It all started with a staged intervention last weekend at a cookout we were having at the house for family members. The wife, daughter and a group of in-laws cornered me and told me I was being selfish - I was jeopardizing their safety. The nagging and "attitude" had been going on for months prior. I once again explained my position but no amount of evidence or logic offered up was going to change any minds. My entire immediate and extended family has bought the narrative and drank the Kool-Aid utterly and completely. There's no convincing anyone otherwise. Today, the wife informs me that she wants me to move out of the house that I worked my ass off for decades to provide because I don't care enough about her to take the vax. It's a sad day but I'm not wavering. I'm packing my shit and seeking alternate living arrangements. I did inform every one of them not to call me when their health starts to go south in the near future....which was met with rolled eyes and an ambivalent shrug. They all think I've gone bananas.
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Don't comply.
Never leave the home, if she wants to leave then that is on her.
I agree with this! Utter bullshit
Let me just say this to OP.
Show me a woman who issues the divorce ultimatum, and I will show you a woman who has already been thinking about this for some time, and has an exit plan ready to go (whether formalized in some way or just in her head).
She has already discussed this with her family. She has already discussed this with her friends. She may already have an attorney ready to go or at least has an idea of who she will call.
Women often plan this well in advance. Years, in many cases. 80% of all divorces are initiated by women, whether the man is the "Petitioner" or the "Respondent."
The question OP needs to ask is a simple one, yet also very difficult: "Do I want to be married to this woman anymore? Even if it is possible to reconcile, is it worth it to have this woman dictate terms to me that affects my own health and well-being?"
If the answer is no, then ...
Before anything, understand that some judge somewhere, who doesn't know you and most likely doesn't care, and might even be hostile towards you, will be thinking this: If you moved out of the house because your wife was afraid that you might have a communicable disease, then your action of moving out could be construed as an acknowledgement that she was right. Remember, there is no jury in divorce court. As a man, your rights will be abused in some way. Not 50% of the time, or 90% of the time, but 100% of the time. REALITY CHECK. This is 2021, not 1821.
Step 1) Do not move out of the house. Instead, move down the hall to one of the extra bedrooms and sleep there.
Step 2) Talk to 3 or more divorce attorneys, including at least 1 that specializes in helping men, and 1 that does not. If this is a relatively small town, I would talk to ALL the divorce attorneys, because guess what? They MUST ask you the name of your wife, and if they are already working with her, they would have a conflict of interest in working with you. So, they will turn you away due that conflict. This would be an important bit of information for you to know.
Step 3) If you decide that a legal split is the way to go, make sure you or an attorney checks to see if there is already a divorce proceding filed by your wife, but you haven't been told, yet. If not, file your own.
Step 4) Talk to your kids AFTER. Don't let their emotions get in the way. Also, give them literature on why you are deciding what you are about your health and the vaxx. No matter what "side" they are on or their views of the Covid Plandemic, they should at least have the info available as to WHY you are taking the actions you are. If they are adults, the chips will then fall where they fall.
Step 5) Be careful you did not choose a vindictive woman. Be aware that some women will lie through their teeth about abuse or other imaginary harms, just to get you out of the house or in legal trouble. Do NOT underestimate this possibility, no matter what you think of your wife. She obviously behaves in irrational ways, since she is unwilling to discuss this in a rational way.
Good luck. I don't envy your situation, but there is no doubt that millions of marriages are going through something similar due to the actions of the conspirators in the Covid Plandemic. They need to be on trial ASAP for all the harm they have caused. Doctors need to be sued for medical malpractice. Government employees need to be prosecuted.
"May you live in interesting times" is actually a Chinese curse. Hmm.
I don’t know this pede, but I would bet he is speaking from experience. Good advice
This is one of the most helpful and informed posts I have read on .wins. Thank you MAG768720 for helping out this man, and others, who are in such a difficult situation.
Huh-huh-huh
Still waiting on that "footage" you claim exists...
