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MOD NOTE: FRINGE CONSPIRACIES ARE NOT TOLERATE—great mother of sweet Baby cheeses, this is Tucker talking UFOs, good God, what is this (twitter.com) U F O
posted 2 years ago by catsfive 2 years ago by catsfive +155 / -0
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– CasuallyObservant 38 points 2 years ago +38 / -0

I've been following Linda Moulton Howell since 1996. She is a Stanford-trained American investigative journalist, author, HBO documentary film maker and Regional Emmy award-winner best known for her work as a ufologist and advocate of a variety of theories, including her investigation into abductions, crop circles, and animal and cattle mutilations, of which she is considered perhaps the world's foremost authority on.

She has obtained hundreds/thousands (?) of interviews with military persons, alleged 'alien abductees', cattle ranchers, farmers, police officers and myriad others over the years. Her thoroughness in vetting her interviewees and witnesses is top notch and can be relied upon.

She has put together numerous coffee-table-sized books with photographs of cattle mutilations, animal autopsies, crop circles, witness interviews, etc. She has audio and video tapes of interviews that you can watch or purchase. She also has a vast library of data on her website if you become a member.

Based on my own personal experiences and investigations and those I've seen of Linda's, I fully believe there are non-human entities that are working with or beside our government officials and are being covered up for very good reasons.

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– AZTrumpette1776 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0

they are demons not aliens.

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– SuckaFree 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

If they don't originate from this planet, they are alien. Doesn't matter what you classify them as. And those beings aren't all demons. If that were th case, Yahweh/Jehovah, Enlil and Enki, Quetozocoatl, etc would all be classified as demons, yet they are all credited by ancient peoples as being our creators and benevolent not demonic by nature.

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– catsfive [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It's so goofy watching someone talk about UFOs in this tone

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– deleted 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0
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– catsfive [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

u/#q2222

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– solarsavior 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Fun Fact: The creatures in the movie “Signs” were demons; not aliens. Now the movie should make sense.

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– Bibloop 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

yeah I think so too.. or beings from other realms, like realm of hell breaking into this world.

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– peterbeater 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Finally, someone connecting some dots. ☝️

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– CQVFEFE 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

upvoted

It's not even remotely controversial at this point to observe that the US govt has had ongoing contact with ETs for decades. Linda Howe has shown the official Majestic-12 manual on how to deal with extraterrestrial life forms and craft. We have recovered spaceships with occupants inside that top-level US govt personnel sworn to secrecy have described in rich detail, now that they're in their 80s and have nothing to fear.

The idea that we have to keep it secret still because "earthlings couldn't handle the truth about this and would go stark raving mad" or something is just ridiculous, moronic bullshit.

Nearly everyone on earth already suspects there are alien civilizations out there, we've obtained photo evidence of their craft and buildings on the moon and Mars, etc. NASA has admitted they caught UFOs on camera, the Navy has admitted jet fighter pilots caught craft on camera flying at impossible speeds and making 90-degree turns, etc.

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– Silentchainz 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

a bunch of commies invented the bahai religion in the late 1800s and youre letting their influence spread to you and set set you up for project blue beam

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– CQVFEFE 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

a bunch of commies invented the bahai religion in the late 1800s and youre letting their influence spread to you

LOL fantasy is fun.

Have never read two words about the commie religion. I know less of what you're talking about than you do, which is saying something.

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– Silentchainz 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They believe everyone needs to be an exemplary global citizen to appease the aliens

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– catsfive [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The idea that we have to keep it secret still because "earthlings couldn't handle the truth about this and would go stark raving mad" or something is just ridiculous, moronic bullshit.

Umm... you need to go get your nails done somewhere local and watch Home Shopping Network for a couple hours!

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– DieHeretic 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Don't you wish that evil on anyone, Ricky Bobby!

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– LateToTheShow 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of Man

~ Jesus

The days of Noah were evil, and the Nephilim (Hybrid beings created with genetic manipulation from fallen angels) walked the earth in those days (Genesis 6 and Enoch). Will the Nephilim be returning during this age that we live in?

I seriously wonder if we have succeeded in recreating the Nephilim genetic line with all the advancements in DNA manipulation we’ve been doing since the 50’s.

Are we keeping them hidden in the Antarctic regions? Are we consulting them for knowledge? Post Humanists want to merge man and machine (hybrids) for the next phase in their human “evolution.” That’s very coincidental. And we all know the powers in charge worship Satan and are in communication with his demons.

This type of “disclosure” makes sense if the powers in charge are warming us up for the re-emergence of the Nephilim.

Just thinking out loud here…

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– Bibloop 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

this makes the most sense to me tbh

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– catsfive [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Will the Nephilim be returning during this age that we live in?

