Most of have expected this. Many folks daren't even think about this. Trump hints that there is a way to abolishing the income taxes!
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Hope his plans include removing property taxes as well, I know its at the state level.
Once we get back alloidal titles, property taxes won't apply.
I think you meant "allodial" which means "free from the tenurial rights of a feudal overlord." Not a common word, I would've misspelled it too, and looking it up pointed me to this.
Tenurial, in turn, is derived from tenure, which means "the act, right, manner, or term of holding something (such as a landed property, a position, or an office)."
In other words, making it so we the people, not the State, own our land.
It astounds me how many people will fight you about trying to own your land and labor outright.
The slave brainwashing is strong.
“But who would build the roads?”
“Are you so retarded that you don’t know where the taxes for those roads are even collected?”
(Yes.)
It's a massive, ingenious slave system they created.
What makes the best slave?
One that does not know that it is a slave.
Yeah I get that but, “I don’t want you to have to pay $45,000 a year in taxes.”
“But that scares me!!! You’re just insane! That’s it! You’re a crazy man who thinks taxes are bad! We won’t be able to drive! Our enemies will all kill us! We’ll get sick from being poisoned.”
“That’s all happening right now, because of your taxes, you retard.”
“YOU’RE CRAZY!!! I’m going over here to sit with all my normal tax paying friends!”
I don’t understand the mindset of the victims.
This infuriates me TO NO END. I worked my ass off for 35+ years (alongside my wife) and we JUST paid off our home 2 years ago. And still, they ass-rape more and more each year with property taxes. This must stop.
It's truly amazing.
My current rural property tax breakdown (and the total bill equals per month about the same amount our [very conservative] mortgage was, up till about 17 years ago):
Schools 40%
State 21%
Fire dist 20%
County 8%
County roads 7%
Paramedic 3%
Library 2%
Other state 1%
These are all permastate budgets/workers/managers. The only time they come into our rural communities is to harass us for whatever they can get away with.
The "county roads" item isn't building roads...it's running the frost and snow trucks, when we need that...maybe. Probably also running those hideous machines that turn our lovely green roadsides into explosions of destroyed vegetation up to 15 or more feet from the ground.
This is nothing other than a scheme to use constantly inflated property valuations to redistribute increasing amounts of homeowners' income to those who produce NOTHING...but more opportunities for redistribution. It sustains an enormous cadre of government employees who exist for no other reason than to punish the productive and deliver votes to the permastate.
Then there's all the other government taxes we pay, as you note. Sales tax here is 12% or more depending where you shop (total of state, county, city, plus special assessments for whatever they add). Gas tax. Telcoms tax. Utilities taxes. And on. And on.
All on top of federal income tax. And state income tax, where those exist.
We work for THEM, and they are not in the least beholden to us to deliver ANY services, even where they claim to deliver any.
Allodial land patents. That is a worthy rabbit hole worth researching. Although much harder to do so these days. Pre-internet I spent months and countless hours scouring libraries of different cities and municipalities reading on this process. Probably still the only way to find real sources. Internet searches are bogged down with generic language descriptions and references to law firm or legal advisors which convolutes the legal and factual sources for a citizen to pursue these matters.
“What you need to know about Land Patents” by Ron Gibson: https://greatawakening.win/p/16bPQPHFQW/what-you-need-to-know-about-land/c/
https://landgrantpatent.org/lectures2.html
Original 1878 Trust Law guidebook used by Rockefellers after 1871-1873 switch to US Corp. TDLR: Elites created a common law legal system “carve out” for their exclusive use outside of the corporate law system (in all states) to remove their assets from STATE CORP jurisdiction: https://greatawakening.win/p/17r9pF0937/how-trust-law-structures-underpi/c/
Note that archive is down, but you can get titles and authors and look for alternate sources.
thanks for adding a word to my vocabulary. Didn't know that word existed. I looked up the definition, I like it very much. :)
Just a quick note that I spelt it wrong. Its Allodial not Alloidal.
Also, you should listen to latest Jack Kruse interview with Danny Jones. He mentions that the Biritish Monarchy lost Allodial title during WW1 when Russian Czar and his whole family was eliminated. It seems the reason for WW2 was because they vainly thought they will be able to get it back. I think there is a lot to dig here.
I am so sad that I ended up having to collapse and pay taxes this year like a good little slave.
