It's the main reason why so many people with sub-90 IQ are sociopathic or psychopathic
This conclusion is snuck in nonchalantly. Whether it intended to or not, it normalizes school shooters. It normalizes Dylan Roofs, Lee Harvey Oswalds, Columbine. Instead of contemplating the planned creation of these monsters, it would lead us to believe this is simply 'their nature'.
I would go so far to say as it normalizes drug addiction and violence. The final conclusion should be, that Clowns are more effective at manipulating lower IQ individuals/groups than higher IQ.
To conflate that with low IQ = more violent by nature, allows Clowns to get away with it. It keeps us from questioning environmental factors. Notably, the role the Media plays.
"It’s hard to convey the power of it as it’s mostly invisible power. A star commands headlines in all sorts of ways and they can amplify or diminish any desired message.
I’ve known many people who idolize celebrities, I can’t think of anyone that doesn’t IRL. If they suggest a course of action it’s something they take as seriously as if a close friend suggested it. The power of Celebrity plays on the point of “Friends” as celebrities make them laugh and cry and hate and through the media we are constantly surrounded with people see them more than they do an actual friend so of course the relationship is there. This is why people trust them and it allows their face to be used to push society in directions.
Even people who don’t like celebrities as a rule still have a few they consider exceptions.
This extends to so many other parts of society.
Especially racial/gender warfare as people become indoctrinated into these paths due to seeing oppression they never see IRL. They see it all around them as if it were real because it is presented as true representations of the world. I’d love to work at diffusing that terrible connection."
Uncomfortable? I find the prospect that not everyone possesses an inner voice uncomfortable. I also find it uncomfortable that people wipe their ass standing up, too.
But I will not be a sheep deriving satisfaction in subdividing fellow sheep. Yes, you, me, we are sheep to them. If you were not born learning Comms, you are sheep. You have wasted your most formative educational years learning a fake reality of how the world works, and its history.
I would argue that the majority are not functioning as true human beings in this Clown World illusion. This is by design. If you believe I am overexaggerating, then you underestimate the enemy we're up against.
While I agree, keep in mind the larger a sample size, the higher the count of stastical outliers will be (though it will reflect a more accurate percentage).
But a successful psychopath running his small but profitable business, that quiet transwoman working at Starbucks, that high functioning sociopath at the DMV, or that elementary school teacher who is heavily into BDSM with her husband? They aren't the ones making the news.
It's the screaming hormone-raging tyranny wearing a pink vagina hat. It's the school teacher sleeping with a student. It's the DMV serial killer who follows a cute gal home after she renews her drivers license. It's the CEOs who take a golden parachute while the workers get screwed out of pensions.
Everyone has their 'good jew' (speaking metaphorically) - that one outlier that doesn't fit the stereotype. And the thing is: they really AREN'T like the others.
As a freedom loving patriot, I think you have the right to be left alone unless you're hurting someone else or generally causing a problem. And lately, alot of these outliers are doing just that: causing trouble.
The ones that make the news? Clowns (CIA) and MOS. That's who fabricates the news. That's who dictates who gets a voice, and who doesn't. That's who shapes the realities of the masses.
Understand how powerful "having a voice" is. A celebrity complains about dog poop, and tens of thousands hear it. Understand how little Media voice we have. Literally the only way we could make it into the news within a week, is to break the law in an egregious way. There is no POSITIVE action we could perform that would grant us a voice.
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When you don't understand your enemy, the enemy takes on mythical qualities. Understand MOSSAD. Take the boogeyman out of the equation.
I don't disagree with you. If my post came off that way, I do apologize, kek. I was typing it on my phone while on a quick break at the "day job", and i was in a hurry, because damn if it isn't cold outside...
The test is to take it to one more level of framing:
Here’s the story of Tim and Steve. Tim said, “Tell me a story about Joe and Kamala.”
Steve said, “Braindead Joe and Kameltoe went for a walk…” (proceeds with the story you wrote, which becomes a story within a story, which is a tough concept for low IQs)
Ben : Writing a story about Charlie and Dave,; Dave is writing a story about Ernie and Frank. Frank is writing a story about George and Harold. Harold is writing a story about elephants, here's what I have so far:
Charlie : What are you doing?
Dave : Writing a story about Ernie and Frank. Frank is writing a story about George and Harold. Harold is writing a story about Elephants, here's what I have so far:
Ernie : What are you doing?
Frank : Writing a story about George and Harold. Harold is writing a story about Elephants, here's what I have so far:
George : What are you doing?
Harold : Writing a story about Elephants. Here's what I have so far:
Thank you, this is illuminating, and just a little scary, as we seem to be surrounded by sub-90 IQ folks. They breed a lot, they vote sometimes, they eat and take up space. I'm not a eugenicist by any means, and believe all humans are guests of God on this earth, and I should treat the as such. But then again, I go to great lengths to avoid them when I can.
I have a brother-in-law who is low IQ. He is Hispanic, which is relevant in that the term "what happened?" is a common question in general conversation Spanish translation, "que pasa" An example of a conversation with him is as follows:
"Hey man. I heard you got a job."
"Uh? Job? Oh. Uh? I got a job?"
" That's what I heard, yes."
"Wha happen? Job? I got a job? Oh. Oh yeah. I got a job, uh huh."
** end of conversation **
Now it makes so much more sense. You can almost hear the gears grinding as his mind tries to process what is happening. He has had my wife handle basic paperwork that is too complex for him to process -- like job applications, which was always maddening to me.
Incidentally, the resultant jobs have included bed pan specialist, and currently "security guard." (shudder) I can't imagine my BIL standing up to ANY form of resistance or threat . . . So beware - 'they' are everywhere!
Currently working security, and the people, if you can call them that, that they send to fill in a slot... hooooooooly shit, there are some stupid people out there. Just today, one of our guys is on vacation. I showed the guy where the bathroom is, and he still got lost a little later. I showed him where the locker room is, and he still got lost a little later.
You're right about the literal translation, but having spent 2 years in Panama, I know it also has a sense of "what's going on?" Or whats happening? It can be used in both contexts.
Agreed. I often hear it being misused, where "excuse me?", " I beg your pardon" or ""I didn't hear you - would you please repeat what you just said."
It just seems to demonstrate mental laziness, more often than not.
Of course, every cultural group has their own such terms. I suspect that it's the low-IQ folks who use them the most, either due to said laziness or just an inability to formulate complete sentences.
Maybe we need to take some pages out of their playbook and stop concerning ourselves with variables we can't control and just live a little in the moment.
I mean the only sensible prep for the future is survival gear. The rest is banked on the status quo maintaining itself, which is moronic because even the concept of the status quo is a lie. The status quo is based on consistency, which the human experience is anything but. In 24 hours the cells in your body have changed. Our entire society is built on the lies of consistency when in reality the human spirit is more fluid and diverse... The society is engineered to keep us dumb. Our "education" has been the same since post industrial 1800s. It trains us to function on their evil system. Yet the true breakouts of society are always the ones who go AGAINST the system. You think Elon owns Twatter cause he played by the rules?
My point is, this low IQ population is a symptom of our bullshit system. Yes, they still need to be held responsible for their actions, however the answer is not to other ourselves from them, but to figure out a way forward, to ensure their children will grow up smarter. That should be one of our GAW goals.
I think you're about 97% right about that, but it's also possible that we as a species seek homeostasis (consistency) to enable us to not go mad. Certainly I have prepped quite a bit for shtf scenarios, but I also hope I never have to use them.
I don't buy that there are so many sub-90s around that were born that way.
People have been "trained" just like animals are trained to think a certain way.
It takes much effort to break through that training. Most do not see the need to put in the effort.
Hence the timing of The Great Awakening.
The timing is WAY too slow for me and I assume many here. For others the timing may be too fast.
I suspect that the timing is just about right for the vast majority. That is why this is the only way.
You are definitively wrong. Ive got 19 first graders and I can certainly sort them by IQ and nothing else if I had to. I can tell you where each one of them will be on their High school GPA, assuming their effort is all the same.
.iQ is very real and there from birth and cant be grown or decreased or taught or culturalized.
"IQ is very real and there from birth and cant be grown or decreased or taught or culturalized."
I find it useful to think of IQ as a rubberband. It's plastic enough to be stretched or compressed up or down within a fairly narrow spectrum, but it will break when stretched beyond its capacity.
Diet, such as one rich in iodine, for instance, is known to add up to a full standard deviation to an individual's IQ. Folate when ingested by a pregnant mother is also proven to be beneficial to the unborn child's IQ, as is a diet high in Omega 3 acids from fish.
Intellectual stimulation in early childhood can also increase a child's IQ, which is probably why public schools are so horrible today.
My point being that yes, IQ is absolutely genetic but the expression can be stifled or enhanced by outside factors, which is why we need to do everything we can as a society to help the lower end of the bell curve so we don't descend into complete idiocracy (almost there now).
Children have a million questions about the world every day (they're new around here) but if all they're met with is exhausted parents coming home after a long work day, they will never be stimulated sufficiently to develop their full intellectual potential early on, which shows up in an IQ test.
Very true. I always scored among the top 5 or so (among 300-400 classmates in my grade level) on Iowa Test of Basic Skills, typically at least 5 or 6 grade levels above my grade at the time. I had classmates who could barely read a sentence -- as in - they - read - one - word at - a - time, and they typically paused at multiple-syllable words to "sound them out." That was very frustrating for me, as in my mind we had been exposed to the same learning opportunities, but they apparently chose not to take advantage of them. Of course, for those of low IQ there WAS no choice. But for many of average intelligence, they DID have the mental capacity to learn more but chose ignorance instead. One example is the fact that ebonics still run rampant in public schools. We all looked at the same chalkboard, and while a fair percentage of my black classmates learned how to read, write and speak English right along with me and other white, yellow and brown students, many others came out of those halls reading ( I guess), writing (maybe) and thinking in ebonics. I couldn't imagine being a teacher these days - the hopelessly unintelligent, the wilfully ignorant, the kids with no support or guidance at home and the obstinate, disrespectful, verbally abusive and often violent youth of today would seem to render educating those of moderate to high intelligence extremely difficult.
