RFK jr is a leftist plain and simple. Just because he has spoken out against the vaccine doesnt make him MAGA. He is against the 2A and is for the climate agenda. There isnt a MAGA bone in his body. He shares zero political DNA with us.
gotta look at all the angles..what if robert is playing his part but has to signal loud and clear he doesnt want repub nor maga votes...now back to the show
JFK and his brother RFK were both assassinated, both by "lone gunmen." Yeah.
The assassin of RFK was named Sirhan Sirhan, and was likely an MK-Ultra victim, programmed to be an assassin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy
Not to mention he calls himself a Democrat. After learning about the founding and history of the Democrat party, I would never identify with that, or associate with anyone who does.
And even if you did prior to 2016, everything that has occurred since then shouts loudly to RUN -- and run fast. Dems are the party of depravity and decay. They are the Roman Senate (oligarchs themselves) overseeing the demise of the Republic. Only this isnt ancient Rome and there are others in this world who will forestall the Empire that replaced the Republic. Dems will be left ruling over ashes if they arent defeated.
To all of the 'honest' dems left, the message is clear, RUN. Your life depends on it.
HOwever, that was 2018, and most liberals hated the NRA. Since then, I think people like RFK have realized that our govt. is trying to kill us. Good reason for everyone to be armed. It is not just the vaccines either, but the food they have been telling us to eat. I have known 2 people whose doctors have told them that the healthiest diet is a vegetarian diet! This is insane as we are carnivores.
Vegetables are sprayed like crazy with pesticides, GMOs in the soil. Doctors know nothing about diet and nutrition, and less about medicines, herbs and natural cures. Meat is best with the occasional nuts and berries thrown in. Grapes, pears and citrus are high in sugar, so those should be limited.
I cured a staff infection once when the Dr. had tried 3 Antibiotics and failed. Saying hospital was next stop. Took vitamins and ate healthier, washed 1 time a week in rubbing alcohol.
I cured nail fungus in a split thumbnail by grinding it paper thin and soaking in strong bleach water.
If doctors knew about nutrition, big pharma would be hurting for money.
There are plenty of doctors who lecture their patients on healthy diets and lifestyle choices.
But most people just ignore them. And let's be real, unless someone has lived their entire lives under a rock, they know the basics of healthy diet and exercise without a doctor having to tell them.
But so many people love their soda and cheeseburgers and processed snacks and cigarettes and beer too much to give them up.
Yes but, it's not priority for them. If they just recommend a diet change instead of prescribing a drug they are liable to get sued. Also, most are twenty years behind and into the low fat, low cholesterol, high seed oils diet. They have to be somewhat brain washed to make it through med school cult. There are a few clear headed ones though. Western medicine is unique in that you can have an obese person be your health advisor.
True processed sugar is worse, but those mentioned are also high in carbohydrates. There are also pesticides on our citrus just like with everything these days. Berries, apples are lower in sugars, so better for you.
Fruit may be fine for you, but it is not fine for all. These kind of blanket statements are dangerous, especially when made by doctors. There are so many issues that people have, and they have no idea it is being caused by an improper diet for them. We all accept lactose intolerance in some individuals, but will not accept the other foods can be very harmful to some people. Please, go watch a couple of you tube vids by Dr. Ken Berry.
And I would advise you to watch some Dr. Pail Saldino aka carnivoremd. Sure fruits maybe bad for some individuals but in general they are fine and the natural sugar is fine.
Honestly, I would stay away from fructose as well. I started watching a Dr. Ken Berry on youtube. He is an easy watch, and seems to really know his stuff. I have been suffering from leg and hip pain for years. It has really affected my enjoyment of life. I have been staying home because I could only walk for about 10 min. at a time. After trying many remedies, I finally realized it wasn't arthritis, or various nerve issues, I had inflamation. I started eating only meat and dairy, for now, and I am so much better. It will take some time but I am shocked at how much misinformation I had.
Yes. I am not hurting like I was, and it has only been a month. I am starting to get much more range of motion, and can now walk around enough to grocery shop.
I did the Atkins thing 3 times like 20 years ago. 3 months each time. Biggest problem is the body wants to maintain weight and will fight you. Eat a cookie, then the whole pack and diet done for. Kek. Don't beat yourself up, just go at it again like you said.