Exactly my thought about this situation. The vax is just the justification or Casus Belli for her actions. Likely she has been looking for a reasonable plan of attack for some time and this is just the most tangible excuse she could muster. I'm sorry you have to go through this at such a fragile juncture. Surely, the coming events will cause a moment of reflection when the truth of everything is revealed. Until then, you are best served by stalling anything fiscally important and insuring that, for appearance sake, the initiation of divorce is squarely placed with her. Nothing looks worse than someone suing for divorce from a terminal partner.
This
Correct. At least have a basic consultation with a divorce attorney BEFORE you leave the house. Once you move out, and have abandon the family, then that's a big strike against you.
yep, it's a major manipulation move
I agree. It’s your house too. Be kind but firm
I'm so sorry, this has come up in almost every family I know of. Please know those of us who will never ever take this thing are with you fully in spirit. I do believe this is a test of humanity we can't fail, there's a reason why we have been called and won't do it. God bless you.
They can’t take the men amongst us head on so they corrupt our women first.
The faggots.
This is so sad. Taking the jab = suicide.
Would it help to show her this? Videos (short videos) of people seriously hurt:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/v8F2OrQKjVO6/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YcErFhnb66nq/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ix0iYXsp1WWH/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dLI6a2fqdk0l/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/75Z33JXhLHso/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/svdvYTj5DSB8/
Is she afraid of getting sick from you? How could she, if she's been "vaccinated". Was she always this unreasonable? I wonder if she lost her mind from the jab.
This is what I'm hoping for. It would give the left & right something to bond over. Being tricked by our gov on the same issue. What a wake up call that would be.
Remember, they aren't monsters they just gave up thinking long before we did.
It is not matter of belief, It is really question WHY he did it with those "vaccine". Was speeding it up really to lower causualities to sheeps only or not ? We will see. Q wasn't explaining it too much. Question on which all trust in Q lies - for good or for bad.
All we have is Trump repeating that because of him "vaccine" was released faster than normal way and some Q post.
Like question of those recuitment to national guard and those new Bidet cabinet plan about "relocations" camps. As we believe in Q we trust it wouldn't happen to normal patriots,but better military will stand up on proper side or there would be show of the century about people being fucked up...
We look at the facts and think for ourselves so it does not matter what Trump says. If you just do what someone says, without looking at the facts for yourself, you are a fool and deserve what happens I guess. I think maybe this is the lesson? Trusting even Trump without thinking for yourself still makes you a fool? He’s doing what he has to, to save humanity. He used Q to focus our attention and we warned everyone we could...
The simple statement about a handful of people vs the fact that we are fighting an enemy that would gladly kill tens of millions or hundreds of millions of people says that you don't have a grasp of the stakes here. Every life is precious, but you don't abandon millions of people to die to save a few. The people incarcerated are about as safe as they can be. They made a choice about entering the Capitol building. If they are patriots, each would give their lives to save the rest of us. Grow up, they are not without some blame here and rescuing them vs rescuing the entire country is a very narrow-minded view.
Yeah. I think there is a good reason so many liberal women are mentally ill and intolerable bores. It’s the conflict of one one hand what rational thought tells them, like there are two genders, and what the communist propaganda tells them which is there are 380 different genders and if you think otherwise you are a terrible bigot. I also think women are far more influenced by social pressure then men are. Well, real men...
It's how they got Sampson..
Your predicament is a major part of the plan to drive the sane to question their sanity while the mentally weak succomb to the total scrambling of language and thought.
The vaccines and the boosters are the bioweapons. The masks and the lockups are forerunners of complete slavery. As long as we stand our ground together they will not enslave us.
Stay strong. Remain simple, clear and sane. Probably don't hate the weak. They are what they are. But don't join them.
I'm old and I've lived alone for almost a decade now and it's the best time of my life.
Life is simple and quiet and free of strife. In this environment a joyous serenity is free to grow.
I couldn’t agree more and why I’ve decided this is my hill to die on.