Hats off to you and the true, sane, non-indoctrinating (actual) teachers! For what it's worth, two of my teachers were mentors to me. One was a woman, my 6th grade teacher, and one was a man, my high school world history teacher. I stayed in touch with the former into my 20's and the latter until my late 50's - and it was his death that ended our lifelong friendship. There were a couple of teachers that I disliked, but for the most part I liked and respected them!
Before the 60s black families were treated pretty bad.
One thing that many misunderstand about black families back then.
Those families were strong. They had to be.
They stayed strong until the Democrats started to "help" them
Agreed. My best friend in 4th-6th grade was black, in a family with 6 kids. Their dad was with the family, with a railroad job while their mom was the homemaker. We used to spend the night at each others' homes, and when I went to his place (in "the projects", on the east side of town across the tracks in Southeastern Washington) we'd often go to the drive-in, in their station wagon. They were making it work.
A year or two after 6th grade, we were still friends but had started hanging out more with others. His dad was killed - I never heard why - and maybe a year later his younger brother was killed.
We reconnected several times before and just after I got married at age 20. He later brought his family (wife, stepdaughter and son) to San Diego where my wife and I had moved, built a family and founded our business. He was a career Navy guy, but was struggling with alcoholism. Over a few months there, he confided that the Navy was giving him experimental treatments for alcoholism. At one point, he confided that he was "afraid of what they were gonna do to him." Within two weeks, he was dead. The story was that he had fallen down the stairs . . . His wife found him, so I guess that was at least part of the truth. Very sad.
I don't know how this relates to "the system", but they started strong - that was my point.
So each letter of the alphabet is associated with a specific sound. A few specials ones have two different sounds, but only 7 of them so it isnt too many.
When we see letters together without spaces, string the sounds of the letters together and stop to complete a word when their is a space.
I was taught "whole word" because of my speech impediment. I think it only made things worst for me. My daughter has the same issue so we sent her to a private school for 4 years that taught phonics. You wouldn't know she ever had a language issue unless she told you of her daily struggles with it.
I didn't know I wasn't able to read because I didn't know I needed glasses. I developed are really good memory so I seem smarter than I actually am. Don't know if that was the actual cause, or I just have it in my genes (Mom has a really good memory).
The trend among millennials of replacing the schwa ("uh" sound in words) with "ah", and especially the addition of a phantom "uh" at the end of words drives me nuts. The media seems to be at the core of this. Try watching pretty much any news channel:
"In uh-news today, the ahducahtion uh-system being is uh-thrahtened by uh-white uh-nahtionalists."
The ability to not empathize with others in low IQ individuals makes sense when you see these people robbing others who were just hit by a car and are in need of help. I've already seen two videos of instances like that and one of the victims was already dead, smushed by semi truck, and their body was robbed with a crowd of people egging the robber on (in NYC, btw).
One clip that stuck on my mind a few years back was one of two black sisters whose younger brother had been shot dead while robbing someone. Of course the breathless media showed up, when one sister looked at the camera and asked "How he gone git his munny?"
The fact that this seemed like a logical defense to her blew my mind. If HER family had been robbed, would she have shrugged her shoulders and said " date's how dey git dey munny?"
I rather doubt it. I'd say chances are good that she would have dispatched little bro to "git dey munny back." Just sayin' - chances for hypocracy in this instance were extremely high.
Interesting. I already have an awareness of how those under a 90 IQ would perform in general. I was a Speech Language Pathologist and I used to work with handicapped children. Some were so low in IQ they were barely able to solve simple cause and effect problems (turning on a switch to get a toy to turn on). It was one of the most challenging jobs I had to provide age-related activities to kids who were teenagers who were always gonna function at a 6 months age level. I enjoyed the challenge of figuring out what would engage my clients including those on the spectrum.
I dealt with autistic children who had very high level splinter skills. One could decode words phonetically and read them aloud with the correct pronunciation but he could not really understand the meanings of the words themselves when he was only 18 months.
I actually had a kid who loved cars. He would automatically store your car make, model and year along with your license plate number and categorized everyone he met with this information. And would pull up this info when he met you. He had other savant qualities when it came to numbers and math. But he was totally lacking in social skills
My hubby has his PHD in Physics and when he was in grad school I noticed a number of very bright individuals lacking social skills in his department. One of them ended up staying at the school working there after he got his PhD in Physics because he couldn’t get a job. He didn’t know how to dress himself nor did he dress appropriately, didn’t seem to know how to shave properly or bathe when necessary and he wasn’t able to speak coherently.
As bright as my husband is even he has some skills that aren’t as high. He is not mechanically inclined at all. He has to read directions to put anything together. I am able to look at something and figure it out on my own. It was hard for him to admit it, but after almost 50 years of marriage he only last year admitted he can’t do that well and I was much better at it. He runs circles around me though in math skills and other areas .
Just so ya know there are other intelligences that people have that are not measured by standard IQ tests. Social skills and mechanical abilities are just a couple of them
I agree completely! My wife is our company bookkeeper and office manager. She is shrewd in finances and very frugal. She's also a great judge of character - she can spot bad people (or good people with bad intentions) from her first introduction to them. I tend to believe in people in general, so have been burned by such societal dregs a few times.
She's never taken an IQ test, but she is definitely intelligent in many ways : ). BTW - married 40 years and counting
I'm not sure about the relationship between low IQ and sociopathy expressed by the anon. This particular researcher seems to have worked with prisoners which is a popuation with a larger percentage of sociopaths. This could bias his general conclusions. I would like to know more.
The examples of mapping and anachronism are also hypothetical. I wonder if they tried humor, which usually involves a juxtaposition of reality and distortion, two things at once and contrast recognition. Anyway, these are all reasoning tasks which imo is the real IQ test. Most IQ tests rely on word knowledge, influenced by education, and shape manipulation, influenced by early childhood training, both of which criminals often lack. I haven't got a citation handy but I seem to recall that many of these hard core criminals have documented brain injury which would affect performance.
Well, reading and writing are coding and decoding sounds and ideas, so it is an abstraction skill because those are not concrete things, and math is abstracted relationships of quantity. For general improvement through brain development, performance music and dancing are tops as they use several areas of the brain at once and promote connections. So even if your child is tone deaf and has no rhythm, something like that should be encouraged.
Panel 1: I probably would have felt about the same as i normally do, since i don't eat breakfast.
Panel 2: There was a man named john from North st, who was driving in his car to go to the store. He used this time to dictate the story he was writing to his voice recorder. "'Dave get in here' screamed the old lady Jane, as she saw his dirty room. Dave put down the video game controller and ran to Jane, 'what's wrong?' he..". Just then a car smashed into John's car. He had run a red light and after the vehicles came to a stop, Peter Davidson from East st stepped out of his car and screamed "You idiot, you ran a red light!". He then got on his phone to call the police who promptly arrested John for distracted driving, and he received 3 years in prison.
Panel 3: laptop computers weren't around in ww II.
Panel 4: it's called empathy, empathizing with others. putting yourself in their shoes. (felt angry if being beat up) (felt sad if parent died)
Panel 5: So, i'll admit the direction of the arrow is a little confusing to me. but if the tip of the arrow is yellow, then house #1 would be green, and if the tip is green, house #1 would be yellow.
I think you describe an arrow direction as going from feather to point.
If it goes yellow to green at the same time then the yellow maps to the feather end, according to the sentence constructions anyway.
I found that bit took extra thinking, maybe it's ambiguous.
Yellow to green following the direction of the arrow means the blunt end of the arrow is yellow and blue is gradually introduced to yellow until the pointed end of the arrow identifies as green.
Technically there's not enough information to tell the colors between yellow and green, since you have to know the type of gradient (ie RGB, HCL, HSB, HSL). But the end colors definitely aren't specified ambiguously.
Color can be represented in different ways. For example, HSB means hue, saturation, brightness. If you interpolate those components, you will end up at the same endpoint, but the colors in the middle will be different.
One of the primary reasons people use different color representations for gradients is that they don't pass through gray in the middle. RGB gradients tend to have a great band in the center of them.
That's probably way too much information. I just enjoy this type of thing, because I do a lot of web development.
it's ambiguous for sure. it depends on what the speaker defines as the direction. but i'd give it more weight to direction is from feather to tip. Still the possibility exists it could be the other way too so i had to account for that.
What I see: the 3rd question: There is two guys, Jim and Dave. Dave says to Jim, "Kathy and Jane told me about what Eric did at the meeting yesterday. Kathy said he spilled the coffee, and Jane said he got coffee on his shirt. did they tell you?" Dave says "no"... that's as far as you need to go, lol.
The 5th question is extremely easy to answer; the color of the house is not defined, the color of the arrow IS. This is a question of how well you read the question itself.
IQ is nothing to be proud of anon, it's really bs. If you ask me though i think without EQ (Emotional Quotient) it's rather irrelevant. Even still both are rather irrelevant and can lead people to get into a cycle of pride.
Ultimately it's best to be a good person as God would judge. And there, anon, i'm failing like the rest of us all, so i need a savior too.
Would you mind elaborating please, I am genuinely curious? Maybe I have missed something in my life experience.
I haven't found an abundance of IQ & EQ to create lonliness.
Lots of empathy & the ability to help others realize the root cause of why they fail, while making them feel great about it in the moment, has built up a wealth of deep friendships for me over my life.
I tend to agree with u/Jonathan that EQ is more important, though I believe it is because it opens the doors that allow your IQ to flourish in.
