Salty Cracker and Wall Street Apes are now insinuating it. The op was a success, they've created a narrative binary where either space lasers did it or climate change (MSM narrative) did it. Meanwhile the much more likely story (strategic arson ahead of high winds + collusion with crooked state and local officials to mishandle the response on purpose) has effectively been shoved under the rug. Now instead of having the entire internet digging into that to possibly find some arsonists or conspiracies to mishandle response, they are instead "laser focused" on space lasers.
Of course, if the DEW theory is correct, this is fine. I just don't think it is.
endrant
If people suspect government is behind it, that's a huge win. Just a few years ago, that would have been unthinkable for a normie.
This is true. Perhaps it's not entirely bad to have it go viral on the back of DEW theory...
"There's fuckery afoot!" is one of the first things that go through our minds when we first start to wake up.
“Something isn’t right. They’re not telling me the truth.”
Absolutely. When you're awake, you start questioning things more and more.
Has anyone yet considered the fact that the letters D-E-W correspond to 4-5-23 ?
This could be interpreted as 45 (Trump) and 23 (grand jury), which seems to be a popular combination lately.
Re-read all the DEW tweets with this in mind and see if anything jumps out.
the reason why i think its Not true, is because i just dont see Trump's created Space force doing it. now could it be some Rogue agency like CIA....perhaps. but i bet space force would have taken it from them like he did the Sats.
Apparently, there is a Dew site on Maui. https://youtube.com/shorts/Ll6fmiqF_l0?si=qEboecbg_BIl0lBm
Irregular Information warfare
psst.. this is how they start color revolutions.. just sayin.
Exactly! People are waking up and the corrupt local, state and feds are in the open. Are we acting like DEWS aren’t possible or real? Call it arson what does that change? The Antifa rats burned half the fucking West Coast just a few years ago. We need to continue to expose climate change for the racket it is.
They float a bunch of theories out purposely to put our mind on the how instead of the why
If they actually give a shit whilst suspecting the government we.have moved to phase 4
All I gotta say is...
This was not a "WILD FIRE."
This was a CITY FIRE.
Sauce.
Edit: Cities do not just spontaneously combust. Lahaina is not 1871 Chicago, IL for crying out loud. The whole point of modern building codes, fire departments, and water hydrants on every side of every city block is to avoid a Great Chicago Fire ever happening again.
No way in hell is this climate change. Whether it's a DEW or coordinated malfeasance by emergency responders, something happened to start a massive fire in the city, not the "wilds" surrounding the city of Lahaina.
The media blackout, just like after the Las Vegas shooting, is to silence anyone and everyone who knows what really happened from speaking about it. I won't be surprised if survivors disappear or tragically die in the weeks to months ahead.
"Oh, so and so survived the Lahaina Fire but somehow their car flew off a cliff. So tragic. Can't believe it."
They brought in the Las Vegas Sheriff that covered up the shooting. They sent kids home. Turned off the water but not the power. Blocked all the exit routes out of the fire. Never sounded any kind of alarm. Currently refusing to allow emergency supplies in. Implemented a media blackout. Doubled down on every single "mistake" that was made. Tried to buy up the property BEFORE they even got the bodies out. Now they are sending shills out to social media to tell us it was all just a horrible accident. Bullshit.
thank you for this link! Saved that
You are welcome u/winn 👈
I don't expect the link to last very long so make a hard copy.
Excellent report. It is a predictable trap that needs to be recognized. It really doesn't matter if it was 'space-age' DEWs or not. It boils down to the believability factor. And it's obvious to me, in regards to the public believing it...., it becomes too high of a mountain to climb. How many Americans are going to believe it? I've said it before and I'll say it again. There's no doubt in my mind that the technology exists and is available. However, the problem that always remains is whether the greater public believes it. IMHO, the believability factor is on par with getting people to believe in alien abductions. We are in a PsyOp war with the DS an our government. The government always uses 'plausible deniability', and just like with the many reported UFO encounters, they will call anyone a 'crackpot' for bringing up the subject. Alex Jones got mocked and discredited for the 'frogs turning gay' statement, which actually has some truth to it and came from an accredited scientific study on Atrazine that was running off into the water shed and were "turning frogs gay". Even Wikipedia cites this as being true.
The point I'm making here is It’s much easier to fool people than to convince them that they’ve been fooled. Or in this case, it's much easier to LIE to people than to convince them they've been LIED to.
It's always best to keep it simple. There's no need to get into the details. Just point out what is most obvious to everyone:
Fire prevention practices throughout the Lahaina area were purposely neglected and previously abandoned.
The fires in Maui were purposely set.
The water was turned off.
No fire fighting units were dispatched to prevent the fires from descending into the city.
The roads were blocked by the police preventing people from escaping in their vehicles when the conflagration rapidly approached.
