If youve been reading Q since Oct 2017, you know what I mean
Edit to clarify--what I mean is there is a Q way of speaking and this lacks it.
Ok eg this stood out immediately: Use your logic
Tell me why this is not Q like
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Yup. phrases like: "Use your logic"...Never used by Q. "logical thinking" is seen over 2 dozen times, plus a few "simple logic" or "reconcile using logic", which aptly applies in this case. This is a ploy to divide the Anons.
It still portends big things to come very soon.
Why would the Cabal play the "imposter Q" card unless they're taking fire?
It'd be better to never play that card at all, in my opinion.
I'm 50/50 still. Next week's events might make things a little bit clearer as to who/what this Q is.
Yeah and Im pretty much 50/50 too but def going to looking critically after a year and a half.
I dont put it past them to play a card, stupidly especially after an enormous victory like RvW.
It also could be neither Q nor cabal, but a loony site owner.
I think real Q posted 6/24.
My first wife was 'tarded... she's a pilot now!
Cautiously optimistic, with discerning scrutiny, going forward.
Same....
They know time is almost up for them
Options are running low
Is the Cabal the only entity with a justifiable interest in manipulating Q supporters and the capability of doing so through the chan?
Not everybody with hostile intentions are on the same side against you. Just like how not every sympathetic voice is necessarily “on your side.” The world is far more complicated than that.
It would take a lot of resources for someone to hijack the tripcodes.
I'm outright dismissing any which don't bear the original tripcode at the moment, as everyone should until further verification. The TOR posts should be ignored until proven otherwise.
This is not the first time they've attempted to dupe us with fake Q posts, but it is the first where there has been monkeying with the tripcode salt.
Q is posting on 8kun. 4Chan effectively kicked him off when the mods refused to provide tripcode protections. Selection of mods was thought to be more secure on 8kun
I never made that claim.
Consider the landscape. If this was just like any other fake Q, why the media coverage? This time is different because it caused the MSM to expend resources to announce Q's supposed return with mainstream articles.
https://www.google.com/search?q=q+returns&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjopKjJsNP4AhWyQzABHWj2DdkQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1920&bih=955&dpr=1
The Cabal, specifically, have proven a financial interest in promoting these Q posts.
So, yes... There is hostile intent behind these posts from the same group of people behind all MSM outlets. That's the Cabal I'm referring to -- the same 6 companies behind all National media outlets.
It would take a lot of resources for some people. Not everyone.
I can’t imagine why anyone would think that. Moderator selection is as simple as clicking a button. There is no formal process for moderator applications beyond what the site administrator has decided.
So Q and Q supporters trusted Watkins to provide moderator protection worthy of something as important as the Plan? Why? Who on earth would trust him for such an important task?
Are chans really too difficult for the Q Team to have set up their own, that they fully controlled and secured? We wouldn’t be dealing with this problem right now if Q wasn’t relying on the 8chan administrator as his gatekeeper.
I’ve discussed this before. The outside world, the media, and so forth are not concerned about Q or his predictions. Very few people from the outside even know what those predictions are.
The outside world keeps an eye on Q people because they worry what happens when the Plan fails to come to fruition.
Lie or not, Q-adjacent beliefs are considered partly to blame for Jan 6th by the outside world. Everyone knows what the “ammo box” is.
If the Q team never shows up to execute all these alleged pedophilic Satanist cannibals, do Q people give up and consider that maybe they were misled, and that these politicians, while despicable, may not be responsible for what Q and Trump suggested?
If not, then THAT is why the media is going to breathlessly report on the Q movement, rather than Q’s words. Because Q’s words are less important to the outside world than the actions and influence of the people who believe the story he told.
We don't know. There's been no clear answer to that question, from Q or any other. On 8chan, Q trusted CM (CodeMonkeyZ, Ron Watkins) enough to pat him on the back:
https://qalerts.app/?n=474
u/#q474
Q only required mods not have any operational control over the thread.
So long as the BO kept his nose clean, there seemed to be no issue.
If Q themselves set it up, there would be no anonymity. Q can't have a paper trail to function. Plausible Deniability must be maintained. If Q were a Military Operation, revealing certain details about the government would be treason, regardless of clearance level. That's why the Chans were the chosen platform to begin with, because they allowed full anonymity and laxness in censorship.
Q has made only a few predictions, and the vast majority of them very early on. The majority of Q posts are questions which demand Anons find answers for themselves. If Anons make predictions, they aren't Q's predictions.
Look for yourself. Read Q's last 3000 posts and spot a bonafide prediction with a set date. All this talk of dates "coming and going" are BS. Just because something hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it won't happen. I'm tired of people using that same failed argument of "none of Q's predictions come true." Which ones? Give me a few to reference.
The truth is, no one bothers to read the posts to verify whether Q has made a single prediction. The argument is a fabrication of the "Qanon" strawman the MSM push.
Do you know the phrase "Military is the only way?"
How many times has Q ever said that phrase?
https://qalerts.app/?q=military+is+the+only+way
ZERO times. Yet it's thrown around here like bread and butter.
The only reference that comes close is this one:
https://qalerts.app/?n=26
Every time I see someone say "Military is the only way" I know for a fact they are listening to the MSM strawman, not actually referring to Q posts. Q has ALWAYS said TRANSPARENCY is the only way. Not the military.
https://qalerts.app/?q=transparency+is+the+only+way
That people are still falling for it is starting to piss me off, honestly.
That still doesn't answer my question:
"Why NOW?"
Why are the media choosing NOW to cover Q's return, when there have been previous "returns" from imposters since his absence?
What story did Q tell? Honestly, tell me what you think, because I have no idea what you think Q has said, so I cannot confirm or deny your stance's validity on the matter.
FINISH HIM
That is extraordinarily suspicious to me, to both avoid any answer to the obvious question while praising the guy everyone is suspicious of.
But since Watkins apparently maintained admin control of 8chan beyond that of Q, then Q had no way of enforcing this. Did Q trust, but forget to verify?
I'm sorry, but I just plain don't accept this argument.
Chans are not complicated pieces of software. They are not hard to set up. And it's not hard for any group with experience and resources to set up a secure website that protects the identity of its owners. This community believes that governments routinely set up false flags and other fronts to conceal their involvement in secret operations.
Are you really telling me that the Q Team, despite having been pulled from these same government and military officials, lacks the expertise to create a site with anonymous ownership? That our digital soldiers have to rely on the expertise of Watkins for their security?
That's... a shockingly poor assessment of the Q Team's technological capabilities, even beyond what I would suggest.
The predictions are absolutely there, but they aren't falsifiable. Which is why nobody can directly disprove Q: "disinformation is necessary" pretty much means that anything you don't like from Q World, you can toss out as probably irrelevant.
And since deltas are apparently allowed to be considered valid, then Q can say, "midterms are safe" (1197: 4/19/18), have that prediction fail, and then afterward say, "Oh, I was talking about 2022, not the 2018 election that was coming up when I made that prediction” (2620: 12/12/18).
The fact is that if you accept a prediction on the basis that it will EVENTUALLY come true, without knowing anything about HOW or WHEN it will come true, or what specific events will prove that it's happening, then you're allowed to wait literally forever for the Plan and still never be proven wrong.
I could come visit you on your deathbed in however many decades it would be, and you could still technically jab at me that I haven't proven Q's predictions wrong. It just might be operating on a 17 year delta.