You can do that now with your property. Get it back to the original land patent and tell your assessors office to pound bricks. You can also opt out of paying income tax if you want. Everyone here needs to go check out Brandon Joe Williams on YouTube. Here’s another crazy truth, since 1933 when they made gold and silver illegal to use for payment the US treasury is reasonable for paying our bills not us. We just have to understand how to do it.
I have watched many folks talk about these things, with many, often contradictory, views. I am convinced that the only way to be able to even think about doing these things is if you can fully understand the legal system, constitution etc inside and out. For most people, thats still far far away.
Perhaps, but doing nothing isn’t gonna free us either. Look up Brandon Joe Williams on YouTube. He explains it pretty good.
https://archive.is/2024.10.21-105319/https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/north-dakota-voters-could-end-property-taxes-and-pour-gas-on-the-spark-of-a-growing-tax-revolt-f32ae8db
I fight my property taxes to drop them every year. This is like 3rd year I've protested and won.
All my other neighbors bend over and take it lol. Too lazy but will pay that extra 1000 bucks they don't understand it compounds every year.
How do you fight it, fren? I stopped paying from last year Dec. They marked my property as default and started adding penalties every month. Btw, I am in commiefornia, so you can imagine very high taxes here, as of now I "owe" 19k.
I have documentation on all the things wrong with my house that needs to be fixed if I were to sell. So value of my property overvalued compared to houses that sold near me and have renovations.
I got contractors to give me estimates, photos and a estimate to fix everything. And every year I try to fix one thing or so if possible. But the price of your property will take a hit.
However you get lower insurance and lower taxes. I don't care cause I ain't moving anytime soon. Even if I did I'd still need to fix stuff. It's worth it to fight it.
The local tax accessor will cave since they don't want to deal with hearings, etc. Last time I did a phone call hearing and that was it.
Find people that had success and do the same. That's what I did
We do as well..
A lot of my neighbors retirees don't cause they get tax incentives anyways but the rest of us younger folks should be fighting tooth and nail.
Anything that's gonna cause my taxes to go up I'm voting against too on this next ballot. They just keep the money anyways.
We protest every year and are try to convince our friends to protest also and some are finally starting!
Ya it used to be like 70 percent protested. Now I don't even think like 10 percent.
New home buyers way to complacient.
Don't know we can do to wake them up!
I told my neighbors. They just complain stuffs too expensive and do nothing. Oh well
Property taxes are proof that you never own your property, only lease it. My fear is if Trump lowers or eliminates income tax, the states will raise their taxes. They'll see the citizens as having more money and will promptly want more. Remember, the greedy bastards in DC are not unlike the greedy bastards in the state capitals. Ditto in the city and county governments. They are all thieves.
I can't wait to see what Elon proposes in terms of cutting waste at the federal level. If Trump doesn't make Kash Patel AG, he should put him in charge of ferreting out fraud in the federal government. The military vendors are making bank but you know there are lots of doctors charging Medicare and Medicaid for services not rendered. Eliminating the kickbacks, gifts to family members, lobbyist cash, on and on.
Property is how states financed. Tariffs and trade for federal. Consumer taxes for local. Basically, whom ever had the most money paid the most. Everyone, including government had an incentive for the U.S. to be prosperous. No green new deal in the 1800's
Generalization not withstanding.
Just got my property tax statement, we pay 3 taxes, state, county & school. On our property tax it says… the state & county taxes this year are only $36 more than what we have to pay for the school tax. School tax this year for us is over $500. I’d like to know what they are doing with that money, because we still have to pay an fee just to register our kids in public schools, then all the teachers either send home a list of things you need to “donate” or a class fee. That’s from elementary to high schools. Our kids are grown now, but that’s how it is here, heck I bet parents are paying more now then we did.
Do people who rent apartments have to pay these taxes or the complex’s?
Tell me GDZeus, how would you as an owner of a rental complex come up with the actual rental price? What owner costs, employee and maintenance fees would you divvy up between the renters? What do the property owners actually pay for?
Cut the size of the federal government by at east 80% and most government spending. A reasonable national sales tax would be a lot fairer than the system we have. Tax the purchase of luxury items but not essentials like food and medicine. Eliminating income taxes is very doable.
I would think if we eliminated all unconstitutional agencies (Like CIA, IRS, BLM, ATF) and ended aid to dependent dictators, we'd not have far to go.
