WTF is right. I thought people on this board would be able to follow the comments/replies. Is this format too hard for you? I'll explain it to you: My "ditto" was in reply to Harps71 "I never did give you a downvote, but here's an upvote for persistence". Nothing more; nothing less. The SUBJECT of the comment was up/down votes and NOT about the files. Hope that helps.
Yes I understand. Upvotes are usually meant for rewarding true points or encouraging visibility. But so far nothing is corroborated so there is no "truth" or visibility to encourage.
Thus, the mods in retrospect have rightfully tagged this as a "shitpost"
Nazi trail from Argentina eventually leads to the CIA and the children and grandchildren of Nazis currently in the "Pentagram" with offshoots into the the South American "real druglords" from 1945 to present.
Clayton Morris is reporting that Hitler had two daughters while in Argentina. He is suspected of having 3 total. One is likely Angela Merkel. Another is likely Theresa May, former British PM. A picture of these two together at a British boarding school is likely real.
There is historical speculation that Hitler had a daughter out of wedlock with his cousin...who he was obsessed with, but she died via a dodgy suicide I think perhaps in the late 1920's?
That's correct. Thank you for the info. Geli may be the one who secretly had a child.
Q hinted that Globalist scum Angela Merkel might be Hitler's descendant via adoption. Not surprising. Nor is the down vote from a pro-Hitler fool. Sigh. Hitler was used by the same people he professed to hate (Khazarians!) and was most likely a Rothschild who helped start WWII.
The fake claimants to the title: Prince of Orange, currently acting as King of the Netherlands. ..... the place where Willem Alexander met Maxima Zorregieta in 1999.
His granddad: Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld used to be in the SS before climbing into Princess Julian's underwear.
I had suspected as much. The rifts in the Netherlands run deep. One of them is a racism towars Friske people - the reasons my family left, actually. Always that Dutch 'nobility' parading around as lords of the manor - i.e. management. Usually quite stupid too.
Royalty is .. not only fine, but probably inevitable.
The thieving inbred debt-saddled traitorous corruptive royals of Europe are a plague.
True kings serve. It’s not an easy path. Even David screwed up.
Ignore the word itself, someone is going to end up owning the land and important assets at a foundational level.
In America, the way it’s supposed to work, every citizen should be a king. Not rich, necessarily, but a king. Kings have to behave a certain way, though, and it requires slavish obedience to biblical righteousness.
In the Bible the Jews told told the prophet Samuel to ask God to send them a king so that they could be like they kingdoms around them.
Samuel started to get mad but God told him, “it is not you that they have rejected but me. If they want a king I’ll give them one, and that king will raise their taxes through the roof and send their sons off to war to die”
Slavish obedience? Just the love of God and the Savior. Thats what should motivate a Christian. God's love towards me all He did through His Son Christ. Its actually so easy even a fool needed not erreth therein. If it's hard then people are doing it wrong
Modern royalty are all connected to rothchilds. He systematically bankrupted every kingdom nd took over the rights to marriage. Hence the winsors being fake and from Germany.
This has gotta be considered fringe conspiracy. I didn't see any evidence. And the guy who came on who is reading through the files said not a whole lot. Not that I would have a hard time believing it.
You in for a shock! The hard thing is to unlearn everything you been taught!
My advise to you is to believe everything you think you know is a lie then is easier to navigate and you leave all the bias out. And then you can examine one piece of the puzzle until you can paint the full picture!
Just bunk. I have read the memoirs of those who were with Hitler in the bunker, before, during, and after his suicide, and attempt to burn the body. He died on 30 April 1945. The day previous, 29 April, he executed a last will and testament that named Karl Doenitz as head of state (actually naming Goebbels, but Goebbels committed suicide the day after Hitler, leaving Doenitz to assume the office). And earlier on 22 April, Albert Speer visited the bunker with a plea for Hitler to escape by air (the last opportunity), but Hitler refused. He had never departed several months previous.
"Everybody knows" is just a fig leaf for "nobody knows." I cannot fathom why anyone should actually be HOPING that Hitler survived and lived out his life. What emotional need is satisfied by such a perverse victory of evil over good?
Not debating the validity of the rumors/claims made in video, just answering a question you asked. It's not really an "emotional need" that needs satisfying but a quest to find the actual truths that have been hidden from the world. Revealing information that has been hidden would cause more people to question the official narratives they've been fed their whole lives and those that fed them those narratives. That is why we are all here on a "Q" research board, IMO.
No reason to think the truth about Hitler has been hidden. That is a contrived rationale. What you may not like is the fact that the Soviets captured Berlin and were not forthcoming about anything. The West had plenty of testimony, and documentary evidence he was still calling the shots up to the day before his death. You just don't like the truth. It is inconvenient.
You are building a house of cards. IF Hitler's fate could be proven otherwise, THEN other people might believe otherwise. So, the desired end engenders the desired precondition. We only find truth as we stumble across it, in material form. The fact remains that "you" want Hitler to have attained a personal victory, escaping scot free from his crimes against humanity. All for the sake of a noble good? You are insensitive to the way in which your ulterior motives are warping your sense of right and wrong. You are virtue signaling in advance of anything to signal.
What I don't like is peop!e, such as you, putting words in my mouth. I did not say I believed any of what is claimed in this video. I honestly don't know. What I was trying to convey is that people have good reason to be skeptical about historical narratives because they know they've been lied to by their government about any number of other historical narratives. This sure seems to have touched a nerve with you. Why the need to accuse me of things I did not write? Straw man much? None of what you accuse me of is true and none of that could be deduced from what I said either. To that end, fuck off, douche bsg.