Which is why Q seems to me to require faith, and I don't really like faith in my research movements.
Actually, I already made this argument for you. :)
https://greatawakening.win/p/15IXpKkAgj/x/c/4OZqiNb1XPz
I did answer your question, but I'll be clearer.
The media is watching you, not Q. They care about the Q community.
And due to the trip codes and such, the Q community is far more trusting of this particular variation of Q than previous returns.
The media is reporting on it because the Q people think it's news, and as this board has fondly said, you are the news now. What you think about Q's return IS news, and lots of people think he's returned. Which means lots of people think the Plan is about to kick off, which means the media is going to be interested in reporting on those people.
When I was a kid, I remember watching a doomsday cult on the news. They had sold their possessions, said goodbye to their family, and smugly told everyone else they were going to hell.
So of course the news cameras were rolling when the prophesized doomsday came and went. Everyone wanted to see the faces of the believers.
The cameras are pointed at you because the news wants to see your face when you're proven wrong, just as badly as everyone here wants to see me and people like me when I'm proven wrong.
Most generally, Q not only supported Trump's allegations of a Deep State working specifically against him and his role in fighting them, but promised an inevitable victory. Most generally.
But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what I believe about Q's posts. It matters what the Q community does with those posts. Q never talked much about COVID or the vaccine, considering how huge it a deal it became. Q never really discussed biolabs in Ukraine being the first shots in the hot war against the Cabal.
So why are people talking about these things here as if Q endorsed them?
Probably because if they ONLY stuck to the stuff Q talked about directly, then it would appear that the world quite moved on without Q. If Q never talked about COVID, then was he surprised by COVID? Was this not accounted for in the Plan?
I don't see a strong interest in exploring that theory here. But perhaps I'm wrong.
Q absolutely did allude to action in Ukraine.
He laid out a roadmap several times, with space for events yet to be announced:
https://qalerts.app/?n=4620
u/#q4620
https://qalerts.app/?n=4688
u/#q4688
https://qalerts.app/?n=4822
u/#q4822
There are more than two players here. Just because it is not Q does not mean it is the cabal. Some players have interests we may not yet know about. I remain skeptical until clear proofs surface. Do your own research and look in places outside of your usual sources.
"This is a play to divide the anons".
And you are playing your part.
Btw the phrase is anons. The term " the anons" is NEVER used by actual anons.
👌👊
My take is the term “the anons” imply a someone from outside the anon community.
I dont think Dragon was playing a role in dividing, whatsoever, neither am I, or really anyone much from this discussion.
We can have differing opinions on our caution level of returning Q posts as we see what time tells, and still be united overall. Why be rude
I said ploy, not play. Also, pointing out it is a ploy does not make it less true, even if it does seem to make me a de facto participant. However my aim is not to divide but to unite, and calmly discussing differences of opinions does just that. Should I just stay silent so as to not "rock the boat"?. I believe this movement is mature enough to withstand healthy debates.
I dont think your comment was divisive. And IF there was trickery going on, any Q posing, actually it prob would be a ploy to divide and cause trouble.
Don't let some suspicious and judgmentall woman who likes to attack the anons bother you.
SHE is the one who is divisive.
Usually, people refer to anons with no article.
But a comment and a commenter don't become "divisive" FFS, just because of placing the article "the" before anons. What complete nonsense.
Cf. "the white hats," "the patriots", the Republicans, etc.
/werdnerd
Why bother with arguing? You’re better off cataloguing all u/usernames attacking you without reasonable discourse in a notepad.
Amen anon
touche
We need DJT and this Q do a 0-Delta drop to validate comms. This has not occurred yet. Keep a keen eye on DJTs TRUTH account for this signal
Good point fren. I am not biting until there is more credibility established. When Q went dark, my understanding is that "they" had to go dark because it became compromised. That is why I have reservation that Q would show up now. The so called posts don't sound right. There are too many out there that would love to use Q for a variety of agendas. That has always been the danger. So I am going to wait on the sidelines until I can see what shakes out.
What do you mean compromised? Yes I’m new here. Been reading daily since the election. Please show grace.
Q had a huge target on the back and plenty of resources were expended trying to bring it down. Q moved from 4chan early on to 8chan. When 8chan went down and changed to 8kun CodeMonkey had to fortify the platform. 8chan was down for weeks. When Q came back online there was verification to validate the changed trip code so we knew that it was Q. So far that has not happened with this new appearance. There were several actors gunning for the 8kun platform and when CodeMonkey left it was around the same time Q went dark. I think that is where some of the speculation started that Ron was Q. I knew something was up and ran across some info on some of the farther out areas of the web. There was chatter about a compromise. I didn't understand all the tech speak to know exactly what had happened. So you can take it for what it is worth - or not.
It was a good run while it lasted and Q served to teach many how to do research for themselves. In many ways some of that spirit has been lost and I wish it would come back. Q was never about what the narratives made it out to be. Q at least for me was a pointer towards where to start looking. Anything found along the way was up to the researcher to make up their own mind about. The rest was disinformation to throw the lurkers off. Some made a movement out of Q almost to the point of religious fanaticism. That is where it went off the rails somewhat. For a newbie, some of those Q posts have some great information and data points to jump off from. It is about the research. It might be worth the investment of time if you are new to all of this. That is what anons do because we are the news now. It is not about a social club or a political movement - it is about knowing what the hell is going on in the world so we can do something about it. Happy hunting.
This is a great answer. There is a fine line to draw between fanatics and cultism. However, Q could never be a cult bc it requires critical thinking. I agree, the purpose has been served. Many more are awake. I was unfamiliar with transitioning from 4 Chan to 8 Chan and 8 kun. I knew Ron was suspect in some of this. Thanks for your time and effort explaining.
You are most welcome fren and thank you for your kind words. I worry about people just coming into this awakening that did not have the benefit of going through the journey with Q. All they have now are the narratives that border on cultism like you stated. The truth is buried in there somewhere and needs to be drawn out from all the noise - just like Q taught us. Sounds like you will be okay because you already know this. Welcome aboard.
exactly
Obligatory reminder that Q != a single person. Therefore, expect writing styles to differ.
Q Post 15, Oct 31 2017 (aka not long before Al-Waleed aka +++ is taken out)
It has been agreed upon in retrospect that this Q post was written by Saudi Arabian Patriots. Wizards and Warlocks is a Comms term involving SA that goes back to the 80s, and the Satanic Evil POS is obvious given the Nov 2017 events.
Background on the 80s Saudi usage of Wizards/Warlocks?
https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2021/08/29/the-greatest-american-hero-wizards-and-warlocks/#Wizardsw
I never put this together but I wonder if that post was written by Kash?
He wrote himself into his book as a wizard...
Posted Before, I will post this again.
Excellent, I agree. Well said
And also FTR I only trust God. And wisdom comes from the fear of the Lord, and I agree, as you said, the bible. Exercising discernment is wise, critical analysis is wise. Never relying on man, those I see and those who post online that I dont see, is also wise. I trust God, alone.
Agreeing with Q? Good. Me too. The only time Q gave specifics about "trust the plan" was a bible link referencing Gods plans for us. Q also repeatedly urged readers to learn how to put on and maintain the Whole Armor of God which allows us to remain standing despite the devils schemes ie the 24/7 psyop attacks on hearts and minds.
