Railroads transport huge quantities of toxic and hazardous products all over the country, all the time.
It's nothing new. Far from it.
And if you did discover some of those railcars contain hazardous materials, then what?
Do you want to ban them from being transported by rail?
What would happen then, other than clogging up highways with tanker trucks hauling this around? Where they can be involved in car wrecks. Which would happen on a daily basis, most likely?
Why is there the downvotes? Can we have a serious discussion sometime on this forum about there always, ALWAYS, being hazmat being transported? Why does no one here seem to know this. It’s how it’s worked, always. I’m glad people are paying attention to it I guess, but This picture means nothing. Trains get parked places.
Trains ABSOLUTELY are the safest way to transport hazardous materials over long distances - pipelines are impractical for many of them for various reasons.
Not only is railway safer but, they also have better placarding requirements so responders will know what they're actually dealing with if an incident does occur. A lot of hazardous material being transported over the road does not even require placarding because they are packaged below what is considered "reportable quantity" (RQ). The RQ varies based on the individual material beign transported which leads to situations where there are several hazardous materials all being loaded into the same cargo container that may have synergistic reactions if they should become mixed because of an accident.
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Sometimes people just want to be angry and outraged, and don't react well to plain old pragmatism.
And many people are absolutely oblivious to the everyday workings of the world.
They don't want to have to think about stuff. Just feel and express those feelings.
Because who wants to think about the logistics of hauling millions and millions of tons of hazardous materials around the country. To find solutions to problems. That's too much work.
And if I've learned anything from the Simpsons, it's that thinking causes wrinkles. And ain't nobody wanting any wrinkles.
It’s genuinely frustrating. I’m honestly confused by who is forging the narrative that trains I guess, don’t transport things? Or they shouldn’t be? Weird stuff going on with this narrative.
It's one of the last few bastions of common sense, rational thought and logical analysis left on the internet. Literally everything can be questioned, if you do it in a non-douchey manner.
Well, that's obviously my problem. I'm socially awkward and don't come over well online. I forget how much tone of voice and expression matter in communication.
If you live around a nuclear power plant, yes. Then you should be worried about that. Fortunately the government actually does take that form of specific hazmat, extremely seriously. We’re talking armed military escort in the middle of the night serious. Again, I’m glad people are learning about this stuff.
I think this is a bigger factor than many people realize. Lots of people, even Anons, just don't know things like railways transporting hazardous and toxic waste around the country.
So when something like this (The OH train wreck) happens, it freaks them out. And then they start doing research and find another train wreck! And another! And another!
So they think that, because this information is new to them, the scenario itself is new. And that's where the "The DS is trying to kill us all with toxic waste train wrecks but now we're on to them!" mindset comes into play.
Nevermind 100+ years of documented history on railroads transporting hazardous materials and train wrecks carrying hazardous material wrecking and causing big problems. Because that doesn't fit the current narrative, you see.
But if you point that out, and try to be objective and logical, then you get called a shill. 🤷♀️
Nuclear waste isn't transported under military armed guard in the middle of the night. However it is true that there is a formal and regulated process on how it is done.
Nuclear waste is a broad term and the type categorized as endangerment to public health and safety isn't transported over rail cars. Over the road methods are very formal and regulated process with safe guards in place making it the most tested and full proof transportation conditions for containment against a release.
Nuclear waste is usually stored on site in heavy metal containers which prevent leakage.
Fukushima is possibly still contaminating, but that was either an attack using tinfoil tier means or just a woefully under engineered plant.
Chernobyl still has a mass of "hot" material that will be able to instantly kill you for a very long time.
The long haired nerd Kyle Hill has some pretty good videos on Chernobyl in particular, with a lot of good -- and modern -- information on what happened and what is happening there.
The Chernobyl elephant's foot is one of the scariest things I've ever seen. There are also videos on alternative sites of a guy that went around doing early versions of TED Talks about how radiological material isn't instantly deadly to us. I don't know the guy's name though.
Fukushima was a by product of the known deficiencies to a gen 1 Westinghouse type, reactor configuration.