Over a thousand people died as a result.
The cover-up has become blatantly obvious.
And Why won't the officials mention any word about all the missing children?
Sometimes explaining DEW is as easy as sharing the Wikipedia link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1#/media/File:Airbornelaserturret.jpg
… and asking simple question: ”What is this laser designed for?”
If someone burned down your home. Destroying all your earthly possessions...
Would spend all your energy trying to figure out if they used a zippo, a bic, or a pack of matches? Or... Would you want to know who and why?
If you're investigating a murder, you need to know what the murder weapon was.
True, but how it happened needs to be feasible. We need only look to WWII and the fire bombing of cities.
As it relates to the public en mass, it reminds me of the 'axiom' spoken by Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men". I mean.... who can handle the truth? The answer is, 'not many'. This extends to the level of pointing their noses to overwhelming proof. It can only be explained by cognitive dissonance. The Great Awakening is more of the '100th monkey' effect than anything else. It's best to point out the obvious facts of what occurred leading up to and occurring on that fateful day. The ensuing cover-up is becoming the greater crime and is being clearly seen.
And the answer is: shooting down ballistic missiles in boosting flight. No secret about that. Not only does the turret need to acquire the elevation and azimuth of the target independent of the motion of the airplane, it has to be able to rotate the aperture to face aft so it is not continually exposed to the airstream while not in use.
Using it to shoot at the ground fails on several counts. (1) There is no targeting system or targeting concept for ground targets. (I actually analyzed this problem for the YAL-1A program.) (2) If there are clouds below the YAL-1A, no targets will be seen (if it had the sensors to see them with, which it did not). (3) If there are water clouds below the YAL-1A, there is the likelihood they would absorb the beam (water is an absorber of most infrared radiation). (4) If there are smoke clouds, the target would be obscured and the beam would be scattered.
This is all idle bullshitting, as the YAL-1A was scrapped not long after its mission success in 2010. Existing DEWs under field test are designed to engage air targets only from the ground or water surface. If you want to light a fire, use a match. Much easier, and it doesn't put you into the wild-eyed ignoramus camp.
From ground mounted laser to space satellite reflector back to ground.
That is hilarious. It makes no optical sense whatsoever. The targeting image would have to go up to the satellite and down to the laser. You need to have two separate telescope systems on the satellite to pass the beam two ways, with large apertures. (I did a system analysis of this architecture a long time ago.) And how long do you think such a satellite would be in position to exploit the geometry before it passes over the horizon? And we still don't have any sensors that can differentiate ground targets....unless you want television. Will you know what you are looking at? You are just compounding the absurdity by invoking an order of magnitude more complexity and expense.
Be careful, u/catsfive might ban you and call you a DEWtatd
Great concision! I'll add this Tucker clip for further clarity on how stuff like this goes and what to watch for (how the DEW stuff is allowed to go viral, the same happened with the 2019 fires and DEW posts, they're not a threat so they're allowed to promulgate) - https://rumble.com/v2l5fb4-tucker-carlson-on-911-tower-7.html
https://rumble.com/v30ag78-open-minded-man-tucker-carlson-flat-earth-.html
I don't think anyone is all in on lasers. But we're not going to rule it out either. Why would we?
Agreed, however, like the flair someone put on this post, it's about the focus
At least Maui is still being scrutinized
I don't believe it was lasers. However I do believe there is something very strange with the intensity of the fires like this. It's very strange how some houses remain standing. It's strange when one side of the street is scorched to smithereens but the other side isn't even touched. What pisses me off is, there are all of these cameras and people with cameras all over the place and yet no one has any video of the fires being started. I have not see any satellite footage appear of the fires starting in real time like in Canada. It simply doesn't make sense this happened, especially since you don't see fires burning down entire cities like this on the regular.
I chalk up the unburned mansions and properties to the corrupt officials mishandling it on purpose aspect, in reverse: the millionaires had top of the line fire fighting for their properties- the rest didnt
I'm starting to think there's something to the blue stuff not burning, did some research and found that blue lasers light will completely reflect off blue but other colors will absorb the energy and heat up.
Blue lasers also have the greatest penetration depth in water, so it could be useful for both underwater mapping and attacking submarines.
Optical wavelengths are not used for laser weapons; they are too inefficient in producing power. If there is enough power, it wouldn't matter what color the target was, because no color is 100% reflective and it would take only a short exposure to say 100 w/cm2 before the paint chars and the absorption coefficient goes up.
The underwater applications are maybe mapping but more likely submarine detection or two-way communication. Not attacking submarines. You are thinking of heating up something that is cooled by a surrounding environment of seawater? Or, you aren't thinking...
Just a thought:
How hard would it be if they had satellites with magnifying lenses to focus down sunlight, to just target wherever they want to cook like ants? No lasers necessary, just natural focused sunlight.