Who the hell downvoted this? I want names!
All good, if noone is offended are you really saying anything important?
I've always wondered,
Nazis have their salute to hail Hitler.
What do grammar Nazis salute/hail?
Adolf Grammar . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Adolf_Grammar_School
Here's some names. Bob. Johnny. Adrian. Oscar. Jennifer. Take your pick. No charge.
Or even whose side.
i fixed it
definite grammar nazi here. thanks
When proper trip-code Q starts posting stuff like this...
Know your PLACE
[INCOMING]
[HRC WH] [BHO WH] [HUNTER-ROLE MODEL]
Trust THEM
Epstn killed HMSF
BABIES GOOD [tasty]
Think GGL browser [Adrenal]
Think safety (effective) [JAB GET NOW] Boosters=Yummy
LOCKDOWN EMINENT / WHO BENEFITS?
We the people (Gvt control)
[TRUST GOVMNT]
OBEY ME [your cult LDR]
Remain ASLEEP
Q
Then I think it's time to get a bit worried.
Underrated comment, by far! Ha!
I think all these "doesnt sound like Q" posts are funny
I havent seen many, I think only one other but why funny? There should be critical analysis of a sudden Q re-emergence
Just hilarious to think people are going to discount him by tone.....apparently there have been tone switches in the past...maybe different guys are posting
Maybe the tone is MEANT to be different as we move to another phase of operations....
Im saying critcal anaysis is good, lets find the truth.,,,I dont think that we will find any definitive proof in tone though.......
Yes.
There has been at least one sort of AI analytic run over all the Q posts looking at diction, verbiage used, sentence structure, timestamps on posts, whats cited and how it is cited and the other properties indicating a leak of tones, characteristics etc of specific people behind the postings. It concluded that there were multiple people posting under the Q moniker. Which given the importance of the operation ought always have been the assumption - an elite team under perhaps a rotating-shifts sort of work schedule rather than a single person that is also a single point of failure.
If thats still the case now, or new people have joined the ranks, I wouldn't be surprised. Nor would it indicate a compromise of the mission if so.
I think most reading Q since beginning understood Q to be a team. The team varied in tone, but some things were consistent. This possibly fits wiithin that, I totally can see that as possible. But it lacks that still, and could just be bc of a long hiatus.
Yeah I guess that is why I dont put much stock in the tone thing and wont spend time on that aspect of it.....
Suspect we will know with strong confidence either way before long though...
But that's one reason why there has to be solid re-verification, especially after such a gap
I remember that. If I recall correctly somebody was trying to figure out who Q really was and they did some analysis and said it pointed to 2 different people, but they didn't specify who. sauce
Im with you, I want truth! And FTR to everyone I cant say its not Q, I could be wrong, but wanted to note that the tone os different.
And thats what I meant by reading since beginning, youre right there have been tone changes. This one Im looking at critically thru a lens of a year and half later--not the time to change tone. And the 'use your logic' jumped out. I cant get past that one bc logic/logical is a word used many times--and its never 'your' logic. It is logic.
"A year and a half later".
1700 days from his first post. Eight months and 17 days since his last post. The same day Trump held a rally 17 miles outside of Quincy whose official nickname is Qtown.
Did anyone watch the Trump rally? Maybe he made a "Q" or pointed to someone wearing "Q" or what about the guy that was usually in the background at rally's?
ok fair enough....
Right?? This is a blatant shill wave. Why this crap is stickied is beyond me.
Just look at all the doubting comments. I only recognize a few of the account names.
ALL ASSETS DEPLOYED.
I think you have a pattern of sounding funny :)
Q is a team not a person.
I know.
How do YOU know Q "never used tor"?
Got a source and link. If not, why pretend a fact free guess is a fact? Why not ask questions instead?
You know Cozette, youre right. I stand corrected. I never noticed before, likely bc when posts were regular there wasnt as much scrutiny. My bad. But thats why discussions are good and I actually do hope to learn more from replies.
So I looked and actually the ID with zeros has been used. If zeros = tor, as apparently it does, then a quick search using 00000 brings up previous posts with that ID.
Deleting above comment bc I said something as fact that was erroneous. My bad, deleting so no confusion
The one thing I noticed about post 4958 is the post was made after the event in question, not before.
FYI: I tried posting the q-post and it doesn't seem to work for the new ones.
It's like Yoda all of a sudden speaking like Obi-Wan.
The cadence, the vernacular,... It doesn't feel the same.
"It doesn't feel the same".
Being unaware of the many different Q voices/personalities involved since 2017 suggests asking questions rather than posting guesses would be a better use of limited time and energy.
Yes. And of the many different Q voices/personalities involved since 2017, there are many references using the word logic and logical. None use possessive with it. Logic is always referenced objectively.
https://qalerts.app/?q=logic
Yes. There are several differences in words, cadence and sentence structure from the earliest posts to later ones. I've sorted out 2, maybe 3 people at times have been the voice behind the drops.
Would be cool to see your analysis.
Very familiar with all the different voices of Q.
Still doesn't feel the same to me. Doesn't mean it's not Q, at all.
I take it that the tides have turned, the message is different in that we are on more of the offensive and less in the "need to learn, discern, and wake the Hell up!!" phase.
Q has had many voices as anyone who has followed Q since 2017 knows very well. But you dont?
Preying on newbie normies?
lol not preying, quite the opposite.
You seem to be trying to drive this "point" a lot, that Q has many voices that's why the cadence has changed and I'm not buying it. You're a very suspicious account.
Sounds pretty much like Q to me. I've been following since July 2018, so maybe I missed the earliest stuff. And Q went through many phases with obviously different writers. But this is very Q-like. If this were a divider, the posts would be far out there. This is not. This is same old stuff. Just pointing fingers to what we should research. Of course be wary. That's what Q taught us to do!!!
Agreed
Good thing we can call this out without being labeled as concern trolls, glowies, etc.
Something is not right. There is a disturbance in the force. I am getting different vibes, energy signatures.
I am suspicious and alert.
100%. You know and I know. Anons who have been here since day 1 when Q started posting are taught to question things and use logic and critical thinking. Automatically saying "DONT QUESTION IT, ITS THE REAL Q, OR U ARE A CONCERNFAG" reeks of someone with bad intentions.
Even the Bible tells us to question things.
I’d give him (or her) the benefit of the doubt… to be fair, Q hasn’t posted for almost 2 years. Styles change. He’s out of the previous flow. Only way we will know 100% is when future starts proving past again. Patience my friends
I dont give anyone the benefit of doubt, my gosh no. But I love your user name.
One Truth Delta from Trump can answer all of this.
Do you not trust trip codes?
Have you not been keeping up?
No, because they can be manipulated.
Intelligent anon spotted. o7
Q is a team. If writing style is different it can just mean it is a different member of the team making the post. Could even be a new team member. people act like nothing could ever change. Used to be less than ten. Could be a dozen now. Could be a hundred (unlikely). Nobody knows.
Well...
You may not remember this but Q at one time was that Patriot Soapbox guy. He got caught red handed in a livestream. He was also the board owner and publicly retired from "Q". Then someone tried verifying with a watch and pen that didn't match the original ones.
Q served its purpose. We no longer need Q.
agree
Agreed but it sure would be cool to watch him/them freak out the deep state along the way.
