Man hands, long nails, is it a woman? Is it Ghislaine? Isn't there some mystery about where she's being held during this trial? Is that a........... beard??
Also, tiny plane, no masks... private jet? All these people traveling together as a group? What time did he make the post? Did anyone check the plane tracker?
Also noticed he's in a video a few posts down on his insa wearing the same hat.
I like the guy next to her, laughing at her for holding up her hand and the book to hide behind, as if she's REEEEALLY not supposed to be on that flight!!
The hand holding up what looks like “stop” seems to me she is deliberately joining the middle and other finger together to form what is sort of like a W or upside down M.
not even joking, try to take pics of a female friend/relative when they aren't prepared, invariably, the hands and whatever is in them will come up to block their faces from the camera. Maybe selfies have changed that, but it's been a truism as long as I can remember...
just saying, I've known too many relatives, particularly female ones, who would cover their face in a similar manner if someone tried to take a picture of them if they didn't want a photo taken.
Not that one. The hand holding the book. It could be that's just the way she holds a book one handed, bit it's also a comm symbol for [them]. It's associated with the "ok/666" hand gesture.
The idea that Freemasons are the enemy is not as clear as people want it to be.
The enemy are the people that want us to not recognize our sovereignty; that want us to believe that we are not free, that want us to remain within The Matrix.
Everyone working against that, no matter their association or even what they have done is not our enemy.
The Freemasons are 100% one of our enemies. You're shilling for one of the most corrupt entities in the history of mankind.
Albert Pike described in detail how the Freemasons would be an integral part of the NWO.
Anyone who defends the freemasons or is one, is a traitor. And people who are part of secret societies involved in the deepest roots of the DS, are only pretending to be on our side.
Anyone who believes they know the truth is incapable of hearing (/seeing/listening to/entertaining) any evidence that runs contrary to their beliefs. We live in the Matrix. Nothing is what it seems to be. Keep your eyes open or risk remaining in The Matrix.
You're shilling for one of the most corrupt entities in the history of mankind.
Never call me a shill. I don't shill. I look at evidence, debate evidence, show evidence. Just because I don't believe what you believe doesn't make me a shill, it only makes me a person who doesn't believe your beliefs.
Albert Pike described in detail how the Freemasons would be an integral part of the NWO.
Even if that were true (which it isn't exactly true) and even if I believed Albert Pike completely (which I don't), it still wouldn't mean that all Freemasons are the enemy. It would only mean that the organization itself would be used to bring about the NWO (which I agree there is substantial evidence to support such a claim). There is also substantial evidence that there are Freemason factions. Why would one ignore that evidence just to proclaim some definitive (i.e. "All Freemasons are Evil because I have seen evidence that some Freemasons are Evil").
Anyone who defends the freemasons or is one, is a traitor.
You may now proceed to Go Fuck Yourself.
I am a seeker of the Truth, nothing more and nothing less. Even if I am a terrible one (I have no idea what the Truth is), that doesn't make me anything more or less than that. Your idea of what I must be because I don't share your beliefs is irrelevant to me. You can keep your beliefs on what I must be to yourself, as I will keep my opinions on what you are to myself (believe me, that is for the best).
I'm not the one defending a secrety society at the root of DS operations worldwide lmao. You are.
You're all triggered because more than likely you are one of the traitors yourself. Freemasons are shit stains on society, always were and always will be.
I'm not the one defending a secrety society at the root of DS operations worldwide lmao. You are.
Actually I'm not doing that at all. This is what I said:
The idea that Freemasons are the enemy is not as clear as people want it to be.
I said that them, being the enemy, "is not as clear as people want it to be."
I never said there was no evidence of any particular Freemason being an enemy, or that the Freemason organization itself wasn't implicated in fuckery, nor are either of those ideas implicit in my statement. I never even said that the organization wasn't at the root of the DS operations (though I do not think they are "the root", but there is substantial evidence that they are a big part of it).
Learn to read before jumping on your favorite conclusion lest you get it completely wrong.
You're way behind, kid. Way behind.
Ad hominem attacks only serve to prevent debate and investigations into the Truth. Until you learn that, you will never be helpful in that endeavor.
I’m with you homie. Truth seeker first and foremost. Most ppl here should know that definitives like “ALL” are rarely correct.- and pointing that fact out does make one a shill. Simply put, the majority of masons are just enthusiastic normie patriots (esp the older ones) who still watch faux and like hannity. Now just a slight clarification like: “all, HIGH-level, ‘connected’ masons are shady at best, traitors at worst,” would make a world of difference, and I think you may be more inclined to agree with a similar sentiment. Ppl on this board are far to quick to yell shill and glowie (while reeeeeeing just as hard as lefty who acts like they have all the answers); hubris is an enemy of vigilance, and if there’s one thing we need more of now, it’s vigilance.
Most ppl here should know that definitives like “ALL” are rarely correct
“all, HIGH-level, ‘connected’ masons are shady at best, traitors at worst,” would make a world of difference, and I think you may be more inclined to agree with a similar sentiment
These are at odds with each other.
I also do not agree. I think there may be factions within the Masons at the top level, at least I have seen a fair bit of evidence that supports that idea. That is why I made a clear statement of who I think the real enemy is:
The enemy are the people that want us to not recognize our sovereignty; that want us to believe that we are not free, that want us to remain within The Matrix.
Period.
and
Everyone working against that, no matter their association or even what they have done [in the past] is not our enemy.
Bolded for emphasis and added "in the past" for clarification.
hubris is an enemy of vigilance, and if there’s one thing we need more of now, it’s vigilance.
We all suffer from this. And while its not exactly what you said, vigilance against our own hubris is the hardest thing imo, or at least it is for me.