Get rid of a million federal employees and associated payroll and there is no need to gather that much in taxes. Government has become a jobs program.
edit: 2.9 million
Yes! When I discuss this with people you wouldn't believe how many of them say "well federal workers pay taxes too 🤪".
KEK, BLM...
Bureau of Land Managment
Oh, I'm regarded...
How do you see that being done?
It can't be done. We have too many foreigners that want to harm us. Who hate us. It allows the deep state to claim necessity while simultaneously destroying us.
A catch 22 that can only be solved with rope.
National sales tax is a HORRIBLE idea.
But cutting the federal government spending by 80% (better yet, 90%) is the REAL solution -- and the ONLY real solution.
Problem is, there are A LOT of parasites that will bite you if you try to do it.
All those unemployed gubment workers can take the jobs the freshly deported illegals have been doing. Or they can pick up garbage, either way.
I strongly believe that is part of the plan. A combination of tariffs, oil lease revenue and large government spending reductions will allow the government to incrementally get rid of the income tax. The top 5% may still have to pay it, but everyone else will not. Add government minting of Bitcoin and you will see a surplus. I expect the Trump administration to build several small nuclear plants to just mine Bitcoin.
Oil lease revenue is the key…Kevin O’Leary was speaking about this and said from some reserve that we haven’t even tapped into in Alaska would easily pay off the national debt as long as the govt wrote the contract that way and didn’t get greedy
All good points with exception to the false narrative of pay off the national debt. It's a very important illusion that has been created to keep the citizens confused to what that really is. The national debt can't be paid off because it is simply the payment owed by the american people via government relinquishment of congressional power to regulate our own money, to a conglomerate organization (federal reserve) interest payment.
Interest paid on the amount of loaned fiat money, US dollars in circulation. To the citizens. National debt also refers to other economic sources but that is the main source of the "debt". This is payed off only by a new currency, change to structure of power back to origins and dissolve the federal reserve as the lender of fiat currency, aka IOUs on behalf of government to the people.
My apologies and thank you for clarifying that up fren
My pleasure and its such an important point that I hope everyone can just spread the truth there. When average Americans realize that. It Will be,, what.. .....WHAT! I've been told the national debt all these years, blah blah blah. Well can imagine first time reactors.
No need to apologize, thanks for reading and being open to ideas.
Am I the only person unable to make sense of this
A safe blockchain requires enough power so that no other entity can reproduce what you've done. It solves the Byzantine General's problem so you no longer have to have trust in anyone that the transaction is real.
But it only works if the difficulty level is high enough that a determined competitor can't split the chain at a lower block, reproduce everything you've done with changes, and outrace you to build an even longer chain. In Proof of Work blockchain systems, the chain showing the most work is always true.
By dedicating enough energy, the Bitcoin blockchain becomes immutable, because no other country/group will have the energy to wipe the history of what has already been written.
It comes down to who you trust more. A banker, or the math that underpins the blockchain? It may take less energy to trust a banker, but I'll trust math any day of the week.
No matter what you think of currency and the economy, Bitcoin is needed because there simply is no other mechanism available to man that carries this level of certainty. If we give up on it, and don't build a few nuclear reactors to keep up the difficulty level, we're back to trusting in our overlords again.
I keep asking the question that marks me of not understanding block chain. What happens when there is no power?
It evidently takes quite a bit of electrical power to run the computers if you want to mine Bitcoin on an industrial scale. Basically you are verifying a transaction between two entities for the Bitcoin people and you get paid in Bitcoin.
One characteristic of money is that real money is a byproduct of energy expended as in physical mining of metals. Bitcoin has almost all the same characteristics as gold and silver. I believe more in metals than electrons but if it's made a medium of exchange and limited in its numbers. Any value increas can expand its availability through fractionalization rather than making more of it controlling inflation. It can be naturally contracted the same way. In fact I'm of the opinion MAGA will be a fraud without the death of the fed.
“But Bitcoin’s not even real!”
“Did you know that the entire valuation of gold and silver is subjective? How real is subjective opinion?”
I think it can be done quickly, in a single term once the private federal reserve is collapsed and all their fiat sidelined and unusable for exchange. Break them to ruins. They've robbed us for 250 years.
I think you will be surprised at how fast stuff happens. 4 years is really a short time in government terms and Trump wants everything done extremely quickly. I noticed quite some time ago it looked like a lot of things were intentionally set up to be fixed very quickly.