Still gonna read the posts for anything useful.
Q’s first year or so was awesome. Huge digs from chans and interesting info.
The last couple years was mostly a rehash and links to things easily available.
I want THAT First year Q back. I’m not saying the Real Q left after the first year.. just saying the drops were more intense.
Im still gonna read them too!
2018 Q THE BEST YEAR That was one heck of a ride
I have only been here since the election so I wasn't around when Q was posting but I have read a lot of the posts..The first thing I thought when I read today's post and even the two previous ones that it did not read like Q. I think Q posts are often confusing, cryptic and take some deep thinking to grasp. These new posts are simplistic and honestly asking questions that long time anons and researchers would have already considered.
I have an easy solution. Watch what’s happening. Don’t be distracted. the future proves the past we have everything we need. Enjoy the show. This week was epic. I don’t need a new Q drop to see what is happening and I know NCSWIC
Cheers!
Noting observations certainly doesnt = distraction. Also totally agree we dont need a Q post, however its good to discuss when we note things that seem off and this, IMO, seemed off
Just have to be patient, folks. Reserve judgement. Some very, very smart people looking into this. Right now I'm paying attention to the new drops, but taking them with a grain of salt until the dust settles.
I've been reading since 2018. I don't know what you mean. Can you elaborate?
There is just a way Q 'sounds' and its not here. Im not saying its not Q, FTR, Im just saying it doesnt read like Q.
But having read since 2017 we'd remember there are subtle changes in the Q flair/sound/feel for lack of a better word--and they still were Q consistent. This feels artificial, imo. But I could be wrong so go by your own gut
Does anyone here remember Caught D’Handed (spelling) at the Gateway Pundit forums? …..he was an impersonator of sorts. Except for his calling people he consider trolls as “fat boy” etc.
They did mimic it, very much so. Or it was part of Q and my critical scrutiny is wrong. But for me, I guess bc I still remember Q from the beginning and the changes here and there, this one doesnt sit right. Specifically, the 'your' logic part (possessive) doesnt fit any Q posting, previously, tho logic is a common word used.
I found the addition of "your" to be powerful and much needed.
Not saying one way or the other because in the grand scheme of things, we are no one compared to God… Compared to satan, we are everything and our God given spirit inside of each of us holds the truth we are all seeking. The number 17 in the Bible represents final victory over evil. Trust the plan… there is only one plan, God’s plan. We are here to carry out God’s plan. How, I am not sure because some days when I read His word, I get the feeling we should “fight”, other days (like today), My spirit felt like it was told in 2 Chronicles that we need not do anything because this battle is God’s. One thing I do know is every day, one message my spirit hears that never changes is that we only need to be loving towards one another… that message seems like it would be easy, but I find it very hard most days (especially given the evil that surrounds us). To get to what I was going to say (because obviously my spirit just took over for a second, it is much wiser than my brain, I should listen to it more.) Is that perhaps “your” is just Q preparing us to figure things out on our own, much like we prepare our children for life as adults. The Bible says tech them when they are young, and when they are old, they will not depart from His ways. There is a whole lot of years between YOUNG and OLD! Those are the learning by mistake and correction years, we all suffer through them. If you TRUST “your” spirit, you will always be on the path of His PLAN.
What I am getting at is this: Yes, no one knows.
And if I see an anomaly I will note it for critical scrutiny, at a place such as GA where Q related discussions take place. Since it is, as literally everyone knows, a psywar.
Just a thought. Ive seen speculation here that Q is a quantum computer and Q+, ect. Are the people who manage the computer. Could it be possible that this post feels diffrent because it was not made with the computer but instead an actual person?
Just a thought. Ive seen speculation here that Q is a quantum computer and Q+, ect. Are the people who manage the computer. Could it be possible that this post feels diffrent because it was not made with the computer but instead an actual person?
Today
I saw only one for jun 29. Here is is tho
https://qalerts.app/?n=4958
Is 4958 the misdirection or is this post the misdirection?
I guess its me. Dang. You caught me, here to misdirect. No, king, I wouldnt call my post misdirection. Nor do I mean 4958 is, either. Tho it could be a site owner who is known to be a little, quirky, just having fun for his own odd reasons. Or it may be the OG Q.
I may be a little too generous with credit here but I think I can post my cautionary thoughts without concern that anyone will run with them as their own.
Also, and maybe someone can explain it to me so I can understand it--why the zeros? Is the explanation that Q is using tor?
Isn't that because the poster was using ToR?
Thats what I thought I understood they were saying.
Thank you Jonathan for the reply. I so want to understand this one bc for me personally, if its being said that Q is posting again but this time with tor--tor, really? So now Q uses the controversial that some say is a clowns in america browser?
There are enough questions about the latest postings to be cautious about any claims it is the genuine Q.
Let's wait for some proof's.
I agree.
Q changed style many times. Go back and read drops from the beginning.
I have read them all. Since Oct 2017. And thats why the possessive use of 'your' logic, stood out immediately. A quick search of posts confirms it was never used. No, in all the times Q changed styles, this commonly used word was used objectively every time.
*not saying its not og Q. Just saying it did not read as og Q.
yes I noticed that too. and think perhaps it's our Q testing us, see if we're paying attention.
I got what your saying now. And yea that is off.
Correct. It's long been established this is fake and gay
While I agree a bit in premise here. This is assuming that Q is one person.
If there are multiple operators within the Q structure is it possible for comms to look different at times?
Depends on who is posting that day. Each person has a different style. I'd noticed that since 2017 when I started reading them. That's my thinking anyway.
I could use Q saying "use logic" but not "use your logic"..
Back in the earlier days, I asked a question I had struggled with regarding Q’s credibility.
If Q represented a highly-sophisticated, detailed Plan, and part of that Plan is to wake people up through the Q drops, then why exactly would Q trust this to 8chan, of all places?
I know that some users here see that site as a haven of geniuses whose autism is apparently a superpower, which is not exactly how I remember my time there.
But even beyond that, it’s a chan site. The security it provides is somewhat superficial and sufficient mostly for tricking people into thinking they’re anonymous. It was never that hard to create or manipulate a chan site.
So why did Q choose a site that could so easily be compromised? Do these digital supersoldiers lack the funding or expertise to anonymously start and manage their own secure site?
The answer I got back at the time from Q people?
“Q DID start his own site, or at least take it over. 8kun is controlled by Q. Watkins is controlled by Q. You’re a fucking idiot if you think Q would entrust his drops to a site outside of White Hat control.”
Well, years later, here we are, with Watkins not appearing to be under control, and the 8kun security and reliability problems now causing confusion about the true, verified Q.
Which is something that, two years ago, Q people assured me is impossible.
So, from this point in time, I have to examine the following possibilities:
Q is legitimate, but for some reason was unable to maintain control of his only valid means of communicating with his followers (“no outside comms”), due to a very foreseeable issue with Watkins owning the boards and manipulating them.
Q is legitimate, and “You are watching a movie with actors. Disinformation is necessary. Watkins is under control and you are being fooled by optics designed to cause the Deep State to expend yet more and more ammo.” I have a feeling this will be the preferred answer of some, but is non-falsifiable.
Q is legitimate, but didn’t honestly put much effort into the “communication with anons” because, since NCSWIC, Q drops are ultimately not that important. The Plan doesn’t require your participation or understanding, so Q didn’t care much that Watkins could potentially lock him out or impersonate him.
