1992 the number was said to be 11,000,000. Although real experts projected the # to be 25,000,000 minimum.
The 11 million number remained in use for the next 20 years as it represented a number that could be said to be too large to actually deport but small enough to prevent mass opposition.
We have well over 11 million since ChinaJoe. Anything less than 60,000,000 is a lie.
Towns all around me that were virtually all white when the original 11 million was used. Now I will be the only white person in the local walmart now. The great replacement is almost complete.
I remember reading an article from numbersusa back then about the myth of "to many to deport" which pointed to creating an environment where illegals choose to sef-deport as the solution.
IOW, if you create an environment where they cannot work, get housing, or public assistance, many of them will return to home country.
While I do agree that the number may be higher than 11M, I think that if there were roundups to the tune of picking up 11M people, you can better bet there's a lot of others who just say 'screw it' and head home on their own.
Allow those that self deport to apply for visas in the future, subject to all applicable standards for legal immigration. All others will be banned for their life and two generations of their descendants.
Honestly, how would you enforce that? Unless you propose to construct large data banks of DNA records (which is damned tyrannical at best), proving that the man or woman in front of you is related to some criminal in the decades past is quite difficult and expensive.
Immigration act of 1924 limited immigration to 2% of the number of citizens from a country who were in the US at the time of the 1890 census. No Asians were allowed to immigrate. So not quite all, but seriously limited.
Then don't say they stopped all immigration. Severely limiting immigrants from select countries is not at all the same thing as stopping "all migration for 50 years".
Why even bother making such an outlandish and easily refuted comment? We're already said to be spreading disinformation enough as it is. Why give them ammunition to back up that claim?
Well, pretty close to all and assuredly for great swaths of the world. I had no intention of misleading. Outlandish is also a bit of hyperbole, no? I should have said "practically all."
Question for TIME: If deporting all the illegals would "reshape America," then wasn't bringing them all here in the first place a blatant leftist attempt to "reshape America?"
It's my belief that we need to deport more than just the illegal alien immigrants. Their enablers need to go as well.
Deporting the pawns. What about the groups orchestrating the invasion? There are all kinds of immigrants and some are decent but what about those that planned this? It's like taking your stolen tv set from a thief and letting him continue his thieving. This plays into the distraction - claiming immigrants are the culprits but there are more powerful and sinister groups behind the whole thing. Also NATO empoverishes the working class which also leads to immigration.
Only for people with prescriptions. When anyone can show up to Walgreens and buy Oxycontin or whatever ever meds can get them high in whatever quantity they wish then you'll have cut into cartel profits.
Most will run out on their own. What happens when they realize their rechargeable debit cards aren't getting recharged? If they are smart they'll be saving money for the time they leave. They cam live like kings on the deep states debt when the u.s.dollar collapses.
Good detain them and search their bank records to see if they're being paid by foreign nations/groups and charge them with treason for aiding and abetting the enemy.
E-verify with heavy fines for employers with illegals on payroll and no welfare, SNAP, etc. for non-citizens (green card holders included) and most will self deport.
We wouldn't have a problem if the companies were forced to stop laying off all the citizens with years of experience. You know - the ones that have made their way up with promotions and raises only to get laid off and replaced with an H1B foreigner working for peanuts.
Stop ALL H1B Visas and that won't happen anymore. It will end up similar to all the old COBOL programmers that had to be brought back when they realized nobody else knew any of that.
Only 3 million came forward in the 1986 amnesty debacle and there were very likely WAY more here that didn't trust the deal. People are estimating 10-15 million came in under Biden so far.
Even with that idiotic deal CONgress floated where they would stop at 5,000 a day that comes to 1.825 million each year they wanted to just let in. Keep in mind hoards of them would still take a stroll across the river. If they thought 5k a day was low enough to appease us then they know the actual number. Even the NYT said there were over 2.4M apprehensions last year and you know they are released into the US, right? That also doesn't count the gotaways. Hint - I'd bet the actual number is at least twice, or more.
11 million would actually be a blessing. Years ago they were estimating over 15 million. I'd say at least 30 million by now.
My plan for years is to round them up, chain gang them to the border picking trash to earn their daily bread and water, work them to build the wall, with them ending on the south side when it’s completed.
