might want to admit that you failed miserably.
Your Post title, in no way, provides that welcoming feeling, nor does it suggest that you care about getting a sense on what everyone’s feeling about the topic.
How about this? I agree with you. Sorry. Welcome to humans, I suppose. This whole thing came from me asking questions in a different thread, actually, where chemtrails were being asked. So I ask, "What's your best proof of them doing commercial-scale spraying?" crickets Skim this thread. NO ONE is stepping up to answer Apparently, that's where the doors open and all the chemtrailers step off the train. Apologies, but that pisses me off, especially when it's my job to protect the TRUE Q researchers and decoders around here. The chemtrail thing makes us look like loons, and I'm not going to stand for it.
true contrails dont last for minuets to hours after the plain is gone, that shit dissipates almost immediately after the plain, A TRUE CONTRAIL, that is, all you see these days IS chemtrails
False....contrails do linger for hours.....tell me how a “true contrail” is formed?
Who's downvoting this? Contrails often linger for HOURS. It's called WINTER. The persistence of a contrail is determined by atmospheric conditions.
Ikr
during WW2, German military figured out to watch the contrails to get a hint on where the Allied bombers were headed. so how long did those contrails persist? 2 minutes? 5? 20?
edit: as an older person, I remember watching the skies as a kid, and seeing plenty of contrails. my father, an electrical engineer in the aerospace industry had to explain to me how the were formed.
I'm older, too.
Ice crystals stay around for very long time. Plus, contrails are nothing but a water vapor cloud, exactly like a cloud cloud... and clouds dont just dissipate and go away, clouds last as long as the conditions are right to have water vapor there...
Do some research folks. Try Dane Wiggington at Geoengineeringwatch.org for lots of stuff on this topic. Then come back and tell us that chemtrails aren't real.
Post link from his site where he proves it's being done by commercial aircraft.
EDIT: Apparently, that's where the doors open and all the chemtrailers step off the train.
Who said that's the overwhelming staple of the theory? Some people think that sure, but damn that's a total strawman.
Chem trails are real.
Quit tying to equate water vapor contrails that disappear in minutes to chem trails that last all day and disperse much slower.
Your ww2 Google search of bombers contrails is an absolute joke. you seem really butt hurt and scared trying to constantly sticky your comments.
^ THIS ^ is what I mean by mental retardation. So, all contrails disappear, but if they have the chemicals being sprayed, they persist? You're saying that contrails always disappear, unless they have chemtrail chemicals in them? Ludicrous. What's doing the spraying in your theory, the engine? Or secondary systems unrelated to the engine, but on each aircraft, designed to look like it's coming from the engine, i.e., four trails from a 747/380, two from, say, a 737? I have personally taken apart a 737 engine. Nothing spraying in there. At all. I have personally taken apart a 737 wing. Nothing spraying in there, either. And yeah, no, tons of those WW2 bomber contrail photos show the contrails persisting. What, are you blind? Or just actually mentally retarded?
LOL—this is where each of you losers bail.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/01/11/bill-gates-backed-climate-solution-gains-traction-but-concerns-linger/?sh=761b6030793b
is it because they are off topic or because people think they chemtrails to change our atmosphere are fake?
So, I'm seeing chemtrails mentioned a lot lately, so, I wanted to sort of concentrate all the discussion so we can all "get it out of our system," as it were. As a concept, a concerted chemtrail program could most definitely be used to change the Earth's climate or environment. But the idea that they are secretly doing this via commercial aviation is just so fucking intellectually insulting, that I just can't even.
I think a lot of people find it intellectually insulting that Biden and his admin are a bunch of satanic pedophiles. But we all know its true....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye#:~:text=Operation%20Popeye%20(Project%20Controlled%20Weather,Vietnam%20War%20in%201967%E2%80%931972.
I generally agree with you though.
so you admit you are odd.
kek
Ha, I like you
Funny how "getting it all out of our system" would be an excellent explanation of what would put 99% in the hospital. Q topical.
Call it a hunch, but you're a mean drunk aren't you?
Can mods be banned for failing to be respectful? Your tone does more harm than you know.
Sticky this https://greatawakening.win/p/12hR2q8Rz2/my-response-to-mod-catsfives-che/ Then I'll believe this post was about having an honest discussion.
Streisand effect like a motherfucker.
Yes.
catsfive has stocks in chemtrails and don't want people to buy them.
Shhh. DM me for details.
Can’t believe this bullshit got stickied, that’s something I would expect from TDW.
Again, we sticky things to get enough discussion going, then un-sticky. This was stickied for less than 40 minutes.
And they disappeared for 4 years. Funny the “weather conditions” just happened to be right for “never disappearing contrails” when Trump is out of office.
It's real, hell they admit it. There's articles out there I've read and they're bragging about it. Contrails dissipate in seconds, chemtrails hang all day long.