Q is not legitimate, because a legitimate military or intelligence operation would not entrust such an important component to the Plan to an outside source like Watkins if such a Plan actually existed. This would mean Q either is a 8kun admin manipulating things like time zones to create deltas, or just a random channer who had a enough lucky coincidences to fertilize years of confirmation bias.
Is there a different answer for my question now, or should I continue entertaining that Watkins and Q are playing a game that is confusing a greater number of people than Q supporters?
I hear you're from reddit. Give me a good reason why all discussion of Q was completely banned from there.
Whatever that explanation is, is the reason why 8chan was needed. Right?
Q's verification isn't by platform. Q is verified by the countless proofs and deltas they've provided. Q's model doesn't completely break if a previously secure platform becomes insecure, because it can be rectified with proofs and deltas.
The premise of Q necessitates plausible deniability (which can be found with 8chan in a way that cannot be found with other platforms).
I would define Q's premise as being military intelligence attempting to establish a backchannel to communicate with people, sidestepping any platform under cabal influence.
You can judge by the 1000s of articles written to "disprove" Q that the message has been widespread enough to be successful. In other words, 8chan served its purpose.
Is inconsequential and meaningless. "Q people" don't have the full picture. Anons don't speak for Q.
It is a logical fallacy that "Q people couldn't explain x, y or z" on some issue as a means to challenge Q's overall legitimacy.
The full set of possibilities of what could be happening are many. Off the top of my head, and feel free to insert an "or" between each point:
In any case, the problem with Q in general isn't verification. Q knows how to verify themselves. They've done so with photos in the past. All it takes is a one-minute delta between Q's post and Trump posting thereafter and the whole security and verification issue becomes a non-issue.
Q could literally post anywhere and it would be valid if they confirmed themselves. Q's self-imposed "only on 8chan" served the purpose of stopping others from mimicking Q off-platform and saying they were Q. Logically, this doesn't mean forever (Q had to move before off of 4chan).
All it would take is a few posts anywhere with a few one-minute-prior-to-Trump delta post and Q would reestablish themselves as legitimate.
The downside of 8chan being insecure is negligible, because it is easily rectifiable.
The current batch of Q posts haven't been verified to my satisfaction yet. The only ramification is I don't believe the recent Q posts ... its not the end of the world, nor does it negate all of Q's past posts.
It is a logical fallacy that "if anons can't explain a particular situation, it negates literally 1000s of other proof data points".
It is an absolute, irrefutable fact that Trump and Q have at a bare minimum coordinated posts in the past. There is absolutely no way to argue against that point, full stop.
It's ok to say "I don't know". I personally don't know what is going on with the current posts yet. I have a feeling I'll know soon enough.
That fact is completely divorced from whether or not past Q posts are legitimate.
In the past, Q posted a photo of McCain saying "in the news soon", and he was pronounced dead one month later literally to the minute.
It can't be inferred "Q isn't legit" because some explanation of some random thing about Q seems to be non-falsifiable. Q's legitimacy comes from literally thousands of deltas and various confirmations that stand on their own.
What is the ramification of us and "a greater number of people than Q supporters" being confused?
None?
Even if there were ramifications, sometimes the cabal wins a battle. The premise of Q seems to necessitate patriots not acting as millions are injured due to vaccines. How small is some confusion about Q's legitimacy on 8chan in comparison?
Q is strictly verified by the proofs they provide. Whether the current posts are from Q will need further verification for my own satisfaction.
Which is fine.
There is no ramifications to my being confused. Whatever current confusion there is doesn't negate Q's past proofs.
I unexpectedly ran out of time today to keep talking, but if you'd like, I'll try to come back later, since it looks like you have a lot of good stuff here.
Sure thing, see ya later.
I apologize if I miss anything; I’m doing this on mobile and am trying to hit the main points.
No, because I had nothing to do with the decision and didn’t fully agree with how it was handled.
My account is currently banned from about half of Reddit’s communities due to my participation in r/GreatAwakening.
No. 8chan predated the Reddit ban on Q stuff by several years.
I have never heard a reasonable explanation for why a team of digital supersoldiers had to rely on Jim Watkins and a fairly basic chan site for “plausible deniability.” Really? That’s the limit of their technological capability?
They don’t have the ability to set up a site and maintain their own anonymity without someone else’s basic chan site? And these are the guys fighting an enemy that can apparently launch FBI-funded mass murder through random delinquents without leaving a trace?
Also, plausible deniability is used to separate a person from the consequences of their actions, and is usually used in reference to legal culpability. If Q is doing this by the book, and the end result is a court system that is clean of corruption, then Q really has no consequences to worry about, if NCSWIC.
I’ve discussed my problems with using deltas to establish a connection between two prolific users of social media in response to political stories: Trump and Q. Having similar posting habits from similar time zones means that they’re both news junkies who post immediately about stuff they see on television, which would make deltas FAR less rare than people here assume.
I address two deltas specifically here in detail to demonstrate what I mean. Honestly, it seems Q tends to take credit for specific proofs only after it appears to have come true, never before.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15IXkm0awP/x/c/4OZqi9ZJhP5
It would be.
The problem is that every single falsifiable proof that I have examined in detail (like the two above) do not appear to be the strong evidence you believe. I have not seen a single slam dunk prediction from Q that makes me believe the “1,000’s” of other data points aren’t also potentially flawed.
From my own perspective, I’m being asked to assume that despite the proofs I’ve actually examined having problems, the other “1,000’s” I haven’t are definitely trustworthy, and therefore, there is an overwhelming amount of evidence that I am wrong.
It takes a long time to dissect a Q proof enough to convince you guys that it might not be proof. I wish I could get paid to look at Q proofs all day, but I don’t, and so until I see at least a few proofs that don’t just seem to be two news junkies posting from the same time zone, proofs are going to remain proof only for those who want to believe that Q’s Plan is real anyway.
I have no reason to reject Q. I lose nothing if he’s right. My evaluation of his evidence is subjected to nothing but justifiable skepticism over extraordinary claims.
Eh, that’s not necessarily true. The only people who support the notion of Q’s legitimacy are Q’s supporters, by definition. If there is an argument to be made proving Q, I would expect to find it among the people who call themselves Q Researchers.
If this is just a Q fan club, then yes, Q may be objectively right or wrong without your participation in the Plan having any meaning whatsoever, to our correct. In that case, Q is non-falsifiable, just like a religion.
Researchers never, ever, ever, talk in absolutes, ever. :)
Seriously, though, I’ve discussed before how easily Q and Trump can cross streams without requiring coordination. It’s certainly not impossible, and not even unreasonable.
I can and have argued against this full-stop declaration, and I would strongly encourage you to keep an open mind on EVERY possibility. I’m pretty sure Q would agree, even if it means he ends up being proven wrong.
Entirely possible, but also not falsifiable or testable. If you are wrong about Q and the Plan, what gives it away under this theory? How would you ever know if you were wrong if you’re just sitting around waiting for Q to show his hand while the world continues to spin?
Nah, that doesn’t jive with the notion that Q constantly pushed about this being done legally and perfectly. If Q has to rely on evidence they collected that could even superficially be struck down as having been collected illegally, then Q’s Plan is a lot more haphazard than makes sense.
