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posted ago by GoingCamaro ago by GoingCamaro +279 / -1

So just a few short weeks ago there was talk and and panic about New York prepping for a nuclear fallout type of incident. Now with the narrative that President Trump had the nuclear codes or whatever, one must ponder the possibility that they are getting ready for their false flag event involving nuclear weapons...

I really hope I am over thinking this...

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289m 51 points ago +51 / -0

pretty sure you are under thinking it. patriots in control... i doubt they'll let a nuke go off, especially on US soil

u/#q528

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catsfive 20 points ago +21 / -1

The point is to blame Trump (he leaked nuclear codes) for it

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289m 18 points ago +19 / -1

of course; they would love to be able to do that. but they aren't in control

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Unitymyass 6 points ago +6 / -0

who was in control when the windowless building was pounded with that energy ...remember the rv was blamed, not much talk about it just like vegas

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ShillKiller 3 points ago +3 / -0

Please, refresh my memory.

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An_Extinct_DQDQ_Bird 11 points ago +11 / -0

The Nashville, Tennessee explosion on early morning Christmas 2020 that was major news at the time for all of 5-10 minutes and vanished out of thin air quicker than taxpayer money at a congressional hearing.

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FFSLostMyPassword 4 points ago +4 / -0

Something to do with an AT&T/Verizon building being involved if my memory serves me right

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BatteryBaron 1 point ago +1 / -0

Remember how many were killed during this operation? We thought at the time it was the work of patriots

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ShillKiller 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ok, the reference to the building threw me off. I definitely remember that bombing, but, had no knowledge of said windowless building. What's the deal with that building?

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BatteryBaron 7 points ago +7 / -0

Dec 25 2020 Nashville

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mmtwo 2 points ago +2 / -0

wasnt there nsa data storage there and something tying dominion voting ..too

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BatteryBaron 2 points ago +2 / -0

I recall that yes. Supposed DOD black site ?

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Unitymyass 6 points ago +6 / -0

27 days ago you joined> search bar top right ..you got some homework ahead,get busy

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meekturtle 2 points ago +2 / -0

Search bar works for you? Doesn’t for me.

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ShillKiller 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lmao, I've been here since the Reddit exodus.

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Bedminster 2 points ago +2 / -0

BINGO.

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ovitz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump raided his own house?

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289m -1 points ago +1 / -2

nobody said that. but its unlikely that anything was compromised unless they allowed it to be.

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needorganization 10 points ago +10 / -0

That one's gonna boomerang HARD on these fools if they do. Like, really hard.

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johnkongsang 5 points ago +5 / -0

he swapped the nukes code for the nudes code and glowies gonna unsuspectingly launch a new trove of hunter pics

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GoingCamaro [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Also what I am thinking.

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Starseed 3 points ago +3 / -0

So what if its not on US soil?

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GoingCamaro [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

MAD?

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ILoveIvermectin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Swallwel has already commented on narrative. Weeks of nuclear warnings in the media.

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GoingCamaro [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

That's where I am leaning. However that doesn't negate the possibility.

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289m 4 points ago +4 / -0

i believe it does.

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AReckoningIsComing 6 points ago +7 / -1

either they wont or the aliens wont.

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Strelnieks 3 points ago +3 / -0

That card seems like the very last they would play, as it would best be saved if their goals actually came to fruition.

So, that's reassuring in a way.

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Starseed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just because theyre more advanced beings doesnt mean theyre infallible. Nice to have that kinda ally but they do too

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AReckoningIsComing 0 points ago +1 / -1

they've already performed shows of strength and capabilities by shutting down nuclear bases etc

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Starseed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right but what happens when the cabal's friends from high places lock our friends into combat or internal sabotage? Will they still be able to react quickly enough? Id hope so.

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AReckoningIsComing 0 points ago +1 / -1

Of course. Their tech is light years beyond us

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GoatInTheHat 4 points ago +5 / -1

Most of my family took the vax. How are they safe?

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289m 1 point ago +4 / -3

this is not a board for people who want to argue against the drops. i'm not here to defend Q's words.

my family also took the vax. they are fine so far. huge societal changes are coming. and in the end, we are all God's children.

You and your family are safe. Promise.

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ImBillCurtis 4 points ago +4 / -0

Lol. That’s not how it works at all. I’m sure all those construction workers exposed to asbestos said “I worked around it and I’m fine”, or the marines and families drinking tap water at camp lejeune thought “it’s totally safe and no affecting me” too.

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289m -1 points ago +2 / -3

these are unprecedented times... the old paradigm does not apply. i trust Q way more than i trust some doomer

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289m -1 points ago +1 / -2

i'm aware that death and injury exists.

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ImBillCurtis 1 point ago +2 / -1

Apparently not.

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StormBreaker 2 points ago +3 / -1

Guess he left out the ones that were murdered during the "summer of love" and the men women and children that died taking the jab.

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Qanaut 19 points ago +21 / -2

What follows is a comment I made some weeks ago regarding the threat of a radiological event.

My theory is that no detonation will be necessary.

Recall 9/11. Did real aircraft fly into the twin towers? Or were they both rigged with explosives and brought down, while Hollywood news crews composited footage of aircraft into the footage in post production for the media?

Could the media do such a thing again? Could they make enough Americans believe that a detonation had occurred, when in reality it was carefully set explosives and composited mushroom clouds? Radiation could be leaked at select locations to sell the explosion, evacuations and quarantines could be set up to hype the panic, and an EMP could wipe out electronics so no one close to the area could get footage.

This would effectively drive many Americans deep into the Mass Formation Psychosis wherein their critical thinking will be shut down and replaced with narrative induced fear.

We saw this occur on 9/11.

While I believe that this type of event is possible, I do not believe it is likely to occur in this timeline. Certain events would irreversibly place us on a path to World War III. I think such a psy-op, if left unchecked, would do just that.

If the Cabal try to pull this stunt, I think that is when Q and the Military would step forward and tear down the curtain for all the world to see.

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GoingCamaro [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Aircraft DID hit the towers, they just weren't passenger aircraft. Large drones designed to look like aircraft? Absolutely. But there is too much eyewitness and armature video for it to have been composite. Yes I have seen the forensic data on the news archives. That doesn't explain how millions of eye witnesses SAW the planes hit and recorded it on their personal devices. But no they did not bring the buildings down.

That said... you make a valid point. They could have it go off offshore and do their little smoke and mirrors show and set off dirty bombs to sell the narrative. The only plothole in their story will be the lack of electromagnetic interference. But the way you describe things possibly going down could happen.

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catsfive [M] 9 points ago +9 / -0

I saw the 2nd plane

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GoingCamaro [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

You mean no holograms or lazor beams!?!

I know it's a long shot... But were you close enough to see any key details that would make it stick out like a commercial liner?

