Trump Must Pay Half a Billion Dollars Before He Can Appeal New York Decision (Can they do this, any Lawyers out there to comment on this?)
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It dont sound right to me. Kinda defeats the point of the appeal if you have to pay anywaus then basically make the state give a half billion refund after
NY is a lousy financial bet. They are beyond broke. But I have never heard of paying a bond to be able to appeal a decision. NY has gone full blown nazi dictatorship.
They are used across the country.
This is not a NY thing .
You can find your state rules here.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/judicial/publications/appellate_issues/2019/summer/staying-judgment-with-appeal-bonds/
Thank you. Honestly didn't think this through in terms a plaintive who has an honest case against an insurance company or a large corporation. A bond makes sense if there's a victim. In this particular case Trump is the victim and this is a ny pile-on.
Has anyone determined who gets the money?
10% for the big guy
Illegal immigrants, most likely.
I think it goes to NY state.
I know there is a fund for victims of crime, but I don't know if civil judgements go into that
So dishonest. Makes me sick.
It is so wrong, my reaction is guttural.
"I feel hit in the gut" would be what you really mean. "Guttural" is used to describe speech or various tones used in speech. It's not about your gut.
Yes. That sound where you make a deep growel or preparing to spit? That would be right. Both apply. Thank you. Usage is important.
And there's no victim in this case.
This was a provision written directly into this NY 'get Trump' law.
That's not true, it's been on the books in New York since the 60s
The law the case was tried under passed 67 years ago. When Trump was 10.
It's separate from the rules on appeals.
They will then try to tax you on the money they gave back to you
Then Trump's gonna sue NY and that hellhole city into the dirt.
Either that, or he could start denying federal funds until they correct this injustice once he is president.
This is standard practice.
Let's say you sue me and you are awarded $100,000.
If I didn't want to pay you or just delay paying you I could spend $30 and file an appeal. Even if I had no chance of winning. So to prevent frivolous appeals they make you put up the money.
It's standard practice when there is a victim, there is no victim. Kinda renders that logic useless.
In this case the state is considered the victim. Not saying I agree, just pointing out why they're using that standard here
Not the state "The People of New York"
"Frivolous appeals".
Anyway, it should not be higher than what is stated in the initial ruling. In the case of what is stated in the initial ruling, only a retarded TDS addled Epstein supporter would agree with.
The number is based on the original ruling plus interest.
LMFAO!!!!!
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_85VrWHQ-fo
Had to use the Russian search engine to find it, lol
Yandex.com
I use Yandex more than any other search engine. It’s crazy how much is censored.
I grew up in 80's and the height of cold War.
Blows my mind that we now use a Russian search engine to find stuff.
Our country is beautiful, but it's leaders are lost.
I grew up in the 70s and we learned Russia was bad! I now believe it was lies maybe to make us fear something. It was great growing up in the 70s even though the blissful peace was fake. I’m grateful I grew up in the 70s & 80s. They were great! I believe it was the fifties when people started building bunkers because Russia would release the nukes. Yes our country is beautiful and we have good people here. Sadly for decades we trusted our gov was looking out for our best interest. Instead like every villain they have only looked out for themselves.
The Western elites love fascism and their version of capitalism aka rule by capital. They hated and feared Communism because of the threat of a Red Terror targeting them, not for the crimes and fundamental evils of Communist/Marxist ideology. Thus, the propaganda.
I do too. It is amazing. Just look at the difference in search results.
yandex.eu gets you results in English.
Once the truckers cause 8 million people to begin to starve this clearly unconstitutional law will be overturned. Anybody who thinks crime is bad in NYC now is about to see hell rain down on them. I bet this costs NYC billions dealing with the crime that is about to come.
I remember one the cases where Trump had to appear initially cost the city over $90 million in security and police overtime.
Good. I want all these shit lib areas to be war zones. Seattle, NYC, LA, SF etc.
It's all fun and games until the surrounding states get flooded with the population fleeing from these shit holes.
Most of the people leaving Washington State are conservatives and moderates.
The issue is more shit libs buying second houses in places like Montana driving the house prices up.
I want them to repent of their sins before it's too late.
Like Lott's wife ?
American society is just 2 meals away from collapse. The minority population has demonstrated repeatedly that they will loot, burn, rob and murder without provocation, as long as they believe they can benefit from a natural disaster, or an unpopular ruling
The city will burn itself to the ground. Then the parasites will simply look for any host
'dasting. I had not quite made that connection. Yes,
Escape from New York https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082340/
NYC reminds me of Gotham City. I’ve been twice decades ago and loved it. Would not want to live there or any big city. It’s such a shame to city gov has ruined a great city. I believe there are a lot of patriots there. Will be interesting to see them take a stand. Praying for them.
