I keep reading how freemasons are evil and do horrible things. Yet I grew up with masons. I'm not evil, nor do I do horrible things. So, being new, and open minded. I would like to have a civilized discussion about the freemasons! And remember. I come from family members whom are passed now, but, were. Masons. I'm open to here. Thank you.
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Freemasonry is a secret society, that at the lower ranks the members don;t actually realise it's an evil society. The initiations and rankings are specifically created to psychologically profile people who would be criminally inclined, and these people are promoted. By the time you reach the top - at level 33, you have understood the nature of the organisation and the true goals. I believe at level 33, they are initiated into the real stuff - Satanism.
So, simply put, fremasonry is a benign front for Satanism, and most freemasons never reach at level.
By the 3rd degree the oath you take is a blatant curse you make upon yourself.
It goes something like this, if I go against my brotherhood, may my heart be pierced.
Heart attack?
So wellcoming in spirits of secrecy and deception each oath builds upon the others.
I once read them all although subliminal you could see by degree your spoken curse is upon yourself and family.
Nothing Godly about it.
Yeah, each degree increases the level towards evilness just a little bit. This is how they sort out the ones who don't "cut it" and select the ones who show promise in being evil as they go higher and higher.
I agree, nothing Godly about any of it. My point is, not all freemasons are evil.
My great great grandfather was 33rd degree worshipful master👎. I've done a lot of research. I came to the realization of generational curses within the family. I rebuke them all.
Conclusion, I cannot follow Jesus and believe freemasonry is anything but evil.
My ladies grandparents were both free masons, and belonged to multiple organizations like the order of the eastern star. They were practicing Christians, so must not had been very high up. But because of their memberships, the family thinks that freemasonry is the coolest thing. I remember finding this really old book in the shop, I opened it and it was written in a strange symbology. Apparently its a secret language of sorts.
I don't believe a true 'born again' christian would be in the masonic order. Jesus spoke against secret societies. When it happened to me my eyes were opened and I had to leave the mormon church, which it's temple ceremonies are similar to masonic oaths as Joe Smith and other early mormons were masons.
Yeps, mormons is another satanic faction.
What with their global conspiracy to... make cookies for their enemies?
He was a lower level guy, just liked wood working and taking care of property and reading his bible. I'm no mind reader but he was a good man.
Yea most low level freemason are they got no idea what they involved in.
Freemason and other satanic orgs basically use the "Boiling frog principle" to train and convert good members into darkness,
YES. I too left the church! Finally someone else says what I have been saying over and over. Holy crap, the oaths, hand symbols and gestures and clothing artifacts used in the mormon temple... if new church-members had a clue.. especially women.. they would never join! When women go through temple marraige and find out just how insignificant a wife is to the church... most cannot even face what it means
As I understand it, Mormonism borrowed a lot from Freemasonry.
This comes from the Freemasons, themselves:
https://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/history/lds/mormonism.html
Good for you for being honest and objective. Glad you know Jesus.
A temple ceremony so secret we send out tens of thousands of missionaries to share it with the world.
Um...Mormons DO NOT SHARE the temple ceremony with potential converts let alone their own kids!! "TOO SACRED" is the buzz phrase. The missionaries aren't even trained to discuss Jo Smiths marrying teenaged girls and already married women...
I got news for you, the current Pope is a Satanist & he's also a practicing Christian. In fact, Satanists have infiltrated the Catholic church according to the Windswept House, Malachi Martin
You can't be both.
There is NOTHING Christian about the pope.
Key word "practicing" = pretending = deceiving.
exactly! The Pope is clearly a practicing Christian! I wonder how many bishops & Priests are? You can sorta tell who the real ones are. The ones who really do care
Yep, like medical practice.
You cannot be both; See- Matthew 6:24
This is old news.
The symbol of the Eastern Star is an inverted pentagram, which symbolizes Baphomet:
https://gnosticwarrior.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Order-of-the-Eastern_Star.jpg
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.352978229.9151/flat,550x550,075,f.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_Mormonism#/media/File:Salt_Lake_Assembly_Hall_Star_of_David.jpg
Why is this on one of the main buildings in in Salt Lake? Why does the star of david look so similar to the sign of satan? My jaw dropped when I saw this, it has zero affiliation with a branch of Christianity, yet here we are.
I say this long prayer with reiterations for the trinity when I feel cursed and consecutive unlikely negative events happen or I get into a rut. https://catholicprayerstotheworld.blogspot.com/2009/08/prayer-against-every-evil.html?m=1
I'm glad to hear you understand how generational curses can exist and that you've rebuked them all!
Freemasonry at inception was good. Just as many others organizations, it has been “taken over” via the Weishaupt/Rockefeller Illuminati secret society started in Belgium then onto France where they tricked Napoleon & then took power after his defeat.
The order spread its wings thru various means like the Vatican, Jesuits (after the coup of WW1) and multiple orders like that of the Rose. They brought with them the Khazarian religion of Luciferian dogma which at the upper ranks is revealed to the Freemasons, by the 33rd degree you are one of “them.”
There’s so much more to the history, many good sources on this online and here.
I wish I did. The book we foolishly shared among believers, mysteriously disappeared. The last one to supposedly have it was the pastor, now believed to be a mason. Be wise, test the spirits.