One wonders if they're not already here, now. There's no question that Satan is directly guiding our leaders

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– CasuallyObservant 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Thinking and brainstorming is always a good idea.

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The secrets our gov keeps in Antartica are beyond huge. It's the proverbial platter that if flipped can set us free as only truth really can.

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– MAG768720 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

... and the Nephilim (Hybrid beings created with genetic manipulation from fallen angels) walked the earth in those days (Genesis 6 and Enoch)

Genesis 6:4:

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them ..."

But as you point out, the original word used was "Nephilim," which does not translate to "giants." It more accurately translates to "fallen ones," as in the fallen angels.

Revelation 12:7-9:

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

"And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

So, Michael and his angels kicked Satan and his angels out of heaven and down to the Earth.

In Hebrew, "Satan" means "Adversary." It does not mean a little red guy with horns and a pitch fork.

They are the "ones in heaven" who rebelled against God and were cast out to the Earth.

They are NOT a part of the family tree of Adam.

They are represented in the Garden of Eden as the "Tree of Knowlege of Good and Evil."

These fallen ones already existed on Earth before Adam was created.

They are the ones who created the hybrid races.

If the Bible is true, and if we are constantly told (in indirect ways) of so-called "reptillian people," which could also be considered "aliens," then it is these hybrids that are really being talked about.

They have walked amongst us all along. But if they possess any advanced technology, it is not because they are from other planets or particularly brilliant. It is only because they have kept secrets from the rest of us.

"Occult" means hidden knowledge.

These people are the adversary of man, and although very much like us in biology, are not exactly like us -- especially in spirit or soul (or lack thereof).

That is, more or less, what the Bible is all about. But modern Christian denominations have been teaching alternative and watered-down stories for centuries.

It is no different than doctors who graduate from medical school and only know about selling drugs and surgery.

Or attorneys who graduate from law school who only know about legal strategies to win cases (or give in at the last minute because they don't want to offend their "colleagues" -- other attorneys and judges -- their client be damned), and they do not learn the fundamental law to achieve truth and justice.

Or police academy graduates who have no idea what the law is that they are supposed to enforce, but only know techniques on how to carry out orders, even unlawful orders.

So is true of modern seminaries, where men graduate to become clergy, but have only been taught a false version of what they will be preaching.

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– LateToTheShow 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They are represented in the Garden of Eden as the "Tree of Knowlege of Good and Evil."

HIGHLY debatable.

The Nephilim were the hybrid offspring of the “Sons of God” (fallen angels, the “Watchers” in Enoch) intermarrying with the daughters of men. This is clearly stated in the text. The Nephilim were the great men of old, men of renown. The Sons of God (fallen angels) ruled the earth in those days by proxy through their offspring, the Nephilim.

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– MAG768720 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

A literal tree, made of wood, roots, leaves, bark, etc. canNOT have "knowledge" of anything.

Therefore, it is NOT a literal tree.

It is representative of something else.

In the Bible, a "tree" is often used to describe a family tree, with branches to describe its people, etc.

John 15, Jesus said:

"I am the vine; you are the branches."

Clearly, this was an analogy, not a literal statement.

Same as the Garden of Eden.

In the Garden of Eden,

"... out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;"

AND ...

"the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil."

That is Genesis 2:9.

What does "in the midst mean?"

It means God did not create those. They were already there.

God created trees good for beauty and good for food.

But the Tree of Life (Jesus) and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (Satan) were NOT literal trees. They could not have been.

The original meanings written in Hebrew have been changed over the years, to the point that modern English (and other language) versions appear to say and mean something they never did.

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– LateToTheShow 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The original meanings written in Hebrew have been changed over the years, to the point that modern English (and other language) versions appear to say and mean something they never did.

While it's essential to approach biblical translations with a critical mindset, it's equally crucial to acknowledge the meticulous work of scholars in ensuring accuracy. Modern translations undergo rigorous processes, and numerous ancient manuscripts, including the Dead Sea Scrolls, validate the reliability of the text. Hyper-skepticism can overlook the dedication to preserving the original meanings and dismiss the wealth of evidence supporting the integrity of biblical translations.

Your analysis of the two, named, trees in the Garden, while exotic, really doesn’t make sense in relation to all the other trees that God said he gave to Adam to “freely eat.”

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– MAG768720 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

all the other trees that God said he gave to Adam to “freely eat.”

Clearly, the two TYPES of "trees" are discussed separately.

There are the trees good for beauty and for food.

It was good to eat of the trees for food (literal fruit).

And THEN ... there (in the midst) are the Tree of Life and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

It is the "literal tree" doctrine that makes no sense at all.

"I am the vine; you are the branches."

Explain THAT, according to your literal doctrine. You can't.