Kindly indicate which words. I don't believe I attributed any quotations to you. If you have no vested interest in the video, then I apologize for construing your defense of it as approval. I concede your logic: proof of one hidden truth will engender skepticism. That is a logical outcome. But you are advancing it as a reason for this delving. The end justifying the means is not far away.
People have reason to be skeptical only if they have a REASON to be skeptical. It is not rational to ASSUME that all accounts are lies. When you start from an assumption and then use it to fill out a mythology, you are wandering off the map.
I am sorry if I took your words too ardently on the side of the Hitler Hunters. But you undermine your own case by ending with a curse and an insult.
The fact remains that "you" want Hitler to have attained a personal victory, escaping scot free from his crimes against humanity.
(Emphasis added to highlight your baseless claim as to my motivation.)
How did you establish that "fact"? You did not and you cannot. Your tactic seems to be to twist words to fit your straw man argument just to provoke arguments, and hence, my reaction to your provocation. On second thought, apology NOT accepted.
You missed the point where I read the memoirs of the witnesses. And the testimony of Albert Speer, who attempted a week beforehand to have Hitler escape by airplane (he refused). And the directive by Hitler designating Admiral Doenitz as head of state the day before his suicide. That is what we know, and it all confirms Hitler was at the bunker and died there. There is no uncertainty left. Just a lot of wishful thinking that a mass murderer escaped justice for his crimes against humanity, in order for the Conspiracy Theorists to score one for history. But knock yourself out. It is a dead end.
You prove the books are fake and you have an audience. Right now, the books are witness testimony. But we both know you can never prove the books are fake, so your only argument is denial of the testimony. In your case, evidently, you think that NOT reading the books equates to knowing what happened. That's a laugh. Do you think the fake news only applies to the news? It also applies to the claim of fake news. You're not immune.
There are many eyewitnesses in Argentina that have said they knew Hitler after he escaped. Lived there and died in his early 70's.
Josh Gates and Abel Basti went to his alleged home that townsfolk from back then said he lived at, it's a bit of a remote location. Josh and Abel found a Nazi coin in the front yard.
The CIA even had a picture of an older Hitler in Argentina.
Stalin's intelligence showed Hitler also fled to Argentina.
How many so called conspiracy theories have now been proven true? I have no doubt that our government knew Hitler fled and turned a blind eye in exchange for all the nazi technology they acquired and the nazi scientists that were given a pass on war crimes just so they could work for us.
Basically set up the deep state. The 1947 law that created the cia and the secret government.
Something tells me we have a parallel breakaway civilization. That’s one conspiracy I didn’t believe. I believe USAID and other programs were siphoning off money to these people. The out right rage at Elon is beyond normal. He basically gutted the financing for the deep state right before they go for their final assault on humanity.
What war crimes? The war crimes claimed by the same people that project their sins on to chickens, subsequently beat those chickens to death, then claim they're absolved of their sins?
This is rich. From a community who thinks Joe Biden is an actor, comes the belief that, contrary to the witnesses in the bunker, his delegation to Doenitz, and his refusal of escape to Speer, Hitler somehow hopped in a time machine, escaped, threw of the effects of his drug dependence, and schlepped off to Argentina. How do these "eyewitnesses" know it was Hitler, and how could that possibly be verified? A Nazi coin could come only from Hitler, when there were other Nazis around? CIA photographs? Did they take his fingerprints, or was it an alleged identification? Stalin's intelligence? Yet they retained his remains? (The woman's skull was undoubtedly that of Eva Braun, who was buried with him.)
Plenty of conspiracy theories are total bunk from beginning to end: Moon Hoax, chemtrails, Flat Earth, Nazi UFOs, 9/11 demolition. Something being a conspiracy theory means nothing about its truth value. The Soviets captured Berlin, so the U.S. had no options about Hitler's fate. We do have at least half a dozen witness memoirs, however, and proof of official communications up to the end. And if you are talking about the Peenemunde team under Von Braun, there were no war crimes attributable to them. Just one (1) was found later to have a dubious history and was sent back to Germany. The Army had them busy designing and developing Redstone and Jupiter missiles. Then the Apollo program came along and they designed and developed the Saturn V. Without them, we would not have been first to the Moon, a feat of civilization.
It's interesting how you threw in the time machine aspect. This is a method the CIA would use in arguments to spin conspiracy theories as even crazier, even though no one brought it up.
You do it again by tying it together with Chemtrails and flat earth conspiracies.
But, to the subject at hand. The biggest issue with believing Hitler died in his bunker is that the Soviets discovered his remains and secretly buried them. But then have Stalin not believe his own forces alleged discovery based on other intelligence.
I'm just pointing out the absurdity of a claim of Hitler's wherabouts and whenabouts that is disproven by the historical record. Only a time machine (an impossibility) could make it work. And this is the problem of a good many "conspiracy theories." "Chemtrails", Moon Hoax, and Flat Earth are all conspiracy theories. So, if you are going to wrap "conspiracy theories" to your bosom, you get to nuzzle with all of them, including the absurd ones. There is no issue about Hitler when you have multiple eyewitness testimony to the sequence of events. Maybe Stalin was of a similar view, preferring the weight of hard evidence to the indeterminacy of "intelligence." He was not a believing sort of guy.
