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ℕ𝔼𝕆ℕ ℝ𝔼𝕍𝕆𝕃𝕋: A very important point was brought up at the #CyberSymposium last night.
posted 4 years ago by undine53 4 years ago by undine53 +681 / -0

If Arizona decertifies, Biden is no longer the president of the UNITED States.

He becomes a walking constitutional crisis.

Decertification needs to happen as soon as possible.

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– tracybean76 44 points 4 years ago +44 / -0

AMEN!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!

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– skidder1 64 points 4 years ago +64 / -0

I believe there is language that indicates ALL states must certify their votes before a president can be declared the winner. Not totally sure that's true, but what I've read before.

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– OkieBowhunter 67 points 4 years ago +67 / -0

This is correct. Congress cannot certify until all states have certified.

So, what happens when a state decertifies? We're gonna find out.

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– Factfiler 50 points 4 years ago +50 / -0

Devolution. The government is incapacitated, and the military must act.

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– Suckitreddit 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Especially when foreign interference proven...I’m totally on board the devolution train. Nothing else really makes sense at this point. Although I wonder if they are waiting for mass US protests like in Europe before the reveal. This is what concerns me...

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– freedom2520 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

What about the pedo that just resigned?

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– inquimous 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes. And I suspect that until he is replaced, the remaining Dems will not show up to make a quorum.

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– JayFrankAF 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That’s been bugging me for days the way it played out. I think it’s possible he was controlled by white hats and was sniffed out. He wasn’t big enough to move coverage but he was a yes or no vote. Now they can move in someone who theoretically isn’t diddling kids and the Dems control that vote.

We think we got a win. I’m not so sure.

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– zoeQ 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Patel Patriot theorized in his devolution series that Trump used a Presidential Executive Action Document (PEAD) to suspend counting the EVs sometime prior to the Jan 6th Joint Session of Congress. There are no instructions in the Constitution for rectifying a stolen election. If the votes were never actually certified, however, there is no need to decertify them as audit results are revealed.

It also means Trump has been in power the entire time.

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– magachudd 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

This would verify the meaning of "enjoy the show".

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– TopKek 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

its been a crappy show if true

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– CQVFEFE 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Patel Patriot theorized in his devolution series that Trump used a Presidential Executive Action Document (PEAD) to suspend counting the EVs sometime prior to the Jan 6th Joint Session of Congress. There are no instructions in the Constitution for rectifying a stolen election. If the votes were never actually certified, however, there is no need to decertify them as audit results are revealed. It also means Trump has been in power the entire time.

Yes! Now the only question is whether a president has the power to suspend the counting or not. The count seems to have occurred, but who knows

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– quai24 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

"We're in territory we've never been in before"

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– MuckeyDuck 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

There is a first time for everything. When a law has no precedent, it called a Case of First Impression.

To adopt the most persuasive rule of law, courts will look to various sources for guidance. These sources include:

  • legislative history and intent
  • policy
  • custom
  • the Restatement view
  • the law in other jurisdictions.

It seems to me that because at least 15 other election have been thrown out due to election fraud, mainly absentee vote fraud, that the court could draw some conclusion under "the law in other jurisdictions"

Since it is our Custom that those who commit fraud, not benefit from their crime, that seems like it could give weight to overturning election too.

Lastly Legislative History and Intent would be applicable. It certainly was not the intent of law to allow for voting machine companies, in league with foreign countries to run algorithms to swap votes.

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– PaPatriot170 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

And there's going to be different opinions and interpretations from people on our side. I've already seen the arguing.

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– LiberalismIsTheVirus 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

unzips

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– GoGoOptomistic 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Soon please!

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– WestCelt 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Sooooo Were we go as one we must go all???πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ

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– ITOLDYOUSO 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I, for one, great appreciated your comment

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– nobilisbellum 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I recall digging into this in Jan... and if a state does not certify electors by Jan 6, they are excluded from the count. The total number of electors is reduced and the winner must still receive the majority of electors... so total electors would go down by 11 from 538 to 527 and the amount needed to win would be 264. So need to pull more than just Arizona's electors to 'decertify'. Then again, there is no real precedent for decertification so who knows what the heck will happen.