Yes my point about the definitives wasn’t worded well (trying to point out that even a little bit of specification can go a long ways, even if the claim is still somewhat broad- and that if ppl have made it here, then one would think those same ppl are aware of some of the traps they should attempt to avoid- but as my bumbling ass has now proven, that’s easier said than done.) Not trying to put words in your mouth; my apologies. Your definition of our enemy and the true issue at hand is about as succinct and accurate as it gets (honestly should make it it’s own post just to get it to the front of the board). And that is precisely what I meant about our hubris and vigilance; it’s the hardest part for myself as well. Thank you for the effort and thought you put into your replies; it’s always nice to meet another based Patriot
I appreciate your reply, I see too much on here about how freemasons are evil. I have a great grandpa on one side of family who is Scottish rights order Freemason. And a grandpa other side of family who is a freemason. And to me! Ioved them both! Then I read on here, how they are horrible evil people. No, they were not.
What do you mean by "truths"? I said there was evidence that not all freemasons are clearly our enemy. That has nothing to do with Truth itself, it is simply what we use to investigate the Truth.
As evidence, pretty much everyone who signed the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both of which make implicit statements of individual sovereignty (an important part of what we are fighting for) were Freemasons.
There is substantial evidence that Trump is a freemason. There is substantial evidence that virtually all of the people in charge of everything going back forever have been freemasons, not all of them are clearly our enemies. For example, there is evidence that JFK was a Rosecrucian, or even a freemason (even if those groups pretend to be at odds, there is evidence that suggests they are the same organization). His entire family was deep in that group. It would be ludicrous to think he just happened to not be and was also made President by election fuckery (see Chicago election fraud). Was JFK clearly our enemy? Who knows, maybe he was, or maybe he was an insider that fought for us, or ???
All these people that we think are on our side are almost certainly insiders. You pretty much have to be an insider to completely understand what is going on sufficient to take down such an entrenched enemy. Such a group of "insiders" would be a "faction."
Imagine that you are a "mover and a shaker." You can't get there without becoming part of "the club." There are probably different levels of the club, but once a part of the club, as you move up higher and higher, you can learn a fair bit about the whole affair. You play along, doing minimal harm simply because you recognize "that's just the way the world works." Such a person would likely jump at the chance to destroy the organization from within if offered that opportunity.
Maybe on the other hand you don't do minimal harm, but go full Satan because you don't see that there is any other way to have the level of success, be the person you want to be, external to the evil.
And then what if you see that there is another path. Like above, say that hypothetical faction shows you that you can fight the Evil from within. You might use your status to take them apart, to destroy them; recognizing your own evil deeds, but trying to do what you can to bring freedom back to the world.
One huge thing people forget in their need to hate and need to categorize is, these evil people are people. People are complicated. Things are not always what they seem. People change. Some people change a lot when presented with evidence, such as my hypothetical "change of heart" when one super high up and evil sees that there is another way, a way to destroy the evil that they never liked, but embraced as the only way to be on the path of success they wanted to be on.
These are just a few ideas off the top of my head. I have had many other thoughts on this subject (and/or seen evidence) that I am not thinking of right now.
Many of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons including George Washington and Ben Franklin, so I would think that there is maybe more to this than all Freemasons are bad.
Saying that the organization is 100% bad is like saying the US Government is 100% bad - it's just not true, there is a lot of that the government does that is in fact necessary and beneficial, plus many many good people, despite the DS and the many corrupt politicians in power.
If I join a secret society who's higher members are known to be DS leaders and I spread their infleunce and power via membership, costs and work which appears to be wholesome and good for society, yet designed to shield the filth the higher ups partake in, I'm contributing.
Understand what a "secret society" is before you go on and defend them. I wrote you're way behind because you are, it's not an insult. You're just behind.
You're right, it is simple. You conflate the work and intention of lower members with what the true purpose of masonry is. Doctors who spread covid bullshit who don't know otherwise are not inherently evil, but they are contributing to a system of corruption led by those above them.
There is no difference here. Here is the reality of the situation that is different from the doctor example above.
IF Mason membership was not offered to normies on the ground, not in a million years could they hide what they do at the top. They purposely allow normies in to cover up their filth.
Hate to break it to you pal, but Slyver is right here.
There is A LOT more to occult studies that is not understood by the lot of us.
Christianity itself is filled with occult knowledge and references.
The word simply means "hidden".
It's all knowledge, systems of science, philosophy, and spirituality. Just because some choose to use said tools for evil does not make said tools or subjects inherently evil.
Guarantee you that there are "good" freemasons, "good" occultic christians, etc. There's a real lightside/darkside thing going on here and there's not one simple answer, as many would like to believe.
Guarantee you that there are "good" freemasons, "good" occultic christians
Agreed. I began researching the occult world and realized there are some based occultists. Some routinely call on angels and demons to attack pedophiles. There's definitely spiritual warfare taking place.
Yep, from what I've read/heard the original free masons weren't evil. But they were infiltrated somewhere around the 1600s/1700s can't remember at this point. But even though the infiltrating sect is the one that took over and dominated the masonic movement. I wouldn't be surprised that there would be some different surviving factions within.
So mason symbolism in satanic hollywood entertainment is what? It's in ever pop culture music video from the black and white tiled floors to the "as above, so below" imagery etc.
It's right in your face and people have spent years researching it.
Normal Americans joining is just their way of shielding themselves from the corruption they partake in. In fact, normal people joining is the reason why they get away with it.
Jimmy and Thomas conduct charity events on the weekends, both are freemasons.
Their "Worshipful Master" is partakes in corruption within the locale the lodge is based in. The communities image of the Masons is represented by Jimmy and Thomas because that's what the higher ups want while they secretly spread filth.