Covid from a Wuhan bio lab was just a conspiracy. The CIA killing JFK was just a conspiracy. Election fraud was just a conspiracy. Hunters Biden's laptop was a conspiracy theory. Gulf of Tonkin incident false flag was a conspiracy theory. The covid vax not being safe and effectivewas just a conspiracy throry. MKUltra was just a conspiracy theory. No WMD's in Iraq was just a conspiracy theory. US Bio labs in Ukraine was just a conspiracy theory.
I could go on. By your own logic, we must also wrap these conspiracy theories up together. I think I like the track record of these compared to the few really fringe ones. It's an absurd notion to think like this, because you are attempting to frame rules that all conspiracy theories are just as far fetched as the flat earth conspiracy. Again, a CIA tactic to discredit.
All of the so called eye witnesses were subordinates of Hitler. Have you ever thought they were ordered to say Hitler died in his bunker to cover for his escape?
Yes, there are conspiracy theories that are true. And there are conspiracy theories that are not. Logic: Just because a conspiracy theory EXISTS does not mean it is TRUE. And most of the items you mentioned as theories were discovered facts, not theories. My logic is intact. A conspiracy theory is true when it is discovered to be true. And the flaky ones will never be discovered as truth. You are misreading my point, since I did not make any blanket statement predicting whether theories are true. I did make a blanket statement saying that their truth cannot be expected on the basis of their existence alone. You really must agree with that one.
As for the witnesses, that question has come up. But these are all autobiographical accounts, written individually many years after the events, and they agree in all particulars. Who are you to claim the witnesses are liars? Are you going to make a blanket rule that ALL WITNESSES ARE LIARS? Hard to fake the message sent to Doenitz the day before his death. Hard for him to issue commands into the month of April, if he was supposed to have left months earlier. Albert Speer decided to disobey Hitler's last order on 20 April to commit a scorched earth policy; why should he have felt compelled to obey an order to lie about Hitler's death when he saw him last on the 22nd, and it was clear that Hitler was staying for the end, having refused his offer of a flight out? The "Hitler escaped to Argentina" theory explains nothing. All it amounts to is a contention that "The Argentina Escape is the only truth. Any statements to the contrary are lies." It is no more than reality denial.
You need to recognize your vested interest in that theory being true.
I wasn't told to think anything, and Hitler wanted "what was best for Germany" at the price of conquest, war, destruction, and genocide. That's not "nationalism," that's wrath and intolerance. Boy, a Hitler lover. I never thought I would meet one. You were certainly told to think something and it was poison.
No brainwashing. Just a lot of reading of multiple sources. See, here's the problem: If you don't like a point of view, or can't answer it, you claim "you're brainwashed!," as though that says anything. Actually, since you don't have any testimony or evidence, you are the one who is brainwashed. And willingly so. He was in charge up to 29 April 1945. Just ask Karl Doenitz, who had to sign the surrender document.
CNN, MSNBC, Wikipedia, school textbooks written by the (tribe)?
Observe his actions, listen to his words, and see what he did. Weimar Germany was drowning in debt, inflation, and faggotry. NSDAP Germany had a booming economy that wasn't done by a war.
Oh, great. He had to dispossess, dehumanize, deport, and murder the Jews, as well as conquer neighboring nations in order to complete the program. So, you are arguing that elimination of human rights and democratic government is the correct price for a booming economy? Yep, I guess so. You are good with it.
There are primary works of history and documentation that have nothing to do with CNN, MSNBC, Wikipedia, or school textbooks. I have never watched CNN or MSNBC, or use them for historical reference As far as Wikipedia is concerned, you go ahead and prove all the cited sources are false. I really don't recall anything about the Third Reich from my "school textbooks." I have shelves of historical sources that I have read, from witnesses and key actors. I have read both of Hitler's books, but I doubt that you have.
Towards the end, the comments about Nazi 'recruitment' into US Govt agencies might be the real reason these files are being leaked as it says that the Nazi's were sent to Argentina first and then recruited to the USA.
If you have Nazi's high up in the CIA (for example) it would explain a lot.
I think it was more the communists that were in charge of the CIA. Who were the bolsheviks? What were their early lives? Why did the CIA want all mentions of israel and the jews redacted in the JFK files?
From day one we did. We brought the German military intel into the cia. With it came a Russian spy olov oleg who had penetrated the German Intel. He retired from the cia, also from the kgb as a general. He went back to the Soviet union.
U know this Melie guy is really starting to piss me off. The jews are now going to exterminate anyone who depends from those people. It's not their fault. They see innocent ppl as a problem. I expect mass casualty events in Argentina very soon should this be revealed
The Jews new since the end of the war that a lot of nazis escaped to South America, including many high ranking party leaders, many were captured but many were not
I know everyone wants to talk about Hitler escaping - which even in the event he did, he was a stateless state leader.
The real story in my mind is Bormann and Heinrich Mueller. Mueller (who ran the Gestapo) flat disappeared at the end of the war, and when they exhumed the grave he was purportedly buried in years later, the "body" was made up of the bones of four different people.
Bormann was the shadow ruler behind Hitler. Part money man, part enforcer and a very savvy political operator. In the last days of the bunker he set up Goering to be stripped of his titles, and Himmler as well. Journalist Ladislas Ferago published a copy of a check for a little over a milliin dollars signed by Bormann in the 1950s. Records suggest he was a strong financial backer of Prron in Argentina.