Efficient, cost effective, and a deterrent to any others thinking of coming illegally.
Close to what I said earlier this year. I want them cleaning their way south from wherever they were caught until they reach the border. They didn't just trash the border area - they did the same wherever they ended up.
We already have FEMA camps. Instead of housing illegal entries in hotels, house them there. The immigration judges can hear their cases right there and expedite deportations.
How about we enforce E-Verify nationwide, and tax southbound Western Union type money transfers at 50%. Problem mostly solved and mass self-deportation takes place. Am I wrong?
He should use local sheriffs, the US Marshall service, and the regular Army.
The local Sheriff and a US Marshal deputize a whole platoon of infantry (As both local Sheriff's deputies and US Marshalls). This gives them plenty of manpower and the highest law enforcement in the local jurisdiction with legal jurisdiction outside of the local county (through the Marshal deputization).
Just enforce the laws. It's a crime to overstay your visa. It's a crime to enter illegally, etc. It's also a crime to use fake or stolen identification.
Treat them with the same repercussions ordinary citizens would get and they will self-deport! We know where they live. Let them know the evidence of the crimes they have committed we have, and let them know how long they have to flee before they are arrested and tried (and then deported).
You can't imagine the sheer numbers of them that have fake or stolen SSNs but file taxes with an ITIN, but report W2 income with the SSN. They are filing not to get a refund - they have ZERO withholding. They are getting $$$ back, frequently claiming many dependents who don't even live in the USA.
ITINs are issued to people who are not eligible for a SSN in order for them to file and pay taxes. We have a number for them, which is hilarious. It's illegal to be here but hey, since your here... pay some taxes! (Which of course is NOT what they do!)
Stolen SSN, fake IDs, etc... all crimes a citizen would do hard time for.
Why wait for deportations? We the citizens have the power to make this Country so hostile to the invaders that they'll self deport. Would you stay in a country where 80 million were openly shouting abuse at you wherever you went and surrounded the hotels and shelters you were living in?
I don't know about anyone else but where I live they built 2 ridiculously large buildings with a few hundred loading dock doors. I see these type of buildings being erected all over the country through Concerned Citizens Telegram account. No signs for space available or rent or anything and there all sitting vacant. The one by me has been finished over 6 months ago now. That may be there future purpose? Who knows.......
I think 11 Million might be a bit of a conservative estimate
17 million
It was 20 - 40 million as estimated by numberusa back in 2006.
1992 the number was said to be 11,000,000. Although real experts projected the # to be 25,000,000 minimum.
The 11 million number remained in use for the next 20 years as it represented a number that could be said to be too large to actually deport but small enough to prevent mass opposition.
We have well over 11 million since ChinaJoe. Anything less than 60,000,000 is a lie.
Towns all around me that were virtually all white when the original 11 million was used. Now I will be the only white person in the local walmart now. The great replacement is almost complete.
I remember reading an article from numbersusa back then about the myth of "to many to deport" which pointed to creating an environment where illegals choose to sef-deport as the solution.
IOW, if you create an environment where they cannot work, get housing, or public assistance, many of them will return to home country.
100p. At least 50 million.
600 million! That's why people keep finding them in their closets and under their bed!
25 million
I fear that your number might be more correct.. and hopefully not higher
I know Elegant...😾
While I do agree that the number may be higher than 11M, I think that if there were roundups to the tune of picking up 11M people, you can better bet there's a lot of others who just say 'screw it' and head home on their own.
Per year would be a good start.
Allow those that self deport to apply for visas in the future, subject to all applicable standards for legal immigration. All others will be banned for their life and two generations of their descendants.
Honestly, how would you enforce that? Unless you propose to construct large data banks of DNA records (which is damned tyrannical at best), proving that the man or woman in front of you is related to some criminal in the decades past is quite difficult and expensive.
True. So what we do is what our ancestors did after the Ellis Island influx. They stopped all migration for 50 years.
We have never stopped all immigrants from entering the country. Ever.
Where are you getting this?
Immigration act of 1924 limited immigration to 2% of the number of citizens from a country who were in the US at the time of the 1890 census. No Asians were allowed to immigrate. So not quite all, but seriously limited.