If lower Masons did not exist, the higher ups would be exposed.
That's exactly what I've written lmao. Literally that. How it used to be a good thing. This isn't a bunch argument either. There are masons who hold charity events on weekends. Are they bad? No. But guys like Albert Pike or Prince Philip, a man who sits at the top or close to the top of the pyramid, yea.
Not all cops are bad. Many are. Unfortunately, it's the ones at the top and in Freemasonry, you'll find no honest, non satanists at the top. Unless that is, pedos like Philip and his sons are part of the same Lodge as honest Joe-6-Pack
Seems to me Q is implying that like all agencies a small but powerful element has infiltrated and corrupted.
Q seems to imply that like the other agencies the BAD should not outweigh the GOOD. Much of the knowledge has been flipped and mirrored by these sinister components.
I'm starting to think that a lot of these people who cling to these old adages are glowies
It's entirely possible, but at the same time, people do tend to believe they know the Truth. We have been trained to believe that we can know the truth by The Matrix. If we can know the truth, then others can also know the truth. If others can know the truth then we can trust what others have to say. If we trust what others have to say, then we can be easily led around by the nose, and the Matrix is self containing, easily keeping everyone in the box.
We are trained to be this way, so it is not necessarily a good idea to think that those following that training are our enemies. It is rather more likely that they are just not yet sufficiently awake.
Nevertheless, that behavior is also exactly what COINTELPRO is, so who knows.
I don't doubt that high echelon Freemasons are in the cabal, but my dad and grandfather were Masons because it was viewed as a good thing to do, and I don't think they had a clue as to the real aims of the cabal. Neither of them was religious and they probably viewed any Luciferian stuff they were exposed to as not being plausible. IMO there are probably a lot of low-level Masons that don't really understand the underlying meanings of the Masonic stuff.
When Masons take the "oath" it's my understanding they have to remove their clothing, their wedding rings, anything that shows "allegiance" to any other power - including God. This is why it's anti-Christian. Without question many who join are decent people - but I personally believe, they were misled. All that being said...I also think the Masons as we know them today, were perhaps not what they once were...and have morphed in some fashion over the years. I'm no expert on the history.
How about sharing some way in which they're different? If it's hard to think of any, maybe it means the differences aren't so significant? I don't know.
BTW I know next to nothing about Freemasonry except it's centuries old and full of highly bullshit secretiveness...and features the right and obligation to kill other members if they reveal the secrets. And George Washington was in it, and Monty Python mocked the shit out of it.
GW was not involved at the top of the modern worlds DS plans. Similar thing happened to the Church. Many good things end up terrible. Masonry is one of them.
People in this movement do so much research and great critical thinking, and then turn around and judge people by one tiny thing. One major portion of being a critical thinker is to know that you don't and can't know everything. We need to know when to set things aside and just move on for a bit, until more pieces come together.
Freemasonry isn’t one tiny thing. It’s a society that has secret initiation rituals that ultimately filters the most evil of the bunch up to various degrees. Basically they trade their souls for power and influence, the higher they go. It’s hard to trust anyone who is a mason, until it’s known what degree they are. And as they’re highly secretive, one never knows unless revealed. Do we know what degree mason Stallone is? He’s fairly famous and has achieved success. Was it organic or was it his Freemasonry?
No, everywhere. We don't have a free market and we never have. The elite decide what is popular, who is famous, what companies succeed and fail. All of it. All pop culture is controlled.
This looks to be changing, but right now, the whole world is rigged.
Brilliant. Some say they've seen Trump doing the hidden hand. Warring self interest serves us, if whoever is warring for us wants to preserve constitutional rights and freedoms.
SUMMARY of interaction: For those who want to TLDR this wonderful comment thread....
Silver: Freemasons? The issue is not as simple as people think. Definition of enemy: "Everyone working against that (our remaining stuck in the Matrix), no matter their association or even what they have done is not our enemy"
Dear Leader: There can be no distinction. I only think in terms of groups, and associations, and there can be no variance on that point. Therefore, "The Freemasons" are by definition NOT working against our remaining in the Matrix. Not a single one. They are all rotten, and there can be no doubt that NONE of them are not working to undermine us.
Silver: I think we should take a more nuanced approach to how we evaluate who or what our enemies are.
Dear Leader: No. I refuse. And because you are even attempting a more nuanced examination of the issue, you are a SHILL, and evil. Begone!
Silver: dude... Open you're mind a bit here. Can't you see that you're so identified with what you think is evil that you have pigeon-holed your own thinking? That's not helpful.
Dear Leader: whaa...? how dare y... ! You are.....!!! Well, you're an idiot! So there.
Silver: Hey, comon. Can't we at least have a rational discussion?
Dear Leader: well, you're a poopy head! And I hate the Freemasons, and you are defending them, so you're a double poopy head!
Silver: Damn, man. I'm NOT defending them. I'm saying, there's more too it. Anyway, <facepalm>. Jerk.
Dear Leader: Yeah, well my argument is better than your argument, so there. Dad said so.
Silver: No it's not.
Dear Leader: yes it is.
END.
See? This is how to have a productive interaction. Siblings will be siblings....
Edit: Dear Leader could have easily avoided this entire back and forth argument by simply agreeing with Silver's definition and then stating, well, in my opinion NO freemasons are working against us staying in the Matrix.
Instead, Dear Leader decided to attack Silver's line of thinking (seeking greater nuance) and completely avoided the reasonable yet uncontentious difference of opinion on whether or not ALL freemasons (or the ENTIRE freemason community as a whole) are working against our being freed from the Matrix.