If you do end up having to leave, make sure you do not continue paying the mortgage. Let it be repossessed from under her. If your mortgage is paid off, then look into putting it up for sale so she doesn't get to keep it for herself. May have to divorce her in that case.
No offense, but I feel that's horrible advice!
Yes. Horrible advice on repossession. Sell it either way. Don't lose on it.
Unless he's upside down on it.....then by all means let her take that hit.
He could go second mortgage the hell out of it n let her have it.
Very true
Sorry, I disagree. He needs to be responsible about any steps he takes.
Agreed. Whose name is on the lease? She cannot just kick you out.
I had this thought as well. If his name is anywhere on this house, he can stay.
Agree, If he moves out there could be other complications, if things go the way of divorce.
Why don't you tell HER to move out?
Start coughing on her.
Then fart on her.
Either she gets weirdly turned on or you can know that, as a dude, you had the kind of Sniffy JIF it took.
Sounds like she's the one who wants out, why should OP move.
Fuck that. King of the castle, king of the castle.
Yes, now is the time for strength. Stand firm in your beliefs and convictions. Be the strong man, continue to share the truth even though they don’t see it. Denial always comes before the acceptance of the hard truth that their minds can’t process. They will leave first if it reaches that point. Unless they get violent towards you in any way, stand firm, stand true, shine bright. Wake them up. 31 years is a long time, wake them up.
I am so sorry to hear this but I would ask her to leave instead. Let her move in with her like-minded family members.
Really. She's got a whole support network to crash on apparently. Point out that she can never clean the house of your cooties now. Plus this makes no sense. If they are all vaccinated, how can you harm them if the vaccines work?
deep down they know they dont work. Its like crabs in a bucket, if they are going to go down 'for the common good' you should also.
This is a persuasion principle which is very powerful, thinking that it is a common behavior of others so I should do it too.
oh and the people dying from the kill shots are not being reported on. For example a guy was telling me his friend took a brain bleed after the first one and was in hospital. A couple weeks later when I was talking to him he told me she had died and also his 30 odd year old uncle died after a second shot. Apparently the father of the girl tried to call into a popular radio talk show to discuss his daughters death from the kill shot and when he mentioned the vax they cut him off and hung up on him and went on with a rant about conspiracy theories and how safe the vax is.....they basically said that the father was full of shat.
I think this is the way here ask her to leave.
Nope. You never leave, they leave.
Find you balls, unpack your shit and stand your ground
As a woman.... completely agree!
I’m sorry you’re going through this nightmare, but you have every right to stand your ground and stay as she does. Do not back down!!!
For real. What an absolute weakling of a man. But that’s how he got where he is in the first place. Wife should be following his lead, same with his daughter.
When tearing down other people during a rough time, YOU are the one that looks wek and pathetic. At least pretend to act like you have compassion.
Soft compassion is the last thing people need when they are at the tail end of destroying themselves. We have become all together too soft, and it is why we are in this mess to begin with. Your babying dies not help him, he is not a child.
He’s not a child. Are you suggesting that being an asshole is not going to beat him down further?
If you think telling the truth is being an asshole then you are part of the weakening of society.
You paid for the house, and she wants to kick you out of the house YOU paid for
You do not leave your house! You may risk giving up any financial claim to it if it comes to divorce. And I am so sorry that your whole family is pressuring you this way. I have an empty room, no joke! If you are in PA. You are not wrong to stand up for your health.
I love this. We have the best anons, don't we folks!
Just warms the heart.
❤🤍💙
Yes, this is it! The law offices of Cordell & Cordell recommend that men DO NOT leave the house. It's a huge mistake!
Who wants to bet this was discussed before the intervention.
Abandonment, I’m guessing?