I'm not skinny, but weigh less than I did when I got married again 12 years ago.
My non-diet diet. Drink a lot of water before eating food. Eat lots of veggies FIRST with as little condiments as you can stand. If going for low salt eat fresh, OR birdseye peas, carrots, green beans, and corn. Lower salt than most frozen.
There's always the latest fad food, but just eat as many colors of veggies as you can. Once you start getting full just eat what you like. The veggies and water will keep you from over doing it.
A little fruit is good, a lot not so much. Variety of colors like veggies.
Black seed oil and turmeric have almost cured my family member’s arthritis in their fingers and hands. Found out about black seed oil supplements from this very site!
Wow,
I happened to catch your comment.
For a very different reason , I happen to be in ketosis since January. I needed to finally shed all that pathetic covid weight I put on ;-)
I am losing that weight very leisurely though( 30 lbs so far ). That being said, the best thing that has happened to me was rid me of the ups and downs I used to get , energy -wise. I don’t thrive off adrenaline anymore .. my energy is very even keel. Plus , I thought I would want a “cheat “day- but I have absolutely no desire for carbs .
I agree with you. Listen, I was pro-vax before 2020.
There.. I said it .
When Trump promoted the covid vaccine , I couldn’t wait to take it. I have since not only changed my mind..im still taking huge back steps from what I though I knew about vaccines PERIOD.
We have to give these people a blank slate , starting with 2021. At least that’s my opinion.
The world is a different place now.
That’s very true and I’m glad when anyone can be honest, I totally agree re vax. I was an alternate schedule kind of person, no Hep B in hospital for newborns kind of person…
But I did know every year I got the flu shot…I got the flu BAD. And now I won’t take a flu shot, or even give a flu shot to my dog.
And until I went in this Q journey, I didn’t fully appreciate what a fool I was, voting for Bush Sr and Jr…fully believing in the official story of 9-11…I’ve been as much of a fool as normies are now…so keep talking and dropping red pills wherever you go, happy warrior.
If anyone on this board thinks any Democrat can be trusted, they clearly didn’t read the Q drops spelling out they all are solely in office to destroy America.
misjudgement on your part. Pro iacta = throwing before = challenge or ad cusation. My text does neither of those things. it merely shows what is based on observation.
Of course, you may find his other work, like jab resistance, to be worthy of praise, and I would agree with you. The jab-system only exists because an artificial market has been created by the government with two main components: mandate and lack of legal accountability. If it weren't for these two, the jab-pushers would have been out of business decades ago. So, fighting such lack of righteousness is a praise worthy endeavor.
That should not suggest this man to be a saint in all respects of discourse.
All those cheering for RFK, thinking he's on our side, need to realize he never was nor will be MAGA, he is a Democrat to the bone and always will be. Many assume his vaccine stance proves he's based. That proves nothing - it was the liberals who were against vaccines long before Covid and he's one of them.
Supporting someone running against Biden because it will be destructive to the Dem party is not cheering him on. There's a distinction. The enemy of my enemy...
Seems to me they were right about the vaccines. I really wish we could start labeling things correctly. The notion of left vs. right is part of the brainwashing. This is about "we the people, vs. the globalist scum. If we believe that previous democrats cannot change, then there can be no great awakening. Heck, I voted for Bush, and supported the war in Iraq at the time. Now, I am embarrassed by that.
That's okay. You don't have to vote for him, I don't plan on it either. I can't imagine anyone here would with the exception of shills and the occasional glowie bastard that visits.
But he is useful to our cause as one of the only elected federal politicians to have openly (and consistently) criticized the Jab and all of the tyranny surrounding it.
The Great Awakening is dependent on getting the sleeping masses to wake TF up. Covid "vaccines" are a huge component of that equation. We NEED Democrats to help wake these stubborn idiots up.
He just sealed his loss. There are to many gun advocates and 2nd amendment, Constitutional carry advocates for him to win. Anyone who wants to place gun barriers up, it is a hard NO. Add to that the non-scientific climate change which is simply a money maker for the promoters and a pocket drain for the average person.
Absolutely and not because the Republicans are the good guys but because that's all we have until there's a third MAGA party. Trump knows that would just split the ticket and guarantee the Dems will but the traitors among the Republicans may just keep pushing until this happens. I'm especially looking at you, Ronna the duck-lipped rino.