How big of a magnifying glass would that be kek. I think it's a stretch but good thoughts regardless
If you work out the optics...it doesn't work. The solar image spot would have a diameter equal to the angular extent of the sun times the focal length of the optics. The only reason a magnifying lens works is because the focal length is very small and it is possible to concentrate the sunlight. The focal length of a satellite-based optical system would be on the order of hundreds of kilometers. The angular diameter of the sun is about 0.54 degree, or nearly 0.01 radian. This means the solar disk diameter from a satellite 200 km distant would be 2 km. The collector size on the satellite would have to be much larger than that in order to get any amplification of the light. And during nighttime, no sunlight in low Earth orbit. How hard would it be? Next to impossible.
Pantifa, Illegals, and BLM have been setting the west ablaze for decades. I think lasers are more for accuracy and when there's not enough kindling around to get the result they want. However we knows lasers have been used to spark forest fires too.
Because there is no way to "rule it in." It just doesn't make sense. It is the antithesis of something simple and reliable, and accessible without questions being asked. I know some of you guys like the idea. Having worked with the subject, I think it is nuts. So, I have no idea why you like the idea. Maybe your imagination gets the better of your knowledge.
No one likes that idea. You being the authority on lasers does not rule out the possibility they were used to start this fire. You won't convince people to stop discussing this. And they shouldn't until something is proved. Beyond me why you want rule anything out. Anything
Whether I am an authority or not should make no difference. The important aspect is that THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. Surmise and imagination are not evidence. And this notion of DEWs is very tricky, because the nature of a DEW is not to leave much evidence. It is in the same category as Menehunes. You say DEWs exist, and they do. But so do elephants, and they didn't start the fires. You may say Menehunes don't exist---but how do you know? Revenge against the white man? Another theory is giant fire arrows from arbalests, straight out of the 12th century. Perfectly feasible. Evidence is self-consuming. You could drag out a particle accelerator and spray the trees with hot electrons. Where's the evidence? If you are not going to rule anything out, you are going to have to keep book on all these alternatives. Somebody dropping jars of phosphorus from light planes. Somebody driving around shooting off flamethrowers or tossing traffic flares. Need I continue?
Do you see what I am trying to explain? You have to base allegations about reality on evidence pertinent to the case. Right now, it comes down to stray downed power lines or/and a conspiracy of arsonists...but we have evidence for the former and only imagination for the latter. I am trying to coax anons away from unsupported but favorite delusions, because a delusory understanding of reality is a contradiction in terms.
Feasible causes need to be talked about. It's that simple. Don't try to muzzle someone bc you don't agree. And how do you know a rogue circus elephant didn't start the fire. It's feasible
When it is not feasible, it should be dropped. All this talk of DEWs is at the level of mythology. More than not feasible, it is not evidentiary. And more than not evidentiary, it is delusory. People are not arguing it out of a prompting from evidence; they are arguing it out of an urge for it to be true. It is all wishful thinking. Nobody likes their fondest desire to be squashed by cold reality.
There is no mystery. It has now been reported that the power lines were sparking. As someone who lives in wooded territory that gets dry in the summer, I can vouch for sparks being all that is necessary. Add a steady strong wind, and it is like a draft in a fireplace. The fire spreads because the flames are blown to the next victim.
As for the wealthy types, were their desires not always in place? We know that Hawaii had designated Maui for some kind of rebuild. The fire is just a convenient pretext to put plans in motion---but the plans were out in the open, and the citizens of Hawaii were good with them. Stupid, to be sure, but complacent and unresisting.
People with first hand knowledge disagree with you. No matter how hard YOU try you won't stop people from talking about this. Things don't add up and you look like an idiot rulling something out. https://youtu.be/Q9L9WvlCli0?si=snLuaoe_Ipj6_UKW
First hand knowledge of laser weapons? I don't think so. Or they would have displayed some. All that has happened is that ignorant people have done a quick internet search and found things they think support their case. But there is still no evidence. Only imagination.
The video is evidence of sheer ignorance. It is very clear that the automobile burned up by itself, from the gasoline and rubber in the tires. The ideal adiabatic flame temperature of gasoline is 3,888 F (in practice at least 2500 F); rubber is also a hydrocarbon and should be similar. The melting point of aluminum is 1220 F. The transition temperature of Pyrex glass is ~997 F (where it begins to slump). It is even possible that the vapor from the molten aluminum was burning (flame temp of 6,750 F). I got about 6 minutes into the video, but that was the substance of what they had to say, and the rest was oohing and aahing over the miracle in front of them. You must not have bothered to check any of this information.
Things add up. You just don't know how to do the math.
Fire as a weapon of war is an ancient tactic. No need to get all complicated if the wind is right.