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– Lopeover 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The election was fraudulent. It is proven and there is historical precedent on a resolution for a fraudulent election.

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– schiff_for_brains 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If this theory were correct, there could be a President that was only certified by one state.

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– 400DollarHandcart 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

AZ would decertify their votes for Biden because they discovered Trump won their state. I’m assuming, they would then certify their votes for President Trump. So all states would be certified except for a small window during the procedure.

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– Flynnknows 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

So you're saying that in 2017 if New York, or Cali "decertified " their electors then Trump would no longer have been president (and Obama would be)? Is it that easy for one state to remove a president? Seems a bit illogical to me.

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– Flounder2177 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

Need all 50 certified for a president. If 1 state does not claim Biden as president, then he doesn’t get any states. It could not and would not be considered The β€˜United’ States Of America because all 50 states wouldn’t be β€˜United’

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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

I believe this is what was stated yesterday. Xiden would still be President, but only of 49 states, no longer the United States. It would create a constitutional crisis. They went on to say that if GA and PA, or any other combo that would put total electoral votes below 270, occurred then Xiden would be out completely. Still a constitutional crisis, I am sure, as he was "certified" by congress. Having said that, they said there is ZERO case law for this occurring and no previous case to look to for legal guidance. This would be a first impression case (I think that was the term) and so they would need to look at Common Law cases for direction. If that is the path then they would review cases involving fraud. This would be considered executionable fraud, which is the worst kind of fraud. In this scenario, fraud visiates everything and everything that occurs due to the fraud and after the fraud is thrown out. My hope is this would include all laws and dictates that have occurred since 1-20-21.

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– DarkSamus61 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

Hmm since there is a case of fraud even in states that trump won. I think even red states should participate in decertification then.

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– quai24 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Agreed. This is not about Trump at this point, and that needs to be understood by the public before the military steps in. Trump essentially used himself as bait.

I believe the whole point of these moves is not necessarily to prove that Trump won, but to prove that foreign interference corrupted the 2020 election to the point that none of the results can be trusted.

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– DarkSamus61 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I wish I had the article at hand but I remember the dems being offended some red state(I Think Oklahoma) would consider a forensic audit. That says a lot. It comes off as please keep eyes on Arizona but please don't look under your own bed.

Yes we need Arizona but if you reveal the fraud in the Red states its easier to prove the fraud in other states.

Edit: Also who steps in when all the elected officials results are decertified? How does that work?

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– 1KewKlew7 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If this is the case it should just be the red states that start decertifing even though Trump won them the election was still fraudulent and therefore should be decertified and that will get the ball rolling as we need!

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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Absolutely.

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– DarkSamus61 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I mean this fraud is definitely effecting down ballot issues too. I want trump in office but I would much rather know my vote is being counted no matter who is in office. So this absolutely a red state issue. Even if Oklahoma decertifies before Arizona it still at least starts the ball rolling.

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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

u/#Correct

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– Passthatwrench 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This is my favorite gif, wrong is my second favorite πŸ‘

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– Dr8nDaSwamp 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Pretty sure downvotes would prove the placement of all major ferrel Cities officials, probably for close to two decades. Probably been Red this whole time. There would be no Antifa, BLM, Obumercare, no gay bs, and so so so much more. I pray to God these people hang for what they've done to us and our families. So much money stolen. Country ruined. SMH.

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– Batoutofhellsing 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Not to mention businesses families and lives destroyed and ended and political prisoners etc.

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– Shalimar 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I 100% agree. Was MY vote one of the "flipped" votes in my state? I don't care that overall Trump won my state even with cheating - flipped votes means someone's votes were canceled. Bullshit

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– raggedyman74 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Why haven't they then?

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– Flounder2177 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Well stated.