He is not here to get yours or our votes. He is here to take Biden votes. So Trump 💯% win. Just like Kanye West. Remember there r never Trumper will never wake up, at least he could wake some people up about vaccines.
Considering how many of the Kennedy family have been killed or disappeared over the years, the fact that this one is still out there in the public eye and is NOT dead says a lot.
I find it curious that you wouldn't vote for RFK Jr for that quote, but don't seem to be bothered by Trump's support of red flag laws and when he said "Take the guns first. Go through due process second, I like taking the guns early,".
I'm all for getting rid of the NRA too..as long as the people have their clear right to carry arms...concealed and unconcealed and will NEVER be infringed. No need for any of those agencies.
Guys. Didn’t the NRA support restrictions on automatic weapons? The NRA is not your friend. Read between the lines. Don’t be fucking rubes like GAW mods. RFK is not our enemy.
All anti 1A and 2A politician's can never be voted for, and should legally be prevented from running for office due to their calls to subvert, and undermine the constitution- unless they are calling for a constitutional amendment. And in that case, people should simply not vote for them.
He's a Patriot doing his part to redpill the left. By not being Pro-Trump, he's able to separate himself and not be immediately rejected by the left. Some of them will actually listen to his vax speeches. No point preaching to the choir.
The NRA is a corrupt organization that looks on the surface like they are good, but they back a lot of RINOs, what was wrong with RFK Jr questioning it? The way I read his tweet was, the NRA has questionable lobbying practices that support gun control, instead of advocate against it, like it appears. If you look at that angle, is he wrong? Or am I out in left field?
He learned, personally and the hard way, the evil of the cabals medical tyranny. Hopefully it won't take a similar hard lesson to learn that medical tyranny is not the only weapon of the cabal. He should have learned that by now.
RFK jr is a leftist plain and simple. Just because he has spoken out against the vaccine doesnt make him MAGA. He is against the 2A and is for the climate agenda. There isnt a MAGA bone in his body. He shares zero political DNA with us.
“…he has spoken out about the vaccine…” Sounds like some shared DNA.
...there may appear to be a difference between someone who is pro vaccine and pro gun and someone who is anti vaccine and anti gun...
...but it is just uni-party gibberish....
...two sides of the same coin....
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/the-problem-with-lesser-evils-uniparty
THIS! 👆 On target Sirpatriotpup! 🎯
...wags tail joyously....
Have a Joyful Easter fren! ✝️🙌🕊️
At least he didn't promote the vaccine 😬 Maybe he's playing 5d chess with his anti NRA stance.
I don't vote on maybes....
As if anyone here was gonna vote for him anyway, LOL
Maybe he’s Q- lol
gotta look at all the angles..what if robert is playing his part but has to signal loud and clear he doesnt want repub nor maga votes...now back to the show
Exactly.
Wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Imagine the counterattack TPTB have when Trump starts posting true statements about RFK not being a friend of the American people.
“Trump attacks son of assassinated Robert Kennedy! Truly heartless piece of trash!”
Not sure if you made a typo or accurately predicting their gaslighting attempts but wasn’t it JFK that was assassinated.
JFK and his brother RFK were both assassinated, both by "lone gunmen." Yeah.
The assassin of RFK was named Sirhan Sirhan, and was likely an MK-Ultra victim, programmed to be an assassin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy
They both were????
Please tell me you went to school outside of the US.
I dropped out of the indoctrination system to enlist. Before that I was always cutting classes.
Not to mention he calls himself a Democrat. After learning about the founding and history of the Democrat party, I would never identify with that, or associate with anyone who does.
Trump was democrat.
Everyone awakens sooner or later
Trump was a businessman. He was what he had to be to not get fucked over.
Not to mention the potential long term aspect of the plan.
And even if you did prior to 2016, everything that has occurred since then shouts loudly to RUN -- and run fast. Dems are the party of depravity and decay. They are the Roman Senate (oligarchs themselves) overseeing the demise of the Republic. Only this isnt ancient Rome and there are others in this world who will forestall the Empire that replaced the Republic. Dems will be left ruling over ashes if they arent defeated.
To all of the 'honest' dems left, the message is clear, RUN. Your life depends on it.