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catsfive 1 point ago +1 / -0

No. The recent leaked VHS is almost exactly what I saw. I plane spot, I could tell it was a 767 but it impacted SO fast

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Lance-White 1 point ago +1 / -0

From my research there were no planes. They were CGI'd in after the fact. A plane simply can not penetrate into a steel reinforced building in its entirety with one fake view point showing the complete nose of the plane coming out the other side of the building. That unto itself destroys the plane narrative.

With one huge exception with the theory of project blue beam.

A helicopter reported explosions only. They were promptly ordered out of the area.

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GoingCamaro [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

How did they composite personal recording devices?

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Lance-White 1 point ago +1 / -0

Either plants or blue beam. We know Massad was there celebrating the towers being demolitioned. There were no airplane parts on the ground. Maybe others can weigh in here.

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QKek 1 point ago +1 / -0

From my research there were no planes. They were CGI'd in after the fact.

If you really believe this then you are a fucking retard. There are thousands of New Yorkers that were on the streets that day and they all saw the planes (Trump included!). Were they just...what? Mass hypnotized? Massively bribed? Every single one of them is lying for some fucked up reason?

"From my research."

Can you tell us what exactly your research consists of?

"Project Blue Beam"

There are a lot of things that happen in the world that make me wonder what's actually going on but when you say fucking stupid shit like this it is literally insulting.

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Lance-White 1 point ago +1 / -0

Once again the videos showing planes completely cut through steel reinforced buildings to the wingtips like a hot knife through butter is impossible. That I do know and understand.

Even Trump on that day questioned how the hell that happened

If a big bird smashes into the nose of a plane it destroys it yet one of the videos shows a plane coming through the other side of the building intact like a ghost.

There were no actual planes hitting the buildings .

Now you can light your hair on fire because you simply can't understand nor deal with it then disrespect and attack me from the safety of your keyboard at home but that's not going make you right.

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QKek 1 point ago +1 / -0

And what do you say to everyone in NYC (a moderator here included) that literally saw the event with their own eyes? That your bullshit basement keyboard theories are more believable than what they saw and personally witnessed?

You have not actually answered any of my questions with anything other than your obviously uneducated opinion of what is 'impossible' because you 'know and understand'.

All your retarded ranting and pretending you know anything about what you speak won't make you right either. Personally I will tend to believe the people that were actually on the streets that day over some brain dead fucktard typing bullshit from his mancave.

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Lance-White 1 point ago +1 / -0

Believe what you want. I don't care.

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QKek 1 point ago +1 / -0

And you can jerk off to your bullshit fantasy land all you want. But when you post your shit here it makes all of us look like fucking retards. You directly insult the mod here who was an eyewitness without so much as an apology or even an acknowledgment that you are posting made up shit. Fuck you and your shit, you are directly contributing to the detriment of this site. Your shit is worse than if a lefty was made a Moderator because you claim to be one of us when in fact you are just making us all look stupid. You are an attack from within.

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DeathRayDesigner -4 points ago +1 / -5

There are no drones the size and shape of a 767 and the passengers are dead and gone. The buildings came down as they did, no mystery about it. Those who think there is a mystery are laboring under ignorance of the relevant facts (like the fact that the burning temperature of jet fuel is about twice that at which structural steel loses all its strength).

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sergiodv 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don’t think the comment on jet fuel burning temperature being twice the temperature of structural steel losing its strength is correct. Tenebre that this building was built to withstand a plane cashing into it.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can look up steel strength for yourself. https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/metal-temperature-strength-d_1353.html And jet fuel (kerosene) flame tempeature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiabatic_flame_temperature

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Lance-White 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here one of many videos on the deception.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/clcE5rMvhmxC/

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

Which proves what? There is nothing remarkable about those clips. Of course the airplane would "sink" into the side of the building. What else could it do? Are the building walls going to go anywhere? It is interesting to see that the engines were stripped off and left at the face of the building, which is consistent with the fact that they had a lot of frontal area and not as much sectional density as the rest of the airplane.

The "raw video" and "newscast" images were not taken from the same line of sight. The airplane may have been out of image for the "raw video" clip, or too faint to be resolved. What deception? All you have is a desire to see something you think cannot be true, or cannot be explained.

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Lance-White 1 point ago +1 / -0

Airplanes don't sink into a steel reinforced building. They usually splatter then fall down

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

Says the man who doesn't know what he is talking about. This happened before in 1945 when a B-25 bomber crashed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building. https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/the-b-25-empire-state-building-crash-tragedy-on-34th-street/ There is no "usually." When you have 179 tons of airliner hitting a building at 465 mph, the building will give way.

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GoingCamaro [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Please educate yourself with New Pearl Harbor.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

There may have been plots behind the scenes, in which case, who was there to witness anything? A dead trail.

The buildings came down in the only way that could be expected. The only arguments I have seen to the contrary are by people who are ignorant of combustion and steel construction.

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DeathRayDesigner 0 points ago +1 / -1

You have no interest in passing along information. What is "New Pearl Harbor"? Obviously, it is something you cannot describe in a few sentences. I'm already educated, and I don't need to waste my time.

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Lance-White 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thermite explosives we're planted by Mossad. The buildings were then brought down, floor by floor. If you haven't studied this or gone down this rabbit hole you have to spend hours to catch up.

This has happened to me each and every time I learn a new truth.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

First, thermite is NOT an explosive. You are already mistaken about a key point. It is an incendiary agent. And what would be your evidence that any thermite was present, when everything about aluminum airplanes burning in a steel building would create the same combustion products?

Once the columns of a given floor buckle, in an environment of weakened steel strength, the floor will collapse instantly (the loads get shifted at the speed of sound, which is several thousand feet per second in steel), and there will be a pancake collapse of the entire column. Once it gets started, there is no stopping.

You will necessarily go down a rabbit hole---because you haven't learned about civil engineering. Mossad? You are filling your ignorance with prejudice.

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Lance-White 1 point ago +1 / -0

So nothing to see here with the way the entire plane entered the buildings like a cartoon?

And you have feelings for Mossad? That's a first here. Have you not heard of the dancing Mossad agents caught red handed as the towers were coming down?

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is exactly what one could expect to see. The airplane had insuperable momentum and simply plunged into the building. Building wreckage would be carried inward with the airplane. You can see that the engines had been stripped off their struts and left at the outer wall. You have things all mixed up in your head. That's the way it happens. Show me a cartoon that does that. They all show an outward explosion, right?

What's with your obsession about the Mossad? Do you also believe monsters lurk in your closet?

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AReckoningIsComing 2 points ago +3 / -1

it would be too late by then as most normies would believe it was Trump's fault.

Also, lots of people said they saw Planes on the day. These arent shills but normal working joes on the ground. I think there was Bluebeam holograms of Planes covering directed energy weapons

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StormBreaker 0 points ago +1 / -1

Is this the same military who waves the homo/freaks flag proudly and made it so that if anyone spreads the gospel is subject to military disciplinary action while Satanists are welcomed with open arms? The same military who promotions are based on gender or race? (that is to say if you're a straight white man, you are out of luck) The same military that is represented by leaders in drag? Those guys will come to the rescue?