I find if you have a high IQ & low EQ, that is when you are generally lonely.
I have the IQpills from that thread in text, will dump.
l did IQ research as a grad student, and it involved a lot of (his stuff. Did you know that most people (95%+) with less than 90 IQ can’t understand conditional hypothetical?
For example:
How would you have felt yesterday evening if you hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch?
What do you mean? I did eat breakfast and lunch.
Yes, but if you had not, how would you have felt?
Why are you saying that I didn't eat breakfast? I just told you that I did.
Imagine that you hadn't eaten it, though. How would you have felt?
l don't understand the question.
lt’s really fascinating. We did research on convicts in San Quentin. They're absolute fucking retards, at least 50% illiterate.
Anther interesting phenomenon around IQ involves recursion.
For example:
Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.
Most literate people can manage this, especially once you give them an example.
Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.
ln this story, one of the characters must be describing a story with at least two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.
lf you have less than 90 IQ, this second exercise is completely impossible.
Add a third level (“frame”) to the story, and even IQ 100's start to get mixed up with the names and who's talking.
Turns out Scheherazade was an IQ test!
Time is practically impossible to understand for sub 80's. They exist only in the present, can barely reflect on the past and can't plan for the future at all.
Sub 90's struggle with anachronism, too. For example. I remember the 80-85's stumbling on logic problems that involved common sense anachronism stuff.
For instance:
Why do you think that military strategists in WWII didn't use laptop computers to help develop their strategies?
l guess they didn't want to get hacked by Nazis?
Admittedly you could argue that this is a history knowledge question, not quite a logic sequencing question, but you get the idea.
Sequencing is super hard for them to track, but most 100+ have no problem with it, although I imagine that a movie like Memento strains them a little.
Recursion was definitely the killer, though.
Recursive thinking and recursive knowledge seems to be genuinely hard for people of even average intelligence (although at San Quentin there weren't too many of those!)
lt’s the main reason why so many people with sub-90 IQ are sociopathic or psychopathic. They don’t have the mental computing power to model other people's thoughts and feelings. I've seen It over and over with convicts.
How do you think that man felt when you beat him?
Dunno.
How do you think that boy's mother felt when she heard that her son was dead?
Dunno,
It comes across as psychopathic, but these people actually don't have the brainpower to build even a crude model of someone else's mind, let alone populate it with events that are in the past
l forgot to mention another important part of abstract reasoning, which is 'mapping'. Basically, expressing one thing in terms of another.
For example:
Imagine a picture of an arrow, colored in a gradient from yellow to green, following the direction of the arrow.
Imagine a one-way residential street, with ascending house numbers, with the lowest number being at the entrance of the Street and the highest number being at the exit.
lf you mapped the arrow onto the street, what color would house number 1 be?
This question really isn't tricky for most 100+s. It has some minor ambiguities, but anyone of normal intelligence can do the 'mapping': that is, the expression of one thing in terms of another.
However, for sub-90's, this stuff is REALLY difficult. They struggle terribly with it. Sub 80's just can't do it at all.
Anything under 90 will routinely make errors with even commonplace mapping (like subway maps, time schedules, etc.) Sub 85s start to get into the territory where they can't learn to read, as symbolic mapping of phonemes (or even morphemes) even with constant drilling, is just too tricky.
Math is another area I could get into, but the long and the short of it is that it's heavily decided by IQ. That's a bit tautological, since it's a principal IQ measurement but you know what I mean.
As for the criminal narcissists etc., I honestly don't know. However, sufficiently high IQ autists can emulate theory of mind, and do. If you're smart enough, you can build a little simulator in your brain. You also need to be smart enough to appreciate the utility of it.
l suspect that any autist or narcissist over 120 can do this stuff regularly without getting tired, but it's like playing a strenuous game of chess for them. They really don't have the 'hardware' for empathy. That's it.
I have said that basic biology explains a lot of things we debate in society, and proves the dimwit Dems wrong on some very important topics (hey, maybe they are Dems because of low IQ ... hmm).
Males and females (only 2 sexes, and gender is a made-up, meaningless construct) have very similar overall IQ test results, with males tending to be stronger in math and females tending to be stronger in verbal.
HOWEVER ...
The bell curve is very different for each. Males tend to have a "fat tails" bell curve, meaning there are more at both extremes, while females tend to be bunched up closer to average, with far fewer at both extremes.
There are about 10 times more males in the genius category of IQ than females. Likewise, there are many more true dumb fucks that are male than female (both ends of the bell curve).
In addition, males have 10 times more testosterone than females, which is the hormone that drives aggressive behavior, whether good or bad.
The result is:
Way more males are CEO's and business entrepreneurs than females, due to drive (aggressiveness in climbing the corporate ladder, working later hours, willing to switch jobs and companies, etc.), AND more males who are intelligent enough to do the job successfully.
Way more males than females in prison (about 10 times more), due to more males being aggressive in a violent or otherwise criminal way, AND more males being true dumb fucks who do stupid and harmful things.
It would be quite fascinating to see the other side of this coin, what people with 130+, 140+ and 150+ IQs can routinely manage. Not just being able to cognitively process things faster with better memory, but these discreet jumps with new abilities being unlocked. Presumably they gain these higher skills at the same rate that skills like empathy, forecasting and extrapolation are lost as IQs are lowered.
What can they do? Rainman type stuff where they can count how many flowers are in a field at just a glance, eidetic memories, more? Humanity needs these people!
I have Asperger's, but I've also tested at 145+ on IQ tests.
I can remember anything I want to remember. There was something my class in school was supposed to memorize, but I chose not to. The next day in class, everyone had to stand up in turn and be quizzed by the teacher. I just sat there watching everyone else struggle. By the time the teacher got to me, I had everything perfectly memorized, better than anyone else in the class.
I remember details from my life all the way back to age 2. I was learning the alphabet and how to write my name at age 3. I was in 1st grade at school at age 5. The nuns said I could skip 1, 2, or even 3 grades if I continued there the next year, but my parents moved, and I had to go to stupid public school.
I am very good at solving puzzles. I can do the average crossword in 5 or 6 minutes, in pen. I am very good at math. I could always do the hard homework problems in advanced math in high school, which irritated a couple of the people who couldn't figure them out. In geometry, I could figure out shorter proofs than the teacher was showing us.
At a job, there was software that was actually going to fail at Y2K. I was asked if I could create a substitute from scratch. I said yes. They accepted that and immediately told the software company that they could just go away. What the company didn't realize was that all the dates in the databases had been encoded in a proprietary scheme to collapse a full date into two characters. But I successfully reverse engineered it and completed my task in plenty of time. I didn't even get a raise for saving the company. I suppose it was because I don't know how to play politics.
Because of my memory, I have memorized many thousands of rules that enable me to pretend to be normal. Most people don't know I'm an Aspie, unless I tell them.
I am very good at seeing patterns in things and thinking outside the box. I might could get work at any number of high level jobs today if I weren't old and liking my life outside corporate so much.
Another thing I do is talk too much without realizing it. :)
I've heard as autism being an evolutionary adoption to societal complexities - as tools, processes etc get more complex out of necessity, they cant outstrip the ability of people to comprehend and use them effectively. Its probably not a recent thing since evolution doesn't work within a generation or two, but a latent human property that has always been around and has helped with the big tech leaps at the historical points where these have occurred. Agriculture, systems of laws, water-wheels, construction techniques.
Some of say that it's actually the next step in human evolution. We are good at following rules, we like to help people, we almost never lie, we have interests we are super involved with, etc. Because of rules, we can't play politics at work. Also because of rules, we can memorize thousands of them so that we can appear normal most of the time. We've had to learn those rules the hard way, by making thousands of mistakes. Most of us do not act like Sheldon. I knew I was different by the time I was 7. Oddly enough, Einstein's IQ is only 10 or so points higher than mine, but no one outside my field has heard of me.
Not eidetic memory, but similar. I’m in the 155 to 160 range, supposedly. It gives lots of advantages, but also brings issues with every day life and relating to other people.
Also, in order to be in the top of just about any field, you have to become unethical. I raced the corporate ladder super early in life. Then, realized that was not what was important to me. I’ve successfully owned my own business for quite some time, where I can excel at my chosen profession, without compromising my integrity.
Very cool. Ultimately the choice between having elevated career success and positions + being miserable or compromised, and withdrawing to do whatever makes you happy is no choice at all.
I don't think IQ gives photographic memory. High IQ seems to me like it gives a lot more bandwidth for complex logic and analysis. And they can do it faster
Ah, is a higher IQ individual, whom was raised with a proper education from birth, more likely to replicate that for their progeny building up stronger genetic memory?
OR
Do smart kids repeat what their parents did, so their kids become ven more smart?
Fascinating given my mom had a tested IQ of 72 (back before she had brain cancer and tow surgeries and chemo and radiation and even worse epilepsy). And yet she's in her 50s and my brother just taught her fractions, which she has always struggled with. She's also a great writer and storyteller, and she loves the Titanic, JFK, UFOs, and other things.
He's right though; if you asked a sub 90 IQ where do you find groups of birds most commonly at, they would say "outside". Not "in trees" when nesting, or "in ponds" like ducks and geese, or not even "flying north or south" when migrating
What if one were to approach this differently depending on who's asking the question? (Or other factors, such as laziness?)
For example:
If someone who typically annoys me or isn't well known to me asks the question, I would typically go with the quick drive-by answer "outside" and move on with my life. Probably also do the same if I'm lazy and don't want to answer the question with depth.
But, if a friend or an acquaintance that I have personally determined to contain the skills to disseminate information asks, I typically take the time to inquire further and address the reasoning behind the question.
Exactly what I have been saying all along, except I use dimension to describe thought processes.