Then don't say they stopped all immigration. Severely limiting immigrants from select countries is not at all the same thing as stopping "all migration for 50 years".
Why even bother making such an outlandish and easily refuted comment? We're already said to be spreading disinformation enough as it is. Why give them ammunition to back up that claim?
Well, pretty close to all and assuredly for great swaths of the world. I had no intention of misleading. Outlandish is also a bit of hyperbole, no? I should have said "practically all."
Question for TIME: If deporting all the illegals would "reshape America," then wasn't bringing them all here in the first place a blatant leftist attempt to "reshape America?"
It's my belief that we need to deport more than just the illegal alien immigrants. Their enablers need to go as well.
Closer to 40,000,000. This has been going on for decades.
And their offspring. No anchor babies.
YES! THIS👆 Anchor babies loop hole MUST be eliminated.
YES!!!! I've been saying the same thing.
So, more than one in ten people?
Kind of finding that hard to believe.
Not hard to believe if you live in the southwest.
Once the operations starts I believe many will self-deport!
I do, too!!
Deporting the pawns. What about the groups orchestrating the invasion? There are all kinds of immigrants and some are decent but what about those that planned this? It's like taking your stolen tv set from a thief and letting him continue his thieving. This plays into the distraction - claiming immigrants are the culprits but there are more powerful and sinister groups behind the whole thing. Also NATO empoverishes the working class which also leads to immigration.
I assume the other part involves actually securing the border.
And by wiping out the cartels that bring migrants and drugs across our border.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/president-donald-j-trump-declares-war-on-cartels
It’s not just the cartels. It’s a bunch of NGOs like catholic charities
Sounds like a lot of work.
Would be much easier to legalize prescription drugs and lets see the smugglers compete with $1 Oxys from Walgreens.
Use the military to secure the border
Might be even cheaper to just pay CJNG or Sinaloa cartels to seal the border for us from the other side.
Prescription drugs are already legalized...
Only for people with prescriptions. When anyone can show up to Walgreens and buy Oxycontin or whatever ever meds can get them high in whatever quantity they wish then you'll have cut into cartel profits.
Oh, I understand. You're saying they need to be sold over the counter without a prescription. Well, that's certainly an interesting idea.
This will go faster than people expect. I would add bounty hunters to the mix.
We all can help....
Reporting for duty Sir.
Where to I sign?
o7
Most will run out on their own. What happens when they realize their rechargeable debit cards aren't getting recharged? If they are smart they'll be saving money for the time they leave. They cam live like kings on the deep states debt when the u.s.dollar collapses.
Agreed!
What about those FEMA camps they built for us. I know that's a cruel idea.
Like a bandaid baby…rip it right off. Won’t be comfy but it’ll be effective.
Oh wow this is awesome but the MSM is going to go RRRRHHEEEEEEHEHEHEEEE! 🤣🤣
Good detain them and search their bank records to see if they're being paid by foreign nations/groups and charge them with treason for aiding and abetting the enemy.
Can't wait to see 🤯
100mil. I think the deception is larger than we realize. Think of how much they’ve altered our politics using illegal migration.
E-verify with heavy fines for employers with illegals on payroll and no welfare, SNAP, etc. for non-citizens (green card holders included) and most will self deport.
Only 11m? Those are rookie numbers. Come on, Trump, bring your A game.
I want deportations of HLB1 workers too. There is no need for them. Hire American.
Amen BMSB! Couldn't agree more on all your points fren!
We wouldn't have a problem if the companies were forced to stop laying off all the citizens with years of experience. You know - the ones that have made their way up with promotions and raises only to get laid off and replaced with an H1B foreigner working for peanuts.
Stop ALL H1B Visas and that won't happen anymore. It will end up similar to all the old COBOL programmers that had to be brought back when they realized nobody else knew any of that.
11 million is no number to scoff at. And is probably the best number he can accurately say without being honestly called out for bullshit.
Only 3 million came forward in the 1986 amnesty debacle and there were very likely WAY more here that didn't trust the deal. People are estimating 10-15 million came in under Biden so far.