Agreed. I’m dying right now. These people getting so triggered by y’all today ?? that’s why we love you guys ??❤️
Aren’t you just precious you little child. Here watch this at time stamp 1:09 then reconcile. https://youtu.be/WSb59XLxU24
I am precious :) thank you. Not a child though. And I will do no such thing. Thanks. You guys have your “thing”. It’s not my thing. Why are y’all trying to shove this shit down people throats and not listen to the logic of the other side either ? Y’all sound like a bunch of triggered liberals. Only your side matters? Maybe start a new site for yourselves. Or the mods can maybe give you all a special little sticky post to talk amongst yourselves. But don’t try cramming shit down people’s throats. You are NOT above anyone. Get real please.
Aw you are flattering me hardcore tonight ?? still sound like an info/opinion throat cramming libtard to me though. If I wanted to hear this shit I’d go on Facebook. Save the petty arguments for social media
and I was kidding about bringing this up with catsfive. kek
They call it geo-engineering and they don't hide it much anymore.
Yes, and that’s a beach of something called science, and almost everybody now acknowledges that science is real, so chemtrails are obviously real.
I was wondering how to downvote disrespectful posts like this one, can anybody please tell me ? I only have an upvote option (punisher us flag arrow) whereas messages have both arrows. Thanks ! Edit : if it's because my account is not old enough, when will the restriction be lifted ?
I'll help you. You turn off community styling in settings.
Thank you.
Search ‘Cloud Seeding’. Chemtrails are real.
The conspiracy is that it makes people gay, or mind controls.
Yeah, but what do I search to find proof that it's happening all the time, via commercial airplanes?
Seeding doesn’t make clouds.
It precipitates precipitation.
Cloud seeding and “chemtrails” are unrelated beyond both being some sky shit that you evidently don’t understand.
Contrails are normal - dissipate quick and tight, stay close to their original path of release.
Chemtrails - long trails, take hours and disperse over a wide area. They even made up new cloud names, because people were catching on.
Skies 30 years ago did not have these. They were normal puffy clouds. Lots of sun and Vitamin D. Less disease & illness. Sun is our biggest D source. Block it out and disease rise = Trillions made. How convenient ?
Even on dreary days there may have been grey overcast days, but never like fkn etch-a-sketch skies. Hell this isn't even worth the time. U can look into the skies, watch them spray the shit, and watch is spread and linger. In the same skyline u can see regular planes with CONtrails go by and their trails are short and gone in an hr.
If u want to believe they're saving the planet, because of a fancy name " stratospheric aerosol injection " then that's your choice. That shit is for climate changers.
https://imgur.com/ji0i1WF
https://imgur.com/xvKsVXW
No. The dissipation of contrails depends on a number of factors. Temperature, air pressure, both which vary wildly, are what affects the persistence of contrails. Skies 30 years ago had these. I was there. And there's plenty of photographic evidence, too. The reason for the increase is due to the explosion in air travel. How many passengers flew in 2019 worldwide? 925.5 million passengers. Go ahead, look at the data yourself:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IS.AIR.PSGR
There's where your supposed 'chemtrails' are coming from... FOUR BILLION MORE PEOPLE IN THE AIR. Fine, I get that geoengineering is a thing and exists. I'm just trying to understand what chemtards think is happening with 60 planes are high altitude spraying chemicals in their neck of the woods. Who's doing this? Commercial airlines? Or a military that is doing this at a scale that is able to do it in N. Florida, N. California, and N. Michigan, all locations claimed specifically in my thread? And I'm like, WELL? That's 180 aircraft there alone. Nope. Everyone bails like the losers they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZShau-I7Smc I mean, I know Brennan IS utterly mentally-retarded, but weather manipulation via plane is commonly known.
Yes, but who's doing it at a global scale? That's what I want to know.
Well the globohomos do like to do globohomo things on global scales. Though I don't think anything needs to be global, you just need to target certain areas when you need to.
A realistic and modern use of this sort of technology would be, for instance, if you were in a silent/cold war with a foreign country and you wanted to use this type of technology to disrupt cloud patterns and create long-term local droughts or torrential rains in critical areas.
Edit: Accidentally a word.
Yes.
And that patently is not the same thing as the “chemtrails” conspiracy.
Those are ballast tanks, used for simulating cargo. They can easily change weights in the plane in different locations without having to actually load, strap down, move around chunks of metal or bags of sand, and they dont break free like the tanks did in that one military cargo plane that fell backwards and crashed on takeoff... not everything you see is a conspiracy or unexplainable, or even nefarious.... Those are simply ballast tanks.
I didn’t bother reading the comments but I’ll put my two cents in anyway.
Contrails are like an artificial cloud that is naturally formed by the compression and decompression of air. This is extremely common.
Chem trails are chemicals that planes put out for whatever reason. Planes and governments have done this(normally to seed rain) but it’s been experimental and exceptionally rare.
Guess the vaccine is safe too. ?
And that the Sasquatch is fake, too.
Why is this stupid shit pinned? I've seen the planes with my own eyes. We even used them in wars to spray crops overnight to starve people out.
I saw a magician pull a quarter out of my ear WITH MY OWN EYES.
Hey Retards: keep your tin-foil hat conspiracies out of here. When new folks come here trying to learn about Q and sees flat-earth bullshit or chemtrail nonsense it is a interest killer.
This shit is making us look like diaper wearing retards. Take it elsewhere.
I wish I could sticky other ppl's comments