BB is pretty based... even for a former libtard. lol.
kek
hey, its the formers who feel to the bone just how hoodwinked they were.
Ex-leftist here. I can't speak for other ex-leftists, but for me, you're absolutely right.
The grace of God is all the more keenly felt by a lost sheep who found its way home.
I'm a former recovering libtard too, but I left (with extreme prejudice) in the mid-90s... lol. Then after 911 I was expected to like GW. What a shit show. That's when I stopped watching the tv.
amazing how this simple step is so liberating.
I think TV was originally intended by God to be a great blessing, but it was, like so many other wonderful modern developments, infiltrated and abused to become a curse.
As always, its not the technology itself, but HOW we use it that counts.
Don’t forget us former libtard sympathizers!
Never went actual libtard, just far enough to get burned. (wouldn’t ever call any of them that to their face, because it’s counterproductive to producing righteousness, though it’s true)
I grew up in a family that while not fully tard, was generally left leaning. When I adopted faith as the center of my life and dedicated myself to God and humanity at the ripe old age of 18, I became the black sheep of the family.
The capacity to see the value in where most left-leaners are coming from is important. But in the advanced era we live in, evil has infiltrated almost every area and so the libtard hoards were born. Alas.
If I recall, the only way a Constitutional amendment (such as the 16th, which created income taxes) can be repealed is with...another Constitutional amendment.
That's how we ended Prohibition. The 21st fully repealed the 18th.
Which means you'd need 3/4 of states, or 38 of 50, to agree to this.
That's one extremely thorough swamp-draining to get the state legislatures cleaned free of puppet pedos.
Of course, there is nothing in the 16th amendment that says that income tax must be collected, only that Congress "shall have power" to levy income taxes.
All you'd need to do is either repeal the income tax law itself, or render the IRS effectively inoperable, to get a similar, although temporary, effect.
Except the 16th was never truly legally ratified. It's a damn sham and a scam.
I was actually looking at that, apparently the IRS in it's infinite wisdom DEBOOONKED that and will charge you $5000 if you use that as a reason for not filing/"frivolously filed".
Don't question why the agency in charge of executing the 16th guards the 16th amendment so jealously, it makes total sense...
Just for fun, ask the IRS what law states you must file a tax return.
(Hint: There isn't one.)
It's a house of cards as high as the WTC, and I hope one day it comes crashing down harder.
IRS was neutralized June 27-July 1 2024 by SCOTUS:
27JUN: Tax courts (Article II, Exec) unconstitutional, IRS must use Article III courts, must show standing, IRS cannot: No actual rather than theoretical damages to IRS/USG for you not paying taxes (they just print $)
28JUN: All IRS rules and regulations are NOT laws and automatically null and void. IRS “penalties” for not following rules cannot be lawfully levied (28JUN) and cannot be collected via Article II (IRS) tax courts (27JUN); Chevron rollback.
01JUL: IRS employees have no immunity from “unofficial acts”. Attempted enforcement of NON-LAWS (i.e. rules and regulations) is “unofficial”. Also fraud and extortion by IRS now “unofficial”. Individual liability for all IRS and Executive Branch employees (including Federal Reserve) AND gov’t contractors. Previous “extended immunity” gov’t to private parties (contractors) also now stripped for “unofficial acts”. Nearly all actions (~95%) are non-LAW-based and unofficial after Chevron rollback.
BOTTOM LINE: Sue any Federal employee doing anything, or at least get a WRIT OF PROHIBITION directly from Article III Circuit Court for $505. Then get WRIT OF MANDAMUS plus arrest warrant (contempt for violation of WRIT) for individuals, especially IRS employees. Let the ‘GAMES’ begin.
That door is definitely open. I don't pay taxes at all because of my disabled veteran status. In florida I don't pay property tax either. I want that extended to everyone, not just veterans.
Wow! Thank you for that. You made my day.
Just because the government can collect income taxes, it doesn’t mean that it has to. When it gets to zero or near zero income taxes collected, it will be easier to repeal the 16th.
With his advocating abolishing this tax and that tax, he is edging toward a....Constitutional Republic, with almost no government at all, and little need for taxes. I believe he is proposing it gradually so he doesn't flip out the normies.
New republic leads to the New Kingdom
Christian normies might not flip out but faithless ones will
Good point.