He chose to argue the line of thinking, in order to defend his position (opinion).
Conclusion: Silver wins the argument by virtue of the fact that Dear Leader's approach was not so much based in reason as it was in a defensive attitude, instead of simply owning the disagreement.
8 points to House Lone Ranger, 5 points to House North Korea.
I want to believe that Sly is one of the good guys. Some of his movies are unapologetically based.
Case in point, in the last Rambo movie, his character took down a human trafficking ring, very brutally I might add. It was sooo satisfying to watch! Definitely goes against Hollywood interests.
Book someone is using to hide their face behind him says "every last secret"... this may be worth digging on and/or filing away for future reference anyhow
Then again, no one is better than Celebrities and Politicians at just finding what is getting others attention and emulating it, and I do think mostly just for the attention and without any thought of deeper or spiritual meanings. We need to remain aware of that and not give meaning ourselves where it might just be the natural need for those who trade in the currency of "eyes on me" to get more people looking in their direction.
Not saying he is bad or whatever, but I would doubt he would be part of any plan. Probably trying to F with the movement. Cause the hat and statement is definitely not coincidence.
You may be right but I also never would e dreamed a guy who made pillows in Minnesota would be helping to save the country, so I think anything is possible.
I don't know a whole lot about Sly, but I do know his first "feature film" was a "softcore porno" called "The Party at Kitty and Stud's", later rebranded as "The Italian Stallion".
Here's a link to the Wikipedia page where we see this film was written, directed and PRODUCED by one Morton Lewis. Quite the auteur! It was distributed by "Italian Stallion Productions" (I smell a front) and Cinema Epoch.
Couple of takeaway hunches:
Knowing what we know about how the system works and how Stars Are Born, I'd say Mr. S has seen some shit. If one was Stranger Than Fiction minded, one could plausibly believe Rocky wearing a Q Hat, tweeting about "The Storm" while having someone in the background conspicuously holding up a "'Get away from me!' hand" and a book entitled "Every Last Secret" trade paperback is, in fact, comms.
I bet there's dirt to dig on M. Lewis and company.
LOL! All this moronic focus on man hands and you’re staring at Stallone wearing a Q hat, “heading into the storm”. The book is def coms though! Cool title, anyone know what the book is?
The chick behind him on the right appears to have the same color hat, possibly THE same hat? Zoom in on his hat and it might be netted like hers is on the back portion?
Ok maybe but it ALSO looks like 3 6's. Top, bottom, middle. Not saying you're wrong but that's also what I saw. You are probably right but figured I'd point it out
Thanks man. When I made the comment I had not read Stallone's remark "Heading into the Storm". With capital S.
That totally changes this from up in the air to undeniable comm. The Q on the hat is referring to our Q, and the person posing with the book in the background is part of it.
its a good point, but its very weird how hes wearing a hat with a Q, captioned "heading into the storm", with someone in the background hiding behind a "every last secret" book while also indicating with other hand to stop
The book is the most interresting part of this photo honestly, looks like comms
Man hands, long nails, is it a woman? Is it Ghislaine? Isn't there some mystery about where she's being held during this trial? Is that a........... beard??
Every woman is a tranny to some people 🙄
Every one of them
It's not a beard, it's colar bone, flat plane catching that side light just above the dark shirt. Total woman.
This
yeah, a ma'am with man hands lol, and what looks like a white beard
Or that's a lower neck?
Note the long, painted (white) fingernails. Might be acrylic nails.
It's JFK JR! Lol
omg lol!
McAfee has a goatee like that.
If it's a guy, he has long lady nails. Trans? Disguise?
Did a quick search for McAfee's hands and none had him with long nails.
I did see that Jeff Epstein sometimes has a full white beard though. 🤷♂️
Epstien was my next guess, I mean can you even imagine lol
Also, tiny plane, no masks... private jet? All these people traveling together as a group? What time did he make the post? Did anyone check the plane tracker?
Also noticed he's in a video a few posts down on his insa wearing the same hat.
What is frightening is that 7/10 are targeted kills. I wouldn’t risk taking a flight until DS means of killing is gone.
And a few more posts down on 11/14 he shows the book and says his daughter recommended it to him, "would make a great movie"
It looks like a white goatee on the guy. And the hair to the right of the book looks short. But then again, those some lady looking hands.
looks like some big man hands to me, my opinion as a lady.
man hands that have never seen a hard day's work.
With white nail polish?
I like the guy next to her, laughing at her for holding up her hand and the book to hide behind, as if she's REEEEALLY not supposed to be on that flight!!
Yep, and the hand gesture with it.
The hand holding up what looks like “stop” seems to me she is deliberately joining the middle and other finger together to form what is sort of like a W or upside down M.
Wumbo. I knew it.
Willy Wonka was behind it all from the start!
A wumbologist would know.
IDK, if I hold my hand out my middle and ring finger naturally come together as well.
Maybe depends on the hand, I have to either force an “open fingers” stop gesture or a closed fingers stop gesture.
The W or upside down M is known to be symbolic.
Pertains to a certain Freemason drawing and Y heads as well.
YES! Like she's saying, "Stop every last secret". VERY interdasting.
could also be she doesn't want to be filmed. oO;;
HAHAHA True, true.
not even joking, try to take pics of a female friend/relative when they aren't prepared, invariably, the hands and whatever is in them will come up to block their faces from the camera. Maybe selfies have changed that, but it's been a truism as long as I can remember...
Mr. Occam might agree.
just saying, I've known too many relatives, particularly female ones, who would cover their face in a similar manner if someone tried to take a picture of them if they didn't want a photo taken.
....would be exposed
It's the universal hand gesture for "stop"
Is that why my wife and daughter make that jesture every time I try to take their pic when they're brushing their teeth? Who knew?