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– Rooks 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This is correct.

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– MYHM 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Great summary. Fraud in the execution is the specific legal term he used.

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– Lopeover 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Fraudulent & knowingly. There is nothing that is a fraud that sustains any kind of certification.

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– MAG768720 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Nonsense.

That would allow any state to refuse to certify, and suddenly no election can ever be completed.

No way.

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– Flynnknows 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

ok, let's follow this theory through. Are you saying that in 2017 if New York, or Cali "decertified " their electors then Trump would no longer have been president (and Obama would be)? Is it that easy for one state to remove a president? Seems a bit illogical to me.

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– judypatriot 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Precedent law - Fraud vitiates ALL. So, if any fraud is proven.....

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– TrappedInBlueState 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Proving fraud would indicate that he did not legally win. Just proving in one state would make his entire administration fraudulent.

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– KittyQ 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

This country should be called the divided states of America. We are more divided that ever. It is so, so, so sad.

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– Oh_Well_ian 50 points 4 years ago +50 / -0

I disagree. When the final numbers come out on the Election, you'll see how united we actually are.

The MSM and Big Tech are providing the narrative you're repeating.

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– Burto_87 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

So much this

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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

u/#Correct

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– AussieSpectator 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The Big Lie

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– MisprisionIsEvil 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

When I talk to friends, family and clients, we're divided. I can't even speak to about a dozen people now and have lost clients. It isn't propaganda.

Maybe when the pedophile rumors are proven there will be unity, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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– inspir3dgenius 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

You're not divided, they just haven't realized it yet.

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– CrimsonSentinal 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Wrong. You’re getting high on your own litter Kitty. America is not divided. The psychotic Dems are in the minority easily by 25%. You’ve been misled and lied to by MSM. More than 75+% of the American population doesn’t agree with the Dem’s socialist ideologies.

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– KittyQ 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Oh fucking ew I don’t watch MSM just from the last year of them trying to divide us it seemed like we were divided. However, seeing all of these patriots marching in the streets daily has shown me that we are not divided nor are we alone. Sorry for being a doomer, I tend to lose hope sometimes.

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– Donny_Fiasco 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Viewed from a small sampling, like your workplace or even home town, you can feel overwhelmed by these ass hats. But as you broaden the scope, zoom out, you're not surrounded by them. 6% of 350 million is what...20 million give it take. That 20 million looks and feels huge until you understand they are just islands in a sea of 300 million+

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– Based_in_Space 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

And any orders to the military become unlawful orders. Such as order to get vaxxed.

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– AReckoningIsComing 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

they need to act/expose it mainstream before mid september then when the mandate takes effect

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– deleted 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0
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– tumbleweed 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

A president is not president of just 49 states when Arizona decertifies it electoral votes.

It doesn't matter how many electoral votes Biden stole.

Each and every state's electoral votes matter.

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– CMAnon 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Please Lord, let it be so.

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– quai24 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I've had similar thoughts. Fraud vitiates everything. Do you have a link to Neon's post?

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– muhqtardtho 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He's on gab so it's probably there since it's not a 200 page essay.

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– quai24 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I am not on Gab

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– y000danon 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

To anyone gaslighting themselves with β€œIt’s better to leave Zhou buyed-Him President cuz this Will destabilize the country” - just remember all of the theater of riots you saw last summer.

That was Jack shit and nothing.

Your ancestors fought and died and you have the audacity to pussy out cuz things might get bumpy?

Go ducking suck your thumb in the corner. These people were happy to throw special needs people in rooms for a year and pretend they didn’t even exist.

This is my hill. This is your hill. So what if you didn’t choose it!

PATRIOT THE FUCK UP

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– Shalimar 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

We are unstable allowing a lie to stand. Agree with you 1000%

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– Battlefield 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Nobody here thinks it's better to leave a thief in power. Everyone here wants Pedo Joe to face the consequences of treason.