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6thcolumn 12 points ago +13 / -1

WILL NEVER HAPPEN. This is noise.

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GoingCamaro [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

It wasn't considered "noise" when all the panic about nuclear fall out was all the buzz. People were asking "why would they do this" and well... here I am adding a possible piece to that puzzle.

Yes it could have been fear porn. Or this is setup for the October surprise. Patriots might have control of the US nuclear arsenal, but that doesn't account for ALL nuclear weapons in the world.

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MAGULQ 11 points ago +11 / -0

FF (scare) is possible for narrative purposes. Another possibility is comms. Nuclear often refers to explosive information, usually the blackmail/pedo variety.

https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2021/09/08/nuclear-q/

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ILoveIvermectin 4 points ago +4 / -0

Jr just posted “everything is epstein”.

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MAGULQ 4 points ago +4 / -0

🐸💥

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6thcolumn 9 points ago +9 / -0

That said, they planted dirty bombs under the WTC in 93 and it didn't take...they did it again in 2001

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AReckoningIsComing 2 points ago +3 / -1

why did they wait so long

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StormBreaker 1 point ago +2 / -1

One of the beliefs these freaks have is numerology, in other words magic. They're are also big on symbolism. They think that there will be no blow back if you inform your enemy on what you are going to do and by blow back I mean no mystical repercussions, like in bad karma or some such nonsense. To make a long story short, these freaks have too much time on their hands.

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alien123 8 points ago +8 / -0

they will claim there is nuclear radiation in the air, on dust, on food and water, and that you have to stay inside, and vote by mail.

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alien123 7 points ago +7 / -0

magnetic particles in vaccines means you set off EMF detector which will trick people into thinking they are radiated.

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Unitymyass 2 points ago +2 / -0

yes this who knows what evil they have planned with that injection

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

Magnetic particles in a vaccine may possibly be detected by a very sensitive magnetometer---but a magnetometer is not designed to detect an electromagnetic force (EMF) or an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). If someone is radioactive, the appropriate detector is a Geiger Counter, which does not detect magnetic particles or EMF/EMP. If one is irradiated, too bad. There is no detector for that, unless you are wearing a dosimeter. The only people who will be tricked will be the profoundly ignorant---of which, unfortunately, there are vast multitudes.

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alien123 4 points ago +4 / -0

they did a nuclear radiation simulation just like they did the monkey pox and covid. it was over a year ago.

it is 100% likely

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wQkeAF 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yep, totally on the same wavelength!

As soon as the nuclear narrative dropped, the NYC emergency mgmt video started to make sense.

Then again, I’m not convinced this was coordinated. The “Trump’s got nuclear docs” talking points - I think - was a hail mary by the intel shills on msnbc to try and save face. Because the raid didn’t quite have the public reaction they were hoping for.

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GoingCamaro [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

I hope for the sake of innocents that you are right. And if I look stoopid for making this post, so be it.

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wQkeAF 5 points ago +5 / -0

It’s not stupid, it’s a theory. And a plausible one

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GoingCamaro [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

And I hope it's stupid...

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mikejones 7 points ago +7 / -0

Don't they change the damn nuclear codes?

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GoingCamaro [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

The process to actually launch a missile is a LOT more involved than punching up numbers on the football. You have to have approval from Combatant Commanders as well. Contrary to popular belief, the President can't just fire a nuke at any time willy nilly.

But the normies won't understand. What will happen is they will set one off and blame Trump. And that's all there will be to it. I made this post in the hopes that "predicting" it will cause the derp state to change their plan or at the very least this post can be used as proof that we saw it coming. If I look like an idiot concern troll in the end, fine. It's a very small price to pay to avoid a false flag of the nuclear variety...

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

"....they will set one off..."

I doubt it very strongly. Nuclear weapon systems have safing and fuzing systems that require the weapon to be on its delivery trajectory before it is physically possible for the device to be detonated. It can't be an ICBM; they are all programmed with Russian targets (presumably). Same thing with an SLBM. Same thing with the primary strategic bombers. What you have left are possibly tactical nuclear weapons and now you have to invoke the existence of a secret Hydra-like renegade tactical bomber wing that can mobilize and launch with a live weapon. I don't think there is such a thing. That is invoking too much magic. Control over nuclear weapons is possibly even more important than the technology to make them. For us and for anyone.

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Wexit-Delecto 1 point ago +1 / -0

They have a nuclear sub. Remember the missile they launched at President Trump’s plane off Ketron Island.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Navy has nuclear submarines. There are no rogue submarines. It is still unclear what happened at Ketron Island. It could have been an SLBM launch, but that requires two independent launch authorizations according to the code for that missile. Lately, the submarines have been put under Permission Active Link (PAL) control, so fully independent launch should be physically impossible.

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Wexit-Delecto 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Ketron island event revealed a possible rogue submarine, the USS Richard Russell (coincidentally, the same name as the guy who, if you can believe it, stole a 787 and did a barrel loop in it before crashing it into Ketron island).

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

SSN-687. Decommissioned in 1994, more than 20 years ago. Not even a ballistic missile submarine. There are no rogue submarines, because they would require a rogue base of operations, rogue Blue and Gold crews, rogue supplies and maintenance, including rogue nuclear reactor refueling. Can you see where this is all leading? To Fantasy Island. Where there are lots of people named "Richard Russell" (just ask Google). This is so lame, it could be a millipede.

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Wexit-Delecto 1 point ago +1 / -0

North Korea is the presumed sub base in this theory. North Korea appears propped up by the swiss banks. Perhaps retrofitted with missile capabilities, maybe launched from Ketron island, as there’s spoopy ass shit going on there too.

Recall, in Q 1845 and 1846, that Q highlighted the kind of aircraft (Q400, not 787, my bad) that Richard Russell stole and crashed into Ketron island. The sub in question, the Richard B Russell, was allegedly decommissioned in Puget Sound right where the missile event took place. The story of doing a barrel roll is unbelievable in the extreme, he was no pilot and that plane isn’t made for such maneuvers. And then the news tried to pass the missile off as a helicopter.

I dunno man, I’m not convinced it’s nothing.

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RugerP89 1 point ago +1 / -0

The freakout regarding "nukes" among Elites, propagated by the Media, is referring to something particularly lethal to Elites. It is not lethal to us.

Nukes symbolize blackmail evidence. Of the nation-ending variety. Uranium One = 9/11. When Q mentions "BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM", they are not necessarily physical explosions.

https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2021/09/08/nuclear-q/

u/#q48

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ChronicMetamorphosis 6 points ago +6 / -0

https://qalerts.app/?n=568

Check out the movie Wargames

This should illuminate the path.

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normalstreet 6 points ago +6 / -0

Which AG is has an inquiry out against Trump?