There are the 1 dimensional thinkers...they live in the now. Hungry=Eat, Sad=Frustration, Anger=Violence. The ability to correlate and reference past, present and future, is too much. You see most of these people in the news, playing the "Kia challenge", "knock out games" or pushing people of subway platforms.
Multi-dimensional thinking allows the person to pull in reference from many sources to form a complex analysis of their feelings and actions. Seeing things from another perspective, empathy, and reasoning, mediate reactions. Right and Wrong. Strategy and stealth. Action and Reaction. Check and Balance.
Can someone here explain what they mean by “”I already reformatted it for normie consumption…not translating it back to autist”
I understand what “autist” and “normie” mean in the context, but what does it mean by translating. What’s an example of “”autist” format being translated to “normie” or vice versa?
IQ is a measure of one's ability to integrate effectively and comfortably into civilization. Low IQ people would likely excel in a purely "natural world". All the bells and whistles of civilization require some degree of higher brain function, but nature doesn't.
I think it's more likely low IQ people are a symptom of civilization. Whereas these people would have just died from being morons before, now they're able to survive and somewhat succeed (or stumble through life) due to society's ability to keep them alive and accommodate them to a certain degree.
LOL As a (retired) teacher of 42 years, I can agree with what this guy has written. I've HAD children like these in my classes over the years. Sadly, the educational system is weak when providing real help for many of these children. Over the many years in education, I can honestly say, yes, our educational system is dumbing down our children.
I interview subject matter experts for knowledge capture and sometimes when I need to illustrate the question, I give a hypothetical example to guide their answer.
More times than I can remember, these fucking retards take my hypothetical literally and think that is the question. I'm like, no, that's an example answer, do you have the actual answer for me? <cannot compute silence>
Just using convicts isn't near a big enough sample size though. Should go to public and private schools, community colleges, tech schools, ivy league (get the retarded faggots as well as the actual intelligent students), white collar people that make a fuck ton of money, blue collar people that are in a shitty union working a not shitty job, etc. There are far too many variables and the sample size just wasn't big enough.
I have found that making individuals physically create these things in life helps the imagination/visualization for their own future reference. Once the connection is made, it is much easier to practice the skill.
ie Draw it out on paper yourself, and then you can comprehend it in your own mind.
edit- Consider it a skill that you could improve. Like hunting, drawing, meme farming, humor, cooking, etc...
I think this is an interesting article but the author's conclusion is flawed. The sample he's studying is biased because the prison may be filled with low IQ individuals but maybe it's filled with low IQ individuals who are bent towards criminal behavior. He'd have to sample non-imprisoned low IQ people. The lack of empathy is not a result of low IQ.
I've met dumb people who could still display basic empathy. I would guess that the low IQ of criminals is a result of upbringing i.e. a lack of empathy experienced during their childhood years. There are intelligent criminals. The world is run by intelligent sociopaths, so are most corporations.
Most of these criminals were most likely raised by single mothers. They were probably abused by those single mothers or their string of sketchy boyfriends or family members.
Their low IQ is probably a mixed factor of genetic potential, with serious developmental issues from childhood abuse, long term substance abuse and childhood neglect.
I've met plenty of law abiding people who fit some of these descriptions. Maybe low IQ people are predisposed to crime and a lack of empathy but I think this article's conclusion is missing other relevant and significant factors.
Exactly what I have been saying all along, except I use dimension to describe thought processes.
There are the 1 dimensional thinkers...they live in the now. Hungry=Eat, Sad=Frustration, Anger=Violence. The ability to correlate and reference past, present and future, is too much. You see most of these people in the news, playing the "Kia challenge", "knock out games" or pushing people of subway platforms.
Multi-dimensional thinking allows the person to pull in reference from many sources to form a complex analysis of their feelings and actions. Seeing things from another perspective, empathy, and reasoning, mediate reactions. Right and Wrong. Strategy and stealth. Action and Reaction. Check and Balance.
I had a tough time in high school (different story) and ended up not graduating (though still ended up going to college and being successful in life). Before I could get accepted to college, I had to get my GED (high college placement scores helped as well). I think I was 17 at the time. When I went to take the GED exam that determines what classes you need to take, I couldn’t believe the questions on the exam. For example, one of the questions was a picture of four or five coins and you had to determine the value. The questions were all simple like that, I couldn’t believe it. I was in a room with a bunch of other people taking the test, all of them older than me. I finished quickly and sat quietly while the rest finished. I was confused why it was taking of them so long. I went back in the next day to get my class schedule and they said “you don’t need to take any classes because you got every question correct, so just take the final exam and you can get your certificate”. The final exam was easy and I was done in an hour. I wouldn’t have believed what OP posted here if I hadn’t experienced that myself. The last couple years has only solidified that belief further.
Spez: For the record, my comments weren’t meant to disparage anyone. I have loved ones who probably fit into the low IQ category and they are amazing people and I don’t care that they’re not as intelligent as me. It would help when trying to explain some of this stuff, but in the end it doesn’t matter.
This is a pretty good thread. He might’ve benefited from making a distinction between cognitive empathy and affective empathy. In short, cognitive empathy is being able to think about what other people are thinking, and affective empathy is being able to feel what other people are feeling. Different parts of the brain are responsible for thoughts vs feelings. A high IQ psychopath has a malformed part of the brain that is responsible for regulating feelings, but the parts that generate thoughts are functional. That’s how he’s able to use the theory of mind to figure out what other people are thinking, ie cognitive empathy. He’s not able to figure out other peoples’ feelings though. A low IQ person might be categorized as a psychopath because he’s clueless of other peoples’ feelings, but if he is so lacking in intellect that he can’t figure out other peoples’ perspectives and therefore their probable thoughts, he has no chance of figuring out how other people feel about their thoughts. So really, he’s not even up to the level of a psychopath. Would you call a rattlesnake a psychopath because it has no idea what other creatures are feeling?
I would like to see an Emotional Quotient paired with that test.
There are many "really smart" individuals I have worked with that struggle with (can't grasp) social cues.
I think of this like the difference between those who can read the music, understanding the mathematical composition, & those who can feel the music in them, enjoying the vibration it brings to the soul.
If a gallon of gas cost $1.95 on January 21, 2020, and the same gallon of gas cost $5.20 on January 21, 2022, then how many times should we chant, "Fuck Joe Biden" at the next football game?
Fascinating!!! Truly fascinating!
Disingenuous. Truly Disingenuous.
This conclusion is snuck in nonchalantly. Whether it intended to or not, it normalizes school shooters. It normalizes Dylan Roofs, Lee Harvey Oswalds, Columbine. Instead of contemplating the planned creation of these monsters, it would lead us to believe this is simply 'their nature'.
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I would go so far to say as it normalizes drug addiction and violence. The final conclusion should be, that Clowns are more effective at manipulating lower IQ individuals/groups than higher IQ.
To conflate that with low IQ = more violent by nature, allows Clowns to get away with it. It keeps us from questioning environmental factors. Notably, the role the Media plays.
"It’s hard to convey the power of it as it’s mostly invisible power. A star commands headlines in all sorts of ways and they can amplify or diminish any desired message.
I’ve known many people who idolize celebrities, I can’t think of anyone that doesn’t IRL. If they suggest a course of action it’s something they take as seriously as if a close friend suggested it. The power of Celebrity plays on the point of “Friends” as celebrities make them laugh and cry and hate and through the media we are constantly surrounded with people see them more than they do an actual friend so of course the relationship is there. This is why people trust them and it allows their face to be used to push society in directions.
Even people who don’t like celebrities as a rule still have a few they consider exceptions.
This extends to so many other parts of society.
Especially racial/gender warfare as people become indoctrinated into these paths due to seeing oppression they never see IRL. They see it all around them as if it were real because it is presented as true representations of the world. I’d love to work at diffusing that terrible connection."
You have a point. They are very tricky about normalizing these types of things in order to hide their own manipulation. I agree with this statement
Uncomfortable? I find the prospect that not everyone possesses an inner voice uncomfortable. I also find it uncomfortable that people wipe their ass standing up, too.
But I will not be a sheep deriving satisfaction in subdividing fellow sheep. Yes, you, me, we are sheep to them. If you were not born learning Comms, you are sheep. You have wasted your most formative educational years learning a fake reality of how the world works, and its history.
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I would argue that the majority are not functioning as true human beings in this Clown World illusion. This is by design. If you believe I am overexaggerating, then you underestimate the enemy we're up against.
Good points, fren
While I agree, keep in mind the larger a sample size, the higher the count of stastical outliers will be (though it will reflect a more accurate percentage).
But a successful psychopath running his small but profitable business, that quiet transwoman working at Starbucks, that high functioning sociopath at the DMV, or that elementary school teacher who is heavily into BDSM with her husband? They aren't the ones making the news.
It's the screaming hormone-raging tyranny wearing a pink vagina hat. It's the school teacher sleeping with a student. It's the DMV serial killer who follows a cute gal home after she renews her drivers license. It's the CEOs who take a golden parachute while the workers get screwed out of pensions.
Everyone has their 'good jew' (speaking metaphorically) - that one outlier that doesn't fit the stereotype. And the thing is: they really AREN'T like the others.
As a freedom loving patriot, I think you have the right to be left alone unless you're hurting someone else or generally causing a problem. And lately, alot of these outliers are doing just that: causing trouble.
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The ones that make the news? Clowns (CIA) and MOS. That's who fabricates the news. That's who dictates who gets a voice, and who doesn't. That's who shapes the realities of the masses.
Understand how powerful "having a voice" is. A celebrity complains about dog poop, and tens of thousands hear it. Understand how little Media voice we have. Literally the only way we could make it into the news within a week, is to break the law in an egregious way. There is no POSITIVE action we could perform that would grant us a voice.