Not that one. The hand holding the book. It could be that's just the way she holds a book one handed, bit it's also a comm symbol for [them]. It's associated with the "ok/666" hand gesture.
I really doubt it; that hand position is also (for me at least, and I'm sure others) the most comfortable way to hold a book open one-handed.
Same for me. That’s standard.
So you could say she is saying "stop" with one hand, and "666" with the other. Every last secret.
The first one yes, the 2nd one WTF? Gonna need a source on the left hand shape meaning 666 and not just book-holding.
ah good catch. I was focused on the other hand.
Also the universal hand gesture for, “I don’t want to be in this photo”
In April he bought a compound across from Trump. He also joined maraglago and libs flipped out. He has been friends with Trump for years.
The idea that Freemasons are the enemy is not as clear as people want it to be.
The enemy are the people that want us to not recognize our sovereignty; that want us to believe that we are not free, that want us to remain within The Matrix.
Everyone working against that, no matter their association or even what they have done is not our enemy.
The Freemasons are 100% one of our enemies. You're shilling for one of the most corrupt entities in the history of mankind.
Albert Pike described in detail how the Freemasons would be an integral part of the NWO.
Anyone who defends the freemasons or is one, is a traitor. And people who are part of secret societies involved in the deepest roots of the DS, are only pretending to be on our side.
Anyone who believes they know the truth is incapable of hearing (/seeing/listening to/entertaining) any evidence that runs contrary to their beliefs. We live in the Matrix. Nothing is what it seems to be. Keep your eyes open or risk remaining in The Matrix.
Never call me a shill. I don't shill. I look at evidence, debate evidence, show evidence. Just because I don't believe what you believe doesn't make me a shill, it only makes me a person who doesn't believe your beliefs.
Even if that were true (which it isn't exactly true) and even if I believed Albert Pike completely (which I don't), it still wouldn't mean that all Freemasons are the enemy. It would only mean that the organization itself would be used to bring about the NWO (which I agree there is substantial evidence to support such a claim). There is also substantial evidence that there are Freemason factions. Why would one ignore that evidence just to proclaim some definitive (i.e. "All Freemasons are Evil because I have seen evidence that some Freemasons are Evil").
You may now proceed to Go Fuck Yourself.
I am a seeker of the Truth, nothing more and nothing less. Even if I am a terrible one (I have no idea what the Truth is), that doesn't make me anything more or less than that. Your idea of what I must be because I don't share your beliefs is irrelevant to me. You can keep your beliefs on what I must be to yourself, as I will keep my opinions on what you are to myself (believe me, that is for the best).
I'm not the one defending a secrety society at the root of DS operations worldwide lmao. You are.
You're all triggered because more than likely you are one of the traitors yourself. Freemasons are shit stains on society, always were and always will be.
You're way behind, kid. Way behind.
Actually I'm not doing that at all. This is what I said:
I said that them, being the enemy, "is not as clear as people want it to be."
I never said there was no evidence of any particular Freemason being an enemy, or that the Freemason organization itself wasn't implicated in fuckery, nor are either of those ideas implicit in my statement. I never even said that the organization wasn't at the root of the DS operations (though I do not think they are "the root", but there is substantial evidence that they are a big part of it).
Learn to read before jumping on your favorite conclusion lest you get it completely wrong.
Ad hominem attacks only serve to prevent debate and investigations into the Truth. Until you learn that, you will never be helpful in that endeavor.
I’m with you homie. Truth seeker first and foremost. Most ppl here should know that definitives like “ALL” are rarely correct.- and pointing that fact out does make one a shill. Simply put, the majority of masons are just enthusiastic normie patriots (esp the older ones) who still watch faux and like hannity. Now just a slight clarification like: “all, HIGH-level, ‘connected’ masons are shady at best, traitors at worst,” would make a world of difference, and I think you may be more inclined to agree with a similar sentiment. Ppl on this board are far to quick to yell shill and glowie (while reeeeeeing just as hard as lefty who acts like they have all the answers); hubris is an enemy of vigilance, and if there’s one thing we need more of now, it’s vigilance.
These are at odds with each other.
I also do not agree. I think there may be factions within the Masons at the top level, at least I have seen a fair bit of evidence that supports that idea. That is why I made a clear statement of who I think the real enemy is:
Period.
and
Bolded for emphasis and added "in the past" for clarification.
We all suffer from this. And while its not exactly what you said, vigilance against our own hubris is the hardest thing imo, or at least it is for me.
Yes my point about the definitives wasn’t worded well (trying to point out that even a little bit of specification can go a long ways, even if the claim is still somewhat broad- and that if ppl have made it here, then one would think those same ppl are aware of some of the traps they should attempt to avoid- but as my bumbling ass has now proven, that’s easier said than done.) Not trying to put words in your mouth; my apologies. Your definition of our enemy and the true issue at hand is about as succinct and accurate as it gets (honestly should make it it’s own post just to get it to the front of the board). And that is precisely what I meant about our hubris and vigilance; it’s the hardest part for myself as well. Thank you for the effort and thought you put into your replies; it’s always nice to meet another based Patriot
I appreciate your reply, I see too much on here about how freemasons are evil. I have a great grandpa on one side of family who is Scottish rights order Freemason. And a grandpa other side of family who is a freemason. And to me! Ioved them both! Then I read on here, how they are horrible evil people. No, they were not.
They were fine people. Stop on by some evening and you could probably hear some interesting stories from guys they knew.
So what truths have you found in support of the freemasons?
What do you mean by "truths"? I said there was evidence that not all freemasons are clearly our enemy. That has nothing to do with Truth itself, it is simply what we use to investigate the Truth.