Be very careful about what you hear about Freemasonry. There are good chapters who deeply believe in America and its founding. I have a family member who is one, and he is a proud patriot who fought for our military. I was shocked when he told me. He is no "lower rank" either. He straight called out the Illuminati. There are bad chapters as well, those who have been infiltrated by the Illuminati or are mostly democrats like the ones in big cities, and ones that are high level government. That being said, I look at Freemasonry like Starwars, it's a knowledge that can be used for good and evil. Like our founding fathers. Who used it for good. And our current Illuminati who use if for evil and subversion. George Washington was well aware that its practices were being subverted and infiltrated by the Illuminati. The way I see it. You can't label all Freemasons evil, and it's really the Illuminati sellouts who have purposefully perverted Freemasonry so that we point the finger at them, and not the assets of the Illuminati.
People call out Freemasonry all the time, but maybe they should be looking at their churches as well. There is a poem, "where there's a steeple in the air, satan builds a chapel there." It's not the group, it's who has infiltrated the group, wherever it may be.
"You're wrong" isn't a counter-argument.
You say it "IS evil" based on what? I could say grapefruit juice IS evil - prove me wrong. Are we just supposed to trust you?
No, actually YOU have to do the homework, since you are the one making the accusation. Our legal (and moral) principle is to assume innocence until guilt is proven. The burden of proof is on you. A long, drawn-out "proof" that takes years to elaborate and understand is on shaky legs.
Well I did my homework and it all says you're full of shit. You can't just say 'Nyah nyah you're wrong and I don't have to show you why' That's fuking retarded.
Q post 1632 - Should the bad spoil the bunch?
MAKE FREEMASONRY GREAT AGAIN
I like how Q becomes the infallable word around here.
Exactly. Generalizations are always a mistake, one that analytical thinkers rarely make.
“Generalizations are always a mistake”
Always? kek
I think all secret societies are detestable. I think we all know this to be true but then twist ourselves up into the most grotesque logic trying to defend them because someone we like is in a secret society, or we hear that George Washington was a Freemason. But if you stop and just think about it, obviously secret societies are wrong.
Oh, well. This would have to include all the government/military classified activities, then. For example, the Manhattan Project. Or what goes on at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. Or what I might be doing as a contractor in a compartmented program.
Unless, of course, you think we should blab our mouths all over the press and internet, revealing all our national defense secrets and making us vulnerable to known adversaries.
The elemental unit of society is the family. Every family has secrets, but we usually refer to that as Privacy. So, you are saying there should be no privacy? Everyone's lives should be made transparent? How far do you want to stretch this absurdity?
York and Scottish rite are available to be joined by any 3rd degree Master Mason. 33rd degree is invite only.
Feel free to pm me if you want information from a real Mason.
the curse is not only against yourself but all the generations of your blood line thereafter ....
you all need to break the curse if your family has been involved ... like minez
How to break the curse?
this channel on youtube had a very long vid about it but it may have been on the bitchute account ...
just so happens syntiny in the universal she actually does a brief denouncement at the very end of todays vid....
its an amazing channel one of my favorites light years ahead of where most of us are thinking .....
enjoy the journey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MyamElvGwM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jBOkPk3AxcsA/
personally i would hunt the bitchute channel for the longer version ... i doubt youtube would have allowed for longer than a few hours ...
Thank you.
quite by accident i found it
feel free to share everywhere
https://youtu.be/ifh9Y3Sf8FU
Do people not even know that oaths such as this are also taken by mormons who go through temple marraige? The warnings not to reveal the secrets if the temple rituals, garbs worn, etc? The LDS church temples are masonic.
Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
-Matthew 5:33-37
Ok, thank you, so just because my family members were masons. Doesn't mean they were evil, correct? I mean, I know we all live our own lives. I have both of their, oh gosh Mason levels in email form. As I -2 yrs ago per family request contacted both of their I guess home lodges. Papa was just a regular freemason in good standing. Resignation. Great grandpa ( other side ) Scottish right mason didn't mention a degree, said wife good standing. The only difference on his was the year of birth. 10 yrs difference. Could be a typo. Idk. I didn't ask. Family didn't question.
Yeah, being freemason doesnt mean evil, but it surely means naughty - because freemasons take oaths to put other freemasons ahead of anyone else in business / government etc. This gives unfair advantage to freemasons - for example a freemason going to court will find the judge (who is also a freemason) would be highly biased towards them, and hence better chance of winning the case.
Similarly a business contractor who is freemason, making a bid for the project has higher chance of winning the bid if the person on the other end is also freemason.
So, this is not nice, but at the same time not evil (But definitely slippery slope). These are usually the same people who are really successful in life, and laugh at others for being straight on narrow. Not saying your dad and granddad were the same, but chances are, being freemasons they were taking advantage of the society to some extent.
With the coming Awakening and increase in spiritual awareness, this is perhaps something you can meditate on, and maybe look back at the family fortunes and perhaps think about ways to give it back to the society.
This is how they hook you.. give you a taste of riches then get you to do more.. etc.
Neither were rich. Nor had riches. Maybe I'm missing something, do you mean other than money? Well, neither had that. I really just want to learn. And am being as honest as I can.
Probably too honest to be promoted to evil riches rank.
Interesting statement, what do you mean?
It seems like the masons that are incorruptible don't get very high ranks. There's has been a few videos released by members that discussed what goes on higher up the ranks. One guy was a singer... I can't remember his name, maybe someone here has a link... I look when I get home...
One test Iv heard is they will ask you to revok Jesus Christ and to spit on the cross. If you refuse, theyll say "you've passed the test."
You get to move up 1 rank, but, you will always stay there.
If you do spit on the cross, you still pass, but youll get to go to the next 2 ranks, where your willingness to do evil will be tested again and again in a way thats subtle.