When you don't understand your enemy, the enemy takes on mythical qualities. Understand MOSSAD. Take the boogeyman out of the equation.
https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2022/06/30/mos-cia-compare-contrast/
I don't disagree with you. If my post came off that way, I do apologize, kek. I was typing it on my phone while on a quick break at the "day job", and i was in a hurry, because damn if it isn't cold outside...
This is a healthy conversation for GAW to have, I appreciate it.
Was that just one line of dialogue or two?🧐🤨😒😕😖😫
Braindead Joe and Kameltoe went for a walk in the White House Rose Garden one day in November. All of the roses were dead.
"Gobbledegook prezximinnerbedork," said Braindead Joe.
"Gobble?" Asked Kameltoe. " You want me to gobble??? Well - if you'll make me your vice resident, SURE. I'll do it. Cackle cackle cackle snort."
And that's the end of the story of why we are in deep shit. Now go to bed, you little bastards!
KEK. (IQ 144)
The test is to take it to one more level of framing:
Here’s the story of Tim and Steve. Tim said, “Tell me a story about Joe and Kamala.”
Steve said, “Braindead Joe and Kameltoe went for a walk…” (proceeds with the story you wrote, which becomes a story within a story, which is a tough concept for low IQs)
Hilarious!
🤯🤯🤯
Aaron : What are you doing?
Ben : Writing a story about Charlie and Dave,; Dave is writing a story about Ernie and Frank. Frank is writing a story about George and Harold. Harold is writing a story about elephants, here's what I have so far:
Charlie : What are you doing?
Dave : Writing a story about Ernie and Frank. Frank is writing a story about George and Harold. Harold is writing a story about Elephants, here's what I have so far:
Ernie : What are you doing?
Frank : Writing a story about George and Harold. Harold is writing a story about Elephants, here's what I have so far:
George : What are you doing?
Harold : Writing a story about Elephants. Here's what I have so far:
Elephant 1 : I'm an elephant.
Elephant 2 : Cool Story Bro.
It looks like a lot of people here at GAW are very intrigued by the topic of intelligence.
Thank you, this is illuminating, and just a little scary, as we seem to be surrounded by sub-90 IQ folks. They breed a lot, they vote sometimes, they eat and take up space. I'm not a eugenicist by any means, and believe all humans are guests of God on this earth, and I should treat the as such. But then again, I go to great lengths to avoid them when I can.
RIGHT?!
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
― George Carlin
Dude was a prophet. RIP
Idiocracy.
Clevon Jr Jr Jr Jr Jr Jr and so on it goes...
I have a brother-in-law who is low IQ. He is Hispanic, which is relevant in that the term "what happened?" is a common question in general conversation Spanish translation, "que pasa" An example of a conversation with him is as follows:
"Hey man. I heard you got a job."
"Uh? Job? Oh. Uh? I got a job?"
" That's what I heard, yes."
"Wha happen? Job? I got a job? Oh. Oh yeah. I got a job, uh huh." ** end of conversation **
Now it makes so much more sense. You can almost hear the gears grinding as his mind tries to process what is happening. He has had my wife handle basic paperwork that is too complex for him to process -- like job applications, which was always maddening to me.
Incidentally, the resultant jobs have included bed pan specialist, and currently "security guard." (shudder) I can't imagine my BIL standing up to ANY form of resistance or threat . . . So beware - 'they' are everywhere!
Currently working security, and the people, if you can call them that, that they send to fill in a slot... hooooooooly shit, there are some stupid people out there. Just today, one of our guys is on vacation. I showed the guy where the bathroom is, and he still got lost a little later. I showed him where the locker room is, and he still got lost a little later.
The security guard for my company at one point was a 90 pound introverted 20 year old girl who was afraid to look at anyone.
You're right about the literal translation, but having spent 2 years in Panama, I know it also has a sense of "what's going on?" Or whats happening? It can be used in both contexts.
Agreed. I often hear it being misused, where "excuse me?", " I beg your pardon" or ""I didn't hear you - would you please repeat what you just said."
It just seems to demonstrate mental laziness, more often than not.
Of course, every cultural group has their own such terms. I suspect that it's the low-IQ folks who use them the most, either due to said laziness or just an inability to formulate complete sentences.
Maybe we need to take some pages out of their playbook and stop concerning ourselves with variables we can't control and just live a little in the moment.
I mean the only sensible prep for the future is survival gear. The rest is banked on the status quo maintaining itself, which is moronic because even the concept of the status quo is a lie. The status quo is based on consistency, which the human experience is anything but. In 24 hours the cells in your body have changed. Our entire society is built on the lies of consistency when in reality the human spirit is more fluid and diverse... The society is engineered to keep us dumb. Our "education" has been the same since post industrial 1800s. It trains us to function on their evil system. Yet the true breakouts of society are always the ones who go AGAINST the system. You think Elon owns Twatter cause he played by the rules?
My point is, this low IQ population is a symptom of our bullshit system. Yes, they still need to be held responsible for their actions, however the answer is not to other ourselves from them, but to figure out a way forward, to ensure their children will grow up smarter. That should be one of our GAW goals.
I think you're about 97% right about that, but it's also possible that we as a species seek homeostasis (consistency) to enable us to not go mad. Certainly I have prepped quite a bit for shtf scenarios, but I also hope I never have to use them.
Perhaps a healthy balance is the answer. Some routine mixed with mostly spontaneity... In the end we have to find our own balance.
But yeah, 100% regulation routine or 100% spontaneous are not the answers...
I don't buy that there are so many sub-90s around that were born that way. People have been "trained" just like animals are trained to think a certain way.
It takes much effort to break through that training. Most do not see the need to put in the effort. Hence the timing of The Great Awakening. The timing is WAY too slow for me and I assume many here. For others the timing may be too fast. I suspect that the timing is just about right for the vast majority. That is why this is the only way.
You are definitively wrong. Ive got 19 first graders and I can certainly sort them by IQ and nothing else if I had to. I can tell you where each one of them will be on their High school GPA, assuming their effort is all the same. .iQ is very real and there from birth and cant be grown or decreased or taught or culturalized.
"IQ is very real and there from birth and cant be grown or decreased or taught or culturalized."
I find it useful to think of IQ as a rubberband. It's plastic enough to be stretched or compressed up or down within a fairly narrow spectrum, but it will break when stretched beyond its capacity.
Diet, such as one rich in iodine, for instance, is known to add up to a full standard deviation to an individual's IQ. Folate when ingested by a pregnant mother is also proven to be beneficial to the unborn child's IQ, as is a diet high in Omega 3 acids from fish.
Intellectual stimulation in early childhood can also increase a child's IQ, which is probably why public schools are so horrible today.
My point being that yes, IQ is absolutely genetic but the expression can be stifled or enhanced by outside factors, which is why we need to do everything we can as a society to help the lower end of the bell curve so we don't descend into complete idiocracy (almost there now).
Absolutely.
Children have a million questions about the world every day (they're new around here) but if all they're met with is exhausted parents coming home after a long work day, they will never be stimulated sufficiently to develop their full intellectual potential early on, which shows up in an IQ test.
Very true. I always scored among the top 5 or so (among 300-400 classmates in my grade level) on Iowa Test of Basic Skills, typically at least 5 or 6 grade levels above my grade at the time. I had classmates who could barely read a sentence -- as in - they - read - one - word at - a - time, and they typically paused at multiple-syllable words to "sound them out." That was very frustrating for me, as in my mind we had been exposed to the same learning opportunities, but they apparently chose not to take advantage of them. Of course, for those of low IQ there WAS no choice. But for many of average intelligence, they DID have the mental capacity to learn more but chose ignorance instead. One example is the fact that ebonics still run rampant in public schools. We all looked at the same chalkboard, and while a fair percentage of my black classmates learned how to read, write and speak English right along with me and other white, yellow and brown students, many others came out of those halls reading ( I guess), writing (maybe) and thinking in ebonics. I couldn't imagine being a teacher these days - the hopelessly unintelligent, the wilfully ignorant, the kids with no support or guidance at home and the obstinate, disrespectful, verbally abusive and often violent youth of today would seem to render educating those of moderate to high intelligence extremely difficult.
Hats off to you and the true, sane, non-indoctrinating (actual) teachers! For what it's worth, two of my teachers were mentors to me. One was a woman, my 6th grade teacher, and one was a man, my high school world history teacher. I stayed in touch with the former into my 20's and the latter until my late 50's - and it was his death that ended our lifelong friendship. There were a couple of teachers that I disliked, but for the most part I liked and respected them!
Before the 60s black families were treated pretty bad. One thing that many misunderstand about black families back then. Those families were strong. They had to be. They stayed strong until the Democrats started to "help" them
(Of course there are exceptions to the rule)
Agreed. My best friend in 4th-6th grade was black, in a family with 6 kids. Their dad was with the family, with a railroad job while their mom was the homemaker. We used to spend the night at each others' homes, and when I went to his place (in "the projects", on the east side of town across the tracks in Southeastern Washington) we'd often go to the drive-in, in their station wagon. They were making it work.
A year or two after 6th grade, we were still friends but had started hanging out more with others. His dad was killed - I never heard why - and maybe a year later his younger brother was killed.
We reconnected several times before and just after I got married at age 20. He later brought his family (wife, stepdaughter and son) to San Diego where my wife and I had moved, built a family and founded our business. He was a career Navy guy, but was struggling with alcoholism. Over a few months there, he confided that the Navy was giving him experimental treatments for alcoholism. At one point, he confided that he was "afraid of what they were gonna do to him." Within two weeks, he was dead. The story was that he had fallen down the stairs . . . His wife found him, so I guess that was at least part of the truth. Very sad.
I don't know how this relates to "the system", but they started strong - that was my point.
My wife taught special ed. So I can tell you that I understand what you are saying.
She has seen many kids change after receiving one vaccine or another. How many of these "vaccines" screw around with kids heads almost from birth?