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– LateToTheShow 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You have a misunderstanding of a “literal interpretation” of scripture. Taking a literal approach doesn’t mean you take non literal language (symbolism, metaphor, etc…) literal.

The Literal Interpretation method is like looking at the Bible in the most direct way possible, trying to understand what the authors meant using the regular meaning of words. It considers the historical and cultural background to get what the writers were saying. And here's the cool part – it doesn't force us to interpret everything as if it's all literal. So, if the Bible uses symbols or metaphors, this method encourages us to get what those symbols mean in the bigger picture, not necessarily taking them word-for-word. It's a way to appreciate the different writing styles in the Bible while still aiming to understand what the authors were trying to tell us.

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– MAG768720 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The Nephilim were the hybrid offspring of the “Sons of God” (fallen angels, the “Watchers” in Enoch) ...

Angels ("messengers") can be of God (good) or of Satan (evil).

The Nephilim MUST have been either (a) Satan's fallen angels themselves, or (b) the descendents of Satan's fallen angels, whether hybrid or otherwise.

It was ONLY Satan's angels who were "fallen," NOT God's.

Again, Revelation 12:7-9:

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

"And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Do you just want to pretend that Revelation is not part of Christianity?

... intermarrying with the daughters of men. This is clearly stated in the text.

No, it is not clear in the text, because you are ONLY reading the English version of the text, which has come after 3,000 years of mistranslations.

The Nephilim were the great men of old, men of renown.

The Bible did not exactly say that, in the original Hebrew.

The Sons of God (fallen angels) ruled the earth in those days by proxy through their offspring, the Nephilim.

Revelation 12:7-9 tells us that Satan and his angels were the ones who fell from heaven. It is SATAN'S descedents who are the "fallen ones," and NOT God's angels.

If you continue to read to Genesis 6:5, you will see the RESULT of all this chaos in Genesis 1-4.

And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Now, WHY would THAT be? Why would God's creation become wicked?

If you are correct, and (a) the Nephilm are the angels of God (good), and (b) these angels mixed with the sons of God (also good), then (c) how could the world be FULL OF WICKEDNESS (evil) by God's own creation?

It does not fit the story of ALL of God's creation being "good."

The ONLY way the story makes any sense is if there was a MIXING of good and evil, with the result being evil.

We do not learn the KEYS to the Old Testament until we get through the New Testament. We cannot understand the OT without also including the NT.

THIS is what the clergy of today do not understand, and therefore do not teach. They also don't bother to research the original Hebrew and Greek, much like today's doctors don't bother to research the actual science of health and nutrition.

In Genesis 6:1-5, you CANNOT have God's angels (good) mixing with God's sons (good) and arrive at wickedness (evil) that is so bad that God wants to wipe them out. He even wants to wipe out the animals, too, who have no soul and cannot be good or evil.

What gives?

A false understanding that has been perpetrated for many generations is what gives.

In the original Hebrew, there is more than one word for "man." In these passages, the English words "man" and "men" are used ... BUT ... these are TRANSLATIONS. The original Hebrew words were DIFFERENT in different passages ... and THAT changes the meaning entirely.

Also, we have to keep Revelation 12:7-9 in mind, as well.

There are TWO Hebrew words for "man" in the Bible (and some variations of those, as well), used in different places in the Bible.

Most of Genesis 6 uses the Hebrew word "adam" for "man."

However ... the phrase "men of renown" uses the word "enosh," not "adam."

This signifies TWO DIFFERENT types of man.

Yes, this OTHER type of man (enosh) was well-known ("of renown"), but that does not mean thought of in high esteem. The word enosh is a derogatory word, not one of respect.

Where "adam" is used, it is a man descended from God's creation of Adam.

But where "enosh" is used, it describes NON-ADAMAIC man -- NOT a creation of God.

NOT ALL humans are of Adam (i.e. not created by God).

SOME are something else, though genetically very similar -- which is where Satan's fallen angels enter the picture.

This is all assuming you want to believe that the Bible is true, which we are doing here.

If we believe it is true, then we should understand what it ACTUALLY SAID ORIGINALLY -- and not the bastardized version we have today.

The original Hebrew tells us that these two types of "man" are NOT the same.

THIS is why God saw all the wickedness that he hated.

His own creation was MIXING with His non-creation (Satan's seed of the fallen ones). Such people still exist today, as well -- and are the source of MUCH of the world's troubles.

You will also note that Noah was chosen to build the ark SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE he was "perfect in his generations," which means perfect in his ancestry, which means he did NOT mix with these hybrids of the fallen ones (satanic seed).

Noah was not randomly chosen, and his story was not detailed for no reason. There is a REASON he was chosen, and THIS is the reason.