Wow! Sounds real familiar! My wife hit me up with that about 3 weeks ago. We've been married 45 years , couldn't believe she said it to me! We had just finished having a heated discussion about the said VIRUS and VAXX. You can probably figure it out, I'm quite opinionated, and told her I will never be VAXXED with the MRNA VAX and would take death first instead of betraying GOD! I firmly believe GOD created each and everyone of us and has designed us with the proper DNA and filled us with LIGHT prior to us arriving here on Earth via the Birth canal! So, I won't budge one bit on my beliefs! She later on apologized for saying the mean vicious words to me! I told her she needs to stop living in fear and stop believing all the fear porn from the news. Now she is getting fed up with the mask BS and is slowly coming around to believing they're filling us full of BS! BTW- I pray every night JESUS CHRIST to fill my wife with Mercy and Protection and to instill in her Discernment about the lies and treachery we're receiving from Biden administration and fake news! He's answering my prayers! HE is LORD!
Glad to hear this fren. I pray you and your wife become one once again.
He also is the one authority your wife can't argue with.
God bless your efforts, “May the Lord, the God of Israel, under whose wings you have come to take refuge, reward you fully for what you have done.” Ruth 2:12 NLT
You sound like you are winning, brother. The mask redpill is a big one. Once she accepts that the mask stuff is pointless and bad for her health, two things happen:
The very first thing I would do is cancel cable tv, possibly even sell or give away the TV. Delete Google Chrome from every computer in the house and install Brave or Duck Duck Go or any other non-tech giant browser. The news is what is getting to these people, propaganda is extremely powerful and can make weak minded people do extraordinary things. Sever the mainstream news and stop the continuing fear porn addiction
YES!
NEVER LEAVE!
It WILL 100% be used against you in future court hearings.
Stay, and she can choose to leave.
OR. Sell the house. Leave her a chunk of change depending on state laws, and move on to a better life.
(I’m married, with kids, and understand the hard spot you’re in, but do not comply. You’re only shooting yourself in the foot)
Have you showed her the CNN video interview with the CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky?
"They continue to work well for Detla, with regard to severe illness and death- they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission"
That means that no one's vaccine status (not yours, not hers, not family, etc) will keep her (or anyone from getting Covid).
By the CDC Director's own admission, your vaccine cannot do anything to protect her from catching Covid. In fact, her own vaccine status cannot protect her from catching it.
And since she will be protected from the severity and death (per the CDC), your status is meaningless.
I would tell her to fuck off anyway, but she should at least know she's retarded.
Also, I WOULD NOT LEAVE HOME. Tell her she should leave if she is that scared.
No amount of reason is going to work on someone who is literally kicking out her husband because he will not get an experimental vaccine.
You're right, but she should at least have to watch a fucking 30 second clip of one of her heroes shutting down her argument in order to get a divorce/separation.
Yeah it's just the mindset we are in today... people are so brainwashed it's crazy. I'm in the same boat with my brother... I mean we are still cool but he got vaxed and just pretty much things I'm a conspiracy nut.
you too? haha my brother was talked out of the kill shot but his crazy wife convinced him I was a conspiracy retard. Well he went and took the shot, got severe chest pains and thinks he had a heart attack. So his crazy wife kept saying it was his nerves and he was not really having cheat pains....now he is starting to say that he is going to prob get another kill shot and is acting like I am full of shit again. Now get this his crazy wife got abdominal (reproductive ?), chest and lung pains after the first one and actually went to get the second one. Friggen idiot.
Utterly an idiot or determined to be right.
Well she puts doctors and people in authority on a pedestal, she has a god complex toward doctors. She likes biden and trudeau, but hates Trump with a passion. She cant say why, but she hates him. Immigrants are better people then locals. I am crazy because everyone is taking the shot and 'covid is very deadly'. Basically she is a libtard. I truly cant stand her and have decided not to speak to her anymore.
Sounds like you should simply get divorced.
Yep, this shit is real. I had a really close friend get the jab she was just 40 and I never talk to her about this stuff, but she was telling me how she thought she was going through menopause and how she thought she was too young.
Also, it is a real thing that when I was in the car with her, I would feel sick like I was getting the flu, but then outside of the car, it instantly went away.... so they do radiate something... it's very very odd.