Wouldn't exposure to lead (lead poisonings) lower IQs?
Well its been mentioned inpsych text books, and other poisons within the ground of housing areas
I reckon if you can stop people from thinking in a critical manner then you can drop their effective IQ by at least 20-30 points.
Leave your country and go to a third world country for a bit. It will change your mind on a lot of things...
Helps me see why cognitive dissonance is so uncomfortable for so many. They don't have the tools to even make the initial comparisons of two things.
I never considered that, thank you!
That's deep.
So if we want to open their eyes, we've got to make it REAL SIMPLE.
Only one level of abstraction.
Damn I wish I could read.
So each letter of the alphabet is associated with a specific sound. A few specials ones have two different sounds, but only 7 of them so it isnt too many.
When we see letters together without spaces, string the sounds of the letters together and stop to complete a word when their is a space.
Should have it down in no time!
I was taught "whole word" because of my speech impediment. I think it only made things worst for me. My daughter has the same issue so we sent her to a private school for 4 years that taught phonics. You wouldn't know she ever had a language issue unless she told you of her daily struggles with it.
Whole word reading was designed to get you to accept whole concepts without being able to break them down into their components.
In other words, it's a brainwashing tool.
I didn't know I wasn't able to read because I didn't know I needed glasses. I developed are really good memory so I seem smarter than I actually am. Don't know if that was the actual cause, or I just have it in my genes (Mom has a really good memory).
Made me smile. I remember the moment when I grasped this as a child.
The trend among millennials of replacing the schwa ("uh" sound in words) with "ah", and especially the addition of a phantom "uh" at the end of words drives me nuts. The media seems to be at the core of this. Try watching pretty much any news channel:
"In uh-news today, the ahducahtion uh-system being is uh-thrahtened by uh-white uh-nahtionalists."
Makes me want to puke!
Pronounce Menzies.
Handicapped here.
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How might you have felt if you could read it? Would using a funky-colored arrow help?
Dunno
I shoulda known!
The ability to not empathize with others in low IQ individuals makes sense when you see these people robbing others who were just hit by a car and are in need of help. I've already seen two videos of instances like that and one of the victims was already dead, smushed by semi truck, and their body was robbed with a crowd of people egging the robber on (in NYC, btw).
Wow, nobody saw that coming! KEK
That place is a fucking dump. Always wanted to live there, but no way in hell would I anymore. Imagine a red NY.
I saw that too. Incredible.
One clip that stuck on my mind a few years back was one of two black sisters whose younger brother had been shot dead while robbing someone. Of course the breathless media showed up, when one sister looked at the camera and asked "How he gone git his munny?"
The fact that this seemed like a logical defense to her blew my mind. If HER family had been robbed, would she have shrugged her shoulders and said " date's how dey git dey munny?"
I rather doubt it. I'd say chances are good that she would have dispatched little bro to "git dey munny back." Just sayin' - chances for hypocracy in this instance were extremely high.
Interesting. I already have an awareness of how those under a 90 IQ would perform in general. I was a Speech Language Pathologist and I used to work with handicapped children. Some were so low in IQ they were barely able to solve simple cause and effect problems (turning on a switch to get a toy to turn on). It was one of the most challenging jobs I had to provide age-related activities to kids who were teenagers who were always gonna function at a 6 months age level. I enjoyed the challenge of figuring out what would engage my clients including those on the spectrum.
I dealt with autistic children who had very high level splinter skills. One could decode words phonetically and read them aloud with the correct pronunciation but he could not really understand the meanings of the words themselves when he was only 18 months.
I actually had a kid who loved cars. He would automatically store your car make, model and year along with your license plate number and categorized everyone he met with this information. And would pull up this info when he met you. He had other savant qualities when it came to numbers and math. But he was totally lacking in social skills
My hubby has his PHD in Physics and when he was in grad school I noticed a number of very bright individuals lacking social skills in his department. One of them ended up staying at the school working there after he got his PhD in Physics because he couldn’t get a job. He didn’t know how to dress himself nor did he dress appropriately, didn’t seem to know how to shave properly or bathe when necessary and he wasn’t able to speak coherently.
As bright as my husband is even he has some skills that aren’t as high. He is not mechanically inclined at all. He has to read directions to put anything together. I am able to look at something and figure it out on my own. It was hard for him to admit it, but after almost 50 years of marriage he only last year admitted he can’t do that well and I was much better at it. He runs circles around me though in math skills and other areas .
Just so ya know there are other intelligences that people have that are not measured by standard IQ tests. Social skills and mechanical abilities are just a couple of them
Thanks a lot for this excellent post, LQdy., Have a hug and flowers!🤗💐
Up until half way through your post I thought I had found my sister in law on here 😂
This is so true, that are multiple types of intelligence & we should build each one the best we can as individuals.
I agree completely! My wife is our company bookkeeper and office manager. She is shrewd in finances and very frugal. She's also a great judge of character - she can spot bad people (or good people with bad intentions) from her first introduction to them. I tend to believe in people in general, so have been burned by such societal dregs a few times.
She's never taken an IQ test, but she is definitely intelligent in many ways : ). BTW - married 40 years and counting
I'm not sure about the relationship between low IQ and sociopathy expressed by the anon. This particular researcher seems to have worked with prisoners which is a popuation with a larger percentage of sociopaths. This could bias his general conclusions. I would like to know more.
The examples of mapping and anachronism are also hypothetical. I wonder if they tried humor, which usually involves a juxtaposition of reality and distortion, two things at once and contrast recognition. Anyway, these are all reasoning tasks which imo is the real IQ test. Most IQ tests rely on word knowledge, influenced by education, and shape manipulation, influenced by early childhood training, both of which criminals often lack. I haven't got a citation handy but I seem to recall that many of these hard core criminals have documented brain injury which would affect performance.
Really good points.
This is what I was thinking. Training children to be strong in math & reading at an early age seems to be key components of high intelligence.
If we also teach them compassion for others during the early years, it helps quite a bit too.
Well, reading and writing are coding and decoding sounds and ideas, so it is an abstraction skill because those are not concrete things, and math is abstracted relationships of quantity. For general improvement through brain development, performance music and dancing are tops as they use several areas of the brain at once and promote connections. So even if your child is tone deaf and has no rhythm, something like that should be encouraged.
Great point. I forgot how much that helped me when growing up.
You just explained why the left can't meme and why they are so humorless.
It's a higher order mental skill. Less intelligent people laugh at pratfalls, clown faces, things like that.
Panel 1: I probably would have felt about the same as i normally do, since i don't eat breakfast.
Panel 2: There was a man named john from North st, who was driving in his car to go to the store. He used this time to dictate the story he was writing to his voice recorder. "'Dave get in here' screamed the old lady Jane, as she saw his dirty room. Dave put down the video game controller and ran to Jane, 'what's wrong?' he..". Just then a car smashed into John's car. He had run a red light and after the vehicles came to a stop, Peter Davidson from East st stepped out of his car and screamed "You idiot, you ran a red light!". He then got on his phone to call the police who promptly arrested John for distracted driving, and he received 3 years in prison.
Panel 3: laptop computers weren't around in ww II.
Panel 4: it's called empathy, empathizing with others. putting yourself in their shoes. (felt angry if being beat up) (felt sad if parent died)
Panel 5: So, i'll admit the direction of the arrow is a little confusing to me. but if the tip of the arrow is yellow, then house #1 would be green, and if the tip is green, house #1 would be yellow.
I read it that the tip of the arrow is green.
I think you describe an arrow direction as going from feather to point. If it goes yellow to green at the same time then the yellow maps to the feather end, according to the sentence constructions anyway.
I found that bit took extra thinking, maybe it's ambiguous.
It isn't really ambiguous though, the description says 'following the direction of the arrow'.
So, yellow to green following the direction of the arrow means that it starts yellow and moves to green as it gets to the point of the arrow.
edit: direction of the arrow being the direction the arrow points.
Yellow to green following the direction of the arrow means the blunt end of the arrow is yellow and blue is gradually introduced to yellow until the pointed end of the arrow identifies as green.
I love how this community thinks like I do LoL
Kek!
Technically there's not enough information to tell the colors between yellow and green, since you have to know the type of gradient (ie RGB, HCL, HSB, HSL). But the end colors definitely aren't specified ambiguously.
I imagine it the the way i described it. The only acronym you suggested that i know is RGB. But does that apply to imagination or digital imaging?
Color can be represented in different ways. For example, HSB means hue, saturation, brightness. If you interpolate those components, you will end up at the same endpoint, but the colors in the middle will be different.
Here's a website that lets you play around with it: https://www.learnui.design/tools/gradient-generator.html
One of the primary reasons people use different color representations for gradients is that they don't pass through gray in the middle. RGB gradients tend to have a great band in the center of them.
That's probably way too much information. I just enjoy this type of thing, because I do a lot of web development.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is that is all good in digital mediums. But does it mean anything to Bob Ross?
it's ambiguous for sure. it depends on what the speaker defines as the direction. but i'd give it more weight to direction is from feather to tip. Still the possibility exists it could be the other way too so i had to account for that.
What I see: the 3rd question: There is two guys, Jim and Dave. Dave says to Jim, "Kathy and Jane told me about what Eric did at the meeting yesterday. Kathy said he spilled the coffee, and Jane said he got coffee on his shirt. did they tell you?" Dave says "no"... that's as far as you need to go, lol.
The 5th question is extremely easy to answer; the color of the house is not defined, the color of the arrow IS. This is a question of how well you read the question itself.
me too.
You must be 150!
: )
IQ is nothing to be proud of anon, it's really bs. If you ask me though i think without EQ (Emotional Quotient) it's rather irrelevant. Even still both are rather irrelevant and can lead people to get into a cycle of pride.
Ultimately it's best to be a good person as God would judge. And there, anon, i'm failing like the rest of us all, so i need a savior too.