As evidence, pretty much everyone who signed the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both of which make implicit statements of individual sovereignty (an important part of what we are fighting for) were Freemasons.
There is substantial evidence that Trump is a freemason. There is substantial evidence that virtually all of the people in charge of everything going back forever have been freemasons, not all of them are clearly our enemies. For example, there is evidence that JFK was a Rosecrucian, or even a freemason (even if those groups pretend to be at odds, there is evidence that suggests they are the same organization). His entire family was deep in that group. It would be ludicrous to think he just happened to not be and was also made President by election fuckery (see Chicago election fraud). Was JFK clearly our enemy? Who knows, maybe he was, or maybe he was an insider that fought for us, or ???
All these people that we think are on our side are almost certainly insiders. You pretty much have to be an insider to completely understand what is going on sufficient to take down such an entrenched enemy. Such a group of "insiders" would be a "faction."
Imagine that you are a "mover and a shaker." You can't get there without becoming part of "the club." There are probably different levels of the club, but once a part of the club, as you move up higher and higher, you can learn a fair bit about the whole affair. You play along, doing minimal harm simply because you recognize "that's just the way the world works." Such a person would likely jump at the chance to destroy the organization from within if offered that opportunity.
Maybe on the other hand you don't do minimal harm, but go full Satan because you don't see that there is any other way to have the level of success, be the person you want to be, external to the evil.
And then what if you see that there is another path. Like above, say that hypothetical faction shows you that you can fight the Evil from within. You might use your status to take them apart, to destroy them; recognizing your own evil deeds, but trying to do what you can to bring freedom back to the world.
One huge thing people forget in their need to hate and need to categorize is, these evil people are people. People are complicated. Things are not always what they seem. People change. Some people change a lot when presented with evidence, such as my hypothetical "change of heart" when one super high up and evil sees that there is another way, a way to destroy the evil that they never liked, but embraced as the only way to be on the path of success they wanted to be on.
These are just a few ideas off the top of my head. I have had many other thoughts on this subject (and/or seen evidence) that I am not thinking of right now.
Many of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons including George Washington and Ben Franklin, so I would think that there is maybe more to this than all Freemasons are bad.
Saying that the organization is 100% bad is like saying the US Government is 100% bad - it's just not true, there is a lot of that the government does that is in fact necessary and beneficial, plus many many good people, despite the DS and the many corrupt politicians in power.
Where
He'd make a fine shriner
If I join a secret society who's higher members are known to be DS leaders and I spread their infleunce and power via membership, costs and work which appears to be wholesome and good for society, yet designed to shield the filth the higher ups partake in, I'm contributing.
Understand what a "secret society" is before you go on and defend them. I wrote you're way behind because you are, it's not an insult. You're just behind.
Your world is very simple.
I envy your ability to pretend.
You're right, it is simple. You conflate the work and intention of lower members with what the true purpose of masonry is. Doctors who spread covid bullshit who don't know otherwise are not inherently evil, but they are contributing to a system of corruption led by those above them.
There is no difference here. Here is the reality of the situation that is different from the doctor example above.
IF Mason membership was not offered to normies on the ground, not in a million years could they hide what they do at the top. They purposely allow normies in to cover up their filth.
It's as simple as that.
Hate to break it to you pal, but Slyver is right here.
There is A LOT more to occult studies that is not understood by the lot of us.
Christianity itself is filled with occult knowledge and references.
The word simply means "hidden".
It's all knowledge, systems of science, philosophy, and spirituality. Just because some choose to use said tools for evil does not make said tools or subjects inherently evil.
Guarantee you that there are "good" freemasons, "good" occultic christians, etc. There's a real lightside/darkside thing going on here and there's not one simple answer, as many would like to believe.
Agreed. I began researching the occult world and realized there are some based occultists. Some routinely call on angels and demons to attack pedophiles. There's definitely spiritual warfare taking place.
Yes
A lot of it is about having a deeper understanding of the forces we are dealing with, most of them spiritual.
Yep, from what I've read/heard the original free masons weren't evil. But they were infiltrated somewhere around the 1600s/1700s can't remember at this point. But even though the infiltrating sect is the one that took over and dominated the masonic movement. I wouldn't be surprised that there would be some different surviving factions within.
So mason symbolism in satanic hollywood entertainment is what? It's in ever pop culture music video from the black and white tiled floors to the "as above, so below" imagery etc.
It's right in your face and people have spent years researching it.
It's used for evil... But you recoi the spell.
But you can't pretend like Christian pastors or priests don't manipulate or use the words of Christ towards evil ends. It's the same concept.
Christianity is a fucking sham and these "truthers" are so MK'd into it that they refuse to even consider the blatant bullshit.
The proverbial blind leading the blind
Normal Americans can join it. If they were all bad, we would’ve known by now.
Normal Americans joining is just their way of shielding themselves from the corruption they partake in. In fact, normal people joining is the reason why they get away with it.
Jimmy and Thomas conduct charity events on the weekends, both are freemasons.
Their "Worshipful Master" is partakes in corruption within the locale the lodge is based in. The communities image of the Masons is represented by Jimmy and Thomas because that's what the higher ups want while they secretly spread filth.
If lower Masons did not exist, the higher ups would be exposed.
Jimmy and tom both probably served there term as wm already.its a whopping seven hours a month but blather on ignorantly
It's not blathering because you're grade school comprehension skills struggle.
So tell me, I see your stance in Freemasonry.
What about Q?
When I see a post like yours contradicting what I know Q has stated directly, it catches my attention.
1632 - Jun 28, 2018 8:04:44 PM EDT
“Make Freemasonry Great Again.