The Storm For NYC
The truckers need to shut down New York 100% no mercy
How can any singnle person wield infinite power? This judge appears to answer to nobody
Hubris and arrogance makes him feel immune to consequences.... All the greater fall for him though..
The case will be appealed.
I can't find it, but didn't Trump say in an interview something to the effect , "He wondered who would stick with him if he lost everything."
That was decades ago. He was in his 30 or 40's.
He said he would like to have the chance to lose everything and see who was still there to support him.
Im sticking with president Trump through everything.
Through it all, the end.
Yes, correct ,though, he did!
Do you have a place to start for some sauce? I'm looking?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_85VrWHQ-fo
Yes and I believe it was long before the escalator ride....
See my reply to Aslan. Your both correct! He did.
Lol, I tried Google, Bing and brave.
Nowhere to be found.
I tried the Russian search engine and bamn first result.
What a crock of shit.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_85VrWHQ-fo
Yessssss. I don't remember when. But you and the post under you are both correct! He did say that! I can't remember when either. Along time ago!
Amazing what a decade does to ones memory...... And with Trump, there are just too many quotes that should be too memorable to forget!!
Agreed! 💯
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_85VrWHQ-fo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_85VrWHQ-fo
(Oops, anon u/CigarTsar already found this, didn’t see it before I posted so redundant here)
It’s a bond no one can touch until the appeal is decided but it’s still BS.
That's still going to tie up the money& maybe make him have to sell off some assets. Anything to hurt him.
You hit the nail on the head. This is in motion and it's coming fast.
I tried to figure out the asset issues of this and it's going to be an issue. Most of his wealth is not liquis. Forbes estimated he has about 400 million cash, but he still has a lot of other loans on his buildings.
https://greatawakening.win/p/17sP6RDBcE/original-research--wtf-just-happ/
So they’re trying to break him financially with this?
There are no words for these depths.
They can do it. It's basically a bond that can't be touched until after the appeal process. They did the same with that E. Jean Carroll case.
But a two-bit criminal doesn't have to pay a bond. How does that work?
So basically, he's fucked and has to pay either way?
No, the bond, in case of appeal, is like a specially held fund that can be returned to the defendant. So, it means that instead of paying 350M in 'fines',( to whom? ), he can choose to pay 500M into a bank account, with the strong likelihood of getting it back.
OBVIO he ain't f*cked yet.
lol, I wouldn't trust seeing a dime of it again given how they act against him
Oh, yes I'm sure it'll be returned. In 2025.
There will probably be some weird accounting error that makes it inaccessible in some fashion or spends it so they can't return it to him.
And you can be sure, that if that is the case, then Trump will start raising money to fund his very succesful campaign, while his half Billion is in the dock. As you say, he'll see it again, maybe in 2025. He'll be president, then, prolly.
The creative ways he raises money grinds their wee craws a bit more. You see, he has other talents than Real Estate in New York. Just look at the troll-fest that occurred around the recent golden-sneaker event. In 24 hours, they were sold out. (How many units? Anyone know?) They are still kvetching about that, because the sneakers are selling now, for exponentially larger sums https://www.newsweek.com/trump-sneakers-selling-thousands-1871100. LOLOL
They can't even fill a school hall and sell a book to each attendee.
My ass!
Given how stickyfingered these NYC crooks are, I wouldn't trust them with a cent of my money.
'tis true, it is still a gamble.
Would be hilarious if Elon Musk posted his bond.
came here to say this... that would be stupendous for sure!
It appears that Engeron support-group are hastily building a pre-emptive brick wall around their precious, to stop the invasion of Trump's discovery teams.
If it is a bond, then it should be returned when the appeal is succesful. So no issues, we all know that Trump can a) afford it and b)will get it back, because it's all lies and unconstirutional. However, such a massive prize attracts cockroaches with greedy, beady little eyes on the honey.
Hang on,
It's a trap.
Genius.
I'm anxiously awaiting the boomerang on this one. Disgusting, but I'm sure GEOTUS has something up his sleeve.
Deutsche Bank would probably give him a loan!
What would be the interest on that much money?
The interest is set at 9%. In the NY case it's already 100 million.
Yes.
He could get $500 million at 9% interest bond via loan from someone like Deutsche Bank. His R.E. interests pledged to the bank for 2 years.