If I had a super evil club I would want the public to think it was harmless but then test my members to see who is willing to bend the law then promote them and see if they will break the law. If they display reluctance to believe in my cause I would back off and exclude them from the evil doing side of the business.
its about POWER
This sounds suspiciously like a troll bot reply...
u/undine53 I'm not a bot lol. Or were you speaking of the previous response?
I know I'm gonna sound like an asshole, but that's reaaaaaaally close to socialism there.
Note close, it was a bullseye. That's the same language the reparations cult uses.
Voluntary charity/helping his community is not socialism.
Someone suggesting to redistribute their wealth is not charity.
Sins of their fathers and all...
I don't believe in that.
There were/ are no family fortunes. That's one reason I don't understand why they say freemasons are so evil. And cabal etc.. neither of my families have money or treasures or anything. That's why I would like to learn and discuss.
Would be really good to find out what level they were both at. If they never made it past 3, it would explain why no family fortune and also the fact they were actually very nice people. At the first 3 levels its more like a fraternity than anything else.
Yea, I have both of their emailed paperwork from the lodges. Different states of course. But neither say what degree they were. Papas from VA. is totally different than great grand pa's from ILLINOIS. Like I said different sides of family.
I would be interested in updates as you dig more stuff
How could I let you know?
Makes me recall the Rittenhouse trial where he preformed the Master of the Second Veil standing before the judge.
OR, maybe he was just putting something in his jacket pocket.
Not every picture of someone with their hand in their jacket is Masonic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey
Name checks out! How the Mighty have fallen!
You don’t actually think I’m THE Pompey, do you? You do know that dude’s been dead for like 2000 years, right?
Assuming you are aware I’m not him, I fail to see how “name checks out?”
On a side note, using ad hominem attacks instead of refuting my claim does NOT strengthen your argument.
Silly assumption, really. Every person who has a photo taken at the moment they reach inside their jacket, is a Satanist now.... nah.
Who did that?
Rittenhouse did.
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2251934-trial-of-kyle-rittenhouse
I wondered if you meant him, but he's so young, I didn't think anybody that age would or could even be allowed in. Thanks.
Many are taught from Birth. Not outwardly, to be seen by their peers.
What is that?
Some thing that they are said to do to show off who they are or something
I don’t know that I would call supporting other member naughty... In court proceedings, yes, but you’d be hard pressed in business where a competitive edge would be given if potential connections went to the same college.
As a privately held company you are free to do business with whomever you want. If you are a public company then there will be more regulations and corporate responsibilities you might be breaking. You might break anti-trust laws. If you are in a bank and favour certain people while making loans etc, you might be breaking a whole bunch of regulations.
Naughty is probably an understatement in these cases.
Because that happens in business, freemasons or not.
Scientology recruits help feed the poor at stalls giving hand outs to the needy, up the food chain it's racketeering, kidnap, stalking, murder etc.
Ok, another interesting angle. That side of family from the South, not that means scientology couldn't be involved. Would you mind elaborating?
Well, when you say involved, all these things are ran by the same people basically. DYOR but could start here.
http://lermanet.org/scientology-and-occult/scarlet-and-the-beast.html
I was making a more generalised point though that just about any organisation, any, the people lower down are plebs, the middle ranks are full of true believers getting paid nothing for the effort they put in, and the top are sharks. This is true whether we're talking about walmart, the dnc, nike, whatever. Specifically though, most alternative belief systems and cults and whatever else are ran by the puppet masters.
Nope way dead before this. Both of them. And the wives. But thank you.
As i mentioned a lot of veterans joined together after the wars keeping the brotherhood together so to speak, to the lower levels it was a means of business networking so perhaps your grandfather joined up as my grandfather did …. Let’s shake on that lol , most are Presbyterian as for some reason you can’t join if your a Catholic
Well if ur a freemason you also can't be Catholic so there. ANATHEMA
Papa reg freemason never went to church. Don't know if that means anything. Great grandpa Scottish right mason was Lutheran. Don't know if that means anything?
Lutherans are Germanic Presbyterians or closely associated with.
Papa wasn't religious. He was very Patriotic. That's where I get that from. Just not religious. I get that elsewhere.
I think a lot of it at the lower levels is benign. More like a club than secret society. My family members going back up the tree included many masons. Some were good people and I am sure didnt make it very far. One was not a good person and was very high up regionally and possibly nationally. My great great grandfather so theres not a lot of specific info other than family lore. He however was not a good man. I think its a chicken/egg situation. Being a mason doesnt make you bad, you are what you are and at a low/entry level you are still that person. But at each level you take another oath, at the highest levels cursing your own family and generations after. You at that point are trapped and couldnt get out if you wanted to. I would have to believe there is a reason you arent allowed to leave. They arent worried you will talk about the great bourbon and cigars you shared over the weekend. They would only require those oaths if there was more to hide. My mother spent a lot of time researching the rites, oaths and curses at each level to try to break her children, me and my siblings, from that line of generational curses. I will see if i can get some of her resoures she used and pass them along to you to research for yourself. If you family was in the Illinois area its quite likely they knew mine if they went up to a high enough level. I will see what I can find and share it
Thank you, I appreciate that.
I didn't know that... my brothers a mason- we were raised Catholic, he doesn't participate in Catholicism anymore (nor do I).
Another brother went to a few meeting and stopped going.... the mason absolutely hates him over it.
Catholics have been at war with Masonry since the Babylonian religion infiltrated & corrupted the knights Templars back in the 13th Century.
Roman Catholicism is the Babylonian religion, and has merely disguised its pagan traditions with Christian terminology in many cases.
Wrong. The RCC has been burning witches, conquering pagan lands since Rome was converted to Christianity. You wouldn’t have a Europe much less Christiandom had it not been for the RCC.