New York

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GoingCamaro [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

And where are they planning their nuclear false flag?

New York.

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normalstreet 4 points ago +4 / -0

Are there any coincidences?

No.

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BIGRED1993 5 points ago +5 / -0

Said this exact thing to a friend after it was released that “nuke stuff” was found. Complete garbage but what a way to spin the ff event.

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GoingCamaro [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Anons were asking why they were putting this stuff out there and now I think we have an answer... I think they will wait until October to attempt their false flag event... that will also be the month of the first Q post coming up on a five year delta...

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NCSWIC2020x2 5 points ago +5 / -0

So here’s a totally anecdotal and not very credible piece of info…my employee you is a red pilled normie was with his distant family this weekend. His uncle apparently “works for the President”. Had a few drinks in him and says something to the effect that we are going to be in a war before the midterms. Wouldn’t elaborate and seemed to check himself like he said too much.

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GoingCamaro [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah... I could see that being the case, but also, we've been at war for some time now.

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Morpheus11 5 points ago +8 / -3

Are you sure nuclear bombs even exist? Could "nukes" be yet another tool the cabal used to generate fear amongst the sheeple?

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GoingCamaro [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

They could be. But considering the millions of historical accounts thereof, no it's not that likely. They use nukes as a fear porn tool, no doubt there, but the science is fairly easy to understand and follow. Remember, we use nuclear power so it does exist.

As far as an actual weapon goes, they are probably the dumbest one man ever came up with. Yeah we can decimate our enemies, but in the process we make their lands unlivable and therefore unconquerable... sounds like a shit deal all around.

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Morpheus11 10 points ago +11 / -1

Maybe. I haven't made up my mind. And I'm talking about weaponized fusion, not power generating fission.

Have you ever compared photos of Dresden and Tokyo (phosphorous fire bombings) with Hiroshima and Nagasaki? They look identical. Concrete structures all standing, even at "ground zero", wood/paper all burned away. You'd never be able to differentiate between the two if I showed you pictures without telling you where they were from.

Did you know that food vendors were back on the streets in Hiroshima 2 days after the bombings? And they were clearing out the debris and rebuilding within a week of both Hiroshima and Nagasaki? So much for radiation fallout, eh?

Did you know nobody was allowed to take photos at Nagasaki and Hiroshima except for two guys, both with the OSS (former CIA)? And that the OSS is who released all known photos of both? Zero independent sources.

Have you ever watched the government released videos of nuclear bomb explosions? Loaded with obvious forkery and CGI (like clouds not moving). Other government videos of nuke tests are obvious tiny models, but passed off as legit.

Have you seen the guy who says he worked within the US nuclear power plants for 20+ years and used to drink the water and bathe in the nuclear rod reactor pools? I wonder why he would make all that up?

Did you know we spent over $2 billion dollars on the Manhattan project, which is probably equivalent to $2 trillion in todays fiat currency. That's a lot of time, money, energy and resources spent on something that was never guaranteed to work in the first place. Would our government be open to admitting that it was all a giant waste or would you expect them to whip up some propaganda to reassure the people that it was all worth it in the end?

It occurs to me that everything we know about nuclear bombs is 100% government provided, whether us or the Soviet Union. And the US taxpayer paid for the entire Soviet regime all the way through 1992 (See "The Best Enemy Money Can Buy" by Antony Sutton). So the cold war was also pure propaganda. Fear, layered on fear, wrapped in fear.

Basically my position today is, I haven't seen any convincing facts, but instead, mountains of government propaganda, much of it provably fake. In a nutshell, where there's smoke there's fire.

I'm just surprised more people here don't pause and think it through a bit, especially after all the lies and deceptions being uncovered on a daily basis.

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WelshBasedMan 4 points ago +4 / -0

What was the name of the nuclear guy you talk about? I remember seeing a video of him years ago. Saying it he used to carry two pieces of reactive material of he exact same size, in either pocket on each side of his lab coat. Because he knew he was the only thing stopping the critical mass. Dwight gayler? Or something along those lines

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Morpheus11 3 points ago +3 / -0

Galen Windsor. Here's his presentation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ8WsEHX1B0

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WelshBasedMan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you fren. That name has evaded me for quite some time

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ElGoyimLoSabe 3 points ago +3 / -0

The book 'War Against Goyim' by Chris Caskie offers a lot of sources to backup the claim of nukes being an illusion, such as:

Hiroshima revisited by Michael Palmer

Nuke Lies forum

Death Object: Exploding The Nuclear Weapons Hoax by Akio Nakatani

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Morpheus11 1 point ago +1 / -0

Excellent shares my friend. It seems there are still quite a few not yet ready to entertain this idea. I've read Palmer's book and visited the "Nuke Lies" forum but had never heard of Nakatani's book. I just ordered it and look forward to adding it to my stack of red pill books!

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Wtf_socialismreally 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cooling pools of water never touch radioactive material, FYI. You also just separated "fusion based weapons and power generating fission", and then brought nuclear power into the discussion again. Which is it? We already know that water in nuclear power plants is recycled, as it's literally only there for its thermal conductivity, like water cooling a graphics card or processor. It doesn't touch anything radioactive.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +2 / -1

Unfortunately, there has been too much sensational bullshit about nuclear weapons. The fact that there is no evidence to confirm the bullshit does not mean that the evidence disproves the reality.

There are differences between firestorms and a nuclear event. For example, there are flash shadows visible on walls of buildings where the outlines of people are shown. That happens only with a hellish illumination from the bomb fireball. My father saw these at the ruins of Nagasaki. I think there would be other differences due to blast effects far from the epicenter. But why bother with speculative nonsense? The bombing crews witnessed the detonations.

Yes, Hiroshima was back in running order (to some extent) within days or weeks. This is true of any devastated city. Building reconstruction takes longer. Fallout went elsewhere, and it wasn't much or very debilitating.

Compare photos with eyewitness recollections. My dad saw it and described it. The photos are consistent with his description. There is no evidence that the photos were fake (is what you are implying).

No fakery with the nuclear test photos. (The Peter Kuran video "Trinity and Beyond" is the best.) You have to be able to sort out the high-speed photos from the others. The fireball moves pretty fast. But there is no abnormality about the clouds not moving. Why should they? They don't move during volcanic eruptions of magnitudes comparable to a nuclear detonation (e.g., Mount St. Helens). The bomb detonation creates a pressure wave, but not a bulk movement of the whole atmosphere. No tiny models of buildings being blown away. You are confused by the lighting conditions and the fact that the filming is high-speed, so the initial illumination seems dark.

I don't know who you are referring to who evidently did swim in a "swimming pool" reactor, but there is no harm in doing so, if you don't linger for hours. There is a lot of fear porn conditioning out there regarding radiation and radioactivity.