As soon as he did NO TAX ON TIPS and then NO TAX ON OVERTIME, I said "He's slowly building up to NO TAX ON INCOME." Then he did NO TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS and I knew it was only a matter of time.
The thing most people are not focused on is the replacement SALES TAX RATE. It doesn't need to be and can't be 15%, 20%, 27% or anything stupid like that. Something like 1-5% is all the fedgov should need, or it's gottentoo damn big and needs re-shrinking.
You do NOT want a national sales tax.
That would be the WORST idea.
You would first need a constitutional amendment to allow it, and then it would be ADDED TO all the other taxes, and NOT REPLACE them.
Even if we had a few years where it would replace, other politicians would just add it back later.
Switching to tariffs would work. But forget the national sales tax.
You are DREAMING.
Government doesn't work like that. In 1913, the income tax was 1% to 6% max.
How did that work out? Went to 90+% for decades.
First of all, dreaming is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing.
Why can't we return to a time when there was no income tax? We can, if enough Americans accept that it can be real and then demand it.
Second, the assertion that the creation of the national sales tax could not occur simultaneously with the permanent repeal of the income tax, in one or two simultaneous amendments, is unprovable.
Also the mere statement that politicians would add the federal income tax later doesn't make it necessarily factual. We can prevent it by using language similar to "Congress shall pass no law creating a federal income tax."
Think in terms of possibility. Dare to dream, patriot.
Agreed on the sales tax rate. With the inflated prices it should not be more than 5 percent. The fed doesn't deserve more than the tithe God established.
10% would be WAAAYYYY too much.
Not to communists.
To them, 10% is WAAAYYYY too little.
Yes. And they are the ones who are wrong about this.
In Pugetopolis, paying 10-15% combined state, county, city, and other local sales tax is common.
Your pay is labor capital not income. Labor capital is untaxable via 4th/5th Amendments as “individual property”. IRS intentionally misclassifies (fraud) via employer (compelled fraud). Correct your W-2 with IRS Form 4852 (Box 1 is correctly $0) and file 1040-X to get 100% of payroll tax back: Template here: https://greatawakening.win/p/16aA4T1R4C/success-constitutional-action-ag/c/
Get your request in to IRS as soon as possible to get in the queue. They are slow-walking refund checks 12-18 months and may have liquidity issues.
Additional related links: https://greatawakening.win/p/1995LofUBM/repost1-greatest-digslinks-compi/
Correct. Pay given for labor is not "income"; you traded a piece of your life and physical body for that money. It was an even exchange; you didn't "make" any money. You had to trade something away for it. Yet they stole (confiscated) money from you.
In this way the American people are deliberately forced to drown perpetually in debt and to live a life of lack.
Capital gains are different. You invest some sweat equity, true; but then you can do nothing; yet you can make much more money than you had invested. This is wealth creation.
Capital gains are just an exchange, as well.
You buy a house and sell it at a higher price due to the inflation caused by the devaluation of the US dollar by the Federal Reserve money printing.
The house is the same. No wealth creation.
You nailed it. Artificial "price increase" via fiat printing creates the impetus for a "higher assessement" [property taxes and other fake "capital gains" taxes] in order to eventually take all your actual accumulated wealth/cash via continually higher and higher taxes with no actual increase in the actual value or utility of the underlying asset. This is why "money lenders" have been deported and banned from 171 countries in the last 1000 years for usury, theft, and oppression. I won't say the name because many are pretending and don't really worship God.
Your example of a house appreciating due to inflation and dollar devaluation is so completely different from, say, that of public companies increasing in value for stockholders because of making and selling products that improve people's lives as to constitute a different topic.
Still we agree that "the house is the same" is a true statement. ;)
Step 1: separate properly “labor capital” from actual income. Get all payroll taxes back.
Step 2: challenge jurisdiction of IRS “income collection” within sovereign state. They have none, AND it is specifically prohibited by “no direct taxation” clause of Constitution. IRS as representative of Fed gov’t can collect taxes only from sovereign states directly, except excise tax for occupations on excise tax list and from work performed on Federal Lands. (Most occupations not on list)
Step 3: opt out of all Federal programs including IRAs, 401ks, and Social Security (after full refund requested & collected). Participation in program is voluntary consent to taxation, i.e. “Terms of Service” include you agreeing to pay taxes, even if illegal and Unconstitutional.
Haha yeah, Anons already knew.
That was a great question! And, it was followed up with a great answer!