The Clowns infiltrated it and have been abusing it's hierarchy for far too long.” -1947578
Most all powerful organizations have sinister components.
With power comes corruption.
Like alphabet agencies, not all are bad apples.
Should the bad spoil the bunch? Q
That's exactly what I've written lmao. Literally that. How it used to be a good thing. This isn't a bunch argument either. There are masons who hold charity events on weekends. Are they bad? No. But guys like Albert Pike or Prince Philip, a man who sits at the top or close to the top of the pyramid, yea.
Not all cops are bad. Many are. Unfortunately, it's the ones at the top and in Freemasonry, you'll find no honest, non satanists at the top. Unless that is, pedos like Philip and his sons are part of the same Lodge as honest Joe-6-Pack
Seems to me Q is implying that like all agencies a small but powerful element has infiltrated and corrupted.
Q seems to imply that like the other agencies the BAD should not outweigh the GOOD. Much of the knowledge has been flipped and mirrored by these sinister components.
But ask Q asks, should the BAD spoil the BUNCH?
What is a bunch? Who are these people who are good? The ground normies who run bowling events?
Who's the bunch? Cause it's run by guys like Prince Philip and royals all over the world.
It's entirely possible, but at the same time, people do tend to believe they know the Truth. We have been trained to believe that we can know the truth by The Matrix. If we can know the truth, then others can also know the truth. If others can know the truth then we can trust what others have to say. If we trust what others have to say, then we can be easily led around by the nose, and the Matrix is self containing, easily keeping everyone in the box.
We are trained to be this way, so it is not necessarily a good idea to think that those following that training are our enemies. It is rather more likely that they are just not yet sufficiently awake.
Nevertheless, that behavior is also exactly what COINTELPRO is, so who knows.
Keep your eyes open, always. :)
Masons are a nice fraternity that does nice things and eat a lot of spaghetti.
I don't doubt that high echelon Freemasons are in the cabal, but my dad and grandfather were Masons because it was viewed as a good thing to do, and I don't think they had a clue as to the real aims of the cabal. Neither of them was religious and they probably viewed any Luciferian stuff they were exposed to as not being plausible. IMO there are probably a lot of low-level Masons that don't really understand the underlying meanings of the Masonic stuff.
When Masons take the "oath" it's my understanding they have to remove their clothing, their wedding rings, anything that shows "allegiance" to any other power - including God. This is why it's anti-Christian. Without question many who join are decent people - but I personally believe, they were misled. All that being said...I also think the Masons as we know them today, were perhaps not what they once were...and have morphed in some fashion over the years. I'm no expert on the history.
Well you are required to belive in god and the divestment is purely symbolic
George Washington the traitor.
If you can't differentiate between GW era masonry and today, I don't know what to tell you lol
Why don't you know what to tell me?
How about sharing some way in which they're different? If it's hard to think of any, maybe it means the differences aren't so significant? I don't know.
BTW I know next to nothing about Freemasonry except it's centuries old and full of highly bullshit secretiveness...and features the right and obligation to kill other members if they reveal the secrets. And George Washington was in it, and Monty Python mocked the shit out of it.
Read "33 Degrees of Deception" then research who they are and what they are about.
Was George Washington the enemy?
He was an officer in the British Army once. Once! Kek!
GW was not involved at the top of the modern worlds DS plans. Similar thing happened to the Church. Many good things end up terrible. Masonry is one of them.
Would it be possible for a handful of masons to have a change of heart at some point? Like Trump?
Yes
People in this movement do so much research and great critical thinking, and then turn around and judge people by one tiny thing. One major portion of being a critical thinker is to know that you don't and can't know everything. We need to know when to set things aside and just move on for a bit, until more pieces come together.
Freemasonry isn’t one tiny thing. It’s a society that has secret initiation rituals that ultimately filters the most evil of the bunch up to various degrees. Basically they trade their souls for power and influence, the higher they go. It’s hard to trust anyone who is a mason, until it’s known what degree they are. And as they’re highly secretive, one never knows unless revealed. Do we know what degree mason Stallone is? He’s fairly famous and has achieved success. Was it organic or was it his Freemasonry?
There is virtually no such thing as organic success. If you're famous it's because you paid dues somewhere.
In Hollywood? Mostly. What about Mel Gibson? James Woods? They may have had organic success.
No, everywhere. We don't have a free market and we never have. The elite decide what is popular, who is famous, what companies succeed and fail. All of it. All pop culture is controlled.
This looks to be changing, but right now, the whole world is rigged.
Questions worth asking.
Brilliant. Some say they've seen Trump doing the hidden hand. Warring self interest serves us, if whoever is warring for us wants to preserve constitutional rights and freedoms.
SUMMARY of interaction: For those who want to TLDR this wonderful comment thread....
Silver: Freemasons? The issue is not as simple as people think. Definition of enemy: "Everyone working against that (our remaining stuck in the Matrix), no matter their association or even what they have done is not our enemy"
Dear Leader: There can be no distinction. I only think in terms of groups, and associations, and there can be no variance on that point. Therefore, "The Freemasons" are by definition NOT working against our remaining in the Matrix. Not a single one. They are all rotten, and there can be no doubt that NONE of them are not working to undermine us.
Silver: I think we should take a more nuanced approach to how we evaluate who or what our enemies are.
Dear Leader: No. I refuse. And because you are even attempting a more nuanced examination of the issue, you are a SHILL, and evil. Begone!
Silver: dude... Open you're mind a bit here. Can't you see that you're so identified with what you think is evil that you have pigeon-holed your own thinking? That's not helpful.
Dear Leader: whaa...? how dare y... ! You are.....!!! Well, you're an idiot! So there.