I wonder what these escapees where truly up to. These werent puffed up bureacrats like Adolf Eichmann, these were the movers and shakers within the National Socialist government. We know Klaus Barbie (another ratline National Socialist) was working for the CIA. I think it is extremely.likely Bormann and his organization were as well. I wont even go into Hans Richter and Huemal Island, or the fact that most US presidents between Eisenhower and Obama somehow found the time to visit Bariloche, Argentina (the purported center of National Socialist culture in South America.
Everything we have been told about the end of WW2 is a lie.
I went on out to survey the awakening and people just looked shocked. It's unreal, some of the reports that are coming in. People are beside themselves.
This is awesome! This is another conspiracy theory we can point too to say, see they do lie AND this is what the good guys are using to redpill people like my Mom and sisters who wouldn’t have believed hitler lived. I see this as a small step —>drip, drip, Firehose!
Yeah the video is super click baity.
It says 'this is what Milei DID', but what in fact happened is he announced he WILL BE releasing files. Not specifying what the files contain yet.
If you people could even read Spanish and devote the time to researching the documents you'd probably find...nothing. Maybe you'll find some people claiming to have proof for profit or to keep the Soviets busy.
All theories have been rebuked and you can watch Mark Felton covering much of them, thoroughly.
I know many on this site and others think Hitler was a good guy. Since most people don't understand symbolism and don't examine the few pictures we got of a Hitler that clearly show free- masonic and kabbalistic symbolism . However I have come to believe that Adolf Hitler was a Rothschild of the Vienna line. I cant prove it but it makes the most sense. We got two different Rothschild in the Vienna family also named Adolf and who promoted Hitler in the late 20s and early 30s in Germany? Media and other Zionist organizations actually promoted him not just in Germany but all around the world. We also know for a fact that Zionist propaganda was allowed and distributed under Nazi Germany, they actually collaborated with known Zionist to get Jews to Palestine. We also know from Eva Braun sister that her family is Jewish. So if Hitler and Eva got children they would be Jewish.
It's always been a stage! Hitler was just another actor in the movie! Using your common sense proves this! All wars are based on depopulation and those that can see through the fog are killed!
Seriously, anyone who comes here should not be the least bit surprised. There were as many speculations about this as the JFK assassination. Goes to show you they can and do deceive us about anything. Maybe jfk Jr. Is one of those things.
Everybody that gave me a downvote for putting this in comments the last four years owes me an upvote.
I never did give you a downvote, but here's an upvote for persistence.
Ditto
WTF.. I thought this was a research board. Has nobody actually checked??
The files have not been released. Milei has ordered them declassified the same way Trump ordered the Epstein files released. Neither has happened yet.
The video is clickbait / FAKE NEWS. Notthing has been released yet.
Much like /POL/ this place has lost a bit of the spark that made it great. That spark being the original user base
Make Greatawakening.win Great Again
WTF is right. I thought people on this board would be able to follow the comments/replies. Is this format too hard for you? I'll explain it to you: My "ditto" was in reply to Harps71 "I never did give you a downvote, but here's an upvote for persistence". Nothing more; nothing less. The SUBJECT of the comment was up/down votes and NOT about the files. Hope that helps.
Yes I understand. Upvotes are usually meant for rewarding true points or encouraging visibility. But so far nothing is corroborated so there is no "truth" or visibility to encourage.
Thus, the mods in retrospect have rightfully tagged this as a "shitpost"
Your pepe deserves his mob-shades. And a cigar.
Doobie
And here's an upvote for being nice about it...
The amount of discussions I been having even arguments over last 2 decades are huge. The history books are truely written by the 'victor'.
(who) won the wars.
The cabal controlled entities. Sure as heck not the so called Allies.
I think theyre actually written by the bankers who start the wars.
I thought that was what I said lol
Yup, same entity. Cabal is a massive entity reaching into ever single aspect of our life and up to global level,maybe further.
maybe we can get the mods to go back and remove them all
they could make it look like our beliefs are more unified than in reality. That would feel strong af! I say do it and dont quit.
That's crazy talk. For absolutely no reason ever should mods modify up or down doots.
We can't do it anyway.
No offense at all, but that's a good thing.
Bout time some other countries step up and start declassifying stuff.
Nazi trail from Argentina eventually leads to the CIA and the children and grandchildren of Nazis currently in the "Pentagram" with offshoots into the the South American "real druglords" from 1945 to present.
Clayton Morris is reporting that Hitler had two daughters while in Argentina. He is suspected of having 3 total. One is likely Angela Merkel. Another is likely Theresa May, former British PM. A picture of these two together at a British boarding school is likely real.
Likely since we brought nazis into the cia from its inception.
Read the "secret history of the CIA" explains all of it pretty clearly.
Exactly, it would be interesting to know why Hess was murderd in Spandau after serving 41 years for the mere crime of being the party secretary.
Angela Merkel.
u/#q142
Q should have added Rudolf Hess to this drop , ‘why was Hess held for so long ? What did he know ? Why was murdered ?’
Also he had two daughters??
As Clayton said, this story is pretty much bunked. (as opposed to debunked).
u/#q929
Angela Markel possibly?
That's the current Rumor, how true it is, well time will tell....
But maybe, the Appellation ""Hitler"" might make a return....
If you put a picture of Merkel's face right next to a picture of Hitler's face, they are remarkably similar - right down to the mustache!