Is the Alien invasion next?
Next? That’s already happening at our southern border
This.
I think the whole idea of "ET" aliens was the psyop meant to distract us from the real meaning of the word, which is more like "foreigner".
The Pedo invasion.
https://afresearchlab.com/technology/directed-energy/
and, the installation is Maui. in plane(sic) sight.
read their web site and you'll see they are claiming that pilots have this technology in active service today.
Valid, my issue with this is that if these systems were to be deployed, it would be known within the military. So one would have to accept that the military essentially slaughtered 1,000 US citizens. I don't accept that, I believe what Q posted. That's my issue (and I pray I'm right!)
Hmmm ... If the DS/CIA had their own sub and ability to launch missiles (covered by Q, no?) a few fighters (or other craft ... these could probably be mounted on Cessnas or balloons).
But I agree with your assessment, that the cabal wins the narrative simply by creating the binary split. Like u/Tewdryg says, keep it simple. If anyone accuses you of being a DEW theorist (even if the difficult-to-substantiate DEW happens to be true in this case), just respond with the easier truths regarding the response of fire-(non)-fighters, the police response, the recently enacted land grab policies, and the satellite pics of the city fire sourced by u/Maga_patriot_1776.
A few bad actors in the military doesn’t implicate all of them. The swamp is deep and wide. DEW, if not believed by the norm it’s supports the freaking Aliens are coming crap.
We may not have a military that acts with single purpose or mission.
It was mentioned by some that Oahu was needed for strategic bases for the upcoming war against China… It’s just another psyop on top of psyops.
For laser ranging and communication, but not for airborne weapon engagements (though they are working toward that).
I like to apply Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. A directed energy weapon is not the simplest explanation. Scumbag lefties setting strategic fires is much more believable, and their fire campaign in the northwest is a prime example. Like you I just don't think it is DEWs.
What specifically is hard to believe about directed energy weapons? They exist, and they work.
The persuasion term "SPACE LASERS" is akin to labeling ivermectin "horse goo" and hydroxychloroquine "drinking bleach".
It facilitates easy ridicule and dismissal without thought, as if it's childish or fantasy talk.
It IS childish and fantastic. You are on better ground arguing for F-16s and napalm bombs. Oops, there would be evidence of that, wouldn't there? The only benefit of DEWs is the lack of evidence---but the lack of evidence only suggests...the lack of DEWs. It is like invoking an invisible monster. "What invisible monster?" "You can't see it." "Then how do you know it is there?" "Because if you can't see it, it must be there?" (Raised eyebrows.)
I say space lasers to troll and belittle it because I don't believe it's helpful to the movement, same vein as Stew Peter's snake venom etc
Kinda like how the entire nation was debating whether or not Will Smith was justified in slapping Chris Rock rather than debating whether or not it was staged. Yeah, Hollywood trickery.
I still think it was a DEW. Also, the moon landing footage was fake AF.
India landed on the moon in 2023 and not one astronaut took any video or pics on their iPhones 😂 strange days fren
They landed with a robot, not an astronaut.
Oh! Well, you'd think the robot would have a GoPro on it or something
Maybe it does. Stay tuned. I think the Indians deserve a tip of the hat.
During the phase one study contract for the Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle program, the team at Boeing was chatting up their competence and brilliance among themselves. I listened. Boeing hadn't flown a launch vehicle since the last Saturn V launch in the Skylab program, 25 years previously. I listened to this for a while, then interjected: "You know, little brown men speaking Hindi have much more operational experience launching rockets than we do." Oh, the dirty looks... But they couldn't say anything.
Yep. I didn't even suggest it was a distraction I just called it staged to drive up ratings but even that was a "conspiracy theory".
Arson is arson and however they (Our own Government) did it doesn't matter.
The strange blue color on those mansions does have some merit. No one in their right mind would ruin a mansion like that intentionally.
Those who downvoted this, whats with the hideous and VERY blue paint on homes such as oprah's?
And youve seen the examples by now with the lasers unable to light blue objects compared to other colors correct? Thoughts? Seems like a very valid point that some are ignoring.
How do you leak info about something like a dew? Slowly and you have to show them. A lot of things uknown are being exposed right now, this very well be another one.
Good point on the blue objects. It is definitely weird
I have a theory...wanna hear it?
Okay, did the solar panels on houses and buildings that survived the fire have the same effect as the "blue"? Is there a reflection of sorts from the color blue and/or solar panels that affects a DEW?
https://www.tiktok.com/@unherdpatriot.6.0/video/7269665881255464234
Its been tested. This video is circulating right now.
Yes...I've seen it. Did the solar panels have the same effect?