We need to stop calling it a vaccine and refer to it what it is: a medical device treatment.
It literally isn’t a vaccine by definition at all.
I always refer to it as "experimental gene therapy".
DO
NOT
LEAVE
Stay. She can leave if she's so "uncomfortable"
Hold your ground, do not leave your home. Contact an attorney that fights for the men in these relationships. Keep your actions to yourself.
https://cordellcordell.com/
Wtf!!! Make her move out. If you're going to take a stand then make her leave.
Do not surrender your home. If she is not happy, let her move out.
She is the one with the issue. She should be the one leaving.
FUCK THAT BITCH.
Well the problem u/Gurn_Blanston have today is because he fucked those dishonest bitch during last 31 years. 31 years of marriage and end because of "vaccine" or other shit in TV ordered by "government". u/Gurn_Blanston you have our prayers and compassion.But from me also the question where you had your fucking eyes those 31 years,as you needed almost half of your life to see through it.
PS: our haters from red.dit made this topic the star,and one is saying:
Well I guess no big reason to fear about,it looks this women is more toxic than those spike proteins (what is really hard) and u/Gurn_Blanston still somehow survived, lol ! But well - that would be good reason to rather leave and apply for divorce outside.
Dude, tell her to move her ass out! That's some tyrannical bullshit! The virus has a 99.8% survival! They're more at risk driving. But if reason is gone, you take control and you tell them their ignorance won't coerce you into finding new living conditions. Fuck that! They changed, not you. They move, you stay! All of them are fueling this.
Take control! Trust me.
Yet people condescend towards those who choose to walk the MGTOW path.
They hate that which they envy
Yep, I couldn’t be any happier, I’ll be lying if I said I didn’t want to “settle down” but it’s way too risky these days with the Democrat ran corrupt family court system.
Honestly I don’t believe in traditional marriage to begin with, real love shouldn’t require a signature on a piece of paper nor do I believe men should get on their knees to “propose”, it’s the man basically in a submissive position.
I’m ready to die alone, it is what it is.
I don't really see the point in legal marriage. Marriage is a covenant with a spouse in the eyes of God. The legal one is with the government. It isn't sacred and has no spiritual value. The laws and rules are created to benefit lawyers, not the involved spouses. It's probably the reason for more than half of marriages failing. Those who bind themselves together in a covenant with God have decided to be together and have the spiritual strength to continue working together to persevere through the difficulties.
Thank you, this is exactly what I was trying to get across, with a much better explanation. 100 percent agree, unfortunately there aren’t many women that look at it this way.
There are a lot of good women out there. Sometimes it is hard to find them because we look in the wrong places. Personally, I'm no longer interested. I'm investing my time in my parents and my sister. My sister has been battling cancer for the last two years. My BiL and I have been researching alternate cures. She is near the end of her second series of chemo. There won't be a third round, because the oncologist says that there aren't any other treatment protocols left for her. We will be working with Fenbendazole or ivermectin along with supporting diet and supplements. Perhaps I'll consider dating after this, but i find myself at peace, it will be difficult to introduce chaos again.
People have been making quite a lot of comments about supposed alternative cures for cancer and they seem quite interesting. I haven't had to deal with cancer so I don't know a whole lot about it but the whole idea of chemo and the bit I've heard about it just seems so counter intuitive to me.
This PDF talks a bit about alternative cancer cure theories Parasite Pill and seems quite interesting, you may have already seen it because it does mention Fenbendazole and Ivermectin from memory.
Iodine also seems to come up quite a bit in these conversations.
Based on the limited info I've come across if I was in yours shoes I'd definitely try the Ivermectin/Fenbendazole, NAC, Iodine and probably fasting/Ketosis. Just be sure to incorporate anything additional that is needed when taking a certain supplement like selenium with iodine which is supposedly important.
Don't give up on the idea of starting a family, I'm in a very similar boat to you but just trying to create a solid foundation before I venture that way.