Also nuclear waste dependant on, type and category, is transported across country all the time. Only certain assessed types are stored on site in non permanent approved containers, which unfortunately have degraded and leaked contents in several cases.
Ahhh now we’re getting somewhere. Lobbyists and politicians decide railroad regulations. The easy answer is you want to transport hazmat far away from population centers(cities) in the case of a derailment, unfortunately sparsely populated usually means rural, and farmland.
I understand that point, but how is spilling hazmat from a train parked directly in front a culvert into a major river and and a water table that supports most of the midwest any better of an answer than spilling into a populated area.
I think cities would actually be a MUCH better place to accidentally spill as they have the infrastructure near by to handle it much better
Most severe hazmat derailments involve massive fires, which is undesirable in a location packed with buildings and people. That’s how I view that anyways. One particularly bad one was in Quebec somewhere in 2013, and something like 70 people burned to death, and this was in a very small town. Hard to find an “ideal” place for any derailment honestly.
If you are attempting to convince me that contaminating the immediate water supply of one of the main inland fresh water rivers in the US as well as contaminating the water table for the entirety of the midwest is less bad than 70 people burning to death, I think we can just agree to disagree
Ok, obviously "they did this on purpose" theory is popular here. But is that what really happened?
And I'm sure the "There are no coincidences" drop will be mentioned, but this is one of the most confusing things I think Q has ever said, personally.
Sometimes bad things just happen. Sometimes even coincidences happen.
I get that the world is really scary sometimes and people are just trying to make sense and bring order into chaos, but for the life of me, I just can't believe every single thing that has ever happened has been done so deliberately.
one - like many things, we'll likely never know the ground truth. We could find a memo saying "park it there and open the valves to salt the earth" or we could find a memo saying "the destination changed, hold for new instructions"
Both could just as easily be disinformation now. It only matters what you choose to believe.
two - remember what they said about DJT.
liberals take him literally, but not seriously. conservatives take him seriously, but not literally.
You should consider applying that to everything in your life.
You seem fixated on the literal, which may be a mistake
there are no coincidences
You should be considering whether this is one big coincidence or if there is foul play.
Previously, weak-minded liberals would claim occam's razor for everything. Every bad scenario was just one big set of random occurrences that no one could have predicted.
Maybe, just maybe, some of them are not only predictable, but planned.
But just like liberals mistake with DJT, maybe don't take the literal definition of no coincidences so literally, rather take seriously the notion that things may not be coincidences.
The question is pretty obvious, so yes it should. If you want to get conspiratorial and look for tough answers, you may wonder why trump himself did away with brake regulations for hazmat trains, and I have no answer for you there. (Haven’t even wanted to bring this up yet here tbh)
Yeah, you can't really say anything too critical here. Even if it's a fact.
This whole thing is weird to me.
I 100% believe if the MSM had jumped all over the OH train wreck when it happened and went in hard about how it was going to destroy the environment and how DJT was (at least partially) responsible because of the deregulation and such, the narrative here would be that the wreck wasn't that bad, and environmentalists were BSing about the environmental effects and this was just a ff to make Trump look bad.
But because MSM was quiet about it for so long, well, then obviously this train wreck is the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of rail transport, and now there aren't enough regulations surrounding transporting hazardous materials and won't someone think of the poor fish in the OH River (nevermind that tree huggers have been raising hell about big energy (coal mines especially) dumping toxic waste in the OH River for decades).
But no, let's not go there. 🙄
Because, obvious reasons.
Unfortunately that’s probably not very true. For example The train derailment i mentioned in Quebec went as follows. The one single person operating a train with 5 engines and 70 rail cars full of crude oil parked on a slight decline with engine problems. He was instructed to leave the train running, Unlocked, and directly next to a public highway, while one of the Diesel engines was actively running away and spitting sparks out its smokestack and to wait at at a hotel until maintenance fixes it. Fire burns out the only running engine about 10 minutes after he leaves, air brakes lose pressure, off the train goes directly into a small town. While not in the US, I don’t see our train companies doing things too far off from this type of thing.