God was angry at the mixing of His creation with the fallen ones, and wiped out the offspring of this mixing.

He chose Noah, because Noah did not do this.

So ...

Let's compare your interpretation of Genesis 6 with mine.

YOU: God's creation had sex with God's creation ... and the result was so evil that God wanted to wipe them out.

ME: God's creation had sex with Satan's seed ... and the result was so evil that God wanted to wipe out the descendents and start over.

Which interpretation makes more sense, objectively?

Forget what you THINK you know, or what you have been TAUGHT ... but which one makes more sense, objectively?

And before you answer, don't forget Revelation 12 or the original Hebrew text of Genesis 6.

But that is enough for me today. I have other things to do.

Have a good day.

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– LateToTheShow 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Bro, you wrote ALL that assuming I meant the “Sons of God” referred to “good” angels? You should ask some clarifying questions before you waste your time.

“Sons of God” = fallen angels.

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– TNBanjoMan 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I'm familiar with the work of Linda Moulton Howe, along with Jacques Vallee, John Keel, Stanton Friedman, Zechariah Sitchin, Lloyd Pye, and many other writers and scientists who take this field of study seriously. Taken as a whole, the subject definitely deserves our attention.

The media and government has certainly been actively dissuading us from looking at it, having painted the subject as "tinfoil hat conspiracy material" not worthy of serious thought. For that reason alone, it seems we should keep an open mind about the probability that we are not alone in the universe.

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– Paul_Revere 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

In general, yes. But I'd cross Stitchin off that list.

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– TNBanjoMan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Well... I actually knew Sitchin when he was alive, and attended several of his conferences. I know that his interpretations of Sumerian cuneiform tablets are "controversial" in the archeology world, but they were originally interpreted back in the 1800s when no one knew of flight and astronomy was in its infancy.

His later interpretations are intriguing to say the least. His first book, "The Twelfth Planet" is so well researched and referenced / cited that it made an impression on me. I don't dismiss Sitchin so casually.

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– CasuallyObservant 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes.

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– MoLibertyson 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You could include Leslie Kean in the list of authors on the UAP data. It was the first book I purchased on the subject. WTF is downvoting you?

UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record by Leslie Kean

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– TNBanjoMan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Who is downvoting? Probably just someone who isn't deeply familiar with the material and who simply reacts rather than researches. It doesn't bother me.

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– Plebbitimmigrant 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

I for one advocate for Humanity First. And a big beautiful Space Wall to keep out illegal Aliens. No pun intended

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– catsfive [S] 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

I think what they'll do is take all the USD, sew them together, and make a huge orbiting space wall of fiat currency

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– GodBlessAmerica58 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Instead of a Dyson's Sphere, we can have a Dollar Sphere?

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– catsfive [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

KEK, that's perfect!

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– motrhed3 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Dollar Sphere, is that what they are calling gumballs these days, because now they cost a dollar rather than a quarter?

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– mmtwo 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Chris Miller on Shawn Ryan Show .... do we have a wall of energy around the United States .not yet .that is

coming. we're finally at a place where we

can generate enough power to like use

directed energy lasers

um microwave

stuff and you know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AafRWY7M3PQ

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– SkiSkiUSMC 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

If they did that then the wall would be worthless kek

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– GodBlessAmerica58 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

"Phone Home"

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– Young_Patriot 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Seems they are implying they are demons

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– scurfie 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

I believe there are demons just as I believe there is satan.

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– Buildtheadytum 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I think the theory that UAP are spacemen who travel billions of miles to zoom around our skies and cut up livestock is rather dumb and mundane, and is actually the psyop stand-in explanation created by TPTB - propagated by sci-fi narratives.

I think the truth is something far more frightening and fascinating - something not comprehensible to most people; that non corporeal intelligent entity/ies exist, they/it can manifest at will under certain conditions in a variety of forms, they/it has an interest in our human experience, and will manipulate us to their ends.

Some go on to further theorize that these entities are not even external, or alien, to us, but actually an aspect of nature, of human perception, a collective consciousness that intermittently achieves awareness and agency in the physical world.

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Our own secret program is what is responsible for animal mutilation. I saw one report of a cow found deceased that when autopsied had a foreign embroyo in her uterus. The are being used to grow grotesque hybrid creations. No wonder some people can't take all this evil shit and just check the fuck out. I'm sick to death of all the exploitation and abuse of those who can't defend themselves.

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– Buildtheadytum 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Why would they need to go to random farms though? The government could easily buy land and raise farm animals to experiment on.

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– AZTrumpette1776 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

they are.

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– makemyday007 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

This movie can’t get any crazier.

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– HelloDolly 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

And yet it most surely will.

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– WeAreThePlan 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

2024 is going to be wild! Stock up on the usual and hold onto your seats.

