Great post. I'm glad you made it without getting the vax

I'm happy you're here and I'm trying to keep my head in the right space. My child was injured in 2000 and no one would listen to me or hundreds of other parents like me, then it became thousands and then tens of thousands.

I have marched in DC, I met RFK Jr in person, I organized a symposium on the subject, I've been interviewed on radio, TV and newspapers after healing my son (it took 7 years). So I tried to warn people.

Every study that RFK Jr talks about on that Rogan podcast, we lived through in real time. The corruption was right in our faces for two decades. But no one listened. People called us kooks while the numbers of injuries continued to rise.

Even on THIS board last summer I was told how my anti-vax position was hurting the movement and that my kid was just a retard and I needed to move on.

I have to admit I'm a little bitter. I mean I'm glad people are waking up but I want a fucking apology. I want people to hang.

Saving this thread just because it's a great summary of the best starting arguments. Thx fren.

Safety of vaxxes went out the window many decades ago. This is why there has been more whistleblowers coming through now then any time in history.

Western medicine has been hijacked. I saw a viral youtube video today with a cardiologists that says that cardio is overrated. I agree in that what matters more is what you put in your body and your sleeping/resting habits. Putting in excess sugars and processed foods is simply too much for your body to filter out.

But this is well known in ancient western medicine which is why Hippocrates always put an emphasis on what you ate and living routine as to helping people. Also, like eastern medicine he and many others believed that the human body has the ability to heal itself under right conditions.

By modern western standards that approach is considered timid and not aggressive enough with dealing with disease. However, as we have seen aggressive approaches to dealing with disease have become borderline medieval and very cruel.

So, overall what matters the most is that your body can heal yourself if you give it the right foods, stress free environment, sleep, energy and mental/spiritual health.

It is clear that most modern poisons come from food and injections of vaxxes along with other contaminants in the air like micro plastics, particulate matter, etc.

that I was going to get it because I knew how to take my vital measurements, and if something went wrong, I'd just file a claim under the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

Fren, that is some of the goofiest, most illogical thinking I have ever seen. Basically, your argument was, "If I'm half dead, no problem, I'll get compensated."

I'm glad you didn't get it because, of course, you can always still choose to get it if you have a good enough reason. But the thought that risking harm is no big deal because you'd get compensated is ... crazy.

lots of great info/thanks

as a teacher/would present this by starting with #4

the Amish are a perfect example/liberals would have a hard time explaining how the Amish are healthy without modern medicine.

I can make your transition even easier -> cooties-viruses don't even exist. So quack-cines could never be "safe" nor "effective" as there is nothing for them to be effective against in the fist place. It's all lies, from Pastuer the fraudster, to Fauci. Never once has anything in "germ theory" ever even been remotely demonstrated using the scientific method. It's literally ALL LIES. Bacteria do indeed exist, but they aren't the "cause" of dis-ease. This is a half-truth. Bacteria are created by your body and stimulated when there is tissue in need of removal or repair. The activity of the bacteria and their subsequent elimination process, known as "putrefaction" does make you feel sick as the waste gets into your bloodstream. But "getting rid of bacteria" with anti-biotics (against-lifes) actually prevents them from performing their work, thus leaving the affected organ/tissue in a permanent state of disrepair which often leads to on-going or future problems as that organ/tissue has been left in a non-optimal, weakened state.

I can provide all the information you could ever ask for on the non-existence of viruses. Once you do your own research, you'll see it's quite clear and frankly, there's really nothing to even argue about. And this is why you'll never see cooties-virus believers ever even attempt to defend their BELIEFS against the people who have definitively shown that there's never been even a modicum of proof that cooties-viruses exist.

From 1870-1940, they were purely hypothetical, speculated organisms, yet our medical establishment managed to blame dozens of dis-eases on something they couldn't even see/detect; small pox, Spanish flu, polio, etc.