And Theresa May
Yes that's the rumor...
Is there a sauce factory of anons that have unpacked this? Thanks, asking for a frog.
There is historical speculation that Hitler had a daughter out of wedlock with his cousin...who he was obsessed with, but she died via a dodgy suicide I think perhaps in the late 1920's?
Never heard about the second daughter.
You're thinking of Geli Raubal, who was his half-niece. She died apparently by suicide, in 1931.
That's correct. Thank you for the info. Geli may be the one who secretly had a child.
Q hinted that Globalist scum Angela Merkel might be Hitler's descendant via adoption. Not surprising. Nor is the down vote from a pro-Hitler fool. Sigh. Hitler was used by the same people he professed to hate (Khazarians!) and was most likely a Rothschild who helped start WWII.
If Obama can pretend to have 2 daughters then they could hide the two Hitler had.
Theresa May and Angela Markel
Guess who love to go to Bariloche?
The fake claimants to the title: Prince of Orange, currently acting as King of the Netherlands. ..... the place where Willem Alexander met Maxima Zorregieta in 1999.
His granddad: Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld used to be in the SS before climbing into Princess Julian's underwear.
Here is his: NSDAP membership card: https://historiek.net/wp-content/uploads-phistor1/2023/10/NSDAP-lidmaatschapskaart-van-Bernhard.jpg
All the while, denial, denial, denial: https://nos.nl/artikel/2492895-prins-bernhard-bleef-tot-zijn-dood-nazi-lidmaatschap-ontkennen-maar-hield-de-kaart
This guy also is the progenitor of several globalist causes.
When comparing Dutch law before and after the Oranges came back, there are several nazi-laws on the books, including: income tax.
I had suspected as much. The rifts in the Netherlands run deep. One of them is a racism towars Friske people - the reasons my family left, actually. Always that Dutch 'nobility' parading around as lords of the manor - i.e. management. Usually quite stupid too.
Royalty is Bullshit no matter the country.
Royalty is .. not only fine, but probably inevitable.
The thieving inbred debt-saddled traitorous corruptive royals of Europe are a plague.
True kings serve. It’s not an easy path. Even David screwed up.
Ignore the word itself, someone is going to end up owning the land and important assets at a foundational level.
In America, the way it’s supposed to work, every citizen should be a king. Not rich, necessarily, but a king. Kings have to behave a certain way, though, and it requires slavish obedience to biblical righteousness.
It’s gonna be a long slog back.
Yes. The European royals are a parasite class and will go down in history as such.
In the Bible the Jews told told the prophet Samuel to ask God to send them a king so that they could be like they kingdoms around them.
Samuel started to get mad but God told him, “it is not you that they have rejected but me. If they want a king I’ll give them one, and that king will raise their taxes through the roof and send their sons off to war to die”
1 Samuel 8 KJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel%208&version=KJV
Exactly.
Now, either I don’t get what you said, or there’s something else that I was getting at before.
Riddle, riddle!
Slavish obedience? Just the love of God and the Savior. Thats what should motivate a Christian. God's love towards me all He did through His Son Christ. Its actually so easy even a fool needed not erreth therein. If it's hard then people are doing it wrong
I could have the concept quoted in a poor context, but mainly referencing Romans 6:16 there.
Modern royalty are all connected to rothchilds. He systematically bankrupted every kingdom nd took over the rights to marriage. Hence the winsors being fake and from Germany.
O yeah ... there sure is. But as long as they convert to Mohammedanism it will be all right. [shudder]
WTG skipper! 👏
This has gotta be considered fringe conspiracy. I didn't see any evidence. And the guy who came on who is reading through the files said not a whole lot. Not that I would have a hard time believing it.
You in for a shock! The hard thing is to unlearn everything you been taught!
My advise to you is to believe everything you think you know is a lie then is easier to navigate and you leave all the bias out. And then you can examine one piece of the puzzle until you can paint the full picture!
All reveals have started this way.
I'm betting Angela Merkel is Hitler's daughter. Q made a reference to this!
There is definitely a resemblance between the two.
I don't think it's a leap to think this.
And Theresa May, she was the PM of UK.
Just bunk. I have read the memoirs of those who were with Hitler in the bunker, before, during, and after his suicide, and attempt to burn the body. He died on 30 April 1945. The day previous, 29 April, he executed a last will and testament that named Karl Doenitz as head of state (actually naming Goebbels, but Goebbels committed suicide the day after Hitler, leaving Doenitz to assume the office). And earlier on 22 April, Albert Speer visited the bunker with a plea for Hitler to escape by air (the last opportunity), but Hitler refused. He had never departed several months previous.
"Everybody knows" is just a fig leaf for "nobody knows." I cannot fathom why anyone should actually be HOPING that Hitler survived and lived out his life. What emotional need is satisfied by such a perverse victory of evil over good?
Not debating the validity of the rumors/claims made in video, just answering a question you asked. It's not really an "emotional need" that needs satisfying but a quest to find the actual truths that have been hidden from the world. Revealing information that has been hidden would cause more people to question the official narratives they've been fed their whole lives and those that fed them those narratives. That is why we are all here on a "Q" research board, IMO.
No reason to think the truth about Hitler has been hidden. That is a contrived rationale. What you may not like is the fact that the Soviets captured Berlin and were not forthcoming about anything. The West had plenty of testimony, and documentary evidence he was still calling the shots up to the day before his death. You just don't like the truth. It is inconvenient.