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– Uncle_Fester 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

The Zetas are real! Time to start re-writing the history books.

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– JackieDaytona74 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Interesting that someone downvoted your comment. I suspect the disclosure process is going to be very, very difficult for some people. In my experience, for every person that just wants to know the truth, there's a person that fits into one of these two categories:

  1. All aliens are demons
  2. They've bought into the 7 decades-long CIA psyop of mocking the subject + they're scared of what these beings might be and consequently, they are completely incredulous in response to any data under the guise of "healthy skepticism".

I wonder which category the downvoter resides in.

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– GodBlessAmerica58 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I'm open minded, but a skeptic... Ever notice how Skeptic is a word used heavily in Infomercials? Kek

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– JackieDaytona74 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

That's a good balance. Some skepticism is warranted as there are a lot of very poor researchers in the field. The worst ones are those that claim to have definitive answers.

It's an area of research that demands one be comfortable with ambiguity. I have been researching this subject for 30 years now, and researching it quite seriously for the last 20.

There's literally nothing that I'm 100% certain of beyond that a non-human intelligence is interacting with us. There are things that "I think I think", but anyone who does serious research in this field knows that very little can be confirmed for certain.

We need people like you with open minds. It's the only way we'll get the truth.

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– GodBlessAmerica58 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah, Doubtful that any beings from other solar systems or dimensions are wanting to be friends. I didn't believe in demons until I saw 2, there's were people who were quite insane. Seemed to me they were possessed by something.

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– JackieDaytona74 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I think some do actually have benevolent intentions for us. But I also think that there's a large section that's ambivalent towards us. And I'm increasingly convinced that there's at least one or two groups that are outright hostile, which is indeed scary and I suspect is at least one reason as to why such a tight lid has been kept on this subject.

Again, all of the above is under the "I think I think" umbrella based on thousands of hours of research and interviews, but I cannot be 100% sure of.

As to demons, I fully agree with you that they are indeed real. I am seeing a slow but steady realization among the research community that demons are a piece of this inter-dimensional puzzle and that evil is a very real thing in our universe.

Would be curious to hear more about your demon encounter if you're up for sharing it, GBA.

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– Excelsior 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

As difficult as disclosure may be, it's not going to be anywhere as hard as finding out about Big Mike

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– JackieDaytona74 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

lol indeed.

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– HelloDolly 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

A lot to chew on for sure. But why would Q tell us to Put on the Amour of God etc?

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– JackieDaytona74 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Not sure if I see any conflict there, HD.

I think most of the long-time UFO/ET researchers will tell you that demons (and the broader concept of "evil") are very real things in this inter-dimensional universe we live in.

I see no conflict in the idea that there are non-human intelligences that are similar to us along with negative, inter-dimensional beings we call demons; But also balanced out by a divinely good Creator that is there to assist us in battle with those negative entities.

Demons are a very real thing. What's frustrating is that there's a very, very religious subset of people whose reaction to all things ET is "all aliens are demons" and quite frankly, there's zero evidence to support that claim. We're likely on the precipice of disclosure over the next five years. We can't properly navigate those complex waters if we're not willing to look at this situation in the eye and try to understand the contours of the phenomenon.

Blindly labeling all non-human intelligences as "demons" only hurts us in the long run.

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– aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The 'Sunday Funnies'

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– aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Are they setting us up for the big 'reveal' lie.

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– gobby 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

A face in the sky? I don't remember seeing that here.

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– worseThanHitler 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Dammnit, got me, I was like, NOT ANOTHER MOD NOTE

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– catsfive [M] [S] 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

User has been banned

Haha, kidding, I made u a mod for 2 hours

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– pearlrevolver 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Catsfive, your alignment is definitely chaotic good lol.

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– propertyofUniverse 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Kek!

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– catsfive [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

hahah, yes, definitely! But it takes a special skill to pull the rug out from somebody and then immediately somehow put it right back.

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– BigMikesDingALing 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I think the big reveal lie of aliens that so many people here are waiting for and referring to is itself the lie. Meaning, we really do live in an inter dimensional and inter planetary world. They big UFO hoax is aimed at the awake, not the asleep. They will do a fake alien contact so all the awake people will go, "See, all fake'" They want us to think it is fake precisely because it is real.

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– FractalizingIron 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Updoogle, purely for the Post Title.

noice

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– BasedWatcherWatching 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Yep, if I don't believe it then it's fringe and shouldn't be discussed. The government lies but only if I don't believe what they are saying. The mindset here isn't any different than the looney leftist, only the beliefs are different. This has nothing to do with the subject of UFOs, just the way topics are limited and anyone espousing unacceptable viewpoints are silenced and ridiculed.