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– MidnightDriver 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

If Arizona decertifies, it's confirmed Biden WAS NEVER President of the United States

FTFY

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– yoohoo 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

nuke-eyes Pepe smiling

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– TurdFergueson 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

u/#pepenuke

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– VetforTrump 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I think the military has a plan.

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– Burmeister 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yes

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– TSearch 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Wish that was correct, but confused by how it can be. Maybe the technicality is that the January 6th proceeding would now be void? But lacking decertification of enough states to take Biden down to 269 electoral votes wouldn’t this worthless Congress just rubber stamp another phony electoral victory? Unless it can be proven they violated their oaths and knowingly certified a fraudulent result?

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– GoingCamaro 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Certification should have never happened.

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– PhantomStranger 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Correction: He was never certified in the first place. He's not president and never was.

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– CQVFEFE 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He's still president in a sense because the treason of Jan 7 has yet to be reversed.

He's also NEVER BEEN PRESIDENT in a sense, because fraud vitiates everything at the instant the fraud happens, not when it is discovered or corrected.

The Constitutional crisis is already upon us. 99 percent of people haven t found out yet

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– young_roshi 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Bai Deng's "presidency" is hanging on by the thinnest of threads but man is it persisting.

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– Katrina241 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Could you supply a timestamp on one of the videos showing where this was discussed?

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– Lordnigel 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Truly unprecedented territory. Never in our entire nations history has a state de certified it’s election results. It absolutely needs to happen if justice is to prevail however. MAGA!

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– quai24 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Also, isn't this more or less the same idea that u/Wayshuba was getting at?

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– PridefulLion 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Been missing Neon. Whatever happened to his deep dive articles?

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– Trump2020PogChamp 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

my popcorn is ready!

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– Awakened 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Look, I’m not trying to be cute. Buy radiation pills. Get away from the massive cities. Have six months of food. You’ll have to share, so have some padding.

Hell is coming and Death is at his side.

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– AReckoningIsComing 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

you sound like tim pool

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– Batoutofhellsing 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If he sounded like Tim Pool he would say "or maybe not" because he usually does that with predictions so people don't call him on it if he's wrong and ask for donations lol

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– AReckoningIsComing 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

fair enough lol

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– Batoutofhellsing 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Just a joke but yeah, totally get what you mean Tim Pool is doomer pilling people which is partly why i quit watching him besides the grifting and bad opinions like criticism of Andy Ngo for risking his life to report on antifa and wanting to get rid of anonymity. He has to stay in good terms with YouTube so he still shills for the establishment.

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– AReckoningIsComing 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

He annoys me when he just casually keeps saying gEt oUt oF tHE cItieS, yO like it is possible for people to just up and move their families, and honestly, why should we? Why should we abandon the city and cede ground to the enemy?

He keeps telling people basically to give up and run away, like they wont start coming for you in the countryside after they've subsumed the cities.

He rubs the fact he's a wealthy millionaire in our face and just constantly grifts.

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– Batoutofhellsing 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

EXACTLY, not everyone has the privilege of being able to just get up and go where they want on a whim because not everyone has money like that and mass donations from people right to his wallet. Other people have a family unlike him so it's harder to move and people with certain pets have to worry about going over state lines as well if they need to cross one state to get to another. Giving ground should be avoided with these people because give an inch they take a mile but the politicians that are supposed to represent us refuse to even take the inch until trump kicked them in the ass and most still won't. He uses his guests as clickbait then talks over them and is an ignorant condescending shill. He chose his side with the mainstream narrative about Biden and the stolen election.

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– LongTimeListener 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I dont know if this will happen but I am preparing for it and urging friends and family to do the same. It is a distinct possibility it will happen at least to some degree unless the Plan works to perfection.

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– magavoices 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What is the point of using a name faggot paytriot to regurgitate something even a retard would know?

This brings more questions than answers.

Question #1: Is there anyone on this board who didn't know if Arizona decertifies, that Biden won't be president?

Question #2: Does truth become truthier when it's stated by someone who has divided the Q community more than once?