The RCC has been at war with the Babylonian mystery religion since it executed the Knights Templars we’re tempted & seduced by the Kabbalah. Freemasonry is nothing more than black Magik Kahbala for goys; research the centuries worth of quotes from Catholic Popes that warned against Freemasonry. Popes we’re against it as recent as Pius XII. After him, Masonry took over the church & ruined it with Vatican II. Show me a Prodestant leader that openly opposes Freemasonry.
Sorry, there’s a reason why Communists & Masons have tried desperately to destroy the true church of Christ. There is a reason why Satanists have black masses & imitate the Holy Sacramentd & pray in Latin; it’s because the Traditional Roman Catholic Church is the TRUE church of Christ.
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BS
Not really adding a whole lot to the discussion here.
Swap freemasons for politicians. Some politicians are absolutely corrupt. Is everyone in politics corrupt? No.
Now we need to take into account the Deep State process. How do they select people for the top jobs? If you are not curruptible, cannot be bribed or blackmailed into working for them then you will probably never be given the opportunity to be promoted past a certain point.
That is partly why they hated Donald Trump so much. He went straight in to the top job but was not under their control. He had to be removed.
This isn’t true at all. All Scottish Rite temples have libraries open to the public with a thousand works on freemasonry.
I’m not confused, I have been a 32nd degree Mason since 2001. I can unequivocally state that you’re completely ignorant on the subject.
That doesn't sound like a very secret society.
Watch this. On a side note, this guy's testimony towards the end of the video brought the Holy Spirit down on me and I haven't been the same since. My cage was rattled and I saw the light, hallelujah!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Yhv9ZMby68Ig/
YES, THIS u/callmemisty this is a LONG but THOROUGH crash course that uses primary sources. You can skip over the celeb picture proofs to save time but I think it adds to the whole thing. I knocked it out entirely one Sunday afternoon.
u/Callmemisty this is the link I came here to share ^
This pretty much nails it on the head.
These types of secret societies are good at the base level but that's all for show. They eventually groom people through rituals that separate those who are willing to be evil. Like spitting on a cross. For instance, the initiated who refuse to spit on the cross are commended for their strong convition to chirst and are told they have passed the test. However, they will not continue up the ranks in the right path. Thos who spit on the cross will be shown another door of opportunity to advance in the true purpose of the socity. This all leads to Satanism. Do not be fooled. A good man can go their whole life being a free Mason not knowing the truth because they were not fit to serve Satan.
Curious, at what point is spitting on the cross is associated with the oaths? Thanks
It's not a litteral thing. It was just an example. One I think I got from the book Behold A Pale Horse, when discussing this topic.
I thought I heard it before but wasn't sure where. I started listen to Bill Cooper last spring, haven't since. I need to finish the series.
I have read that spitting on a crucifix is the initiation for the 33rd degree. There’s a scene in House of Cards where Kevin Spacey gives some long speech to the camera (probably encoded) and then spits on a crucifix in a church, looks at the camera, and smiles knowingly. Probably masons winking to each other through their propaganda.
Would you mind posting the link so I could watch?
My grandpa was a freemason. Presumably very high up. Wonderful, magnaminous man and an actual hero for his actions in the Coast Guard. Was he a pedophile? I doubt it. Did he live a secret life that my grandma knew nothing of? Absolutely!
I thought nothing of it. Still have some of his masonic trinkets until I figure out what to do with them.
It's important to remember that someone can do bad things if they believe that those things are good. Even Satanic people believe that evil is good. This is how they are able to do their heinous deeds.
The key is to compartmentalize and rationalize. Your grandfathers did some shocking and disgusting things to be allowed into the cult of Freemasonry. But they were brainwashed to believe that it was in the name of brotherhood and uplifting their fellow man. Spatter in a good mix of charitable acts and people can justify keeping a secret life from even their closest loved ones.
I know because I have witnessed the despicable secretive acts of those pillars of society who practice Freemasonry. Their families had no idea what they were up to.
Good insight👍
Most evil pieces of shit do not go around bragging about their evil deeds. Unless you are a childhood victim who is being groomed to take over the 'family business' you have no need to be in the know. As far as op knows there is no wealth tied to his dead masonic relatives but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's just piles of cash that could be hidden and doesn't even consider the more sick things that can be used as payment among each other. You never really know a person wether you like it or not. Humans are very good at compartmentalizing their actions and convincing themselves of whatever is necessary to keep on moving. It's a gift and a curse.
the men on the bottom don't know what the ones at the top actually do.
I thank the mods so much for my first stickie. And I thank all of the anons who posted on this thread. For your openness and honesty. For once there was no bickering back and to. I appreciate that more than you know. I wanted open and honest opinions. No matter which direction they may have taken me. Or us. I have a more clear seeing of how the freemasons work, in a small town now. Just as I've read, thought and said daaammnn! In some instances. But, let me repeat, from a small town perspective!
Believe it or not, Freemasonry even entered third world countries.
my grandmother's uncle was a practicing mason, he encouraged my grandmother to read books after books of masonry, supposedly later to initiate her, something my grandmother noticed is that her uncle sometimes had a little more money, but then the money was scarce, it was like a kind of curse, as long as he was "faithful" to the principles of the Freemasons "there would be" money.
Another thing that she noticed is that within her uncle's family, there were many unexplained deaths, even within my grandmother's family, she had to go live with her uncle Mason who was also her godfather, because her parents were they committed suicide.
My grandmother suffers from outbursts of madness and sometimes she gets depressed, she is a Christian but in her own way, and deaths have also occurred again, like that of her son who died young, and my grandmother has always suffered from many diseases.
this of Freemasonry leads to curses and goes against the moral principles of society.
many rites and initiations are chilling things as they appear in Masonic books.