Sorry for the long anecdote, I happen to enjoy reading about hazmat/industrial disasters. Anywho, I’m not sure if there’s laws on parking hazmat cars in certain ecological zones, but even if there are, expect rail companies to violate them if the fines are reasonable in the slightest.
Exactly, I commute along the 5 freeway in OC, CA and for decades “they” park dozens upon dozens of those black tanker cars sometimes for weeks on end alongside the freeway. They do the same with fully loaded lumber cars and I’ve never had a concern for safety. The first time you see it it might seem strange, the second time the ah ha moment... you have to park the unused cars somewhere.
These chemicals should be transported via pipelines. Oddly enough the SEC and Fed reserve are the ones to fight against that. What part they have is odd. Also, railroad safety has fallen by the wayside. There used to be 4 railroad employees on every train. There was a conductor and a brakeman in the engine. There was a fireman and one more person in the caboose. Each had a very important job they took seriously. Now these trains are manned by only one person and they would like to do away with that. The trains were about 1 mile long. Now they are 2 miles long. The railroad yards were also manned by section crew, yard master and r.r. police. My family is 3 generation railroad (proud) workers. To see what has happened is sickening to us.
They are clearly in need of being tipped over, the tanks breeched, and the contents set ablaze...here’s where ordinary citizens can help their fellow man...
Found on twitter - area in California agricultural region, hundreds of rail cars laid up on a siding with unknown liquid contents and reportedly no one in the area knows what they’re for? Any pedes in cali have any ideas? Also reports of major power outage in Oakland CA yesterday? Gets the noggin joggin
Game (Hunting) cameras are great for this. Problem is finding an inconspicuous spot, or high enough, to put them where there isn't a lot of trees around.
We keep getting jerked back and forth from. "This is all a show, get your popcorn and sit back and enjoy the movie." to "Everyone, everywhere is trying to kill us and we all have to be diligently watching everything, everywhere 24/7 to stop them".
So, yeah. It's definitely one of those options. 🤷♀️
Why was the vaccine created if that was the consequence.
Why did Q not say anything about it.
Why is Trump still supporting (or at least, not outright telling people the dangers of) the vaccine.
How does this factor into all the "It had to be this way" arguments? If there is a plan, was this part of the plan? Or is the plan no longer being followed?
Why would the average person know what’s on the train cars? I don’t mean that facetiously, I’m genuinely curious what is meant by the point being made.
But they park these on tracks all over the place. Always have. Not saying ya shouldn't be aware, but it's a common sight where I live, 50 yards from tracks.
Anything and everything that gets transported by rail. Probably hazardous chemicals. One can use the internet to find out the rail car type, and deduce further. But that’s about it.
Yes, there are hundreds or thousands of special regulations for transporting hazardous materials.
And the companies that have to pay more to transport their hazardous materials don't like those regulations. Because, profits.
So they fight against those types of regulations that are (supposedly) to make transportation of these materials safer.
And when regulations are relaxed, more incidents (not going to say "accident" because I'm tired of the "There are no coincidences!" argument) occur like the one in OH.
You also have dishonest shippers that don't properly declare hazmat cargo so they don't have to pay the premium. I've seen it happen with ocean imports. Asked Coast Guard about it and was told we have to go with what the shipper declared; even though other shippers of same cargo declared it as hazmat.
So you want railways that don't go through rural or suburban/urban areas?
I'm interested in what rail line you can find that follows those limitations.
Or one that could be made. For destinations all over the country.
Maybe you could work one out?
Been thinking about this, and short of applying eminent domain I really don't know how you're going to accomplish making rail lines all around the country that avoids farmland and people. So, land grab, anyone?
Well, if that so-called conspiracy theorist dude (who years ago "committed suicide" in pretty short order after making the claim) was telling the truth? The US is already riddled with tunnels.
Well, maybe it would be a good idea to look into the logistics of it?
To look at some numbers and then form opinions based on facts?