The Manhattan Project succeeded, proving the utility of two different fission bomb construction approaches. Your alternatives are both false. "Weaponized fusion" (the H-bomb) was demonstrated by the U.S. in 1952. No fake. An order of magnitude more powerful than the fission process.

The theory of nuclear reactions is an open subject. Read a text on nuclear engineering to get some idea. Then read "The Effects of Nuclear Weapons" by Glasstone to get some insight into how they work and what they do. Everything we know about jet aircraft originally came from the government. Does this mean that our jetliners are figments of our imagination?

I see you conclude with radical skepticism. Your argument can be summarized (in my view) as: "I don't know shit about this subject, so anything said about it is also shit." With that attitude, and limiting yourself to internet gossip, you will never learn anything.

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Morpheus11 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, Hiroshima was back in running order (to some extent) within days or weeks. This is true of any devastated city. Building reconstruction takes longer. Fallout went elsewhere, and it wasn't much or very debilitating.

How and why do you suppose that is? It seems to me that radioactive fallout is the #1 nightmare we've been sold when it comes to nuclear bombs. So the only two that have ever been known to be used produced virtually no harmful radiation? That seems highly suspicious to me and supports the argument that perhaps these were just different types of fire bombings.

Compare photos with eyewitness recollections. My dad saw it and described it. The photos are consistent with his description. There is no evidence that the photos were fake (is what you are implying).

I didn't imply any photos were fake. I suggested the aftermath damages of the Dresden and Tokyo fire bombings looked the same as those of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. So much so, you basically couldn't tell the difference unless you were intimately aware of the city structure and layout prior to.

As to models, some of the examples I've seen were clearly tiny models. I'm not saying all of them were, but some.

I don't know who you are referring to who evidently did swim in a "swimming pool" reactor, but there is no harm in doing so, if you don't linger for hours. There is a lot of fear porn conditioning out there regarding radiation and radioactivity.

Galen Windsor. I think "fear porn" is all we've ever heard when it comes to radioactivity. Windsor suggests exactly that. And this is the basis of the questions I'm asking. The "vaporization" of anything within the blast radius is one highly questionable aspect. But far bigger is the idea that the entire region is going to be radioactive for 50 kajillion years is the much more frightening aspect. Neither of which quite OBVIOUSLY occurred at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Which begs the question...

The theory of nuclear reactions is an open subject. Read a text on nuclear engineering to get some idea. Then read "The Effects of Nuclear Weapons" by Glasstone to get some insight into how they work and what they do. Everything we know about jet aircraft originally came from the government. Does this mean that our jetliners are figments of our imagination?

A false association isn't going to get us anywhere...weak analogy and suggesting such leads me to believe you're not an honest broker here.

I see you conclude with radical skepticism. Your argument can be summarized (in my view) as: "I don't know shit about this subject, so anything said about it is also shit." With that attitude, and limiting yourself to internet gossip, you will never learn anything.

You've now destroyed any chance of having a healthy debate with comments like this in the last two paragraphs. Cya later...

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

The reason that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were "back in the running" was because the fallout threat has been overblown for over half a century. There is fallout and one should have a healthy concern about it. But if the prevailing winds blows it out to the ocean, hardly anyone will have a problem. This is why they situated the big nuclear tests out there. The only problem arose when a Japanese fishing boat happened to be in the fallout zone of one test, and the crew got a strong exposure. You will have to get used to the reality of nuclear weapons, not the Urban Myths. I am serious about "The Effects of Nuclear Weapons." It can be bought from Amazon. Read it. There are lots of interesting facts about such devices. (You will learn about the dual flash from the fireball.)

The photos don't show the blast damage very well, which would have been absent from the firebombing results (which would have burnt most of the structure anyway). The flash shadows of victims are not possible with firebombing. Anyway, as I said, the bomber crews witnessed the flashes and had to get the hell away from the shock wave. One bomber to accomplish what 279 bombers in Operation Meetinghouse did to Tokyo? That's the difference between nuclear weapons and saturation fire bombing.

No tiny models. There is no practical way to simulate the blast effects with models. You are being misled by the lighting conditions, I expect (dark background). You have to realize that these films were taken at very high speed with a very stopped down aperture to prevent the film from being saturated by exposure to the fireball light. Under those conditions, ambient daylight looks like the dark of night. Conventional structure looks flimsy when blown apart with a shock wave, but that is reality. Do you think it is any stronger in the face of a tornado that rips it to shreds in real time? Atmospheric pressure is about a ton per square foot. Differential pressures of even small amounts can develop huge forces against walls and blow them away.

The nukes/jets analogy is exact. Everything we know about nuclear weapons comes from the government. Everything we know about jet aircraft comes from the government. There is no more reason to doubt the existence of nuclear weapons than there is to doubt the existence of jet aircraft. I don't know what you mean by "honest broker," but I am certainly telling the truth. I have had 40 years as a weapons and aerospace vehicle engineer, and my interest is to dispel stupidity and fortify understanding.

You don't like my candid assessment of your intellectual position, so rather than deal with it like an adult, you take your marbles and leave the game. I dislike doing that, so here I am, willing to answer questions or clarify points. You have to realize that what you have accepted as "truth" about nuclear weapons has been pacifist fear porn conditioning. You say you question everything---except the fear porn. If someone says the porn is bogus, you are so attached to it that you accuse the nay-sayer of being a "dishonest broker." Those of us in the industry know that it is impossible for nuclear weapons to wipe out life on Earth---albeit, they could make life pretty miserable for some nations for years. (But even Germany recovered from the widespread devastation of World War II in a decade.) No harm to get back in the game and learn. You might have to question your porn, however.

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Morpheus11 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well I question everything, no exceptions. Especially so when it is coming from a group of proven liars and deceivers. However, if you read my comments with an open mind, you'll see I'm doing three things:

  1. Asking honest questions
  2. Providing examples that are hard to reconcile
  3. Assuming we've been lied to, at least in part

My assertion is that the people/groups that control this world are lying to us about everything that gives them an advantage over the masses that we cannot easily verify for ourselves. Full stop. The PRIMARY ways they take advantage of us are two; First, through fear, and second through division/judgment.

In the case of nukes, it is via fear. A more perfect example of such is hard to find. However, there is one that I harp on all the time here at GA. And that is via the fake construct known as "viruses" which is perhaps an even better way to spread fear; case in point, the past 3 years. I've become an unwilling expert on the subject and I butt heads with hundreds of folks here on GA and in real life that know virtually nothing on the topic, other than they swear up and down that viruses are OBVIOUSLY real because they caught one off their spouse/child/parent/co-worker many times in the past. It is this singular place from which they argue, as if I'm entirely unaware of it.

And I don't mean the muddy the waters here regarding viruses. I'm simply using it as an example of my skepticism versus both "experts" in the field and the masses. I've had a few rounds of argument with some "experts" here in the fields of microbiology and bacteriology. I do understand what they've been taught and I also understand why it is difficult for them to unwind their formal education. Built into the lies are many half-truths as well as truths.