Really? Like, how?
my grandmother never wanted to tell me, I suppose for fear of remembering what she read.
she believes that having read all that led her to suffer many illnesses and possible curses within her family.
edited: What she did tell me was possible family sacrifices, but she's not sure, since she read it when she was just 12 years old.
At the low level it's a good old boys club where gentlemen get together to discuss business. If you are a pedo you get promoted to kiddie fiddler and can rise through the ranks.
So, is it safe to " assume" that when the word " mason, masons freemasons is thrown out there, they, whomever is making the post is actually talking about someone in the society of a higher rank?
Likely. They are specifically referring to the satanic pedophiles. If you are a mason and not a satanic pedophile then you are obviously not included - except for being associated with such a cult.
Alternatively we are completely wrong and it's a group of upstanding citizens...
Oh, so, it is Not ok to " assume" that then. As I come from a family who are catogoized as a " group of upstanding citizens". Oh God!
You can’t assume anything even your family members’ Masonic actions
You will be going against Satan when you do spiritual warfare against his highest priest. Very dangerous if you don't put in the full armor of God. I can personally speak on this . My father was a 32 degree and I prayed for 10yrs before his death in 2011 for Jesus to save him. I removed all items in his house that had dragons and other material. ( without him knowing). When he came to live with me for home care, we started reciting the Lord Prayer every night. I asked if he wanted to come back to Jesus and he said yes and had him baptized. I didn't mention the Masons for God knows. The day he died, around 830 am and after making the arrangements for the funeral home to pick him up from my house we started calling family and friends to let them know. His childhood friend who was a retired Army Colonel (also a 33 Mason ) wife answered the phone. When we told her dad had passed around 830 she freaked out saying that Gene, dad's friend, was carrying on a conversation with himself at that time and she asked him who was he talking to? He said he just saw Sam ( my Dad) and he was at a party with all of his family and with Gene's family and that he wanted to go!. E held my father's services within a few days and in the way to the service Gene's wife called me saying Gene saw my Dad again and she hasn't told him that dad had passed and he is demanding to talk to Dad. So when I got in the phone after she told me not to tell him because he is weak, I asked Gene what happened and what did Dad say. He said that Dad told him to " forget about the papers you signed, to come on its worth it". I told him that Dad was in rehab and was doing really well. Three days later I went to Gene and asked about his conversation with Dad. He told me. I said that Dad was telling him to renounce the Masons that the papers he signed to forget it. Would he like to come back to Jesus and he said yes. Afterwards I told him that he was a priest to a Satanic alter and he said yes its true and was the worst thing he ever did in his life. I told him that God is bigger than any of that and to accept it and be forgiven. Also to find any papers from the masons and destroy them.
My life was severely attacked within a few months. That year I had 9 deaths. The next year I fell from my horse and broke my back went to the Hospitaland the told me the pain was in my mind and sent me home where I laid in bed for 2wks. I went back to the hospital via ambulance and demanded a xray on my back. Lo and behold my back was broken and the hospital sent me to another where a Nero surgeon fused me from L2 to L5 with rods and bone fill. I had a bursted L3 and any point during those 2wks I could have paralyzed myself.The next year I lost everything to where I was almost homeless.
Our God is merciful. I've since recovered to the point I'm testing for my black belt in Karate, I just bought my first home this year, small, but on the water ( even during a Pandemic) and because I'm months away from turning 65 ( 3mos before 65th birthday and 3 mos after) and never bought health insurance ( I was on medicaid and I didn't even know and only use it for prescriptions since 2017) I was eligible to get Medicare G ppo health plan with no deductible, no max, no copay, no out of pocket expense at any Dr or Hospital. No health screening ( I was worried about having to get the clot shot). It also included long term care and equipment for 193.00 month. I just got this few days ago when I found out I was on Medicaid and if I waited any longer to call the insurance marketplace, I was told I would have missed out on this. Thank you Lord for your unearned Mercy and Grace...
Be careful when you go against Satan's priests. Be strong in the Lord because Satan will try to kill you.
Satan and his priest are nothing but vermin. I piss on them all and they got no power over Gods soldiers.
Dont be afraid they are nothing
I've often wondered if my cousins murder suicide of his family was Satan striking back at me for getting out of research and into red pill outreach. It just makes zero sense knowing how much he sacrificed to raise his kid only to do the unthinkable. We have wealthy families so it couldn't have been money issues. He had tons of family support to keep the kid out of daycare and things like that. No history of mental illness. One of the reasons I'm a firm believer in so much that gets discussed on these boards is I've had conversations with people that unknowingly confirm things that I've researched without ever bringing up those topics at all with them. An Ms13 affiliated friend has had their life ruined because somebody with power decided they wanted to take his wife. They literally blew up his house but God sent him a sign and got him out of there before he went with it. I hope he's still okay. Last I heard he woke up in a hospital and checked himself out against medical advice. Be careful frens. Life gets dangerous when you decide to pick a side.
My dad and his father were both freemasons, idk what levels. My dad was an Episcopal clergyman and I could never understand how those 2 affiliations could fit together. I wound up with a ceremonial sword ornately-engraved with freemasonry symbols and scrollwork that belonged to my grandfather which I gave to my own son (I had no interest in keeping it and he's always been a D&D/gaming enthusiast and would find it cool). Tbh it always creeped me out having it in my house.
Get rid of it , rebuke the curse.
Q POST 1632
“MAKE FREEMASONRY GREAT AGAIN… SHOULD THE BAD SPOIL THE BUNCH?”