You are building a house of cards. IF Hitler's fate could be proven otherwise, THEN other people might believe otherwise. So, the desired end engenders the desired precondition. We only find truth as we stumble across it, in material form. The fact remains that "you" want Hitler to have attained a personal victory, escaping scot free from his crimes against humanity. All for the sake of a noble good? You are insensitive to the way in which your ulterior motives are warping your sense of right and wrong. You are virtue signaling in advance of anything to signal.
What I don't like is peop!e, such as you, putting words in my mouth. I did not say I believed any of what is claimed in this video. I honestly don't know. What I was trying to convey is that people have good reason to be skeptical about historical narratives because they know they've been lied to by their government about any number of other historical narratives. This sure seems to have touched a nerve with you. Why the need to accuse me of things I did not write? Straw man much? None of what you accuse me of is true and none of that could be deduced from what I said either. To that end, fuck off, douche bsg.
Kindly indicate which words. I don't believe I attributed any quotations to you. If you have no vested interest in the video, then I apologize for construing your defense of it as approval. I concede your logic: proof of one hidden truth will engender skepticism. That is a logical outcome. But you are advancing it as a reason for this delving. The end justifying the means is not far away.
People have reason to be skeptical only if they have a REASON to be skeptical. It is not rational to ASSUME that all accounts are lies. When you start from an assumption and then use it to fill out a mythology, you are wandering off the map.
I am sorry if I took your words too ardently on the side of the Hitler Hunters. But you undermine your own case by ending with a curse and an insult.
Apology accepted. However, as to your admonishment at the end... who accused who of being a Hitler fan before I called you a douche bag?
Nobody accused me of being a Hitler fan. That would be quite humorous.
Don't play stupid. Do you deny writing this?
(Emphasis added to highlight your baseless claim as to my motivation.)
How did you establish that "fact"? You did not and you cannot. Your tactic seems to be to twist words to fit your straw man argument just to provoke arguments, and hence, my reaction to your provocation. On second thought, apology NOT accepted.
Which means you don't know either
You missed the point where I read the memoirs of the witnesses. And the testimony of Albert Speer, who attempted a week beforehand to have Hitler escape by airplane (he refused). And the directive by Hitler designating Admiral Doenitz as head of state the day before his suicide. That is what we know, and it all confirms Hitler was at the bunker and died there. There is no uncertainty left. Just a lot of wishful thinking that a mass murderer escaped justice for his crimes against humanity, in order for the Conspiracy Theorists to score one for history. But knock yourself out. It is a dead end.
You think reading a book equates to knowing what happened? Do you think fake news only applies to the news?
u/#correct
You prove the books are fake and you have an audience. Right now, the books are witness testimony. But we both know you can never prove the books are fake, so your only argument is denial of the testimony. In your case, evidently, you think that NOT reading the books equates to knowing what happened. That's a laugh. Do you think the fake news only applies to the news? It also applies to the claim of fake news. You're not immune.
There are many eyewitnesses in Argentina that have said they knew Hitler after he escaped. Lived there and died in his early 70's.
Josh Gates and Abel Basti went to his alleged home that townsfolk from back then said he lived at, it's a bit of a remote location. Josh and Abel found a Nazi coin in the front yard.
The CIA even had a picture of an older Hitler in Argentina.
Stalin's intelligence showed Hitler also fled to Argentina.
How many so called conspiracy theories have now been proven true? I have no doubt that our government knew Hitler fled and turned a blind eye in exchange for all the nazi technology they acquired and the nazi scientists that were given a pass on war crimes just so they could work for us.
Yes, or that.
Basically set up the deep state. The 1947 law that created the cia and the secret government.
Something tells me we have a parallel breakaway civilization. That’s one conspiracy I didn’t believe. I believe USAID and other programs were siphoning off money to these people. The out right rage at Elon is beyond normal. He basically gutted the financing for the deep state right before they go for their final assault on humanity.
What war crimes? The war crimes claimed by the same people that project their sins on to chickens, subsequently beat those chickens to death, then claim they're absolved of their sins?
For starters regarding the scientists... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1323276/
This is rich. From a community who thinks Joe Biden is an actor, comes the belief that, contrary to the witnesses in the bunker, his delegation to Doenitz, and his refusal of escape to Speer, Hitler somehow hopped in a time machine, escaped, threw of the effects of his drug dependence, and schlepped off to Argentina. How do these "eyewitnesses" know it was Hitler, and how could that possibly be verified? A Nazi coin could come only from Hitler, when there were other Nazis around? CIA photographs? Did they take his fingerprints, or was it an alleged identification? Stalin's intelligence? Yet they retained his remains? (The woman's skull was undoubtedly that of Eva Braun, who was buried with him.)
Plenty of conspiracy theories are total bunk from beginning to end: Moon Hoax, chemtrails, Flat Earth, Nazi UFOs, 9/11 demolition. Something being a conspiracy theory means nothing about its truth value. The Soviets captured Berlin, so the U.S. had no options about Hitler's fate. We do have at least half a dozen witness memoirs, however, and proof of official communications up to the end. And if you are talking about the Peenemunde team under Von Braun, there were no war crimes attributable to them. Just one (1) was found later to have a dubious history and was sent back to Germany. The Army had them busy designing and developing Redstone and Jupiter missiles. Then the Apollo program came along and they designed and developed the Saturn V. Without them, we would not have been first to the Moon, a feat of civilization.