Which made more real world difference than nasty NRA tweets. Trump could have taken a cue from RFK in this regard.
...that is a fly in the ointment no doubt....
If he serves to splinter the votes just with the small number of libs left that will be good
...valid observation...
They vote for who they're told to. He will only siphon maga votes
HOwever, that was 2018, and most liberals hated the NRA. Since then, I think people like RFK have realized that our govt. is trying to kill us. Good reason for everyone to be armed. It is not just the vaccines either, but the food they have been telling us to eat. I have known 2 people whose doctors have told them that the healthiest diet is a vegetarian diet! This is insane as we are carnivores.
Vegetables are sprayed like crazy with pesticides, GMOs in the soil. Doctors know nothing about diet and nutrition, and less about medicines, herbs and natural cures. Meat is best with the occasional nuts and berries thrown in. Grapes, pears and citrus are high in sugar, so those should be limited.
If doctors knew about nutrition, big pharma would be hurting for money.
Exactly.
I cured a staff infection once when the Dr. had tried 3 Antibiotics and failed. Saying hospital was next stop. Took vitamins and ate healthier, washed 1 time a week in rubbing alcohol.
I cured nail fungus in a split thumbnail by grinding it paper thin and soaking in strong bleach water.
That is awesome to hear. Some friend fixed his kid's black infected tooth with colloidal silver. It's good to share anecdotes.
For the staff infection Vitamin c, Iron, 2 multi-vitamins.
There are plenty of doctors who lecture their patients on healthy diets and lifestyle choices.
But most people just ignore them. And let's be real, unless someone has lived their entire lives under a rock, they know the basics of healthy diet and exercise without a doctor having to tell them.
But so many people love their soda and cheeseburgers and processed snacks and cigarettes and beer too much to give them up.
Yes but, it's not priority for them. If they just recommend a diet change instead of prescribing a drug they are liable to get sued. Also, most are twenty years behind and into the low fat, low cholesterol, high seed oils diet. They have to be somewhat brain washed to make it through med school cult. There are a few clear headed ones though. Western medicine is unique in that you can have an obese person be your health advisor.
Isn't the natural sugar in those not bad for you as opposed to processed sugar? Or another doc not knowing shit.
True processed sugar is worse, but those mentioned are also high in carbohydrates. There are also pesticides on our citrus just like with everything these days. Berries, apples are lower in sugars, so better for you.
👍
Sugar in fruit is not processed the same as processed sugar. Fruit is fine.
Look at the glycemic index. Stevia, Erythritol, Allulose, Monk Fruit, are good sweeteners, find the ones you like. Allulose = $$$.
Stevia is nasty! Will try the others.
Fruit may be fine for you, but it is not fine for all. These kind of blanket statements are dangerous, especially when made by doctors. There are so many issues that people have, and they have no idea it is being caused by an improper diet for them. We all accept lactose intolerance in some individuals, but will not accept the other foods can be very harmful to some people. Please, go watch a couple of you tube vids by Dr. Ken Berry.
And I would advise you to watch some Dr. Pail Saldino aka carnivoremd. Sure fruits maybe bad for some individuals but in general they are fine and the natural sugar is fine.
Honestly, I would stay away from fructose as well. I started watching a Dr. Ken Berry on youtube. He is an easy watch, and seems to really know his stuff. I have been suffering from leg and hip pain for years. It has really affected my enjoyment of life. I have been staying home because I could only walk for about 10 min. at a time. After trying many remedies, I finally realized it wasn't arthritis, or various nerve issues, I had inflamation. I started eating only meat and dairy, for now, and I am so much better. It will take some time but I am shocked at how much misinformation I had.
Do you like being in ketosis?
Yes. I am not hurting like I was, and it has only been a month. I am starting to get much more range of motion, and can now walk around enough to grocery shop.
Just don't eat the first cookie or you are screwed. Kek.
I did the Atkins thing 3 times like 20 years ago. 3 months each time. Biggest problem is the body wants to maintain weight and will fight you. Eat a cookie, then the whole pack and diet done for. Kek. Don't beat yourself up, just go at it again like you said.
I'm not skinny, but weigh less than I did when I got married again 12 years ago.