Even with that idiotic deal CONgress floated where they would stop at 5,000 a day that comes to 1.825 million each year they wanted to just let in. Keep in mind hoards of them would still take a stroll across the river. If they thought 5k a day was low enough to appease us then they know the actual number. Even the NYT said there were over 2.4M apprehensions last year and you know they are released into the US, right? That also doesn't count the gotaways. Hint - I'd bet the actual number is at least twice, or more.
11 million would actually be a blessing. Years ago they were estimating over 15 million. I'd say at least 30 million by now.
Right now the invasive hordes are led to believe the borders are wide open. So they organize and travel.
We make it clear that you cross our border, you get rounded up and sent back unceremoniously with lasting consequences.
America will stop being a magnet for illegals if we get the messaging right.
God bless and protect that man.
Charge them all for the cost and deport them all. Only freebies should be American Citizens.
My plan for years is to round them up, chain gang them to the border picking trash to earn their daily bread and water, work them to build the wall, with them ending on the south side when it’s completed.
Efficient, cost effective, and a deterrent to any others thinking of coming illegally.
Close to what I said earlier this year. I want them cleaning their way south from wherever they were caught until they reach the border. They didn't just trash the border area - they did the same wherever they ended up.
This. My county was pristine. These people just throw bags of household trash from their vehicles. Pigs.
'Cool Hand Luke's style. If this were the norm people would never come in...
Elect him NOW!
https://twstalker.com/TIME/status/1785330773014278328
He is LITERQLLY HITLER
We already have FEMA camps. Instead of housing illegal entries in hotels, house them there. The immigration judges can hear their cases right there and expedite deportations.
Yes!
HES LITERALLY HITLER HES GOING TO BUILD CONCENTRATION CAMPS REEEEE!!!!
Meet the 4th PsyOps Group. TIME.
https://greatawakening.win/p/17t1alFD5L/new-video-from-4th-psyops-time/c/
Well fire me up and let's go!!!!
LAND👏🏼 BACK👏🏼 go make Mexico and Israel great again!
How about we enforce E-Verify nationwide, and tax southbound Western Union type money transfers at 50%. Problem mostly solved and mass self-deportation takes place. Am I wrong?
He should use local sheriffs, the US Marshall service, and the regular Army.
The local Sheriff and a US Marshal deputize a whole platoon of infantry (As both local Sheriff's deputies and US Marshalls). This gives them plenty of manpower and the highest law enforcement in the local jurisdiction with legal jurisdiction outside of the local county (through the Marshal deputization).
This would also bypass the Posse Comitatus act.
The # of white people are now dropping in real numbers. we are now down to 1990 levels. Yet U.S. population is exploding. The replacement is here.
Agreed...
Billing their home nations for the trouble too .
👏
Just enforce the laws. It's a crime to overstay your visa. It's a crime to enter illegally, etc. It's also a crime to use fake or stolen identification.
Treat them with the same repercussions ordinary citizens would get and they will self-deport! We know where they live. Let them know the evidence of the crimes they have committed we have, and let them know how long they have to flee before they are arrested and tried (and then deported).
You can't imagine the sheer numbers of them that have fake or stolen SSNs but file taxes with an ITIN, but report W2 income with the SSN. They are filing not to get a refund - they have ZERO withholding. They are getting $$$ back, frequently claiming many dependents who don't even live in the USA.
ITINs are issued to people who are not eligible for a SSN in order for them to file and pay taxes. We have a number for them, which is hilarious. It's illegal to be here but hey, since your here... pay some taxes! (Which of course is NOT what they do!)
Stolen SSN, fake IDs, etc... all crimes a citizen would do hard time for.
Yes....so much to clean up!
Its a start... keep going
Let's go.
Anchor children next
Do it!!!
Why wait for deportations? We the citizens have the power to make this Country so hostile to the invaders that they'll self deport. Would you stay in a country where 80 million were openly shouting abuse at you wherever you went and surrounded the hotels and shelters you were living in?
I don't know about anyone else but where I live they built 2 ridiculously large buildings with a few hundred loading dock doors. I see these type of buildings being erected all over the country through Concerned Citizens Telegram account. No signs for space available or rent or anything and there all sitting vacant. The one by me has been finished over 6 months ago now. That may be there future purpose? Who knows.......
We haven't seen anything like this in our area.