Yep, a blue laser will reflect off a blue object. Weapon lasers are not optical lasers. You can do things on a tabletop that does not translate to things you can do in the field. I saw a 10-watt CO2 laser produce a dime-sized white-hot spot on a piece of firebrick, but that is no more heat than a 10-watt incandescent light bulb produces and we do not burn down houses with 10-watt light bulbs.
I suppose you could run around with a tabletop laser and power supply, using it to replace kitchen matches. Do you realize how idiotic that would be?
Just coincidence then that several pedos on the island painted their entire house a hideous blue color? Or that blue cars or even blue umbrellas didnt burn?
False myth. Blue things did burn.
Prove it
Not strange in other places. It is common for Greek cities in the Aegean Sea to have whitewashed buildings with deep blue roofs. https://www.fantasytravelofgreece.com/fantasy-travel/first-timer-greece "De gustibus non disputandum est." (Of taste there is no argument.)
Have you seen oprahs house though? Thats the most popular example. It was not done for aesthetics. It most certainly ruined the property value significantly.
A nothingburger. If you search for images, you get a lot of them, and the color of the roof varies between off-white, grey, and light blue. I suspect the roof is reflective and takes the prevailing color of the sky. A reflective roof is the rational thing to do in the tropics, if you can afford it. I live in the Pacific Northwest, the land of clouds, and in the summer the sunlight heats up my house considerably, even though my roof is shingled with a light brown color. The roof is the least of the aesthetics of her house, which looks like a wedding layer cake, but no more terrible than any other conventional expensive house.
But any concern about Oprah is irrelevant. Her house is located an hour's drive from Lahaina, where the fires were. That fact that her property was not burned is part of the fact that the LARGE MAJORITY of property on the island was not burned. People have to realize that Maui covers 465,408 acres. The fires covered maybe 1% of this. Gee, what are the odds that wealthy people might be living in the other 99% of the island?
Anon behavior on this topic reflects more wishful thinking, fanciful speculation, and confirmation bias than careful research into the facts of the case.
Thats going to happen when you have a situation such as this. A massive fire to cover some kind of shenanigans. Certainly didnt happen naturally. Then the actions of local fire and police are suspect, the mayor suspect. Reports of 2,000 children sent home from school but have not been found.
With stuff like this built on that very island and the circumstances surrounding this incident something like a dew is not out of the realm of possibility. https://afresearchlab.com/technology/directed-energy/
You don't make arguments for something on the basis that it may be possible. A lot of things may be possible. But the Space Force presence on Maui does not include DEWs, if you would bother to find out what it includes: https://afresearchlab.com/technology/air-force-maui-optical-and-supercomputing-amos-site/ Laser guidestars are the key ingredient in the performance of adaptive optics.
Thats not why the argument is being made though. The fact that blue beach umbrellas site unscathed between burned up buildings is odd. Blue cars untouched in a field of burnt cars. Celebs and politicians painting their homes the same very strange shade of blue. No one paints tile roofing in general, specially not an ugly blue like that.
Then the actions of local first responders and local politicians tells you that they all knew it was coming.
Too much cherry-picking. What about other beach umbrellas of different colors? What about the blue ones that burned to ash? Or would it be the material and not the color? How many blue cars were burnt up, but could no longer be identified as blue? I've already looked at Oprah Winfrey's house. Depending on the photo, her roof looks off-white, light grey, or light blue---completely consistent with a mostly reflective roof that reflects the shade of the prevailing sky. It makes a lot of sense to have a reflective roof in the tropics, if you can afford it. Besides, 99% of the island was unaffected by the fire, so the celebs and politicians weren't even in jeopardy.
I would say the actions of the responsible parties were consistent with a pre-determined plan, but contingency plans come by the dozens. They didn't have to know when anything was coming. All they had to do was know what to do if something came. Think more, knee-jerk less.
Lighters are technically directed energy. Case closed
Kek
Technically, no. They radiate in all directions (not directed). And they don't set things on fire by radiation anyway.
Not trying to get in an argument about lighters….
“Fire” radiates in all direction. A lighter does not. It produces fire in the direction (directed) that the gas is exhausted.
The fire produced radiates (taken from your own comment)….. that word means something produces radiation…. We call this radiation heat. Lol.
Lastly it was just a joke… and you just knocked it out of the park
Jokes are good. Unfortunately, the line between a joke and a seriously-held idea is very slender in this forum. Shall we say...I see the light?
:)
Either way the government is in on the Maui fires. No two ways about it, the government at some level did it. Lasers, energy beams, arson, or whatever they did it.
Lazars can and are mounted in plane's. A simple one that hits the ground can be made very cheep and easy. The companies that make these things are owned and controlled by globalhomo......
The only lasers (no "z" in the word) mounted on planes are for sensor purposes, not weapons. The big airborne laser (YAL-1A) was scrapped by President Obama a decade ago. There are no "simple" weapon lasers (and it is more true to say there are no "simple" lasers at all). All the weapons to date are based on an air or missile defense mission, where they are looking at a target against a sky background (shooting upward or co-altitude). No application to shoot at the ground (ground target against a ground background?).