My non-diet diet. Drink a lot of water before eating food. Eat lots of veggies FIRST with as little condiments as you can stand. If going for low salt eat fresh, OR birdseye peas, carrots, green beans, and corn. Lower salt than most frozen.
There's always the latest fad food, but just eat as many colors of veggies as you can. Once you start getting full just eat what you like. The veggies and water will keep you from over doing it.
A little fruit is good, a lot not so much. Variety of colors like veggies.
Black seed oil and turmeric have almost cured my family member’s arthritis in their fingers and hands. Found out about black seed oil supplements from this very site!
Wow, I happened to catch your comment. For a very different reason , I happen to be in ketosis since January. I needed to finally shed all that pathetic covid weight I put on ;-) I am losing that weight very leisurely though( 30 lbs so far ). That being said, the best thing that has happened to me was rid me of the ups and downs I used to get , energy -wise. I don’t thrive off adrenaline anymore .. my energy is very even keel. Plus , I thought I would want a “cheat “day- but I have absolutely no desire for carbs .
People eat too much fruit...
I agree with you. Listen, I was pro-vax before 2020. There.. I said it . When Trump promoted the covid vaccine , I couldn’t wait to take it. I have since not only changed my mind..im still taking huge back steps from what I though I knew about vaccines PERIOD. We have to give these people a blank slate , starting with 2021. At least that’s my opinion. The world is a different place now.
That’s very true and I’m glad when anyone can be honest, I totally agree re vax. I was an alternate schedule kind of person, no Hep B in hospital for newborns kind of person…
But I did know every year I got the flu shot…I got the flu BAD. And now I won’t take a flu shot, or even give a flu shot to my dog.
And until I went in this Q journey, I didn’t fully appreciate what a fool I was, voting for Bush Sr and Jr…fully believing in the official story of 9-11…I’ve been as much of a fool as normies are now…so keep talking and dropping red pills wherever you go, happy warrior.
People like RFK should have realised that our government is trying to kill us when they um... well... KILLED HIS FATHER AND UNCLE!
u/#q3049
If anyone on this board thinks any Democrat can be trusted, they clearly didn’t read the Q drops spelling out they all are solely in office to destroy America.
RFK Jr. is not in office.
"I think people like RFK have realized that our govt. is trying to kill us"
Then it's up to him to retract his gun-grabbing rhetoric. Otherwise we must assume he hasn't changed his mind.
Always blaming the inanimate object vs the person doing it.
There is a law and a judicial process. But for gut-menschen it is not enough. The God complex shines through.
Projection.
Edit: projection as in, DNC and liberals always project into an enemy. This time…. The gun.
misjudgement on your part. Pro iacta = throwing before = challenge or ad cusation. My text does neither of those things. it merely shows what is based on observation.
Of course, you may find his other work, like jab resistance, to be worthy of praise, and I would agree with you. The jab-system only exists because an artificial market has been created by the government with two main components: mandate and lack of legal accountability. If it weren't for these two, the jab-pushers would have been out of business decades ago. So, fighting such lack of righteousness is a praise worthy endeavor.
That should not suggest this man to be a saint in all respects of discourse.
Try again, please.
We agree. I made a badly worded statement.
All those cheering for RFK, thinking he's on our side, need to realize he never was nor will be MAGA, he is a Democrat to the bone and always will be. Many assume his vaccine stance proves he's based. That proves nothing - it was the liberals who were against vaccines long before Covid and he's one of them.
Supporting someone running against Biden because it will be destructive to the Dem party is not cheering him on. There's a distinction. The enemy of my enemy...
Seems to me they were right about the vaccines. I really wish we could start labeling things correctly. The notion of left vs. right is part of the brainwashing. This is about "we the people, vs. the globalist scum. If we believe that previous democrats cannot change, then there can be no great awakening. Heck, I voted for Bush, and supported the war in Iraq at the time. Now, I am embarrassed by that.
It’s like saying Elizabeth Warren is suddenly MAGA because she called out the Fed for bad policies.
Or Bernie Sanders, because Seth Rich worked for him, even though Sanders never made a sound after his murder.
I’m sick of it.
That's okay. You don't have to vote for him, I don't plan on it either. I can't imagine anyone here would with the exception of shills and the occasional glowie bastard that visits.
But he is useful to our cause as one of the only elected federal politicians to have openly (and consistently) criticized the Jab and all of the tyranny surrounding it.