From 1940-1954 the establishment tried desperately to collect and purify the tiny particles they saw under their new electron microscopes in order to introduce them to both human and animal test subjects to produce dis-ease. All attempts failed and the documented evidence of their efforts is virtually impossible to find - because they were all failures.

In 1954 John Enders invented the phake, phone and phalse "viral culturing technique" which was the "gold standard" up until around the year 2000. It's a massive joke, a total fraud. Zero science is utilized. It's pure pseudoscience.

Around 2000 the new "gene/metagenomic/sanger sequencing" techniques began to take precedence over the more clunky viral culturing. But the virologists had to do the opposite of what everybody else was doing, which was taking a fully intact gene sequence of the thing they were studying, e.g. carrot, fly, human, whatever - and then snip it up into pieces to study it. The virologists has to do the opposite, because they can't ever find a "fully intact virus" in the fluids or tissues of a sick person. So they had to invent this "Gene assembling" process and pass it off as legit. But it's also a total sham. They can find billions and trillions of "Partial RNA strands" but can never find a fully intact cooties-virus? It's blatant fraud on its face.

What starts out as a lie (Pasteur and his innumerable, documented, provable frauds) remains a lie. And so it is.

Happy to share any information you'd like to see to confirm what I've said.

It's more though than just the vaccines. People have been getting fatter and fatter, and then getting sick, while the pharma companies try to treat with medication rather than diet. There is absolutely no excuse that by now we don't know what foods humans should consume. The ridiculous Tufts university food ranking that had cooked ground beef as one of the worst foods you could eat, and cheerios as the best food for human consumption. They ranked frosted mini wheats higher than chicken breasts. All these groups are paid off by other food industry groups, but usually, you can't find out who funds them. The AMA, The American Heart Assoc., the ADN, are all not honest.

One more thing, we already have the control groups. There are thousands of unvaccinated children. There are thousands of vegans and carnivores. This should be very very easy to determine who is telling the truth, and who is lying. It can't come soon enough.

NUREMBERG!!!

When this started back in 20/21 I knew that anything the MSM pushed was an outright lie. Never got it and when my Dr asked I told him no and that after Covid and the vax I do not trust the medical profession at large. He was cool with that, main reason he’s still my doc.

There were common sense ways to know the vax was a fraud without being a biologist or even having looked into it.

The first were the timeframes involved. Vaccines take time to make, and not every disease can successfully have a vaccine made for it.

So then, early on, when they were saying "we should have a vax in x months" ... that was a huge red flag. How did they know they would actually be successful in making one? How could they predict how long it would take?

The second was methods of testing. They were rolling out new variants like crazy ... using them as a reason to enforce each new lockdown, but when did they ever have time to update tests to test for new variants and spread those tests out worldwide so that their counts could be accurate?

Like this crazy article about the delta variant:

https://asm.org/Articles/2021/July/How-Dangerous-is-the-Delta-Variant-B-1-617-2

Delta, or B.1.617.2, was first identified in India in Dec. 2020. Within a matter of months, this particular variant spread to over 98 countries around the world, becoming the dominant variant in more than a dozen of those countries, including India, the U.K., Israel and the United States.

How did they update all their tests worldwide to know which variant the population was experiencing? They couldn't roll out new tests worldwide in "a matter of months".

Even a year after delta was out, nobody had access to tests that were capable of detecting delta.

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/is-there-a-test-for-delta-variant

Technically, there is a test to differentiate between the different variants—but it isn't something you or your doctor have access to. "There is no commercial test for the Delta variant"

But no research was even needed to know they can't test for all these crazy new variants worldwide ... it's just common sense that if there's a new variant, that tests for the variant can't be produced and then shipped worldwide for all doctors to use in a matter of "months".

Third, where did the flu go? Where did the common cold go? They vanished. If you explained to a 5-year-old that every year there are 100k flu cases, but then the next year there is 100k covid cases but now there are zero flu cases, they know what's going on.