About the UFOs IMHO the populace is being set up for a fake invasion that will be used to unite the world under one government. I don't care what you believe as long as you are for MAGA and can hear different views without breaking out in a reeeee and name calling.

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– CasuallyObservant 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I agree. I have been banned for periods of time for espousing an open mind about certain things. It's really a shame that this kind of heavy handed response is still happening on a board which prides itself on truth-telling and education. Maybe greater flexibility and open-mindedness will be used to address specific topics in the future.

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– boataholic 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'm sticking to the most likely answer: UFOs are secret military technology. Exposing that technology will lead to exposure of all the life saving, life enhancing technology they have been hiding from us.

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– catsfive [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I don't mean this to sound flippant, but whatever the tech is, it doesn't care about what the most obvious answer is.

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– TaQo 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

"Yes, gentlemen... One question before I play the tape, What's up with anal probing? "

😂😂😂😂😂

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– catsfive [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Right? Like, guys? Anything we need to know about your planet, here??

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– CasuallyObservant 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That whole scene is gold.

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– Witsend 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

When he inserted the part about how religion has room for UFOs, and it may, I really don't know, it gave me the feeling that the both of them are shilling for an unseen entity.

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– Hortance 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

THIS.

We are talking about demons.

If demons, then that's an admission about Satan.

If Satan, then that's an admission of GOD. If government is IN CONTACT, but not allowing knowledge of this to the public, it's because they don't want us to get that confirmation of GOD.


So why all the secrecy? Its NOT "we'd be too scared".
It's that they are in contact and know it's Satanic and are COOPERATING with SATAN.

Hello breakdown of society, hello policies that allow and assist the Baal cabal. Hello purposeful culling of humanity with death-vaXXX, etc Satan is shown throughout the Bible to offer knowledge in exchange for worship/departure from God. Starting with EVE.

Revelation says Satan was "given the keys" to hell at some point at the end, followed by a massive increase in demonic activity.

Satan didn't have the keys. Didn't say God GAVE him the keys...Maybe MAN, assisted by knowledge given from Satan gave Satan the keys.

Hello CERN. I'm sure they're working on a way to introduce these terrible powerful beings...but it WON'T be in a way that confirms God.

Satan, for wealth, knowledge, Earthly pleasure, has enlisted Mankind, through it's leaders, to assist him in his war on God Almighty. And Satan's war includes the destruction of God's creation, including Man. THIS is the big secret that government and global elites are terrified we'll find out.

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– SuckaFree 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The thing about fringe conspiracies is that they may be fringe level now, but we're finding out more and more each day that what may have once been fringe are now becoming mainstream and, for the most part, have been proven correct tima and time again.

So while we may want to ban certain conspiracies now, we still need to keep an open mind and understand that they may be proven truthful in the future. Especially the ancient alien conspiracies.

After all, how many ancient civilizations have stories containing gods and goddesses, sky battles, alien contact events, or even "abductions?"

I'm a Christian and have to admit that by the very definition of the word "alien," that the story of Enoch is an alien abduction event. The story of Moses at Mt Sinai is one of alien contact, the story if Job is anothet alien abduction event, and the Vedic stories of ancient India are stories of witnessed sky battles between various alien races battling for control over the human population.

Occam's Razor applies here, probably more than any other subject known to man.

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– catsfive [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Occam's Razor applies here

Occam's razor isn't "the simplest explanation," it's that "the explanation with the fewest leaps is usually the right one." That's why chemtrails is banned here. People go from "lines in the sky" and suddenly we have a huge CIA operation operating 500 flights PER DAY spraying over YOUR house

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– 15th_dimension 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

fav documentary https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e-CoNQm5hjc

fav book http://www.vielewelten.at/pdf_en/prism%20of%20lyra.pdf

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– solarsavior 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I watched the whole thing, but found it to be pretty painful.

I guess we shall see.

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– 15th_dimension 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

often painful before you can wrap your mind around a subject. but if you dive into the content, you'll see that it works, and reconciles with everything else we know to be true.

listening to the sessions is the best way to sense where he's coming from. he has given a LOT of info over the years, and i can pass on a bit of it.

I am a big fan of channelers, partially because i worked as an electroencephalography technician and saw the proof in action.

Barry and Connie Strohm have an awesome podcast where they pray and deliver messages from Jesus, and various historical figures, and yes also aliens.

the info is all there, people just aren't ready to accept it.

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– AGoatWithNoHome 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Seen a UFO myself. Back in the 80's. With a friend who witnessed it as well. It was at night and the object was glowing and in the sky. It hovered for a couple minutes the zipped away with incredible speed.

UFO as it was flying, some kind of object, and sure as hell unidentified. I still talk with my friend about it on occasion. That is something you don't forget.