The Great Awakening is dependent on getting the sleeping masses to wake TF up. Covid "vaccines" are a huge component of that equation. We NEED Democrats to help wake these stubborn idiots up.
He just sealed his loss. There are to many gun advocates and 2nd amendment, Constitutional carry advocates for him to win. Anyone who wants to place gun barriers up, it is a hard NO. Add to that the non-scientific climate change which is simply a money maker for the promoters and a pocket drain for the average person.
“He just sealed his loss”.
This tweet was from 2018. Learn chronology.
I doubt he has changed his mind even though it was 2018. I did miss that it was old.
DEMOCRAT says it all. The only people you need to vet for a vote are R and I
Absolutely and not because the Republicans are the good guys but because that's all we have until there's a third MAGA party. Trump knows that would just split the ticket and guarantee the Dems will but the traitors among the Republicans may just keep pushing until this happens. I'm especially looking at you, Ronna the duck-lipped rino.
He’s buddies with HRC and endorsed her twice!
Never vote for a Democrat
He is still a leftist even though he is right about vaccines.
Why Frederick Douglass, JFK, and Sam Adams saw the 2A as a right that preserves all others.
Good question, but if Jr's father and uncle were taken out by a bullet I can see why he would be against the 2nd.
He is not here to get yours or our votes. He is here to take Biden votes. So Trump 💯% win. Just like Kanye West. Remember there r never Trumper will never wake up, at least he could wake some people up about vaccines.
Well he's still a Dem I guess.
Agreed - but I hope he splits the DNC into splinters.
He's not just anti vaccine. He has been on the forefront getting information out there on Fauci's bullshit
Logically he would be traumatized by gun violence during his life. Being a dem he can't separate the object from the act.
Considering how many of the Kennedy family have been killed or disappeared over the years, the fact that this one is still out there in the public eye and is NOT dead says a lot.
How many have the kennedy family killed ? Ted killed pregnant mary jo
And Marilyn didn't kill herself
As always blame the gun don't blame the holder of it, he is grossly misguided
He's a democrat. He will never get my vote. My hope is he becomes the dem nominee. Biden communism goes down.
I find it curious that you wouldn't vote for RFK Jr for that quote, but don't seem to be bothered by Trump's support of red flag laws and when he said "Take the guns first. Go through due process second, I like taking the guns early,".
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/the-problem-with-lesser-evils-uniparty
I'm all for getting rid of the NRA too..as long as the people have their clear right to carry arms...concealed and unconcealed and will NEVER be infringed. No need for any of those agencies.
What I think RFK jr's role is: Attack Bidan, attack the vax, and have it become obvious that the democrats cheat to make sure he loses the primary.
Guys. Didn’t the NRA support restrictions on automatic weapons? The NRA is not your friend. Read between the lines. Don’t be fucking rubes like GAW mods. RFK is not our enemy.
Funny thing is NRA is also a negative force against 2a. Fuck NRA more than RFK imo but fuck em both.
He’s got a strong case going in his pursuit of the corruption in Big Pharma. That said, he should stay in his lane.
Let's be honest. Guns are not the problem. Guns are inanimate objects. People are the problem.
All anti 1A and 2A politician's can never be voted for, and should legally be prevented from running for office due to their calls to subvert, and undermine the constitution- unless they are calling for a constitutional amendment. And in that case, people should simply not vote for them.
He's a Patriot doing his part to redpill the left. By not being Pro-Trump, he's able to separate himself and not be immediately rejected by the left. Some of them will actually listen to his vax speeches. No point preaching to the choir.
Y'all out here defending the NRA like it is the second amendment.
I'd like to hear where he stands on 2a not some shady Non governmental organization like the NRA.
The NRA is a corrupt organization that looks on the surface like they are good, but they back a lot of RINOs, what was wrong with RFK Jr questioning it? The way I read his tweet was, the NRA has questionable lobbying practices that support gun control, instead of advocate against it, like it appears. If you look at that angle, is he wrong? Or am I out in left field?
He learned, personally and the hard way, the evil of the cabals medical tyranny. Hopefully it won't take a similar hard lesson to learn that medical tyranny is not the only weapon of the cabal. He should have learned that by now.
Let's be honest. This is BS.