There was no Federal Income Tax prior to 1913, so apparently the country can run without stealing from all Americans. Of course there was no socialism in 1913 so there wasn't the great welfare class that demand money from Daddy the Gubment.
No income tax, no property tax, and the reinstatement of the homestead act. A roof over ones head should not be a luxury but a God given right. I cannot wait til Chinese and Muslim land grabbers lose it all and it goes back to rhe American peope.
How do you see that happening?
Lets not forget about (((Usury))) and the (((federal reserve)))
Amen! END THE FED!
u/#Happening
Ron Paul has been saying this for as long as I can remember! https://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_Paul_Tax_Reform.htm
https://www.cato.org/blog/defending-ron-pauls-tax-plan
I hope he gets secretary of the Treasury
So Do I. Although Rand Paul or Thomas Massie wouldn't be bad for this role, either.
Of course there is a way. That's how our Republic was founded. Taxes were paid by people who worked for government, and were also voluntary for anyone else. Tariffs on foreign trade made up the majority of the revenue to run the federal government. If government were operating within the strict limits of the Constitution, there would be minimal cost to run it. There is no need to tax Americans at all.
I expect Trump to abolish income tax, property tax, the Fed, IRS, foreign aid (huge), Dept of Education, 70 to 80% of government employees, etc. And I expect to see tens of thousands perp walked, thousands of human traffickers executed, international bankers executed, thousands of local bankers locked up for money laundering, thousands of serious drug pushers/cartel criminals being executed. Missiles raining down on cartel headquarters and supply chains. Terrorists wiped off the map. Millions of illegal aliens deported. Hundreds of Hollywood and music stars executed for child rape/child sacrifice and human sex trafficking. Lots of teachers being facing justice for their bullshit. FEMA people being marched into their own death camps. I expect to see Congress virtually empty while new elections take place. I expect to see county commissioners, mayors, governors and their staff being arrested. I expect to see thousands of homes and businesses involved in corruption being raided by the LE and even the NG.
Participants in war crimes and mass casualty events like the Paradise fire, Maui fire, train derailments, and many hurricanes over the years from Katrina (New Orleans) to Helene should face capital punishment for mass murder.
Ditto on all the drug companies and DOD personnel engaged in the COVID genocide. That includes "health inspectors" who shut down churches and businesses. Anyone who vaccinated anyone should face justice for their actions. Ignorance is no excuse for murder. Rioters should face justice and be forced to make amends by personally rebuilding what they destroyed.
Rothchilds and Rockefeller's will be stripped of their holdings and the generational wealth returned to We the People (from whom it was stolen) — that's trillions of dollars. Criminals don't get to keep the jewels they stole.
The true extent of D.U.M.B.s need to be exposed, the assassinations of JFK, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, John Lennon and hundreds of VIPs like Marilyn Monroe. The 9/11 truth must come out.
What the F is really going on at Area 51, etc. must be exposed and people face justice. Ditto with biological labs worldwide.
The real extend of child trafficking and child sex trafficking must be exposed and all those (millions?) of perps must be outed and they must face full justice for their actions. Including the damn Pope. The Vatican must be turned inside out.
Why do so many Frens expect all this? Because it's the only way to restore the country and restore the world. It's the only way to wake up the remaining billions of sleepers. And because Frogs are optimists.
When we say "restore" what do we mean? We mean restoring people's trust and belief in God. Bringing people to justice isn't necessary because we hate them for what they've done. It must be done because we love the victims, the innocent, our children, each other and out future generations. We must bring Justice in the name of Love. Bring it with Forgiveness in your heart. It is possible to forgive even as we pull the trigger to execute mass murders. Injustice breeds loss of faith in God. So bring Justice to restore faith. Every person who pays for their crimes can help restore the faith in God across the world.
And soon we may proclaim that once again, In God We Trust.
That seems like an impractical dream. You'd have to retain some type of system to generate income otherwise how could you have a standing military? THAT you need! Maybe I am paranoid, but I really don't trust other countries and am willing to pay for certain things. Namely, a military first and foremost.
I would still want public roads maintained. I would want programs for the disabled. And benefits for injured veterans. And a reasonable educational program for children (not the bloated, money sucking, indoctrinating, failure they have now).
I want police. I want firemen. I want public parks maintained. I want streets to light up when it gets dark. I want clean water. I want my garbage picked up and the streets ploughed when it snows. I am sure there are other things I am not thinking of at the moment.