Question #3: Should we all become paytriots because the things we say become more important when we've made money from the Q movement?

Question #4: Should we all adopt a glowing name moniker and drop the "anon" schtick Q wanted us to do so we can state the obvious and it suddenly becomes more important, because Glowie McGlowing Glowboy said it instead of an anon?

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– Brent75 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It will happen quickly after this Symposium. WWG1WGA

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– FreeinFL2020 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What proof do you have of this?

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– Brent75 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If you don’t understand The Plan. Then you aren’t in the know.

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– FreeinFL2020 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No one here seems to understand the plan. No one here is β€œin the know”

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– SuckaFree 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Ho many votes was POTUS45 short? No, this has to happen in the other contested States, too. And even then, [they] won't accept it quietly or nicely.

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– Wormself 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I’m going with this guy … but I would be called a doomer or shill or something … August 2022

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– muhqtardtho 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

No you'll just be called wrong because that's not how this works.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

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No doxing, including revealing personal information of non-public figures, as well as addresses, phone numbers, etc. of public figures. All GAW users must adhere to the highest standards of conduct, whichever .WIN they are on. If we are notified by other moderators of incivil behavior on other .WINs, you WILL be banned here!



Civil Discussion ONLY**

They want you divided.

They want you labeled by race, religion, class, sex, etc.

Divided you are weak [no collective power].

Divided you attack each other and miss the true target [them].



No PAYtriots/No Self Promotion

Linking or promoting merchandise, fundraising, or spamming personal websites, blogs, or channels is not permitted. Do not attempt to profit from Q or advertise for those who do. Peace is the prize. We do it for free.



Questions and Concerns

All moderation questions and concerns should be submitted via modmail. DO NOT GRIEF the mods.



Expand your thinking

Remember, this .WIN is the public face of the Great Awakening, and, as a member here, you agree to represent the Great Awakening movement against Globalism, Communism and Progressive Insanity in the best, most positive way possible. NOTE: Your comments and posts may become news. Keep it classy!

This is not a 'fringe conspiracy' site: Visit https://conspiracies.win if that's your thing!



No doomers or shills

If you can't use common sense, you'll get banned without hesitation. If you're a shill, you fall under this rule. If you're a doomer, you fall under this rule as you just add garbage to the site like the other two. This includes forum sliding.



General Rules

  • Mods will issue NO warnings, followed by temporary bans and/or permanent bans. DO NOT GRIEF THE MODS.

  • Keep posts related to topics Q has raised or that are current.

  • Keep post duplication (especially from other .WINs) to a minimum.

  • HIGH EFFORT, HIGH-INFO posts only! Please respect other readers' time. Please use descriptive titles. No URLs in titles, pls. No clickbait.

  • No fame-fagging; no, "your" post did not get removed! Were you the original author?? Eyes on the prize, people!

  • Memes encouraged, but no low-quality, low-info posts.

  • Keep it honest and accurate.

  • GAW Supporters ONLY. (Sorry, the train had no brakes.)

  • Handshake noobs will be scrutinized by their Q knowledge, sincerity, and respect.

  • Remember, your conduct here represents the Q movement! OUR ENEMIES ARE WATCHING!

  • Please direct all complaints to modmail first!


Resources


WELCOME TO THE DIGITAL BATTLEFIELD


"River of Search" script:


GAW post formatting tips


Q Research (Q only posts at 8kun)


Q post archives (qagg.news) others 1 2 3 4


Browse Drops from the beginning


QProofs.com


Learn to read the Q map


Book of Q Proofs v1.3 (pdf)


Law of War & Majic Eyes Qnly Resources


Trumps twitter archive


POTUS: The Calm Before The Storm


Pedosta and DNC dumps


GIFs & QPosts


Poll Post Format


SPY ON US! See: mod Logs


The Greatest Show on Earth!


New to Q? "The Earth Chronicles Ep 12: Q & The White-Hat Op: What's Real, What's Not?"


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