I could go on and on. We are creatures of pattern recognition. When was the last time a "pandemic" required the entire world's population to be put under simultaneous house arrest? Never. The response to covid wasn't organic, if it were then every country wouldn't be pushing the exact same coordinated protocols. When was the last time people simultaneously lost rights to travel, every country the same? Never.

Common sense was enough to make the proper decision about getting vaccinated, without even needing to research it.

Might want to watch it with the Japan vaccination claim. They start jabbing kids at 3 months old: http://idsc.nih.go.jp/vaccine/dschedule/Imm10EN.pdf

im still searching for proof that "it" even existed. thousands of FOIA on the origins of the "virus" result in nothing being proven to exist.

people getting sick (as we always have) & saying they can't taste or smell (nothing new whatsoever) is not enough for me to take a "vaccine" or wear a face mask everywhere.

using lottery-ticked PCR tests mean nothing to me. when a person is sick with something, takes one of those garbage tests & gets a "negative" result, but a fvcking can of soda or banana can test "positive"...

when it took, like johnlocke1689 said, "levels of bank robbery scheming" to obtain vials to study & find out what ingredients were in them, that should have been a red flag to everybody.

when dunkin donuts & krispy kreme were offering FREE FVCKING DONUTS for vaccine proof, that should have been a red flag.

there were no "mutations", there was no "virus" going around killing people mysteriously, face masks were not & are still not protecting anybody.

but some things that have happened are:

1. lots of people got very rich from selling these poison shots
2. lots of people got very sick from taking the poison
3. many died from taking the poison
4. the economy tanked
5. relations between friends & family were shattered
6. people on a global scale, showed just how willing they were to be rounded up, told what to do or think & how easily manipulated they could be
7. we found out who the "real" ones around us were & were not

people cannot "vaccinate" themselves into a healthy life. our bodies must learn & continue to fight. its insane to think people thought shots would prevent "coronavirus'" from spreading.

its akin to people that have oxygen tanks. they are told to use them only when needed, but they become "addicted" & the tank begins to breathe for them. the lungs become weak & overworked. take the oxygen away for 5 seconds from somebody like this & they begin panicking. they have prevented their own body from functioning naturally.

Except it was never a vaccine. It was/is gene therapy. Thanks for the concise testimony. I thank God everyday that I was awake, mostly thanks to this community. Godspeed, Fren.

In the nineties, I did some research on antidepressants because my doctor put me on Prozac.

I was stunned to learn that Prozac did no better than any other drug in the trial, but it was pushed through and approved anyway. Its advantage is allegedly that the side effects are easier to tolerate.

I'd always assumed that there was some kind of basic ethics when it came to approving medications for the market. Since then, I've been skeptical of the drug industry.

Have you seen this site? https://thetruthaboutvaccines.com/

This was way before Covid or any of that. Amazing documentaries and site.

I am anti vax and I am not apologetic about it!

When I was 5 years old, I had the Hong Kong flu. My fever was 106F. Ever since then, I've been immune to everything.

The misinformation surrounding vaccines is so out of control, it is a web that has been spun tightly around us. Time to explode that web of lies. What I've learned: NEVER buy anything that is sold primarily through the emotion of fear. Most likely it will be a total facade.

NOW everyone knows that the Amish are way ahead of the curve...Have been through Amish country and their farms and homes are idealistic in terms of MODERN conveniences BUT the Amish are TRUE to their roots...The same way we should!!!

Vaccines are poison now and they always have been. Read Rudolf Steiner & understand the pivotal role of big pharma in subverting our medical institutions.

Sorry to break the 17 comment barrier, but this was too good not to chime in on! Interesting that you mention that the modern polio vaccine is not the same as the earlier version, which I, as a 65-yr-old, got not that long after it was widely distributed in the U.S. (I never heard of vaccine injuries until the past 20 or 30 years). The modern medical establishment has clearly been compromised by BigPharma combined with the general arrogance of the medical doctors involved with medical schools, and medical practice. The "group think" aspect of the medical doctors is probably a big part of it too. Until enough medical doctors wake up to the fraud/con or whatever you want to call it, regarding covid, chemo therapy, and many other things, it will continue.