I'm preparing for retirement, I'm not big on drama and most women have a bit more than I have patience for. I like women, I just don't want to live with a woman. I've had my fill. Every woman in my life had been a long term relationship, they pretty much were short breaks in between, but this has been over ten years and i've never been happier and more content, plus my savings are great and my debt is down to just 150k of mortgage. I've been focusing on improving my body and mind and have never been healthier and less stressed. Even work stress doesn't even bother me any more. I seem better able to handle it without losing my shit.
Fair enough, we each have our own paths!
I MGTOW is such a good movement. Women are destroying us, our families, and our culture.
The ladies on here are different, of course. I'm talking about the 'average' woman out there now.
MGTOW is a psyop.
No. Redpill is "enjoy the decline". MGTOW is "fuck you, I can thrive by myself without pussy".
Doesn't mean relationships are off the table forever.
Yes.
http://www.renegadetribune.com/the-psychological-operation-to-blame-white-women/
You don't need to be convinced by Jews that women have been misbehaving with their use of social media and online dating. Wanting their cake and to eat it too.
And personally, I don't blame them for setting the bar high. I'm up to the challenge of making myself a desirable man to quality women.
Don't move out until you talk to a divorce attorney.
If the "vaxx" works so well, then they should have nothing to worry about!!!
What a shitty thing for all of them to do. Stay strong!
Wow, I'm so sorry, I can't imagine being married for so long and having your significant other treat you like that, you aren't being selfish, they are. Whatever happened to body autonomy? I will remember you in my prayers, and I hope this turns out to be better for you in the end.
Also big time disrespect for you who did the research and she would not listen, had family gang up on you.
Why are you moving out? If she wants to go, let her.
Whoa... this is very sad.
So sorry this is happening to you fren.
Why are you leaving? Make her move.
I've will be married 46 years this coming Monday. My husband and I do not agree with everything but after I shared videos with him he decided not to get the shot. Initially he said he would wait a year. After everything that has happened he has agreed not to take it. I don't know what I would do if he insisted on me taking the jab. Thank God I don't have to deal with that. Even my sister in law and her hubby were gonna wait a year to take the jab. She told me this week neither one of them want it now. They are too concerned about how it will affect them. And neither of her sons have taken it either.
Let her leave if she wants to - she cannot demand you to leave and if you do, you are making it easier for her now and later to keep it.
Wait. Why would you leave? That's your house. Is your name on the mortgage? Don't leave your house.
Don't pack your shit, make her move out. No reason you should have to move b/c of her insane fear.
She showed you who she is, she is showing you her vows meant nothing.
I would tell her she can leave, but you are staying.
I agree
That sucks. I'm sorry it came to that. Giving in would have essentially been giving up your dignity and surrendering yourself as being under her command.
Take care of yourself. Think strategic. Divorce court will favor her. In most jurisdictions, filing first gives you modestly better leverage.
DO NOT LEAVE THAT HOUSE!! Move to a spare room and hire an attorney. If she wants to play games, let them begin but you make the moves and control the board.
She can move to a spare room.
YOU out of the house????? NO SIR!!!!!! CRAZY BITCH OUT.
HAVE SOME BALLS
Do not move out! That will bite you in the ass later if it goes to divorce. You have a right to be there just as much as her. If she doesn't like it, she can move out! DO NOT MOVE OUT.
Yes. This!
https://cordellcordell.com/
Stand brother! We stand with you. Most of my extended family and a few friends have vaxxed… I’m beside myself with sorrow BUT they were warned, educated, and I begged profusely… to no avail 😓 Then they have tried to talk me into vaxxing but I’m nobody’s idiot! I’ve been a rebel all my life and now is not the time to adjust lol this is WAR! You take from me, I take back TENFOLD! God bless you my fren, chin up, and just know that you are loved and appreciated! ♥️🐸🍿Definitely fight it out in court. You are a beautiful human being and you DO NOT deserve this cruelty!