May I add another possibility?
The original Q is back, but because of these new circumstances, you’re looking at him with a newly skeptical perspective and seeing him for who he actually always was.
That also seems to be a possibility worth discussing.
Would you mind telling me which photo specifically is the most proof-worthy? Many of them are Bigfoot-level blurry or of generic clouds. Possible proof, but almost impossible to verify, which makes it challenging proof to use.
Okay, so let’s dissect this for a second.
When Q posted that McCain would be “in the news soon,” let’s see how amazing that prediction was.
McCain was a former POTUS candidate who was a known Republican opponent of Trump, was openly dying of brain cancer, and had single-handledly shot down Trump’s healthcare reform attempt.
And I’m supposed to be mystified that the most famous Republican at the time besides Trump was predicted to be “in the news soon”?
He was in the news every day. We all knew he was dying. Nobody would have bet money against Q on that.
Also, down to the minute? Minute of what? McCain’s death? The announcement of McCain’s death? In what time zone? Through what media?
And why should I assume the extremely obvious, unremarkable prediction of “McCain being in the news” means something more from Q than someone else? Did anybody else anywhere on the internet make a prediction that McCain would “be in the news” that day? That hour? That minute?
Did you check? Or are you only looking for the confirmation in Q posts? Why aren’t you looking for deltas in HRC’s posts? Why not in Jim Gaffigan’s?
If they have deltas, that would therefore mean they’re also part of the Plan, if deltas are really that powerfully evidential. But people are only looking at Q.
Q asks you an important question in post 3689:
Good question, Q. To establish whether your deltas are mathematical coincidence or not, we would need to look at the posts of a large sample of political posters with similar posting habits and living in a similar time zone as Trump and other Americans. We need to ensure we all agree it’s impossible for these people to be “part of the Plan.”
Then we carefully analyze ALL of those posts for deltas.
Then we establish an average “accidental delta” rate. These are the deltas that happen just because two people post a lot at the same time about the same stuff. We have to make sure that we are giving our sample the same assumptions that Q gets in interpreting potential significant deltas (allowing months and years to pass, considering misspelling significant, etc).
That’s how many coincidences ARE mathematically possible. THAT is our baseline. We did it!
Now that we’ve done that research, we can measure Q’s deltas. How many, specifically?
Then, we take that result and measure it against the range of delta scores we got from our baseline.
THAT is how we can answer Q’s question.
It’s just going to take Q-levels of research into a couple of hundred political Twitter accounts. A dissection of tens of thousands of random posts that you know aren’t connected, as your control group.
This would be a big project, but would actually allow you to answer Q’s challenge mathematically, rather than just pointing to a pile of deltas and assuming it’s more than can happen by coincidence.
I’d definitely be interested in seeing such an analysis. It’s going to take a while, but if Q doesn’t really need you guys to understand what’s going on in order for the Plan to succeed, then it would be an excellent use of research time, in terms of proving a falsifiable claim.
You're assuming that military intelligence is so dumb they wouldn't have predicted the heavy-handed censorship, or a plan that was fallible if cabal-owned media predictably wouldn't cooperate.
There are two questions wound up in that statement, why the need for plausible deniability and why Jim Watkins.
What is the opposite of plausible deniability? Full disclosure? Imagine that, in WW2, the allies not only didn't secure their communications, but instead broadcast their every move to the enemy and what a disaster it would have been.
Regarding on Jim Watkins, Q doesn't "rely on him". Not at all. Military intelligence have devised a way to send us messages that are confirmed based on proofs provided. It's a robust system that can withstand bad actors inserting themselves in channels of communication.
Wouldn't it be silly to think that the plan to save the world would boil down to the performance of one individual? Q could reconfirm themselves anywhere on any platform they desire with a couple deltas or other significant proof.
Q drop 1706
https://qalerts.app/?n=1706
Jul 25, 2018 7:28:35 PM EDT
https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1033509124619681792
“Senator John Sidney McCain III died at 4:28pm on August 25, 2018. With the Senator when he passed were his wife Cindy and their family. At his death, he had served the United States of America faithfully for sixty years.”
Account for time zone. Exactly, to the minute.
Take for instance the generic clouds post you're talking about.
The proof isn't designed to prove that Q was real, or even that they were actually taken over North Korea.
The proof is that the photos are, in fact, sequential and taken from the same camera, by the same person, in the same plane.
That's all that proof was designed for. To confirm the continuity of Q through a trip code change, and that the old poster is the same as the new poster.
If HRC had predicted McCain would be in the news, and one month later he was pronounced dead, to the minute, you wouldn't consider him the latest Arkancide victim?
Other people haven't made the claim to be a backchannel for military intelligence.
I get your point, that Q is using methods of what fortune-tellers do, predicting vague things in a way they are certain to be confirmed, if enough predictions are made.
But there are too many coincidences that are too exact.
To be honest, I'm surprised you asked me about the "to the minute" with McCain. It sounded like you had never heard that before. If you haven't looked into that particular proof, it makes me wonder how many others you haven't fully checked out (being one of the most famous).
And do you still feel that way when you realize the time on the death certificate to the time of Q's posts are exactly one month, to the minute?
What fascinates me most is your complete certainty. I'm an odds kind-of-guy. Everything has varying levels of certainty. Like I don't think Q has came back, but I allow for the possibility they might be with further verification.
I might put that opinion at 75% certainty that the new Q isn't real, or rather uncertainty. Some things are unknowable.
I put Q's existence, as stated by Q, at 100% certainty of being "real", 95% of being a benevolent psyop, 90% that it's military intelligence operating as they state themselves to be.
But that remaining uncertainty has me prepping to take care of my family just in case military intelligence doesn't send the bad guys to Gitmo.
You being 100% certain that the Q and McCain are merely a coincidence, or 100% ruling out that Q is real ... doesn't appeal to me as being very wise based on what I've seen. There are too many coincidences.
Another random coincidence off the top of my head, there being a Q stocking in a whitehouse photo.
You can argue that Q may or may not be military intelligence. You cannot argue that Q coordinates with Trump and the whitehouse. There's no disputing that, only the implications of what Trump and Q coordinating means.
McCain died at 4:28PM MST. Arizona is in Mountain Standard Time.
Q's post was 7:28PM EDT, per your screenshot. 6:28PM CST, per my source, which is the same time.
4:28PM MST = 6:28PM EDT. Not 7:28PM EDT, when Q posted.
Not to the minute. They were one month, and one hour apart. It's stretching badly to call this a delta at this point.
Especially since Q's only prediction was "McCain would be in the news." No duh.
The answer is yes, I did know this already. I was hoping the questions I asked would encourage you to double-check your research on this. As I said, I have yet to see a single proof that didn't have these kinds of problems.
Given that, would you like me to respond to the rest of your post, or would you like to address this first?
After googling AZ time and NY time, there's a 3 hour difference. (NY 10:23pm, AZ 7:23pm), are you arguing there was daylight savings at the time or some such?
And sure, respond to all the points.
I do not claim that McCain being in the news is anything special. The focus of this particular data point, that swims in a sea of other confirming data points, is the delta.
Again with the odds. I didn't even realize until I just looked it up now that Arizona has two different timezones. Even if McCain died in a part of the state that was in the different timezone, I see the odds are more likely that it was an attempted delta that failed due to human fallibility of an individual not knowing the intricacies of AZ's timezone situation.