So is it possible to mount one on a plane that shoots down and does what is suspected?
And is it not true that hitting targets on the ground that doesn't move is much easier. Seams to me we have a plane with a 105 mounted on it, that hits the ground pretty easy.
And how long was the stealth fighter in service before we learned about its existence?
Of course it is possible. Targeting lasers have been pod-mounted for years. The point is that they are clear-weather devices and suitable only for specific targets. What would you target to start a fire? Anything? A patch of ground has no contrast against...ground. Targeting and ranging lasers are low-power and have to share optics with other sensors. You can't run a hundred kilowatts through a sensor system.
The AC-130 with the cannon is aimed by eyeballs and flies slowly in a circle around the target.
And how long was the YAL-1A in service before we found out it was junked? You don't get any points for "what if?" arguments. What if fires were set by airplanes dropping flares? What if conspirators had automobile safety flares? What if fire-breathing dragons came down for a roast? These are all equally possible BASED ON THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE (which is nil). The present status of DEWs has been a matter of record. The ability to fly one (again) in an airplane would be announced, as it is a matter of anticipation. The laser guys like to advertise progress. It helps to secure budget. They are not developing arsonist equipment.
The most plausible explanation is dropped power lines that were still energized...since they happened. Evidence. Why do you even bother with nonsense? You have to be self-aware, because delusions are a symptom of paranoid psychosis.
Read what I actually said.
At no point did I say, that they did it this way. I mainly posted cause people keep thinking it had to be space based weapon.
My point that it can be done much simpler still stands.
It could have been done with WW2 surplus flamethrowers........
Well, you started out with unsubstantiated allegations that we currently have DEWs on airplanes (not) and they can be made "cheep and easy" (not). And that companies that make them are "owned and controlled by globohomo..." (proof?).
Then you posed a bunch of questions, suggesting you entertained the idea. Ending up with a speculation instead of evidence. How much of the blanks am I expected to fill in? A space-based weapon would be even less credible, I will admit, but not much less. And the fire could have been caused by bad weather and power lines in bad repair (as it apparently was).
But okay. Space weapons are over-the-top, I agree. DEWs are less credible than half a dozen other ideas (also without evidence). I don't think you can purchase surplus flamethrowers any more, but jars of home-made napalm are definitely credible (and nasty). But let's not get wrapped around the axle of an event that affected only 1% of the island.
So you can prove the military doesn't have these things in secret programs.
Go ahead.
Just cause you can't find it with Google is silly.
My example of the stealth fighter actually being in service, long before we learned about it, tells me all I need to know. The same was true with the u-2 and the and blackbird.
It is generally not possible to prove a negative; you should know this, and not use that as an empty challenge. I can't prove that somebody didn't obtain arbalests from the 12th century and used them to fire self-consuming incendiary arrows. (Can you?) Why should the military have any DEW in secret programs when all the ones it has built are in open programs? What could be more impressive than the YAL-1A, conducted totally in the open?
You are correct about the U-2 and the F-117, but not about the SR-71 Blackbird. It's existence was announced 5 months before its first flight. Secrecy is relevant only when it is relevant. The B-21 Raider bomber is classified, but its existence is not secret (public rollout in 2022).
The point is: you can't "assume" the existence of something just because you can't prove its non-existence. That opens the door to fire-breathing dragons, fire-bombs carried by balloon (per Japan in World War II), or secret agents throwing bottles of napalm. Especially when the credible culprits are downed and sparking powerlines (evidence).
This is the only thing keeping lasers or DEWs in my mix of what caused the fire(s). It may only be option "Z" but it is like a 1000 to 1 horse at the Derby. It is there, and I might put a dollar on it in case all the rest of the horses die of "suddenly" during the race. I would expect to lose that dollar but it wouldn't hurt that much.
A 2A battery powered purple laser pointer is capable of popping a balloon with no problem. Why do you not think that an AC powered purple laser fired from a satellite, or plane is possible? The implication is the same, actually it’s worse— someone(s) with a lot of pull had to plan and pull that off.
https://greatawakening.win/p/16c2MtYRqD/x/c/4TwSOuXSgxF
Because a balloon can be punctured by a 2-5 milliwatt beam having the diameter of a needle, as essentially all of the beam energy is absorbed by the rubber. Not so easy to "pop" other materials. It is always hard to do, and the laser weapons we have are dedicated to air defense missions. You are going far, far out of your way to rationalize the involvement of DEWs, when there is no evidence and absolutely no necessity. It is like going to the corner mailbox in an atomic-powered automobile. What is the point when you could just WALK?