1632 - Jun 28, 2018 8:04:44 PM EDT
“Make Freemasonry Great Again.
The Clowns infiltrated it and have been abusing it's hierarchy for far too long.” -1947578
Most all powerful organizations have sinister components.
With power comes corruption.
Like alphabet agencies, not all are bad apples.
Should the bad spoil the bunch? Q
Thanks for this.
My grandpa was a Mason, 3rd degree, and from what my dad shared with me, via his shaky memory, grandpa' lodge only went to the 3rd degree. The Masons is generally a good organization, for men to get together, enjoy each other's company, without women, and do good works for their community. Most members aren't a part of the disease the illuminati (illusionatti really) brought in.
The Masons were co-opted long ago, which brought in the notion of satan worship to those whom spit on cross. I fear there's been a campaign by this faction to bring down the entire organization, with all the good men... so as to divide and weaken a force that has the power to help disable the cabal and/or do well in the rebuilding in the post deep state world. I believe Altiyan Childs's video is part of this campaign.
Oh wow! I didn't know there was a q post about it. Thank you!
Anonymous 06/28/18 (Thu) 18:23:08 c3ab3b (3) No.1947578>>1947591 >>1947598 >>1947604 >>1947631 >>1947637
Make Freemasonry Great Again.
The Clowns infiltrated it and have been abusing it's hierarchy for far too long.
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/1947429.html#1947578
u/#q1632
There is a very thin veneer of legitimacy (largely for plausible deniability) in freemasonry. The secrecy, the oaths and the rituals are all designed to hide the truth, bind the adherents and indoctrinate the followers on their progression toward full blown satanism. The access to the higher rankings is protected by a selection process that verifies the candidate's willingness to embrace the dark agenda.
The sad reality is that most of the non-Mason population, including wives, children and relatives have no idea of the evilness within masonry.
Resources:
Altiyan Childs Exposes Freemasonry
Bill Cooper - Interviews a 32' Degree Freemason Masonic Secrets
Be not deceived - masonry is evil. Do not believe the public narrative about it either.
Blindly, they deal with the curse generationally .
Do they Glorify the Father in Heaven or do they glorify themselves? Do they accomplish anything for the betterment of all of all or just those within their ranks? Do they, inwardly or outwardly, hold status over their fellow man? This happens within and without their group. Do they withhold information that could help all? Do they adorn themselves with trinkets? Do they build for themselves treasures on Earth?
I know a few myself and most you wouldn't consider evil in any way, it just cannot be seen with our eyes. Because they are hidden!
Do they ask for the things that they seek in the name of Jesus, who says if you believe in him anything you ask for shall be yours, or are they in the practice of making stuff happen?
Do they give a man a fish rather than teaching a man to fish?
We MUST still love these people!!! They are being used as tools, even at the top, by something that is evil.
Huh? I know your quoting some scripture. But, help me out please. Huh? I'm literally blind ok! On this anyway.
Open your eyes! You can see!
Jesus set everyone free from the oppressors that be.
Anyone that holds dominion over their fellow man (all people) would be deliberately against the Word of the Father. Anyone that builds a temple for themselves goes against the Word of the Father. Anyone that would withhold information that would help others goes against the Word of the Father. I think that their greatest evil truly is denying the Word of the Father and making their OWN way. Which is allowed, free will. This only serves as a way to embolden their own community.
An idiom believed to be derived from the words of Jesus, give a man a fish and he eats for a day but teach a man to fish and he eats for life. Charity for the sake of charity is no good, rather we should teach people how to get what they need. Jesus made this clear for us. Anyone that believes in Him may ask for and receive anything that they want through their own personal Faith in Him. If they aren't helping to raise the Faith and instead are using their own ends to erect their own Glory.....
I would suggest you read the Bible, your choice, but if you do start with the words of Christ. The whole of the Bible is a History book that is meant to lean towards the story of Christ being true so the whole is not necessary at first and can be confusing.... Start with the Words of Jesus Christ and expand on that. I read Leviticus a few years ago after wholly grasping what Jesus had done. Leviticus is a book of laws and Christ set us free from those laws. Our laws in Christ are simple to keep and ultimately good for all of mankind. When reading Leviticus I drew parallels through today's laws and made a startling discovery that the laws are meant to have dominion over their fellow man. Keep them in line. They used these Laws to cast asunder those they felt were less than them, and to REMOVE such from society. Strictly forbidden by Christ as all men are created equal and all are equal in the Eyes of the Father. This is why talking about sin is so important. WE ARE ALL GARBAGE!!!! WE ALL ARE AWFUL!! WE ALL FALL SHORT THE GLORY OF THE FATHER! The Father is not surprised by this in the slightest and He loves EACH and EVERY one of us the same. He wishes that we would turn to him to help us. He wants a personal relationship with all of us!
It is written that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Christ is Lord so I am not too concerned with calling these people out for GOING TO HELL! We are also called to love our enemy so it would be dumb to ask you to hate your dad or grampa. As they likely are not, they will just have one hell of a Judgement Day, that will quite likely feel as though they are going through hell. But I feel that it will just be a correction in their ways.
Hope this helps, but you can call on the Heavenly Father for clarification and the Bible should help as well.
Source? It's not the Bible, that I can tell you.
Tis an idiom.
Chinese
Follow me and I will make you fishers of men. would be the appropriate words of Christ. Thank you as I had to look that up! Let it be known that none are perfect besides the Father above.
We can expound on that if you would like. As Christ said that none that follow him will hunger or thirst. You gotta believe.
I will correct the post!