I point all this out to suggest that amidst the deceptions around any given topic are many appearances of truth, as well as some smaller truths. The idea that "the whole thing is a lie" is very rare in my experience.

Which leads us to some of the things you point out.

Your jet engine analogy wasn't worthwhile in my estimation as it's an example of something we can easily verify - we've all been on them, or at a minimum seen them. And secondly, it in no way resembles an attempt to cause us to be fearful. In other words, they're not using jets to take advantage of us. If anything, we could argue that jet engines have been a great benefit to humanity, enabling us to see the world with relative ease.

Now, regarding the models. I'll have to do some digging around and see if I can find some examples for your review. I've seen many videos over the years pointing out problems and anomalies, but I didn't save them and can't really remember which channels/sites they came from. But I'll dig around. Are there examples of legit nuclear tests out there? Almost certainly. But you're of the opinion that there are NO EXAMPLES of fake/phony nuclear tests out there. I find this to be a big weakness and error in your judgment. There are almost certainly both.

Your "candid assessment" of my intellectual opinion demonstrates one painfully obvious fact. You're what I call a "One-Sided-Expert". You've demonstrated that you know nothing of what people who question nukes have to say. Otherwise, you would have mentioned their arguments, understanding where they're coming from, and then pointed out the errors in judgment or logic that they made. But you haven't done any of this, instead you've made SWEEPING arguments that I, and by proxy them, are just 100% completely wrong......because....you say so.

I find this the "One-Sided-Expert" opinion to be amongst the least persuasive at this stage of the collapsing institutional narratives all around us. Case in point, the dozens of virologists that are still in denial of the irrefutable proofs that their specialty is 100% pseudoscience. Ironically, there is really nothing to even argue with them about. They simply ignore/dismiss all that demonstrates the falsity of their position while simultaneously reiterating what they've been taught.

I've lost all respect for them as a group. I do understand how difficult it must be to assess one's life work as being a fraud, and I also understand that admitting such threatens their livelihoods. But considering the insanity we've just been through, and the likelihood that the cabal is going to try it again with some new variation of "SheeplePox" soon enough, their personal egoic cognitive dissonance and financial well-being should have taken a backseat long ago. They are letting down the masses in multiple ways and their failure to address the elephant in the room is going to cause another wave of death and destruction with the next fake virus campaign they unleash as the millions who trust them will look to their guidance in the future. Simply put, those that aren't "in on the scam", like Fauci, Birx, top brass at CDC/NIH, are cowards.

Now, I say all that not to direct any of it your way. You appear to know much of what you're talking about. That's great. I'm interested in engaging with you on the topic. As I've pointed out in this thread, I'm asking questions and haven't yet arrived at a conclusion. What I've said is, I have many doubts. And from my position, having uncovered dozens upon dozens of lies and deceptions over the years, the nuke story smells fishy to me. I'll also add that "the bigger the lie", the easier it is to pass off, and the harder it is for the average person to even consider as a possibility. One such lie is so big, that you get banned here on GA for even talking about it as at least one of the mods here finds it to be so ridiculous that it simply has to be impossible. Said mod is 100% wrong. But convincing him of even a modicum of legitimacy around it has proven impossible. He simply isn't interested, much like the many duped virologists and doctors.

Thus, I'm categorizing you in much the same way. I could be wrong, and I readily admit this, but for now, I see you as a "One-Sided-Expert", knowing much about what you've been taught and involved in, but not knowing much, or perhaps anything, about many of the doubts that have arisen around nukes. At best, you may have heard of some of the doubts and problems around the stories we've been told about nukes from other "One-Sided-Experts" in your field. This is also a BIG PROBLEM as their "version" of the "Other-Side-Experts" is almost always some watered-down, misrepresented version of the facts presented. Once again, case in point, the mainstream virologists who sweep away the problems with their field that have been pointed out by appealing to authority (all my colleagues agree), ad hominem attacks (he stands alone and was de-licensed making him a quack), but mostly, ignoring the simple facts in their efforts to remain relevant.

My question to you is, have you read or seen any materials that cast doubt on the reality of nukes? If so, can you address what these authors/posters are wrong about? To wit, just "saying they're wrong" because you "say so" doesn't help in the least. I would need to know the WHY/HOW/WHAT they are wrong about.

Have you read "Hiroshima Revisited" by Michael Palmer? -> https://ia801705.us.archive.org/2/items/Hiroshima_revisited/hbook-0.9.16.pdf

Have you read "Death Object: Exploding the Nuclear Weapons Hoax" by Akio Nakatani"? -> https://www.amazon.com/Death-Object-Exploding-Nuclear-Weapons/dp/1545516839

Both of these authors have put a lot of effort into investigating the subject of nukes. So much so, that a sweeping argument that "they're wrong" holds no water from my POV. As mentioned, I'd need to see the WHY/HOW/WHAT EXACTLY they are wrong about. Said errors could then be brought to the author's attention for evaluation, rebuttal and/or correction.

Here is my basic stance; I find that when somebody suggests that the other side's position is LUDICROUS/IMPOSSIBLE/ABSURD, that they really know nothing about it, rendering their "One-Sided-Expert" opinion utterly baseless. In poker terms, this is an easy "tell" in the land of conspiracy factuality. I see it every day. And I understand, when it comes to nukes, much like viruses, 99% of the population is likely in this camp as they've had no reason to doubt the official narrative.

So it would be of the utmost value to me, and other people questioning the nuke story, if you would take the time and effort to learn what "the other side experts" have to say and then render a balanced assessment with your new-found knowledge and awareness. Typically, such an assessment reads like: "Those who question nukes make the following interesting points...A,B,C...their skepticism is warranted and their questions are sound, but here is what they failed to understand or take into consideration....yada yada". That's the kind of analysis that gets my attention and sways my opinion.

I've uncovered way too many lies that the masses accept as truths at this stage in my life. The entire field of western allopathic medicine is 90% lies. The entire LEGAL SYSTEM is a grand deception that's so big, nobody can even grasp it without months of study and re-wiring of brain circuits. Our "government" is anything but a government, hijacked long ago (1865) by the Crown Corporation. Nothing short of dissolving it in its entirety will suffice. And then there's that even bigger lie that will go unmentioned as to maintain my ability to post here.

I mention all this so that hopefully you can see that it's easier than you think to pass off MASSIVE lies in all walks of life. They're everywhere. And to suggest that it's impossible/ludicrous/absurd that we've been lied to about nukes doesn't persuade me in the least. If anything, it causes me to dig deeper when I see a subject so wantonly dismissed. It would be one thing if there were just some random posts or videos doubting the veracity of nukes. But when entire 300+ page books have been written on the subject, it's worth a deeper dive and an understanding of what these people have to say.