Cause I look at the drivers here around me, and sure as shit don't want them to be driving anywhere near a tanker truck full.of hazardous materials especially if I'm behind them. We already have too many, imo.
If they're full, they'd have seals on top and bottom(if applicable). Those seals will have a commodity tag attached. If hazardous, it will have DOT placards. Rail car numbers, most of which start with letters(UTLX, DOWX, etc.), tell who owns the rail car. I know I can look on a program at work to find this information but not sure if there's a public website to get it. Cars without placards and no commodity tags could actually be recently cleaned and empty. With companies slowing down processes, because lack of transportation, and customers not purchasing, these cars could very well be empty and being stored until demand comes back up. Not saying something nefarious isn't at play. Just saying this is typically how it works.
Ok. That works too. I just load these things and follow DOT regs for transportation of hazardous chemicals and RCRA waste. Most companies will not risk sending a car full of chemical out of the property without proper manifest. As an individual loading a product, you can be independently fined and jailed for doing so. I aint risking it. Still, not saying that some idiot wouldn't try cutting seals off the car and removing the placards. But it's still tracked through railserve with all the original information. And most cars also have GPS so it can be tracked whenever, wherever it goes.
There is a very similar situation where I live. Saturday (18 Feb) there was/is a huge gaggle of tank cars parked outside of Hoquiam/Aberdeen (Curt Cobain-ville), WA. It's not so much of them being parked, but rather the location they elected to park them. Directly across the two lane highway of the tank cars is Hoquiam High School...... kids are kids, I observed several that were crawling all over them as I drove by..
Scuse me but for all yall that don't know, this nation is under attack from within. 5 million+ across the border, thousands could be terrorist and deployed across the country. 10 train derailments in the last week----NO COINCIDENCES!
Blurry pic but those are non-pressurized cars. Could be hazmat, could be vegetable oil.
If it were hazmat there will be placards indicating so. Even if they were removed, there are also ways to tell by the lettering and numbers on the car. Seeing a manifest is the only solid "proof" though. Sure, I suppose it could all be fake or altered for nefarious reasons.
Well, unless something REALLY NEFARIOUS is going on, any hazmat tanker would have a placard, with a number signifying what hazmat it is hauling. In normal circumstances, tankers with no placard number, are usually things like corn syrup, soybean oil, etc
Railroads transport huge quantities of toxic and hazardous products all over the country, all the time.
It's nothing new. Far from it.
And if you did discover some of those railcars contain hazardous materials, then what?
Do you want to ban them from being transported by rail?
What would happen then, other than clogging up highways with tanker trucks hauling this around? Where they can be involved in car wrecks. Which would happen on a daily basis, most likely?
Why is there the downvotes? Can we have a serious discussion sometime on this forum about there always, ALWAYS, being hazmat being transported? Why does no one here seem to know this. It’s how it’s worked, always. I’m glad people are paying attention to it I guess, but This picture means nothing. Trains get parked places.
Trains ABSOLUTELY are the safest way to transport hazardous materials over long distances - pipelines are impractical for many of them for various reasons.
Not only is railway safer but, they also have better placarding requirements so responders will know what they're actually dealing with if an incident does occur. A lot of hazardous material being transported over the road does not even require placarding because they are packaged below what is considered "reportable quantity" (RQ). The RQ varies based on the individual material beign transported which leads to situations where there are several hazardous materials all being loaded into the same cargo container that may have synergistic reactions if they should become mixed because of an accident.
Sure, but gas pipelines are absolutely superior. That being said, carry on.
Carry on, indeed.
🤷♀️ Sometimes people just want to be angry and outraged, and don't react well to plain old pragmatism.
And many people are absolutely oblivious to the everyday workings of the world.
They don't want to have to think about stuff. Just feel and express those feelings.
Because who wants to think about the logistics of hauling millions and millions of tons of hazardous materials around the country. To find solutions to problems. That's too much work.
And if I've learned anything from the Simpsons, it's that thinking causes wrinkles. And ain't nobody wanting any wrinkles.