Life is hard. It’s harder when you are stupid.
Iq is important. Fuck your feelings.
that's what i mean, anon.
I'm high IQ and can confirm that EQ is more important, although I wouldn't fancy my IQ being too low of course :D
I have found that both are needed in life. High IQ & High EQ combined are a winning combo in every situation.
But that combination tends to make one quite lonely.
Would you mind elaborating please, I am genuinely curious? Maybe I have missed something in my life experience.
I haven't found an abundance of IQ & EQ to create lonliness.
Lots of empathy & the ability to help others realize the root cause of why they fail, while making them feel great about it in the moment, has built up a wealth of deep friendships for me over my life.
I tend to agree with u/Jonathan that EQ is more important, though I believe it is because it opens the doors that allow your IQ to flourish in.
I find if you have a high IQ & low EQ, that is when you are generally lonely.
"If you mapped the arrow onto the street"
It's asking you to apply the same principle to the street as you did to the arrow, which is grade it from yellow to green.
It's asking what color would the house be...
Isn't that what I said?
I'm not going to entertain your half assed trolling lol
kek
Well shit, I'm thinking you're right now. Had to reread it a couple of times.
It'll get ya! Lol.
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I have the IQpills from that thread in text, will dump. l did IQ research as a grad student, and it involved a lot of (his stuff. Did you know that most people (95%+) with less than 90 IQ can’t understand conditional hypothetical?
For example:
How would you have felt yesterday evening if you hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch?
What do you mean? I did eat breakfast and lunch.
Yes, but if you had not, how would you have felt?
Why are you saying that I didn't eat breakfast? I just told you that I did.
Imagine that you hadn't eaten it, though. How would you have felt?
l don't understand the question.
lt’s really fascinating. We did research on convicts in San Quentin. They're absolute fucking retards, at least 50% illiterate.
Anther interesting phenomenon around IQ involves recursion.
For example:
Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.
Most literate people can manage this, especially once you give them an example.
Write a story with two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.
ln this story, one of the characters must be describing a story with at least two named characters, each of whom have at least one line of dialogue.
lf you have less than 90 IQ, this second exercise is completely impossible.
Add a third level (“frame”) to the story, and even IQ 100's start to get mixed up with the names and who's talking. Turns out Scheherazade was an IQ test!
Time is practically impossible to understand for sub 80's. They exist only in the present, can barely reflect on the past and can't plan for the future at all.
Sub 90's struggle with anachronism, too. For example. I remember the 80-85's stumbling on logic problems that involved common sense anachronism stuff.
For instance:
Why do you think that military strategists in WWII didn't use laptop computers to help develop their strategies?
l guess they didn't want to get hacked by Nazis?
Admittedly you could argue that this is a history knowledge question, not quite a logic sequencing question, but you get the idea.
Sequencing is super hard for them to track, but most 100+ have no problem with it, although I imagine that a movie like Memento strains them a little.
Recursion was definitely the killer, though.
Recursive thinking and recursive knowledge seems to be genuinely hard for people of even average intelligence (although at San Quentin there weren't too many of those!)
lt’s the main reason why so many people with sub-90 IQ are sociopathic or psychopathic. They don’t have the mental computing power to model other people's thoughts and feelings. I've seen It over and over with convicts.
How do you think that man felt when you beat him?
Dunno.
How do you think that boy's mother felt when she heard that her son was dead?
Dunno,
It comes across as psychopathic, but these people actually don't have the brainpower to build even a crude model of someone else's mind, let alone populate it with events that are in the past
l forgot to mention another important part of abstract reasoning, which is 'mapping'. Basically, expressing one thing in terms of another.
For example:
Imagine a picture of an arrow, colored in a gradient from yellow to green, following the direction of the arrow.
Imagine a one-way residential street, with ascending house numbers, with the lowest number being at the entrance of the Street and the highest number being at the exit.
lf you mapped the arrow onto the street, what color would house number 1 be?
This question really isn't tricky for most 100+s. It has some minor ambiguities, but anyone of normal intelligence can do the 'mapping': that is, the expression of one thing in terms of another.
However, for sub-90's, this stuff is REALLY difficult. They struggle terribly with it. Sub 80's just can't do it at all.
Anything under 90 will routinely make errors with even commonplace mapping (like subway maps, time schedules, etc.) Sub 85s start to get into the territory where they can't learn to read, as symbolic mapping of phonemes (or even morphemes) even with constant drilling, is just too tricky.
Math is another area I could get into, but the long and the short of it is that it's heavily decided by IQ. That's a bit tautological, since it's a principal IQ measurement but you know what I mean.
As for the criminal narcissists etc., I honestly don't know. However, sufficiently high IQ autists can emulate theory of mind, and do. If you're smart enough, you can build a little simulator in your brain. You also need to be smart enough to appreciate the utility of it.
l suspect that any autist or narcissist over 120 can do this stuff regularly without getting tired, but it's like playing a strenuous game of chess for them. They really don't have the 'hardware' for empathy. That's it.
Very interesting! Thanks for posting.
I have said that basic biology explains a lot of things we debate in society, and proves the dimwit Dems wrong on some very important topics (hey, maybe they are Dems because of low IQ ... hmm).
Males and females (only 2 sexes, and gender is a made-up, meaningless construct) have very similar overall IQ test results, with males tending to be stronger in math and females tending to be stronger in verbal.
HOWEVER ...
The bell curve is very different for each. Males tend to have a "fat tails" bell curve, meaning there are more at both extremes, while females tend to be bunched up closer to average, with far fewer at both extremes.
There are about 10 times more males in the genius category of IQ than females. Likewise, there are many more true dumb fucks that are male than female (both ends of the bell curve).
In addition, males have 10 times more testosterone than females, which is the hormone that drives aggressive behavior, whether good or bad.
The result is:
It is biology, more than anything else.
It would be quite fascinating to see the other side of this coin, what people with 130+, 140+ and 150+ IQs can routinely manage. Not just being able to cognitively process things faster with better memory, but these discreet jumps with new abilities being unlocked. Presumably they gain these higher skills at the same rate that skills like empathy, forecasting and extrapolation are lost as IQs are lowered.
What can they do? Rainman type stuff where they can count how many flowers are in a field at just a glance, eidetic memories, more? Humanity needs these people!
I have Asperger's, but I've also tested at 145+ on IQ tests.
I can remember anything I want to remember. There was something my class in school was supposed to memorize, but I chose not to. The next day in class, everyone had to stand up in turn and be quizzed by the teacher. I just sat there watching everyone else struggle. By the time the teacher got to me, I had everything perfectly memorized, better than anyone else in the class.
I remember details from my life all the way back to age 2. I was learning the alphabet and how to write my name at age 3. I was in 1st grade at school at age 5. The nuns said I could skip 1, 2, or even 3 grades if I continued there the next year, but my parents moved, and I had to go to stupid public school.
I am very good at solving puzzles. I can do the average crossword in 5 or 6 minutes, in pen. I am very good at math. I could always do the hard homework problems in advanced math in high school, which irritated a couple of the people who couldn't figure them out. In geometry, I could figure out shorter proofs than the teacher was showing us.
At a job, there was software that was actually going to fail at Y2K. I was asked if I could create a substitute from scratch. I said yes. They accepted that and immediately told the software company that they could just go away. What the company didn't realize was that all the dates in the databases had been encoded in a proprietary scheme to collapse a full date into two characters. But I successfully reverse engineered it and completed my task in plenty of time. I didn't even get a raise for saving the company. I suppose it was because I don't know how to play politics.
Because of my memory, I have memorized many thousands of rules that enable me to pretend to be normal. Most people don't know I'm an Aspie, unless I tell them.
I am very good at seeing patterns in things and thinking outside the box. I might could get work at any number of high level jobs today if I weren't old and liking my life outside corporate so much.
Another thing I do is talk too much without realizing it. :)
I've heard as autism being an evolutionary adoption to societal complexities - as tools, processes etc get more complex out of necessity, they cant outstrip the ability of people to comprehend and use them effectively. Its probably not a recent thing since evolution doesn't work within a generation or two, but a latent human property that has always been around and has helped with the big tech leaps at the historical points where these have occurred. Agriculture, systems of laws, water-wheels, construction techniques.
Some of say that it's actually the next step in human evolution. We are good at following rules, we like to help people, we almost never lie, we have interests we are super involved with, etc. Because of rules, we can't play politics at work. Also because of rules, we can memorize thousands of them so that we can appear normal most of the time. We've had to learn those rules the hard way, by making thousands of mistakes. Most of us do not act like Sheldon. I knew I was different by the time I was 7. Oddly enough, Einstein's IQ is only 10 or so points higher than mine, but no one outside my field has heard of me.
I'm one of those people who believe it's the next step in human evolution.
My kids are aspies; I'm probably borderline. We all have rather high IQs.
My memory has suffered over the past few years because of illness and I'm now rebuilding it.
I work my memory by learning multiple languages at once. I'm at about seven right now.
Not eidetic memory, but similar. I’m in the 155 to 160 range, supposedly. It gives lots of advantages, but also brings issues with every day life and relating to other people.
Also, in order to be in the top of just about any field, you have to become unethical. I raced the corporate ladder super early in life. Then, realized that was not what was important to me. I’ve successfully owned my own business for quite some time, where I can excel at my chosen profession, without compromising my integrity.
Good way to use intelligence. Good for you.
Very cool. Ultimately the choice between having elevated career success and positions + being miserable or compromised, and withdrawing to do whatever makes you happy is no choice at all.
I don't think IQ gives photographic memory. High IQ seems to me like it gives a lot more bandwidth for complex logic and analysis. And they can do it faster
Now here are the real questions: to what degree is IQ genetic and to what degree is it a result of how a person is raised/educated?
The old nature vs nurture debate.