And on the flip side of that argument, I will admit that a big book does not necessarily indicate truth or veracity. I own the two leading books on oncology (cancer research), both of which are over 3000 pages. That's 6000 pages of massively complex and technical medical-ese jargon. And virtually all of it is fundamentally wrong. Shocking? Most people brush off my assessment as I did not graduate medical school with a degree in oncology. That's their loss. Blind trust in authority is why we find ourselves in the current position we're in.

Lastly, I'll add that one interesting take on the subject of nukes is that it would be a perfectly reasonable position to suggest that the story of nuclear capability would act as a tremendous DETERRENT against future wars/skirmishes by various despots and aggressive nations. The mere thought of having your entire nation vaporized in an instant would be more than enough to stifle leaders with an itchy trigger finger. That could have very well been part of the strategic planning that went into the end of WWII. Obviously we can see that it was quickly turned into "cold war fear", but that may not have been the original intent. Just some extra food for thought.

I'll poke around and see if I can dig up some of the nuke test videos that I found sketchy in the past. I'm not holding out hope that I'll find many as censorship is in full effect today. But I should be able to dig up a few.

In the interim, I'm hoping you read the free book by Palmer so that I can evaluate your newly gained "Multi-Sided-Expertise". If he's fundamentally wrong and you can make a solid case, I'll be more than willing to drop my skepticism. I look forward to it actually. Hearing from somebody who understands both sides of an issue is a rare treat in this day and age!

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

Too long for this venue. You are completely overlooking my connection to material evidence (trinitite from the Trinity test) and direct eyewitness testimony and evidence (my father at Nagasaki and my colleague digging out post-underground-test instrumentation). You are also overlooking the photographic record, and I suggest obtaining a copy of "Trinity and Beyond" or watch the video here: https://ok.ru/video/380190132976. And I worked with colleagues who were instrumental in building nuclear weapon delivery systems (B-36, B-47, B-52, BOMARC, Minuteman, SRAM). I've worked with Los Alamos National Laboratory concerning a defense system concept that involved nuclear devices. This is actual technology. You are like the guy who is telling me there are no zebras. I'm not interested in wasting my time, but I am interested in shedding light. (I've glanced at some of Palmer's book. He strains at gnats, and clearly has no understanding of the nuclear detonation process or how to read the high-speed photographs. He criticizes one photo of the developing Trinity detonation for not seeming to be luminous---not realizing that the image was taken so fast, the image was not strong enough to burn the film. He dwells on the mystery of mustard gas, and seems to omit the likely presence of nitric oxides produced by the detonation, a result of high-temperature high-pressure conditions in air. Inhale them and they burn the lungs.)

We aren't the only ones who have nuclear weapons, you know. There is evidence enough of this, through the other test programs (UK, France, Russia, India, Pakistan).

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shadowsheikh 0 points ago +3 / -3

It doesn't matter if nukes exist or not. Devastating bombs definitely exist so enough with this forum sliding nonsense.

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Morpheus11 3 points ago +4 / -1

There's a world of difference. If you can't understand that, you should head on back to Twitter where things are easy to understand and their fear and judgment threads never get slid so you're able to keep up.

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shadowsheikh -1 points ago +1 / -2

What I understand is that you're a forum sliding shill who doesn't believe in nuclear reactors and bombs. Which is hilarious.

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Lance-White 2 points ago +2 / -0

Come on now. Considering we have been lied to just about everything and I mean everything, we need to keep an open mind don't you think?

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Wexit-Delecto 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do you believe in germ theory?

Probably most of our science is a lie.

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BigRichardEnergy 6 points ago +6 / -0

Nuclear power is just a really expensive steam engine.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

That doesn't run out of fuel for decades on end.

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DeathRayDesigner 2 points ago +2 / -0

It doesn't make land unlivable. Check out the present-day Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You have swallowed too much anti-nuke Kool-Aid.

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Mountaing8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Geiger counters aren't actually too expensive.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

True. You can get surplus civil defense Geiger counters for prices from $80 to $20. https://colemans.com/product-category/militaria/geiger-counters/

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IceK1ng 5 points ago +6 / -1

How over the top would that be just to take trump down: “did you trumpers see what he just did, he gave the codes to sumbody and now they nukin us!!!!”

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GoingCamaro [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah... that's one of the reasons I made this post so that if they go that far, we'll have already seen it coming...

It seems every time we tell ourselves "they'll never do that" they... uh... do exactly that. And yes it would be over the top. I hope it would be over the top enough that people will see right through it.

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VetforTrump 4 points ago +4 / -0

3 month we've said imminent. Imminency has passed already since you posted.

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GoingCamaro [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

And since I replied to your comment...

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Ass-a-Tony 4 points ago +5 / -1

US Military = savior of mankind. We will never forget. Fantasy land. God save us all. Q

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Pensador999 3 points ago +3 / -0

remember : the codes change all the time, if he had them they would become useless a day after he "left" office.

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Strelnieks 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nuclear Winter! It's the new thing!

NPC pacman gobble gobble wakka waka

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Binome169 3 points ago +3 / -0

The most likely catalyst to a tactical nuclear event and response is what is happening in Zaporizhzya ….. Biden administration has control of HIMARS targets prior to firing and they must approve all targets using that system….. they are approving the strikes on the plant there by Ukraine…. Even the UN had to admit that whilst the security counsel were in session yesterday….!

WWG1WGA

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kish-kumen 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nuclear false flag imminent? Probably always has been.. At least since bay of pigs.

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PeaceAndLovePatriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Buckle up for an interesting HOT August / Sept (8 & 9)..

Looking forward to the Q34 commands going live!

https://qposts.online/post/3550

https://qposts.online/post/1173

https://qposts.online/post/500

https://qposts.online/post/34

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Nomnomnom 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nuclear is comms for dirt on state actors or something of the like. Nuclear codes are used to set off nukes aka trump was holding dirt on state actors which he hadn’t released yet

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cryofreeze 3 points ago +3 / -0

Preparedness PSA and banner-signs in malls:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/OuEi5bGcctg/

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Mountaing8 3 points ago +3 / -0

Today someone told me 2nd hand from the military it was going to be an EMP in October, just to add to the pile.

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Hilltopperpete 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think nuclear means blackmail. Everything we have ever been told about "contagious diseases" is a giant lie. Nearly every facet of medicine taught in schools is a giant lie. Evolution is fake and dinosaurs are a giant hoax. Our adversary is the Father of Lies- when he lies, he speaks his native tongue.

The bombs dropped on Japan were called Fat Man and Little Boy. Given all we know about the Cabal using pedophilia and blackmail for control, how surprising would it be if these were simply literal. Is there a better "hiding in plain sight" naming of a blackmail tactic than Fat Man and Little boy? Is there a better deterrent for the citizens of the world to bow down in the face of tyranny than using "nuclear weapons"- some grand threat hanging over the world where if you don't pay your taxes and support military buildup and be a good little citizen and let our Oligarchy handle the "tenuous political relationships", that the controllers of the world might just have a petty argument and kill billions of people with a press of a button?