I don't have enough info to state that it was alien or man-made. I can state that I have never seen any tech to this day that can do that. If a being was inside it when it sped away, he would have been insta killed by the G's. Either it was a type of unmanned craft with insane tech, or it had physics bending abilities. Either way I have questions.

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– gobby 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Question physics, as well.

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– Taran77 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Everytime i see talk of aliens i think of the guy with crazy hair and the "im not saying it's aliens buuuut it's aliens" meme

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– CrowRezNeck 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

KJV1611..... If you know....you know.

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– NeverStopBelieving 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

King James Version 1611 ? What do u mean

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– GrannyPaine 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

For me, it's funny that this has come up now. I've been reading Alan Butler's "Intervention" and he's suggesting that what we are seeing isn't "aliens from another planet" at all. He thinks it's us from the future - that at some point in the future, we develop/discover time travel and all these UFOs etc are just the vessels that are used to come back, to allow Future Humans to move around.

From the book:

One might get the sense that we are being deliberately "brought up to speed", whilst at the same time being prepared for what is surely still going to be the biggest shock humanity has ever faced.

Sound familiar? “The truth would put 99% of people in the hospital.”

Does it sound far-fetched? As compared to what? That very high-tech alien beings from light years away took some sort of special interest in us? If we are just like "cattle" to them (i.e. a food source), why are there stories throughout history of these beings aiding mankind? Wouldn't an alien race prefer to keep us slow and stupid (unless the changes made us tastier somehow. LOL).

The book was published in 2012, by the way. I'm only a third of the way through it but it's been fascinating. Read it or not. Take it in or not. Makes no difference to me, ultimately.

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– catsfive [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

we develop/discover time travel

OR - we develop tech that allows us to live at all points of time simultaneously. We're not coming back... we're omnipresent

Know what's hilarious? Watching Reddit's r/Conspiracy go full-on libtarded. The gymnastics are nuts off the charts

"UFO's aren't actually time travelling, they're using multi-dimensional tech that makes them omnipresent in all dimensions. We'd know this if Trump and his criminal lackeys weren't giving the technology to Russia!"

Wat

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– lostmyeffingpassword 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The Black Knight has entered the room, along with some Lockheed Astras.

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– R3tro 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

If you want to deep dive into this: Law of One: Ra Material Goes into both benevolent and malevolent beings: Its actually quite fascinating because these channelings , which happened jn the early 80’s are playing out now in the 2020’s

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– GodBlessAmerica58 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I'm an alien skeptic, when I see a real one I'll believe them, but I really don't want to see one. I'm sure we aren't alone in the Universe, but doubt we are interesting enough to visit, nor nutritional enough to come light years to eat.

So far we have supposedly went to the Moon about 1.5 light seconds away, and the nearest stars are what? 4 light years away.

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– DominionVoteMachine 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I have a cousin who has lived on the same farm her whole life. When she was in her 20's, a ufo landed in their field, and she walked toward it, and before she could get too close, it flew off. Ever since then, for the past 40 years, she can't be alone. She's terrified of being alone, and relatives will drive cross state to be with her when her husband travels. She's afraid to be alone because the thing that scared her the most about her encounter, was that she wasn't afraid. As soon as the ufo left and flew off, she couldn't believe she had walked toward it, and wondered what the hell had come over her to make her compelled to get closer to it.

I knew a kid in 5th grade who used to hang out on his roof all the time. One night he saw a UFO and he was never the same after that. He became quiet and started obsessively drawing aliens and ufo's all the time.

They're real, I just don't know what they are.

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– NeverStopBelieving 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Wow : the reason for her fright is profound ! Sounds like she saw something, there’s no telling her she didn’t , that’s for sure . Sad about the kid on roof . I saw something as a kid while in a above ground pool in a farm area in New Jersey . It was just there all of a sudden and flew up and disappeared, not away , up , just as fast as it got there . I don’t have either reaction though , mine is more of a “ oh yeah that time in the pool “ whenever I hear or read about the subject .

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– DominionVoteMachine 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

My cousin is a completely normal, rational, honest down-to-earth practical person in every way conceivable. Unless she has to be alone for more than a day or two. When she has people over to stay with her, she never mentions the ufo, not ever. Even though it's the whole reason she can't stay by herself.

That cousin's mother was probably born around 1920, and when she was a little girl, she almost climbed out her bedroom window in the middle of the night to go run away with the gypsies. Her father literally caught her by the ankle as she was climbing out the window. If he hadnt've caught her in time, they never would have seen her again.

And lately on the farm: GIANT WOLVES. Apparently according to my cousin's husband, they are definitely wolves, but just a lot bigger than they should be. Farmers have been talking amongst themselves about it, because no one believes them except other farmers that have seen them too.