It's interesting how you threw in the time machine aspect. This is a method the CIA would use in arguments to spin conspiracy theories as even crazier, even though no one brought it up.
You do it again by tying it together with Chemtrails and flat earth conspiracies.
But, to the subject at hand. The biggest issue with believing Hitler died in his bunker is that the Soviets discovered his remains and secretly buried them. But then have Stalin not believe his own forces alleged discovery based on other intelligence.
I'm just pointing out the absurdity of a claim of Hitler's wherabouts and whenabouts that is disproven by the historical record. Only a time machine (an impossibility) could make it work. And this is the problem of a good many "conspiracy theories." "Chemtrails", Moon Hoax, and Flat Earth are all conspiracy theories. So, if you are going to wrap "conspiracy theories" to your bosom, you get to nuzzle with all of them, including the absurd ones. There is no issue about Hitler when you have multiple eyewitness testimony to the sequence of events. Maybe Stalin was of a similar view, preferring the weight of hard evidence to the indeterminacy of "intelligence." He was not a believing sort of guy.
Covid from a Wuhan bio lab was just a conspiracy. The CIA killing JFK was just a conspiracy. Election fraud was just a conspiracy. Hunters Biden's laptop was a conspiracy theory. Gulf of Tonkin incident false flag was a conspiracy theory. The covid vax not being safe and effectivewas just a conspiracy throry. MKUltra was just a conspiracy theory. No WMD's in Iraq was just a conspiracy theory. US Bio labs in Ukraine was just a conspiracy theory.
I could go on. By your own logic, we must also wrap these conspiracy theories up together. I think I like the track record of these compared to the few really fringe ones. It's an absurd notion to think like this, because you are attempting to frame rules that all conspiracy theories are just as far fetched as the flat earth conspiracy. Again, a CIA tactic to discredit.
All of the so called eye witnesses were subordinates of Hitler. Have you ever thought they were ordered to say Hitler died in his bunker to cover for his escape?
Yes, there are conspiracy theories that are true. And there are conspiracy theories that are not. Logic: Just because a conspiracy theory EXISTS does not mean it is TRUE. And most of the items you mentioned as theories were discovered facts, not theories. My logic is intact. A conspiracy theory is true when it is discovered to be true. And the flaky ones will never be discovered as truth. You are misreading my point, since I did not make any blanket statement predicting whether theories are true. I did make a blanket statement saying that their truth cannot be expected on the basis of their existence alone. You really must agree with that one.
As for the witnesses, that question has come up. But these are all autobiographical accounts, written individually many years after the events, and they agree in all particulars. Who are you to claim the witnesses are liars? Are you going to make a blanket rule that ALL WITNESSES ARE LIARS? Hard to fake the message sent to Doenitz the day before his death. Hard for him to issue commands into the month of April, if he was supposed to have left months earlier. Albert Speer decided to disobey Hitler's last order on 20 April to commit a scorched earth policy; why should he have felt compelled to obey an order to lie about Hitler's death when he saw him last on the 22nd, and it was clear that Hitler was staying for the end, having refused his offer of a flight out? The "Hitler escaped to Argentina" theory explains nothing. All it amounts to is a contention that "The Argentina Escape is the only truth. Any statements to the contrary are lies." It is no more than reality denial.
You need to recognize your vested interest in that theory being true.
Well, they were Nazis. So, not a great track record out the gates, lol.
Hitler wanted only what was best for Germany and her people. What's wrong with a nationalist? Why are you still believing what you were told to think?
I wasn't told to think anything, and Hitler wanted "what was best for Germany" at the price of conquest, war, destruction, and genocide. That's not "nationalism," that's wrath and intolerance. Boy, a Hitler lover. I never thought I would meet one. You were certainly told to think something and it was poison.
You still believe what was brainwashed in to you.
No brainwashing. Just a lot of reading of multiple sources. See, here's the problem: If you don't like a point of view, or can't answer it, you claim "you're brainwashed!," as though that says anything. Actually, since you don't have any testimony or evidence, you are the one who is brainwashed. And willingly so. He was in charge up to 29 April 1945. Just ask Karl Doenitz, who had to sign the surrender document.
CNN, MSNBC, Wikipedia, school textbooks written by the (tribe)?
Observe his actions, listen to his words, and see what he did. Weimar Germany was drowning in debt, inflation, and faggotry. NSDAP Germany had a booming economy that wasn't done by a war.
Oh, great. He had to dispossess, dehumanize, deport, and murder the Jews, as well as conquer neighboring nations in order to complete the program. So, you are arguing that elimination of human rights and democratic government is the correct price for a booming economy? Yep, I guess so. You are good with it.
There are primary works of history and documentation that have nothing to do with CNN, MSNBC, Wikipedia, or school textbooks. I have never watched CNN or MSNBC, or use them for historical reference As far as Wikipedia is concerned, you go ahead and prove all the cited sources are false. I really don't recall anything about the Third Reich from my "school textbooks." I have shelves of historical sources that I have read, from witnesses and key actors. I have read both of Hitler's books, but I doubt that you have.
There is one picture of there of Hitler, sun tan and shaved mustache, at an older age. I believe it was from the 70s.
Towards the end, the comments about Nazi 'recruitment' into US Govt agencies might be the real reason these files are being leaked as it says that the Nazi's were sent to Argentina first and then recruited to the USA.