This says it is a proverb (not sure if it is in the Bible as such): https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/teach+a+man+to+fish
Or ask specific questions and I will try to answer them without paragraphs.
My great grandpa was high-ranking Scottish rite. His daughter, my grandma, was a daughter of the Nile. Let me put it this way...my grandma participated in seances( had stories of seeing spirits), I found photos of her and other member dressed in very strange garbs, she was a "progressive" liberal back in the day completely defying the traditional woman of having kids and staying at home. She refused to breastfeed and worked through my mom's childhood. Not because she had to, bit because she defied the "norms". I'm not saying this is relevant to free-masonry, but gives a synopsis of lifestyle.
My uncle is one too, pretty smart ordinary guy. He’s presumably just at the lower ‘fraternity club’ level and doesn’t know the occultish esoteric stuff
As far as I've read, and heard yes.
They gathered in secret societies to avoid getting found and killed by the King, but from all accounts, Washington was a noble man.
George Washington was a Freemason and also a secret Catholic.
The great grandpa his lodge papers says Born Germany 1894 Master Masons Scottish right. He according to his tombstone wasn't born until 1904 what I was told Prussia. Idk. Like I said 10 yr diff. I know he's Scottish right. I know he's master mason. Idk what that means!? And why the diff in birthdate?
Secrets and deception my friend
Scottish Rite just to be precise
Yes, I kept spelling it wrong.
And Thank You Mods for the stickie! Very cool.
Lower ranks are just business contacts ect. Higher ranks require initiation.
I know one aspect is that the Scottish Rite are the high priests, your not alone my dear old Grandfather a Royal Irish veteran of the Somme was a member in Scotland though I just think he joined up to escape the horrors he witnessed in the trenches , there were a lot as you’d imagine after the war that came back to no future so the lodges provided some security and networking to gain employment
What year was that? Ggf was born 1904. In Prussia.
Would have been after armistice 1918 on words , he passed away in 1978 and used to show me some of the secret hand shakes they use, but deep down I don’t think he got to deep into it as he was more loyal to the orange order where he was a Chaplin
I like your grandfather, his story sounds like a true Ulsterman. My great grandfathers were at the Somme in the 36th UVF.
Family involved with the orange as well.
It's good to hear a fren talking about a loyal brothers deeds.
No Surrender
Loyal followers of King William of orange , my grandfather was wholly devoted to the orange order and we still have his orange sashes ordained with religious pins I’m just not sure how it all fits in with his free masonry, I can only gather that he picked it up stuck in the trenches in the Somme with the Royal Irish Ulster regiment
I had almost forgot this was a thing: Look up the 19th century “Anti-Masonic Party” and look at what the Wikipedia lists as its legacy:
Of course, why wouldn't they use their advantage to do that?
Oohh interesting. Thank you. I will.
I just went and found the emails. Took me awhile. Can't find papas. But found great grandpa's. His. Master mason Scottish order.
Wow…
Freemason build you fake world. They are a satanic org only the high degree masons know the real truth. The lower mason pretty much all think its esoteric christian knowledge.
You father and you grand father was a satanist and depends on their rank what they knew or didn't know.
If you are a 33degreee freemason you are fully aware. And the reason why they wonderful because they taught to behave that way and its impossible to get out of if you betray you satanic brothers you will be killed.
Wow! Ok. First. It's papa. And great grand father. Diff sides of family.
And as far as papa. No he was I'm sure low level just can't find his email info yet. Great Grandpa master mason Scottish order have no clue. Just says basically he and my great grandma were in good standing. Besides his raising/ rising dates. Plus 10 yr wrong on dob. Other than that. I'm interested in your knowledge! I'm trying to learn all avenues.
Many high degree mason who betrayed their order has now come out with information its all over the internet even some of there most precious secret books. Also several videos exist.
A good video I saw some times ago that was perfect to educate the beginners was Altiyan Child 5 hour video. Its long but he is well spoken and educated about the subject. I highly recommend you watch it might be the best video for a beginner we got atm.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Yhv9ZMby68Ig/
Thank you
Once you see it, it makes sense why people shout “privilege” at certain groups. It is because they benefit off the spoils of being a part of a secret society while excluding others. The good thing is that it is all being exposed.
You welcome.
By itself it's a noble and daring group of sophisticated men who commit themselves to freeing their minds of old cabal superstitious MK bullshit, and to aiding other men in such pursuit. Most lodges are basically that.
Like any other institution, the Subversion compromises and infiltrates and blackmails and bribes to steer its legitimate structure toward their nefarious ends.
There are exceptions of course: English cop masons know it's wicked and want the influence and protection. Same w fsggot cops everywhere.
Do you find it noble? To curse yourself and your family? The words you say in an oath have power. Ask yourself are they demonic or Godly.
Any rejection of advantage or gain in favor of knowledge of truth is the definition of noble, yes.
Not if you use those connections to exploit and exclude others from a livelihood and community acceptance. That’s not okay but it’s been how certain people have operated for generations. Ncswic and it’s over soon. They are dying off.
I agree in principle but since i extend that to include capital it means that everyone is guilty of that so i also forgive it when the influence one wins is used toward some general decency
I realize that we have never lived in a pure world without evil attacking from all sides. So many have been fooled but once YOU become aware, if you stay, you are complicit. I no longer give anyone grown the benefit of the doubt on this
Yeah well you're still here using dollars so maybe check your plank eye
Lame. It’s hard to defend the indefensible, I get it. Move along!
We do that in capitalist systems all the time. Or would you give away patents or recipes or anything your business uses to get ahead? Would you hire by ability, or try to include all groups like diversity hires?
Or am I misreading?