It’s genuinely frustrating. I’m honestly confused by who is forging the narrative that trains I guess, don’t transport things? Or they shouldn’t be? Weird stuff going on with this narrative.
People don't like those who don't just fall into step with whatever the narrative here is currently.
We're supposed to "question everything". Except here.
For God's sake. Do NOT question anything here. Because, shill.
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LOL I question things here all the time.
It's one of the last few bastions of common sense, rational thought and logical analysis left on the internet. Literally everything can be questioned, if you do it in a non-douchey manner.
Well, that's obviously my problem. I'm socially awkward and don't come over well online. I forget how much tone of voice and expression matter in communication.
If you live around a nuclear power plant, yes. Then you should be worried about that. Fortunately the government actually does take that form of specific hazmat, extremely seriously. We’re talking armed military escort in the middle of the night serious. Again, I’m glad people are learning about this stuff.
"Again, I’m glad people are learning about this"
I think this is a bigger factor than many people realize. Lots of people, even Anons, just don't know things like railways transporting hazardous and toxic waste around the country.
So when something like this (The OH train wreck) happens, it freaks them out. And then they start doing research and find another train wreck! And another! And another!
So they think that, because this information is new to them, the scenario itself is new. And that's where the "The DS is trying to kill us all with toxic waste train wrecks but now we're on to them!" mindset comes into play.
Nevermind 100+ years of documented history on railroads transporting hazardous materials and train wrecks carrying hazardous material wrecking and causing big problems. Because that doesn't fit the current narrative, you see.
But if you point that out, and try to be objective and logical, then you get called a shill. 🤷♀️
Nuclear waste isn't transported under military armed guard in the middle of the night. However it is true that there is a formal and regulated process on how it is done.
Nuclear waste is a broad term and the type categorized as endangerment to public health and safety isn't transported over rail cars. Over the road methods are very formal and regulated process with safe guards in place making it the most tested and full proof transportation conditions for containment against a release.
Nuclear waste is usually stored on site in heavy metal containers which prevent leakage.
Fukushima is possibly still contaminating, but that was either an attack using tinfoil tier means or just a woefully under engineered plant.
Chernobyl still has a mass of "hot" material that will be able to instantly kill you for a very long time.
The long haired nerd Kyle Hill has some pretty good videos on Chernobyl in particular, with a lot of good -- and modern -- information on what happened and what is happening there.
The Chernobyl elephant's foot is one of the scariest things I've ever seen. There are also videos on alternative sites of a guy that went around doing early versions of TED Talks about how radiological material isn't instantly deadly to us. I don't know the guy's name though.
Fukushima was a by product of the known deficiencies to a gen 1 Westinghouse type, reactor configuration.
Also nuclear waste dependant on, type and category, is transported across country all the time. Only certain assessed types are stored on site in non permanent approved containers, which unfortunately have degraded and leaked contents in several cases.
Not to mention raw nerves. People are hyper focused on this stuff, because of the Ohio disaster
Yup
why can liberal major cities prohibit hazardous cargo but not rural farms?
seems like everyone should have a say in whether HC can come through or no one should.
Ahhh now we’re getting somewhere. Lobbyists and politicians decide railroad regulations. The easy answer is you want to transport hazmat far away from population centers(cities) in the case of a derailment, unfortunately sparsely populated usually means rural, and farmland.
I understand that point, but how is spilling hazmat from a train parked directly in front a culvert into a major river and and a water table that supports most of the midwest any better of an answer than spilling into a populated area.
I think cities would actually be a MUCH better place to accidentally spill as they have the infrastructure near by to handle it much better
Most severe hazmat derailments involve massive fires, which is undesirable in a location packed with buildings and people. That’s how I view that anyways. One particularly bad one was in Quebec somewhere in 2013, and something like 70 people burned to death, and this was in a very small town. Hard to find an “ideal” place for any derailment honestly.
If you are attempting to convince me that contaminating the immediate water supply of one of the main inland fresh water rivers in the US as well as contaminating the water table for the entirety of the midwest is less bad than 70 people burning to death, I think we can just agree to disagree
Ok, obviously "they did this on purpose" theory is popular here. But is that what really happened?