Ah, is a higher IQ individual, whom was raised with a proper education from birth, more likely to replicate that for their progeny building up stronger genetic memory?
OR
Do smart kids repeat what their parents did, so their kids become ven more smart?
In-breeding generates children with sub-90 IQ.
Studies of this type note that that is the reason it is considered taboo because it creates a society without ability to thrive.
Fascinating given my mom had a tested IQ of 72 (back before she had brain cancer and tow surgeries and chemo and radiation and even worse epilepsy). And yet she's in her 50s and my brother just taught her fractions, which she has always struggled with. She's also a great writer and storyteller, and she loves the Titanic, JFK, UFOs, and other things.
If your Mom, Peace be upon her, can cook, that means she can plan and extrapolate, which denotes an IQ over 90. Some tests are badly done.
He's right though; if you asked a sub 90 IQ where do you find groups of birds most commonly at, they would say "outside". Not "in trees" when nesting, or "in ponds" like ducks and geese, or not even "flying north or south" when migrating
A smart man will ask "What do you mean, an African or a European swallow?"
A dumb man will just get mad at you for asking question he doesn't know.
Or at the chicken farm, if dinner.
Indeed. A chicken coop would probably be the most well defined and most simple answer.
What if one were to approach this differently depending on who's asking the question? (Or other factors, such as laziness?)
For example:
If someone who typically annoys me or isn't well known to me asks the question, I would typically go with the quick drive-by answer "outside" and move on with my life. Probably also do the same if I'm lazy and don't want to answer the question with depth.
But, if a friend or an acquaintance that I have personally determined to contain the skills to disseminate information asks, I typically take the time to inquire further and address the reasoning behind the question.
Flying north out south is not hibernating, it’s migrating. Hibernation is when animals sleep through winter. Did you put that in there to test us? 😁
Lol no, I'm half awake and screwed up typing. But yes it does still apply
Well there is auto correct to account for, AI changing your terms based on the input of thousands of sub 100 IQ, coupled with lack is sleep.
My wife tells me that my sleepy texts are far harder to interpret &/or funnier than any drunk texts from coworkers.
When I am mentally exhausted, I give zero cares for what my fam sees 🤣
Exactly what I have been saying all along, except I use dimension to describe thought processes.
There are the 1 dimensional thinkers...they live in the now. Hungry=Eat, Sad=Frustration, Anger=Violence. The ability to correlate and reference past, present and future, is too much. You see most of these people in the news, playing the "Kia challenge", "knock out games" or pushing people of subway platforms.
Multi-dimensional thinking allows the person to pull in reference from many sources to form a complex analysis of their feelings and actions. Seeing things from another perspective, empathy, and reasoning, mediate reactions. Right and Wrong. Strategy and stealth. Action and Reaction. Check and Balance.
Can someone here explain what they mean by “”I already reformatted it for normie consumption…not translating it back to autist”
I understand what “autist” and “normie” mean in the context, but what does it mean by translating. What’s an example of “”autist” format being translated to “normie” or vice versa?
IQ is a measure of one's ability to integrate effectively and comfortably into civilization. Low IQ people would likely excel in a purely "natural world". All the bells and whistles of civilization require some degree of higher brain function, but nature doesn't.
Depends. Nature can require a lot of planning. Dumber people won't do better in any scenario
I think it's more likely low IQ people are a symptom of civilization. Whereas these people would have just died from being morons before, now they're able to survive and somewhat succeed (or stumble through life) due to society's ability to keep them alive and accommodate them to a certain degree.
Yeah, there's that. A lot of people that are comfy and cozy in this version of society would be doomed in an actual free market, capitalistic society.
LOL As a (retired) teacher of 42 years, I can agree with what this guy has written. I've HAD children like these in my classes over the years. Sadly, the educational system is weak when providing real help for many of these children. Over the many years in education, I can honestly say, yes, our educational system is dumbing down our children.
I interview subject matter experts for knowledge capture and sometimes when I need to illustrate the question, I give a hypothetical example to guide their answer.
More times than I can remember, these fucking retards take my hypothetical literally and think that is the question. I'm like, no, that's an example answer, do you have the actual answer for me? <cannot compute silence>
Just using convicts isn't near a big enough sample size though. Should go to public and private schools, community colleges, tech schools, ivy league (get the retarded faggots as well as the actual intelligent students), white collar people that make a fuck ton of money, blue collar people that are in a shitty union working a not shitty job, etc. There are far too many variables and the sample size just wasn't big enough.
You map the arrow in the direction of the one-way street.
It says to map the green and yellow arrow to the street.
Found the problem. You can't imagine the arrow
I have found that making individuals physically create these things in life helps the imagination/visualization for their own future reference. Once the connection is made, it is much easier to practice the skill.
ie Draw it out on paper yourself, and then you can comprehend it in your own mind.
edit- Consider it a skill that you could improve. Like hunting, drawing, meme farming, humor, cooking, etc...
That's why I love flowcharts!
I think this is an interesting article but the author's conclusion is flawed. The sample he's studying is biased because the prison may be filled with low IQ individuals but maybe it's filled with low IQ individuals who are bent towards criminal behavior. He'd have to sample non-imprisoned low IQ people. The lack of empathy is not a result of low IQ.
I've met dumb people who could still display basic empathy. I would guess that the low IQ of criminals is a result of upbringing i.e. a lack of empathy experienced during their childhood years. There are intelligent criminals. The world is run by intelligent sociopaths, so are most corporations.
Most of these criminals were most likely raised by single mothers. They were probably abused by those single mothers or their string of sketchy boyfriends or family members.
Their low IQ is probably a mixed factor of genetic potential, with serious developmental issues from childhood abuse, long term substance abuse and childhood neglect.
I've met plenty of law abiding people who fit some of these descriptions. Maybe low IQ people are predisposed to crime and a lack of empathy but I think this article's conclusion is missing other relevant and significant factors.
Exactly what I have been saying all along, except I use dimension to describe thought processes.
There are the 1 dimensional thinkers...they live in the now. Hungry=Eat, Sad=Frustration, Anger=Violence. The ability to correlate and reference past, present and future, is too much. You see most of these people in the news, playing the "Kia challenge", "knock out games" or pushing people of subway platforms.
Multi-dimensional thinking allows the person to pull in reference from many sources to form a complex analysis of their feelings and actions. Seeing things from another perspective, empathy, and reasoning, mediate reactions. Right and Wrong. Strategy and stealth. Action and Reaction. Check and Balance.
I had a tough time in high school (different story) and ended up not graduating (though still ended up going to college and being successful in life). Before I could get accepted to college, I had to get my GED (high college placement scores helped as well). I think I was 17 at the time. When I went to take the GED exam that determines what classes you need to take, I couldn’t believe the questions on the exam. For example, one of the questions was a picture of four or five coins and you had to determine the value. The questions were all simple like that, I couldn’t believe it. I was in a room with a bunch of other people taking the test, all of them older than me. I finished quickly and sat quietly while the rest finished. I was confused why it was taking of them so long. I went back in the next day to get my class schedule and they said “you don’t need to take any classes because you got every question correct, so just take the final exam and you can get your certificate”. The final exam was easy and I was done in an hour. I wouldn’t have believed what OP posted here if I hadn’t experienced that myself. The last couple years has only solidified that belief further.
Spez: For the record, my comments weren’t meant to disparage anyone. I have loved ones who probably fit into the low IQ category and they are amazing people and I don’t care that they’re not as intelligent as me. It would help when trying to explain some of this stuff, but in the end it doesn’t matter.
This is a pretty good thread. He might’ve benefited from making a distinction between cognitive empathy and affective empathy. In short, cognitive empathy is being able to think about what other people are thinking, and affective empathy is being able to feel what other people are feeling. Different parts of the brain are responsible for thoughts vs feelings. A high IQ psychopath has a malformed part of the brain that is responsible for regulating feelings, but the parts that generate thoughts are functional. That’s how he’s able to use the theory of mind to figure out what other people are thinking, ie cognitive empathy. He’s not able to figure out other peoples’ feelings though. A low IQ person might be categorized as a psychopath because he’s clueless of other peoples’ feelings, but if he is so lacking in intellect that he can’t figure out other peoples’ perspectives and therefore their probable thoughts, he has no chance of figuring out how other people feel about their thoughts. So really, he’s not even up to the level of a psychopath. Would you call a rattlesnake a psychopath because it has no idea what other creatures are feeling?
When all of you visualized the arrow in your mind, what direction was the arrow pointing? Also, what does the direction indicate about a person?
I visualized left to right. But I wonder if those who write / read from right to left would have done the opposite?
Now do how low IQ hinders the ability to create memes hence why the left can’t meme
And this is why most of us of a certain age suspected PhD students were the dumbest people on campus, especially the sociology and education students.
Has this genius ever met someone with downs syndrome? Or any of God's innocents?
I'd like to see anon outline what 100+ find difficult. 120+, etc. This all smells of bullshit to me.
I would like to see an Emotional Quotient paired with that test.
There are many "really smart" individuals I have worked with that struggle with (can't grasp) social cues.
I think of this like the difference between those who can read the music, understanding the mathematical composition, & those who can feel the music in them, enjoying the vibration it brings to the soul.
A bat and ball cost $1.10.
The bat costs one dollar more than the ball.
How much does the ball cost?
Here's a better one:
If a gallon of gas cost $1.95 on January 21, 2020, and the same gallon of gas cost $5.20 on January 21, 2022, then how many times should we chant, "Fuck Joe Biden" at the next football game?
Haha! Over one hundred? 😃😃😃
As it gained 325 cents in a year, we see how Biden even failed to get it to increase by a cent a day in a year, so, I’d say go for the missing 40.
$0.05.
Half a dime.
Sounds about Right
"They exist only in the present"
Enlightened ! (jk)