I need to check into this some more when I have some time. It seems there may be some conflicting information regarding EDT, and I’ve gotten different results on different calculators with the same conversion. I will check back in tomorrow after I’ve looked, but you’re free to beat me to it.
I made a 2nd reply to you with my conclusion that it was, in deed, 3 hours. Cornville AZ, where McCain died, doesn't recognize daylight savings, died in August when East Coast observes daylight savings, therefore the difference would be an additional hour.
Tell me if I'm wrong.
Difference between EST and MST is 2 hours.
Daylight savings starts March 13 and ends November 6.
During daylight savings, east coast loses 1 hour.
Arizona doesn't follow daylight savings, so the time there remains exactly the same during daylight savings.
McCain died August 24, 2018 which is during when the rest of the nation uses daylight savings, while Arizona does not.
That would make it officially recognized as a 3 hour time difference when McCain died in August?
Because east coast would have rolled their clock back an additional hour when Arizona would not ... at least part of Arizona.
Cornville, where McCain died, appears to be in this area https://www.timetemperature.com/tzus/time_zone.shtml marked as "Mountain Time Zone No DST Observed".
Interesting. I don’t want you to feel like I’m dodging if this is correct and I don’t immediately capitulate on Q’s prophecy, because whether it’s off by an hour or not, I’m still not exactly certain what narrative I’m supposed to believe as a result. That Q knew to the minute when an elected official would die of apparently natural causes?
There aren’t a whole lot of non-villains that would have foreknowledge of something like that, so I’m curious what the next step is. It’s not exactly a strong proof, but what do you want me to believe it’s proof of?
But I definitely want to look into this time zone thing, because your argument doesn’t look wrong on its face, and I want to see if it pans out when I have access to something less mobile.
I believe McCain was cut a deal, to give testimony against the cabal. His incentive for cooperating is to maintain his legacy as a legit senator, but still given the death sentence by a military tribunal.
A date was chosen for his execution, and he was given a certain period of time to play it off as cancer.
McCain wore a medical boot that famously switched legs. Anons speculated it was an ankle monitor, preventing him from escaping.
There's probably no "next step" in his story. I don't think his participation with the cabal will ever be fully revealed in public, as per the deal.
I think you could be right about the time zone situation, or at least convincing enough that I will defer to you on it for now. Interesting catch.
Which leaves us where I said, that the evidence you have is that Q suggested McCain would be “in the news” when he was in the news every single day. And that vague prediction was one month, apparently to the minute, before McCain’s death, which you consider to be highly suspicious.
Your suggestion is that the most reasonable explanation for this connection is that Q is responsible for, or at least knowledgeable about, McCain’s secret execution, in lieu of his death being from his publicly known brain cancer and being 81 years old.
That seems like an incredible extrapolation to me. I understand (though disagree) that you believe there is a great weight of evidence in deltas that supports this, but your explanation for Q’s involvement still leaves me scratching my head.
Why did McCain get a deal? Didn’t Q usually capitalize “NO DEALS”? The Great Awakening is happening by trying and executing people for their crimes in secret?
Instead of revealing it?
I’m trying to reconcile a world in which Q is trying to “awaken” people to the truth about how evil people like McCain and Clinton apparently are, but then carrying out the justice secretly, DELIBERATELY covering up the real cause of death, and ensuring the only people who believe the truth sound like crazy people to the outside world by matching up deltas.
Everything about that strategy screams that Q is someone trying to protect the legacy of the Cabal that he’s executing and ensuring that the truth, if it ever leaks out, is attributed to the wild conspiracy theories of that QAnon guy.
I don’t even believe the notion of Q being a “black hat” (since I haven’t even been convinced of the Cabal that Q and Trump blame for their problems), but that narrative seems like a Bad Guy narrative to me.
There's no way Q could operate with plausible deniability while allowing a public execution of a traitor and announcing the reasons for his execution. It appears to be that the plan requires people's reputations to remain intact.
McCain likely cooperated because the plan served his interest of staying alive a bit longer, long enough to play a villain in the movie that's unfolding. He got to have his day being the one that blocked the elimination of Obamacare with half the country cheering him.
I use the term cooperation lightly. I don't know that McCain actually cooperated beyond not running to a microphone and screaming that military intelligence is going to execute him. I can't imagine he'd get anything beneficial from doing such a thing.
My interpretation of what Q means when he says "NO DEALS" doesn't include adjustments to someone's sentence based on cooperation. To me it means someone won't go free in exchange for their testimony.
At the end of the day he was still executed.
You can believe Q is real and who they say they are without agreeing that their method is the best.
I don't like the fact that justice is being delayed. I'd prefer that all the bad guys were rounded up on day one and executed.
But I don't have all the facts. I don't know what a cabal with trillions of dollars at its disposal is capable of. I don't know what pitfalls and deadman's switches exist that need diffusing.
If I were the cabal, at full strength on day one, and knew the end was inevitable, what prevents me from poisoning all water supplies? Exploding dirty bombs in major cities? Taking out the entire power grid? Exploding an EMP and frying every circuit in the USA?
The only reason the cabal is not pissing in the bathtub is because they believe they are winning, and they believe they'll be the owner of the bathtub at the end of the day so they should preserve it.
I would prefer swift justice, but I don't know the ramifications of what would happen if Trump steamrolled the cabal on day-one and if the outcome for the citizens of the US would be far worse.
What is the purpose of Q?
A day is coming when the president of the US will be arrested. When most of the congress will be arrested. When some members of SCOTUS will be arrested.
When that day happens, it will already start off as having the appearance of a coup. An entirely-cabal-owned MSM is starting the day off with it almost exactly looking like a coup. It won't be difficult at all for them to paint it as such, when that day happens.
On that day, what prevents the stock market from collapsing? From actual patriots picking up their guns and assembling to prevent the collapse of government?
When that day comes, there's ALOT of explaining to do to keep peace and stability.
That is the purpose of Q. To give the population a head-start on understanding the eventual arrests.
Peace and stability when that day happens are the only purpose of Q.
Sound crazy now. Sound like the only sane ones on the day(s) of arrests. On that day, no one will care or need to know what a delta is. The purpose of the deltas is so that anons could have faith they're receiving intel from actual military intelligence before the day(s) of mass arrests.
Take the average individual who heard someone speak about Q, but thinks they're crazy. Even they will understand what is happening on the day of arrests. They won't be speculating that it's a coup, instead they'll say to themselves "Oh, I guess that crazy relative was actually right".
After the arrests, people won't need have faith in deltas from a military intelligence backchannel. They'll get their explanations from the hundreds of thousands of anons who are already aware of what is happening.
I see it as taking out the cabal's infrastructure and allowing it to collapse like a house of cards while giving the superficial appearance that everything is fine (from the perspective of the upper hierarchy of the cabal), so they don't piss in the bathtub.
Oh, come now. Everyone's heard of Epstein's island. Work out what the existence of Epstein's island means. Extrapolate the implications.
Why would Hunter's laptop keep such a large volume of kompromat? If you were doing illegal things with children, would you take pictures of it and then bring it in to a laptop repair place and forget about it?
You don't think a single dollar has been stolen from the American people based on a politician being blackmailed?