And I'm sure the "There are no coincidences" drop will be mentioned, but this is one of the most confusing things I think Q has ever said, personally.
Sometimes bad things just happen. Sometimes even coincidences happen.
I get that the world is really scary sometimes and people are just trying to make sense and bring order into chaos, but for the life of me, I just can't believe every single thing that has ever happened has been done so deliberately.
two things to address
one - like many things, we'll likely never know the ground truth. We could find a memo saying "park it there and open the valves to salt the earth" or we could find a memo saying "the destination changed, hold for new instructions"
Both could just as easily be disinformation now. It only matters what you choose to believe.
two - remember what they said about DJT.
You should consider applying that to everything in your life.
You seem fixated on the literal, which may be a mistake
You should be considering whether this is one big coincidence or if there is foul play.
Previously, weak-minded liberals would claim occam's razor for everything. Every bad scenario was just one big set of random occurrences that no one could have predicted.
Maybe, just maybe, some of them are not only predictable, but planned.
But just like liberals mistake with DJT, maybe don't take the literal definition of no coincidences so literally, rather take seriously the notion that things may not be coincidences.
Seems like an obvious answer.
The question is pretty obvious, so yes it should. If you want to get conspiratorial and look for tough answers, you may wonder why trump himself did away with brake regulations for hazmat trains, and I have no answer for you there. (Haven’t even wanted to bring this up yet here tbh)
Yeah, you can't really say anything too critical here. Even if it's a fact.
This whole thing is weird to me.
I 100% believe if the MSM had jumped all over the OH train wreck when it happened and went in hard about how it was going to destroy the environment and how DJT was (at least partially) responsible because of the deregulation and such, the narrative here would be that the wreck wasn't that bad, and environmentalists were BSing about the environmental effects and this was just a ff to make Trump look bad.
But because MSM was quiet about it for so long, well, then obviously this train wreck is the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of rail transport, and now there aren't enough regulations surrounding transporting hazardous materials and won't someone think of the poor fish in the OH River (nevermind that tree huggers have been raising hell about big energy (coal mines especially) dumping toxic waste in the OH River for decades).
But no, let's not go there. 🙄 Because, obvious reasons.
There's always hazmat being transported.
There's not always hazmat being left to sit in the middle of ecologically sensitive zones without reason or explanation.
Unfortunately that’s probably not very true. For example The train derailment i mentioned in Quebec went as follows. The one single person operating a train with 5 engines and 70 rail cars full of crude oil parked on a slight decline with engine problems. He was instructed to leave the train running, Unlocked, and directly next to a public highway, while one of the Diesel engines was actively running away and spitting sparks out its smokestack and to wait at at a hotel until maintenance fixes it. Fire burns out the only running engine about 10 minutes after he leaves, air brakes lose pressure, off the train goes directly into a small town. While not in the US, I don’t see our train companies doing things too far off from this type of thing.
Sorry for the long anecdote, I happen to enjoy reading about hazmat/industrial disasters. Anywho, I’m not sure if there’s laws on parking hazmat cars in certain ecological zones, but even if there are, expect rail companies to violate them if the fines are reasonable in the slightest.
Exactly, I commute along the 5 freeway in OC, CA and for decades “they” park dozens upon dozens of those black tanker cars sometimes for weeks on end alongside the freeway. They do the same with fully loaded lumber cars and I’ve never had a concern for safety. The first time you see it it might seem strange, the second time the ah ha moment... you have to park the unused cars somewhere.
Yeah she mentions the location in another tweet: https://twitter.com/DollArntzen/status/1627705703229177858
Checked on Google Earth and looked on historical imagery and there are several years recently that tanker cars have been parked in that area.
Every time you post you out yourself as a shill.
What exactly have I said that you think is untrue?
Or do only shills acknowledge things like hazardous materials have long been transported by rail?
What does "shill" even mean here anymore? Other than "someone who says something I don't like"?