If you have Nazi's high up in the CIA (for example) it would explain a lot.
I think it was more the communists that were in charge of the CIA. Who were the bolsheviks? What were their early lives? Why did the CIA want all mentions of israel and the jews redacted in the JFK files?
From day one we did. We brought the German military intel into the cia. With it came a Russian spy olov oleg who had penetrated the German Intel. He retired from the cia, also from the kgb as a general. He went back to the Soviet union.
U know this Melie guy is really starting to piss me off. The jews are now going to exterminate anyone who depends from those people. It's not their fault. They see innocent ppl as a problem. I expect mass casualty events in Argentina very soon should this be revealed
I honestly wouldn't be surprised at all....
And now, for some reason, I'm thinking this will more than likely come to pass....
It's just Horrible really, the things that are allowed in this World, committed by the Professional, Forever Victims, Nation....
Oy vey!
why are you pretending it wasnt revealed already? What do you think shocked the world?
Seen multiple documentaries about Hitler in South America... Who knows? He is long dead in any case, and 7 million Jews were not killed.
271,000 at best.
The Jews new since the end of the war that a lot of nazis escaped to South America, including many high ranking party leaders, many were captured but many were not
I know everyone wants to talk about Hitler escaping - which even in the event he did, he was a stateless state leader.
The real story in my mind is Bormann and Heinrich Mueller. Mueller (who ran the Gestapo) flat disappeared at the end of the war, and when they exhumed the grave he was purportedly buried in years later, the "body" was made up of the bones of four different people.
Bormann was the shadow ruler behind Hitler. Part money man, part enforcer and a very savvy political operator. In the last days of the bunker he set up Goering to be stripped of his titles, and Himmler as well. Journalist Ladislas Ferago published a copy of a check for a little over a milliin dollars signed by Bormann in the 1950s. Records suggest he was a strong financial backer of Prron in Argentina.
I wonder what these escapees where truly up to. These werent puffed up bureacrats like Adolf Eichmann, these were the movers and shakers within the National Socialist government. We know Klaus Barbie (another ratline National Socialist) was working for the CIA. I think it is extremely.likely Bormann and his organization were as well. I wont even go into Hans Richter and Huemal Island, or the fact that most US presidents between Eisenhower and Obama somehow found the time to visit Bariloche, Argentina (the purported center of National Socialist culture in South America.
Everything we have been told about the end of WW2 is a lie.
Norman is purported to have been tje rothchilds man inside. Hitlers handler so to speak.
I think I've known this since the late nineties. I can't remember where I first heard it.
Source on the docs? Seeing he supposedly released them but no links or anything.
The connection between Obama's mother and Hitler should be be shown here. Hussein is in Hitler's bloodline, there is sufficient geneology to show it.
I knew he was going to release files about nazis escape into Argentina but not Hitler himself.
Okay so this important why? Oh look at this not the JFK declass or Epstein files, Sorry just my thoughts on the matter
I went on out to survey the awakening and people just looked shocked. It's unreal, some of the reports that are coming in. People are beside themselves.
where's the documents?
Strong work, hope he made it out alive and well.
The files haven't come out yet? how do they know this?
Nice. Allegations with no real sauce (yet)..
Stay classy GAW
This is awesome! This is another conspiracy theory we can point too to say, see they do lie AND this is what the good guys are using to redpill people like my Mom and sisters who wouldn’t have believed hitler lived. I see this as a small step —>drip, drip, Firehose!
Please leave this up through tomorrow. I don't have time tonight to look at it.
Yeah the video is super click baity. It says 'this is what Milei DID', but what in fact happened is he announced he WILL BE releasing files. Not specifying what the files contain yet.
If you people could even read Spanish and devote the time to researching the documents you'd probably find...nothing. Maybe you'll find some people claiming to have proof for profit or to keep the Soviets busy.
All theories have been rebuked and you can watch Mark Felton covering much of them, thoroughly.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mark+felton+hitler+escape
I know many on this site and others think Hitler was a good guy. Since most people don't understand symbolism and don't examine the few pictures we got of a Hitler that clearly show free- masonic and kabbalistic symbolism . However I have come to believe that Adolf Hitler was a Rothschild of the Vienna line. I cant prove it but it makes the most sense. We got two different Rothschild in the Vienna family also named Adolf and who promoted Hitler in the late 20s and early 30s in Germany? Media and other Zionist organizations actually promoted him not just in Germany but all around the world. We also know for a fact that Zionist propaganda was allowed and distributed under Nazi Germany, they actually collaborated with known Zionist to get Jews to Palestine. We also know from Eva Braun sister that her family is Jewish. So if Hitler and Eva got children they would be Jewish.
It's always been a stage! Hitler was just another actor in the movie! Using your common sense proves this! All wars are based on depopulation and those that can see through the fog are killed!
Seriously, anyone who comes here should not be the least bit surprised. There were as many speculations about this as the JFK assassination. Goes to show you they can and do deceive us about anything. Maybe jfk Jr. Is one of those things.
Fucking called it!
Yep. Now, imagine what else the telling of "history" got wrong.
Angela
I think Hitler got out of Germany, but he did not live long, he had late stage Parkinson's. Lived another 20 years? No way.
First Arrest will shock the world. 136 year old Adolf Hitler.
OR
Talking Head of Adolf Hitler (A LA Futurama).
Either one would be equally shocking I would imagine.
Oh man I would die laughing if they rolled out a 136 year old adolf.