You know the cabal exists, you just either think it's such a small problem that it's no big deal or haven't put 1+1 together to understand the full ramifications of what it means when laws are written by blackmailed congressmen, enforced by a blackmailed presidency and ruled to be just by a blackmailed SCOTUS.
Zeitreise, if you're going to insist on invading every single one of my conversations with your cohorts, please at least take the time to read the conversation fully before responding.
I was referring to a point made by u/magavoices, quoted below.
You are absolutely correct that it is impossible to effectively censor information that has no central source. That is definitely a power of the Q movement.
You talk about Q proofs but totally ignore the proof of Pamphlet being caught red handed in a livestream which conveniently is no longer on the internet.
Am I supposed to pretend to know who the fuck pamphlet is?
Rhetorical question.
Pamphlet anon =coleman rogers who was the q board owner on 8 chan. He did a livestream where he forgot to turn off his screen which showed him logged in as Q, He also fucked up a 2nd time when he identified a Q post that didn't have a trip code. Its the drop about a bike rack. Very soon after he publicly gave up ownership of the board. There must be people on here who remember that debacle. It was a good few years ago though.
You realize Q started on 4chan, right?
So an 8chan mod started a conspiracy on 4chan hoping to get kicked off so he could someday perpetuate the conspiracy on 8chan where he's actually a mod?
You sound like a very confused individual.
I never said he started Q. But he Tracy Beanz and Paul Furber promoted Q from the start and without them promoting it on their large social media accounts Q probably wouldnt have become popular. And when Q moved to 8 Chan Coleman Rogers (pamphlet) was the board owner and yes, he did get caught on a livestream logged into the Q account on 8 chan. Maybe you are too new remember any of this? Its hilarious when new people get into Q and don't know any of the history
You're a walking talking fallacy argument generator, aren't you?
Maybe you should take a step back, look at the fact every comment you've ever made has been ratioed, and ask yourself if maybe the problem is you.
Or perhaps I'm making a fallacy argument, that every comment you've ever made has been wrong so your current one is too.
But perhaps not.
Q is a COIN that will never, ever, ever be confirmed to the public. The q "proofs" are such an example. They are "plausible deniable" way to believe in Q for the public. The Q op needs a "plausible deniable" way to not believe in Q. I think this is where the HBO documentary comes into play. They heavily lean on Watkins and Ron being the minds behind Q to increase 8kuns popularity. This "plausible deniable out" to the Q operation is designed opposite to the plausible deniable "Trump tweet proofs".
I think a more prominent question would be why won't it ever be public? Because then you're leveraging your own military against a brainwashed local population which is a Grey area that folks might not like?
It would basically generate the question, "Why is the new power structure better than the old power structure.
Much as the problem/insurgency is clandestine and overt in nature, so too must be the cure? It must be an organic decision willingly chosen by the populace without force.
Anyways that's my best guess.
Wasn’t the question about finding out “who you’ve been talking to” posed?
My other prediction is we will see more plausible deniablity on both sides of the operation:
more Jim/Ron fuckery, and
more Q->Trump 0minute corresponding message deltas
Can I ask why Q needs plausible deniability?
If Trump is in control, and “we have it all”, and the White Hats have the game in the bag, and NCSWIC…
…then exactly who is Q afraid of being exposed to? Is Q afraid of the Deep State?
Is Q and the Plan so fragile that Q’s mere identity being exposed Can Stop What Is Coming?
If Q is right, he doesn’t need plausible deniability. He’s doing the right thing for the right reasons, and can apparently prove it, since “we have it all.” He doesn’t need to be afraid of a court system when Trump is back in charge.
And besides, since everyone in the Cabal apparently knows each other, it’s probably not hard for them to figure out the few people out there from Trump’s sphere who are not members of the club.
If the Deep State was that bad, they could narrow the list of Trump-supporting people with the necessary credentials pretty easily and wipe everyone off the map.
If they can’t do that, then Q has no reason to stay hidden.
Plausible deniability is used to protect Important Figures from being associated with Terrible Things.
So if this whole thing is really in the bag, and Q is who he claims to be, then I don’t see the point of plausible deniability, especially when Q’s identity as a high-ranking military or intelligence operative would benefit this movement ENORMOUSLY.
Because: dictator
You're trying to get people to willingly renounce their brain washing.
As soon as ots known military did this happens you birth a whole millenia of muh dictator.
Y'all should remember we are in a different time, a time when much has been revealed that needed to be kept under wraps. In the previous iteration, Q had to be obtuse: one never telegraphs moves in a war. This is different. It is obvious that the war is won, and we are in a cleanup phase. If you don't understand that, then you should look at when DJT was overtly in office and now, when it is covert.
I thought the exact same thing. Nice
I did not jump up and down at last drop. It's a first for me. No logic. Pure gut. I have not dismissed whole cloth. Uh, ok. Q avoids pronouns; more objective tone.
I harken back to the last episode of season 1 of the X-Files, Last words of deep throat to agent Scully "Trust No One"
Obviously there are Questions regarding these recent Q posts, when in doubt Don't comes to mind.
Your right! If you search Q drops every other time he suggest that we use Logic, he simply says "Logical thinking."
He never uses the term "Use your logic." I don't think that is even a valid term because Logic is not something owned, or possessed by the individual. It not my logic, or your logic. Logic is:
: a science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration : the science of the formal principles of reasoning
We can think logically, or we can apply logical principles in a though process, but to say "Your Logic" is like saying "Use your math". The math does not belong to the individual anymore that does Logic.
I would say that this is a big sign that someone is posing as Q. Q was very precise in his language. If he made a mistake, it meant something. Saying "your logic" says nothing but that this is not the real, original Q.
Exactly.
Neon Revolt over at GAB has got an interesting thread that shows there were a ton of Q posts that were not allowed through because of fuckery with the tripcode on QR board, and they might actually be real.
"Wait a minute - 8bit says these might actually be real.
I had forgotten that /hivemind/ was his board. He used to run /qresearch/ back in the day. (There's been... a lot of behind-the-scenes drama and such).
Awaiting more confirmation/information.
https://truthsocial.com/@8bit/posts/10856184058692817 "
For the link with the post images https://gab.com/NeonRevolt/posts/108561922576584510
Someone in the comments gave the url to the hivemind board. Q changed from 4chan to 8chan because of shit like this, possible he might change to /hivemind from /qresearch IF he's back and Watkins has been messing around on /qresearch
Here are the posts on /hivemind
https://8kun.top/hivemind/res/22274.html#22376
Hey hey look neon revolt did something useful. I thought all he did was doom? Glad he's back in shape
Hah yeah he doesn't post much about Q anymore but he still appears on my feed, and of course warned that this is likely another fake. Guess he must trust 8bit if he now says that this other Q might be legit, so guess we'll wait and see. I'm not convinced yet, even if the EPA decision is 5/4, I'm gonna need a lot more before I accept he's back.
Heh we might have competing Qs for a while if Watkins is hijacking Q - kind of funny the 'other' one - who may be the real one - appeared after he did that. If Watkins did indeed do what he is accused of I hope he loses everything.
If I were Q though I'd be posting on Truth Social but I suppose Trump may still need plausible deniability while the DS is looking to indict him for something, anything.
Q post #4: Some of us come here to drop crumbs, just crumbs.
Emphasis mine; Q is a group with multiple crumb-droppers.