I've also read that he could make $billions (1-4) on his interest in Truth Social, etc...
I think he waits until all the amount shakes out, then goes to SCOTUS. If that fails, he puts together a deal for himself w/ loans.
Imagine the irony if Deutsche Bank, the "victim" in the big $350million case, ended up posting his bond!!
I call bullshit.
No it isn't.
It would be funny for some bank or financier to back the $500M sum and then say that they did it because they know, by his track record, that he's good for it.
Do you have to serve a jail sentence before you can appeal the decision? Makes no sense.
The truckers doing it by refusing to deliver goods to NYC.
Escape from Nuevo York …
I am stealing this
https://quotefancy.com/quote/946002/Donald-Trump-If-I-lost-everything-and-had-to-start-again-I-would-find-myself-a-great
https://youtube.com/shorts/dnEIKG5wBk4?si=2g9EIjJ3sL2QOBEh
Thanks I was looking for that vid. I hate to say this, but I don't think they're though trying to ruin him financially.
You are welcome. Sorry it took me a few. I agree.
Link without all junk.
Most people dont have a half billion sitting around. What is Trump to do?
He clearly cant go to a bank in New York for a loan - they think he assets are essentially worthless.
I tried to walk through some of it here. https://greatawakening.win/p/17sP6RDBcE/original-research--wtf-just-happ/
How does a judge say “you can’t take out a bank loan”?
They have that power??! This is wild.
NY Executive Law 62 regulates business in the sate. It has pretty broad powers.
So he can take out a bank loan but not from a NY bank
https://youtu.be/_85VrWHQ-fo?si=X8L_6w4ieUx5nPiX
They want to prevent him having campaign money
If each of the 80 million that voted for him (at least) gave $7 we could get this done in 5 minutes … give send go sounds good to me! (80,000,000 x 7 = 560,000,000 lol)
That's 500 million dollars correct?
🤦♂️
If so, that would mean that 500 thousand million is more than 1 thousand million; correct?
The internet says 500 thousand million equals 5 billion.
I should have had my morning Espresso before I typed.
Mea Culpa.
And if he doesn't what happens?
its a bond
Ridiculous.
So... if I can follow their nonsense, there must be some obscure rule on the books about finances and running a campaign.
It'll be something like if a candidates money is tied up in a legal proceeding, ie bond, the candidate can not run for office until the matter is settled.
That's where this is going. Bet
Oviously this is wrong. Because once paid (and spent), then appealed and overturned, how you gonna claw back?
It's like being held in escrow.
If he is going to appeal the E Jean Carroll case. She will not get the money. It will be held pending appeal.
But to prevent her executing the judgement, you need to STAY the judgement. Stay is legalese for pause.
But to prevent anyone who loses from appealing and just delaying payment with no case, they make you put up the money.
There are appeal bond companies, just like there bail bond companies.
Without the stay, she could put a lien on his assets.
You pay a bond
It's kept like escrow funds.
It prevents the sort of issue you mention
Then dont appeal it. Just keep filing inperperuity every time they reject it. Don't pay during g that time. Have AI write all your appeals changing one word each time. Drag it out forever. Most of these asshats will be dead in a year or two.
Energon doesn't care if he's overturned on the remaining 20% of his case that hasn't already been overturned and has yet to be appealed (last Friday's $355 MM verdict). Don Jr and Eric were fined and disallowed from running the NY businesses even as they did when DJT served as President.
It will be overturned.
In the meantime Trump and his campaign are deprived of the ability to self fund his campaign for President as he deals wth all the Jack Smith and Fani Willis lawfare that $85MM award to that crazy sex-crazed bitch in addition to this $355MM fine.
There is no reason the USSC couldn't step over this State-level nonsense and rule against all of this with an appeal that steps over all of this on the basis of election interference impacting upon the 14th Amendment rights of every US citizen to select their leadership on an even playing field and in the context of Trump's right to to be able to have a fair trial with witnesses in his defence that has been repeatedly denied
X22 said he has to pay a certain amount and it is held until after the appeal.
I forget the amount but it is only a portion.
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The Cabal's arm inside the Justice Department is attempting to indict President Trump over process crimes that are easily and legally negotiated to mutual legality. He covers his tracks. Their crimes are coming out and they are in full PANIC mode. POTUS is fully protected.” MJ12
X22 Dave said that Trump put up a 5 million bond held in an account until this is appealed. Nobody bets any money until all appeals are finished