You also need to keep in mind that the Cabal is probably awash in contingency plans, for this or that emergency. If an opportunity for a fire arrives on the doorstep in the form of high winds, tell the power company not to shut off the power, and wait and see. You might not even need a team of arsonists. All you really need is a contingency plan (like, block the egress). These guys are likely to make a virtue out of playing it by ear, as they probably have no intellect or patience for a convoluted plan of action.
Indeed. The false binary is a favorite ploy.
Being watered down in advance. That is often all that is needed. I once saw a whole hillside in Santa Barbara in flames for about two days. Some houses were lost completely. Others survived. Wetting down helped. Clearing away undergrowth in advance was important.
I am also given to understand that the wealthy survivals were in areas of the island that were not menaced by the fire. Not hard to avoid getting burned if you weren't where the flames were.
How do you know it was only blue things that didnt burn, and how do you know there weren't blue things that did burn though? All I've seen is that one video everyone was sharing, which only includes like 3 or 4 shots with some blue stuff still standing
Win =/= Win for the DS/MSM narrative(s): "oh look at these crazy loons claiming space lasers" normie feedbag fodder Or... "see, we told ya it was muh climate change" normie feedbag fodder.
Excellent analysis u/winn
Anyway you slice the cake, they will serve it up to normies as they see fit leaving all of the Miltons standing there with empty plates.
Well apparently our Congress is going to investigate it. Let's see what they come up with. But in the meantime, this was a very strange event. Almost as if it were planned.
There is so much we will learn when the real end times Judgment Day comes.
The fact is -it happened. -they want smart cities. -they turned off the water. -they are hiding the true death count. -the people of HI needs to stand up and hopefully get support.
The Rock aka The Pebble sold them out. The dope smoking VP sold them out.
We hear the left say we need to give the Native Americans their land back and yet they hush the Natives of HI.
Hopefully they have a spark left.
I can say that I've had a professor a few years ago that worked on space lasers and he said they'd fire it at North Koreans when they tried to launch missiles / nukes.
I can believe that totally. Someone in these comments made a point about the usefulness of lasers against missiles and planes (airborne with heat sigs)
they been using energy weapons to start fires for years
I know they've been heating the atmosphere with HAARP and probably have more advanced systems now, but I'm still going with Occam's Razor on these fires. It just seems easier for them in my opinion. You'd have to have some camera somewhere that captures a structure "spontaneously combusting" from a laser
The ionosphere is not the troposphere. There is no thermal connection.
remember the satellite footage of canada.... widespread fires, all starting at the exact same time.
bunch of arsonists camped all over the bush, looking at the second hand on their watches?
occams razor says no...
The smoke would follow the wind, so if the entire area was under a single current of wind, the smoke would reach that atmospheric height around the same time regardless of how long the fire had been going, resulting in an inaccurate picture of the fires "starting". Also yes, to achieve fire synergy and cause max damage I'd say lighting them all at the same time (say, 3pm everybody lights) would make sense. But there's no way to exactly pinpoint each fire's start time based on smoke which reaches such a height to be seen by sat
edit- your point is valid though, and one of the things that does give me pause on my stance against DEW narrative
Don't be silly. Bunch of arsonists, with cell phones, waiting for the "start" message? Or even looking at their clock. Occam's Razor says, too easy. When you think super-technology is the way to go, it only shows that you have no idea how to organize something, and nobody to count on. As a result, you think whoever is responsible for this is as feeble and ineffectual as you are---but the reality is that they will go to great lengths to accomplish their intent, if it takes time, people, and resources to do it. How to you propose to beat these people?
Or bunch of arsonists with remote controlled firestarters.
You're a real dedicated DEW DEW Head if you think space lasers is a simpler explanation than arsonists with synchronized watches or pre-placed bombs detonated via radio.
No, you are dreaming. But you want to believe your dream, so lack of evidence will not stop you. Fires start very nicely with matches, or even as the result of a discarded glass bottle focusing sunlight on a patch of dry grass. Add wind and you have a nice little blaze with a potential for becoming a gigantic one.
In eastern Washington, we have a wild fire in Medical Lake that has so far consumed over 10,000 acres. Only a few people have been killed, and we know how to fight these fires. It is seasonal for us. This one is not big enough to get notice.
name checks out...
Maybe some kid was burning ants with a magnifying glass and it got out of hand. They could've been carpenter ants carrying all their lumber and ...
Aww never mind. Nobody will ever believe that one.
I like giant flaming arrows launched by an arbalest. Straight out of the 12th century. But if you need the super-science, they could have been procured by a time machine.
Yep and planes crash all the time and competitive swimmers drown in a backyard pond all the time, and billionaires fall off balconies all the time. Nothing to see here folks.