The ranchers are spooked. They’re obviously saying that this is unusual.
That’s what she said on the clips - it was being discussed by locals (she’s visiting the area) at a gathering as it’s unusual for that area
These chemicals should be transported via pipelines. Oddly enough the SEC and Fed reserve are the ones to fight against that. What part they have is odd. Also, railroad safety has fallen by the wayside. There used to be 4 railroad employees on every train. There was a conductor and a brakeman in the engine. There was a fireman and one more person in the caboose. Each had a very important job they took seriously. Now these trains are manned by only one person and they would like to do away with that. The trains were about 1 mile long. Now they are 2 miles long. The railroad yards were also manned by section crew, yard master and r.r. police. My family is 3 generation railroad (proud) workers. To see what has happened is sickening to us.
This situation is turning out to be people chasing their tails. Or chasing the rails.
They are clearly in need of being tipped over, the tanks breeched, and the contents set ablaze...here’s where ordinary citizens can help their fellow man...
Yup. Came here to say that. Although it's gettin pretty obvious.
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Found on twitter - area in California agricultural region, hundreds of rail cars laid up on a siding with unknown liquid contents and reportedly no one in the area knows what they’re for? Any pedes in cali have any ideas? Also reports of major power outage in Oakland CA yesterday? Gets the noggin joggin
Game (Hunting) cameras are great for this. Problem is finding an inconspicuous spot, or high enough, to put them where there isn't a lot of trees around.
If there is a FF it would affect Cali & the rest of the lower 48 states. It's enough to make one pray.
Who are the DS assets who are literally running these trains? They must be complicit.
How strong is their UNION?
That's the $64,000 question.
Are we watching the water now?
We keep getting jerked back and forth from. "This is all a show, get your popcorn and sit back and enjoy the movie." to "Everyone, everywhere is trying to kill us and we all have to be diligently watching everything, everywhere 24/7 to stop them".
So, yeah. It's definitely one of those options. 🤷♀️
The second the jab came out our families were no longer safe.
Ok, but that calls into question several things.
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Why would the average person know what’s on the train cars? I don’t mean that facetiously, I’m genuinely curious what is meant by the point being made.
Apparently a fire caused the outage yesterday but that was a very big outage and lasted some time.
We are under attack. This is war.
Now that's a post title! Encouraging to know that a very high percentage at GAW will immediately get the double meaning.
But they park these on tracks all over the place. Always have. Not saying ya shouldn't be aware, but it's a common sight where I live, 50 yards from tracks.
They ARE parked all over the place, and they may be full…of what? Perhaps we should be looking into this.
Anything and everything that gets transported by rail. Probably hazardous chemicals. One can use the internet to find out the rail car type, and deduce further. But that’s about it.
Yep, there are also 1000 derailments PER YEAR!
Yes, there are hundreds or thousands of special regulations for transporting hazardous materials.
And the companies that have to pay more to transport their hazardous materials don't like those regulations. Because, profits.
So they fight against those types of regulations that are (supposedly) to make transportation of these materials safer.
And when regulations are relaxed, more incidents (not going to say "accident" because I'm tired of the "There are no coincidences!" argument) occur like the one in OH.
You also have dishonest shippers that don't properly declare hazmat cargo so they don't have to pay the premium. I've seen it happen with ocean imports. Asked Coast Guard about it and was told we have to go with what the shipper declared; even though other shippers of same cargo declared it as hazmat.
What did I say about using that type of talk around here?
You know how many people are clicking deport on your ass right now?
Nevermind, guessing you do, which is why you're using an alt identity.
You just really want to be banned, don't you?
But I am interested in seeing the rationalization of those actions.
Honestly, I doubt many people have a clue about any of those deregulations that occured.
See what happens? Told you so. 🤷♀️ Tsk. Tsk. Coming up in here with all your quotes people said. The nerve of some people.
So you want railways that don't go through rural or suburban/urban areas?
I'm interested in what rail line you can find that follows those limitations.
Or one that could be made. For destinations all over the country.