Silver: Hey, comon. Can't we at least have a rational discussion?
Dear Leader: well, you're a poopy head! And I hate the Freemasons, and you are defending them, so you're a double poopy head!
Silver: Damn, man. I'm NOT defending them. I'm saying, there's more too it. Anyway, <facepalm>. Jerk.
Dear Leader: Yeah, well my argument is better than your argument, so there. Dad said so.
Silver: No it's not.
Dear Leader: yes it is.
END.
See? This is how to have a productive interaction. Siblings will be siblings....
Edit: Dear Leader could have easily avoided this entire back and forth argument by simply agreeing with Silver's definition and then stating, well, in my opinion NO freemasons are working against us staying in the Matrix.
Instead, Dear Leader decided to attack Silver's line of thinking (seeking greater nuance) and completely avoided the reasonable yet uncontentious difference of opinion on whether or not ALL freemasons (or the ENTIRE freemason community as a whole) are working against our being freed from the Matrix.
He chose to argue the line of thinking, in order to defend his position (opinion).
Conclusion: Silver wins the argument by virtue of the fact that Dear Leader's approach was not so much based in reason as it was in a defensive attitude, instead of simply owning the disagreement.
8 points to House Lone Ranger, 5 points to House North Korea.
I want to believe that Sly is one of the good guys. Some of his movies are unapologetically based.
Case in point, in the last Rambo movie, his character took down a human trafficking ring, very brutally I might add. It was sooo satisfying to watch! Definitely goes against Hollywood interests.
Book someone is using to hide their face behind him says "every last secret"... this may be worth digging on and/or filing away for future reference anyhow
Also, reflection in his glasses might be interesting.
Then again, no one is better than Celebrities and Politicians at just finding what is getting others attention and emulating it, and I do think mostly just for the attention and without any thought of deeper or spiritual meanings. We need to remain aware of that and not give meaning ourselves where it might just be the natural need for those who trade in the currency of "eyes on me" to get more people looking in their direction.
Nice catch.
Not saying he is bad or whatever, but I would doubt he would be part of any plan. Probably trying to F with the movement. Cause the hat and statement is definitely not coincidence.
You may be right but I also never would e dreamed a guy who made pillows in Minnesota would be helping to save the country, so I think anything is possible.
That’s a James Bond logo hat...... !!
WWG1WGA
I don't know a whole lot about Sly, but I do know his first "feature film" was a "softcore porno" called "The Party at Kitty and Stud's", later rebranded as "The Italian Stallion".
Here's a link to the Wikipedia page where we see this film was written, directed and PRODUCED by one Morton Lewis. Quite the auteur! It was distributed by "Italian Stallion Productions" (I smell a front) and Cinema Epoch.
Couple of takeaway hunches:
Knowing what we know about how the system works and how Stars Are Born, I'd say Mr. S has seen some shit. If one was Stranger Than Fiction minded, one could plausibly believe Rocky wearing a Q Hat, tweeting about "The Storm" while having someone in the background conspicuously holding up a "'Get away from me!' hand" and a book entitled "Every Last Secret" trade paperback is, in fact, comms.
I bet there's dirt to dig on M. Lewis and company.
Curiouser and curiouser.
Him and Dolph Lundgren are gonna go round up Fauci and DeBlasio.....and then make it so that they have to look up to see down. 🥺
Not all masons are bad op
It's an evil organization that, to the people in the lower echelons of it have no clue about.
Thus, you won't see anyone saying anything good about them here on this forum.
Muh Rocky
But what does it mean?
Love the person hiding behind him--the book title... Every Last Secret. Hmmmm
Whats the logo on his seat ?
Not able to find that anywhere online. Still digging.
LOL! All this moronic focus on man hands and you’re staring at Stallone wearing a Q hat, “heading into the storm”. The book is def coms though! Cool title, anyone know what the book is?
What’s with the Woman reflected in the glossy black part? looks terrifying. Maybe just a strange distortion?
The way the hand is holding his fingers is a Freemasonic sign.
The chick behind him on the right appears to have the same color hat, possibly THE same hat? Zoom in on his hat and it might be netted like hers is on the back portion?
I hope he's good
"Every Last Secret"
That some kind of freemason hand gesture?
Nope
What about the wreath behind his head? That looks...official?
Idk. I though af1 was leather and that looks too small, more private plane then gov
But I don’t rec the brand.
There are American freemasons and the infiltrated satanic freemasons.
Wait till you hear about the fake ones
Ok maybe but it ALSO looks like 3 6's. Top, bottom, middle. Not saying you're wrong but that's also what I saw. You are probably right but figured I'd point it out
I have no clue why, but I thought of Princess Diana when I first saw this….
is that a Cadillac?
Is he on his way to Guantanamo?
Bad ass hat, nonetheless
I wouldn’t let this photo take up real estate in your noggin.
Lol, fair.
There is no Q hat in the photo.
We're sure that's a Q.
What we're not sure of is what is MEANT by that particular Q, on that head. It doesn't necessarily mean the Q who is a military intel backchannel.
Fair comment. It's def a Q.
Your qualification (we're not sure of what is meant...) is another stable, reasoned comment.
A grade.
Thanks man. When I made the comment I had not read Stallone's remark "Heading into the Storm". With capital S.
That totally changes this from up in the air to undeniable comm. The Q on the hat is referring to our Q, and the person posing with the book in the background is part of it.
its a good point, but its very weird how hes wearing a hat with a Q, captioned "heading into the storm", with someone in the background hiding behind a "every last secret" book while also indicating with other hand to stop
Too bad he didn't run for governor instead of Schwarteneggar....
Have the two of them ever been in a movie together?