So maybe I don't want all taxes abolished? Maybe just set them at a reasonable level and not use them to line the pockets of crooked politicians?? Am I making sense?
Of course, and there is nothing that stops from taxing commerce. Tariffs. Sales taxes. Import and excise duties etc.
Once we get rid of expenses like tax to Fed, welfare, foreign aid, black ops, all kinds of liberal funding, most regulatory agencies etc, you will be cutting down spending by 90%.
Economy must be run with real production of value.
Government must spend on things of real value for people.
When we talk about abolishing income taxes, its the taxes on direct income. Money taken away from you purely because you worked hard and earned more than someone who did not.
Income tax = Theft of labour = Slavery.
Frankly, no.
At a point after no income tax Social Security could be cut and revamped to take care of the most indigent reducing that cost too.
Thank God Trump is too smart to campaign on this idea
Id be happy to sacrifice my monthly SS of theyed just return the money i paid in with 7 percent interest compounded over 43 years. Everyone who has ever paid in ought to be paid back out at that rate. It's doable.
You never "paid in" to anything.
It is a scam, and always was.
They collect SS money and it goes into the same pile as other tax money.
Nothing is set aside for you or anyone else. There is no "lock box."
SCOTUS ruled back in 1939 that SS is a welfare program, not a retirement fund.
In fact, while FDR was promoting it as a retirement program to the public, his attorneys were arguing in the courts that it was a welfare program, because they knew that the feds have no constitutional authority to impose a retirement program in the States.
Let Elon Musk weed out the excess "employees" for a start.
Bearing in mind that in addition to being pork barrel programs to ensure a voting bloc........
In many places government jobs are the employment of last resort of economies burned over by banksters and vampire squid "private sector" players (most of whom couldn't exist without the welfare THEY get, like "food programs" that deliver trillions to Big Ag for goyslop that makes people unhealthy, but they then go to Pharma).
Taxes are to pay off debt to the fed. We o lying pay interest so it stands to reason if we stop borrowing fiat money at interest then we don't have any debt to pay back. No debt means we won't need taxes. I stead of running the government borrowed money, it will run on tarrifs through trade. The funds the feds will have to spend will be dependent on good trade policy and peace with those whom we trade. Imagine of ypu go to war and you lose the tarrifs of some major trade partner, the federal govt would suffer huge contraction in money to operate. Its The way it was meant to function.
Take a look at the federal government's budget, both revenues and expenses.
Your claim is just not true.
We should end the Fed, for sure.
But that is not the entire solution.
Still going to gift our income tax accountant a bottle of wine. He spent extra hours revisiting our docs and being on the phone with the vendor to dig out a glitch that was resulting in us supposedly owing the Feds hundreds of dollars. After the fix, we're getting refunded $5k.
I actually watched and recorded this yesterday morning on Fox & Friends and was thrilled to hear POTUS say this out loud!
Of course everyone and their dog would want to get into America if they got rid of income and/or property taxes. But nothing will change that unless we fully collapse into a Communist sewer. Though for citizens, a tax system like it once was provides an even a clearer reason for secure borders.
Dig for "Trump Admin v2"
If Trump goes after all the countries that owe the US money and all the people who profited from corruption and fraud using US money (Soros and the like), he can pay down the entire deficit. And have his own Mt. Rushmore as a result.
u/#Happening
The owners of the Federal Reserve have TRILLIONS stashed away. Wealth they took from use through inflation and fiat money. They did nothing for it except to rig the system for themselves. Start there.
Trump frees the slaves circa 2025
I want a candidate that will run on, and keep their promise on repealing that crippled communist FDR’s social security tax.
Sounds fantastic. But then there's the matter of still having to get it by Congress first.
I'm starting to become concerned about all these incredible things that President Trump is promising (or implying, at least). It's not that I disagree with them, I just don't see any legal way of getting it done.
People act like they've forgotten how the government is run and that we aren't electing a dictator, no matter what the liberals are saying.
Even if we flipped the House red, and kept the Senate, there are still a load of RINOs waiting to sabotage anything President Trump tries to do.
What's going to happen when he gets back in office and isn't able to fulfill those promises? Why is he behaving like a stereotypical politician, making promises he knows (or should know) he won't be able to keep?
And before people start throwing "shill!!" and "glowie" and "doomer" around, rest assured that I'm not doubting who I'll be voting for next month.