Maybe you could work one out?
Been thinking about this, and short of applying eminent domain I really don't know how you're going to accomplish making rail lines all around the country that avoids farmland and people. So, land grab, anyone?
Underground has always been an option.
I don't disagree.
Well, if that so-called conspiracy theorist dude (who years ago "committed suicide" in pretty short order after making the claim) was telling the truth? The US is already riddled with tunnels.
Well, maybe it would be a good idea to look into the logistics of it?
To look at some numbers and then form opinions based on facts?
Cause I look at the drivers here around me, and sure as shit don't want them to be driving anywhere near a tanker truck full.of hazardous materials especially if I'm behind them. We already have too many, imo.
Best case its natural gas, maybe petroleum product. Worst case...RIP
Or they're being transported without any markings so people can't figure out what's in them.
Ok. That works too. I just load these things and follow DOT regs for transportation of hazardous chemicals and RCRA waste. Most companies will not risk sending a car full of chemical out of the property without proper manifest. As an individual loading a product, you can be independently fined and jailed for doing so. I aint risking it. Still, not saying that some idiot wouldn't try cutting seals off the car and removing the placards. But it's still tracked through railserve with all the original information. And most cars also have GPS so it can be tracked whenever, wherever it goes.
Shhhh. That type of talk don't sit well round these here parts, boy.
There is a very similar situation where I live. Saturday (18 Feb) there was/is a huge gaggle of tank cars parked outside of Hoquiam/Aberdeen (Curt Cobain-ville), WA. It's not so much of them being parked, but rather the location they elected to park them. Directly across the two lane highway of the tank cars is Hoquiam High School...... kids are kids, I observed several that were crawling all over them as I drove by..
I'll take "empty and being stored" for $500, Alex!
Scuse me but for all yall that don't know, this nation is under attack from within. 5 million+ across the border, thousands could be terrorist and deployed across the country. 10 train derailments in the last week----NO COINCIDENCES!
It's cool. Just keep voting. Eventually we won't get the right people for the job.
Voting is the only solution.
I hear ya. It’s the only way to be heard….it’s what we’re told!
/sarcasm 💯
Someone isn’t getting our sarcasm. ☹️
Vote and get other like minded people to vote
What else are you gonna do?
Chemtrails
I guess we're all afraid of trains now too
Omg I wanna cry 😑🙏🏻
I’m so scared 💔🙏🏻
I hope this isn't what is meant by watch California
set up web cams...
seriously.
Local Patriots should be all over this like flies on shit until we're safe
Hopefully. It will be interesting to see if more stuff comes out on twitter about it - I’m keeping an eye on it
Not too late to get a garden going this year...
I'll give you three guesses....the first two don't count!
Blurry pic but those are non-pressurized cars. Could be hazmat, could be vegetable oil.
If it were hazmat there will be placards indicating so. Even if they were removed, there are also ways to tell by the lettering and numbers on the car. Seeing a manifest is the only solid "proof" though. Sure, I suppose it could all be fake or altered for nefarious reasons.
Those are corn syrup, you can tell by the lack of pressure valves on the side and how the top is set.
Wait wait wait wait wait, there are TRAINS using the most trafficked length of train tracks in the US!?!?!?!
This is insane.
The twitter poster said they’ve been parked up and left and no one knows why?
It's not unusual actually, I have rails behind my farm and trains get stopped there for a day or two at a time then move on.
The terrorist government's next victim.
False flag? Nah dude at this point this is war.
Well, unless something REALLY NEFARIOUS is going on, any hazmat tanker would have a placard, with a number signifying what hazmat it is hauling. In normal circumstances, tankers with no placard number, are usually things like corn syrup, soybean oil, etc
Seems like a way to distract/discredit the right. Keep an eye on it, but don't get bogged down with it either.
Wouldn't be shocked if they're empty or full of something innocuous like water
FYI DS faggots, we're on to you!!
Link please
https://twitter.com/dollarntzen/status/1627536931642044417?s=46&t=4Dk7e9kAhkCK2i-G2n81dw