You mean Jews right? Lol bc i agree that Judaism or human freedom must end. There's no room for both on earth
No room for European and derivative masons either. They work together. Remember Catholic Church and Jews killed Jesus. Don’t you see this? It’s control. This is all about God not religion. All evil!
Here is the church's opinion: https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_18840420_humanum-genus.html
Do you recognise masonic symbols here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17df81RL9Y
Now read those lyrics in the description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eZZBZLNpNU
Explicitly satanic (with a female Satan). And Aurora is a cute and talented artist. Satanists can give a good first impression.
I think freemasons are the ones who scream "it's the jews!" every time someone is close to seeing their conspiracies.
What degree were they? Do you know?
1 °--Apprentice
2°--Fellow-craft
3 °--Master
4°--Secret Master
5°--Perfect Master
6°--Intimate Secretary
7°--Provost and Judge
8°--Intendant of the Building
9°--Elu of the Nine
10°--Elu of the Fifteen
11°--Elu of the Twelve
12°--Master Architect
13°--Royal Arch of Solomon
14°--Perfect Elu
15 °--Knight of the East
16°--Prince of Jerusalem
17°--Knight of the East and West
18°--Knight Rose Croix
19°--Pontiff
20°--Master of the Symbolic Lodge
21°--Noachite or Prussian Knight
22°--Knight of the Royal Axe or Prince of Libanus
23°--Chief of the Tabernacle
24°--Prince of the Tabernacle
25 °--Knight of the Brazen Serpent
26°--Prince of Mercy
27°--Knight Commander of the Temple
28°--Knight of the Sun or Prince Adept
29°--Scottish Knight of St Andrew
30°--Knight Kadosh
31°--Inspector Inquisitor
32°--Master of the Royal Secret
The 33° is an honorary degree and its title is Inspector General Honorary, but it's not the same as an honorary academic degree. I'm pretty sure the requirement is a combination of 32° and time served, along with "contributions" to the order.
https://archive.md/5cgTr
What you'll want to do is get your hands on a copy of Morals and Dogma and read about who the real god of the Freemasons is.
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All of these quotes are from Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike.
Brazen serpent = bold brass serpent Brass is an alloy of bronze and zinc In the old testament a Nehushtan was given for protection from the seraphim or burning serpents aka angels. There is reasons to suggest yahweh is depicted as a dragon in the old testament and to the Hebrew. Flames from the nostrils great wings and virgin sacrifice etc. Vlad the impaler named Dracula son of the dragon from house of the dragon. Lots of dragon symbolism.
Only if you're a commie faggot.
hehe
Simple, brutish but truthful.
One thing I noticed about Gods soldiers,Chosen, Watchers and the Called is we are deeply wounded, brutish and sometimes even obnoxious but our heart is at the right placed.
And maybe this is all that was required at us and to be fair in a sea of degenerates, master of lies, thieves, murderers and general human filth that has done everything they could to destroy everyone around them. its actually a miracle that the light still shines.
His appearance doesn't change anything so it would be no less retarded than a bearded man in the clouds. And if you don't like it be upset at the Bible for putting it out there not me. I'm not the one suggesting it, the Bible is.
Because they do bad shit and hide behind being “good people”
I was in Washington DC recently and sitting near the Washington monument. I kept asking myself why did they build this huge phallus symbol for George Washington? Why do freemasons insist on a huge F-you to God?
🤔 hmmm. That's why I have this discussion/ research thread. I don't think all freemasons do. But , however there may be some leaning to the higher ups in the ranks. I have Not research myself yet. Yet that is a very good question!
My father was a Shriner. He never talked about it, I never saw him wear a fez. The only way I knew about his involvement was by reading his obituary. He was a dentist and I wonder if all professionals are members of one or more "secret' societies.
One of my uncle's was a Shriner ( papas ) wife's brother. So much great info in this thread. I wondering myself!
You have the intellectual curiosity we as a country need, I salute you. And I agree, seeing all different perspectives and sources in this thread makes me proud of this community. I love it here, I like patriots.win, too, but they're a bit more...hostile lmao
DC, Vatican and City of London financial district all have famous obelisks. They are all three independent city states--military, religious, financial. FM at the low levels teach you must believe in God to join. It results in job advancement because of the rules and networking. Lotta people in society join up. To advance to the highest, most powerful and wealthy levels of society, you have to be blackmailable, and you are taught that God is Lucifer, the Great Architect. There are so many websites that explain a lot about FM and show photos of famous people flashing FM hand signs. After you learn to recognize some of their satanic symbols, you will see them everywhere. Also you can see them in paintings and drawings of past eras. These things are all cabal connected. It's a big club and you ain't in it. My mother was invited to join when she lived in a small town, but she was black balled at her initial meeting. I reckon it's good they decided not to allow her in. A couple of my schoolteachers admitted to being masons. Musta been low level.
Freemasonry was infiltrated by the Bavarian illuminati and turned into luciferianism long ago
I've read a lot of different things about the Masons, but the only direct experience I have with it is my friend's dad. He's a Mason, and to hear him tell it, it's nothing but a social club. I think he's only 1st or 2nd degree. He's just a regular guy who has 2 stickers on the back of his Jeep, Masons and Fraternal Order of Police (he's a detective).
I was browsing through a book written by a mason, talking about one of their big secrets, namely that there are 2 gods: the Jewish/Christian god (very strict, not fun) and the god of the masons, Lucifer. But don't worry, the author said, b/c Lucifer is not the evil being portrayed by the Christians, but Lucifer is actually a fun-loving god who just wants the best for everyone! I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read that.
Author of deception stop reading , ha.