Former molecular genetics - I watched a friends twins go out after the mmr in 1990. We could spend days covering just the surface of what’s wrong with vaxes. Most jabs are genetically modified now. I’m weary of explaining. The mRNA jab uses the SV40 vector - my God, that’s a cancer virus. Old school virologists were taught the theory that ‘herd immunity’ was the cure, not vaccines. I’m anti vax. Future generations will ridicule us for our beliefs in vaccines. I was on the team that modified the first agricultural crop, cotton. I left that 6 figure job when they wanted to modify corn - putting poison in your food - Monsanto. We would all be better off without genetic engineering - may God help us. Autism is like 1/4 kids ffs, and NOTHING is hppning, no studies to determine the cause. It’s unconscionable.

Same. I am thinking of all the vaxxes I got as a child and revaxxed in the military.

I was sick as a dog all through basic because of one of those fucking double vaxxes. Didn’t want to go to clinic on base because I didn’t want to get set back and have to stay longer in basic. Seems stupid now.

Salk wrote a book called "survival of the wisest" which just about says it all right there in the title (i.e. be wise don't take the vax)

(Findable PDF online, oh hell here it is: https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Jonas%20Salk%20-%20The%20Survival%20of%20the%20Wisest.pdf )

Thanks fren for taking the time to post this. Quality post. Anons should know they are making real difference in the world.

THANQ for the sticky, mods!

u/star_commander I got this deported to the front page for you, Fren <3

A huge problem with the white coat gremlins is the Schools. Stop funding the madness at these places and this turns around in a hurry.

For me it was coffins and burial procession wakes. People were dying by the thousands. Should have been a run on coffins. No cnn 24/7 fake news blaming everyone but themselves. How about when……. there are so many things to list.

OP, I'm of the older generation, born in the '50's. My parents got us the polio and smallpox vaccine when I was about 6-8 yr old. No one I know of in that generation had any issues with autism etc. I have long been pro vax regarding childhood vaccines but have really had to rethink that stance. One of my granddaughters has been diagnosed with Aspergers. I am devasted about it.

This tells you a lot:

VAERS - Number of deaths per year from vaccines.

https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality

What Is VAERS?

VAERS stands for the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. It’s a nationwide early warning system that helps the CDC and FDA spot possible safety problems with vaccines licensed in the U.S. The government created VAERS in 1990. Anyone can report a possible vaccine side effect (also called an “adverse event”) to the VAERS database, including:

• Patients
• Parents or caregivers of patients
• Doctors and other health care providers

What's the Purpose of VAERS?

VAERS doesn’t determine whether a vaccine caused or played a role in a particular health issue. Rather, it helps experts at the CDC and FDA spot patterns that might be early clues of a problem. This gives them a heads-up that they may need to do more research on a vaccine’s safety https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/vaers-and-vaccine-safety

1. It is important to know that the pharmaceutical companies have stated it takes two weeks for vaccines to work. Therefore, if the death or disability occurs BEFORE 2 WEEKS, IT IS NOT LINKED TO THE JAB, even if someone dies immediately.

2. They also changed the definition of what is a vaccine.

3. Also, VAERS reports only reflect <1% - 10% of all deaths. So the number reported by VAERS can be multiplied by approx. 10 - 100 for a more accurate count.

I used to work in the medical field and I too believed in vaccines until Covid. If I was still working, I would lose my job because I wouldn't take the jab or give it to a patient. When it first came out, I researched what was new about the jab - mRNA and nanobots and said "No Way". Great and honest post, OP.

that was excellent, anon, i hope billions hear you.

"A couple of kind anons dragged me to the woodshed "

lol

The Avian Flu « vaccine » was also covered by the countermeasures program, not the VICP. The list of covered claims should terrify anyone with two brain cells left to rub together

Thanks for the testimonial.