This just sounds like exactly the same playbook we see today with everything else. We have been tricked into giving up our autonomy and ownership of this world in exchange for nothing.

There were zero fallout/radiation issues after Hiroshima/Nagasaki and their population isn't all full of cancer from radiation sickness- they should have been. Obviously the US bombed the crap out of Japan, but with two giant nuclear weapons? I don't believe at face value anything we are told about anything anymore.

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DeathRayDesigner -1 points ago +1 / -2

"Fat Man" and "Little Boy" were code names selected to mimic the physical appearance of the bombs. "Fat Man" was a spheroid surrounding a spherical implosion bomb. "Little Boy" was a much smaller, cylindrical gun-assembly bomb. Cabal naming conventions are more bizarre to entertain than Martians writing their names on the bombs.

There were zero radiation/ fallout problems from the bomb bursts because the fallout drifted away and was dilute enough not to be a problem. This is typical for a tactical nuclear weapon...but not the story that was propagandized to inspire fear in the public over nuclear weapons and technology. Likewise, the Japanese survivors did not demonstrate an undue incidence of cancers. There was no "should have been," since this was the first and only experience of the situation. There is still controversy over the "zero tolerance, linear dosage" assumption that predicts cancers and deaths. The data seems to indicate that "hormesis" applies to radiation exposure as to all toxins: there is an exposure level that is actually optimal for human health, either higher or LOWER exposure is less healthy. This means that some low dosage of radiation is actually healthy for human beings. Not too surprising, since we live in a low radiation natural environment.

It took the Japanese two bombs to come to their senses and realize they had no future prospect of winning the war, and that surrender was the wiser choice. Two bombs. They couldn't come to that realization with one bomb, which is a measure of the sway held by the military in their counsels.

I am sorry, but it seems the reason you don't believe things is that you don't know things.

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Paul_Revere 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can believe the Illuminati pulling off a simulated atomic attack, with non-nuclear explosions. But the real thing seems unlikely.

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Dogelog 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nukes aren't real

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Shazxofshadilay 3 points ago +3 / -0

I stick by the principle that if they had them, they would have used them by now.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same. They have holes to crawl Into to survive.

Plus here nuke could be indo discloses that blows up someone on the left. Boom

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

And you would know, how? Your principle is complete nonsense. You should be happy that no one has used them since World War II---it indicates that reason still prevails over insanity.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

You claim they haven't been used since ww2 is false. TNW's have been used. Low yield in places we don't talk about.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

Like where? And what is the evidence? How would you know?

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are. I spent half my career designing systems to defend the U.S. from them. Please stop being a dope.

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Dogelog 1 point ago +1 / -0

So you've actual seen one being used to back this up?

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, I designed weapons to intercept them. My brain grandchild is the current warhead on the Standard 3 missile. We don't go through millions of dollars of technical trouble to defend against cartoons.

You want to be such a skeptic...what's your debunk? Did you have a CNWDI clearance? I did. Did you work at a nuclear war target? I did.

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Dogelog 1 point ago +1 / -0

All that clearance yet you or anyone else still never actually seen it in use. So how can you be so confident its real. It's about as real as Obama killing Osama.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

See my other comment about the friend who had to dig out the instrument packages from the collapsed tunnels left over from nuclear tests. Care to see my pieces of trinitite? Care to see the relics that my dad brought back from Nagasaki? There's evidence, my friend. How old are you, anyway? You sound like someone who wasn't alive when this was all happening.

Or, you could see for yourself...and be dead. That is the down side of having first hand experience of nuclear weapons at close range. I guess you don't believe in dental X-rays, either. Or vitamins. Or cell phones. Or television. Haven't you seen how that technology works to make things happen? Oh, there are no moving parts? You can't tell whether it's working or not? I think I can safely guess that you have no education in science.

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Dogelog 1 point ago +1 / -0

Preists who preform exorcisms think that their job is just as real as yours. But just like theirs the only proof is a trust me bro.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

And all you are doing is showing that you understand exorcism as little as you understand engineering. I have a friend who is a pastor and he has had such experiences, and it's nothing to snicker about. As for me, I also had a friend who worked for the Defense Nuclear Agency digging instrument packages out of the tunnels collapsed from underground nuclear tests. The proof is that he became terminally ill from conditions he believed resulted from being soaked in tritiated water in those tunnels. Or, he just made it up. You like to wave all evidence away with the magic wand of "I don't believe you," and suck up the stupid Kool-Aid denying the reality.

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sackofwisdom 2 points ago +2 / -0

In Starship Troopers the world has a big chunk of the earth blown up by a bug world meteorite. But the obvious subtext due to the satire in the movie is that Humans nuked themselves in a false flag to go attack the bugs.

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TheBman 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Russians are being blamed for bombing a nuke plant in the ukraine that is located on the Azov Sea. If this plant is destroyed, it would contaminate the Azov Sea along with the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea. Not good for that area as ukrainian / Russian grains are shipped thru this area.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Russians are being blamed---but the Ukrainians are the ones who are doing the bombardment. They know better, but they are willing to do the unthinkable because they cannot tolerate defeat and being brought to justice.

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ImBillCurtis 2 points ago +2 / -0

Notice how the smallpox/monkey pox narrative took over a year and a half to get going from the first “reported” case?

I think we may see a slow psychological buildup of nuke shit. Maybe we’ll see more “get your iodine and thyroid checked” on commercials.

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Juice 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let's fucking hope not

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SteveRogers42 2 points ago +2 / -0

What was Dick Cheney up to? Take a trip down the rabbit hole involving the 2007 Bent Spear nuclear incident. ( A B-52 with live nukes flying from Minot to Barksbale in violation of every SOP in the book.

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DeathRayDesigner 1 point ago +1 / -0

There has been no allegation that Trump has "nuclear information." Any such information could cover a broad variety of topics. He does not have custodial access to the nuclear authorization codes; they are in custody of the military at all times, by a designated custodian who keeps them at hand. Trump has access to them, but he does not HAVE them. The fiasco is still in progress, so don't get too excited.

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GoingCamaro [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol. Check the MSM.

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Maxx_van_Date 1 point ago +1 / -0

“Nuclear” may not necessarily imply physical atomic weaponry, but may in fact refer to devastating material evidence of a crime(s).

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Oasis5150 1 point ago +3 / -2

Evidence of a nuclear bomb is impossible. Period.

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DeathRayDesigner 0 points ago +1 / -1

Except for the fact that they were exploded at the end of World War II. My father saw the ruins of Nagasaki. I have pieces of trinitite. You don't know what that is? Look it up. It's evidence. Along with all the test footage.

I don't know why you want to deny such a thoroughgoing fact. Is it that you know nothing, and want to insist that everyone else knows less than nothing? I'm not inclined to politeness in your case, since I have spent decades working to defend this country against nuclear attack.