Not much exciting happens on the farm, but when it does, whoa nelly.

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– Honor+Duty 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

There were giant wolves mentioned in the book about skinwalker ranch. Are giant wolves gonna be a thing now?

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– TheSkipperTwo 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Adding them to the menu along with Murder Hornets!

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Killer Bees,

Murder Hornets

Giant Wolves

Rabid Squirrels

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The giant wolf stories are about Dogman. They are not just wolves, but no they are not werewolves. They remain Dogman, they can walk on their hind legs when they want to do so.

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– GeorgeMcPottyMouth 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

what area are we talking here dominion for the wolf sightings ?

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– GeorgeMcPottyMouth 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I remember back when i was around 9 or so ,my family went to the smithsonian and the first thing we saw walking in was this massive wolf ,it was unbelievable the size of this thing ,it was a timberwolf.there are videos on youtube of people that have raised timberwolves .check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRGJdw6InoY

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– DominionVoteMachine 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

west of the rockies

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– 15th_dimension 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

oh you are here, sup. 🥺 resident alien expert here. lemme talk some sense into your cousin.

unless you blacklisted me for being an asshat. fair. 🥺 but plz no also lol did you see my post

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– Lightworker15 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Wow. What an interesting response your cousin had. To be unafraid and welcoming, then do all she can to fight that urge.

To ET's, WE are the aliens. They are beings that live on different planets. That's all.

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– GodBlessAmerica58 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, lets hope we find out. Your second example reminded me of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, the star was obsessed with the mountain piling up his taters in an effigy.

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– Greekish 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

So far we have supposedly went to the Moon..

Gone. It's "gone". We have supposedly gone to the moon.

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– GodBlessAmerica58 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Ok English teacher, kek. What's funny is I know that and still mess up. My sister is a retired libtard teacher. She taught Drama until 5-06 years before retirement, then stepped down for health reasons. She taught IB English and Film and some other IB class for those last years.

I hated English because I have vision problems and they had me write on extra large paper for the first few years. I do ok considering I dropped out of school at 14...

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– TheVerboten1 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

or 'we supposedly went to the moon'

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– Greekish 1 point 268 days ago +1 / -0

u/#q2225

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– slokill 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

April 2023 AOM: Gods of the Bible: A new interpretation of the Bible reveals the oldest secret in history

by Mauro Biglino Author links: maurobiglino.com/en YouTube Published 5th April 2023 | 58 Comments | Articles, Author of the Month

Direct translation from the Hebrew to English without the power structure corruption and lies designed to keep the truth hidden.

Humans were conquered by the El. YHWH was an intermediate kinda Colonel assigned control of a specific group of people, much as Baal, Moloch, etc. were also assigned tribes to control. They treated us as cattle - literally. They are not God, but one of God's creations.

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– Silentchainz 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Please, conservatives, act strategically in being able to convince normies of political corruption…

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– Bibloop 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

well I mean demons are lies and deception and they can create all these illusions such as monsters/UFOs to steer people to the realm of "science" instead of spirituality and connecting w/ God. Believing in the physical instead of your soul/spirit. There's nothing new under the sun.

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– CasuallyObservant 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Tell more about when you saw Jesus and also the UFO. Details are welcome.

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– HelloDolly 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Why does Q quote the Bible so much then?

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– CQVFEFE 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I rarely read walls of text. This I consumed transfixed, unaware of time.

The Majestic Truth is all humans are a product of multiple alien species interbreeding and experimenting on reality.

I don't know what to believe any more. Maybe this is what Q meant by "The truth would put 99% of people in the hospital."

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– TheSkipperTwo 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Don't know how much truth is mixed with fiction there, or if there is ANY truth and it's all fiction. But to take it at face value then I guess the aliens "created themselves?"

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– aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This ET lie just pushes the 1st cause to infinity which is impossible ( An actual infinite is impossible) Only God is infinite, which is the 1st cause of all creation.

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– LateToTheShow 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

And before someone tries to jump on you for saying “an actual infinite is impossible” yet “God is infinite,” God is a qualitative infinite, not a quantitative infinite. He is an actual being with infinite qualities: infinite power, infinite knowledge, etc…

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– BalsacEyes 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

To me this explanation is not mutually exclusive from God. Both can be true, with us caught up in a good/evil battle here on Earth, which is what the Bible explains through metaphor and allegory. I don’t know why people have such an adverse reaction to thoughts like these. I sense that, while many in this forum believe they wouldn’t be severely impacted by the truth, genuine truths would put even many “in the know” in the hospital.

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– aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

2Thess.2: 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

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– catsfive [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

OK

But discuss that on Conspiracies.WIN

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– Kayleighsbikeseat 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

And when the door opens, it becomes an O shit!

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