Actually, all these things are true. The gifted composer Jerry Goldsmith had the misfortune to see his son, Joel, another gifted composer, pass away before the elder Goldsmith did. Irony? Pathos? You name it, but it happens. Sudden and unanticipated death has been around a lot longer than Covid-19 vaccine.
Yeah, I'm 100% onboard with the fires being lit intentionally and mishandled in order to perpetuate the "Heat Dome" BS climate change hoax as a backup plan for 2024 in case COVID Round 2 doesn't work.
#2 would also fall under gov't because it's their communist footsoldiers who are doing the arson
I enjoyed this rant.
Same here. I lean more towards strategic arson with high winds + bribed PoS cops, bureaucrats and politicians to make sure maximum death and damage occurs.
And like OP, if the DEW theory is proven, then I'm open to acceptance. At the very least there is more evidence of actual Direct Energy Weaponry than there is of the most likely Clown-planted theories of a flat earth and no planes on 911.
Someone brought up DEWs yesterday and I first countered with arson. Then I asked "if they really have all these space lasers why do they care so much about taking our guns? If I were a tyrant with space lasers I'd already be raining down the light of judgement on everyone who displeases me like I was Kefka in Final Fantasy 6. No if they're still relying on subterfuge they're not nearly as strong in an open conflict as you'd think."
First, there are no space lasers....
Power lines started it.
Not totally shoved under the rug. The County Lahaina is located in just sued the power company monopoly in charge of the power distribution for failing to shut off the power in time.
If it was simple arson, why are they trying to keep all reporters, all aid out of the area? It's a lot bigger cleanup job than just a single school building or day care.
Explain me the melted metal. After we talk. Explain me also the irregular jump of fire ... even in water. Explain me burned down house surrounded by intact trees. Explain me again how it started. I have enough of the idiots podcast.
Rubber tires burn hot enough to liquify the wheels.
The wind was blowing insanely, sending flames and embers for miles.
Trees (living) are full of water, very hard to completely burn (ever tried burning wet wood?) and even harder to ignite to begin with.
Started by arsonists strategically lighting fires ahead of a hurricane.
Any more questions?
“”Much more likely””????
Nah,,,, the most likely answer is White Hat op and we’ll find out the truth when their ready for us to know, not a sec before.
Well, there is this.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Ll6fmiqF_l0?si=qEboecbg_BIl0lBm
yea someone posted a link to the Maui station. I dont believe the US military would murder 1,000 US citizens
Well, the fact that the US military, or border patrol, or whatever you wanna call it, is allowing thousands, if not millions of people to come across our border, and allowing them to murder in kill people who live along the border, and elsewhere in the United States of America, by either people, physically attacking one, another, or with drugs, or human trafficking, or kid fucking. They’re all culpable. I would not be shocked at all to find out that our own government, our own military is killing thousands of US citizens on a regular basis. Isn’t that what the DUMBs are all about? Isn’t that with the speculation is… That human trafficking is happening within our own military bases. Just asking.
Mathis ded's the DEW: http://mileswmathis.com/dew.pdf
Yes, but he ignorantly thinks nuclear weapons are fiction, and they are not. Too much nuttiness.
HARRP they created the weather (came from east which it shouldnt) created the environment no warning water off blocking people from leaving) to massacre the inhabitants and now locking down survivors aid and communication to try to cover up their crimes. Did I miss anything? Although I saw some video of not lazer but pulses of what looked like energy balls there being fired..possible dew..maybe cgi..until I find it and try to analyze it I cant say. But I do know murder when I see it.
One thought I had was if this were a DEW then the DS still has control over weaponry White Hats haven’t been able to disarm.
That said, the destruction of the Georgia Guidestones was clearly from a DEW.
That's one main issue I have with the theory also. Also I believe the monument in Georgia was destroyed by planted charges, not DEW. Lasers burn holes in things, not cause them to explode (unless there are explosives in the laser's path of course!)
And not even a shaped charge. Just a satchel charge pasted to the side of the stone would provide enough overpressure to crack the stone and throw it around.
Looked like a shaped charge or even a tank round given how the explosion came from the side exactly parallel to the ground.
The explosion was blue not orange. Chemicals burn orange. Energy burns blue. The sodium arc light overcharged indicating an EMF field. There’s no video other than a bad fake of planting a charge. And it would require a sophisticated HE charge of significant size to snap a 30 ton slab of granite. I’ve shown the video to engineering and weapons experts and all agreed almost no chance of a chemical based explosion. Then there’s the fact the FBI came up w nothing including residue, forensic data or a suspect. Hallmark of being baffled. And it was memory holed.
Just for the sake of argument, the GGS video looked more like a large caliber anti vehicle ordinance to me. The blast effect has a very horizontal ejection suggesting something hitting the monument from the side and not from above.
The guidestone explosion was a planted bomb.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev6ryrw07mw