I just think we need to be realistic about this stuff and not get carried away fantasizing about how great it's going to be to not pay taxes.
I'm also concerned with how many people here act like they have no idea how legislation is passed, and seem to think President Trump has a pretty, sparkling magic wand that he can just wave around and :poof: no more taxes!
I agree.
Income tax is 94% of federal revenue.
Therefore, the only way to get it to 0% is to reduce federal government spending by 90%.
That SHOULD be done. Most of what they do is UNCONSTITUTIONAL now.
But getting it actually done is another discussion.
The deep state puppet politicians will fight against it, the deep state puppet media talking heads will fight against it, and a lot of the sheeple will baaaa against it, as well.
Its not just about Congress. It will require repeal of 16th amendment which requires another constitutional amendment (unless its proven that the republic was stolen by that time and all subsequent amendments were illegal).
The whole point of Great Awakening is that people wake up to all lies not just some lies. At that point, when people realise how badly they have been lied to and exploited and made into slaves for so long, anything is possible. Its a new world.
I think they will have a way to show any stolen election for anyone. The ground game is tremendous on our side this time. Laura Trump said (the other day), "we have eyes on everything" If they can't cheat, maybe we finally get that red wave up and down the ticket.
That suggests that President Trump's team didn't have their eyes on everything in the 2018 midterm, the 2020 election, and the 2022 midterm. Were they just incompetent?
I would love for that to happen. But I haven't seen anything to suggest that will happen, especially nationwide.
Not only that, but I'm not seeing any noticeable change in people's politics where I live, and amongst my friends and family. None. I wish I were, but I'm not.
And I'm not seeing it here, either. Every once in a while, someone will post something about how a friend or family member of theirs has seen the light. And that's a great thing. But it's not quite the huge red wave that will be needed to make a difference.
I'm also noticing that there is only a fraction of the activity here than there was a couple of years ago. While obviously not all Trump supporters are supporters of Q, you would think that there would be enough of an overlap that we would see newcomers here frequently, wanting to learn more about it. Especially since Trump is regularly communicating about Q during his rallies and on his social accounts, in various ways.
And even if there is a red wave and we hit the trifecta (House, Senate, and Presidency), that doesn't do anything about the RINOs already in office who aren't up for re-election, and doesn't mean that any new ones being elected won't be RINOs themselves.
I recall someone making the point that the White Hats needed six years of federal elections, a full senate cycle, to trap all the Congress critters in the vote fraud. Thus all, or at least many/most, have benefitted from fraud at some point to get elected therefore they can get removed as they aren't legitimate.
And how do you see that happening? Them being removed because they aren't legitimate?
Good question. Perhaps this is part of the military is the only way. They are arrested and removed by force.
What makes you think they didn't have eyes on these things? Maybe this is the way it had to be. In the reporting I see the ground games is what they have really beefed up. I think there are so many groups everywhere active in working toward the win.
I'm not saying that they don't have eyes on this election. I'm pointing out that they obviously had eyes on their other elections, and yet there was still rampant cheating.
So, having eyes on it isn't a guarantee there won't be cheating this time around as well.
And yes, I'm familiar with the "It Had To Be This Way" line. I'm wondering if that's what people will be saying 6 or so months from now if 2020 happens all over again.
What groups are you talking about that you believe will make a difference this time around?
Do you think Republicans just didn't have their people working the polls in 2020? Or 2018? Or 2022?
Either the Military is in the middle of a massive sting operation or they are not. If we are already in what has been called a "soft martial law", then NOTHING THAT IS DONE BY THE CIVIL GOVERNMENT IS VALID. THIS IS AS Q HAS SAID OR IT IS NOT. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A MILITARY STING OPERATION OR WE ARE NOT. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT CAN NOT EVEN HAVE AN ELECTION SUCH AS THIS ONE COMING UP. THE MILITARY WOULD HAVE TO BE THE ONE WHO HOLDS AN ELECTION. we need to chill and stop thinking we are all smart enough to figure this all out.......we aren't. Some people on this board need to get a grip and go back and reread all of the Q posts.
Do you think we won't be having an election or that the military will be performing a fake election, or...?
How could the USA government even have an election if we are in a state of DEVOLUTION. I guess I am expecting exposure BEFORE NOV 5. It seems it would be too messy any other way.......and also not LEGAL.